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Spurs with great chance to win Carling Cup runners-up medals, after demolishing Arsenal's reserve side

Thursday, 24 January 08, 11:55 PM · Comments(43)

Well, the title is oversimplifying it a little bit, but let's not lose sight of everything in the midst of all the fallout from the Adebayor-Bendtner incident, and Spurs' champagne-spraying celebrations (as if they'd won the Champions' League or something).

The Carling Cup is, and always has been Arsenal's 4th priority. The Carling Cup, as Juande Ramos told us recently, was Tottenham's No. 1 target, and Dimitar Berbatov even said this was their "match of the year".

Hence we saw an extremely pumped Spurs team, at home, on the cusp of a Wembley final, playing a disjointed Arsenal side that have the slight distractions of competing for the league, and being in the Champions League AND the FA Cup.

The Spuds haven't won in this fixture since 1999, and that pathetic record of theirs was bound to end sometime. This was the perfect opportunity for it - at home, Carling Cup semi-final (which they messed up last year), and against their local rivals' second/youth side. They played like it was their "Match of the Year", and sadly we played like it was our lowest priority competition. However, while defeat is somewhat (only slightly) palpable, the scoreline was the shocking bit.

And on that, I have nothing to say other than "WHAT THE FUCK?". At 2-0 I shook my head, but though OK there's a chance. At 3-0 I grimaced, and at 4-0 I burst out laughing from the sheer absurdity of it all - who would have thought? Spurs up 4-0 against the Arsenal in a cup semi-final. Happily for them the record books will not tell us that the Carling Cup is a mickey mouse tournament, nor that Arsenal played a secondary side, but that's the price of losing.

Credit to them, they were excellent on the day, and quite clinical, but some of the Arsenal players were god awful. It wasn't even that weak of an Arsenal side, with Gallas and Sagna drafted in because of injury, and Hleb playing on the right to add some creativity. Fabregas even played most of the game after Denilson had come off injured after 20 minutes. Some of the players just did not seem up for it, and captain William Gallas particularly was awful.

Arsene Wenger gave in to the temptation of including some senior players, understandable given the size and nature of the fixture, but I understand completely his regrets in not letting some of the youngsters have a go and playing the players that he did, because some of them were just not in the game. 

The players will have to respond at the weekend against Newcastle, and it will be difficult with the cloud of the whole Bendtner-Adebayor clash hanging over them. Adebayor's behaviour was seriously, seriously out of order, and no matter how much he's done for the club, striking a junior teammate in public, in a game such as that, is completely unacceptable. While Bendtner is a cocky, mouthy lad, he is one of the family, and i'm sure the players and other people within the club are just shocked by what Ade has done.

There is some serious patching up to do.

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Steeley
Steeley Wrote: | 09.27UTC | Feb 11, 2008

I think in most a pretty fair summary of the game but as per usual Arsenal fans look for excuses for any defeat rather than they're own shortcomings obviosly the Wenger trait is rubbing off passed the players and through to the fans.Most of the players on show in the semi have featured in the league this year, Arsenal were pretty lucky to gain the win in the league recently it is Wengers arrogance that amazes most footie fans he plays his 3rd choice keeper etc .As the former Gunner Paul Merson said on the night having potential is one thing if you win nothing it means nothing ! Being the best side in the country to watch doesnt mean you are the best side in the country ! In May is when it matters and if Arsenal regain the Title well i will be the first to say they have earned it.

SM
SM Wrote: | 22.55UTC | Feb 11, 2008

Hi Steeley, thanks for your comment. No one is hiding the shortcomings of the team, but ultimately it was in defence where the Arsenal where worst, and it was there that Hoyte, Traore, and Fabianski mattered. They are a long way away from first team level yet, and sadly Gallas had an awful game, so gave no guidance.

As for luck winning in the league, well you might also point to the jammy, late equalisers that Spurs have scored at WHL... had they not then their home record against Arsenal would be quite poor.

matt
matt Wrote: | 17.16UTC | Feb 19, 2008

Fuck off Gooner! Considering the fact that the Woolwhich Wanderers had about 33 more million dollars on the pitch than Spurs I hardly think it was your reserves. And thats really the point isn't it? Corporate football blows just as hard as your reptilian coach.The way Spurs played they could have taken anyone in the prem. By the way, after that match we faired a hell of a lot better with Man U than you borish plastic fucks did losing by one own goal in Old trafford and holding a 1-0 lead to the last 10 seconds (with more than 4 min of injury time) to draw). Now let me see here-Nope that wasn't their reserves now was it. In fact it was the same side that thrashed you 4-0 on saturday now wasn't it. What priority is the FA Cup? Here is a comprehensive list of why real football fans and I believe God Himself hate Gooners:
1) Arsene Wenger
2) Tony "Donkey" Adams
3) The Offside Trap
4) The Clockend
5) Geroge Grahams Bungs
6) Robert "F'kin" Pires
7) Thierry Henrys goal celebrations
8) The Library
9) Making an art of winning boring matches 1-0
10) Then inventing a chant about it
11) Dixon, Adams, Keown, Winterburn (for about 10 consecutive seasons)
12) Buying a place in the old 1st Division at a more honourable London clubs expense
13) Playing in North London when they originate from South of the river
14) The fabled Marble Halls. Who gives a stuff ?
15) Ian Wrights television career
16) Never produced a decent post war striker for England
17) Thinking they are bigger than Man Utd
18) Winning the double with boring, uninspired football (70/71)
19) Arsene Wenger
20) Introducing Anelka to this country
21) Nick friggin Hornby
22) Having to explain to their fans that big clubs are able to defend their status as champions
23) David Seaman
24) Perry Groves
25) Paul Davis breaking Glenn Cockrills jaw with a right hook
26) Arsene Wenger
27) Don Howes "attacking" brand of football
28) Sacking Bruce Rioch (if ony they had kept faith)
29) Micheal Thomas lucky lucky last minute goal in '89. How do you say "rub of the green".
30) Ditto Alan Sunderland in the '79 cup final
31) Nayim from the half way line
32) Thats not a reason for hating Arsenal
33) But I thought I'd slip in in there
34) Arsene Wenger
35) The **********ist pitch in the prem. I've screwed women with wider snatches than Highbury
36) Ruining Charlie Nicholas career
37) The Wright Stuff. ***gag***
38) Bob Wilson. Has there ever been a more boring football prersenter
39) Martin Keowns disgraceful scenes at Old Trafford
40) Arsene Wengers opticians

SM
SM Wrote: | 18.11UTC | Feb 19, 2008

Hehe, I love Spurs fans... neverending ability to work themselves up into superhuman levels of stupidity, providing endless entertainment.

You're in a CARLING CUP final! WOW! And you've beaten us... what two or three times in the last decade?

Not hard to see why you hate the Arsenal so much, you're just one of those people who can't accept that you're inferior.

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 03.58UTC | Feb 25, 2008

Well, well, well... SM, don't you look like a big fool. Boring, boring Chelsea didn't do the job. It took the 3Ds for Chelsea to score a goal: Diving Didier Drogba. Spurs got the job done in a competition that isn't too respected around England and I don't understand why... silverware is silverware, it doesn't matter what kind of competition it is. But, it's ok for you to be jealous, kid... We all know that Tottenham HotSpur is the only team in North London who will actually WIN a trophy this season. And might I add... jealousy is starting to become a real big emotion around the Emirates these days. Dirtbag, just telling 'em like it is

SM
SM Wrote: | 04.36UTC | Feb 25, 2008

Dirtbag's geography has improved, unfortunately he's still a moron!

Well done Spurs, at least the North London rivalry will come back to life now, after being dead for a decade or so.

Might I add Dirtbag, how exactly do you know what the emotions are around the Emirates these days?

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 04.19UTC | Feb 26, 2008

Hehe, I love Gunners fans (note, using your own words)...I'm a moron, but saying that doesn't bring you any closer to a trophy, now does it, you Internet hitman you. Spurs have already won a cup.... they're not talking about winning one. I guess you Gunners are all talk & no action, nowadays, eh? To answer your question: Well... I have inside information about how many Gooners (or "Gommers" as my informer called 'em) were continously making excuses for losing to Spurs, 5-1. Hey, lad.... I'm pretty sure Cesc Fabregas (among others) are all part of your reserve side, right? Tsk, tsk, tsk... that excuse is getting old. Next, I suppose you'll be saying that Milan beat your "reserve" squad in the San Siro, right? HA! You lost because you f'ed up and you didn't deserve to win, reserves or not. Stop with that old excuse.

Dirtbag, those who make excuses are usually the ones who are in denial

SM
SM Wrote: | 04.48UTC | Feb 26, 2008

Heh. The Carling Cup, i've never heard anyone make as big of a noise about it as Spurs fans (and you of course).

Write me back when they've won something real.

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 05.01UTC | Feb 26, 2008

Ouch.... you sure hit me with a blaster, SM! Well, as I said before, silverware is silverware.... the Carling Cup is no different. I know if I were a Spurs fan, then I'd definitely rather win a "fake cup" (according to you) then NO cup at all, like your team. I mean, come on, guy... it's common sense... I'd take Spurs "fake cup" win over your team's trophy-less season, anyday.

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 05.04UTC | Feb 26, 2008

Might I add... Dirtbag, one is better than none

SM
SM Wrote: | 06.08UTC | Feb 26, 2008

In that case, I think whoever wins the Community Shield should definitely do an open top bus parade.

And Dirtbag, I completely agree. One is better than none, ergo 3 premiership titles are better than none, 4 FA Cups are better than none, and so on.

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 18.52UTC | Feb 26, 2008

Of course, the Community Shield is silverware is it not? If West Ham were to win it (hypothecially of course), are they not allowed to go crazy & party over their accomplishment? And I think the need for pulling out that typical English fan's excuse is not needed. Yep... Arsenal's cabinet is MUCH more impressive than Spurs'. Unfortunately, your PAST wins have nothing to do with the fact that Spurs have a cup RIGHT NOW and you do not. I call that a "typical English fan's excuse": bringing up past performances and past victories to overcome a debate between themselves and another footy fan. I'd never discredit your team's past cup wins, but exactly what does the past have to do with the present? Spurs have already won a cup NOW, but you have not and trust me, buddy... you will not. (Using your own words) Write back to me when you're done making excuses and bringing up past victories :P

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 18.54UTC | Feb 26, 2008

Dirtbag, thinks you'll never learn

SM
SM Wrote: | 19.03UTC | Feb 26, 2008

I think DK, we are not going to agree with anything ever if you've just honestly said to me that West Ham should go crazy and party over their accomplishment. Tsk ;)

And speaking of going crazy and partying:
LINK

Fact of the matter is this, you can't expect me to bat an eyelid at something my club treats as a reserve team competition (3 semis, and 1 final in 4 years at that). Yes, Cesc, Hleb and so on did play, but that was only because of injuries.

Spurs can go as crazy as they want to, they have every right. But the point is still that the highlight of their season is a competition that doesn't matter much to the serious teams.

It's about the war, not the battle!

SM
SM Wrote: | 21.39UTC | Feb 26, 2008

Why is there no line spacing?

5-1
5-1 Wrote: | 01.57UTC | Feb 27, 2008

SM cna i ask you 2 things if your club does not take the carling cup seriuosly, 1.why did all your players start a fight in the final last year when you were losing, and 2. why did your players start fighting each other at white hart lane this year in the carling cup you moron

SM
SM Wrote: | 02.01UTC | Feb 27, 2008

Show me where I have said they don't take it seriously?

I have said "lower down in the priority list", but I can't expect Spurs fans to understand this, because they haven't challenged for the League, FA Cup or Europe in a long time.

As for 1 & 2. 1 - Because Frank Lampard came in and shoved somebody to aggravate the argument, and 2 - Because they were unhappy with each other at losing so badly to Spurs? Satisfactory answers?

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 04.12UTC | Feb 27, 2008

I never "said" to you that West Ham should go crazy, I asked you: should they or shouldn't they go crazy? Besides, I was speaking HYPOTHETICALLY... it means "just for pretend". Lovely article you got there. I've always known you English knew how to get drunk and fight like no one else! It showed when a bunch of English guys got drunk at the MGM Grand in Vegas and started booing the US national anthem at the Mayweather-Hatton fight. Indeed, the English culture of drinking and fighting really does ruin everything. We all remember that Man Utd-Roma incident last season, where your lot got drunk and picked a fight with the Italians, in which you lost (it's quite pathetic to start a fight and then lose it). Another excuse, eh? Injuries are a part and always will be a part of the game, therefore it's abolished from the excuse-factor that you English fans are so well known for using.

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 04.20UTC | Feb 27, 2008

Dirtbag, knows that real men don't use excuses

SM
SM Wrote: | 04.42UTC | Feb 27, 2008

Haha, I don't think Dirtbag knows what a real man is.

You are a silly man, because you're making zero sense now. What do I have to do with the crappy US anthem, or Man Utd or Roma? Absolutely nothing.

Go to sleep already.

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 04.24UTC | Mar 1, 2008

You SERIOUSLY need me to explain why I talked about the "crappy" US anthem and Man Utd/Roma? Goddamn, you're dumber than I thought. Listen up... You put up an article that said Ledley King got into a brawl, right? Ledley King is ENGLISH, right? You do know that there's no one in the world who knows how to get drunk and start fights better than ENGLISH people, right? My proof of that is when you booed the "crappy" US anthem and the other proof is when ENGLISH Man Utd fans got drunk and picked a fight with the Italians. That has nothing to do with you, but I have to prove my point somehow. Here's a new word for you: COM-PRE-HEN-SION. Do you have any COM-PRE-HEN-SION skills? Can you COM-PRE-HEND my words or do you need further explanation (my guess is the latter)? Geez, SM... how did you become THIS stupid?Dirtbag, shocked that you have no common sense in your brain what-so-ever

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 04.28UTC | Mar 1, 2008

Oh, and when you learn to COM-PRE-HEND words using common sense... THEN I will go to sleep, but for now... I'll stay awake. Dirtbag, looks like I'll be awake forever

SM
SM Wrote: | 04.30UTC | Mar 1, 2008

Heh, I don't really care about the English or Americans or anyone.

And it took you like 3 days to write a response, and you came up with that lame shit?

Damn man, if it wasn't bad enough that you started spouting irrelevant bullshit (Man Utd fans and the Poo-S National anthem on an Arsenal blog... like anyone cares!), it then takes you 3 days to try and recover from a put-down and you can't even do that right.

Don't ever get into debating, you're quite poor at it.

SM
SM Wrote: | 04.31UTC | Mar 1, 2008

Yes, yes.. COM-PRE-HEND... Dirtbag found a dictionary and has a shiny new word to throw around! Oooooooooooh!

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 16.27UTC | Mar 1, 2008

Yep, it took me 3 days to respond. Unlike you... I actually have a life! Plus, I'm usually on FoxSoccer.com, chatting it up with REAL football fans. I come here to see the hilarious stupidity that you all possess and it looks like I've come to the right place for that. Gee, SM... I didn't know you didn't have a life outside of the Internet. Now I'm starting to feel sorry for getting into a spat with a no-life, cry-baby. And then you have to throw in an insult: "Don't ever get into debating, you're quite poor at it." Is that the best you can bring, princess? Geez... I thought I was talking to an ADULT MAN, not a little princess. I have found a dictionary and I might as well show you one of my new words: COME-BACK. Can yoi bring a better COME-BACK than that? Do you even know how to make a decent COME-BACK? Write back to me when you're done being a no-life, princess. Man up already!

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 16.29UTC | Mar 1, 2008

Dirtbag, doesn't have an Internet life - does have a REAL life

SM
SM Wrote: | 11.41UTC | Mar 5, 2008

HAHAHAHHAHAA - FoxSoccer.com!

FoxSoccer and "REAL" football fans. Heh.

You've just lost all your credibility. Good riddance and good luck.

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 19.11UTC | Mar 6, 2008

It's a FOOTBALL website, you genius. I don't care if it's for losers or if it's for morons: it's a place for FOOTBALL. It sure beats coming here. I mean, why would I want to come here everyday when there are assholes like you that don't know shit about football? All you do is give opinion after opinion. Over there, it's all facts and good fun, buddy. Lets see: come here, where there is hardly ever a decent conversation between 2 human beings or go to the other website, where I can joke around and discuss football. Come here, where there are assholes like you or go there, where there are greatly passionate fans. The fact that you even MADE a profile here and have 10 friends, tells me that you have no life. On FSC, you talk, then you leave to go do what you have to do. It's so dull and boring over here and you people have no lives. You're trying to make yourself look good, but you FAILED.

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 19.15UTC | Mar 6, 2008

Dirtbag, would rather be a big loser on FoxSoccer, than a little PUSSY on OleOle (that's why I don't have a profile here)

SM
SM Wrote: | 10.59UTC | Mar 7, 2008

Heh. You're funny when you're angry, and not very observant.

Go away and play with "sawker" kids now.

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 20.49UTC | Mar 7, 2008

How do I sound "angry" over the Internet, pray tell? Is it because I used CAPITAL letters? Is it because you're an Internet geek and you found out how you can be "angry" over the Internet? No, I don't really think you can sound "angry" over the computer, unless you're using CallWave, which kids like yourself probably don't even know about. And when did I EVER say the word "soccer" or "sawker"? NEVER. I'm from Europe, so I know all about the terminology. The only thing we can really agree on is that FOOTBALL is the game and "soccer" is for those Americans. C'mon.... I know people like you. You get into a "cyber-fight" with someone over the Internet and then you post a 10-word comeback sentence that gives you a good feeling, like you say to yourself: "Man, I really let that guy really have it!". NO, YOU DID NOT, YOU FAILED MISERABLY. Dirtbag, won't leave 'til you mount a decent comeback

SM
SM Wrote: | 22.33UTC | Mar 10, 2008

You're not from Europe, and you're a massive loser for pretending like you are. And why have you drifted off into more irrelevant shit that has nothing to do with me or football?

I really don't indulge in "cyber-fights", but clearly if you "know people like me", you must spend a lot of squabbling with people on the internet and making yourself look like an idiot, because that's all you've managed.

Now please go away and stop disgracing yourself... you've really sunk to a new low with all this "I'm from Europe" stuff.

Go back to your FoxSoccer or whatever. OleOle might not be the world's biggest or best football site, but at least it isn't full of posers you.

Seriously, exactly how big of an idiot are you?

Nevermind, don't want you to kill yourself trying to answer that.

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 05.45UTC | Mar 11, 2008

Tsk, tsk, tsk.... I gave you 4 days and that pathetic excuse for a comeback is all you can come up with? Hey... If I'm an "idiot" and I "disgrace" myself, then please do tell me why you constantly respond to me?????? If you don't like me, then just say so... it's the flipping INTERNET, like I care what some gay Gunner (YOU) thinks of me. With that said, it doesn't look like you're any smarter than me, kiddo. Seriously, do you have ANY common sense at all? If you don't want to argue with an "idiot" who "disgraced" himself, then why you responding? Haha, you set yourself up for that one. Dirtbag, would rather be an idiot who disgraces himself with common sense in his brain (supposedly, me) rather than someone who has no common sense and looks even more retarded by continually responding to that so-called idiot (YOU)

SM
SM Wrote: | 08.48UTC | Mar 11, 2008

Errr, because you keep coming to my blog and leaving comments loser. I get a little email telling me so-and-so has left a comment on my blog, and so I respond. Not sure why you keep coming back here, especially after you've made a fool of yourself on it, and more so because you claim not to like me or it.

And you obviously care, otherwise you wouldn't get so worked up, and keep coming back and calling me "gay", throwing hissy fits, and worst of all... pretending to be European! What a TOOL!

Like how you've once again conveniently ignored the mess you made in your previous comments and that you're just spouting childish irrelevant bullshit again.

Find someone else's blog to be pathetic on DK. It's sad to see a washed up old chap like you stooping to behaving like an imbecile.

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 19.20UTC | Mar 11, 2008

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ... Come on, SM, I know you can do better than that! I keep coming back because you obviously don't want to ignore me, so why not come back? How hard is it to ignore someone on the Internet? Besides, like you said... it's YOUR blog, so don't you have the authority to at least delete some of my comments or do you read them to yourself as a bed-time story? I keep coming back because YOU keep coming back. If you don't want me to come back, then don't comment again. Remember we were on someone else's blog and we were talking about the EPL not being as competitive as other leagues? I have yet to see another comment on that blog in over 6 months! Why? Because no one responded. Since I'm talking to Some Moron (hence the letters SM), then I guess I'll have to spell it out for you: If you don't want me to come back, then do NOT respond. Dirtbag, is this my farewell or not yet?

SM
SM Wrote: | 20.46UTC | Mar 11, 2008

You are a petty (and obviously unintentionally funny) little man.

I don't see why I should ignore you or delete your comments though? I mean, if you're desperate to be ignored, then clearly you have some disorders in place.

As for deleting your comments, I'd rather not - they provide a great record of your sad little existence.

You know what the saddest thing is? At least I get an email saying "You have a new comment", with a link to this.

You on the other hand actually have this page BOOKMARKED (or you search for it every time - I don't know which one is sadder). I think that sums it all up! You are SAD!

SM
SM Wrote: | 20.54UTC | Mar 11, 2008

To sum up, Dirtbag the huge loser: Hangs out on FoxSoccer, Pretends to be European, Doesn't know shit about football, Makes petty personal attacks when he doesn't have anything else to say, Claims to have a "real life" but actually has bookmarked this blog and keeps coming back to watch what I do and make comments, and thinks the Carling Cup is a great trophy.

I'm still trying to get over the part where he made an ass of himself and then claimed to be "European" in an attempt to gain some credibility.

What a sham.

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 22.39UTC | Mar 11, 2008

Is that all you got? I'm here.... take your best shot! Come on, bro.... I KNOW you're retarded, but you HAVE to come back with something better than that. You sound like a bitch: "WAAAAAAAAA! WAAAAAAA!! I WANT MY MOMMY! MY DADDY DOESN'T WUV ME! WAAAAAAAAAA!". I'll try asking you nicely... please, Some Moron (SM), please bring a better comeback than that. You should delete your comments because people may mistake you for being a gigantic wuss. Please man up and take a bigger swing at me than that. Dirtbag, IS from Europe but Some Moron (SM) is demais estúpido saber onde sou de.

SM
SM Wrote: | 22.45UTC | Mar 11, 2008

Heh. You're falling to pieces now with your ranting.

Dirtbag
Dirtbag Wrote: | 01.46UTC | Mar 12, 2008

What's wrong Some Moron (SM)? Triste? Você idiotas normalmente são. SOU de Europa. Você ignorante para pensar contrariamente. You've been found out. I bet my house that your jaw dropped the second you found out that I wasn't lying. I feel sad for people like you... you're going to get your ass kicked one day, if you continue to assume things without knowing the facts. You just posted an 8 word sentence, instead of one of your cute little essays because you KNEW that I had just proved you're handicap... retardedness. Since you're the student and I'm the teacher, I might as well teach you something: You really shouldn't go through life assuming things before you actually find out the truth because you might actually find yourself getting laughed at by a European on an OleOle blog. Dirtbag, that's exactly what happened to you here - Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha

SM
SM Wrote: | 22.07UTC | Mar 12, 2008

Heh. LINK
You can go there and keep pretending and making an ass of yourself - I dare you in fact! Psshh... poser.

SM
SM Wrote: | 22.16UTC | Mar 12, 2008

And you are a really lame, lame character - you used an Internet translator. Considering that you are so obsessed with me, my blog, and this post, you could have at least bothered to find someone who can speak Portuguese and gotten them to help your sorry ass.

theLegendoftheLane
theLegendoftheLane Wrote: | 03.40UTC | Jul 11, 2008

SM, you can say what you want. The Carling Cup is still a trophy. Therefore, we have a trophy and you don't! Also, the last derby played was a 5-1 victory for us. Who cares if it was against your "reserve" side? It wasn't, but that doesn't matter. We beat you. That means that you are our bitches, until the next derby is played. If you don't like that, then maybe you are not a real fan. Have fun getting relegated next season. Modric > Arsenal. BTW, here's a clip you might enjoy: LINK

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