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Birmingham Mail stirring things up ahead of Sunday

Wednesday, 07 November 07, 08:04 AM · Comments (58)

It's probably just me reading too much into it but according to the paper yesterday Charles Krulak had apologised, in writing, to David Gold. Well according to Randy Lerner anyway.

Today, the same paper have David Gold, part owner of Birmingham City, spouting off that he's going to confront Krulak and Lerner, should they visit his sty on Sunday, because he hasn't actually apologised.

Now, you've got to ask yourself, if he hasn't apologised, how could the newspaper run with the story yesterday? Was it because they knew he hadn't apologised and they were looking for a reaction?

Or, if they were 'under the impression' that Krulak had apologised, didn't they then have a responsibility to check out the claims made by Randy Lerner, rather than just run with the story, from one source?

It just looks to me that they're doing as much as possible to stir up emotions and sell a few papers ahead of the match this weekend and it's wrong.

Apologies again if I've made any spelling mistakes. Stadium is automatically getting changed to sty and I don't know how to fix that in my spell checking software.

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Dave Murf
Dave Murf Wrote: | 19.25GMT | Nov 7, 2007

Who gives two hoots if he has apologised or not.

Just looking forward to the match, and three points in the bag. :) SOTV.

Pinky
Pinky Wrote: | 19.29GMT | Nov 7, 2007

SOTC mate ... go away

Dizzy Mugs
Dizzy Mugs Wrote: | 19.30GMT | Nov 7, 2007

If the story is true, i think Gold would flap out of it.

Who would genuinely confront, agressively, a former US Commander?

I don't see why he's so bothered about it, everyone is entitled to an opinion, The General just worded his wrong. If he is so intimidated by being called a pig in mud, he shouldn't be in charge of a football club.

LeeHOltek6
LeeHOltek6 Wrote: | 19.32GMT | Nov 7, 2007

I personally hope he hasnt apologise. Why apologise to someone who's raking it in from charging footy fans £45 a ticket to watch a match?! He can forget it. I hope the general dishes out a military response!

Patricia
Patricia Wrote: | 19.36GMT | Nov 7, 2007

Dizzy.
Do you think business men are going to have a fight? Men of their age? What has being a 'former US Commander' got to do with it?
Is that how you settle stuff? Bet it is fun in your house....

JamesPiggy
JamesPiggy Wrote: | 19.40GMT | Nov 7, 2007

Well being as the Lerner quotes are from this LINK on the OS, then I don't think it is the Birmingham Mail stirring, although it does sound as though they have called Gold up and asked him to respond so maybe they are.

Damian
Damian Wrote: | 19.48GMT | Nov 7, 2007

at JamesPiggy

the official club site, more often than not, publish things later than elsewhere. i wouldn't be surprised if the club got the quotes from the article published by icbirmingham, which i believe (although could quite easily be wrong) was the first item published on this story ..

letsby avenue
letsby avenue Wrote: | 19.57GMT | Nov 7, 2007

Mr G won't need to confront your napalm expert over an apology.
If the "soory guv" ain't forthcoming....well, I hope he don't have a racehorse......

;D

blue blood liveley
blue blood liveley Wrote: | 20.10GMT | Nov 7, 2007

YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF CU**S, ONLY A VILLA FAN WOULD JUMP UP AND DEFEND A BUNCH OF SEPTIC TANKS, YOU SAD SACKS, YOU ASUME YOU ARE THE BIGGER CLUB ALL YOU EVER DO IS BANG ON ABOUT HOW YOU WON THE EUROPEAN CUP 30 ODD YEARS AGO GET A LIFE. >:(

Ben Ben
Ben Ben Wrote: | 20.20GMT | Nov 7, 2007

at blue blood liveley

have you not learnt to not leave yourself open to abuse. we don't assume we're the bigger club, we are the bigger club. this is your first season back in the top flight. that in itself says we're the bigger club - all without having to go look at the record books, turnover, fanbase (you've not even sold out sunday), size of stadium, league position ..

come on lad. stay quiet. look what happened last time you were playing football in the big park - you went back down

Dave Murf
Dave Murf Wrote: | 20.30GMT | Nov 7, 2007

Well said Blue Blood, though I think you're holding back. Tell 'em what you really think about them. :D SOTV.

Kieran
Kieran Wrote: | 20.31GMT | Nov 7, 2007

david gold is gonna confront krulak hahahaha
may god have mercy on him
and blue blood lively 30 odd years ago???? was 25 mate get your facts right, and i cant wait to read one of your comments on here come sunday night, thats if your not too ashamed by the performance mr potato head and his 11 championship players are going to put in

Chrisodon
Chrisodon Wrote: | 20.44GMT | Nov 7, 2007

LOL i love blues fans they're so stupid. I expect a tough game at the sty (poor pigs having to live in that shit hole, No wonder karen brady looks at home there) Anyway as i was saying, It'll be a ugly game (just look at all the blues crowd urgh!) But i think Villa will just edge it with the odd goal or maybe more. Come on Villa!!!

blue blood liveley
blue blood liveley Wrote: | 20.44GMT | Nov 7, 2007

LISTEN, I DONT GIVE A SH*T IF I'M OPEN TO ABUSE, I JUST TAKE IT ON THE CHIN, 00PS I'M SORRY "25 YEARS AGO" SEE WHAT I MEAN THO "BANGING ON ABOUT IT" NO MATTER WHAT THE SCORE IS I WILL STILL COME ON THIS SITE SITE AND TAKE ALL YOUR ABUSE, AND GIVE SOME BACK KIERAN, BUT I STILL SAY THAT WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND ;D

Ben Ben
Ben Ben Wrote: | 20.48GMT | Nov 7, 2007

blue blood liveley, nobody is banging on about it, as you put it. Kieran was merely correcting your mistake. if only the rest of you lot could be corrected so easily

The MIghty Steve
The MIghty Steve Wrote: | 21.20GMT | Nov 7, 2007

@blue blood - There is an option on your keyboard that allows you to turn capitals off, come on mate it makes you look like your 5 years old. Though judging by your comments your probably not much older than that.

Villadaz
Villadaz Wrote: | 21.26GMT | Nov 7, 2007

Personally I am just glad that it's boardroom quotes that people are focusing on and not comments made by players....I.e. Melberg, which backfired on us. I am sure we wont loose come Sunday, a win however depends a lot of how our centre backs and centre midfielders perform.

blue blood liveley
blue blood liveley Wrote: | 21.38GMT | Nov 7, 2007

I KNEW I WOULD GET A REACTION, WHAT DO YOU MEAN NO ONES BANGIN ON ABOUT IT, I MEAN COME ON A BIG SPREAD IN THE EVENING MAIL THATS ALL YOU HERE FROM VILLA FANS "WE WON THE EUROPEAN CUP, THE REASON I AM WRITING THIS IN BIG WRITING IS BECAUSE I DONT KNOW HOW TO USE JOINDID UP WRITING :P

The MIghty Steve
The MIghty Steve Wrote: | 21.47GMT | Nov 7, 2007

Well, we did win the European cup, and Blues have won...?

I HATE BLUES
I HATE BLUES Wrote: | 22.04GMT | Nov 7, 2007

Bill howell is also a muppet ,dont like the way he has reported on villa in today's paper, it feels to me as if he's having a pop at the certain players

Luke
Luke Wrote: | 22.04GMT | Nov 7, 2007

I love the banter, keep coming Blue Blood. I even sensed some comedy in that last line! :P

blue blood liveley
blue blood liveley Wrote: | 22.17GMT | Nov 7, 2007

WELL, WE'VE WON THE LEYLAND DAFF TROPHY, THE LEAGE CUP, WE'VE EVEN BEEN PROMOTED TWICE , WHEN HAVE THE VILLA EVER BEEN PROMOTED ;D

The MIghty Steve
The MIghty Steve Wrote: | 22.24GMT | Nov 7, 2007

;D lol yeah love it! Its been ages since we last got promoted.
Oh and I think the League Cup was called the Milk Cup at the time, its just sounds funnier and more irrelevant.

avfc-anthony
avfc-anthony Wrote: | 22.25GMT | Nov 7, 2007

blue blood im sure your lower league team would do the same if you won such a prestige cup but the only thing you have to cheer about is a few runners up trophies from the championship

bassman1
bassman1 Wrote: | 22.40GMT | Nov 7, 2007

general gulag is yer basic chicken shit american forces commander, who is only good for bombing friendly forces, how many brits have been bombed by these twats,hardly suprising he steps in with his size 15 boots and hasn't got the intelligence to know how to extricate himself, maybe he's waiting for instructions from the cia or something

midland red
midland red Wrote: | 23.04GMT | Nov 7, 2007

I thought blues had some communication problems over the years, but it was usually just Sully goin out on a whinge and then Goldie saying "He didn't mean it".

Now is your General Napalm and Handy-Randy going to try and take over this double act that we've nurtured and honed to pristine condition?

Incompetence and double speak, mis-communication and spin...they belong to blues. 8)

Go develop your own sh!te friends. Stop copying us.

;D ;D

seb
seb Wrote: | 23.36GMT | Nov 7, 2007

Hope Villa get relegated the next two seasons, then we can compete for the Leyland Daff trophy.

I think most people on here are looking for their student login page.

I HATE BLUES
I HATE BLUES Wrote: | 23.43GMT | Nov 7, 2007

@ BLUE BLOOD I'D RATHER DEFEND A "SEPTIC TANK THAN A WATFORD GAP

TheGreatDando
TheGreatDando Wrote: | 00.54GMT | Nov 8, 2007

I hope MON puts one quote up in the dressing room on Sunday before the game from the Birmingham Mail story...

'Gold added: "I will admit, if we beat Villa on Sunday I will derive extra pleasure from it." '

Let's go to work! UP THE VILLA

Villa_Rules
Villa_Rules Wrote: | 02.05GMT | Nov 8, 2007

It is all about what happens on the pitch forget the big boys at the top let them play there own mind games

Badger
Badger Wrote: | 02.24GMT | Nov 8, 2007

[b]I will derive extra pleasure from it[/b]

I suspect he was thinking about one of the porn bros sex toys there.

Because let's face it, their board don't give a toss about the scum.

I hold my hands up here and have to admit I feel sorry for them , in that sense

Holteenders in the sky
Holteenders in the sky Wrote: | 02.29GMT | Nov 8, 2007

carson
mellberg laursen knight bouma
petrov reo-coker barry young
agbonlahor carew

Pure class!!!!!!!!!!!!

Leroy
Leroy Wrote: | 07.29GMT | Nov 8, 2007

It will be a tough match, especially when City love to bring BIGGER clubs down to their level and play scrappy football. Is it just me or does every blue fan here sound like a wounded cornered dog? 3-1 Villa

Terence
Terence Wrote: | 11.07GMT | Nov 8, 2007

Well, I think that the Aston Villiers are really smashing - their shorts are tight and they run around, which is also nice. I also like the Birminghams - their shorts are not so tight, but I think they mean well. Here's hoping it's a sunny afternoon. God Speed.

blue blood liveley
blue blood liveley Wrote: | 15.39GMT | Nov 8, 2007

LISTEN LEROY, HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU BEAT US TWICE WAS IT, SO WHAT, YOU'LL SOON SEE COME SUNDAY, WHEN WE TAKE THE 3 POINTS, GOOD OLD RIDGWELL IS BOUND TO GET A GOAL, AND "I HATE BLUES" I THINK YOU WILL FIND THAT ITS KITCHEN SINK NOT WATFORD GAP. ;D

blue blood liveley
blue blood liveley Wrote: | 15.45GMT | Nov 8, 2007

TERRANCE, WHAT ON ABOUT?

Chrisodon
Chrisodon Wrote: | 16.32GMT | Nov 8, 2007

Blue Blood, Do you know how to type without Caps lock on ? I Swear the intelligence of blue noses is nearly non-existent they'll soon be all cavemen and scraping their knuckles. JUST SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND BLUE BLOOD BIRMINGHAM CITY ARE THE SMALLER CLUB. there can you understand ?

Dizzy Mugs
Dizzy Mugs Wrote: | 17.03GMT | Nov 8, 2007

Chrisodon, he's doing it as an ironic joke. Basically saying to us that Bluenoses can't type properly. Which i think is a good little joke there Blue Blood ;)

It's great watching Villa fans and Bluenoses squabble. If anything, you guys take it way too seriously :D

blue blood liveley
blue blood liveley Wrote: | 17.07GMT | Nov 8, 2007

YES I DO KNOW HOW TO, I JUST DONT WANT TO CUS ITS P*SSIN ALL YOU WITTON WANDERERS FANS OFF, I'VE GOT MORE INTELLIGENCE IN MY LEFT NUT THAN YOU NUMPTYS. ;D

Tim Harding
Tim Harding Wrote: | 17.09GMT | Nov 8, 2007

Ridgewell is bound to get a goal? He's bound to concede a penalty!

Facts of life, should the worst happen and Blues get one over on us, then we'll move on with our season because we're a decent side.

However if Blues get beat, they're well on the way to being fucked. Back in the bottom 3 with their half empty ground, owners who want to sell, a buyer who no longer wants to buy, a manager who wanted to join Bolton, a MD with her legs open and an 'Army' who'll follow their team anywhere, as long as it isnt Blackburn on a Wednesday.

daishywasgod
daishywasgod Wrote: | 17.29GMT | Nov 8, 2007

sorry to break it to you sophisticates but no matter what team you put out you won't win. blues at home, tension rising...sit back and let the blue tide cover all.

Hotleenderinthesky
Hotleenderinthesky Wrote: | 17.51GMT | Nov 8, 2007

How can we get promoted from the top division??? Simple as!!! Last time we beat you twice when you managed top flight football (that seems strange mentioneing blues in that sentence) you went down so heres to 6 VILLA points n the s*** playin Bristol City, Norwich, Coventry etc next season UP THE VILLA!

blue blood liveley
blue blood liveley Wrote: | 18.00GMT | Nov 8, 2007

OOOOW, TIM, YOUV'E TOUCHED A NERVE NOW, THERES ONLY ONE PETER ENKLEMAN, ONE PETER EEENKLEMAN.YOU SAID IT, WE FOLLOW OUR TEAM ANYWHERE. BUT APART FROM BLACKBURN ON A WEDNESDAY, HOW LONG IS IT GONNA BE BEFORE VILE PARK IS TURNED INTO BARRACKS FOR THE YANKS.

Dizzy Mugs
Dizzy Mugs Wrote: | 19.11GMT | Nov 8, 2007

Hotlender in the Sky! Nice typo ;)

Holteenders in the sky
Holteenders in the sky Wrote: | 22.29GMT | Nov 8, 2007

Theres only one Randy Lerner
one Randy Lerner
theres only one Randy Lerner

gazza
gazza Wrote: | 23.48GMT | Nov 8, 2007

I,m livin out in the sticks a bit now and looking for decent boozer in north B'ham to watch the game. Anyone got any suggestions ?

WezAVFC
WezAVFC Wrote: | 05.14GMT | Nov 9, 2007

lmfao who said the second city derby didnt mean anything?? if you beat us sunday you will take it as you've won the league like you normally do yet we will move on and finish in the top half of the league you will be relegated and "bangin on" about how you beat us. lets look at this carefully not one blues player would get in the villa team on paper on cardboard on whatever surface you want to write it on we are the better team but as history shows form and the better team go out the window for derby day we "SHOULD" have a easy victory sunday but i wouldent count on it but win or lose we still are much more superior than the small heath scum bags!

NOW FUCK OFF BACK TO THE STONES YOU WAS HIDING UNDER LAST SEASON and take the pigeon lady with you pricks!

Ayersy
Ayersy Wrote: | 05.59GMT | Nov 9, 2007

Still people are criticising the team, how any villa fan can say they think we are going to lose on sunday...
we have 18 points from 11 games yes, now remember 8 out of them 11 games have been against teams in the top 10 plus bolton and tottenham away. Now we have a pretty easy run of games apart from arsenal, this is where we really have to make it count, turning draws into wins.

I think with such a young, passionate team, they wont bottle it this time against the scum. i would like to see gardner in the team for this game add that extra bite.

villa win 2-0 , close game, laursen or gabby man of the match.

Ayersy
Ayersy Wrote: | 06.08GMT | Nov 9, 2007

i wrote a large essay on blues and basically how bad they are and how they are well really in a different league to us, then i thought, ive just wasted 3 minutes of my life talking about birmingham.

to sum it up in a nut shell

Birmingham are a small club, and even the biggest of bluenoses would struggle to find a single aspect of there club that is superior to villa lol

enjoy your cup final bluenoses

oh and when we beat you again are you all gonna run on the pitch giving it the biggun then all runaway? haha

Dizzy Mugs
Dizzy Mugs Wrote: | 15.41GMT | Nov 9, 2007

Actually Wez, i wouldn't mind McSheffery or Muamba or Ridgewell. Although Young, Reo-Coker and Cahill are much better so forget what i just said!

WezAVFC
WezAVFC Wrote: | 18.26GMT | Nov 9, 2007

lol @ dizzy mugs exactly my point ;)

steveAV
steveAV Wrote: | 19.04GMT | Nov 10, 2007

@ blue blood liveley

My god you are a dum twat. How many promotions have you won? You get promoted when you are relegated for being birmingham you twat. lol
when you dont need to get promoted means you are good enough to stay in the top flight. Thanks for taking our rejects, we thought we were stuck with that idiot and we even got 2m for him. how does it feel knowing you have a villa boy wear the captains armband? ha ha ha ha ha
what cups have you won, the what cups, we bang on about winning cups? only cups that are worth talking about, the milky way cup. god you must be a big club yet you cant even sell all your tickets for the biggest game of the season, sorry getting game and beating mixed up there. ha ha ha
dont worry you boys will be blue on sunday, black and blue when the boys rough you up.
RIP PIKEY BLUES, hay look, i can know where to turn the caps button off

3-0 the villa, laursen,mellberg and carew

kohoutek
kohoutek Wrote: | 22.10GMT | Nov 10, 2007

Krulak shouldn't apologize, as he has nothing to apologize for. The turn of phrase he used is a common American idiom, and it simply means you don't lower yourself to someone else's level. America has a larger Jewish population than the UK, and the phrase gives no offense there. Gold is lamely playing the anti-Semitism card, and should be called out for injecting that sort of stupidity into the dialog when he knows full well that there was nothing of the sort intended. Stupid twat.

As for the City? It goes without saying they're the smaller team, and Gold proves the point rather nicely. Villa are the only Birmingham side to have brought any significant silverware home. The European Cup may have been 25 years ago, but it still means Villa have won the world's toughest club competition unlike virtually every other English team.

And the Blues have won f*ck all.

parker
parker Wrote: | 04.51GMT | Nov 11, 2007

new 3rd villa kit is out in da club shop black luks siko

richard hammond
richard hammond Wrote: | 15.45GMT | Nov 11, 2007

I cant believe that twat going on about the milk cup, ha ha what a moron, on the villa website there is a "honours" link, blues dont have one on their site! because they have won NOTHING! they have no honours, never have and never will, they cant even sell their tickets for a derby game. thats pathetic, lets go today villa ashley young and gabby to terorise the pikeys, up the villa

TILTON  BLUE
TILTON BLUE Wrote: | 21.41GMT | Nov 11, 2007

scum bags f**k you all, w*****s, steve you can act hard at your desk but i tell you somethin, you would'nt say it to my face you c**t, and no way should you have won, i'll f****n take you all on.

Dizzy Mugs
Dizzy Mugs Wrote: | 17.56GMT | Nov 12, 2007

Ah the joy of controversial debate about what team is shittest. ;) ;D

blue blood liveley
blue blood liveley Wrote: | 16.28GMT | Nov 13, 2007

NOW I'M DISSAPOINTED, NO ONES RIPININ IN TO ME YET, I THOUGHT DIFFERENT. :'(

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