Rumours of the day: Peguy Luyindula and the big man, Dean Ashton

have you been sniffing glue again......Ashton is going nowhere.

"if Dean Ashton really does have aspirations of one day playing for a big team and England, he's going to have to leave West Ham"

and you think villa will give him more options. Delusions of grandeur, me thinks!!!!

Come on Dean....here boy, come to a big club...

"if Dean Ashton really does have aspirations of one day playing for a big team and England, he's going to have to leave West Ham"

You brummie monkeys do make me laugh ... as if Ashton would goto your club ... come on !!! our clubs are similar in stature & we regularly finish above each other in the prem !!! If Deano wants a step up it would have to be to a big 4 club ... & you are seriously not one of those ... Ask any Stoke fan ...

I don't think Ashton will come to Villa. Would love to have him, but don't see it happening. West Ham fans, this isn't a dig at you, as I reckon you guys will do really well this season (fit squad pending), but...Villa ARE a bigger club than you. I'm not putting you down, it's just the way it is.

i think these west ham fans should read the milner blog from a couple of weeks ago, before they start shouting how much bigger their club is, newcastle fans thought the same. villa are the new big club.

Amog - I agree at the moment the pendulum is swinging your way ... but you know football, it could turn at any moment. For some reason, our club has seriously stopped spending & you have all the clout at the moment, but things change fast in football, only 3 years ago we were doing you 4-0 with a marlon harewood hattrick. Oh how things have changed. Seriously though I think Ashton would need a top 4 club to seriously improve his chances, after all if he was fit last week he would have played for England.

Ring any bells? You Hammers sound just like the Geordies about Milner - why would he want to leave etc. Then when he finally did leave, he was no good and never had been!

Amog - you can't tell a Hammer that. They are the most precious fans in the EPL.

All West Ham fans keep it coming. You must have seen that Newcastle fans also said that Milner wouldnt leave for Villa 'Because they are a big club'. If its true that we want Ashton, he'll be here before the deadline passes. He's a great player. We always take your players easily.

I will be keeping a close eye on all of the premiership line-ups 2day. If MON wants a forward with experience of English football, you would expect them to miss out 2day. Hoping that Ashton is missing from the West Ham team 2day. Just have a feeling that Doyle could be it.

Reply to askpaul68:

i think these west ham fans should read the milner blog from a couple of weeks ago, before they start shouting how much bigger their club is, newcastle fans thought the same. villa are the new big club.

do you mean this one:

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Without wishing to get into the 'my club's bigger than your club' nonsense, well ...it is, isn't it. Villa are giants in the footballing world and Wet Spam are ...not. A gap that is certain to widen to something resembling the Grand Canyon with the investment in VP this season. Cone on Dean, you know you want to.

milner wanted to leave the north east ... deano would not trade london for birmingham ... the guy has brains ... and class. he has a family too & wouldn't want them growing up sounding like they have 4 gob stoppers & a whistle in their mouths.

Reply to hammertime:

milner wanted to leave the north east ... deano would not trade london for birmingham ... the guy has brains ... and class. he has a family too & wouldn't want them growing up sounding like they have 4 gob stoppers & a whistle in their mouths.

No and he does not want them to sound like they come from the Eastend and talk like the Bianca either, or eat shit like jellied eels and wear stupid suits covered in buttons.

BIG CLUB? Any club that takes Marlene and Reo-coker off us for about 13 million are BIG MUGS not BIG CLUBS, you need to sort your defence out before anything else. I dont see how you think finishing four places above us in the league makes yu a bigger club, cos it aint because of the fanbase! Fair enough you have spent a lot of cash this summer but again doesnt make you a big club- look at Chelsea two years ago advertising their tickets on general sale in the national press!!

yawn more bollox from losers supportin an irrelevant club. the only good thing about west ham is moore, hurst, banks. we took harewood an coker an made em better players.
if we wanna push on we need better then ashton, and we can get it. wud milner hav swapped st james for upton? only to take a dump me thinks.

milner wanted to leave the north east ... deano would not trade london for birmingham ... the guy has brains ... and class. he has a family too & wouldn't want them growing up sounding like they have 4 gob stoppers & a whistle in their mouths.

'Ammertime - The'l awl saand like a banch of merchants if 'e don't get on the old frog and toad!

Cor blimey guv. A Wet Spam fan knocking Brummies for how they speak. Of course Ashton will turn down a contract worth millions and European glory because of his love for London. Get real; the place is an overpriced, overcrowded shit hole. Save up and explore the world beyond Watford. You might learn something.

Reply to dee:

Without wishing to get into the 'my club's bigger than your club' nonsense, well ...it is, isn't it. Villa are giants in the footballing world and Wet Spam are ...not. A gap that is certain to widen to something resembling the Grand Canyon with the investment in VP this season. Cone on Dean, you...

The only way to decide this discussion is to come back on Monday ... If Deano signs with you then I will concede that you are a bigger club. If he stays with us ... despite having an offer made of playing at such a world giant then he has decided that our club is better. SIMPLE ... !!! (by the way ... my money is on him taking one look & saying no thanks) ... but we will see !!

Ha ha, I remember last week when the Mags were saying James Milner will never leave Newcastle. A big club apparently, although the last trophy they won was in 1969!

You bunch of losers, West Ham are going nowhere. Is Big Curbs gonna take you into the top 6? Is he f**k!

Deano ought to come to the REAL claret and blue and challenge for trophies, not mid table mediocrity!

You've got to laugh at other teams fans when they come on our forum to type utter rubbish. AVFC are the team that players want to come to, they want to work with MON, they want to be part of a British* team. Just get down of your high horses and back in your boxes and watch MON make history with his team of young lions! I'd like to see a striker before the window closes and Deano will be welcomed with open arms. Oh, final point....off down the bookies to bet on the fake claret and blue to go down, bye bye hammers!

"our clubs are similar in stature & we regularly finish above each other in the prem !!!"

HAHA that made me laugh.....I think you have finished above us 5 times in the prem, however 3 of those we were the position below....we are fifth in the overall league for the prem and fourth in the all time league table....wheras you are nowhere to be seen.....you have never even won the league FFS !!! you cnat claim to be a big club unless you have won your countries league at some point....not even runners up a any point.....I have nothing aganst West Ham but you are the tier down from Villa in terms of size, the clubs that are a similair stature to us are Spurs, Newcastle and Everton...the dormant 4 if you like !!! you are in the next tier with the Man Citys and Sunderlands...othing to be ashamed of you are still a sizeable club....and to be fair i would put you top of that little league of size...anyway if Ashton has any ambition he will come join the Villa Park revolution.....that £50million spent this summer already before th 12 million on Ashton.....wheres your moey goe i was told by a West Ham fan hat he preferred to have Curbishley and the Egg rather the Randy and Martin...i wonder what he would say now haha !!!

Reply to hammertime:

The only way to decide this discussion is to come back on Monday ... If Deano signs with you then I will concede that you are a bigger club. If he stays with us ... despite having an offer made of playing at such a world giant then he has decided that our club is better. SIMPLE ... !!! (by the way...

Hammertime, all this bollocks about "my club's bigger than yours'" aside, I can't see Ashton moving.

Oh, and good luck against Blackburn. Make sure Incey Wincey get's some stick!

Be sensible for a minute eh, we hated Liverpool fans coming on here telling us how they are a much bigger club than us when they were after GB, and thats what makes them one of the most hated teams in England isnt it?

Lets not start all that crap with West Ham fans, because to be quite honest, they can keep Ashton. A great player when he is fit, but how often is he fit, he will be massively over priced when the money can be better spent elsewhere. I would rather see us break the bank for somebody like Santa Cruz.

Just a thought!

ha ha ... when can we play you boys again ... I enjoyed it last week. I wish we could play big teams like yours every week ...

west spam fans...are your blogs that crap you feel the need to read the real claret and blue blog...get a life and get over losing ashton.

Reply to Reddi!:

Hammertime, all this bollocks about "my club's bigger than yours'" aside, I can't see Ashton moving.

Oh, and good luck against Blackburn. Make sure Incey Wincey get's some stick!

Yes mate ... return of judas will be fun ... it's all banter with you guys ... like I said football is a funny old game ... we won't be too far away from you at the end of the season

Everyone is all going on about Aston going to the Villa etc etc.........But are we actually forgetting this is just a rumour and there may be no truth in it what so ever? Very happy with Milner signing! UTV

I agree totally with MagicTCD, Why just keep going on that our club is bigger than your club B*ll*x. We know how Liverpool got up our noses with it.
We shall see who comes and who don't. I'd be very happy if we got Ashton but there are plenty of strikers out there and Doyle could still be on the cards whatever O'Neil desides I'll go with that because he has a plan and its all going good so far.

I personally wouldn't move from London to any other city in England other than to play for or to manage Aston Villa. Alas neither is ever going to happen for me but for Dean Ashton the former just might.

Everyone is all going on about Aston going to the Villa etc etc.........But are we actually forgetting this is just a rumour and there may be no truth in it what so ever? If he did come to the Villa it would be a excellent signing and inprove his England chances as Villa are a very English player based club and with be watched very closey by the England Manager Very happy with Milner signing! UTV

If MON really wants Ashton he will come, the guy is looking to be an England regular... And guess what MON turns players into inernationals, also West Ham spent money lasy year but look st the crap you bought, injury prone money grabbers...! Your transfer budget this year went on paying off Freddie LOL, what a bunch of DEL BOY'S...!!!

Reply to Bob:

No and he does not want them to sound like they come from the Eastend and talk like the Bianca either, or eat shit like jellied eels and wear stupid suits covered in buttons.

Hello all. I'm usually on Vital Footabll.co.uk so this is my first post here...jellied eels, gobstoppers....we can all be glad that we don't sound like the Scousers though! West Ham are in serious trouble this season...their board is a joke and Curbs is still unproven as he has never had a fully fit squad to work with at WHAM...if they don't do well in first ten games you can expect him to be first casualty I'm afraid...and that would lead Ashton to our merry door in january!

hammertime...are you still blowing bubbles.me thinks your living in one..

Never normally get involved in these petty squabbles, but as a West Ham fan, I actually do agree Aston Villa are a bigger club at the moment.

They are signing Milner for £10MILL while we are looking at pandiani for f*cks sake!!

However, our only slight advantage is that we are in London and like it or not, that is an attraction for a lot of players, east london is not as big a Sh*thole as some may think, and the regenration due to the olympics would make it quite attractive to some. Pity we dont have a pot to p*ss in regarding transfers, which is another reason Villa are bigger than us at the moment.

I'm a West Ham fan who has lived in the West Mids for the last 7 years (5 of them in Erdington). I've always had a soft spot for Villa be it because of the colours (which your players stole for us after losing a bet) which give us a historical link or my hatred of Birmingham City. However, neither club is a "big club" Villa have more prospects then us at the moment but in football that can change quickly. The Ashton rumour has come about because the press are trying to destabalise our club and he has been linked with lots of other clubs already.

luyindula was on the message boards of avfc.co.uk
Someone says they have a source inside vp.
They said that while we were in marseille for the draw, ww alked with his offciials in france.
He also said we were close to finalising a deal for Falcao and also close to signing felliani

Sorry chats i think thats our spending done for now, i know we need a forward but come on ashton hes flat on his back in the treatment more than hes on the pitch

A little bit of politics ladies and gentlemen: if we would only invest in high-speed rail then some of the allure of London clubs for premiership footballers might evaporate for the following reasons:

1) Commuting from London to a midlands club might be a viable option
2) London would be much closer for footballers living out of town so they might not feel the need to live there.
3) Large-scale prestige development would be stimulated in cities such as Brum now within easy reach of the big smog.

This is all pretty naive. We're better off waiting until premiership footballers' wages rise just a little bit higher and they all have their own helicopters to transport their wags to the 'glamour' of Oxford Street W1.

You brummie monkeys do make me laugh ... as if Ashton would goto your club ... come on !!! our clubs are similar in stature & we regularly finish above each other in the prem !!! If Deano wants a step up it would have to be to a big 4 club ... & you are seriously not one of those ... Ask any Stoke fan ...

did we finish above u last season? did we finsih above you when you got relegated, did we finish above you when man u let u beat them on the last day of the season so they could get tevez? will we finish above you this season?

i believe the answers are YES YES YES & YES

Reply to mmmmmmmmmm:

luyindula was on the message boards of avfc.co.uk
Someone says they have a source inside vp.
They said that while we were in marseille for the draw, ww alked with his offciials in france.
He also said we were close to finalising a deal for Falcao and also close to signing felliani

I would love what your saying to be true but there is no chance of us getting another couple of major priced signings(Falcao 8M)(Felliani 6-10M). I think we could get a low priced Full back (Naylor or LOAN)and hopefully a forward (Not Doyle) although he would be better than nobody.

I don't want any more players thanks.

I think we've got what we need for now.

Just need the little elf magician to touch them up with his 'genius stick' and watch their league and international careers blossom.

Looking forward to seeing Milner and Betty on Sunday.

You have to give respect to Westham as they did win the world cup for England and you don't get any bigger then that

Reply to OH HOKEY COKEY STOKEY:

ha ha ... when can we play you boys again ... I enjoyed it last week. I wish we could play big teams like yours every week ...

Hey you played you're little hearts out on your first prem game of the season. well done. we had a shocker and you just about beat us, by the skin of your teeth.

will you keep that up over the next 36 games? i don't think so.

will you be playing in the fizzy pop next season? yes.

see you at Villa Park.

Bertie Big Bollox's...Hammer house of Horrors!...Carry on kids..I thought I was on a Football Blog!

falcao...top player ashton...top player would love either of them, i think the midfeild is sorted now, maybe another defender (mattock) and i think were ready for the rest of the season.

Makes me laugh to read about the Hammers handbagging on here about being a bigger club..remind me again when you won the European Cup or how many times you've been in Europe/Prem top 6 over the last 30 years.

As for Ashton, if he wants to progress rather than waste another season at a club with no ambition, a manager on the brink and more people with Asbos than a Peckham youth centre then good luck to the bloke - Milner saw sense and made his move

Unsure about Ashton as he does spend a lot of time in the treatment room. decent player when fit though.
I would much rather have Falcao at villa park. Get him signed MON and its a solid top 6 finish again with the prospect of a couple of good cup runs.

Chill People!! And as for gob stoppers and whistles I suggest all you cockneys check out this link.... Gimmme gob stoppers and whistles any day of the week!


LINK

Reply to Adam:

I'm a West Ham fan who has lived in the West Mids for the last 7 years (5 of them in Erdington). I've always had a soft spot for Villa be it because of the colours (which your players stole for us after losing a bet) which give us a historical link or my hatred of Birmingham City. However, neither...

the best post yet, very true...utv

Well we are playing in the UEFA cup and have the squad to get pretty far, we also have the squad to compete to get into the UEFA or CL places again. At the moment I dont think anyone believes West Ham will be challenging although it could happen. Curbs has brought alot of injured players and wasted alot of money, the owners were expecting big things with the level of investment they put in and didnt get it so they dont want to spend much more. I dont think Alan C wanted Ferdinand to go did he?

The point about him not wanting to leave London is mute as others have said, he could easily still live there and be playing at VP.

does anyone know what time the carling cup draw is and is it on tv i bet we will be playing one of the big teams again

This is so childish but equally quite fun really. Whether Ashton comes or not to Villa won't prove either way who's the bigger club, nor will these stats but I thought they were quite telling.

All time league table:

Aston Villa: 6th position 4282 points
West Ham Utd: 64th position 3416 points

All time EPL table:

Aston Villa: 5th position
West Ham Utd: 11th position

Average attendance last season:

Aston Villa: 6th position
West Ham Utd: 11th position.

Seems you second rate claret and blue-ers have made that 11th position your very own, bless ya.

Also, if you're such a footballing Mecca, why do your academy basically graduate and then leave? We'll have a sweepstake on Freddie Sears being the latest if you like just to make it more interesting.

UTV

How about Marco Borriello, big bloke, young and 20 goals in Serie A last season (with Genoa, on loan) and not happy at AC Milan due to the likes of Ronaldinho, Inzaghi, Shevchenko, Pato and Kaka' limiting his appearances..have a look. We could get him on loan as Milan realise they have far too many strikers on their books..

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ugly_betty...top stats this is realy gettin silly. anyway weve just drawn qpr in the carling cup

Didn't Ashton say something about only leaving to a top 4 club?
Although i guess with West Ham's huge financial troubles at the moment and having to sell players just to stop losing money on wages, we are in with a shot of getting him. Good player, hopefully he's over all his injury troubles of the last 2 years and i definitely think Martin O'Neill could turn him into a consistent England striker because Rooney and Owen are just playing crap.

Reply to Ugly_Betty:

Ring any bells? You Hammers sound just like the Geordies about Milner - why would he want to leave etc. Then when he finally did leave, he was no good and never had been!

Amog - you can't tell a Hammer that. They are the most precious fans in the EPL.

Sorry to all these deluded Villa fans saying that Hammers should check out the milner blog. Shite from your mouths. Deano will not leave. The difference between the two situations is that deano has signed a new contract, and milner was transfer listed by KK.... Its called the know-how

Now who's writing shite..Fludd, KK didn't want to sell Milner, far from it..know-how? More like self-induced denial.

If Villa decide to go for Ashton and the player knows what's good for his career, he'll be off. Stop kidding yourself, you're in a mess as a club.

If we forget about the who bigger stuff and just look at the facts. If you were Ashton where would you like to play

Villa Park
Lots of money
A great manager and a great supportive chairman
Playing in UEFA cup
Activly improving the squad and 1st 11.
Not top 4 yet but have a plan and are trying to get there.
Lots of young English players and an improved chance of playinbg for England
Will spend all of this season in the top half of the league fighting for a 4th spot and will probably finish 5th or 6th

West Ham
No money to spend and have a huge wage bill of injured journey men that were panic buys when tehy had money
A manager due to get sacked in 1st 10 games and the board sold Anton F without his agreement.
Not playin Europe
The club aree selling their players and not getting any in. No improvement to the squad happening
This year West Ham should finish lower half of mid table but if they are unlucky with injuries they could have a relegation fight to contend with
Will Fabio be going to West Ham on a regular basis this year? I dont think so

Tough choice for Ashton! Oh maybe he likes living in London so much he will stay in West Ham. Come on MON, this would we a great signing to close off a summer of improvement.

Reply to _AP68_:

ugly_betty...top stats this is realy gettin silly. anyway weve just drawn qpr in the carling cup

Away to QPR in the Carling

ugly_betty is 100% correct - and you can add the fact that we are OFFICIALLY the 4th most successful british club in history.

west ham are a club i dont mind at all, but your fans need to GET REAL, there would be a hell of a lot of positives for ashton to move to villa.

all this over mere speculation, personally i dont think MON has made a bid at all - fair play to him if he has mind you! but we'll see by monday wont we - but remember...if he stays at west ham - it may mean that we didnt make a bid at all and that its all speculation.

ashton and doyle both start today.

lmao....cockneys taking the mick out the brummie accent.....dont make me laugh

As Rich says we will know by Mon and if we dont get him it is becasue we didnt want him. As with Milner and other players playing for smaller clubs the fact is that if MON decides he wants a player more than likely MON will get the player. We are on a building process and this is just a natural place to be. We are not a top 4 team yet but we are knocking on the door and we are able to attract very good players (Milner & Ashton) that have aspirations of playing in the champions league that the big 4 clubs dont want. We are not in a position to get a top 4 player in (Boswinga!, MON tried for him) but give it a few years and you never know

As for West Ham, a year ago they could attract some players by offering huge wages but now that the Hammers have no cash they cant get anyone.

West Ham won't Ashton for 12 million pounds. Were I West Ham, I wouldn't sell Ashton for less than 15 million and would probably hold out for 18 million.

Reply to 666Monkeywrench:

How about Marco Borriello, big bloke, young and 20 goals in Serie A last season (with Genoa, on loan) and not happy at AC Milan due to the likes of Ronaldinho, Inzaghi, Shevchenko, Pato and Kaka' limiting his appearances..have a look. We could get him on loan as Milan realise they have far too many...

This, do this.

Anyway, when did Dean Ashton become Gert Muller?

i think we need to loan a striker. try fraizer campbell he would fit the bill perfectly and finish our squad with a cherry on top!

UTV

superb, west ham fans commenting on here...brilliant, a club thats shelled out close to 4mill to GET RID of a player.....WHAM fans, u bunch of mugs, hows the wage bill??

Reply to Luke_M:

Ha ha, I remember last week when the Mags were saying James Milner will never leave Newcastle. A big club apparently, although the last trophy they won was in 1969!

You bunch of losers, West Ham are going nowhere. Is Big Curbs gonna take you into the top 6? Is he f**k!
...

When was the last time you won anything you brummy cunts, your just like Tottenham, spend loads of money on shit players and dont improve on the place they finished the saeson before!

Seriously
any West Ham fan who thinks Villa is not a step up is..Delerious
Villa are in Europe...West Ham arent
Sounds like a step up to me
UTV

i think ashton wud be a great signing because carew is 2 slow and we need a faster person.
We shud try and sign Kevin Kuranyi from Shalke 2 he got something like 25 goals in German Bundesliga.
I could roll out a huge list of players we could sign under 20 million and them scoring over 20 but i havent got enough time.

zero chance of ashton joining villa in my opinion ... i was at the game yesterday & he is loved by the fans. Good luck against liverpool today ... they're there for the taking.

zero chance of ashton joining villa in my opinion ... i was at the game yesterday & he is loved by the fans. Good luck against liverpool today ... they're there for the taking.

gunner in peace
cant say that i know too much about the villa and your transfer dealings, I do know that Martin O'Neill is a top manager and you will achieve great things under him, seems to me a manager in the wenger model, who will buy younger players and turn them into world beaters, rather than pay silly money.
Anyway to the point of this post, i heard from a girl i knew at uni, who now does physio work down at the villa, that she was massaging 'Big JC', who i now belive is John Carew and he was chating with 'martin', i dont know who she means there because i cant see it being the manager otherwise what was said doesnt make sense. i emailed her back to see who she ment and ill post on here later. She said word was around the place that Martin O'Neill had turned his attention to young players from the lower leagues, as he had two signings pending. Apparantly both are foreign players one from euroupe and one from south america. One is a midfielder and one is a striker, although names were not mentioned. The european signing was apparantly a done deal, but from south america their were complications which may result in the deal not being finalised before monday. If this is the case the transfer will be continued with and completed in january.
Before people start moaning and saying this is all cr ap i am only relaying what i heard, it could be true it could be bull, but thought i would post it and let you guys no. Dont know if you think this is realistic or not, or if you have any idea who the players could be?
Good luck in the match today, I think you will beat them anyway, liverpool are playing shi te at the moment

VILLA = BIGGER GROUND / BIGGER HISTORY / BIGGER FANBASE / BIGGER MONEY / BIGGER MANAGER / BIGGER OWNER

NOW SHUT UP AND GO BACK TO YOUR EAST LONDON CATTLE SHED..

Reply to villarobin:

VILLA = BIGGER GROUND / BIGGER HISTORY / BIGGER FANBASE / BIGGER MONEY / BIGGER MANAGER / BIGGER OWNER

NOW SHUT UP AND GO BACK TO YOUR EAST LONDON CATTLE SHED..

BIGGER BUNCH OF ***S WHO THINK THEY ARE A BIG CLUB ...

We're everything but a bigger fanbase, fair play West ham dont half a few fans but this Hammertime is delirious we're obviously bigger and if Ashton does have asperations he will come to the Villa as we are a step up, we dominated liverpoo' today and all we need now is two strikers as Agbonlahor is a lazy shit and Carew is a big slow carthorse.

Ashton is apparently waiting for a top four club to come in - and if recent rumours have any basis - Manchester United enquired about him.

He would be an excellent signing for Aston Villa but I'm unconvinced he'll be joining any time soon. West Ham won't want to lose him without a struggle and £48m is a big big outlay.

PS Anyone else think its odd that Carragher hauling down Carew by his shirt hasn't made any of the reports of yesterday's game. I don't think it would always be given as a penalty but I think it's worth mentioning as Liverpool were doing the same against Standard Liege