Friday, 05 September 08, 10:14 AM · Comments (106)
Since we reported the Daily Mirror 'exclusive' about MON chasing Joey Barton, the rumour has not gone away.
Several 'news' agencies have reported over the last few days that we are going to go back in for him as a long-term replacement for GB.
This assumes two things; 1) we are expecting to lose GB and 2) MON rates Barton as the same as GB. I expect one of those may be true at some point, but that could be Barton being better than GB once GB retires rather than GB leaves. But we can't rule that out at some point in the next 12 months.
I know Barton is a bit of a thug but at some point he is bound to grow up and see the error of his ways. Or is he?
I'd hope so because he is an excellent player on his day and if he put the effort into his career that he puts into causing trouble then MON could make him an England regular.
I know many people don't share this view with me and I'm happy with that; but I think, a la Jermaine Pennant, that he could change his ways in the right environment. And what better environment than within the 'family' we have at Villa Park?
I may get slated for this, but I think if we can get him for a decent price and a decent salary then we should have him. I was hoping we would go in for him when he was leaving Man City, but I think in hindsight that would have been a mistake.
Things have happened in between that might just make him change - and if he wants to resurrect his sorry career there is only one man that will do it and one place to do it: with Martin O'Neill at Aston Villa.
Tough one this. Good player. Even with all the baggage. I guess if we got him on loan or on a free during the window I could see the reasoning behind that.
I guess it all comes down to your thoughts around 'forgiveness'. Can people change? Or should people be punished for their crimes forever and a day? You'd have to look into your own consciences for an answer to that.
Does Joey Barton deserve a chance anywhere? IMHO no.
I don't think he should have been allowed to play for Newcastle, it discuses me that a thug like Barton gets paid huge sums of money for playing football.
Loan deal maybe - so we can gve him back if need be!! Wouldn't want to spend any money on him, and he will always receive abuse form opposition fans from now on. As far as his on pitch disciplinary record is concerned Jay_Villafan, he has only ben sent off 3 times in his career. Also worth a mention while I was looking at stats (BBC website) Gareth is due to play his 400th gamme for Villa next time out - congratulations and hope he makes his 500th with Villa too!
i saw that andy in was a very sinister look on his face and a bad sarcastic smile on his face that didnt do him any favours with anyone especially samir nasri im glad he went on and got his own back on barton later in the match............big no from me on barton
The last game Barton came on he committed a foul within a couple of minutes. Did you see the look on his face after commiting the foul. He loved it in an evil sh*t sort of way and he loved it. He is a criminal in all sense of the word, on and off pitch. I've seen enough criminals and their behaviour, mannerisms, expressions and non-verbal-communications in my time to know if someone has a criminal or bad 'mind-set'.
The answer is ....Nooooooooooo!
Sorry Luke, but there's no way this great club of ours would sign such a disruptive influence......NOT A CHANCE.
He has shown the odd good touch but most of those were left hooks to the face of a child outside Maccy D's.
Barton should try putting in a challenge on big Duncan Ferguson!!!
This is a load of bull sh*t if you ask me... Why would O'neil be after ANOTHER midfielder when we're already spoilt for choice?!? As for 'long term replacement'.... anyone remember that player we signed in the transfer window.... Sidwell or somethin?!?
Not to mention Salifou....
that id pay to see
can we set up a new sport for players who like to fight.....
how did my last post time travel?
Bloody smart arse...! You been watching too much Trek Bob..!
Bob..I told you that those that travelled over from the old blog had the ability to travel through the AVFCBlog wormhole..!
Great role model to kids. what more could we ask for
WHY???????????
1. he is not as good as barry
2. he is a thug.
3.he has had too many last chances
4.he is a thug.
5.he will disrupt the harmony at villa.
6. he is a thug
7 the geordies will rip us off.
8. he is a thug
9. he could be in prison by january.
10.hes a thug.
WHERES DE LA RED????
It's true Bob there is a wormhole..Look above at the comment numbering..I replied to you before my reply number 20 and submitted it..It said submitted but was not on display when I refreshed...It's gone into the wormhole..I'll go have a look in the forum under 'pure banter' and see if it's appeared there in the same time period..!
wormholes are interdimentional travel where its the same time same place but everything else is different.....not time travel
thats the ability to travel into different periods in time in your own dimention.....
why would he be gareth barrys long term replacement? he is only a year younger than him!
and he is too similar to reo-coker, sidwell and petrov in his style so we dont need him.
man city should put there money to good use by buying him, and let him rot in the reserves.
Bloody smart arse...! You been watching too much Trek Bob..!
We dont want scum like Joey barton at the Villa. Think back to Alpay (not a thug particularly) who was disrepectful to Beckham on the pitch. Straight out the door by Doug Ellis. That is the type of club Villa are and it should be kept that way!!!!
not trekki
things like sliders and quantum leap when i was younger and i also did some uni course on the possibilities of time and or dimentional travel
Good player, bad attitude
If we got him on a loan in January for the rest of the season, and he developed a better attitude under MON, i'd support him the same as i support the rest of the squad.
He is a good player and would add to Aston Villa in terms of quality, just not enough to outway the risk that bringing him here could be IMO.
I think he needs to take a step down to a smaller club than Newcastle, to show he wants to straighten out.Then have a clean spell there and play the footbal we all know he can.If he does this i'm sure then fans at top ten premier league clubs would be more welcoming to Joey Barton.
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not trekki
things like sliders and quantum leap when i was younger and i also did some uni course on the possibilities of time and or dimentional travel
Quantum leap! what a great series!.... could never wait for him to first look in the mirror!
is mon being linked with him because weve bought all the english players we can get, so now ones with troubles. mon needs to start scouting further afield than britian.
barton, heskey, doyle, DOW'''
do villa employ any oversea scouts???
untill mon signs a couple of top class foreigners hes going to be linked with every second rate thug and has been.
I'd seriously stop supporting villa if O'Neil decided to buy him. Hes not that stupid surely!?
Reply to notsosilentbob:
not trekki
things like sliders and quantum leap when i was younger and i also did some uni course on the possibilities of time and or dimentional travel
The standard of higher education back then must have been terrible, if they could even be bothered to show you how to write"dimension"
No thank you! There is no changing people like Joey Barton, he'll end up in the nick again pretty soon! People like him are scum! He's not welcome at our club! He'd tarnish the good name!
Id be more than just a little narked if we signed him! I'd lose all my respect for Martin O'Neill, Joey Barton has had one too many chances in football and he deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison! I would never back Joey Barton!!!
AL….Grammatically speaking shouldn’t that be...'couldn’t'
Reply to __AA__:
AL….Grammatically speaking shouldn’t that be...'couldn’t'
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backfired for Al me thinks!
Reply to AL:
The standard of higher education back then must have been terrible, if they could even be bothered to show you how to write"dimension"
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dude im not bothered how i spell it not important on here is it
Yep Bob...I'm getting the Mr Sensible Head practice in for when I become a Mod..Not!
Could anyone see Barton wearing a Villa shirt with ACORNS on the front.
Luke have you lost you're mind?? What message would that send out? It's just not going to happen.
oh and another correction
"if they could't be bothered to teach you how to spell dimension"
Time travel is all about speed lads. If i leave here and travel a minute faster than the speed of time, i'll get back a minute before i leave... or something.
time travel is something i wished i could do right now so i can go back and stop myself writing such drivel about time travel
by the fact we changed this thread into something so pointless shows how little we think of barton joining the villa
Here, this is how you work it all out. Don't any of you know that, you thickies...!
If a Minkowski spacetime contains a compact region Ω, and if the topology of Ω is of the form Ω ~ R x Σ, where Σ is a three-manifold of nontrivial topology, whose boundary has topology of the form dΣ ~ S2, and if, furthermore, the hypersurfaces Σ are all spacelike, then the region Ω contains a quasipermanent intra-universe wormhole.
Just to clarify matters Bob. I was right about that wormhole thing in ref to your post that moved places. The post you wrote did not jump time, it move though space in the same time. You mentioned time, I mentioned jumping back and forth between dimensions (between old and new blogs) Therefore the wormhole theory. So there....I'm right for once...
Top point about going off the Barton subject though..
Reply to __AA__:
The last game Barton came on he committed a foul within a couple of minutes. Did you see the look on his face after commiting the foul. He loved it in an evil sh*t sort of way and he loved it. He is a criminal in all sense of the word, on and off pitch. I've seen enough criminals and their...
The 'foul' you are refering to was actually a good tackle, he got the ball and then the player. I do agree he is a criminal and has a bad mind set.
MON could work with him and develop him as a player but he'll never be as good as barry and he'll never change his temperment. We have so many midfielders at villa and dont need any more.
Can you imagine Barton and Reo-Coker in training???
Spells T R O U B L E
not so much barton and coker but barton and SALIFOU!!!
Maybe MON thinks Villa need an enforcer. Crack a few shins, give 'em that Begbie look.
That T*@t better not be coming to villa or i think there will be a massive loss is season ticket sales!
he isnt fit to even lace GB's boots
As i said before, the only time you will see Barton wearing a shirt with 'Acorns' on it is when he's performing his commuinity service for his latest crime.
He'll never wear a villa shirt!!!!!
NO!!!!!! Absolute scum of the earth, I hope the FA ban him for life at his hearing this afternoon.
This is total bollocks who in their right mind would buy that twat - and… he's shite
What about all his charity work? And that puppy he saved from the burning well? And when he donated his eyes to science? And the time he stopped a combine harvester from running over Meryl Streep?
You're all too quick to jump on his back, you judgmental bastards. Shame on you!
Reply to moocher:
We dont want scum like Joey barton at the Villa. Think back to Alpay (not a thug particularly) who was disrepectful to Beckham on the pitch. Straight out the door by Doug Ellis. That is the type of club Villa are and it should be kept that way!!!!
I'd take Alpay back anyday tho
As for Barton, until he sorts himself out then I dunno why we would want him. Perhaps big John Carew could help him find god
Reply to Delago:
Time travel is all about speed lads. If i leave here and travel a minute faster than the speed of time, i'll get back a minute before i leave... or something.
mate, how can you travel a minute.. which is a measure of time, faster than the speed on light, which is a measure of speed, now i may be wrong, but if i remember my Alevel physics, when you approach the speed of light, time slows down, meaning everything else goes faster, it is impossible to go back in time ( unless you have that DeLorean from back to the future ) you can only go forward in time, by traveling at close to the speed on light ) ....
and i only got a B lol
NO NO NO NO NO and finaly NO!! He's been in jail for godsake!
He's probaly gay since that streth he had in jail!
UTV
Reply to joey_the_bullet:
NO NO NO NO NO and finaly NO!! He's been in jail for godsake!
He's probaly gay since that streth he had in jail!
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Nothing wrong with being gay is there VillaChris?
The guy's a nightmare.
Most of the team would be scared shitless on the training ground. Fancy playing against him - with no referee!!!!!!
If any of you ready FRONT mag, you will know the last page is called c**tdown top ten, i recently sent an e-mail to get a certain Joey Barton into it, so you will see where i stand on this one!
'If you don't agree that Joey Barton is a world class-brothers
a nasty c**t-and he is a nasty little scally c**t-c**t, then your all c**ts!
After all the c**tish things he has done to people he is still
gonna be allowed to earn 40 grand a week for playing the game
most us blokes would give our wanking hands for! The little waste ofair needs be sacked and then banned from football for life, then the total c**tsack needs to be given the new job of cleaning festival toilets naked with open wounds, and as payment for his work he can have a broken glass bottle shoved up his pasty mooning arse the C**T!'
I think we should sign him! lol
hes just been banned for 12 games! by the fa wtf should be life of what eddie said
because im concentrating more on work than on here im just not bothered about my typeing on here today.....lol
Banned for 6 games with the next 6 suspended.
We don't need a c unit like that, we're a family club with honest values. If he leaves he can join the to$$ers at anfield
Does anyone actually care about the England game tom? (I am English despite the name!) Personally im not interested until we play with the players that deserve to have the shirt and not the sh!t that are there now.
UTV
I wonder how many fan points we got today Bob for talking drivle?
I'm gunna find out if I can trade them in for some 'K'. There should be some sort of exchange rate, like 10 fan points equals one shot of 'K'..Now that would be sweet..
There is absolutly no way MON has ever said he wants barton as a long term barry replacement. Who broke the story? A Liverpool supporting journalist by any chance, its a wind up.
Joey Barton at Villa!?!!! No way!! Once a chav, always a chav!! Barton's just a typical chav who happens to be a footballer!
We don't need him at Villa because he'll never change
still even as a wind up it was a good discussion point
i seriously doubt that mon will have been interested in him i thin mons next target in ashton mon tried to get him on transfer day for 12m but was told 15 or nothing......
Reply to cav:
mate, how can you travel a minute.. which is a measure of time, faster than the speed on light, which is a measure of speed, now i may be wrong, but if i remember my Alevel physics, when you approach the speed of light, time slows down, meaning everything else goes faster, it is impossible to go...
Yeah all very well mate but i didn't use light as a measurement of speed. Besides im just speculating. I haven't actually tried it. Yet.
Sorry but i cannot actually believe that he is still in the league at all. There are so many people who would kill to be in his position, and he does kill to be in his position....
Reply to keefvilla:
Nothing wrong with being gay is there VillaChris?
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Ha ha I don't know, you tell me
As a Yank I have followed AmFooty all my life. There are several examples of teams picking up "bad guys" on the cheap, and, of course, it has gone both ways--sometimes the guy tears up his new team, just like he did his old, and sometimes the guy "gets it" and ends up being a team leader. My AmFooty team (Dallas Cowboys) about ten years or so ago hired a guy to oversee a counseling program with the team to deal with such characters, and it has been a huge success. Further, they also have the family type atmosphere that I have seen a few people mention on this site that Villa has.
I say all this to say that if conditions were right, maybe Barton could mend his ways and end up a successful Villan. Stranger things have happened!!
point taken but seriously this guy may just end up seriously hurting a fellow player or even killing someone, i just dont see him being the type of player that martin o'neill would appriciate as a person he picks his player by their nature and attitude....
the guy could become the next roy keane but only fergie was able to control him, maybe he's best going to work under fergie who will read him the riot act
Joey Barton is not welcome at Villa Park, shouldn't even be playing football.
Stupid thing to say Luke, you are more than entitled to your opinion but I still think its the most stupid thing you have said yet.
The man is violent why should he be given a job, what sort of message does that send out to people employing a muppet like Barton?
Theres no business sense him buying him too, you can't sell him for much clubs keep off loading him.
Absolutely no way, the man is an absolute idiot and will not improve our squad.
If he is an eventual successor to GB, MON may as well go out and but a top prospect from the championship without a criminal record.
Cant stand Joey Barton or anything he is associated with or stands for.
To be fair, he does play a game designed for idiots. He is simply rather high profile in his idiocy. A lot of them are just as evil/stupid but have a little more cunning in their badness.
He is a lost sheep. The shepherd loves them more than the rest. Maybe we will see him in MON's flock.
nan....I think your on the wrong thread..The 'Sheep and Moaners' thread is in the forum..!
Ohh no! Please MON don't sign Barton...He's trouble and he's a man on a mission 2 mess things up! I agree that people should always be given the benefit of the doubt or at least a 2nd chance...however how many chances has Joey had to prove the doubters wrong??? Loads...
If we do sign him i will support him and hope that O'Neil can reign him in. Lets just hope Barton doesn't mess up our dressing room atmosphere...He's a decent player but a bit of a nutter! Time will tell if Joey changes his attitude after all he surely knows its his last chance saloon!
Thats a shocker, I wouldnt have Barton in Claret and Blue. I think the FA should make a decision and give him a lifetime ban. At least then Newcastle dont have to release him and watch another team pickup the scumbag for nothing.
i recon he should be put in the centre circle of wembley with a full crowd and ever single football teams squad surrounding the pitch to just stare at him, he'll probably pi** himself into changing his attitude....god knows taking money off him wont change his behaviour! but if he knows the whole premiership is watching to make him change it just might work....if it dont think of all them people rushing the pitch to kick s**t out of him
i would rather go on holiday again with av33,s wife taglor and atlas again than have barton sign for villa!
This is all press nonsense because the transfer window has closed and they've got nothing to write about.
Everyone deserves a second chance.. I bet everyone on here has made mistakes they regret?? And the difference is Barton is famous footballer! So what he's only human regardless of the money.
If we was only talking his about ability we would all be saying what a great signing. Lets have him.
I bet none of you have ever even met Barton. He's actually a down to earth good natured guy. The press and police can make arses out of anyone they choose.
Reply to Nan_was_a_fan:
I bet none of you have ever even met Barton. He's actually a down to earth good natured guy. The press and police can make arses out of anyone they choose.
and u av probably in prison
look so ur sayin its right to smash a guy up his team mate.
i say are u a villa fan cus i dnt want tht to happen to ashley gabby salifou or anyone screw ya head on mate
I remember a few years ago Joey B went public that he should be playing for England, that he is a better footballler than half the then England midfield. Many serious football brains agreed with him. Ok, so he has been a violent thug, but he is still a good footballer and if he did come to Villa I would expect him to toe the line as much as I would expect the Villa faithful to NOT get on his back. Having said that; I hope that we don't need to buy a "dodgy" replacement for GB, if we did buy him I would expect MON to put his foot down with a firm hand to keep him on the straight and narrow.
actually I was one of the copps that did Bartun and it was a fit up right...we do anything to get our man. tuther guy started it first see and needed a gud spanking, but my gaffa wanted promotion so we did him good and proppa..
nan..how dare you say coppa's are arse's..sendin boys round with a warrant to find your stash of K see...you made enemy of the filth now lad and it ain't gunna be tolerated see..
If he can pass, tackle and score. If he says he loves the Villa. If he doesn't wanna play for the scousers. If he just needs a bit of love. Joey come home.
As a player, on his day i think he would be a good addition-especially under O'neills influence. But as a person i cant say i like him.
However, if any1 can change him MON is the man. And if oneil signs him i will have faith and appreciate that he knows better than me.
As purely a footballer, I like him! As a person he is a bully, a yob and appears to be an arrogant tw*t, but as I said as a footballer I do like him and I think he would be an ideal replacement for GB!
Two things we have to face here:
1)
rest of my comment..
1) GB is going to leave! We all have to face reality on that issue
2) Has MON let us down yet in his tenure at the Villa? No in my opinion, so have faith in MON abilities if he fancies this player. If anyone can get this lad to sort their life out, it is MON
if MON wants him and gets him, I will back him all the way!
a chelsea youngster who has been onloan to various dutch squads has been banned for a year after spitting at a ref, although a disgusting thing to do surely its equaly as bad, if not worse that joey barton kicks the crap out of a team mate and he only gets a 6 match ban?
Mickey86, I was about to say the same thing, it's a joke.
A Barton has had enough chances to get it right, I would be livid if we signed him.
forget barton, as a barry replacement!!!
theres 3 other options
1) keep barry, (which i reckon i will)
2) sidwell is a good enough replacement
3) an even longer term replacement, johnson from man city, he'll be availale soon, if they spend a bucket loads of money
i still think gardner will be the long the long term successor to barry
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Soz, luke, can't agree with you on this one, MON has a good dressing room at the moment and Barton would ruin that. IMO the only good price would be they pay us 10 mill to take him off their hands!!
I think barton is a liability how many games would we finish with 11 on the pitch if he played? not many. He's not good enough to replace GB anyway. If we have to replace him we have to replace him with class and barton doesn't come under that.