Upson bid rejected, Heskey on the verge of coming and Defoe going back to Spurs
Tuesday, 06 January 09, 04:01 AM · Comments (207)
If reports are to be believed we've offered West Ham £11mn. for 29 year old defender Matthew Upson.
Now, while this points to Martin Laursen having a much more serious injury then we're led to believe and Martin O'Neill fears he won't be coming back, okay maybe it doesn't but it could, £11mn. for a little above average defender is madness.
Don't get me wrong, it's not my money and Martin O'Neill can go spend whatever he wants on whoever he wants but if he spends this amount of money on this type of player, are questions going to be asked if we don't finish in the top four? He's not exactly a young player who has potential.
Moving on and if you we are to believe reports, Emile Heskey is about to come too. We'll be able to do this cheeky bit of business when Marlon Upson moves to Stoke, because we need to 'finance' the move for the Wigan striker.
Now, I'm a fan of Emile Heskey as a footballer and think he'll do a fine job for us. Think of Gabby on the right and with Young on the left, he'll hold the ball up well and distribute accordingly.
Still, these are all rumours and no doubt I'll get a bit of stick for suggesting Gabby doesn't play up front, but it's only an idea and just imagine the pace down both flanks.
Other rumours today involve Valencia from Wigan and Jones from Sunderland. We've done them before and it really is just speculation so I'm not going into it, even if both of them would be very interesting.
Something of note though; Portsmouth have accepted a bid from Spurs for Defoe and the talk is someone is interested in Crouch; could it be us?
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We dont need Upson, especially not for 11mn. Maybe 5 years ago but not now hes 29!
I'd forget about Heskey and concentrate on getting Kenwyne Jones. He's the same type of player as Heskey only younger, fitter, and more likely to find the net on a regular basis.
What's baffling me is all the interest in Jermaine Pennant. First Real Madrid, now AC Milan. If that doesn't say something about the state of the Spanish and Italian leagues then I don't know what does.
Couple of points on the Upson rumour...
In my opinion Upson has been a very good defender for that past couple of seasons now. I'd be willing to bet a large sum of money that without him, West Ham would have done a lot poorer with jokers like Anton Ferdinand playing alongside him. West Ham are not a fashionable club and as such their players don't normally get a lot of praise or coverage, nationally anyway.
Interesting you point out his age though Damian. Why does a central defender need to be young and have potential? Theoretical: If Martin Laursen was a couple of years younger and wasn't so injury prone, would you pay £11m for him? I'd argue that his form over the past 2 seasons alone was worth paying £11m for, if he was going to carry on playing like it.
Are you lot blinded by the fact he used to play or blues?Upson is a top 4 international class centre back,And in jan you don`t get those at reasonable prices.People who are moaning about his age are forgeting he is in his prime right now,As for the money,Damned if you do damned if you don`t,If o`neill was letting players slip to save money we can afford he would get slagged off for that.
My mate who lives in scotland and is a celtic fan,works at glasgow airport. And he swears to me that hes just seen aidan mcgeady boarding a plane to birmingham! He is well pissed off but then again he could be wrong and it could have been a look alike,but i wouldnt mind seeing mcgeady play for us!!
Crouch please.
Upson is a decent defender but nothing more. I think Gary Cahill is better than Upson, ok maybe not right now but hes almost there on the same level. My point is if we are going to shell out 11mil for him kck in the extra and get Lescott. I think we should be keeping with the youth system built around speed, thats why its disappointing to think Heskey is coming. Jones would be more of a risk but greater upside....even Diouf could be worth a risk in my opinion...Atleast it seems we will be fairly active this window either way....Nzogbia would be a sound purchase also...
I've always said Gabby isn't a striker.
As for Upson, Knight isn't top 4 is he. I think Upson is a lot better. Would make our defensive cover very strong. I like it.
look how far weve com under MON in the last couple of years and some of you still question his judgment,i suggest some people on here take there fa coaching badges and apply for a job as a manager because you make it sound so f@@@king easy
Why not Upson AND Laurson? Anyway we need a good center half and Upson is one. As regards age Vivavilla is spot on anyway we need some experience in the team. As regards 11 mill? Whatever the market is it is.
Heskey - Yep if you can't see Heskey as an improvement to the squad you need to find another sport to watch. He will add cover for Ashley on the left, Carew in the middle and Milner on the Right. He will add a 4-4-2 option that we are crying out for.
crouch is crap, as is heskey
we should go for:
K Jones, Valencia, Nzogbia, Bent, Podolski, Jovanovic, Walcott.
Upson is worth £5m max!
TALUSMMANVILLAFAN
We are just fans giving are opinions and maybe some wishful thoughts no one is judging what MON has done and who ever he bought we would be behind the, because they will be playong for Villa
Who's Marlon Upson when he's at home or away??? Must be a player/transfer mash-up!!
On another note - I thought you were getting paid to do this AVFC blog now Damon??? The Post Match papers (PMP) posts, player ratings (done by other people) and cut 'n' paste rumour pieces from the BBC site are all very well but it just means there's less analysis and comment from your good self. Getting lazy perhaps? And what's happened to Doc? I used to look forward to his post match reports!!
Reply to Leroy:
Stop with all this Lescott shite!!! He is one of Everton's best players and I can't see them letting him go for anything less than £20million and he's not exactly a spring chicken 27 if my memory serves me right!
. That would be a grand total of about £18million. The sum that was reported a few weeks ago that MON had to spend in January.
As I said in the last post, we will sign Heskey, Upson and one other possible McGreedy
Reply to lucky4:
In all fairness i think that this transfer is nearly guarinteed to happen. He can play on both wings, he is available now, has played for MON before and finally is currently playing for our feeder club noth of the border. I wouldn't be too up set with this one is price is right ie 8m ish.
Only the other day MON questioned the £12 Million spent by Man City on Wayne Bridge. Well i'm sorry but £11 Million on Upson is even more questionable! But in MON I trust and will support any and every signing he makes. UTV!!
Heskey in for Harewood, good move, makes the squad better.
Upson in because Laursen isn't guaranteed to come back from injury, MON can't afford to take risks when the Villa are this close. Also means you have more options in defence as Upson is left-footed (maybe deploy him as left-back in emergencies)
Would give you;
RB: Young, Cuellar, NRC.
LB: Bouma, Young, Upson.
CB: Laursen, Davies, Upson, Cuellar, Knight.
What team has better options in defence than that? (Prefer a proper full-back though)
Reply to villadam:
So you haven't given Shorey or Knight any stick then??
Reply to villajoe:
Dream on not in January, maybe the summer!!
We're still in the prem and two cups here. I'd say someone of Upson's experience and let's face it, while he's not been brilliant throughout his career, he's flourishing late on. If he adds security to that fourth centre-half spot and Randy & MoN are happy spending the dough, then fine by me. He's no long term replacement but nobody's claiming he is. As for the strikers, I'd say, get Heskey & Jones & Crouch. Just gives you so many more options and if we want to be top 4 and Europa Leage Champions we're going to need them. I think Jones could learn from Heskey too.
Which leads me to the question, if they all did sign.. What's the highest number of ex-noses that we've ever had in a squad?
Reply to Ugly_Betty:
Who cares as long as they've seen the light!!
Reply to Leroy:
diouf are you avin a laugh,our squad is built around unity,this player has done nothing but winge and moan at every club hes played at,with the pace of our team getting forward heskey is the ideal signing he is brill at holding the ball and cleverly laying it into the path of players running beyond him ,ideal for our way of playing
Reply to Timmy_Ra:
No sorry I haven't for me Knight is the morden day professional who is quite happy to play second string without throwing his toys out of the pram and demanding to play or for transfer requests. Also I lived in Reading for 5 years and have seen the best of Shorey, ok I will admit for what ever reason we are not seeing it and this could be down to moving, new training methods or just getting into the whole team mentality i don't know, but you don't sell a player because he has started right look JPA, Bouma and Petrov for examples
I think Upson would be a good signing. Maybe £11million plus is too much but I think he would add a great deal of quality to our squad.
I don't see why we can't sign both Heskey and Kenwyne Jones. We should be able to get them both for less than £10million the pair and would they add numbers and quality to our squad which most people agree that we need.
Lets be honest, if we want to qualify for the champions league on a regular basis and start to win things we need to spend some money to aquire good strength in depth. Football today is about having a strong squad, look at Man Utd, their second string would be good enough to finish top 6 in the premier league alone.
Reply to Evoflash:
Well what is he then? Sorry but that's ridiculous. You show me all the other players in the Premiership who have scored 9 goals in 17 games (or the same kind of ratio) and tell me what position they play. If he's scoring goals why would you even contemplate playing him anywhere else?
Please don't suggest he's a winger unless you can tell me what else he's got that suites that position other than pace. James Milner can cross the ball better than Gabby can and that's saying a lot.
Reply to Timmy_Ra:
If Upson is worth 11mil then Lescott is worth 30mil....so at 20mil lets snap him up.....Also, there has been plenty of talk that Everton want Big John. Maybe there is more to this "injury" than we know. If that were true logic suggests we could use him to get a Lescott or Arteta perhaps...just speculation of course...Seriously though, Taylor from Newcastle is worth serious consideration, solid british talent, about as good as Upson but for half the price perhaps. The 11mil you spend on Upson could net Taylor and Nzogbia. Heskey in for Marlon, ok thats an improvement, but everyone is raving about a 20 goal a season guy and he is not that, not in a long shot....
Again, just some gossip and opinion....i totally trust MON like most everyone else, but i want to discuss options....its fun for me...
Reply to villadam:
I currently live in Bracknell and have been down here for 10 years now I also thought Shorey would be a good signing but his confidence has been knocked and for some reason MON man management that has worked wonders on Ash and Gab just doesn't seem to work for him!
This is my first ever post on this site so hello all. I trust MON's jugdement and feel who ever he brings in will be right for us . My feelings on Upson are at 29 he is at the peak of his game, his in the England squad and will fit in straight away in the team. This suggest to me Lausen is out for awhile and MON needs a relible center back first and foremost.
We definately need a quality striker with experience who's big and can hold the ball up and get his he on the ball. Heskey for me fits the bill, he's got the experience and again would fit in straight away without upsetting the balance of the team to much.
Reply to Evoflash:
Look at how he has played this season he has even added goals, he is getting better all the time.
Reply to villadam:
Good point well made.
29 - 11,000,000
WHAT ARE WE DOING!
Reply to talusmanvillafan:
Actually i am....
Reply to ak_27:
Is he good enough? look at Maloney!!!
I think Valencia would be a good signing as too Heskey, but I think we have missed out on a GOLDEN oppportunity to sign Defoe, who would you rather Heskey or Defoe? (they are both very good so I wouldn't mind either)
Reply to Leroy:
lol, i thought you had lost the plot for a min,not all the post just the el hadge(dirty spitting bastard)diouf bit, lol
I cant see upson ever wanting to come to Villa anyways cus of the abuse he gets for being an ex blue nose and being an arse bandit.
and if we're gonna splash like 11,000,000 i'd rather we tried for lesscott, as he is a decenct cover for left back too.
Reply to Andr3_AVFC:
Defoe only has eyes for Harry! No amount of money would prise him away from his beloved!!
Reply to Andr3_AVFC:
There not the same type of player Defoe would not get in the team ahead of Gabby end of story.
We need cover for Carew i.e. Heskey and maybe someone who can play off the striker and score goals i.e. Keane or someone like him, these type of players can unlock defences in tight games, like when teams come and put 10 players behind the ball, and as we get more sucess these tactics will become more common against us.
Reply to Andr3_AVFC:
heskey defo = a team player,defoe =saggy faces love child play boy
Reply to bow77:
It would be a gamble but i feel Maloney never got a real chance as he didn't have a specic role to fit into the team. McGeady is an out and out winger who can play wide on both sides. He has unbelievable feet and tricks but sometimes lacks the final ball but i personally would prefer him over Milner on the right wing. I believe it would open up more space for Young as Mcgeady would extremly dangerous in one on ones so teams prob could not double up on Young as much. It would be a bit of a gamble but he would be working with the best winger coach in England and he does also have a high work rate on the pitch so unless we can get Valencia this Jan i can't think of any other winger available now and i really think we need one in asap if not only to offer cover.
Reply to boba fett:
Everton will not sale Lesscott end of story.
We are not Man city we dont have silly money so lets be realistic.
Reply to Timmy_Ra:
Harry isn't that good looking
If MON hadn't denied the link with Defoe I think he might have come. Just a thing I want to point out, I we NEED to invest and spend money in the transfer Market and sign good players so we can invest into getting a Champions league spot. We would definatly get our money back from the exposure to The Championship?
Reply to talusmanvillafan:
Atleast he could provide some entertainment for team mates....he has a mini golf green on his head...definate MON type!
Does anyone think that Gabby will become a 20 goal a season player? Or should we be looking to sign someone who is?
Reply to ak_27:
Totally agree that we need cover in this area even if it is just to give Young the odd rest.
But my point is i Cant rember in the last 10 years a player from the scottish PL to come to England and make a real impact, and there have been loads to come down with big reps and none that i can rember have done anything i.e. Miller,Barry Fergurson, Maloney.ect.ect.
But if this deal goes through i really hope i am wrong.
Reply to Andr3_AVFC:
shit I ment to say in the last sentence "Champions league" not championship lol
Reply to Leroy:
I never thought he would, but i have been really surprised with his improvement this season, if he carries on like this then i think he will be.
Also we have goals all over the pitch, this is important as teams have to stop more than one man.
That said i would love Owen at villa park forget the injurys the man scores goals for fun!!
4 players I would like to get that I think are realistic Jovanovic, J. Cole, Defour and Lescott and ok I know that would be a big spend but then we are pushing for the champions league
4 players we are more likely to get Heskey, McGready, Upson and K Jones
Reply to Leroy:
Well he has 10 so far and we're only half way through the season, or maybe not depending on how well we do in the cup competitions.
Reply to Leroy:
i think he can become that 20 goals a seoson player,and if we bring in heskey i think he can reach that figure this season
Reply to bow77:
Well we do have the advantage of Lescott being a Villa fan. If he knew we were interested, you never know what he might say to Moyes.
Reply to talusmanvillafan:
if you compare gabbys composure in front of goal now as opposed to 2 years ago,he is a different animal alltogether
Reply to vivavilla86:
It must be said that he scores more when Carew is playing....Heskey could provide that sort of service i guess, but Kenwyne Jones is very intriguing, because he can win the ball in the air (although not the same quality YET of Heskey) but has pace and is a powerful finisher...I believe Gabby will become a 20 per year guy and i hope he can do it consistently for us also...
MON just sign someone please so that we actually have something definite to talk about rather than all these rumours and speculation!
Reply to Leroy:
Jones is a good player but we have to relistic here and realise that Sunderland will not want to sell their best striker and def not for the price we have offered. Sunderland are not short of cash so you are prob looking at paying at least £12m IMO to get him. Same can be said for Lescott as Everton are very quietly coming into the race for 4th so why would they sell him unless stupid money came in for him. Upson is prob best CD available now so i would be happy enough with him. Heskey is cheap and would be effective IMO so if we add Bullard, Mcgeady and a full back to this list i would be happy enough at the end of Jan. That would be 5 players in, most of whom are probably available this Jan.
I trust whatever MON does, but assuming Laursen and Bouma regain full fitness, I don't see why we need another centre half.
Players who can play centre back: Laursen, Davies, Cuellar, Knight, Bouma (and even Barry!).
We have 3 injured at the moment and we're still doing fine. Do we really need Upson?
Reply to ak_27:
I agree with you there...except for Bullard. I have never really rated him, ive not seen him play that well that often, and im ashamed to say that i have seen plenty of Fulham games, only as i used to live there though!....replace him with Nzogbia and i think that the players you have named would just about see us through to CL. Do you think Steven Taylor is worth a look though perhaps over Upson?
A slightly worrying stat about Gabby is that he's only actually scored in one of his last nine games.
Reply to Leroy:
I was putting Bullard down as a playmaker. I really think we need one urgently. I guess Defour would be a playmaker but i have no idea how good he is and i can't see MON taking this risk. Any other playmaker center mid available this Jan?
Reply to vivavilla86:
How long has Carew been out? Its no coincidence.
There's no doubt Upson is quality. Im not too sure how he'd cope at left back if he was asked to sit in there. He's not exactly blessed with pace!
£11m does seem very steep, and the fact that it has been rejected i think MON should no longer pursue that one.
Nzogbia would be a good signing, especially now as there's talk of Hairy Redknob is sniffing round Shorey again.
One player that has stood out for me in recent weeks is Zat knight! Yes im suprised too... The only reason i can think of for us to be looking at another centre back is if Laursen is worse than feared or Shorey's off and Cuellar will become our makeshift rightback while Young swithes to the left.
Reply to Leroy:
Gabby scored 6 goals in 16 games whilst playing with Carew, he's scored 4 in 13 without him.
The clear thing is that while he's scoring goals for us, his goals-to-games ratio really isn't all that good. It's not particularly bad mind, but he's hardly prolific.
He's also on course to play 60 odd games depending on cup runs, the lad is going to burn out out this rate.
We dont need Heskey... For what? 5 goals a season?
Jones would be a better Asset..
Also.. In Midfied...
Sidwell is goodas a squad player, but not a regular fixture in the villa team (I prefer Gardner.. e should makea crazy Bid for Arteta!!!
MON: "No truth in the upson report"
LINK
WELL THATS F@@@CKED THIS THREAD UP THEN!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply to StickyAV:
this is so unlike o'neil to make it public on the web, so this is good news that he isnt that silly to pay over 5 million for upson if we can see it then so can oneil, the mans not that soft.
Reply to StickyAV:
From the official site, too.
We seem to be at pains to deny things a lot this window... perhaps we should put a few names out ourselves and see which ones they choose not to deny ;-)
lets start a new one about how much saggy face twattnap pissis me off,the guys a a liar and a crook,how is he getting away with talking about players from other clubs?and everytime i put the f@@@king tv on his ugly bastard face is on the screen evev during the ads
O'Neill has denied our interest in so many players I'm beginning to wonder if there is anyone left to buy!
Reply to talusmanvillafan:
Maybe his sons nice recent comments had a side purpose of making us think his dad can't be that bad, if his son likes our club and manager so much?
Reply to StickyAV:
dont care about his son, he just an ugly c@@t and i for one cant wait for the spurs home game if he thought he copt a load when we played pompey he aint seen nothin yet
would rather lescott then upson but im thinkin alon the lines of how long is super martin out for?
wud love to see a bid for valencia
Reply to ak_27:
I would have thought that Elano would be useful, but others have said his attitude stinks....I would say that Steven Hunt of Reading is better than Bullard although many will slate me for saying that...Defour is one that could be worth a look for the future or if we could manage to pry Steven Johnson from City away, although that is highly unlikely.....
ha ha that cracks me up, a whole morning discussing something that was never going to happen. What are we like? It just goes to show these blogs are nothing more than paper headlines cut and pasted! We need to get someone to do a blog that contains inside info, not just the sun's headlines! That said though, it is interesting to see the thoughts of fellow villans!! My fave one is still the de la red one from last summer... summer...
Also Damo, the above wasnt a pop at you, just saying its funny to read how much we all are wililng for these stories to be true...appreciate the work you put into this site
Reply to wheelo2020:
teachers pet are we
tut tut
I dont care if its true or not...im sick of trying to discuss formation on here, especially when we have no choice with Carew injured anyway....i still feel that something is a bit fishy with that injury...
Aston Villa have not bid for Upson, PHEW!
We don't need another centre half we have got 4 already. An attacking midfielder (preferably wide player) and a goalscoring striker (that rules out Heskey then) have to be our priority. MON has already stated that he isn't bidding for any player that we have been linked with in the press.
Reply to Leroy:
Elano has now fallen out with his last 2 clubs and i don't think MON would go for him. As for that Steven Hunt comment. AS an Irishman let me just say that the guy is brutal and i would be be sick to my soul if MON signed him.
Reply to talusmanvillafan:
hear hear
Reply to rob_h:
hear what?
personally i think we only need a midfielder who can calm things down in midfield and keep the abbl and play a pass. sidwell just seems to not inlfuence the game enough. its like playing 441 and 451 for the 10 minutes he acutally touches the ball. I know he is a scoring midfielder but so is lampard and gerard.
Reply to ak_27:
Safe to cross all of them out then! LOL.....The creativity void will have to be looked at in some way soon, but like you mentioned its not a necessity now. What about Mc Geady or Nzogbia and maybe Milner could move in to the middle for some games with a look to permanent move there down the track if he goes well....
I agree with you Damian "Don't get me wrong, it's not my money and Martin O'Neill can go spend whatever"
But he also wanted Shorey & was happy to pay £12m for Milner
Lets hope this is the last we hear of Upson
Nobody should be surprised that Defoe is going to Spurs. He didn't want to leave them in the first place. If we had really wanted him or he had wanted to come, it would have happened by now. We have needed a striker on and off since we bought Baros in and have been linked with Defoe on half a dozen occasions.
You need to think O'Neill style, where possible he wants value for money, he buys young and prefers English! He also likes the right type of attitude, Defoe doesn't fit into the latter at all !!
So with regards to targets, forget the obvious and start to think of players that fit the style he likes. Also remember the little hints MON offers in interviews re other clubs, merry-go-round, dependencies etc etc. It's entirely possible the players he would like, aren't available yet but may become available as clubs get their targets.
Start thinking Michael Johnson at Man City, Darren Bent , Spurs, possible Aaron Lennon and don't rule out Downing, Lescott and Glen Johnson. I don’t think you’ll be too far away……..
Reply to Mallon:
ure right there mate,ive said before defoe is a bit of champagne charlie,the question is broad st or west end and china whites with all the perma tanned sluts putting it out,no decision for defoe me thinks
Defore going to Spurs should clear the way for Bent to come to us. I'd welcome him with open arms!
UTV
dont think any of us has a clue who is after,it just a case of wait and see im afraid,if we keep this up we will all drive ourselves around the bend,
oh exept for heskey now or in the summer he will be in claret and blue,and i dont mean the wet spammers or burnley
I have a funny feeling something is going to happen today and I don't know why
McGready to sign and a fee agreed with Spurs for Bent
Reply to talusmanvillafan:
Heskey to Scunthorpe?
laursen 80% ready to play against albion on saturday so no need for another centre half untill the summer..
Reply to Stocky:
The thing about signing Bent is yet again Villa who are going for 4th will be signing a reject from a team well below us. It didn't work with Harewood, Routledge or to certain extent NRC. This is where is get pissed off. We should be bringing players in who are playing well and beating other teams to their signatures instead of taking cast offs. I would actually rather Heskey then Bent if only because of the fact that he isn't a reject if that makes any sense.
I've got a horrible feeling we're going to end up with Vassell.
Reply to talusmanvillafan:
I love MON but he aint achieved anything yet above previous managers. Top 6 finish- DOL, Gregory, Little, Big Ron.
Even useless gregory got us to FA cup final (mainly because Utd didn't play!).
There's going to be lots of speculation on players. We should go for reverse psychology, just list rubbish players that we want, that way when MON eventually does buy we'll be happy. I'll start, Rory Delap.
Reply to ak_27:
Heskey was rejected by the Red Shite. And the Bluenoses. He can't be all that good.
Reply to sasa:
In that Case I want Djemba Djemba and Bosko Balaban Back Please !
Reply to Altan:
Didn't Balaban start banging them in the Belgian league after he left? That's why this Janovic geezer worries me.
Jokes aside, craving for players like Podolski and ending up with Heskey just ends up killing me.
Isn't Dean Windass available?
Reply to talusmanvillafan:
nope, just saying although the stories are just taken from the papers its still a good forum to discuss stuff on
At what stage of the 92/93 season did we start going on a great run??? What do you think of out current team compared to the legendary big ron side with d&d upfront?
I'd take Earl Barret, Saunders, Daley, McGrath and Gary Parker. We'd finish top 4 comfortably with those additions. (Obviously at their 1993 fitness levels).
Reply to sasa:
what about Dailian? You cant leave him out.
You've both left Stan out some how
He would disrupt the team and probaly get chinned by MON in the showers (as Big Ron did) whenever he shouted his mouth off.
I forgot Staunton for LB, so take out Barret as L Young can play there.
Reply to odysseynumberfive:
iknew there would be one clever fuker
team of the 90s to present day
bos
earl bar
stan
mcgrath
southgate
Ash Young
barry
rico
parker
deano
dalian
Any arguments??
Reply to sasa:
Is Sasa Curcic still playing?
Reply to sasa:
Don't forget Ray Houghton!
The Villa website denies the Upson bid:
LINK
Reply to wheelo2020:
Yorke would find a place there, not sure Barry would make the cut unless he is performing at his best where he wants to boss the game. Prefer Taylor or Townsend personally.
Reply to Villain Down South:
Wakey wakey
Another bollox rumour!
LINK
Reply to sasa:
yorke agreed, but i cant see townsend or taylor in ahead of Barry, if we are saying at the top of their game....BArry is on of the top 3 midfielders cm in England
Reply to Timmy_Ra:
Someone who realises the origins of my username!!! I started using this site about 18 months ago and needed a username. At the time I'd read that Curcic won Big Brother somewhere in eastern europe!!
As for Houghton, yeah quality. But I was thinking of what January'09 additions you would make from the Big Ron team. It would be too easy to pick the whole team, r'ber Big Ron liked flowing on the deck attacking footie.
Reply to wheelo2020:
I enjoyed watching Barry in the back 3 with Southgate and Ugo. The young kid was a cool customer when sweeping up.
more transfer rumours:
LINK
heskey no
upson no
mcgeady yes
jones yes
and please stop all the talk of lescott really its quite ridiclous
i must say im very relieved after reading on the official site that no bid for upson has been made 11m for a very average defender who is 29 is in my opinion a joke
Dont think we will be able to prise Kenwyne from Sunderland
Reply to wheelo2020:
Not without spending silly money on an unproven player!
What great news the club have denied any bid has been made for Upson.
Mons a great manager but he scares me in the tranfer window
Reply to Stocky:
Never mind Bent, what about Dos Santos, he's young got the skills to baffle the best of defenders in the premiership and would'nt cost that much, one other striker that i think is very under rated is Tuncay Sanli of BORO, I think he would fit in well at villa and ofer us an option we dont have at the moment
Does anyone know when Bouma is actually set to return? Oh, and I personally would love to see us get Crouch.
You villians have no chance of signing Kenwyne Jones! Heskey is a more realistic target!! Why would you open Darren Bent with arms??? he clearly isn't good enough for a top half team!
Seeing as Harewood made just 1 league start can I now be proved right that he was a shit buy?
No Heskey, get Bellamy or Santa Cruz
Another link with a defender: LINK"
I like Upson as a player, but I think 11m is way too much. I'm curious if that's MON's way of getting rid of Shorey without having to buy another full back. Which is odd, but he gets good results, so whatever.
I'd like Heskey in. Haven't seen McGeady, but I've heard he's good. Kenwyne Jones would be good, but I can't imagine Sunderland would let him go for any reasonable amount money.
Reply to taglor:
santa cruz is shite, as is bellamy. we need Kenwyne!!!!
Reply to wheelo2020:
Dean Windass has been told he can leave Hull, straight swap for Harewood is on the cards! He is about the standard of player you will be able to attract in January.
Reply to taglor:
Definately no to Bellamy disruptive arrogant and to similar to Gabby. We need a big target man to replace JC ie Heskey, Bent, Jones or Santa Cruz. We have enough small speedy players!
Reply to Timmy_Ra:
Sky Sports Understands Dean Windass is on his way to Villa Park for a medical.
There's some Maccam on here trying to stir up trouble, bless him and his shit fizzy cola championship team
Reply to BlackCat:
Has Jones ever finished in top half of the Premiership? Has Jones scored more PL goals than Bent?
Will Diouf leave you for Wigan/Blackburn?
Have you done your maths homework for tomorrow?
Be gone WUM.
Not trying to stir you moron, just trying to make you lot realise you wont be able to attract any decent players in January! Shame you all lot want to sign 1 of our fizzy cola championship players!!
whats wum?
Reply to wheelo2020:
Glad you asked
Reply to BlackCat:
who is this idiot
Reply to BlackCat:
You only have one decent player worth signing!
Reply to BlackCat:
Sunderland 15th - Aston Villa 4th do i really need to carry on bye bye
Reply to sasa:
Its about form not Maths, I think thats why all the other villians on here want to sign Kenwyne... clearly you haven't got a clue!!
Reply to BlackCat:
he has got a point
Reply to wheelo2020:
Wind up merchant
Reply to BlackCat:
Talking of maths can i point out Sunderland 15th - Aston Villa 4th
Reply to wheelo2020:
Err, I was suggesting this little fucker is a school kid.
Probably a bluenose, but then again even noses don't have a basic school education.
Reply to Chiefy1:
God you are clever. When has anyone said Sunderland are better or higher than Villa? Again another Moron on this site.
hope we have a new face in for the west brom game
Reply to BlackCat:
Most probably no one in the history of football.
Reply to sasa:
Anyways lads/Morons it has been a pleasure reading all of your stupid comments about the players you will sign and who you want to sign. Good luck with Big Heskey up front for the rest of the season. And make the most of your 4th place position as it wont be long before you are back in 5th/6th. Now thats Maths!
Reply to BlackCat:
i never said you had you plank. Your comments about who we could attract i just thought i would point out why would, will and can attract better players. So who is the moron ?
Outs...JC, Marlon, probably Shorey? and should be Knight. Maybe a couple of the kids out on load also.
In's...Heskey, Tevez and probably LB if Shorey goes. I can see another defender in also.
I'm not saying this is my prefered options. I'm just stating my predictions.
Heskey here to work with MON to keep him in with eh England set-up. Tevez, cos I think he's not in Fergies plans and I don't think he will be in the plans of other's top teams. He may actually be cheaper than most think. He just want's to play in the Prem, so I'm sure he will play for a more modest wage..?! Not sure what he's on now..? Also he can be a starter or proper half time sub or rotate with Gabby. Gabby can't play all the matches and quite frankly Fonzy is not at top 4 level yet to take over. So that's my theory behind it..!
Reply to __AA__:
we have no chance of gettign tevez, dream on dreamer
Reply to wheelo2020:
At least give the respect of stating why not. At least I gave my reasons for say why it's possible. Come on then pal, give all of us your wise words of wisdom...!
Reply to __AA__:
Tevez gas apprantly stated he would love to go Real Madrid and they apprantly want him so that ends the tevez theroy
jesus is coming to villa park
Reply to pprid:
yeah i just seen him in a kingstanding cars cab on they way down shady lane with a villa shirt on
Reply to __AA__:
Tevez transfer will cost us about £30m. He's a Real Madrid target.
But he's def a MON type of player, just a bit out of our league at the mo.
This thread has descended into chaotic shite.
Reply to odysseynumberfive:
bit like MONs transfer windows.
Reply to sasa:
give him chance its only been 5days
wow this is getting rather tedious
Reply to wheelo2020:
only joking mate lol
Reply to CHiefy1:
I was including previous windows.
Reply to CHiefy1:
Where does that end the theory then...? Aston Villa are far better than Real Madrid. We all know that.
Someone mentioned he would cost £30mill. Was there a story a couple of months or so ago that MON had £30mill to spend on one player of quality..
Anyone fancy Thomas Hitzlsperger back at the Villa? He said he would come back if the chance came along.
I have heard that the General has applied for planning permission to convert part of the car park to a travellers' site. Does that mean that we are about to bid for Freddie Eastwood?
WE HAVENT MADE A BID 4 UPSON
Reply to pprid:
glad to see we have such in depth and mature views as always on avfc blog
Reply to BUTLER:
yes thats correct well done................................... we only found that out four hours ago
6 days in and no sign of any players arriving whilst Spurs and arsenal get some nice reinforcements, villa take the piss always leaving in late to sign players "Our Subs bench is a joke" salifou osbourne harebrain gardner guzan shorey great work martin didn't he sign most of them so expect more of the same, we buy players then let them go for a loss when most of us knew they were championship at best!
If the arse sign him we can wave goodbye to 4th straight away
All this talk of carews injury and no one knows nothing about when he's gonna return 'i think its all bollocks and he's off? Now its floating around laursen is off aswell to arsenal, if any of the sky4 came in for our players you got to think they'll leave, just like bazza wanted to???
Get some class players in quick ie......Benayoun
My money is on heskey and Doyle
Reply to Fitzy_7:
tis true, well actually a rumour, Martin O’Neill has reportedly sent scouts to watch Malaga’s highly-rated defender Jesus Gamez
Reply to Timmy_Ra:
Yes but as a clown in his local circus. It was his dream after his nose job
How about we get Heskey and then MON uses Emile to lure Michael Owen from Newcastle. Gabby and Young on the wings... OMG that would be lovely...
Not exactly building for the future though.
Reply to pprid:
ye i heard about that,i have no idea who he is though.... does anyone know if he's any good
Reply to KG2008:
£10million for the both? are you being serious?
in january we would be lucky to get them for £10million each....
idiot.
Whats the record for most comments on an article?
Reply to JonnyW:
not sure probally the whole de la red ordeal, but im sure this is up there
Lets have one more then;
VILLA SIGN KEN MONKOU'S COUSIN
LINK
Reply to JonnyW:
just seen it myself anyone have any ideas on how good he is i know hes a defender but is he a left back, right back or a centre back
Reply to Goldie7:
some i agree with but laursen to leave i just cant see that. theres not many players today that show loyalty. but awhile back i can remember him saying he would not be leaving because of villa sticking by him when he was injured. and he wanted to pay villa back. VILLA FOR LIFE
Gald the Upson thing was false, I hate that bastard from when he was a nose. I think we all know that Heskey is coming and I for one am happy with that, he'll make Gabby a 20 goals a season man and that's only good for us. People seem to miss the whole point with Heskey, forget the goals he scores and look at how he will pull 2 defenders away from players like Gabby and Young, cause problems with set pieces and make strong runs through the center. The rest of the rumours are bollocks, forget the papers they are full of shit.
Reply to __AA__:
"and should be Knight" sounds like a prefered option to me.
Sod hitzelsperger, he lied to the club last time saying he wanted to see who was in charge before signing a contract just so he could let in run down and leave on a free.
This is on sky sports today:
Malaga defender Jesus Gamez is keen to focus on his career with the La Liga club despite speculation over his future.
The talented right-back has been in fine form for his club this season with his displays drawing admiring glances from elsewhere in Spain and further afield.
Sevilla and Villarreal have both been linked with the 23-year-old, while scouts from Aston Villa were reportedly present at Malaga's 1-0 win over Sporting Gijon on Sunday.
Heskey will do nicely and Jones would be great too.
For the midfield McGeady or Bullard would be perfect.
I do think we could use cover but where. It seems like we have a lot of center halves, maybe a left back so Luke Young can move back to right back (NRC or Cuellar can be cover for him at RB) and if Shorey is gone then we need cover in case Wilfred Bouma gets hurt again. Three players that make our squad good enough to stay at 4th and maybe challenge for as high as second! Come on MON make our dreams come true, Champions League here we come!
i dont think hitzelsberger would bring that much back to us apart from that he played villa and the fans for muggs
does anyone remember the holte end giving upson some stick ie upson takes it up the arse he wouldnt dare walk out that tunnel in a villa shirt
coming up on sky sports oneil on greater things to come
Yep I was there in the Holte when Upson took a hell of a lot of stick. Uncalled for and out of order. And then he went off 'injured' after half an hour, which was convenient!
Upsons not coming, hopefully Heskey isnt either...
I hope MON signs:
a winger - Valencia, Lennon or McGeady possibly, so we can then let Milner play more in the middle. He was brilliant in that area against Gillingham!
a striker - Jovanavic, Podolski, Toni or Crouch. These forwards are proven goal scorers who will finish almost any chance they get, a type of player we havent had in a long time (20 goals a season striker). Ohhh and maybe Daniel Sturridge, he must know his chances at City are only gonna become even more limited and he is pure quality. He started his career at Villa too, would he jump at the chance to move home to Birmingham amd his former club?
a defender - Joleon Lescott. He is a lifelong Villa fan, he was born in Birmingham and if Everton accepted an offer, i know for a fact he would jump at the move home! I say we make a nice 12 million offer to start with.....
UTV
ohhhh and Sky sports have confirmed Villa have signed Arsenio Halfhuid from Dutch side Excelsior. Supposedly hes one of the best defensive prospects in Europe. I view this as a brilliant swoop!
UTV
Reply to Aero-4-Villa:
i can safely say joleon lescott will not be joining us in jan
LINK a new one for you all (maybe!!)...
Reply to LeonD:
10m sounds pretty steep
Reply to Aero-4-Villa:
When do we see him in the first team? Next August or next January?
Reply to Leroy:
At long last,someone showing an original thought and a good one at that.N'Zogbia would be a decent signing,as for McGeady,he's probably one for the future.At cenre forward,as the club are'nt interested in anyone we've been linked with in the papers,may I again throw the name of Bobby Zamora in to the ring.He's a tyical MON signing,high workrate and unappreciated for the job he does.
Reply to pprid:
Well we did have his dad at centrehalf.
Reply to villan450years:
lmfao
Reply to Andr3_AVFC:
Actually i would have Heskey especially as he will cost us around 14 million less than defoe.
Reply to BlackCat:
lets put it this way he needs to progress his career and that is not battling it out with relegation every season until eventually sunderland go down.
I reckon 7 -8 million and he is ours.
Reply to BlackCat:
Only decent player you have worth taking.
PS thanks for beating us to Gordon saved us 9 million he graph and needs to head back to the SPL.
Reply to BlackCat:
Good to see the interest you have shown in the players we could attract as there are not many that will be heading up to sunderland. Why would any one to go there ?
I think you'll have a real battle once we have taken your only decent player you have KJ. i reckon you'll jst survive 4th from bottom until next season were you follow your normal pattern and head back to the championship.
Reply to wheelo2020:
havent read on yet but must be a case for yorke and dublin up front, Merse in middle and maybe Mellberg above southgate - more for his attitude and that final game than anything
Reply to sasa:
I knew exactly why u picked it sasa u dufus!
It's a long shot i no, however;
Walcott, Arteta, Bent and some cover at the back, upson or who ever and we'd be top 4 for sure!
Friedel
Young Davies Laursen Bouma
Barry
Walcott (Playmaker)(Holding) Young
Arteta
Bent Aggy
That team barring injuries current and future would finish ahead of Arsenal for sure!
Thats Barry and Arteta in the middle with Barry holding, a la england and Arteta playmaker.
40 or 50 mil will get us there. Alot of money but theres plenty of dead wood in the club to sell if the moneys a problem, which i dont think it is!
Reply to Tonebone:
How's andikan?