Would a striker from Spurs or Portsmouth help in cementing fourth place for Aston Villa?
Monday, 29 December 08, 04:53 AM · Comments (145)
The rumours today are very much focused on one position; goal scorer and we do need one. We don't need one because we're not scoring goals, we need one because I fancy Harewood and maybe even Carew are off in January or at the end of the season.
Out of the two strikers mentioned I'd also much rather have Jermain Defoe over Darren Bent, but that's just opinion and if I'm honest, I can see Martin O'Neill going for Bent over Defoe.
It's not that O'Neill wouldn't like Defoe, it's that Bent will probably come for the football and he's probably more of a challenge to get scoring goals in the top flight over Defoe, who has done it week in week out.
Martin O'Neill doesn't seem to go for the finished article, rather someone that needs a bit of work, but I think he recognises we need two more players to sustain a challenge for a top four position.
Also, the thing with wanting Bent is, you're probably going to pay about half of the £16.5mn he cost Spurs whereas for Defoe, who has gone to Pompey and done exactly what he's done throughout his career, he'll probably cost a little more.
If it was a case of these two players moving and one coming to us, like I said, I can see Bent in claret and blue. The annoying thing, if any of this was true, would be that I can also see Defoe going back to Spurs and scoring for fun.
But please remember, these are just a couple of rumours with a splash of opinion - they'll probably never happen.
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I know this isn't relevant (sorry, Damian) but I thought it was worth posting: LINK
Would take Defoe over Bent, but i think we need two strikers next month like you said Damian not because were not scoring goals but because we need to give players like Gabby and Ash a rest rember they have played loads more games than the players at the other clubs with the same aims than us.
If either of these two got injured now were fucked.
saw that and pissed myself
Why would anyone want to leave spurs for villa? Villa is shit club in a dump of a city.
Berbatov to Manchester.
Malbranque, Tainio and Chimbonda to Sunderland.
Keane to Liverpool.
Defoe to... Portsmouth for fuck's sake!
Doesn't this tell you something about the wonderful ghetto that is Tottenham?
agree that we need two strikers but would prefer a "target man" (heskey) and a "finisher" (defoe/owen). ashton does both but isnt likely to be fit until march which is no good (as highly as i rate hime) as now is our chance to get CL football and to push on as a club. with carew injury prone we need to increase our options up front and to have some variation else we will be stuck watching a visiting team (fulham, pompey) defending deep at villa park and o'neill not being able to change it round. heskey would be a good player for us despite not being "fashnionable" with some fans.
Carew is going nowhere. Ludicrous to suggest otherwise
stoney mate
you are 4 points from the bottom of the table. 2 points off relegation. you just lost 2-0 to west brom
fuck me. who wouldn't want to leave spurs and for what its worth. your part of north london is the fucking ghetto mate
Toby
He is on his 7th club in 10 years. So, not ludicrous to suggest he might not be here next season.
I'd prefer not to be BENT over any of the afforementioned players.
Does anyone know of any official link to the rumour that we are after Sergio AGUERO?
Reply to stoney:
Er. Is this a genuine question? Losing to West Brom? dangling over relegation.. Mmm, let me think for a wee minute there.
Bent yes, Defoe yes, They'd both flourish at VP.
I think Carew would be more than happy to be a bit-part player. It'll give him more time to covort around in the lap-dancing clubs.
odysseynumberfive
I was going to post about that ..
He probably did it, but we all know he'll get off. Money talks ..
Reply to AVFCBlog:
He has just signed a new contract and has stated quite frequently that he has found his ideal match at villa
Reply to stoney:
Look at the league PRICK.
Reply to ncav:
I would'nt say Carew was injury prone , he's just injured at the mo. Agree that heskey would be a good addition , as long as it was not for to much dollar . Also think that bent is a better finisher than defoe, but hey thats just my opinion .
Reply to odysseynumberfive:
I have just spoken to a Liverpool fan who spoke to a police man who was in the nick when SG brought in. He says that Gerrard was brought in for "smashing someone's jaw" and apparently is the main suspect not just part of the crowd. He was also apparently wearing make up and in a state (pissed).
All of the above is unsubstantiated and alleged etc - please peak to my lawyer for a full statement blah blah
Reply to stoney:
Tottenham is 2nd only to Millwall as being the shithole of London
I would much prefer Crouch or Heskey than either bent or defoe .
One player we should look at is Brett Emerton we could pick him up for $4 mill maybe and use him as a Rb , very attacking player good defender crosses well too .
or there Lescott who would cost at least $15 mill befor Everton would listen at all .
Reply to SidCowanslovechild:
Very impressive. Thanks for the heads-up. I always thought Liverpool would choke. Granted I didn't think it'd be in this manner but it's pleasing all the same.
In the words of Jonathan Pearce, 'How hard? Gerrard!'
Would the new signing sit on the bench?
I think we're all agreed we look great with Gabby up front. Obviously the role the signing is going to play will influence who we can sign. If we're looking for a new bench warmer it's not going to be Defoe.
Reply to AVFCBlog:
I know he's had a lot of clubs but what SPECIFICALLY makes you think he's off? What have you heard?
It would be nice if a lot of people on this site tried to think like a football manager who has to put out a team rather than just constantly pick a player they "like". Some of the drivel is starting to wear me out. Damian, you are a constant advocate of 4-5-1. Do you really think Defoe can spearhead a 4-5-1? Where was he playing yesterday? For that matter do you really think Defoe is an ideal partner for Gabby?
I know he's an absolute cocknose but I think we might get Bellamy and I feel weird about it but would actually quite like that, pace, worklike, etc MON qualities i reckon. Just please no no no no no Heskey
agree with you that tottenham are not doing well at the moment, but i am telling you villa fans, tottenham will start to rise up the league, it doesnt help when the refs havent got a clue about football, you are due for a bad spell soon, by the way when we played you we dominated you, but you caught us on the break, and set piece, and if you get any key injuries to agbonlahor, or young, youre tactics of catching teams on the break will be much harder to achieve, we will spend big soon and ship out the useless prima donnas from spurs, and then you will see why spurs will always be bigger than villa, villa are good ,but we are bigger, and more likely to attract players, london or birmingham, i know which one id choose, coys
Reply to cobra:
Ship out the useless prima donnas? That will involve shifting an entire squad. There's only one decent team in north London (it certainly isn't Spuds) and we've comprehensively outplayed them twice this season.
And biggest isn't necessarily best. How many European Cups have you won again?
Reply to cobra:
Hearing the same thing for years yet i've not seen you moving up the table you just seem to be sliding down the table.
I love it they dominated us! In the last 2 minutes when one of your players had a long range strike and it deflected in off bent? Was that your domination-thoght so
We will spend big soon! Ha whenever you spend you seem to find the most useless buggers around. Keep doing it! Reduces the chance of MON finding deadwood!!! Keep up the good work in that department
PS great result yesterday-top draw. i see why players would want toi move to london.
Reply to cobra:uve sold all ur best players and r now tryin 2 buy them back,onwards and upwards or just BACKWARDS
Reply to AVMark:
Here’s the weird thing. Carew – archetypal, big, strong front man – leads the front line magnificently, but is injury prone and is currently injured. A replacement is necessary yet so much of what we hear about is clones for Agbonlahor. There isn’t room for two Gabbys in the side.
Or are we going 4-5-1 permanently? Are we dumping the idea of a big front man? Is Arsène Wenger going senile? Will Steven Gerrard become a steward at Anfield? Answers, no more than 50 words, on a postcard to Damo’s blog.
Gubbel, - Welcome to the blog.
AVMark
Yes, I think 4-5-1 is the way forward and yes I think Defoe could play as the 1, if properly supported by whoever is coming forward from midfield and the two wide men. IN essence, 4-5-1 for me is 4-3-3 when going forward.
The most effective way to play 4-5-1 is along the floor and the reason Crouch played instead of Defoe yesterday was because Tony Adams got it wrong.
If you watched the game you'll have seen that they didn't properly support him. In the first half that ex-Preston (I think) centre forward was playing on the right and instead of getting the ball out wide to him, he was more interested in getting forward and the player on the left was more interested in coming inside to pick up the ball.
Pompey got it wrong yesterday and had they played what they'd been playing all season they might have done better. There is a reason why Tony Adams will fail at management.
we have made a £15 million offer for bent and lescott on his way?
I believe Darren Bent has huge potential,he has good feet and is good in the air.When he was at Charlton in the premier league he was scoring for fun week in week out.Also,he was on the verge of becoming Englands striker.Under Martin,he would be a great buy for the future,he is young,strong and will soon be back in the England set up.
Apparently Gaz Baz has already asked MoN for a day off each week to visit Walton.
heard that Stevie G is pissed off as he's been given Joey's cell and he's left his Everton duvet cover in there.
What odds can I get of anything being left in Gerards house by now, probably had half the bricks already.
Same old scousers, always......etc, etc,etc.
Reply to stoney:
grow up Stoney, you childish prick.
Reply to AVFCBlog:
“There is a reason why Tony Adams will fail at management.”
That’s a bold statement. Time will tell, but loosing his mouth off about the sacking of Ince was indicative of immaturity. Now I’ve just read this. LINK Someone needs to tell him he’s the manager of Pompy and to keep his nose out of affairs that don’t concern him.
Damo, you still haven’t answered my earlier question.
We are certainly becoming a more attractive club for players with footballing ambitions. Forget the pseudo BECKHAM's like BENTLEY et al. BENT would be a good acquisition. He's quick and strong and can actually hold the ball up.
N'ZOGBIA on the left and Glen JOHNSON on the right would be an excellent prospect. By the way SPURS fans, the honeymoon with 'ARRY is over. Just like your sorry club, he's got limitations. You have reputedly got some of the best and most expensive players in the league, yet you play like a bunch of chumps that have no fight about them. i.e cockey cockneys.
At best, you'll be having a dog fight with WIGAN and BOLTON for 13th place. Get a grip of yourselves!
Reply to oldvillan:
Is this a question or a statement?
id take Defoe over Bent any day...
i would also like Lescott and Sturridge too(not only because he played so well yesterday, but because ive always been an admirer of him)
They are both English and both have big ties to Villa, Lescott - Villa fan...... and Sturridge - started off in our academy
i think Sturridge would love to come back home to Birmingham to a better club too. i think with Manchester Citys money, he must know chances will become even more limited to him when the big players start rolling in... if Villa make a good offer, im sure City would accept it and he would jump at the move too!
So thats who i want - Defoe, Lescott and Sturridge
UTV
mon would go for bent over defoe i think, he normally prefers a striker with a physical presence (carew,marlon,sutton, gabby).I would love Lescott. Other than being a villa fan he's a big physical presence, scores goals and can play at LB till Boumas back from injury/take over from Bouma when he's fit. How about shorey and 9 million??
I dunno, I can't quite see Redknapp letting one of his three strikers going, especially when Campbell is probably returning to United. If Redknapp gets a striker in then perhaps we'll go for Bent, but until then I don't think we'll have a chance on that front.
villa_tommy
"Shorey and 9 million"??? not a chance!
Shorey cost us about 5 million so that would be 14 million for Lescott? MON barely spends 9 million on midfielders so i dont really think he would spend 14 million on a defender.
i think Lescott would cost us about 8 million!
UTV
FFS MANN! Carew aint goin nowhere! he is a top class striker n we need 2 keep him if we want to mount a serious challange for the top 4!
We're doing wel wivowt CAREW atm bt when Carew is bk, villa will b defo top 4 finish.
Reply to Aero-4-Villa:
that would be an ideal situation but i just think that everton rate lescott too highly. either way the fullback situation needs to be addressed this transfer window.
utv
Reply to cobra:
Bigger prove it lets see your Honours list Prick.
As for London 60per cent of the English people have left cause it is full of fucking immigrants who fucking stab everyone look at the crime rates you fucking Knob.
Reply to Aero-4-Villa:
I think Curtis Davies was up in the 10 million region, wasn't he?
villa_tommy
you actually might be right. Lescott is a very vital part of their team if not the most vital so they might want much over the odds considering their chasing a place in Europe too!
Regardless, if i was MON i would pay, within reason obviously whatever they want for him. We do need a defender of his quality anyway to hold the defence together while Laursens out!
UTV
im not bothered if defoe or bent comes to us there both proven goal scorers but i hope in the summer he signs someone that is above the 20 goals a season mark and weve struggled to get that over the last few seasons
It'll be Lescott, Bent, & Crouch.
Looks like Routledge has played his last game for us:
LINK
Reply to odysseynumberfive:
The figure I have seen quoted for Routledge is 300k. At the risk of sounding like Damien, if Milner is worth £12m surely WR is worth at least £1M.
>"BENT would be a good acquisition. He's quick and strong and
>can actually hold the ball up."
Having watched him for the past couple of years for Spurs I can tell you that he isn't really very strong at all and he is hopeless at holding the ball up. He is reasonably quick (but not necessarily over the first couple of yards - which is the most important part of being quick).
What Bent undoubtedly is, is a good finisher. He is completely ineffective in the build up play but if you are a team that create chances then he will finish them off for you. The problem at the moment is that we (Spurs) aren't creating those chances and need a player that can get involved in doing this as well as finishing his fair share off.
I'm not too sure that Bent is a Villa type player to be honest. From what I've seen MON likes to play either a big, physical striker to lump it up to (Carew) with a couple of pacy wide players to feed off him. Or a very quick front man to get in behind the opposition if they play a high line, and to run the channels and pull the centre halves out of position creating space for a midfield runner getting into the box. Bent doesn't lend himself particilarly well to either option really.
A team like Man Utd or Arsenal would probably suit Bent best, in that he wouldn't have to get involved in the build up play because they have so many other creative players, but the build up play of those other players is such that he would get several chances every game and convert his fair share - a bit like Andy Cole did really.
Anyway best of luck for the season. I think MON has done great things there, really making you difficult to beat, physical, quick, well organised and very, very consistent. Please keep it up and beat Arsenal to that last remaining Champions League spot.
Reply to cobra:
sorry dude. big issues with this post.
1.first sign of a shot team is blame the ref. if west broms first goal hhad been chalked off then you still owuld have lost 1-0 and failed to score against the worst defence in the prem!
2.'when we sell the prima donnas etc' bollocks!! spurs always buy overated tosh and fail. spurs are there so everyone else can laugh at them. spurs always have and always will be shite.
3. 'when we stat spending' ha ha ha. you have spent millions and got a relegation fight. then you feed your layers to the teams above you in the league(which until recently was 19 teams). you feed our best players to sunderland for fuck sake.
4. spurs fans are all deluded, self obsessed tossers with no clue at all. your team is shite. the poor relations of london and second rate. Players use you as a stepping stone. wake up the league don't lie!! can't wait to watch the highlights of your games next season on itv
Reply to DaveyD:
thanks for a really constructive post. I think Villa fans are about like Harry Redknap at moment - kids in a sweet shop and any name that comes up we think we should be signing them. We do need a good finisher though
Good luck to THFC
Damian, Tony Adams may not turn out to be a great manager but personally I think any manager who decided to play 4-5-1 with a 5'7 10 stone front man wouldn't be destined to join the hall of fame.
Davey D, good post. I'm all for fans from other clubs posting constructive stuff, but some of the arse/spurs WUMs we've been getting on past couple of days need a good slap. Ah well half-term is nearly over so hopefully they'll get slapped in the playground.
please please please podolski i'd have the guy over any of the above named he is class and would also show that we mean business
what is with all this talk of joleon lescott coming to villa??? i know hes a villa fan and all but do you guys honestly think everton will sell not to mention selling to one of their prem rivals... no chance
on to defoe yes hes a goalscorer but would he actually start when we have gabby and carew fully fit. i do like defoe but to be honest i am a bit put off by the 16m price tag
we have a big striker and we have a speed demon now what we need is a proven goalscorer.... michael owen anyone?
Fitzy - Lescott is going nowhere. I predict Heskey will be here very soon.
Why would anyone want to leave spurs for villa? Villa is shit club in a dump of a city.
my nan made spurs it was here shit
Reply to stoney:
if i lined up 11 of my shits on a pitch they would beat spurs
Some spurs fans make the rest of us look like right twats. Villa are quite clearly a better side than us right now - we can argue all we want about who has a better team on paper or who's the bigger club, but at the end of the day, every single one of us spurs fans would happily swap places with Villa today. However, I do still think we're a more attractive option for Defoe, what with his affection for the club, Redknapp and London. As for Bent moving to you guys, i'd welcome that with open arms. Shocking at most things, although saying that MON will probably get the best out of him. If spurs can bring in Defoe and maybe Doyle, Bent can head to you guys, although we'd still be stuck the abomination that is Frazier Campbell.
Anyway, only thing I want to add is to the guys talking about all the players who have left us - barring Carrick, Berbacunt and Keane, no player has left spurs through their own will for years and years. It's always been a very attractive club to play for due to its fanbase, money and location. And that's only on the way up once our new stadium and training complex are both built - assuming we dont get relegated this season! Anyway, agreed, get that 4th champs league spot of those gooners and i'll be forever in your debt!
And since i've just seen it, rob h is just as deluded as the spurs fans who have come on here and embarassed the rest of us.
wot we need is some facts about who is coming to VP and we all no MON plays his cards close to his chest the only news i have heard is rednap says hes out of the race for defoe as some 1 else has put a big bid in for him and he wont match it ps jimmy greeves to make a come back . at leased tot mite score
Thing is Spurs have now got a great manager, plenty of cash, loyal fan base etc. I think they will be the one's to watch next season. the glory years are going to return. They just need some big glamour signings. Ideally these should be former world beaters no longer good enough to survive in the Spanish/Italian top flight.
Watch out lads the mighty Spurs are on the march again.
hahhahahahahahhahahhaha. Enjoy Championship football dreamers.
Redknapp said Younes Kaboul had signed for Villa and he ended up at Pompey. It's a smokescreen. They get Spurs back and we get Bent.
whats with all the imature comments coming from spurs fans are they so jealous of how well were doing that they have to come onto our blog and start running their mouths... thanks for clearly showing your jealousy towards us makes me feel good.
anyway swiftly moving on if there is any truth in the lucas podolski rumour i would bevery excited although i doubt there is.... please no heskey honestly he's past it in my opinion we need a goalscorer and heskey most certanily isnt that
Reply to AVMark:
Yeah, it has to be Heskey. Nothing else makes sense. Having said that, if Liverpool really want him, that's where he'll go.
Come Thursday all will be revealed.
I forgot about when he said that odysseynumberfive
You may be right.
defoe or bent i'd rather have owen whom is just waiting for a better offer to come in if he wanted to stay he would have signed by now im sure milner could twist his arm just imagine owen at villa? when did bent score last can any1 remember and defoe is good but not better than owen
Lescott - chances are very slim but he can always put in a T.R
Owen - must be desperate to leave by now
Valencia - Wigan would take the paper
Im not defending the spurs but didnt we finish 16th a couple seasons ago if villa don't beat hull then the toffs are right on us after that we play the local tramps who are just managing to string a nice run together hopefully we'll have afew more faces by then to bury em but lets just hold it down for a while.
This blog doesn't exactly get hundreds of comments i like it when others say there piece! Its all good banter at the end of the day, some fans are seriously dilluded
Goldie I like everything you said.
forget Bent, forget Defoe, i think we need a player like Lukas Podolski, he's a fantastic young player, he's powerful and fast. i wouldn't ming glen johnson.
pompey need the cash and apparently randy was in talks with their owner over a possible move 4 defoe hmmmmmm interesting
just in on sky news MON has just said we have not put a bid in for any players . but would like 2 strenthen the squad in jan but it is very hard 2 do so also reported rednap has put bid in 4defoe 15 million . offer 5million 4 owen and get him VILLA FOR LIFE
defoe is class dont get heskey hes a waste of time nd space when weve gt john carew heskey is crapppppppp get defoe
I think we should be a bit more adventurous.
We had crouch before, defoe's been around long enough to have won something, same for heskey, same for Bent. They're good players but they whiff of mediocrity and we've bought real potential class previously in Young, Milner and Davies and i think we should be carrying on in that vein only in the form of a striker.
I also think its the right time to bring in ability over nationality - Whoever that may be. Take a risk on Daniel Sturridge or a blunderbust of a bid like 25m for Carlos Vela.
Maybe.....
Yeah lets put in lots of bids! Bids will win us the title! We need bids!
Reply to Adam:
25m for carlos vela have u lost your mind!!!!
Reply to cobra:
Oh my god!!!
was this before or after you lost to west brom
Face it we are better than you in every aspect
better manager
better owner
friedel-gomes= Freidel(even most spud fans would not disagree)
Luke young-corluka= Luke young(more reliable)
Freddie Bouma-Assou-ekotto= Bouma(again more reliable)
Martin Laursen-Jonathon woodgate= Laursen(laursen one of best centre halfs in prem)
Carlos Cuellar-ledley King= Cuellar(is king ever fit?)
Ashley young-lennon=young(better all round game)
sidwell-jenas=(scores more goals from midfield)
Barry-modric= Barry(Better distribution and awareness)
Petrov-Zokora=petrov(again better distribution and passing)
Milner-bentley= milner(much harder worker, awareness)
Agbonlahor-Bent=Gabby(quicker, better finishing ability)
Does anyone know when the CSKA Moscow tickets go on sale?
Reply to AVFCBlog:
I wonder if Bently regrets his decision lol.
Both Defoe and Bent would fit well into our squad and be good additions. We need some more options to switch to 4-4-2 if the 4-5-1 isn't working so either of those 2 players would work alongside Gabby or Carew.
Spurs fans are hilarious, you have been poor for the past 4 seasons, inconsistent and beaten regularly by poor teams. Look at the table, you are 16th for fucks sake so any question of why a player would sign for us is retarded - it's a no brainer. We will be taking that 4th spot this season without a doubt and if we want Bent we'll also be taking him so get used to it, big clubs command the players and we are up with the big 4 now. I hope we meet you clowns in the UEFA cup, I bet you muppets posting shit on here now will soon disappear when you get spanked.
UTV
This is what pisses me off being a yid, we always try and use the we are better than you crap, lets face it villa are were we where 2/3 years ago under jol, and we are were villa where under O'Leary
Good luck to them, the fact they refused to sell there best player to liverpool last season, goes to show they have direction, what did we do in the summer? sold our 2 best players to man u & liverpool, Lets Hope Harry gets some new players in other wise it could be a long season!
the trouble with bent is he has never been given the chance at spuds but pre season didnt he bang 12 goals in then got dropped again when they signed the russian a decent run would do the bloke the world of good
white hart lane is one of the best toilets i have visited in London, i wont hear anything different!
some sick bastartd left 11 turds in the middle of the toilet, i think he was spanish, but he left rather quickly after depositing the turds
the nice thing about white hart urinal is that there is a decent football ground and team down the road, the 5th best in England i believe.
so everyone stop knocking white hart lane, now im off for a shit and then onto harry rednapp to sell it for 10 million!
Ignore the WUM yids. There are some proper spurs who've contributed decent posts. Spurs and Villa are very similar - but players normally choose them over us for London and/or more money. Yet I feel this is why they end up with duds - they tend to enjoy the lifestyle more than keeping their heads down and grafting on the pitch!!
I r'ber Roy Keane saying in his book that if he were offered the chance to play for Milan the last thing he would be thinking is the location, he'd be thinking its AC fuckin Milan.
At the moment if your English and a non-starter for England then you're better off going to Villa. We'll see what Defoe's all about, if he chooses Spurs then you know what he wants.
watch this space.bent and lescott,reliable info
Reply to oldvillan:
LOL
Just wanted to share this with you. A tribute to our top-class striker of the future!
I guess this site doesn't allow HTML codes. Anyway, I made a sweet computer wallpaper attributed to DELFOUNESO!
I would think Defoe would whinge like a little girl and disrupt the team chemistry. I think Bent is a very capable player. He could net 15 goals/season and work well with Gabby. He would be a bit cheaper than Defoe as well. I think we can all agree that a top class striker is a PRIORITY.
Reply to sasa:
great point made,defoe is more interested in the danielle lloyds of this world and china whites than grafting for his team,dont like him dont like his (big i am attitude),would rather have bent any day of the week
I really dont see MON buying any of these players for the prices the clubs have put on them . The players that have been mentioned : Defoe $16 mil , Bent $10 mil at least i dont see them losing too much more on him and they would have to buy a couple of strikers to let him go anyway . Lescott at least $10 mil again and thats if they would even listen , they are a pretty decent team who are going pretty well , maybe if he played for spurs then he would definately come .
THen theres Owen , Heskey , Crouch , Doyle , Bellamy .
Look at he players we gotten in last couple years Young $10 , Davies $10 , Milner $10 , none of the players mentioned are the type of players MON would go for unless they were for half the prices they want .
come on you villa! this jan could be very interesting!
btw news flash: Cardiff have made a bid for wayne routledge apparently worth 300,000.
honestly do think wayne will leave come jan, i dont think he is up to the prem, whereas he seems at home in the championship, you have a few seconds more on the ball.
fitzy 0
"what is with all this talk of joleon lescott coming to villa??? i know hes a villa fan and all but do you guys honestly think everton will sell not to mention selling to one of their prem rivals... no chance"
Fitzy, this talk about Lescott is based on fact - Lescott is a Villa fan and Everton dont have a lot of money which David Moyes has made clear on a good few occasions!
This means Lescott would love to join Villa and move home which i know for a fact! Everton then on the other hand might find a big offer from Villa to good to refuse.... even though like you said, we and Everton are big rivals for Europe etc!
UTV
Reply to Aero-4-Villa:
as much as id like to see it happening i just cant see this move happening especially not in jan
i think every Villa fan would love to see it happen.... and i think if MON actually wants him he will get him,considering the amount of money he has at his disposal!
In January give me Defoe, Sturridge and Lescott! ohh and maybe another midfielder with a bit of European flare, some Serie A or La Liga star....
UTV
sorry villa fans but apparently you're bidding on the only player in the entire world who doesn't want the champions league football... "However, Defoe spoke to Adams yesterday and expressed his determination to link up once again with mentor Harry Redknapp rather than head for Villa Park." from the daily mail..
MON has stated that he has not put a bid in for any player yet. So the paper talk is all crap at the moment and probably just agents trying to get transfers for their players.
However, the fact that MON hasn't put in bids is slightly worrying. We need 2 or 3 players and early in January not at the end of month or we could be out of the FA and UEFA cups by then.
Reply to stoney:
That is probably the most stupid statement I have ever read. Congratulations Stoney your mother must be so proud.
Let the silly season begin
I think routledge will go out, and we might see him back in the prem with cardiff next season. I expect harewood to go also, hes just not the same super sub as he was last season. I really dont expect shorey or knight to leave. As some people have speculated.
but I have faith in mon. hopefully he has another ashley young on his radar~
All our rumoured targets appear to want to go elsewhere in the Jan transfer window:-
1. HESKEY - Liverpool
2. DEFOE - Spurs
3. VALENCIA - Real Madrid
4. N'ZOGBIA - Arsenal
5. SANTA CRUZ - Man.City
...and so it goes on. Anyway I think once MON flexes RANDY's wallet, they'll all come running (like COSTNER in 'Field of Dreams') - "Spend it, and they will come!"
MON really does need to take a risk and spend that little bit more for that bit more quality were fighting 4 champions league place and all the players above in all fairness apart from defoe arent going to help us
Here's a suggestion...
In previous years we have all voiced opinionbs as to what MUST happen, who we need, who we don't need, who is too expensive, who will not come, who is not good enough for the Villa shirt.
On the whole, barring the odd exception most people's thoughts and opinions have proved to be random gobshite, all except one. That one person has used money wisely and is taking Villa to Champions league football and eventually the title.
So let's be big boys and make an early New Year's resolution - leave the Transfer Window dealings to MON, because he is the only one who knows what he is doing.
well said nan,i just dont want defoe hes just a london playboy let him go back to the spuds,they deserve each other
NZogbia $5 mil
Bent $10 mil
Doyle $5 mil
And at least 2 defenders Lescott , Johnson , Upson , Taylor , Hangeland . Or get Caldwell and McManus from Celtic .
Joe Ledley or Michael Kightly would also be good buys , would be good cover for injuries .
We need at least 3 good signings to get this last champions league spot and not Jan 30 signings like Salifou and Harewood .
This could be our only chance !!!
102. Nan_was_a_fan Wrote: | 11.20GMT | Dec 30, 2008
Here's a suggestion...
Shall we just close the site down then? What about leaving post match analysis to professional pundits?
Nan, there are alot of insightful and articulate people on this site who play and love football. It's like virtual management. i.e. pitting your wits against the pros.
We are all chuffed with MON and what he has done for the club, however, he is not infallible and so it has been proven. He would do well to listen to some of the views that have been posted on here in recent times.
He gets paid a good wedge, because ultimately the buck stops with him, be it we are successful or not. We are British, and enjoy telling other people how to do their jobs. It's great sport!!
apparently defoe has asked pompey to lower his valuation so arry twattnapp can take him back to the spuds,,,,,come to villa and be watched by capello every other week or go to spurs and be in a relagation battle tough decision i would say
why did we pay 1 million for routledge only to let him go for 250-300 thousand to be fair i would rather keep him and work on him becoming a right back or as cover because he seems to be doing very well at cardiff
can i ask u guys if u dont want carew to play for us anymore?
He is a good player, i wouldnt want him to go, and he is certainly better than crouch...
Reply to Fitzy_7:
Maybe he meant Carlos Tevez? Only explanation i can come up with....
Reply to Ipbopmalik:
Nan_ i must totally agree with Ipbopmalik here. Damian posts we reply, simple as. He encourages banter about transfer rumours or any other topic we all have our opinion. I consider you to be a fairly level headed optimistic and composed poster on this blog but i think you have got it all wrong with your last post. Its a simple case of dont post if you dont like the subject....I realize you start with "Heres a suggestion", fine, well i for one will decline your suggestion, i would much rather explore the possibilities with fellow fans about certain players and what they could bring to our club and how they can help us cement a Champion League spot.....
Bent - Yes
Defoe - Yes
Lescott - Yes
Are they going to happen? Probably not, but its quite exciting to think about our team with Lescott and one of the other two.
Heskey - No
Owen - No
Bullard - No
Are they likely to happen? More so than the previous names but not nearly as exciting of a prospect...
Reply to stoney:
well to start with let me complain
this statement is horrific and is a disgrace.
well im not fat but i am lazy and i'd like to say look at the table you fukin prick! your disgrace of a team could neva make the top in a million years!
next my transfer targets:
HESKEY perfect as a back-up. 7/10
D.BENT if he was good, or he'll be shit. 7/10
DEFOE unsure, but could be vital. 8/10
OWEN if newcastle stay in the wrong end of the table he'll want to move to a bigger club to rejuvenate his england career. 8/10
N'ZOGBIA probably could turn out to be the signing for us in the transfer window, especially as he can left-back left-wing and in an attacking position. 10/10
WILSON young and useless but he is a back-up right back. 4/10
G.JOHNSON a right back and can provide plenty of width to our play. 8/10
LESCOTT is a good player BUT is going to turn out to be a 4 horse race to get a position in our first team, even if he's a left-back, shorey, l.young, bouma (my fav player) and maybe n'zogbia are all contenders. 3/10
CROUCH is useful. 8/10
ASHTON is good but hate his hair. 7/10
BELLAMY isnt coming as man c lookd to have landed him. 5/10
SANTA CRUZ is possible but there are man c again. 6/10
DIEGO DA CUNHA is a brill player if we could get him!!!!!! 2/10
last of all is the people leaving,
HAREWOOD doesnt play enough and has lost his confidence.
ROUTLEDGE is crap and has found a home in south wales (cardiff if didnt know and are dumb, no affence if you support villa)
and possibly
REO-COKER tottenham are sniffing, they have a cold.
what do you think, reply to me!
Reply to Nan_was_a_fan:
The whole point of this blog is to discuss what we think will happen and what we would like to see happen. If we can't do that why bother commenting?
I think Arsene Wenger will see one of his players commit a foul and state that the player deserved to be sent off
In one of the papers yesterday it said that MAN C are trying as hard as possible to off load Elano, it's said that they had contact from one of the Milan's and Espanyol,they have given a price of around 8 million if so then why dont we put in a did, i just dont understand why MON dose'nt bye non British players. -COME ON MON 8 MILLION IS NOTHING FOR A PLAYER OF HIS TALENT-
up the villa
I dont think that MON will sign any more than two players and I doubt they will be established highly paid players such as Defoe or Owen.
Heskey is a possibility because of a relatively low transfer fee and wages, but the likes of Doyle is more realistic.
He will not sign a fullback unless he is a 17 - 18 year old to bring through in a couple of years, because we have L. Young, Bouma, Shorey and O'Halloran and MON is happy to use Cuellar and NRC there.
I think a back-up winger is his other target, if Ash Young or Milner injured etc we have no option, especially as Routledge seems to be leaving.
Reply to runner:
He only plays in the summer months and is a bad influence in dressing room. Last thing we want.
is there something seriously wrong with podolski as noone seems to be linked with him and for 6 million seems too good to be true the bloke is pure class but there must be a massive but about him
it seems defoe wants a move to spuds rather than us if this is the case then really and truly i have lost a lot of respect i ever had for him...
surely he can remember his previous spell at spurs where he wes a bench warmer at best and now he would prefer a move to a team battling relegation rather than a team challenging for a top 4 place... really im baffled the bright lights of london must be extradinary
moving on i agree with AP68 about podolski but cant see the move happening much like the lescott one... lets get in bent or owen or even crouch just no heskey or doyle
as for a back u winger nzogbia link just wont go away and he is also a very versatile player
i would love to see glen johnson and portsmouth need money so y not make a move we need a rb!!
I have no desire to stop all the gobshite, it would just be nice if people owned up to their errors.
Ramos is a proper manager.
Spurs and Pompeii are showing how the window should be used.
MON is wrong in looking for British players with a work ethic.
MON is poor in the Transfer market.
We will never progress unless we spend huge money on European players.
We are being left behind because of MON's outdated thinking.
All of the above crap was spouted in the lst 2 transfer windows by people still happily posting their well thought out opinions today. Incredibly they still stand by some of those opinions in light of what is happening - the biggest shake up the Premier League has seen.
You don't fit square pegs into round holes no matter how nice they look. If we were really that knowledgeable about football matters we'd be trying to identify MON style players who can be utilised in his grand plan.
Bullard may well be one.
I've had such a titfull of these Spurs going on and on about how brilliant they might be, and how crap we are. Spurs, at their best since the Premiership was formed have been also-rans at best -- so their pedigree is bollocks. Let's look at more recent times...Sacking a perfectly good manager in Martin Jol then replacing him with a man who looks like a Butch Aunt. Cue flying down the league whilst heamoraging huge amounts of cash on a goalkeeper who's not sure what his gloves are for amongst other comedy geniuses. I wonder how long it will be before we hear about Redknapp getting called in for a crisis meeting. Basically a heartless bollocks of an establishment. Stop boring us with idiotic drivel and concentrate on what you're good at, complaining about your own club.
People complained about Harewood coming to us, they hated him after the 4-4 Spurs, then they loved Harewood because he scored a couple of goals from the bench now they think Harewood is a pile of sh**e because he's not netted for a while.
Petrov was a waste of money, then he was a bargain.
Barry was a legend then the Barrygate saga began and we were worried, transfer window ended he stayed and he could f**k off to Liverpool, transfer window approaches and he's one of the best players in the Prem.
We're not fickle we're just gobsh**es.
Spot on Nanwasafan, leave the transfers to the man who's took us from the verge of the championship to the verge of the champions league in just over 2 seasons.
Nan_was_a_fan, I agree with your sentiment. It's great to spout off about footie and the Villa but I must admit some of the crap on this site the last few days has left me thinking I won't bother with it anymore.
Perhaps Damian could arrange for a section for grown ups, personally I wouldn't object to him being invited?
Gerrard charged!
Reply to mike s:
why do you thnk that diego da cunha wouldnt come to us because werder bremen reach champions league and always lose to sides worse then them and i reckon we could stay in longer than they have done this season.
i meant to reply to mike s about the players hes rating
what about McDonald from Celtic?
Reply to Stocky:
Stocky, how's Shazza?
Happy New Year
Reply to AVMark:
Treating Damo as a grown-up? I draw the line at that.
Here, let me go first on the Transfer Therapists couch.
........I made an ill informed early judgement of Petrov.
I'm as fickle as a 15 year old girl in my affections for Marlene.
I got cross and dismissed Knight based on a couple of bad days at the office.
I didn't believe that Gabby the Headless Chicken could be tamed.
I don't understand Milner.
There now I feel clean.
Who's next on the couch?
Reply to AVMark:
Great idea....then we wont invite anyone who supports any other team in the league, you have to be 18 and over and also if you were born in a year where it is an odd number then you cant post.......and naturally you have to agree 100% with everything that happens at the club....Paving the way for the most diverse blog ever...
MON most perfect manager, Aston Villa most perfect club
By Damian
1. AVMark : wrote 12:32 pm Jan 10 2009
Yes i agree, he cant set a foot wrong and stuff everyone who thinks otherwise.
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2.Ghosthunter wrote 4:23 pm Jan 23 2009
Yes top post AVMark, i agree.
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3. AVMark wrote : 5:12 pm Jan 25 2009
Damian do you think that we will sign anyone in the summer?
4. Damian wrote : Mark this is your first warning, please remember the rules of this blog, you are not allowed to speculate anything unless MON says so on the super efficient and always informative Official Aston Villa home page.
Reply to Leroy:
lol
wheres the match centre??????
Leroy you missed a hyphen there son - as in "non-arse". Good attempt overall, keep trying.
Leroy, the couch beckons, I sense deep rooted anger.
Something like Spot On
Im a Villa fan....its been quite some time since we have had anything decent to talk about. We are not talking about who is going to fill the vacant managers role or how much is the club being sold for....just thoughts of how we can improve the club, in this case through player personnel. It doesnt matter in the end as its not some sort of fan based competition, where the person voted to have the best answer wins the opportunity to spend the money and personally sign the transfer papers....just banter, how can anyone on here suggest thats not acceptable? Yes there is some crap on here, i have contributed to that at times, maybe even now, but its up to each person how they wish to support this club, i choose not to take the clubs PA as gospel and i believe there are always things we could do better to improve as a team club whatever....i wont be told what i can and cant say anywhere, certainly not on a fan blog...thats all, im off to see the boys smash Hull...if we play poorly i will say that we were shit....if we play well i will say it how it is....end of
We could talk about understanding and accepting the transfer policy employed by MON.
Do we accept there is one?
Do we agree that it has worked?
Would we like him to do something different?
My point was not that we shouldn't discuss transfers, but that there still appears to be a failure by some to understand the tranfer dealings that take place.
Reply to oldvillan:
you sir, are a tease. Give me the lowdown or give me death.
Reply to _AP68_:
German on site, yesterday I think, said Podolski is thick as shit and would struggle with language and hence thinks he'll stay in Germany
Reply to Nan_was_a_fan:
I still think Zat Knight is ok
I am suprised ReoCoker was dropped after seemingly being undroppable and then suprising me by playing quite well
I thought Gabby was going to be another Vassel
I thought Petrov was only good enough for Scotland
I don't think anyones good enough to sign for Villa and always think the academy lads will all come through and win the European Cup
I feel better - but won't stop me sprouting shit and you can't stop me! PS, leave poor Leroy alone.
Reply to stoney:
So North London is nice - get a life you Kosher Market seller
Wouldn't take Defoe - he's knocked Villa back a few times and if he came it would be for the wrong reason. Rather have Bent
Reply to SidCowanslovechild:
I disapprove of the shit you sprout, but I will defend with my life your right to sprout it.
Happy New Year Junior
Reply to churchil:
Happy New Year my liberty defending friend - don't drink too much, I am expecting great tributes to the Villa to be written next year and you will need your wits about you
Reply to AVMark:
Why play 4-5-1.Why not try 3-3-3-1.Or 5-4-1.Or 3-2-5.Or cut out the middle men altogether and go 5-5. This is better than thinking of names who might come but will not even be asked.