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Chelsea at Euro 2008: Mixed fortunes

Saturday, 14 June 08, 01:42 AM · Comments (292)

Chelsea players at Euro 2008 experienced mixed fortunes in the opening week of the tournament.

The Blues' French contingent - Claude Makelele, Florent Malouda and Nicolas Anelka - embarrassed themselves against Romania in their opening Group C fixture on Monday, strolling to a 0-0 draw. It got a lot worse for them yesterday when France were thrashed 4-1 by a rampant Dutch side, who put three past Italy earlier in the week. Holland have scored seven against the 2006 World Cup winners and runners-up in the space of four days. Group of death indeed.

Former Chelsea star Arjen Robben returned from injury to make a substitute appearance for Holland against France and was in sparkling form, setting up Arsenal's Robin van Persie with a magnificent cross before scoring one of his own from an acute angle. Current Chelsea employee Khalid Boulahrouz, who spent last season on-loan at Sevilla, started both games at right-back and didn't disgrace himself. If the Dutch do have a weakness it's their defence, although they have conceded just the one goal so far.

France must beat Italy and hope Romania lose to Holland in the final round of group games if they are to qualify for the quarter-finals. The Dutch are already through so Marco van Basten could put out a weakened team. Romania's fate is in their own hands; beat Holland and both France and Italy go home.

In Group A Petr Cech conceded three goals as his Czech Republic side succumbed to new Chelsea manager Phil Scolari's Portugal. Paulo Ferreira, Ricardo Carvalho and Jose Bosingwa started their second successive match. The Czechs improved on their performance against co-hosts Switzerland in the tournament's opening game, but they couldn't contain Portugal's flair players and eventually lost 3-1. With two wins from two Scolari's team is through to the knock-out stages, while Czech Republic can ensure qualification if they beat Turkey in their final group game.

Incidently, the BBC is reporting that Portugal midfielder Deco will become Scolari's first signing as Chelsea manager.

Pre-tournament favourites Germany, captained by Michael Ballack, went down 2-1 to Croatia in Group B. Slaven Bilic's side put their disappointing display against Austria behind them as they qualified for the quarter-finals in impressive fashion, making the most of some poor German defending. Tottenham's Luka Modric was Croatia's stand out player again.

Joachim Low's side - who face Austria in their final group match - are still fancied to qualify for the knock-out stages as group runners-up. Portugal await them in the last eight.

The final round of group games gets under way on Sunday. Portugal, Croatia and Holland have already qualified which means we'll be seeing more of at least three current Chelsea players. How many others will make it through to the quarter-finals?

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WestLondonBlue
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WestLondonBlue Wrote: | 12.02BST | Jun 14, 2008

Chelsea boys in Les Blues were less than convincing...time for all to go?

Lordmorf
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Lordmorf Wrote: | 12.24BST | Jun 14, 2008

It will now be interesting to see if Holland deliberately lose to Romania in order to eliminate both Italy and France, whilst still topping the group of death! Who would have predicted Romania and Holland emerging from this group?

lollipop
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lollipop Wrote: | 12.38BST | Jun 14, 2008

Wow HABS! That's some love affair you have with Robben!! LOL..I agree with you though, how FANTASTIC was he last night when he came on the pitch? He's like a bullet..so fast on his feet. Pity he's off them so much as he's always injured but i do find him a pleasure to watch. Did he mean to score that goal? It was an absolute beauty! He didn't even look where he was shooting! Think his and everyone else's reaction after he scored MAYBE says there was a bit of luck on his side! Still, a contender for "goal of the tournament" so far IMO..

Thought Maka played well again last night. Malouda? That's got to be some of the worst marking i've seen in ages! What was he doing marking dirty Kuyt anyways?!!
HOW GOOD is Boula playing as well?!! Is this a different Boularouz we see at the tournaments, or the same one that plays for us still?! Could of been MOTM last night i thought. He was all over the place!

Anelka played awful..AGAIN! Seriously, what's his problem at the moment. The look on his face when he walks onto a pitch says to me that his job is becoming a chore for him. Get a grip Nicky for God's sake!!
Thought Ribery played a blinder last night. France relied on him a little TOO much i thought, poor fella looked exhausted at the end of the game. Henry was OBVIOUSLY not match fit.

The game between France and Italy will be interesting..

mike
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mike Wrote: | 15.40BST | Jun 14, 2008

bolarouz rajkjavic ivanovic and bosingwa/paulo ferriera could be a back up for almost any def position
would hate to be scolari right now :)

Blue True Blue Joe
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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 16.11BST | Jun 14, 2008

The Liverfools need to stop flattering themselves, WE DONT WANT TORRES!

Aravind
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Aravind Wrote: | 16.55BST | Jun 14, 2008

Ballack looked out of sorts against the Croats

Blue True Blue Joe
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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 17.05BST | Jun 14, 2008

Although I wouldnt have brought him in if I was RA, I still think that Scolari is a good appointment. He may not play the football that our owner craves but would be able to if the right players were brought in, like Van Der Vaart and David Villa. Malouda was absolutley shite yesterday, He seems scared of chasing long balls and taking risks that you need to take if you want to score. He needs to offloaded as soon as possible. Robbens goal was great and he played really well against the french, I wish we kept him but he got injured alot and we got like $30m for him so I accept our mistake and wish him well at the Bernabeu.
Scolari will need to make some big signings in the summer if we are going to seriously challenge next season, We have only made 1 signing so far look at Barcelona they have signed 4 players already and Loserpool have spend £8m on a left back that nobody has heard of. Im hoping for next seasons team to pull together by next month. Hopefully this will be our team next year.

1. Petr Cech 1st team
2. Branislav Ivanovic !!!Bosingwa!!!!! JT!!!!!! Riccy!!! A.Cole!!!!
3. Ashley Cole
4. Claude Makelele Michael Essien
5. Michael Essien
6. Ricardo Carvalho Michael Ballack Frank Lampard
7. Andriy Shevchenko
8. Frank Lampard Joe Cole
9. David Villa
10. Joe Cole Sheva
11. David Silva/Van Der Vaart (Dont make me choose)
12. Jon Obi Mikel
13. Michael Ballack David Villa
17. Scott Sinclair
18. Wayne Bridge
20. Paulo Ferreira
21. Salomon Kalou
22. Michael Mancienne
23. Carlo Cudicini
24. Shaun Wright-Phillips
26. John Terry
33. Alex
40. Hilario

Blue True Blue Joe
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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 17.07BST | Jun 14, 2008

My post (#6) has messed up my 1st team
Cech
Bosingwa
JT
Riccy
A.Cole
Essien
Ballack
Lampard
Joe Cole
Sheva
David Villa

Lynn
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Lynn Wrote: | 18.31BST | Jun 14, 2008

Breaking News!!!
This is being reported on most footie websites.


Didier Drogba insists that he has no intention of heading for the Stamford Bridge exit this summer.

The powerful Chelsea forward has been strongly linked with Milan and their city rivals Internazionale, but has reiterated his desire to remain in England

"I have a contract with Chelsea until 2010, so I am still a Chelsea player," the striker told skysports.com during a promotional campaign for his autobiography back in Ivory Coast.

"Mourinho is my friend and I am happy for him because he was missing coaching.

"He is a top coach but, like I said, my contract here runs until 2010."

Drogba, who was sent-off late on during the UEFA Champions League final with Manchester United for slapping Nemanja Vidic, also spoke of his disappointment at ending the 2007/08 season empty-handed.

"I am really disappointed with myself (for getting sent-off)," he added.

"I lost my head completely and I let the team down. I should not have reacted in that way.

"I let myself down, the Chelsea fans, my homeland - but that is life.

"I have now lost three finals. One Uefa Cup (with Marseille), an African Nations Cup and now the Champions League, but that is football.

"Hopefully I will win the next one."


Anything to do with our new manager perhaps?

mike
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mike Wrote: | 18.38BST | Jun 14, 2008

well for all I care drogba can f$&k off!
he says he wants to leave when we don't have a manager, and then as soon as we get a good 1, he comes running back! Basterd

Peregrine (Chris)
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Peregrine (Chris) Wrote: | 19.32BST | Jun 14, 2008

So long as he scores the winner in Rome next year, I think he can be forgiven!

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alex Wrote: | 19.57BST | Jun 14, 2008

>TG

In the last post you wondered aloud why Spain, Croatia and Holland are playing such good football at the moment and England are not...the answer is in the flair players in their midfield...players who with a dip of their shoulders (or shuffling of their feet) can displace their markers and create space...most english players (midfield and attack) are workmen and dont possess enough guile...the clear exception is JC, but he lacks pace big time!

Jang
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Jang Wrote: | 20.48BST | Jun 14, 2008

Even Drogba can feel the euphoria of Big Phil. =) Me reckons that it could be a good thing that he stays afterall and form a deadly partnership with Anelka or DAVID VIYA!

Im going to sacrifice one of Ballack and Lampard for a traditional playmaker like VDV. So heres my team:

Cech

Bosingwa Terry Carvalho A.Cole

J.Cole Essien Van Der Vaart Quaresma

Villa Drogba

SimonT
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SimonT Wrote: | 21.11BST | Jun 14, 2008

@ 10.

Whoever tells Drogba to fcuk off... Same to you!

fan of makelele called sarah
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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 21.58BST | Jun 14, 2008

I like Netherlands very much, but I am sorry that they trashed France THAT much :D
I mean, I have some emotions for Zidane,Makelele,Ribery,Coupet...even Henry.

SimonT
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SimonT Wrote: | 22.02BST | Jun 14, 2008

Football can be very cruel, I tell you!

MikeL
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MikeL Wrote: | 22.13BST | Jun 14, 2008

It is not a new thing that Drog behaves like a little girl that needs slaping.

SimonT
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SimonT Wrote: | 22.24BST | Jun 14, 2008

What's that got to do with football?

mike
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mike Wrote: | 23.29BST | Jun 14, 2008

simont
why do you hold drogba in such high regard? He scored 8goals last season, behaves like a little girl, and after all that , couldnt be bothered to score more than Anelka! For all I care, if he doesn't get his f***ing act together, he can go toAC

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Jang Wrote: | 23.55BST | Jun 14, 2008

Chelsea Offer Drogba For Ronaldinho And Deco

goal.com:

Chelsea have offered Didier Drogba to Barcelona as a part of the deal to bring Ronaldinho and Deco to Stamford Bridge.

The two Barcelona stars are on Luiz Felipe Scolari's agenda, and Chelsea representatives travelled to Catalunya this morning in order to discuss the move.

Big Phil supposedly has a 120 million euro budget at his disposal, so paying for the duo should not be a problem. But with Didier Drogba set to leave, the Blues are trying to include him to keep some of their cash for other deals.

In particular, Chelsea are also interested in signing Samuel Eto'o or David Villa. Eto'o will be discussed today, but the purpose of this meeting is to reach an agreement over the two Brazil born players, who have been made available by Barcelona.

Chelsea have an offer of 30 million euros in addition to Didier Drogba, though Barcelona are expected to demand 50-55 million in a straight cash deal. They paid 40 for Ronaldinho in 2003, and 14 for Deco a year later (along with Ricardo Quaresma, rated at 7m).

Even if Barcelona are open to Didier Drogba, the African himself may pose a problem as he angles for a move to Milan or Inter.

"I have a contract with Chelsea until 2010, so I am still a Chelsea player," he told Sky Sports earlier today. "Mourinho is my friend and I am happy for him because he was missing coaching. He is a top coach but, like I said, my contract runs until 2010."

As such, the Blues have travelled well aware that they will need to put the money on the table if they want to wrap this up, particularly with Manchester City interested in Ronaldinho and Inter in Deco.

Absolutely genius Scolari!

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Stowe Wrote: | 00.39BST | Jun 15, 2008

I saw the Drogba story earlier today. I hope he stays, for all the people wringing their hands about him around here, he is truly a special player and I don't like out chances of finding someone to replace him. A strong center forward is hard to find and few guys lend themselves to playing alone up top as well as Didier. I'd love to see Villa come in and link up with im...I think that could be an absolutely lethal pair.

fan of makelele called sarah
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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 00.49BST | Jun 15, 2008

I think that selling Drogba for Ronaldinho (who is in totally bad form and will never return) and Deco (31 years old ...I personally hate him,but that is irrelevant...and we don't need midfielder we have them too much)would be the most stupid move ever. Even stupider than Shevchenko...
We don't need to sell Drogba...
Just to buy Villa...and winger.
Sneijder could help...yeah, I know he is a midfielder but he is younger and MUCH better than Deco.
p.s. David Villa just scored for Spain :)

Lynn
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Lynn Wrote: | 00.53BST | Jun 15, 2008

David Villa scores winner,another £5,000,000 on his price tag.

Habs
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Habs Wrote: | 01.06BST | Jun 15, 2008

Villa's price rising by the second.

It may have been a masterstroke to appoint Scolari, but having to wait until the end of the Euros (assuming Portugal reach the final) means all the prices of players we want: Villa, Van der Vaart, Deco, Quaresma, Torres... are rising by a few million every second. It may not matter if Scolari gets a blank cheque, but even Roman would want to tie up some deals before July, surely?

It's also nice to hear that Roman and his private helicopter have been seen at loads of games at the Euros. He must feel like a kid in a sweet shop. He's already picked out his favourite manager and hopefully now he'll be picking out some top performers like Villa. It also shuts up some people criticising him for knowing NOTHING about football. He's looking more and more like our chief scout, or interfering owner if you're a cynic, and hopefully with his greater grasp of quality football, he'll bring in more great players like Villa and fewer duds like Anelka, Sheva, Malouda, TBH, Pizarro, Boulahrouz... If he doesn't have to rely on the frankly shocking performance of Frank Arnesen to pick out players, Cobham should soon be awash with galacticos. Whether this will mean a handful of greats or a gang of over the hill star names, only time will tell.

KTBFFH (should soon get my Gene Hackman chelsea shirt)

limetreebower
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limetreebower Wrote: | 01.06BST | Jun 15, 2008

Yup. That should drop Hicks and Gillett out of the race. Come on Roman, it's between you and the Sultan of Brunei now!

mike
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mike Wrote: | 01.18BST | Jun 15, 2008

Hey guys Whatdo you think of villa in blue? Number 11!

Blue True Blue Joe
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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 01.35BST | Jun 15, 2008

Drogba all of a sudden wants to stay? I think its time for him to go, His sending off in the final just about summed up our season and the next season will be a new beggining, A new era hopefully with DAVID VILLA!

Blue True Blue Joe
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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 01.37BST | Jun 15, 2008

Ricardo Quaresma says hes signed for a "big club", Could it be us? I think its Inter but Im keeping my fingers crossed

Blue True Blue Joe
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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 01.45BST | Jun 15, 2008

I do think Drogba will go regardless of his comments

Blue True Blue Joe
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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 02.03BST | Jun 15, 2008

As much as I admire both Deco and Ronaldinho, I think that we should go for younger players. If we do play 4-4-2 next season then we will need to bring somebody in to replace the hopeless exit bound Malouda, "Dinho" and Deco could both play this role but they are 28 and 30. Why should we break bank to sign them when Rafael Van Der Vaart and David Silva are available? 2 young talented players than are only going to get better. I think that Drogba and Pizarro will both leave which leaves a spot up front with Sheva up for grabs (I dont think Kalou or Anelka are good enough for the 1st team on current form). David Villa is the player thay we all want and he wants to move to the premier league, Fat Rafa wont be given enough money by the yanks, Whinger wont break the bank especially since next season he will have : Adebayor, Bendtner, Eduardo and Carlos Vela at his disposal. The Mancs also have : Manucho, Tevez, Saha and Shrek, apparently we have put in the most work to get him so I would be devastated to see him join another Premier league club

mike
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mike Wrote: | 04.31BST | Jun 15, 2008

hey guys, bit off topic but take a look at the suspected Chelsea lineup

________cech________
bosingwa--terry--carvalho--cole
------------essien/ ----lamps/------
V d vaart. Ze german
Quaresma-------deco------ronaldinho
--------------------villa/drogba---------------

lollipop
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lollipop Wrote: | 05.29BST | Jun 15, 2008

I haven't seen the Drogba interview but SO hope it's true that he wants to stay! I adore Didier to bits. How some people on here want to wash their hands of him because he got sent off in the CL final is beyond me..What about everything he's done for us at Chelsea? People forget too easily and quickly it seems, just what an impact he's had on the Prem and what an integral part of CFC's results in the past 4 years he's been with us. OK, he screwed up big time in the Champs Final but he's been quick to realise his mistake and be big enough to apologise for it. It WON'T be the last time we get to the CL Final, guys..so please, please, please...lay off the big guy. Give him a break!!

fan of makelele called sarah
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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 05.39BST | Jun 15, 2008

In my opinion (call me stupid) Quaresma is overrated player who has speed and dribbling , which 90 % of Portugese have.
He would be bad transfer.There are much better players than him on the wings we could buy: ROBINHO,RIBERY...

Habs
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Habs Wrote: | 05.40BST | Jun 15, 2008

For all Didier's done for the club, his hero status must have been dented by his constant questioning of his future. He seemed to playing the Ronaldo tactic by saying that he had wished to play in Milan all his life, every week last season. He may still be a great goal scorer but the choice between him and Villa is a close one:

Didier is the most powerful striker in the world, and a great goal scorer on his day. However he's 30 now and very moody (though not on a par with Anelka's sulks) and £25m for him would be a great deal. And he cost us the CL final.

David Villa is the most clinical striker at the Euros, is only 26 and is itching for a move from Valencia and would be our Fernando Torres. However for all his amazingness his ability to adapt to the premiership may be questioned and giving him the no.7 shirt may make him the next Sheva or Mutu.

So the choice between Villa and Didier is a tough one. Keeping them both may make a great combo but with rumours saying that we're going to buy Eto'o AND Villa, i don't think Didier will stay. I don't think the club will rely on an all African front line of Didier and Eto'o because for the next Afican Nations Cup, our frontline will be decimated again. That's why i think (or maybe it's just a desperate hope) that Villa's signing is a shoe in. If we also buy Eto'o then Didier may be a gonner. That's because Arnesen has already said that Di Santo won't be a reserve anymore and Sheva seems to be an untouchable.

KTBFFH

fan of makelele called sarah
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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 05.40BST | Jun 15, 2008

26. mike · 7:18 PM · 14th June
About Villa...if that happens ,every night I will light a candle for Roman.

SimonT
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SimonT Wrote: | 05.56BST | Jun 15, 2008

32. Lollipop

Very well said, darling! I wanna marry you! :-)

We must learn the lesson of letting Robben go. Drogba must stay!

fan of makelele called sarah
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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 06.04BST | Jun 15, 2008

36. SimonT · 11:56 PM · 14th June
Simont...how old was Robben when he left?23 I think?
And how old is Drogba now?30.
There is HUGE difference between selling Drogba and selling Robben
Firstly ,their age.
Second, its much easier to find an excellent striker today and is much harder to find an excellent winger.

lollipop
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lollipop Wrote: | 06.11BST | Jun 15, 2008

SIMONT

I accept!! :)
Seems you and I are in the minority in wanting Didier to stay. Villa is a great player, no doubts there (plus i don't want to feel the wrath of Mr FIFTY!) but if i HAD to choose, Drogs would be my man every time. Look at the "Sheva effect" for an example in how it could MAYBE all backfire on us if we bought Villa. People are saying Didier's 30..so what?! He's still fast on his feet and agile, plus is a PROVEN goalscorer and threat to rival teams home AND abroad!
We MUST keep Drogs if he wants to stay..
Better the Devil you know...

fan of makelele called sarah
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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 06.19BST | Jun 15, 2008

call me an idiot, I want Drogba to stay, he is not a God ,but I want him to stay.Still , you can't compare his sale with Robben's sale.

lollipop
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lollipop Wrote: | 06.26BST | Jun 15, 2008

SARAH

He may not be a GOD..but a LEGEND? Hell, yeah!!!

fan of makelele called sarah
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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 06.30BST | Jun 15, 2008

Lollipop , I don't know ,I can't be objective about new legends at Chelsea, because I am still waiting for the new Zola...and he still isn't coming :(
Anyway, Drogba started training professionally when he was 19 .If he started earlier, he might be the best player ever...
What do you think of Kalou?Can he be good as Drogba ,better or worse?

SimonT
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SimonT Wrote: | 06.38BST | Jun 15, 2008

37. Fan of mackerel called Sarah

You like younger men, do you? So you think we should sell every footballer who is older than 30? And "its much easier to find an excellent striker today"? What the hell are you talking about? Drogba is irreplaceable in my views! And don't get so excited about getting new strikers in, it will take time for them to settle in Chelsea, if they can settle at all.

Scolari's priority now is to keep hold of our top players like Drog and Lamps.

lollipop
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lollipop Wrote: | 06.45BST | Jun 15, 2008

SARAH

Zola is one of my all time Chelsea faves along with Di Matteo and Kerry Dixon, now SuperFrank..
Zola scored something like 80(?) goals for us in the 7 years he was with us, Didier has been with us for 4 years and is already on 50plus goals, with a penchant for scoring anything between 15-20 goals per season, it's EASY to see why i consider him a legend already..IF he chooses to stay, he can only surpass himself and i for one seriously hope he is given that chance.

SimonT
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SimonT Wrote: | 06.46BST | Jun 15, 2008

@ 38.

Hey Lolli, get me to the church on time!... :-)

fan of makelele called sarah
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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 06.47BST | Jun 15, 2008

42. Simont
If we buy for example,Sergio Aguero who could develop, that would be good investment.
If we buy ,Inzaghi that would be awful.
Drogba gave his maximum.
If he stayes thats good.
If he leaves , I will be sad...it all depends of his replacement how sad I'll be.
But I don't think he is the best striker in the world.Far from that.And he is not irreplaceble.
We should learn that not any of players are better than the team.Thats why Mourinho and Roman's relationship was rocky> Mourinho was getting bigger than the team.
That can't happen again.
Every of our players should wear Chelsea badge with honour.
And , its indicating that Drogba ,simply, doesn't give a shit anymore.
The age matters.
I liked Drogba very much, when he was at Marseille, because I like Marseille and enjoy to watch French League (yeah, I know its weird...to me, most interesting after Premier League).I loved him when he came to Chelsea.
I will always.
Same thing with Lampard: I don't think he wants to stay in Chelsea anymore.

Blue True Blue Joe
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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 06.54BST | Jun 15, 2008

The story about Drogba is making things very complicated, Its very hard to believe. If he was staying for sure then wouldnt he have signed a contract extension that Peter Kenyon was "confident he would sign"? Next seasons front line is very difficult to predict. Pizarro will be gone thats for sure and I cant blame him either, Kalou will stay. Sheva should make the breakthrough that we have been waiting for next term. For anybody who might disagree lets look at the facts, Hes scored 8 goals in 24 appearences (most as a substitute) and at the end of the campaign he was doing well (I remember he had a great game against Aston Villa). I also think we owe him another chance because he wasnt given a chance last season and showed he had adapted to the league at times and never complained even though he was mostly used at the end of games. Like him or not hes a great proffesional unlike Drogba whos stuck in the "should I stay or should I go?" mind every few days. Anelka has been sheit for most of the season and doesnt seem to care at all but we are unlikely to get rid of him after splashing out £15m on him less than a year ago. I do think that Drogba said what he did because 1. JM told him he has enough strikers at Inter or 2. He is happy about Scolari. I think if Mourinho came in with an offer for him then he would go. Hell I remember after the final SSN were saying we put him up for transfer.
I would buy Villa but if Drogba stays then we will have to re-consider.

Lollipop, How can you call our Ukranian "Sick note Sheva" when he has played well when picked (At least in the second half of the season, The game against Aston Villa at least and nearly scored twice when he lost 1-0 to Le Arse) and despite being 3rd or 4th choice he never complained or said he wanted to move, And yet you love Drogba who has been saying all year that he wants to leave and doesnt like playing for us? Please explain

Blue True Blue Joe
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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 06.56BST | Jun 15, 2008

Why should we keep Drogba if he isnt 100% committed?

fan of makelele called sarah
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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 06.58BST | Jun 15, 2008

I think that Shevchenko deserves a chance until December.
If he doesn't work until then...
bye bye
Because, he played good this season.I also remember his match against Aston Villa, but he has awful luck and got injured.
If Grant picked him instead of fucking Anelka things would seem much more happy today.

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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 06.59BST | Jun 15, 2008

47. Blue True Blue Joe · 12:56 AM · 15th June
Thats the same thing I am asking myself.
He is not even 50 % commited.
Still, I would mind if he would stay, but we should bring another striker.

SimonT
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SimonT Wrote: | 07.03BST | Jun 15, 2008

@ 45. Fan of mackerel called Sarah

"its indicating that Drogba doesn't give a shit anymore"? You read the anti-Chelsea press too much, Sarah! You're brainwashed by them. I only judge him by footballing reasons and nothing else. I agree Drogba maybe not the best, but he's certainly one of the best!

Blue True Blue Joe
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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 07.05BST | Jun 15, 2008

Grant was brought in to help Sheva but he never gave him a chance, He put egos at the front of the line. Even when he wasnt playing for us, Shevchenko was scoring for Ukraine in the Euro qualifiers and friendlies. Not playing him was a big mistake especially when you consider that none of our strikers were in form at the end of the season, In the CL final on comes Kalou on comes Anelka (Who scored like 3 times in 20 appearences) and Sheva who must have been dying to get on wasnt used despite being a far more proven striker than Anelka. I feel really bad for the guy

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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 07.06BST | Jun 15, 2008

Simont
Maybe you are right...I read too much anti press...what can I say, people do hate Chelsea.
ANYWAY I think Drogba is not commited ENOUGH.He maybe gives a bit of shit, but he doesn't give enough
p.s. its not ''mackerel'' its Makelele man...DON'T tell me you don't know who that is :)

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lollipop Wrote: | 07.06BST | Jun 15, 2008

SARAH

Getting a "good replacement" wouldn't matter if whoever it turned out to be didn't perform when they got here!! Look at the examples;
Sheva-brill for AC Milan, arrived at Stamford Bridge and ever since prefers to spend his time playing anything BUT football..WHEN he does decide to play for us, he instantly gets injured and we don't see him again for months! Unless you visit the nearest golf course of course! Now, he's crying that he wants to go back to Milan. Well go then!! Shut the door behind you!

Anelka-can't work out for the life of me what's going on with him at the mo, wish he'd buck up though. Again, constantly scoring at Bolton, arrives at Stamford Bridge and puts in bad performances (when he's played to be fair to him, which isn't very often). Whether he's played regularly or not though, is NOT an excuse. Surely you don't forget how to score goals when that's your job week in, week out? Now he's saying he's "not at Chelsea to score goals", doesn't want to be classed as a "main striker" and prefers to play "in the position behind the striker"..baffling..

All i'm saying is be careful what you wish for..

SIMONT

I'm there already!! x

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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 07.07BST | Jun 15, 2008

Blue True Blue Joe
So fucking true man...
Anelka was an AWFUL transfer. I think Sidwell and Ben Haim are better transfers than Anelka. Actually, Sidwell was a good signing...he can be useful and doesn't care if he is playing or not...so...good signing.

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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 07.08BST | Jun 15, 2008

50 Simont, Can you give me some solid evidence that Drogba really does care?

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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 07.12BST | Jun 15, 2008

Lollipop
Shevcenko was not a good signing, but I still hope he will work out.The guy picked a wrong time to change his style of football,but ...maybe he will work out.
Anelka is very complicated person.Firstly, he truly doesn't give a shit.He was abnormal talent back in Arsenal, but he destroyed it with his idiotic behavior and constantly changing clubs.However, he rarely started from the 1. minute and rarely played on his position ...When he played on his position and as a striker...he scored 2 goals in 4 games.
Anelka was simply never too good for us.
BUT ...Villa...I think he could adapt at any STYLE.
We should do something...the days are passing,everybody are more active in the transfer window than we are...our rivals Tottenham,lIVERPOOL and Barcelona signed some attractive (well not Liverpool) names, while we are not doing anything and there is high possibility that all of our interests will be bought by some of the rival clubs (take Giovanni for instance)

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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 07.14BST | Jun 15, 2008

Lollipop, "WHEN he does decide to play for us, he instantly gets injured and we don’t see him again for months! Unless you visit the nearest golf course of course! Now, he’s crying that he wants to go back to Milan. Well go then!! Shut the door behind you!"

He cant choose to get injured, Im sure he was devastated and you could see that he wanted to prove himself against Aston Villa and thats the only game I can remember when he got a full 90 mins. Can you give me a link saying he wants to go back to Milan? No you cant because its not true. They want him back but hes said over and over that he wants to prove himself to people like you. He turned down the chance to go back at the begining of the season and couldve gone out on loan but he didnt even though he wasnt being given a chance.
What does that tell you? You can say that hes "Untouchable" or "RAs favorite player" and that may be true but im sure if he told Abramovich that he wanted to leave then he would be allowed to go. Please try and find something to back up what you are posting, When has he ever said he doesnt want to play or wants to move?

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SimonT Wrote: | 07.16BST | Jun 15, 2008

55. BTBJ

Come on, man! How many bloody important goals he has scored for Chlesea, if he did not care? Just don't believe in all these stories in anti-Chelsea press! They target our top players and try to drive them out of Chelsea!

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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 07.17BST | Jun 15, 2008

All signing Anelka did was ruin Kalou and Shevas chances, Like I said before AG put egos first. I remember the Barnsley game, Anelka had scored once in 4 appearences and Salomon Kalou (Who had 4 goals in his last 4 games) was left on the bench and didnt come on until the 80 something minute. All im hoping is that Scolari gives everyone a chance and doesnt keep players who dont want to be here

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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 07.20BST | Jun 15, 2008

58, No doubt he has scored alot of important goals for us but is his head here?
If he truly wants to stay then I would be happy for him to remain at Stamford Bridge

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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 07.23BST | Jun 15, 2008

I dont see how people like Lollipop can make excuses for Didier then act as if Shevchenko got injured on purpose. Drogba has been a key player for us yes and he is at the top of the mountain. But if hes not committed then we shouldnt try and keep him, If he is then great but I wont be convinced until he signs a new deal

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Habs Wrote: | 07.25BST | Jun 15, 2008

My last link may have been full of a few randomers, but this one is more accurate for the quality that Scolari could realistically attract:

LINK

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lollipop Wrote: | 07.28BST | Jun 15, 2008

BTBJ

It was written in almost every tabloid and on SSN months ago that he wanted to return to Milan..you obviously hold him in high regard and that's YOUR personal opinion of him, i respect that.. i'd expect a hell of a lot more for my money though, especially if it came to the tune of £30million.
As for being told he can leave but doesn't want to..what does that tell me you ask? It tells me that he enjoys sitting on his fat arse for £130,000 per week, that's what it tells me. He wouldn't get that anywhere else would he?! He IS Roman's blue eyed boy and there's obviously benefits for him being the favourite..
Sorry, JOE but i don't share your enthusiasm..
He's a waste of time. Get rid!!

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SimonT Wrote: | 07.28BST | Jun 15, 2008

@ 60. BTBJ

To be honest, as long as Drogba scores goals for Chelsea, whatever in his head, that's his business. He's human just like anybody else, we fans must first give him 100% support.

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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 07.29BST | Jun 15, 2008

The times = nuts, David Villa says he is made for the Premier League yet they say he would "rather stay in spain". Absolute nonsense

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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 07.32BST | Jun 15, 2008

63, What could he do if AG has guys ahead in the pecking order? Seriously he couldnt force Grant to play him. If you think he "enjoys" getting injured and watching his team lose on penalties and not being given a chance to play in the biggest game in european football then you are crazy

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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 07.34BST | Jun 15, 2008

SSN is full of crap at times, I remember them saying we offered £45m for Maicon

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lollipop Wrote: | 07.55BST | Jun 15, 2008

BTBJ

Yes, they are crap at times, as are the tabloids. We all know that. More often than not though, certain parts of the "exclusives" turn out to be true..There's no smoke without fire as such?
And ALL the tabloids were running stories of him wanting to return to Milan back in April. He was apparently upset on the phone to Burlusconi, saying he wasn't happy at Chelsea, hated London and was desperate to return to Milan. Whether or not that's true is anyone's guess. Only the people involved will know for definite.

You admire Sheva a lot, i can tell that. My Ma is the same as you and i had a disagreement with her about it earlier this evening to be truthful. I respect her opinion though as i do yours.

I don't rate him though but that's MY opinion and it won't change..

Please respect that and don't get shirty when people don't share your views..

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lollipop Wrote: | 08.01BST | Jun 15, 2008

ps..where did i say he enjoys getting injured???

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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 08.12BST | Jun 15, 2008

"It tells me that he enjoys sitting on his fat arse for £130,000 per week, that’s what it tells me. He wouldn’t get that anywhere else would he?! He IS Roman’s blue eyed boy and there’s obviously benefits for him being the favourite.."

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Blue True Blue Joe Wrote: | 08.15BST | Jun 15, 2008

Im not "shirty" about it and I respect your opinion.Tabloids are never 100% true but you dont see Shevchenko talking exclusively to a magazine saying he wants to leave. Can we just leave it there? I just feel sorry for him and think that alot of the criticism is harsh thats why I felt I needed to give my opinion

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lollipop Wrote: | 08.21BST | Jun 15, 2008

BTBJ

I think we should just agree to disagree..
Yes, PLEASE let's leave it there!! I don't come on here to fall out with people. We're all supposed to be part of the same "family"..

Apologies if i upset you x

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SimonT Wrote: | 10.18BST | Jun 15, 2008

I quite like Scolari's straight talking style in saying money was part of the reasons for accepting the manager job. It's the reality for anyone on Roman's payroll, so what? The English media tried to embarrass him but Scolari handled it brilliantly. It's just like the good old days with Jose and the bloody English press.

Bring it on!

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Aravind Wrote: | 15.09BST | Jun 15, 2008

"That hypocrisy that someone who's born here is a saint and someone born on the other side of the Atlantic is a devil, that doesn't exist. It's time to stop that clown show. I'm just like anybody else, I've got two legs, two arms and a head." - Scolari has a rant after English journalists quiz him about the England job.

Would love to hear more of those from Big Phil. I guess that's why some paper ran a story titled "If you think Mourinho is mad...wait till you meet Big Phil"

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MikeL Wrote: | 17.24BST | Jun 15, 2008

If Drog wants to go he can go as simple as that. He is going around and giving these embarrassing club interviews, by the way to the very respectable French football magazine. Then, he is getting himself sent off in the CL final, only because of his stupidity and nothing else. There must be border for this behavior.

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limetreebower Wrote: | 18.05BST | Jun 15, 2008

Let's play You Are The Sports Editor Of A Large-Circulation Paper!!

What do you do in the summer?

Okay, there's a pretty decent tournament going on, but unfortunately you know that only Guardian readers care about what a bunch of foreigners get up to.

Yes, there's county cricket... [fall out of chair laughing at the thought of the number of your readers who will be interested in the second day's play of Boghamptonshire vs. Crapshire at the Auld Mouldy Ground]

Let's face it: 90% of your readers go to the back pages because they want to read something about their team. But their team isn't playing!

Only one thing for it -- print any old crap, any old crap at all, about the "big four". Anything! AC Milan want Drogba? Then they must want Adebayor too, he's a big African centre-forward! New manager of Chelsea is Brazilian? He's going to bring Ronaldinho to Stamford Bridge! Barcelona had a poor year and have a new manager? Eto'o to Liverpool! No, Man U! No, Inter! Deco to Chelsea! Messi to Luton! Mourinho arrives at Inter? Lampard to Inter! Abramovich still has more money than everyone else? Eveyone to Chelsea! Maradona to Chelsea! Neeskens to Chelsea! Yashin to Chelsea! W.G. Grace to Chelsea! David Villa looks good, doesn't he? Villa to Villa [geddit???] No, Chelsea! No, Liverpool! No, Man U! No, Arsenal! Wait, Arsenal don't have any money do they? Fabregas to Real! Adebayor to Milan! Wait, we did that one yesterday? Then it's *confirmed*!! Exclusive Scoop!!! Is it late August yet???

It's all utter bollocks.

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Austin Solari Wrote: | 18.13BST | Jun 15, 2008

To be honest, I cannot recall ONE player at this moment who has signed for us and been a success straight away?? Riccy, Drogs, Essien, A.Cole, Ze German .......... all these took time to adjust and yet look at them now.
We seem unable to buy a player who slots straight in (as, unfortunately Torres did at Poo) and makes a go off it from the start.
As I had the audacity to have a weeks holiday last week and still catching up, I have seen no comments on the reports we are bidding for Torres??

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Jang Wrote: | 18.13BST | Jun 15, 2008

Boulahrouz now is definately worth the amount we bought him for 2 years back. I guess he cant be counted as a flop in terms of money if we sell him for at least 7 million pounds.

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Jang Wrote: | 18.18BST | Jun 15, 2008

Its rubbish. Pool will never sell Torres to us. Who is that stupid to increase the power of their main rivals? And i do fancy Drogba's chances of staying, depending on what kind of system Scolari wants to implement next season at Chelsea. Right now he's playing this 4-2-3-1 system with 2 defensive midfielders to shield the back 4. Put it into the context of Chelsea, we should see something like this:

Cech

Bosingwa Carvalho Terry A.Cole

Essien Ballack/Mikel

J.Cole Lampard Malouda or A NEW WINGER

Drogba/Anelka

As you can see, who else other than Dider is the best man to work the lone role? =)

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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 18.49BST | Jun 15, 2008

75. MikeL
I agree with you. If he wants to go, he can go.
We are too slow in the transfer window.Everybody are buying players, only Chelsea are not doing anything.

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SimonT Wrote: | 19.23BST | Jun 15, 2008

@ Mike, MikeL and Sarah

If Drogba wants to leave Chelsea, I wish him all the best! For now, please show some appreciation for this great footballer, and leave him alone!

SimonT
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SimonT Wrote: | 19.33BST | Jun 15, 2008

This article has a good insight in Scolari's career, I liked what I read...

LINK

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BLUEBOYDAVE Wrote: | 19.42BST | Jun 15, 2008

On the vexed question of what's going on in Drogba's head - and does it matter - weren't most of the recent quotes in French magazine actually lifted from his long-since published here autobiography, where admittedly he said he wanted to leave from the day he first arrived but then changed his mind back and forth with dizzying regularity.

Looking at the new quote SSN were touting yesterday it doesn't seem like any ringing endorsement of his love of Chelsea and desire to stay [compare to Essien's recent unambiguous statement for a good example].

All Drogs says is he has a contract with Chelsea till 2010 and he's pleased that his friend Jose who he considers a top coach has got a new job.

Call me an old cynic but that doesn't sound like much more than he's keen to remind everyone he's never formally asked for a transfer to preserve his right to a juicy cut of any transfer fee and that Jose hasn't yet shown any interest.

I have huge admiration for what Drogba has done for us in recent years but have to admit he had a poor season by his standards when he seemed to struggle to recover from the disappointment of losing ACN and there were worrying signs that his battering-ram style might be starting to wear out his body.

If he needs to move on to reinvigorate his game and Big Phil wants to try someone new upfront then so be it.

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cap123 Wrote: | 20.01BST | Jun 15, 2008

-cech-

-bosingwa-carvalho-terry-cole-

-essien-ballack-

-quarsema-joe cole-

-drogba-villa

i think the fact that the left side and the right side are all each the same nationality playing in the same positions that they play for their countries could be pretty good (carvalho, boswingwa, quaresma // terry, cole, cole). They should begin to know each other inside out.

if drogba goes despite his latest interview, i don't want to have to use sheva or anelka (or kalou as first team!), i'd like to buy a fast striker in the vein of eto'o, to replicate villa's spain partnership with torres.

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Tommyblue Wrote: | 20.26BST | Jun 15, 2008

For what it's worth .... I think Drogba is a great player - but a rotten personality. I'm happy to put up with his bullshit if he plays well - but if he plays like he did last season and sounds off like a spoilt child then get rid of him. He did us more harm than good last season.Anelka is'nt much better - bloody dead loss - not AG's finest choice. Actually sheva given half a chance could still prove to be worthwhile.
Should be an interesting season - Scolari - we shall seen - has all the right brand signs - but..... dunno..... he makes me feel uncomfortable - but there again what do I know - I thought AG was quite cute ....... LOL!!!!!!

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SimonT Wrote: | 21.03BST | Jun 15, 2008

@ Tommyblue

Please refer to comment 81.

You sounded like a bored housewife treating football like a Big Brother show.

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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 21.04BST | Jun 15, 2008

81. SimonT
I wish him all the best if he leaves and if he stays.
I will leave your hero alone
After I just say...that I agree with TOMMYBLUE ,except that I thing we should give another try on Drogba.

SimonT
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SimonT Wrote: | 21.10BST | Jun 15, 2008

87. Sarah (Not fan of mackerel)

Thank you! :-)

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Lynn Wrote: | 21.14BST | Jun 15, 2008

I know that everyone is getting caught up in playing fantasy football on who we could or should sign.But does anyone really think we have a chance of signing Torres,Villa,Kaka etc.The European Championship isn't doing us any favours and I must admit the silence surrounding Scolari's appointment was to our advantage.I just get the strange feeling that our new signings will be unexpected and not to everyone's liking.
Hope I'm wrong.

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lollipop Wrote: | 21.21BST | Jun 15, 2008

does anyone really think we have a chance of signing Torres,Villa,Kaka etc

@ LYNN

One word..NO!!!

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Lynn Wrote: | 21.25BST | Jun 15, 2008

@LOLLIPOP

We'll probably end up with more players reaching the end of their careers like Deco and Ronaldinho.Really hope we buy with the future in mind and not just next season.

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SimonT Wrote: | 21.30BST | Jun 15, 2008

@ Lynn

There're always some unknown quality players that we don't know of. Maybe Chelsea would sign some Russian, Chinese or Korean players, just to market the 'Chelsea' brand in Asia.

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Lynn Wrote: | 21.43BST | Jun 15, 2008

@SIMON T

I may be wrong but I don't think that Roman will be wanting to experiment too much next season buy signing unknown players,he's brought Scolari in for immediate improvement and I can't see him being too happy to finish behind Manure again.You can be sure that they will strengthen again if Ronaldo goes or not and they will go for players able to step into the first team virtually straight away.
I agree that we should be looking out for undiscovered talent but Arnesesn has supposed to have been doing that for a few years now without too much success.
I just really hope we go for players on the way up and not on the way down.

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lollipop Wrote: | 21.43BST | Jun 15, 2008

LYNN

So hope Deco doesn't arrive at Stamford Bridge!!!

It'll be interesting to see who (if any) new players arrive. We haven't really heard anything concrete, just rumours..and as a couple of people here have said, Chelsea SEEM to be taking their time on the transfer market. Maybe the team will stay as it is? Who knows? Would be very suprised at that though..

Villa has been quoted in the press today saying that he wants to play for Liverpool. I'm not entirely suprised at that to be honest, seeing as Torres is there. They are obviously great friends and have a fantastic working partnership that's setting the Euro's alight at the moment. Could see him playing at Arsenal too, or another Spanish team. Just don't picture him at Chelsea at all. I've tried to visualise all these players in Blue shirts that people mention on their lists of "wants" and the only one i COULD imagine is Van der Vaart, no one else.

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lollipop Wrote: | 21.48BST | Jun 15, 2008

P.s don't know how reliable the site is but just read on "caught offside .com" that Quaresma has said; "I have already signed for a big club but can say no more at the moment"..Liverpool fans are hoping it's them but that's not likely considering the debt they're in! They can probably only afford to buy one player this season! Speculation on the site, however is that it's Real Madrid..

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Lynn Wrote: | 21.51BST | Jun 15, 2008

@LOLLIPOP

Deco is a very good player but time is against him and if I had to chose between him and Frank,there can be only one winner.
Frank may not be as "creative"as Deco but he has proved time and time again that without him,we would have struggled to score as many goals.
Scolari's first priority is to make sure Frank signs a new contract,for once let's look after our players first and then worry about what new players we sign.

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lollipop Wrote: | 21.54BST | Jun 15, 2008

@ LYNN

I'm totally with you on the subject of Frank. BY MILES, he's one of our best players. Don't try to fix something that ain't broken..

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Tommyblue Wrote: | 22.03BST | Jun 15, 2008

@ SimonT Lol LOl!!! I wish I was a bored housewife - chance would be a fine thing, and i have never watched Big Brother in my life.

Sorry simon just cos you say so I don't have to.........

for me a great player isn't just skill but guts, personality and honor - maybe old fashioned - but I am old!!! and Drogba doesn't have all of that mix. But credit where credit is due - he has had moments of pure genius, so not completly dissing him - just won't cry if he is let go.

Having said that i am off to watch desperate houswives........

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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 23.11BST | Jun 15, 2008

You know...
We had so many awful transfers in last couple of years...
Pizzaro -No comment.
Malouda-Just look at his games in FRANCE shirt and in CHELSEA shirt.Two different worlds.
Ben Haim-Comedy.
Shevchenko-Blah...30 million pounds...is a lot.
Boulahrouz-Now I am getting nervous...
IF we buy Deco and Ronaldinho that would be the worst transfer ever.I don't know for Ronaldinho, but for Deco- I am 94 % sure.

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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 23.13BST | Jun 15, 2008

95. lollipop
Real Madrid do not need a winger. They have Robinho and will probably buy Cristiano Ronaldo...AND they have Robben.tHEY certanly don't need a winger, so I think Quaresma is about to sign for Chelsea, what is , in my opinion awful.

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Lynn Wrote: | 23.45BST | Jun 15, 2008

@ FAN OF MAKELELE CALLED SARAH

I think a lot of the rumours are that Quaresma's going to join Jose at Inter.
If Scolari rated him that highly he probably would have played him by now,unless he didn't want to get him injured of course.

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Jang Wrote: | 00.03BST | Jun 16, 2008

I think Quaresma's effectiveness is pretty inconsistant. Like J.Cole in the latter stages of last season. When he is on song, he is damn bloody brilliant. But when the going gets tough, he fades away eventually. Thats my main concern on signing Quaresma. He has all the tricks in the bag with something that Joe lacks - Pace. But his level of consistancy to beat players or put a proper cross into the box remains to be seen. And thats for Scolari to get the best out of Harry Potter(Porto fans gave him this nickname).

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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 00.47BST | Jun 16, 2008

I am telling ya...Quaresma is overrated and average player.
He has speed and dribbling ,which 90 % of Portuguese player have.
C'mon guys...we could get someone better!
For example,RIBERY or ROBINHO
Quaresma is for clubs such as Tottenham (no offence...but I think they will be dangerous next season),Everton etc...not for The Big Four clubs.

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Cashif Wrote: | 01.13BST | Jun 16, 2008

Stick Beletti on the right wing. He'll put decent ball into box.

On Joe Cole's 'inconsistancy' - does anyone think it might have been fatigue near the end that took it's toll.

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Andrei Wrote: | 01.14BST | Jun 16, 2008

LINK - I thought that this was an interesting read from the times about RC and the reason he wanted to leave before.

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Chaka Wrote: | 02.27BST | Jun 16, 2008

What are this managers thinking?Is Chelsea now turning to a club for pensioners?Why do we like going for players that are near their retirement age?Why go for Deco and Ronaldiho,who are near their retirement age,when we have a solid mid-field formation in Mikel,Essien,Ballack,and Lampard?Where do we place Deco and Ronaldiho when they come?Are we going to sacrifice the raw talent of Mikel for Deco just as Grant foolishly sacrifice the raw talent of Kalou for Anelka?Roman has to say something cause Chelsea is slowly becoming real Madrid who has all the big names yet cannot win anything.

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Tommyblue Wrote: | 03.10BST | Jun 16, 2008

@andre - I am not surprised at the RC's comments. Sources at Chelsea ( God that sounds pompous - it's just that my husband is a exec driver who also works for chelsea and some of the back coaching team chat to him) say that most of the players were furious with AG's sacking and felt that it was not a good move for the team - but that same person also said back in March that AG was to go regardless of winning or not CL - he didn't fit into brand Chelsea. No doubt that Scolari has all the charisma, credentials and bloody mindedness that the press love and Chelsea need to be who they want to be. Only time will tell if the brand provides good football and silverware. Certainly won't be boring!!!!!

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BIGMark Wrote: | 03.37BST | Jun 16, 2008

We have to face the fact that Petr Cech is no longer the Worlds No 1

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Lynn Wrote: | 03.41BST | Jun 16, 2008

I'm afraid these mistakes are happening more frequently,perhaps we need a new goalkeeping coach at the Bridge.

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Tony Glover Wrote: | 03.49BST | Jun 16, 2008

I'm afraid that howler just about sums up Cechs season for us. Error strewn in comparison to his first few seasons.....I wonder if the head injury has had a bigger effect that first thought? Or maybe it is Lollichon - it does seem that since Lollichon took the reigns that Pete has definitely been more susceptible and has reverted to a long ball hoof clearance mentality.

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SimonT Wrote: | 04.05BST | Jun 16, 2008

107. TommyBlur

"most of the players were furious with AG’s sacking"...LOL! You're a comedian!

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fan of makelele called sarah Wrote: | 04.18BST | Jun 16, 2008

I WAS furious with AG sacking!
hE WAS excellent the first year!
Players were furious because they will never adapt to a manager if we continue like this!

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Habs Wrote: | 04.31BST | Jun 16, 2008

Christophe Lollichon fucked up Cech. It's not the head injury because after Reading, Cech came back to win us the FA Cup Final and the League Cup Final with some blinding saves against Baptista and Rooney. But after Silvino left and Avram brought in Lollichon, Cech is vulnerable at crosses. He used to be immense with the high ball, i remember seeing him save JT's back header in the last minute of the FA Cup semi-final against Blackburn at Old Trafford. Now he seems undecided with crosses. It's time for Scolari to bring in some new coaches. Keep Clarkey, promote Brendan Rodgers and bring in some new fitness coaches and a GK coach.

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Jang Wrote: | 04.37BST | Jun 16, 2008

Cech cant be a Barthez or Dudek overnight. The only logical and possible explaination is the coach!

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SimonT Wrote: | 04.56BST | Jun 16, 2008

112. Fan of Toad called Sarah

TommyBlur will welcome you to her comedy club!

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Cashif Wrote: | 05.44BST | Jun 16, 2008

It wasn't all that surprising really, what with that Babel shot slipping through his gloves in the CL semis...

The thing is, if he was going through a really bad time personally for Rennes under the same coach, why did he recommend him?

Whatever the reason, I hope Scolari brings in someone of his own to deal with our keepers.

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Jang Wrote: | 06.38BST | Jun 16, 2008

Its funny that Cech makes all the difficult saves look easy and yet make the easy ones look complicated at times. But i guess thats what seperates him from the rest of the keepers in the world. His reflexes and shot stopping ability is still 2nd to none. Form is temporary and class is PERMANENT. I hope it applies to Cech because he's making the fundamental errors while producing regular superb saves against the top marksman in football. Ironic...

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Greenlight Wrote: | 07.12BST | Jun 16, 2008

Bad news, guys....

I read somewhere (can't remember where) that Lollichon is going to be retained as goalkeeping coach in the new Scolari regime. The connection is that Cech worked with him before he came to Chelsea, and apparently recommended him to Grant when Jose's boys left.

His current form is seriously bad. As a shot stopper he is wonderful, but his inability to claim a cross is really worrying, and he appears flustered under pressure. Let's not mention his ability in Penalty Shoot-outs either!

Don't want to be too hard on him, cos on his day he is superb, but a kick up the arse is most definately required.

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Nick Benfield Wrote: | 09.49BST | Jun 16, 2008

Gianluigi Buffon and even Artur Boruc are better than Cech on the evidence I've seen. Cech's still considerably better than most keepers though.

I just had a little wager on Italy to win the tournament at 20/1. Blame it on fatigue (it's nearly 4 a.m. here).

Aravind
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Aravind Wrote: | 12.20BST | Jun 16, 2008

Nice article Andrei

Blue PeterThe Great
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Blue PeterThe Great Wrote: | 12.25BST | Jun 16, 2008

Morning/Afternoon depending on where you are in the world...

Cech is a worry but he has had some injuries to contend with this season and I believe that has taken the edge of his game. Every player goes through dodgy periods but he will benefit from a good rest like the rest of the squad. However my tip for GK coach role is Cudicini who can also play as his number 2. His football brain between the big sticks and knowledge of the game in all competitions plus the respect he should have in the club would make him the ideal choice and give a new motivation to stay. Cudicini certainly knows how to distribute the ball and despite his height is pretty good at commanding the goal square. Cech can still learn a lot from Carlo...

KTBFFH

Greenlight
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Greenlight Wrote: | 12.38BST | Jun 16, 2008

Peter the Great....

Sorry Peter, much as I would like to see Cudacini stay in some capacity, I cannot see Petr Cech taking goalkeeping lessons from a bloke that was his understudy 5 minutes before. I can't see that working out well. Agree with you about the distribution though, he is far better.

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Greenlight Wrote: | 12.46BST | Jun 16, 2008

It is interesting to note that JT has recently been accused of being made to look good by Riccy..... Equally interesting to see that the press are slagging off Willie Gallas, saying that France (and Arsenal) look suspect at the back with him at centre half.

Gallas looked much more sound at Chelsea when paired with either RC or JT, so perhaps Jose was right to play him at Right Back for most of his time at Chelsea.

Andrei....... Funny how most of the papers reported that Ricky article as suggesting he was upset with the club. The Times article left me with a totally different impression of his comments, and saying how pleased he is to be having Scolari arrive.

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Lordmorf Wrote: | 13.44BST | Jun 16, 2008

Watched the Argentina v Ecuador game last night - first time I've really seen Aguerro who seems to be linked to Chelsea a lot on this site. He was AWFUL. Looks a bit like Kaka but sure doesn't play like him! I think he would struggle in the Premiership on the basis of what he did in that game.

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Lynn Wrote: | 13.53BST | Jun 16, 2008

This is from todays newspapers.

"Chelsea target David Villa insists he wants to stay in Spain.

The Valencia forward, the four-goal star of Euro 2008, is locked in a three-way £25million battle between Chelsea, Real Madrid and Barcelona.

But Villa, 26, has warned cash is not his motivation: "Money means nothing. Of course everybody works to earn money, but if you are not happy then material things mean nothing. My only target in life is to get better at my job."

The Spain striker's value has risen dramatically during a hugely impressive Euro 2008 campaign, and Chelsea are ready to make him the highest paid player in the Premier League.

Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich has been trailing Villa for months and the Londoners are still interested in him after the arrival of new boss Luiz Felipe Scolari, who quits Portugal to take charge at Stamford Bridge on July 1.

Villa - whose injury time winner against Sweden put Spain into the quarter finals - has made it clear to his advisers that he would rather join Real Madrid or Barcelona than move to the Premier League.

Valencia, who have put Villa up for sale along with their other Spanish star David Silva, have also told the striker that he can decide his destination as long as that club meets their asking price

Chelsea have the spending power to clinch the deal but Villa is waiting on Barcelona and Real Madrid. Barcelona have to sell before they can buy but if they offload both Ronaldinho and Samuel Eto'o then they will want two strikers.

Real Madrid also want him even though they are pursuing Manchester United's Cristiano Ronaldo.

It leaves Chelsea facing disappointment over Villa and they are already looking elsewhere as they fear the Spanish hitman will snub a move to England"

Not really much of a shock,it's a myth that Roman's money can buy anyone and I think a few more players will make the same choice as Villa.
I think Big Phil's going to have his work cut out when trying to strengthen our squad.Unless you're name is Deco or Ronaldinho that is.

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Lynn Wrote: | 14.06BST | Jun 16, 2008

This was Aguero's rating for last nights game.

Sergio Aguero: 4 - Wasted a couple of good opportunities to find the back of the net. Failed to make an impact and looked selfish at times.

Sounds like he would fit in at The Bridge.

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Fifty Wrote: | 14.36BST | Jun 16, 2008

I think even last summer and throughout the past (very poor) domestic campaign Valencia had, it was obvious Villa would prefer to stay in Spain. Fingers crossed we're still in with a chance, and it is just the papers talking, but I think we need to be looking elsewhere for strikers rather than just the one target.

Glad Cech's getting the howlers out of the way early, so he'll be more consistent next season.

Nick, on your point of rather crazy bets, I have stuck a few quid on the French. Not actually sure why though.

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lollipop Wrote: | 14.37BST | Jun 16, 2008

@ LYNN

That statement about Villa is exactly what i suspected. As i said yesterday, i just don't picture him at Chelsea, no matter how hard i try to. CAN picture him at Real Madrid or Barca though.

@ TOMMYBLUE

There may be some truth in the players being upset at AG's sacking but that's not to say he was popular..perhaps they're just sick to death of all the Manager's that are coming and going and not stopping along the way!!!
If, as you say, Avram was going to get the heave-ho whether he won the Champs or not, why did CFC give him a 4 year contract?? I believe he was in for the long haul but things backfired when we crashed out of the first 2 Cup competitions..To save face, PK quickly got rid of him and tried to convince everyone that it was never a permanent appointment. 4 years at £4million? Sounds pretty permanent to me!!

Felt really sorry for Petr last night. He blames himself for the team losing and rightly so but he's still a great Goalie..the best IMO..

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SimonT Wrote: | 15.51BST | Jun 16, 2008

@ Lollipop

I'd love to have Kaka (the World Player of the Year) at Chelsea, he's so bloody good looking! Chelsea will sell million shirts! ManU's ugly Rio (the Duck of the Year) should not be allowed to play in PL, he just scares the kids away! :-)

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Fifty Wrote: | 16.12BST | Jun 16, 2008

LINK

Next seasons fixtures.

The last 3 games aren't particularly great.....

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Jonathan Dyer Wrote: | 16.45BST | Jun 16, 2008

Felt sorry for Petr - not a good way to end the season, but clangers made by goalkeepers are always more noticeable, especially when they're made by one of the best.

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Lynn Wrote: | 16.50BST | Jun 16, 2008

Manure have Hull at home last game of the season,what a shock!!!!!!!!

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BLUEBOYDAVE Wrote: | 18.44BST | Jun 16, 2008

Hard to judge causes of Petr's lapses - poorer coaching or dips in concentration as a result of the multiple head injuries. He still has an impressive scar from Ben Haim's butchery.

If it's the former I see Kevin Hitchcock does not seem to have followed Sparky to Man City - nor indeed has Eddie Niedzwiecki, though he appears to be a general coach these days.

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Jonathan Dyer Wrote: | 18.50BST | Jun 16, 2008

Seems to be a lot of uncertainly around Christophe Lollichon (?) as GK coach; not sure when he started with us but it might explain the 'dip' in form (but let's not forget Cech saved us on numerous occasions last season). Couple that with the hideous injuries and it isn't surprising he's suffering at present.

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Peter Wrote: | 18.54BST | Jun 16, 2008

On another subject, it still beats me how anybody can criticise a man who clearly loves our club with a passion.

LINK

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Nick Benfield Wrote: | 19.57BST | Jun 16, 2008

Inter have declared their interest in Lampard:

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I have a horrible feeling he will decide to join Jose in Milan.

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mike Wrote: | 20.56BST | Jun 16, 2008

hey guys, time for a new post. This one just kinda died...

Lordmorf
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Lordmorf Wrote: | 21.01BST | Jun 16, 2008

Hope not Nick - with these potential new FIFA regulations about home grown players, the last thing we need is to be losing top class English players and replacing them with overseas players (unless Kaka or Messi fancy joining us of course!).

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Fifty Wrote: | 21.21BST | Jun 16, 2008

Nick,

I agree. I can see him going. He knows it's now or never for the last change in scenery. It looks like Capello knows what he wants from the England side and Lamps doesn't fit in from the start.

If he goes, it'll be with nothing but my best wishes.

But, for the love of God, not Deco to replace him. Please.

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Nick Benfield Wrote: | 21.37BST | Jun 16, 2008

Fifty,

Bad news - Deco's confirmed that we're looking to sign him:

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Deco: 45 goals in nine years for Porto and Barca.
Lampard: 110 goals for Chelsea since 2001.

Good news - apparently Scolari is a big fan of Lampard.

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mike Wrote: | 21.40BST | Jun 16, 2008

fifty

What of van der vaart?if lamps did leave(please god no!) would you( attempt) to replace him with vdvaart?or someone else perhaps?

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mike Wrote: | 21.51BST | Jun 16, 2008 <