Wednesday, 26 March 08, 10:14 AM · Comments (153)
The earth did not move on Sunday, but Avram Grant slept a little easier that night. The sight of the man who’s patented the hangdog expression donning a faint but clear smile at the post-match circuit must be a welcome relief to everyone at Stamford Bridge. From a close shave with self-combustion to self-satisfaction in ninety minutes, Grant could be forgiven for thinking every monkey has scampered off his hunched back. Since his banishment to the doghouse, Easter Sunday was the day he possibly began to feel that a dead chicken may yet still get the chance to eat some sweet corn. Sure, he must have resurrected something in the minds of not a few doubting Thomases with that defeat of Arsenal.
Okay, it’s just one game, but it is one game and one stone that killed several scary birds. With this victory, Grant answered some of our questions - not all, but some big ones. We said he couldn’t win the big games; he has now won against a title-chasing Arsenal side at the Bridge and is still keeping our undefeated home record going. We said he couldn’t make substitutions that turn games; he did with the introduction of Nicolas Anelka and Juliano Belletti. Okay, the goals were scored by the Arsenal-defying Didier Drogba who put in another Man of the Match performance and who, if reports are to be believed, cannot exactly be tagged a great fan of Grant the manager. But even that shouldn’t take away much from Grant’s moment.
Since cynicism rightfully installed itself in the minds of most fans with his appointment as manager, every kind of reason has been given for our apparently surprising good performances, but none has ever been adduced to Grant’s managerial ability. Popular wisdom has been that the team perform well when they do in spite of the man, not because of him. On the other hand, the gaping holes in his CV and his questionable personality have been assiduously and overwhelmingly championed as causes of our failures. We therefore shouldn’t be surprised to hear people say this is a case of Drogba raising his game to prove he’s earned his right to criticize the coach or that this is the result of him kicking up Chelsea’s backsides after a series of lacklustre displays and substitutions that had him moaning at the bench more than most. Perhaps we’ll still hear some claim that this is simply underlying his currency to summer suitors, having reportedly made up his mind to leave Chelsea as part of the messy post-Mourinho fallout or, in relation to the whole, it could yet be interpreted as the old Mourinho team just playing from memory and desperately adopting a self-help approach to redeem their reputation, having realized that Grant cannot lift them. Whatever the truth though, one thing I know is that we can’t have it both ways. If Grant is not good enough when we’re losing the big games or embarrassingly drawing easily winnable ones, he must be good enough if we suddenly begin winning the big ones, like the one against Arsenal at the Bridge. Yes, this is just one big game and a few more are due to come, but it’s only fair that the man be given credit for a good Chelsea performance as we give him stick for bad ones. Indeed, the importance of this win cannot be over-emphasized. Apart from going a long way to exorcize the ghost of Mourinho and his uncanny ability to deliver in most big games (as opposed to the timid Grant), something stirred in the heart of all true Chelsea fans on Sunday at the final whistle. Of course, no one sang Grant’s praises to high heavens, but some of us who fear we’re back to the days of being glorious losers are actually beginning to think the unthinkable, which is that we may actually stumble upon some silverware this season after all! The fact that we are second in the league, five points behind Manchester United and with no team in-between us means we have been put in a great position to chase them down the finishing line. This victory underlines our resilience and may just have reminded the rest of the Premier League why they used to fear us. The multiplier effect of such confident display in our preparation for the continuation of our Champions League campaign cannot be overlooked as well. So here’s the news - some of us in great doubt are about to start believing again, albeit on the strength of one game. However, this is one huge game! I personally have no qualms hosting a feast of freshly-baked humble pies if we win either of the two trophies now still available. Whatever happens with Grant, whether he stays or goes, is of lesser importance to me than us winning silverware; but if we win it, I’d be ready to wave him goodbye with grudging respect or look forward to his further reign with less trepidation. Yes, if winning any silverware this season will solidify the position of the unpopular Grant, I can live with that and even learn to love him! But if from this point, we still go on to end the season empty-handed, Roman Abramovich must be forced to deliver his head on a platter. It’s a harsh world at Chelsea nowadays and I suppose the Czar of Stamford Bridge will have it no other way. But, for today, Grant must be granted his due. In fact, I think at this stage, he’s earned the right to be supported till the end of the season by every true Blue. Those supporters openly ridiculing him must now back off. He and the team need us solidly behind them to catch Manchester United and get our trophy back. They need us with them to push farther than before in Europe. We must decide what we want and what price to pay and right now I’d think easing off on Grant in exchange for some silverware (or the real possibility of it) is small price to pay for the rest of the season. It’s not yet Avramania up my alley, but stranger things have happened in football.
The aptly named 'Bog'.
It's been nearly a month since an outsider last posted drivel about Roman leaving, so nice to see originality still exists wherever you are.
No matter how many times anti-Chelsea posters say it, it's just not going to happen.
It's soooooo boring to read and hear about, there's nothing more to say.
Any reason your post ommited other priceless Chelsea cliches like 'Bought the league', 'destroyed football' etc.
I think grant has to be given time - he is learning - he adopted lots of players and he had to undo all the restrictions JM put on the players. I started saying this from the beginning but i too lost the way and jumped on the grant must go band wagon.
If he keeps this going till the end of the season then i too will learn to love the jowly hound.
Maybe he made subs in the past thinking some players were made of sterner stuff but ended up humiliated by the lack of impact.
If we lose the title i dont care - if we finish close then hats off to him - ars was a loss due to cech not grant and man u was a loss because of the ref sending mikel off and mourinho leaving 3 days before and not grant!!
Champs league is going to be the test - can he get them chomping at the bit - can he make the right changes. I would even take a loss in the final and be happy as it would instill confidence for next year when he gets his players in who are more technically gifted.
I dont think we can say one way or the other at the moment - we need to see if he gets us results between now and the end of the season and if we beat man u at home. to lose the league by 2 points would be great - to win by any margin a miracle!
Only fair on a Chelsea site to start by saying I'm a Spurs fan. (so read no further if you like).
I quite liked this article's defence of Grant but it missed something. While it is easy for fans to imagine Jose would have won the lot, this would surely make him better by his absense and judge Grant unfairly.
Grant is not confronted with the ManU of two years ago - when Jose last won the league. He is confronted by the ManU of today, which is a far superior side. Likewise Grant doesn't face the Arsenal of two seasons ago - but the much improved Arsenal of today.
And even in our less title challenging way - The Spurs that won at Wembley was better than the Spurs that won over Jose's Blues at WHL a year before.
Chelsea have improved too - but they have gone from having by far the best organised and biggest pool of talent two yeas ago - to having among a number of well organised pools of great talent.
So perhaps Grant needs time to help Chelsea make that adjustment.
Even a blind hen will occasionally peck a grain of corn.
I'm erring on the side of caution; there's more evidence against than for. And there's always a crash following a high like Sunday's.
That's not to say I won't support Grant for the remainder of the season. But the prospect of him being given another season to see if he's got what it takes fills me with dread.
If Grant outfoxes Ferguson I'll eat a large slice of Kenn's humble pie.
I fully respect the good intention behind this article, but..
I shall refer to a report from the Times yesterday:
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Lampard was rather less forthcoming when asked to lavish praise on Grant, refusing to condemn the supporters who barracked the Chelsea first-team coach with shouts of “You don't know what you're doing†as he made his substitutions. Michael Ballack, the midfield player who was replaced with his side trailing 1-0 with 20 minutes remaining, appeared to share those fans' disgust, storming down the tunnel and refusing to shake Grant's hand after being withdrawn.
“The fans are emotional, so they call it as they see it,†Lampard said, “... Listen, the fans are behind the team and behind the group and they want to be successful and they want to win games, so I just think we shouldn't make a big deal out of it.â€
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Until that day when the manager has the full support and respect from our players, this manager of Chelsea will not gain any respect from me; but that dose not diminish my whole-hearted support for Chelsea (as Lampard pointed out in the interview).
@ SIMONT
I can sense something from Lamp's comments. Maybe its his contract and knows that Van Der Vaart is right behind him. Im speculating..
@Ken
Linking every Lamps' comment to his contract talk would be very unfair to his personal character.
Simon, are you Chelsea supporter? I had an impression you are a JM’s supporter only o :)
Jiko, I can say... I LOVE JOSE MOURINHO. :-)
Can you say... I LOVE ARVAM GRANT? I'm still waiting, you know! :-)
Good man Simon,but the fact that you love some guy, does not mean anyone else loves some other guy as well :). That is way you could have a problem though, the “love is blind†as they say, so here is the difference - I could give a respect where is dew, does not matter what the guy name and is not affected by love feelings :)
Back on the subject. Is anyone else got the feeling that AG’s substitutions are better if the team is behind, if he has to “close the shop†then is a problem?
@JIKO
I think its more direct if the team is chasing the game. We need more attackers on the pitch whereas if we are to defend what we have, he has to decide whether to choke the midfield or use more defenders etc. More things to consider.
In the main part, Grant's substitutions tend to be like for like which is why Sunday was a refreshing change; he wouldn't have been at all popular had we lost the home record, but in the changes he made at least there was an attempt to do something about it (if we're being harsh, you'd say that he had to do something fairly dramatic as his head was very much on the block with 20 minutes to go).
The ability to shut out games is important; it may not fit with the attacking football desired by Roman and co., but it is a very important aspect of the game to know when to close down and protect what you have. That doesn't have to come through substitutions - if you can find David Moyes's comments after we beat Everton at Goodison last season when Drogba scored from miles out with a few minutes left, they are worth a read; he praised our ability to turn defence into attack and vice versa and that he basically couldn't keep up with the tactical switches we were making.
>Dannymackay
Thanks for your analysis and your comments, some of us are trying to tell our own fans the same things you are saying...
>JD
In the spurs match, would you say ballack for JC or Alex for Kalou was like for like?
If AG had lost the match some of you would have slated him again for removing JC or ballack (whom it must be said had better impact on the game than lampard). Its clearly a case of the end justifies the means for most bloggers here, cos the same JC was subbed in the match against spurs when we had a lead to protect compared to sunday when we were a goal down, yet AG was hammered for it
>Kenn
Thanks for a wonderful and refreshing article, a deviation of sort from the recent tone on this blog...
>Jiko
maybe you should leave Simont alone cos he seems to be one of those kinda guys who only see 'black' or 'white'(and 'for or 'against')....nothing like 'gray' where they are concerned...
Always Blue!
...cos the same JC was subbed in the match against spurs when we had a lead to protect compared to sunday when we were a goal down, yet AG was hammered for it...
Unless I am missing something JC was subbed out in both matches when we were up by a goal!
In the first match he was the best player on the pitch for us and had scored two, in the second match Drogs was that player having scored two. So, if he'd taken out Drogs would have been similar to having taken JC out against Spuds!!!!
Well said Ken, a bit of balance. Of course one swallow doesn't make a summer (although it can be a pleasant interlude), so I don't want to get too carried away with the Arsenal result, but we can't have it both ways. It's not fair to say when we lose it's entirely Grants fault and when we win it's nothing to do with him and solely due to the Mourinho legacy.
It would be like Gordon Brown taking full credit for a booming economy and, when the economy goes tits up, claiming it's due to global events and nothing to do with him. He'd never do that!
In the spurs match, would you say ballack for JC or Alex for Kalou was like for like?
No, I wouldn't - but it was the wrong decision, wasn't it? Joe Cole was destroying Spurs almost every time he got the ball; taking him (and Kalou) off made made us more defensive, invited pressure and we paid the price. As per my point above - making changes to a team to protect a lead doesn't have to be about taking players off, it's about making sure they understand what they are doing when we have the ball and when we don't.
You're desperate to prove some sort of agenda here - simple fact is that when it has mattered, Grant's duff decisions have thus far vastly outweighed his good ones. Ranieri masterminded a couple of superb wins over the likes of Arsenal and United, sometimes with some very canny decisions in terms of tactics and substitutions; it didn't make him the right man for the job though.
Jiko...
I admire your subtle love for AG but never mind we all knew it anyway. :-)
Got to agree with JD. Whenever Spurs attack, they will leave gaps open in midfield and defence. Joe King Cole was tormenting the Spurs back 4 that night and Kalou wasnt doing too bad.
Even if they were throwing caution into the wind, Joe King Cole and Kalou were always a danger as they are waiting to pounce on every opportunity to counter attack. Their presense kind of took the sting out of our defense. But as soon as both of them were removed, the team shape was disrupted. Like JD said, we invited pressure. For me that was the main thing. Even though Spurs were chasing the game, im sure Ramos was still weary of the likes of J.Cole and Didier lurking and waiting for that chance to kill off the game. As soon as Joe Cole and Kalou came off, we lost that counter attacking threat which had been preventing Spurs from launching a full scale onslaught on our back 4 to get back into the game.
In tight games like this, he couldnt judge the situation that was best for the team. Its not the first time he crumbled in big matches with the exception of the Arsenal game. Rather then saying it was due to his lack of tactical knowledge, i would say he dint had tactical awareness. To win titles and silverware, you need to win the big games. Thats what im critical about Grant.
Cheers.
Hardly subtle.
On the Lmapard comments, it isn't completely clear what he's getting at or is it?
what does it mean?
The fans call it as they see it. They're behind the team, behind the player etc. No mention of manager.
Would he really be allowed to get away with those comments if they are what the reporter is making them out to be?
Hope JT do well later on. He needs to find his old self back.
>Celery
Thanks for the JC sub comments...my mistake
>JD
You are the ones pursuing an agenda here...fairness demands that you allow AG run till May before passing judgement (that would be based on FACTS & RESULTS), but you guys refuse to see any reason in that...he has not faired badly compared to EVERY other manager except perhaps fergie, but that FACT seems to be lost on you guys...and this is despite the FACT that he did not pick his team nor had any pre-season bonding/training like his peers...
March is ending this weekend, that leaves us with 2 more months...stop this crusade and channel all that beautiful energy into supporting the best team in the world!
Always Blue!
Nick nicely put it: Even a blind hen will occasionally peck a grain of corn.
Last weekend three hens had their first grain of corn:
Kevin Keegan got his first win.
Roy Keane got his first away win.
Arvam Grant got his first win against top 4.
@Cashif
Chelsea players rarely mention AG in interviews. It happens all the time.
>SimonT
"Kevin Keegan got his first win.
Roy Keane got his first away win.
Arvam Grant got his first win against top 4."
Against top 3 you mean?
If you say top 3, you miss out Liverpool (in Premier League).
Alex, are you getting so desperate to dig out something? :-)
>SimonT
If you say top 4 you'll be including chelsea i think...and we cant play ourselves can we?...sounds somehow i think...my opinion
Lafs...i'm not my brother!
Just expressing my views like everybody else here...if it doesnt rhyme with yours it doesnt mean i'm diggin does it?
Oh, never mind Alex. I think you're slightly more logical than Mr Musumba. :-)
Good article Kenn, and I think your sentiments are about right.
Avram has earned himself a bit of time, and respect, and I don't think there is a blogger on here that doesn't want for us to win some silverware under him this season.
It is however a fact though that he doesn't have top level experience, and there are certain areas of his game that need to be sharpened up... namely substitutions and keeping the defence tighter.
If Sunday was the first sign of him learning from earlier mistakes then fantastic, but I think we all agree that the jury is still out and will be for some time yet.
Also, interesting to note the above comments of Bog (1), who is clearly a moron, and Dannymackay (6), who was able to come on the blog and leave some insiteful comments.
It has been said before but we welcome the input of fans of other clubs on the Chelseablog if people are coming to engage in some sensible debate, rather than just talk shit!
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It seems Mr Grant is growing some 'Kahooners'....... Well done Avram, it is about tie the responsibility for your perceived shortcomings was shared with the players
Whilst I agree with the article from the point of view that the team needs our support to push the Blues on towards the end of the season and therefore all the negative catcalls at the game need to ease up a bit. But after the sight of Boris waving his arms on the sideline like the tick tack at the races, I'm sure he doesn't what his doing and I'm pretty sure the players didn't understand it either. Maybe he had some decent advise from the coaching team.
If by the time the Fat Lady sings and the cupboard is bare there is still the last game of the season at home to Bolton to sing "You Don't know what your doing"
@ GREENLIGHT
Regarding your link, do you think A.G's been reading comments on this blog?!
I heard earlier this evening that he was screaming and shouting at the boys, telling them that he refused to take all of the flack any longer and demanded that they had all better get their arses in gear. He shocked the whole team into silence with his ranting. Seems like he's finally getting a backbone.
And on a more serious note, J.T has picked up a hamstring injury and had to be subbed in the 2nd half of the England match tonight. Lamps didn't even leave the team hotel!! He's got a very bad stomach problem apparently.
Anelka AND Malouda..yes, Malouda..both had a great game. Nicky was blinding, best player on the pitch tonight. Don't know how he's not injured considering the foul on him by James in the penalty area...as for Maka, he's always ace IMO.
'Against top 3 you mean?'
Actually it was Grant's first league win against a team in the top seven.
@Alex
Missing the point again, I'm afraid - no agenda - if you weren't being so selective in your analysis of my take on Grant you will of course have noticed that I've given him ample praise where it's been due. Is that really the mark of someone with an agenda? And barking 'FACT' after everything you say - well - second rate David Brent impressions don't really cut it on here, I'm afraid.
Personally, I don't really give a fuck about Grant in the long term; he's done OK, but I've seen far better and far worse in charge of the club and I've never 'supported' any of them - I support Chelsea and will do so long after Grant has shuffled off to his next port of call.
It has been said before but we welcome the input of fans of other clubs on the Chelseablog if people are coming to engage in some sensible debate, rather than just talk shit!
True. I posted a comment on Red Rants last night to erm..voice an opinion..i've just been back to visit the site and guess what??!!!!
Yup..no post!! Do you think it's because i happened to mention that i was a Chelsea fan?
Anelka was very good tonight. I want to see a similar 4-4-2 to the one we played against the arse in the last 20 mins. Malouda needs to play more like that for us, seems like he was up for it because he was in his home country, but that's no excuse for his performances for us. I always want Chelsea to win but still, I want Grant to leave at the end of the season, because let's face it, we could have a much, much better manager and then imagine where we'd be?! Just wanted to point out that Nani & Ronaldo didn't play for Portugal tonight because of 'injuries'. Maybe Lamps illness and JT's tight hamstring are similar 'injuries'?!
Re: 42
OMG, you're right, Nick. I only looked at the results amongst the Big 4.
I wonder why Alex didn't comment further on that. :-)
Sheva plays and scores for Ukraine, but just like in the euro qualifiers it doesnt matter how many times he scores because unless our whole team gets injured he wont get a chance, thats fair right?
BTW AG must go even if we win the EPL and Premier League titles (extremely unlikely)
The Chels are being linked with Ronnie again this morning after it's been said he's quitting Barca in the summer. He can be sold for as little as £12 million, bargain!!
Barca reckon that no club would pay more than that for him because his form's been so bad this season and he has hardly played. Really? I can't recall EVER seeing him play badly!!
Buck said on tv about 2-3 weeks ago that Chelsea/Ronaldinho would not be happening, they weren't interested. Does anyone think a "revised" price will ignite a fresh interest?
J.T might be out of this weekend's game with his hamstring strain.
Isn't it lovely...
Since Avram Grant left his post as national coach (2002-2006), Israel's FIFA
Ranking has jumped from 44 to 26.
Israel FIFA Ranking:
2007 -- 26
2006 -- 44
2005 -- 44
2004 -- 48
2003 -- 51
2002 -- 46
I saw a much worst manager than Grant last night and is it called Capello.
Amazing how a mediocrity could be hidden behind god posture smart look and gimmicks like “will Becks make 100†“who will be the captain†and so on. Nothing is said about his game plan, team selection, motivation and understanding of how to get the best of those players. No much difference between Fabio and Steve then. So the look and stats have only informational value on level 1, not more. So Grant dress since and record as an Israeli coach are not important to me. Important is if he manage to get the best from the players and grab the title under MU noses, that will do it for me. Then if some you still wish to put him on the cross, feel free to do that at the end of May, but now live him and the team alone. Sit back and enjoy the show
Bad news about JT, but Alex is a capable replacement. Anelka was awesome.
How the haters must have watched last night and realised just how much England need Lamps. We created nothing all night, Stevie Me was the second most anonymous person on the pitch (I had to check this morning that Trezeguet somehow played about an hour - how is it possible to not touch the ball once in an hour of football ???)
A few pointers for Fabio:
- 4-5-1 definitely wont ever work if Rooney is your lone striker. He'll drop deeper than the midfielders, as he proved last night.
- 4-4-2 doesnt really work if your two (defensive) central midfielders dont leave the half way line (Barry and Hargreaves).
- Rio Ferdinand was about as inspirational as a bout of Legionaires at your local swimming pool.
- Stewart Downing wont be an International footballer as long as any poster on this blog has a hole in their arse.
Finally, watching all the results file in last night from the Internationals, I'd like to extend a huge thank you to Steve McLaren for chuffing up the European Championships for us. It was locked in the back of mind for ages, then we play France, and it all comes flooding back that we wont be playing, although based on last night it's not a bad thing.
I'm backing the Spaniards in the summer - anyone see who scored their goal last night ;)
>SimonT
I guess their relationship with Lebanon has also increased with his departure...
Lafs...
Heard of the word 'obsession'...?
@JD
Ranieri NEVER EVER beat Arsenal...correct me if am wrong but I do remember Arsenal pounding us 2-1's every time we played.
@SimonT
You mate are having a laugh...The point of this article by Ken was on giving credit where it is due...Israel's ranking etc etc do not make sense in the current discussion...And you talk about logic???? Interesting!
Avram delivered a big win but we need silverware like Ken put it.
J MUSUMBA Raniery beet Arsenal 2-1 to qualify for CL semis. Bridge last goal scorer, Raniery in tears !
@Alex - since I understand simon's problem now I will not be too "hard" on him
Ranieri NEVER EVER beat Arsenal
Jiko - thanks for clarifying the above point for the hard of intelligence.
@Ken
Good article if we come away with silverware this season i'd says well done to Grant. BUT he still has to prove himself. If he stays for next season then we should show more support for him and see where he gets us. In my opinion he should go at the end of the season no matter what.
@Jose M
I think Ranieri was manager when we knocked Arsenal out of the Champions League in 2004; one of our best games ever.
KTBFFH.
Somehow is the injury to JT a small blessing in disguise? When Alex and Carvalho were in defence, i thought we looked solid both on the pitch and in the air. Alex can jump alot better but its obviously due to his build and height. Lampard having a stomache problem? Cool, now we can see a real 4-4-2 that we all have been waiting for.
Btw, Chelsea would be visiting Malaysia this summer. The official website posted news that it will make appropriate arrangement for the 2 Isrealis in our team. Does that mean AG is staying for good? Or he's juts living to fight another day? Or he will be gone by then. What signal is Kenyon trying to send out by having our pre season in South East Asia?
I do fear that JT is storing up serious problems for himself in the long term; he keeps rushing back from injury and is clearly doing himself no favours - this needs to be addressed or we'll end up losing him for a prolonged spell, or worse still that he does himself more permanent damage (if he hasn't already).
Thought last night's game was symptomatic of friendlies played at this stage of the season; lots of players with their mind on the run-in and impending Champions League action. Is any England manager, irrespective of how good they are, really going to be able to tell much about his players from the type of half-hearted rubbish that was on show last night?
What signal is Kenyon trying to send out by having our pre season in South East Asia?
The kind of signal that says "buy some nice replica shirts..."
New shirts as well I believe. I'm sure the home one will change for next season ??
I could be wrong, but I'm sure I saw a story a month or so ago about Joe Coles motor being smacked into while he was at a photo-shoot for the new kit......
Don't think he's got too many in the Matthew Harding end either
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Poor old Billie G. It must be a nightmare being an oldie amongst all those bloody kids; Theo and co. are probably all running around Facebooking each other and attending Skins parties whilst he's pining for his mate Thierry who persuaded him to go there in there first place and then duly fecked off to Barca.
He is Chelsea sick, is he? Somethimes people apreciate better from a far, than up close..
@Kenn
Funny discussion, really funny discussion. However, Kenn let’s put things on their shelves.
First Grant has created false situation on the pitch by playing Essien as the right back, while we have very good one natural right back - Belleti.
Then he (Grant) fixes his own mistake by restoring Belleti on the right back and moving Essien to the place he belong to - midfield and everybody around start to praise the genius. Hmmmm........
Our poor corner defending has been exposed and exploited by Rottenham, and any sensible manager would stress all his attention to this point. Nevertheless, in the very next game Arsenal scores… from the corner set piece. No defenders on the posts , poor defending. Is it players getting clumsy, or manager does not pay attention to the mistakes? I do not know, but in both cases manager must show authority.
Guys, stop this useless discussion GRANT IS NOT A MANAGER FOR CHELSEA either he wins something or not.
On Sunday, it was surely Steve Clarke who urged the return to the Mourinho formula of playing balls up to Drogba and providing him with the foil of Anelka (a much better one that Svechenko provided most of last season). As Joe Cole said afterwards: 'we played balls up to his chest and got up in support'. Lampard especially did this. Credit to Grant for taking the decision, but it was Clarke who could be seen issuing the detailed instructions to the subs. These would simply have been to keep the shape of a 442 while looking for the early ball upfield - or as Jose used to put it: 'the quick transformation of defence into attack'. This was his chief philosophy and the one he lectured coaches on at an international forum shortly after taking over at Chelsea when he was seen as the bright new thing, having just one the Eufa Cup and Champions Lge in successive seasons in a moderately funded, unfashionable club. It can be played in all manner of ways, with balls to speedy wingers (more or less the Manyoo way) or balls up to a striker. Of course, the striker has to be world class and able to control the ball and keep possession while his runners either position themselves for passes back into the midfield, or run beyond him into the box beyond defenders. Drogba is the recognized master of this, a fact acknowledged by pundits everywhere. On Sunday it was a measure designed to rescue a match that was slipping away due to the failure of the 'new style' to provide goals against a better class of defence than is normally provided in the Premiership. We will persist with this 'new style', however, against the weaker teams, so expect to see Middlesboro defend deep and frustrate us at every opportunity. If they don't, the higher quality players will destroy them. I predict it will be a frustrating afternoon, that may well see us revert to the 'old style' if we are not ahead with twenty minutes to go. If Villa get anything at Old Trafford on Saturday, I expect the added nervousness about the importance of the game in terms of reducing the lead at the top will make it even more so.
>Mikel
"Guys, stop this useless discussion GRANT IS NOT A MANAGER FOR CHELSEA either he wins something or not."
Since when does winning something count for nothing?...If he doesnt win anything, the grounds for sack arises, otherwise you should hold your peace and let the man whose pockets fund the goodies at chelsea take the decision...
Time shall be the jury. It will provide hard facts and evidence whether Toady is professionally qualified to be Chelsea manager or not. And what that time comes, I hope everyone involved with Chelsea or anyone relevant will force the issue and make the change. He's had his chances. But if he is going to screw it 8 out of 10 times, then whats the point? Time will tell. When? End of next season at most.
Perhaps someone can do an end of season review/analysis and then pass a fair judgement on Grant whether he should stay or not base on his results and silverware tally.
Really guys, why are you bothering even talking about it? At the end of the day, it's down to R.A, Buck, Kenyon et al whether or not Avram remains in a job at the end of the season. We are all just here to pay our money to the club via season tickets, match tickets, merchandise etc. They DON'T CARE what our opinions are!..They are the people in charge at Chelsea, not us.
As someone on an ealier article said, it's not like we're abroad where fans play an integral part of how the team is run, so we might as well just go with the flow. It isn't gonna stop us all complaining but complaining isn't gonna get us anywhere either. Catch 22...
I've said before, there's absolutely no way Roman is just gonna get rid of Avram..think about it. Not only is he best mates with him but could you imagine if Avram did get the boot? The backlash that R.a would get..the mocking "we told you so's" by the world's media..Basically, he'd have to admit he was wrong in sacking T.S.O and face looking like a right proper t**t in front of the world.
faced with a choice between giving bestest buddy Avram the old heave-ho, saying "sorry ,but i was wrong" to the fans (and T.S.O), getting in a decent manager who won't lose our trophies, looking like a knob in front of the world but at least you've admitted you're mistake..
OR
sticking with the manager you've got, hoping that things will get better (quickly!), using the popular quote, "he's only been here 6 months so we must give him more time", Which do you think he'll go with?
I'll put £100 on option 2.
It all boils down to pride..
I'm not happy with Avram because of our trophy losses, there's no way in hell we'll win the Champs but we've never had that to lose...though it would be amazing to win it!
I don't have anything against him as a person, he seems really sweet. My Dad loves him, thinks he's hilarious. Don't quite know how to take that though!
Would we REALLY be happy with ANYONE at Chelsea post Mourinho? I'm not sure...
Like i said, time will be the judge. Roman is not stupid to the point that he will let sentiments rule his head eh? After 3 seasons (including next season) without a major trophy, what will be think or feel? He spent so much money on Chelsea and he's happy to just let a toad run the club upside down? I hope not.
Really guys, why are you bothering even talking about it?
Well, it beats working for a start...
Maybe Roman won't let sentiments rule his head but i seriously doubt he'd come out publicly admitting he was wrong in his managerial decisions. I think what R.a's done for the club is to be admired, let's face it, without him there wouldn't be a Chelsea but we all know he was the one who gave T.S.O his marching orders at the end of the day to give Avram the job and i can't see him for the life of me giving him the boot...not yet anyway.
His decision is backfiring on him so far, as he's a man who loves silverware in his cupboard..( and ours seems to of been nicked!)
Maybe after a couple of more seasons of winning nothing he'll have a change of heart. That's if he hasn't moved on by then if rumours of him getting bored at Chelsea are true..
Or maybe after a couple more seasons Avram will turn out to be the best football manager to ever hit English shores! Who knows? Time will tell...
I think its also about where to draw the line. How much time can be allocated to Grant to take us forward. Grant was brought in to play attacking football and win. He promised us style and substance. But if we dont see progression in the team in all aspects, how are we going to support or defend him? Jose took us to a level of winning. Grant came in to bring us to the next level and that is winning + style. Something has to change. And it all begins this summer.
Ok I'll stop talking about it. I'll treat it like sex and limit myself to just thinking about it.
I agree with Lollipop... Speaking words of wisdom... Let it be...
Let it be... Let it beeee...
There'll be no Scouse singing on this blog, thank you very much...
Nice one, JD! LOL!
I'm fed up with Roman, to be honest!
And I don't want to have fun with Jiko on here anymore!
I demand Mr Musumba to give us a speech every day to keep my doctor away!
Don't you just love the Guardian, yet another little dig at all things Chelsea.....
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I'd imagine Signor Musumba is away revising his Chelsea history...
I’d imagine Signor Musumba is away revising his Chelsea history…
But we don't have any history, the scousers say so..... so it must be true.
I demand Mr Musumba to give us a speech every day to keep my doctor away!
That's a shame SIMONT. Jose only talks to CLIVE.
He must have that certain "X -Factor" because even Alex has gotten into the habit now as well!!
@ CLIVE
What have you got that the rest of us haven't?!
LOLLIPOP, Have you even watched Barca this year? Roni has only played like a 3rd of their games and has missed over half of their training sessions, I know because I watch La Liga games on SS1 and all I can tell you is he has been AWFUL,
If there is a playmaker we should buy in the summer then its RVDV!
@ JK
I admit to not seeing Barca that many times this year, i'd be lying if i said i had. Maybe he has been awful this year but that's probably down to all his contract issues that seem to of been going on for ever. Perhaps he's lost interest and can't be arsed.
APART from this year, can you honestly say he's crap majority of the time he plays? Bet you can't. He's STILL the best player in the world IMO...pure class.
@JK
There are a few playmakers that we should keep a look out for. I think they are what we need the most apart from wingers and possibly shape out how we attack next season.
1) Samir Nasri from Marseille
2) Diego from Werder Bremen
3) Rafael Van Der Vaart from Hamburg
4) Luka Modric from Dinamo Zagreb
5) David Silva from Valencia - This lad is just like Pablo Aimar.
@ Lollipop......
Sorry, Lolli... I don't agree. If Ronnie can't be arsed at Barca, he isn't going to be any more motivated on 150 Grand a week at Chelsea!
@ GREENLIGHT
Fair point, i only raised the issue as there are fresh reports that Chelsea are on alert for him again apparently. AC Milan, Inter Milan and erm..Spurs are also tracking what's going on with him, so he can't be THAT bad can he? Ok, he HAS had a bad season so far, is it something like 8 goals in 13 La Liga games and he was a sub in 3 or 4 of those games? I'm not sure if i'm right on that, sure someone will correct me if i'm not.
As i said though he's still the best player in the world IN MY OPINION.
Whatever, i don't see him coming to the Bridge anyways, even though Belleti is a very good friend of his. I see him going to AC Milan if anywhere.
Not sure about all this Ronaldinho business; the money would be ridiculous, but a change of scenery might be good for him, although London's nightlife may be a bit too much of a temptation.
It might be foolish to write him off at 27 / 28 or however old he is though - the perceived wisdom in Italian football when Zola moved here at 30 was that he was finished. I doubt that Goofy is as half as dedicated or professional as Franco was though. On current form I'd say we'd avoid like the plague - whatever Avram is or isn't, I doubt he'd stand for any lack of commitment or twatish behaviour whilst he's under pressure to deliver silverware.
Ken - good list; Diego looks the business but Spain seem the most likely destination but a very good call on Silva - think he's the one we'd want from Valencia rather than he who cannot be named on here :-) (although he scored an absolute cracker against Italy last night).
I can't see Silva wanting to leave Valencia, if he ever did it would be to another Spanish club.
I think David Bentley is a great choice. Young at 22, versatile..even though he's a midfielder, he can also play on the wing.He's also put the ball in the net a few times for Blackburn (where he's wasted.)
The new David Beckham? Definitely, maybe.
Sign him up!!
RA's little attempt to go down the galactico route last year failed pretty catastrophically. When you add to that the club's stated intention to try and lose a little bit less money in forthcoming years, I think we can assume that there won't be any trophy transfers for a bit.
AG's immediate problem is that the destiny of the league is not in our hands. We can only win if Man U f**k it up, and while I would weep sweet tears of joy if they did so (in fact, ahh would luv it if we beat them, ahh would LUV it), I think we all know it's not going to happen. So, we're not going to win the league, which means that people are going to be unhappy with AG and he's going to look like a failure -- unless he can bring home the Euro Cup. Judging by the way the blogs are going here, he can only please people when results go the right way, and there are no guarantees in either competition.
It would be different if he was visibly changing the way the team was playing, but he's not. This is why I remain in the anti camp despite the impressive win on Sunday. I'm all for the idea that a manager ought to be given time, and that it shouldn't all be about results: but that only works if said manager is actually visibly implementing new ideas. There's still not the single tiniest shred of evidence that AG is moulding the team into "his" Chelsea. The victory over Arse was based on a magnificent display of midfield control, a completely solid back four [Essien was helped by the fact that Van Persie was clearly miles from his best form], and Drogba power: i.e. stuff that has been winning us home games for the last four years. I completely applaud AG for getting such a good performance out of the team after so many confused and wobbly ones, but that's not the same as "doing a Wenger" and actually trying to *change* the culture of the team.
It's hard to give a manager time if it's not clear what he's using that time for. That's why AG will be judged, in the usual superficial/shallow way, on results [if Robbie Keane misses in the 89th minute, AG is a hero; the goal goes in, so AG is a demon toad from hell]. The only way he's going to get a trophy is by winning almost every game from now until the summer. I don't see that happening. I think he'll have to go.
The question of whether that's a good thing or not is of course a different matter. (But come on, all you Grant-lovers: explain to me just exactly *why* you think it would be a good thing for Chelsea if AG was manager for the next couple of years. What is it that you want to see more of? What am I missing?)
Apparently we lost out on a guy called Lubos 'Kalouda'
(Malouda n Kalouda :)
Personally I'd like to see some of our youngsters being phased in more next season.
LOLLIPOP, Dont you recall him saying he would never sign for "boring" chelsea, heres the link LINK I dont think he will leave Barca in the summer despite everything we have heard, I think the essential buy for the summer is a playmaker, Van Der Vaart would be a great addition to our squad and would also give us more firepower in front of the front two, His club are keen to cash in and he knows HTC so I think a deal for him would be the best option to solve our search for a world class playmaker
It seems that all everyone talks about ever is buying and buying more players, don't you guys think that chelsea has enough players as it is. For any of the players that you all named to come in someone from our midfield would have to leave, who would you guys want to say goodbye to?
@ CLIVE
What have you got that the rest of us haven’t?!
The occasional nasty rash in my nether regions! ;-)
Cashif,
"Apparently we lost out on a guy called Lubos ‘Kalouda’"
Someone who's a mix of Malouda and Kalou ?? Not sure we 'missed out'. More like ran away screaming...........
On the playmaker front, I'll go Van Der Vaart as the first choice. The guys having a stormer in the Bundesliga and for Holland.
Then Modric, although he destroyed England, in hindsight, that's not much of an achievement. Diego will go to Spain (I reckon Barca to replace Deco).
Nasri is surely headed to Arsenal and Silva I'm just not sure about (although if he signed and his team-mate also called David was interested, then break the bank....).
@ LUCA
Its between Lamps and Ballack clearly.
My first choice would be David Silva or Samir Nasri(i dont think he fancies a fight with Fabregas.) followed by Diego. Lastly it will be Van Der Vaart. I do feel Nasri is a possibility. He hasnt been linked with much clubs recently and he is top class. Young and skillful too. Silva like i said, is similar to Aimar. He and J.Cole would do well making goals for our fearsome duo upfront. Imagine a lineup of Drogba, Anelka, Silva/Nasri/Diego/Van Der Vaart, J.Cole and Essien. The 5 of them are going to strike fear in any manager.
Maybe Grant will have a "Road to Damascus"-type epiphany (not meant to be a pun on Middle East relations). Maybe he'll hit upon a method of play that will be deemed sexy AND effective. Maybe, my arse.
I don't think his term at Chelsea should be dependent on whether he wins trophies or not, I don't think he's qualified or imaginative enough to lead Chelsea to where we want to be. If by some fluke he ends up winning us something, I would be ecstatic, but I still wouldn't think he has what it takes for the long run. He certainly doesn't have the dressing room behind him nor a great number of the blue faithful. My own thinking is that the team wins us games but when he wants to get involved, we lose. Somebody a few posts back (was it JD?) said that no talented manager, in this day & age, can fly under the radar of the major teams for the decades that Grant has been in the business.
To paraphrase Limetreebower's elegant & well-thought out comment (95), Grant has not shown any change in our way of play nor a hint of things to come. It's all very well coming out post-match saying how well we played but nobody honestly believes it had anything to do with him directly.
Grant, with or without silverware, is not the man to lead Chelsea any further than this season.
No argument anybody puts forth will convince me otherwise.
As an afterthought, I'm well and truly over my post-Mourinho hangover - he was fantastic for the club, loved him to bits but I'm not holding a candle for him. Scolari might be a wise choice - anyone that has the balls to slap a Serbian defender gets my vote!
I believe that Scolari has been known to thump the odd journalist in his time too Desmond - never a bad thing...!
@ JK
At the end of your link he also says he's "trying to give my best to Barcelona" and as you say, we also know that's not true at the moment.
Never say "never"..(even though i can't actually visualise him in London)
@ LUCA
If it was a choice as Ken says between losing Ballack or SuperFrank, i'd have to wave off Ballack i'm afraid. I'm strictly in "team Lampard" on that subject!
@ CLIVE
That's a little too much information!
Call me a hater if you want, I would request all the Chelsea 'fans' to keep their admiration of other clubs to themselves!! My blood boils when i read something 'nice' about other club!!!! We are not here to compliment other's styles or players or this team is better this season..I think it is against our nature to concede defeat until the last moment.. and to sing praises of other clubs..This shouldnt be the place!! complain..whine..cry...about our style of the game NO problem.. but PLEASE refrain from 'admiring' other clubs..
excuse me.. but I really HAD to get that off my chest!
I know Fifty, it couldn't happen to a nicer club! I suppose if they were relegated well, that would be special.
Look at them trying to buy the league and destroying football, it disgusts me?!?!?
Oh wait - no its not that fucking easy is it!!
This has been great at shutting up the many red fans i work with.
:)
KTBFFH
Clive,
Now that would be worthy of an open-top bus parade.
I'm almost tempted to say I'd accept a trophy-less season to see that.....
in the last 16 matches, Middlesbro' have beaten us only twice. both times during mourinho's tenure. i hope it's a good sign.
Ballack to leave -- UNLESS, he really shows us what he's truely made of from here till the end of the season.
He's meant to be a superstar, an unquestionable 'World Class' player. Yes, he's had a few impressive gsmes, but really, overall, has he added all that much to our team?
Van Der Vaart for me or one. Put Joe Cole in the middle and get a couple of quality wingers.
and SimonT, not to worry... Just heard we've set our sights on ...
Malou.
I know its too early to talk next season but if RA/AG/Kenyon really want to see attractive football, they'll put their money where their traps are next season and buy pure attack minded players.
I'd hope that Drogba stays put with us for one more season. If not - Play Anelka in the center; Two no-nonsense wingers (not malouda or any louda!) - someone with magic dust on their feet when they cross/ dribble and make runs (like Robben;)) like Martin Petrov, Franck Ribery, Vicente, Quaresma. I'd even settle for Fiore or Mancini since any one is very hard to get. The point being we need the new Garrincha. I know its hard to take it but we need to offload someof our multipurpose versatile midfielders. Id stick with Lamps, Ballack (sympathy vote), Mikel or Essien (if lamps would leave - then we can stick with both) and see off Steve "Blue-Scholes" Sidwell, Maka (get a profit out of him)! Our defense is decent enough, may be blood Mancienne next season :)! I dream of an idyllic attack minded wingers with no fear in their mind. Just pure genius. Like John Rambo would count his victims, they would count the number of times they would nutmeg Rio Ferdinand in a game. Just make Claudio Pizzaro look like fucking Pele!
Common Chels! Just get the shopping right this time!
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You can not be serious!!!
Will there ever be an end to this madness???
Just been reading about the rescheduling of the Chelsea v Everton game on the official site. It's a joke! Sky TV don't show Chelsea games 97% of the time, it's always ManUre or Arsenal that they televise. All of a sudden though, the game has to be moved to accomodate Sky?!
F****ng outrageous!!!!!!!!
CASHIF, We cant sell Ballack, As I see it, He wants to end his career at Chelsea and Lamps and DD will follow TSO to his next club, not to mention how much class and strength to our midfield, he is proberbly the only one we have who can both defend well and be excellent going forward, We should axe Malouda unless he dramatitcally improves! KTBFFH!
He might not be heading back to the Premiership if this is to be believed.
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Another two stories one will bring a smile to your face, the other will give you concern, you'll have to decide for yourselves which is which. ;-)
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Alex Ferguson said, “I’ve always said you don’t dismiss Chelsea, because of the size of their squad, the strength of their squad and the experience in their squad.â€
He certainly knows his enemies very well!
Found this on another site,regarding the Everton game.
"Although the change of fixtures means Chelsea have to play two league matches in the space of four days, it also means that they will have two extra days to prepare for their April 26 meeting with Manchester United at Stamford Bridge, or for their Champions League semi-final tie on the 22/23 April, assuming they get past Fenerbahce in the quarters. Considering that those opponents will be either Arsenal or Liverpool, one would assume that Chelsea would look at the brighter side and not bitch about things since they can easily field a weakened side at home to Wigan and rest stars for the Goodison Park trip.
So doesn’t this constitute as an unfair advantage to Chelsea?"
We'll have to wait and see if we benefit or not,we can only live in hope.
Bored of waiting for Arsenal's result - they've come back to 2-2
Has anyone thought of Anglicised versions of some of our (ex-)players names, for example Manny Small or Frank the Beefy?
Watching the Villa game on Sopcast.
2-0.
When they come forward, they come in numbers, not piling up either, but making different runs.
It looks so easy...
If we had just won the games against Aston Vanilla and Spuds then we would be just 1 point behind Sir Alices ponces but now we have to rely on them losing on of their games whilst we have to win every game. Can you imagine it happening with Avram Grant, I cant but I could have imagined it with Jose (Damn you Roman)
Here is an article about Grant that some of you might enjoy: LINK
" A team who will fill the empty seats that so rankle with Abramovich".. from the above Times link.
The press write such crap. Meaningless dead rubber fixtures aside, when was there more than a handfull of empty seats at Stamford Bridge. Even when the article is largely positive, they still cannot resist having a little go at sticking the knife in! Wankers.
I thnk Simon Greenberg ( a lifelong Tottenham fan, if last week's press is to be believed!)has been attempting to apply some spin the the Avram debate this week.There is also a very interesting article in the Mail about Grant's life and history:
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"14 Years of age between Grant, 52, and Sir Alex Ferguson, 66, manager of Manchester United, Chelsea’s rivals for the Barclays Premier League title "
Blimey, I didn't realisise Grant was only 52! If he works til he is Sir Red Nose's age, we could have him for another 15-20 years!
Premier League moving into the stage of the intrigue and drama. It looks like this season is going to be the most dramatic season for the last 4 years. two years of Chelsea rein and then ManUre leaders almost did not change through the second half of the season. This season it is all crazy! Do you remember who were the leaders at the beginning of the season? Yes, Chelsea, then Arsenal, Manchester started the season extremely poorly and now are leading the race. Seven games left for us my friends take your seats, sit down comfortably we are entering the Crescendo stage. This is the stage where the virtuoso of the manager and stamina of the players can bring the winning touch. My dear friends this the duel of maestros. Arsenal has shown on Saturday all signs of divine intervene, ManUre showing almost frightening form. Well...... Listen, thou mighty God of the football save the Chelsea and give us the victory!!!!!
Blimey, I didn’t realisise Grant was only 52! If he works til he is Sir Red Nose’s age, we could have him for another 15-20 years!
15-20 years, GOOD GOD NO!
I want a 4-goal win to Chelsea today... Drogba, did you hear?
@ Greenlight,
I could barely read the article because of the sound of all those names dropping - I wonder how much that column cost the powers that be.....!
Ricky scoring? in the 5th minute? what's the news ppl? anyone please say anything, my eyes are stuck on live scores websites but I donno how the game is going on
isn't it great that we are playing attractive football, finally.
/sarcasm off
1-0
Unbelievably lucky. We could eaily have lost that.
Beletti was SHOCKING.
Ballack isn't quick enough to get up in support.
SWP needs a foot replacement operation.
Totally abysmal display,Alves should have scored three at least.
The only positive was that we won,nothing else!
Blimey we looked just like in the "good old jose days"- but a win is a win
from an article about rainieri in guardian:
Not that Chelsea's fans were initially welcoming. They taunted Ranieri by chanting the name of his predecessor, compatriot Gianluca Vialli, and called him Clownio because his English was lacking. But by the time the daggers were out, websites and T-shirts emerged urging 'Save Claudio' and 'Don't tinker with the Tinkerman'.
"If we had just won the games against Aston Vanilla and Spuds then we would be just 1 point behind Sir Alices ponces"
Don't forget there were 4 home draws as well. Blackburn, Livercrap and Foolham were 0-0 and the 1-1 against Everton.
Well done Ricardo!!!!!!!! He is our invisible star, that just week after week performs without ever raising problems. More respect to is due.
That was utter bollocks of the highest order. Yes, we won and got 3 points, but that IS THE ONLY THING we can take as a positve. If I was doing the ratings then Joe Cole would just get MoTM with the lowrest ever MoTM score 7/10 - his first corner was as bad as anything I've seen at any level. Drogba was at the other end of the meter from last weeks display, club-footed, moaning and error strewn. Kalou-less over complicated everything and gave the ball away just about every time bar once when he got it to SWP, who with all the time in the world launched the ball to row Z. Ballack, despite not having his best game went off and from that point our midfield collapsed to the point where Boro could have planted a flag in the centre circle, laid out a picnic table and put some tents up.
We backed off and let them come at us and we're damn lucky we didn't lose. Bridge went missing at left back, Belletti forgot how to run, though his corners are better than anyone elses, Mikel remained calm but couldn't impose himself and is now apparently NOT allowed to tackle according to the refs who penalised every tackle he made, Carlo reverted to Cech like route one hoofs up the park for Wheater et al to win every time and then left the goal utterly exposed for Alves to hit the post...although to be fair he had been badly exposed to the move by Drogba's unforced ball give-away, a missing midfield and a right back who'd presumably slipped out for a quick fag and cuppa. Anelka came on and played at right wing and Drogba sat behind him! Where the fuck does that come from if not the bench?
That was as bad as Fulham or any of the other rubbish games at SB this season...and this is better is it? If you'd taken someone there today for their first ever game......would you ever persuade them back? After last weeks massive display it's a bloody mystery to me how we can then go and dish up something as mouldy as this......it's just like the old Ranieri days.
Stamford Bridge stunk today, stunk because of the mouldy old rotten corpse of football served up to us by a team that was uninspired, insipid, toothless, wasteful and pathetic. I'm glad I'm not doing the review.
Poor Chelsea, very fucking poor.
Finally the blip of last sunday where AG's subs somehow worked out has been exposed as just a lucky week. How long does it take for him to see Belletti is as good as playing with 10 men - can't tackle or run which is pretty crucial for a defender. Bridge gets his first game for a month but he is a sub at best and good old avram fucks it up again by thinking Anelka is a winger. Was it just AG who thought Anelka ran round England in midweek from the right wing or was it the rest of the world who saw Anelka play as a centre forward? Hopefully the club realises the importance of Lampard after this game with ballack seemingly going backwards in his form (getting slower by the game).
Having read the times yeaterday, a long article in many papers about how AG invited journalists round for dinner to get them on his good side. He compares himself to Del Bosque (winner of the champions league unlike AG) but i hope the press crucify him for this tomorrow. He plainly didn't motivate the team after midweek and got away with playing belletti and bridge (belletti will cost us a big game soon if he continues as seen with his display in the cup final and against schalke) and his subs and tactics were so embarrassing they were almost laughable. The booing of him and the performance was deserved despite what anyone else says about how AG deserves our support. He doesn't deserve shit from us. HE cost us a cup final against spurs and HE cost us a qf against Barnsley. We'll beat Fenerbahce but AG will be unable to outwit Benitez in the semis and that'll be it finally! Our season will be officially over and he will finally be moved away to his job as Director of Football. I think what he needs is a big sign telling to do the exact opposite of what he thinks is right. If he plays Anelka on the wing one more fucking time he deserves all the booing in the world.
Only 6 more games until it's over for him... can't wait.
why are you all complaining - I thought you all loved the jose style of football - play crap but still win.
jeesh you lot really are a bunch of moaners LOL (said with a wink so don't get your knickers in a twist)
@ tommyblue - like i said the 3 points is welcome, but that was far from Mourinho-esque, because under Mourinho we knew how to close a game down and how to defend...today we did neither.
Under Mourinho we would have kept the ball after the goal, controlled play, bored them to death and nicked one more towards the end.
We would NOT have played like that, begging to concede, while looking clueless up front.
@ Tony
....Stamford Bridge stunk today, stunk because of the mouldy old rotten corpse of football served up to us by a team that was uninspired, insipid, toothless, wasteful and pathetic. I’m glad I’m not doing the review....
Not to mention that it was not even a sell out!!!!!
Unf**king believabe!!!
@ Celery
How many did Boro' bring? 100....150 max , but in essence yes, there were a few empty seats amongst the home fans, most noticeably 5 or 10 minutes from the end as people couldn't take any more. A poor atmosphere permeated the ground today, maybe becuase of the kick off time...maybe because of the opposition...who knows.
One thing is for sure....you can gauge the happiness of the crowd by the noise they make. Very pointedly Ballack got a standing ovation which he seemed very appreciative of. His absence was noticed immediately as I said before. At the final whistle there were boo's, and whllst I can't bring myself to join in , inside my head I was booing furiously. Prior to that I can't say too many in the MHL were jumping for joy at our alleged new brand of slick entertaining football. Again, I'm not completely blaming Grant. God knows the players let themselves down today...but the inspiration from the bench was missing again. Grant's body language suggests a man overwhelmed by confusion, and I'll say it again..where else would the players get the idea to play where they did after the substitutions if not the bench?
@ Tony
...Grant’s body language suggests a man overwhelmed by confusion...
For me as well that is spot on!
A for the crowd I have to agree with your take on it.
This was a great opportunity for him to get the team up to put 3 or 4 passed Boro to put some pressure back on United and build on the momentum of beating the Gooners. Instead such a flat, uninspiring and disappointing performance.
I agree that players should get some of the blame, but at the end of the day it is the manager's job to make sure they turn up.
I get the feeling the likes of Essien and Drogs would not want to be around if Grant is still at the helm next term. Even Malouda had a good start to the season but went away with Jose, it seeems!!
We are still in it with a shout with United at Boro and at home against the Arse not unlikely to drop points. The question is can we ride our luck and get maximum points ourselves????
"Not that Chelsea’s fans were initially welcoming. They taunted Ranieri by chanting the name of his predecessor, compatriot Gianluca Vialli, and called him Clownio because his English was lacking."
Funny that, but I seem to remember that it was the press who were publishing headlines like "Clownio", not the fans. It certainly wasn't the fans who spat bile upon him becuase he was only fluent in Italian and Spanish.
Remarkable rewriting of history there.
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you will not win the league as Man Utd are much the better team, 2nd is the best bet as you are the 2nd best team in the country at the moment. i think you have more chance of winning the champs league than the premier but how things go around you will probably end up getting beat by the scum. Shame better luck next year but i doubt it very much, unless Man Utd sell half there team in the summer then i cant see you finishing above them, sooner or later you russian backer will get fed up and leave and you will be left as alway were, mediocre with half your ground empty.
Not saying this to wind up chelsea fans, this is the honest to god truth, but before he made thoise subs i thought to myself "having seen the way ramos sunstitutes and how his changes worked, which players would i bring on and for whom" and i did think to myself "ballack off for belletti so that ur best midfielder essien can be restored to midfield, and anelka off for makalele to change the onus to a attacking 442" and thats just what grant did and it worked. maybe just fluke, but he deserves real credit for being bold, just like mourinho used to be and just like ramos is now. it's what won you the game and even if it hadn't, it's much better to have a go and still lose than to go out without trying a brave throw of the dice!