Monday, 06 November 06, 04:38 PM · Comments (13)
The Independent, Glenn Moore: "Remember, remember, the fifth of November. Tottenham fans will never forget it as they finally lifted the hex Chelsea have held over them since the pre-Premiership era."
Daily Telegraph, Henry Winter: "The 'bangs' reverberating around the Lane after this epic match could have been Jose Mourinho breaking the sound barrier looking for Graham Poll. The Hertfordshire official should have given Hossam Ghaly a red card, rather than yellow, for a nasty elbow on Michael Essien, and John Terry was unfortunate to be singled out for a second yellow for holding when everyone seemed at it."
The Times, Matt Hughes: "Terry took the first sending-off of his Chelsea career on the chin, removing his armband before he was formally dismissed, but José Mourinho was less impressed, launching a forthright attack on Poll. “Two matches with him and we’ve lost five points,” he said, referring to Chelsea’s 1-1 draw with Aston Villa in September. “One was disallowed and only Mr Poll can say why. I’ve seen it on TV with ten different angles and I don’t know why.
“Mr Poll goes home and we cannot ask him the reason for these decisions. I didn’t ask because they always have some excuse. He will say something like ‘Didier was free to head the goal but I saw a foul 30 yards away.’ He has very good eyesight. I don’t understand why John Terry was sent off. I’ve seen it also on TV and cannot find a reason. He sent Terry off while he was holding King and kept (Hossam) Ghaly on after he elbowed Michael Essien. Referees should come to the press conference and explain decisions, but it would be a fake conference.”"
The Guardian, Kevin McCarra: "Chelsea, whose spirit must always be admired, attacked more than Martin Jol's side and Arjen Robben, with a curling effort, struck the post in the 87th minute. All the same, among neutral observers it would take a curmudgeon to begrudge Spurs success. Jol himself, who had not overcome Chelsea, Manchester United, Liverpool or Arsenal until now, can claim to be a major influence on the outcome."
The Herald, Karen Giles: "Dramatic, contentious, thrilling and outrageous from vibrant start to neurotic finish, this game was an explosion of dastardly deed, heroic effort and extraordinary passion."
Official Chelsea FC Website, Neil Barnett: "Chelsea fought to the end, including through four minutes of stoppage time, but it had felt for some time that Three Point Lane would be No Point Lane this year. Manchester United are now three points ahead of Chelsea at the top of the table. Chelsea remain second. The goals conceded will be one concern. The refereeing decisions will be a major issue."
Michael Essien.
Complete this sentence: "Graham Poll..."
Ian, you are in danger of sounding a little paranoid there and, sorry for being rude, but a little bit whiney. Poll was crap and seemed to be on some kind of misguided personal mission to stamp out the curse of "grappling in the box". But think we tend to overdo this "is the world against us?" stuff sometimes.
Sure, we are the tacky, Russian arrivistes at the top table and this seems to upset some of the football establishment. And Jose Mourinho clearly isn't every one's cup of cocoa, hence the enemy of football stuff.
But we've also had ref decisions in our favour, such as JT saving a few with his arms last year, and Carvalho doing that grappling thing when we beat Barca 4-2.
It's fair enough to slag Poll off for being a crap ref, he probably is. But to suggest it is part of some hidden agenda is a step too far, I'd say.
I know this isn't really your point, but also think we get a bit carried away with our media bias obsession too. Some in the media clearly don't like us, but some do. As pointed out elsewhere have seen pretty decent coverage in NotW, the Observer and the Guardian in past week or so. Ian Wright and Lee Dixon on MoTD last night were more than fair. And even Fatty Norman in the Standard was spot on today.
We have more money than everybody else combined, the best players and the best coach. So it is a bit rich to bleat.
Think the best response in such circumstances is to show a bit of dignity, as JT did when he went off. No histrionics and looking for someone to blame. Just get on with it, and try to win every game, as usual.
If Arjen could finish and our right backs hadn't gone walkabouts, or Jose had responded better to Jol's clever tinkerings, we'd have won anyway.
Sometimes you win a football match for unfair reasons, and sometimes you lose. I've always tended towards the cockup rather than conspiracy school of thought, but if people are really out to "get us" then bollocks to them, let's win anyway.
Tottenham played very well, it was bound to happen some time. And personally, I'm loving this season because there is a bit of decent competition and some much-missed passion out there.
I'm glad when sanctimonious twats like Hugh Mcilvanney on the Sunday Times or those UEFA muppets hate us. Makes it all the sweeter when we win.
Fuck them all, as I believe the song goes.
Jimbo, I'd like to echo your general sentiments, and you're right about there being a slight overall improvement of the press coverage after the past few games ('slight' being the key word!). Games like Sunday's are great to watch and far more exciting because the opposition actually tries to attack and win the game. It proves that Chelsea are an exciting team when the opposition doesn't park the bus before the goal. If only Arjen would learn the art of dinking it over the keeper he could have had 5 goals in the last 3 games!
However, whichever way you look at the refereeing decisions in Sunday's match it is difficult to simply label them as 'crap' and without agenda. I think Ashley Cole's comments have shown that - Graham Poll was persistantly using terms such as 'you need discipline' and 'you need to be taught a lesson' when dishing out SIX yellow cards to Chelsea (in what was a free-flowing football match). In booking Cole and Maka it sounds like he was saying basically along the lines of 'even though you are obeying the rules of the game by being back 10 yards, I want you to go back even further simply because I have the power to make you do it'.
I'm not saying there is a conspiracy here - there are definitely plenty of dodgy decisions which go our way at home also - but it seems Poll had decided to make a point, having perceived us as a team which argue and put pressure on the refs. And he should be punished for his performance, just as Chelsea no doubt will be for picking up 6 yellows again.
One further point - correct me if I'm wrong Rico but I think JT only misses one match as it was not a straight red card.
And to finish your sentence Nick, Graham Poll is an egocentric c**k-sucking mother-f**king fagg*t-brained c**ting w**ker with a slightly inflated opinion of himself
Lordmorf spot on - the Cole and Maka bookings were a blatant piece of mark-setting by a puffed up little knob end. I've seen that he's going to report us to the FA for harrassing him - if there's anybody doing the harrassing, it's Graham Poll to us.
As for losing to Spurs, it's bizarrely unannoying. It's almost worth it to bookend the 1990 defeat so we can look back over that huge span of years, remember all those great results (personal fave, the 3-1 Gordon Durie match) and say 'I was there.'
I just hope we skin them alive at the Bridge.
Peter,
My personal fave was the one where we were battered by Spurs all game, but they couldn't score. Then Georgy Weir came on to score the winner - I love those sorts of daylight robbery wins because the Spurs fans were doubly gutted!
I was at the game in 1990 when Lineker scored the winner and will always remember being so angry because Kerry Dixon had a perfectly good goal ruled out for a 'shove' that day, so it would have been 2-2 and the record would have stretched back even further lol!
What I find particularly galling is that referees seem beyond any recrimination, beyond any 'laws'. Yes, referees' 'chief' Keith Hackett has mentioned the word 'investigation', but not before expressing his opinion that Poll did nothing wrong and that the Chelsea players basically lied about what Poll said on the pitch.
It is my opinion that Poll set out with an agenda and stuck to it regardless of the game in front of him, and for that he deserves to be called up.
John Terry will only have to serve a one-match ban, against Villa tomorrow.
I second your finished Poll sentence, Lordmorf, but I would change the final few words from:
... with a slightly inflated opinion of himself
to:
... with a highly inflated opinion of himself
The bastard.
to LordMorf
Chelsea will not be punished for 6 reds as it counts as five because one of the plyers (J.T) has got two cards. The punishment is for 6 players booked and not for 6 cards.
I was at the game in 1990 again and can't remember the disallowed goal, but do remember Gazza slapping Johnny B and not getting sent off.
The George Weah game was great. Loved the bundle in the net in the last minute.
Also loved the 3-2 when Lineker missed a penalty, but think that was just pre-record (might be wrong).
I too was at the Lineker game, and I know Poll is a tosser but we still sound like whiney children - esp A "Oh life is so unfair" Cole - can't we just leave that to the French?
Did anyone watch us against Wycome??
I'm chelsea through and through started going when Zola was wowing the matt harding stand by scoring headers at 5ft 4 or however small he is. But recently i have been alot less than impressed with our form, Ever since Tottenham it seems we don't know what we r doing, against Wigan (we should of won from a dissallowed goal for Kalou) but we allowed Wigan Athletic... to get back into the game with ease after Heskey aka the absolute joke scored twice and now we don't seem to have anything going for us, Don't get me wrong i love mourinho for what he has brought to the bridge but these performances are a joke. Boulharooz should go home and i don't know why Ballack plays for us 89 minutes at a time i'm not even aware he is playing, we need another striker because Didi is the only one scoring and that's not right for consecutive premiership champions. It's time for Jose to swallow some pride and sort this team out!!
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Is a C*NT.
U forgot to mention in bad, JT is out 4 3 matches. and that makes our defense look unpleaseantly weak considering the performances of cannibal and ferreria. play Geremi maybe? With RC and cannibal in the middle, not sure. I like our 4-3-3 better than our 4-4-2 has to be said. i hate losing, but u have to take it on the chin.
Dear Mr Barwick
I am writing to complain about the standard of officiating during the recent (5th Nov) match between Tottenham FC and Chelsea FC at White Hart Lane. I don’t suppose there are many of us who cannot help but find fault with officials when their team loses. Managers are certainly not immune. Hence, I recognise the danger that the views I express could be easily dismissed as being the result only of bitter disappointment. I am mindful of that as I write. As you read I hope you are capable of looking beyond the blanket defence of referees, which is natural, as any employer would want to protect its staff.
I have several questions. Obviously not all of these are founded on Sunday’s game, or indeed Graham Poll, though that is where I begin.
1. Can you explain why Graham Poll is still refereeing top-level football matches despite many high profile errors?
2. Can you clarify why certain goal celebrations, dissent and shirt pulling (as examples) are comparable in Graham Poll’s opinion to an elbow to an opponent’s face? I mean, he did see it didn’t he?
3. Can you explain the pattern of behaviour towards Chelsea FC and John Terry in particular and reassure me there is not an agenda here?
4. Why aren’t clubs able to comment, reasonably and in a public domain (e.g. TV), about the standard of refereeing, without the risk of censure?
5. Why do you not compel referees to explain their decisions- immediately - and not leave it open to interpretation, rumour and speculation, led inevitably by the Internet and television?
6. What performance targets do officials have and how are they are assessed?
7. At what stage, can we expect the top tier of our national sport to be officiated in a professional, consistent, honest and fair manner?
8. Do you agree it would be helpful to have another debate about standards of refereeing?
I am unconvinced about the ability of Graham Poll to referee at the top-level. This opinion is not unique, as I’m sure you’re aware. He is not the only official known for making questionable decisions. He is though supposed to be the benchmark for standards in refereeing in England.
I would be grateful to hear your view on the inconsistent standard of refereeing displayed by Graham Poll and other officials at the top level in this country and particularly welcome your responses to the above questions.