Wednesday, 06 August 08, 07:51 AM · Comments (31)
So, now it turns out that Barça were correct to defend their interest in the Messi/Olympics saga. The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) have ruled in favour of Barça, Werder Bremen and Schalke 04 to say these clubs are not obliged to release their players for the Olympic games, and the clubs can now legally recall their players for the Champions League qualifiers. The Argentinian camp have responded by declaring their intention to play Messi in tomorrow's opening game against Ivory Coast.
Putting to one side the arguments of whether or not Messi should play in the Olympics (we have already had that debate on the blog), I have to say that it is incredible that the powers that be cannot clear up these issues at an earlier date. If Barça do decide to recall Messi now the player will have completed a ridiculous amount of air miles in the last couple of weeks which can only be detrimental to his performance both short term and long term. The fact that Fifa's Sepp Blatter has consistently stated that Messi should play in China suggests that he is not aware of the rules of the game in this case as the Olympics is not officially part of the international football calender.
Barça, on the other hand, always claimed to have the law on their side and have now been shown to be correct in their stance. However, if the club now does demand the player come home how is Messi going to feel about it? Fifa and Blatter have overstepped the mark in this case, CAS ruled that there was "no specific decision of the Fifa executive committee establishing the obligation for the clubs to release players under 23 for this tournament".
Given that Messi is now in China, I feel the best thing the club could do would be to act magnanimously, allow Messi to compete with Argentina while claiming a moral victory. Blatter should apologise for his part in the mess, and considering that Argentina have benefitted from Fifa's meddling they should be asked to offer some financial compensation.
Hey Nic...we will carry an FCBNEWS sign at the game today against NY Bulls...free advertising, you know!!!!
Hey Diatus, that's fantastic, I'll look out for it on the TV tonight. For all of you going to tonight's game - I hope you have a great time.
nice pun nic.
this situation is annoying. ive said i dont think messi should be there, but now that he is, we should NOT force him to come back. we are just going to hurt relations with him. he should have wanted to stay himself. forcing him is not the way to go. i know WE pay him and he is essentually our employee, but we are going to force him not to play for his country, something he ovbviously feels strongly about. this doesnt sit right with me.
i too agree with nic, well said by the way. i give messi some credit having been fairly quiet in this whole dilemma. sure, he could stand up to the whole thing more, but i think as young as he is, he will learn from it and hopefully benefit in a good way. if all goes/stays well, he is one of the key pillars of our barca.
have fun at the game!
is there anyway we can watch it online?
I think Guardiola said it best:
"Whatever happens," reflected Guardiola, "it's important Messi is happy.
"This is the most important thing."
"CAS decided that although it was an established custom for players to be allowed to travel to the Olympics, the tradition had no legal foundation and could not be enforced against the clubs' wishes."
So much for established customs of a magnanimous nature. Yes, the whole affair is annoying to say the least. Do I think Laporta will not call Messi back? After all this pettiness, he's going to suddenly have a heart and say, "Well, you know what? What the hell, let Lionel play in Beijing. The squad will endure until his return." Not. The man has been showing his true colors since 07/08, when the proverbial 'caca' hit the fan. You want to see a man's true character? Put him under pressure, it will show.
Why would you appeal a decision and then not recall him? Just seems dumb but then again he might have a change of heart after seeing how his team has performed in preseason. I think he will recall Messi and like any other player he will not be happy about it. Is it worth the risk? I don't think so. Anyways I am routing for Brazil - I wonder if Diego will be recalled but I hope he wont be.
Hey barcacanada you can probably catch the game here. I saw the Chivas game with this link. There should be a few streams going at game time.
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Barca should let him go as they want to keep Messi happy so calling him back is a mistake.
I would not be surprised if the board idiots insisted on Messi's return. Hoever if Barca keeps treating him like shit he should just ignore them and enjoy the Olympics !!
It all seems funny reading everyone comment, even those who wanted messi to stay for CL qualifiers suddenly want Messi to go to Olympics.... Are we blind or what?? didn't we notice from day one Messi wanted to represent his country!!!!
For anyone that's interested. Here is a link to a nic video about The History of Barcelona. Runtime 52 Minutes.
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Werder Bremen and Schalke have now released Diego and Rafinha to play in da olympics!!! They won the case.... what a u-turn!!!
No, nobody blind here..most important thing is Messi happy-just let him go. i'm sure when he come back to us he would be proud because barca give him the chance to play in the Olympic..
This argument was never about the clubs involved calling players back from Beijing. Once Messi was gone Barca never intended to bring him back. The point of taking the case to the CAS was to set a precedent for the future, namely that FIFA cannot compel clubs to release players to an event that is not part of the official FIFA calendar. The clubs have made it clear they are not going this route again, at least not without compensation for their players' participation. Come 2012 we will be talking about U-19s for the Olympics most likely.
Spot on, Cam. Well said.
The undiscussed part of this saga is Messi's impetuousness and immaturity in dealing with this matter. He doesn't like the fact that the rules support the club, so he sulks during practice and publicly complains about it to the press. He also basically said 'screw you' to his teammates who openly came out and said they would prefer that he stay and play with the club. Although Pep allowed Messi to wear the captain's armband during one of the preseason matches, I do not think Leo deserves it. He has a lot to do to earn that honor.
so who exactly voted blatter in presidency anyway
Couldn't disagree more, blaugranafan. Messi has been a stable influence for the club since he started showing up on the 1st team. Quiet, a hard worker, completely focused on the game. He's been beset with lengthy injuries yet continues to play with supreme excellence. The only thing he has asked was he wanted to play for his country in the Olympics, back when the 07/08 season was ending. After all he's given to the club, is it too much to ask to play in the Olympics? Laporta was petty to even bring up the whole issue. Do Barça need him to play against Wisla Kraków? I don't think so. If they do, we'll be in for another heartbreak of a season. I'm actually glad Messi first asked, then stuck to his guns on this issue. Shows cojones, something sorely lacking in the Catalan club for a couple years now.
DAMN IM LISTING TO THE GAME AGAIN ITS 3-1 SO FAR DONT KNOW WHO SCORED BUT DAMN WEE ARE MAKING A CLEAN SWEEP
FOR THE GOALS ITS XAVI, MARQUES,AND.......... YOU GUESED IT ETO'O
he is the preseason top goalscorer now 4-1 half time and red bulls looking lost
is anyone up watching NY-Barca right now? I'm starting to really like this Jeffren kid...
final score 6-2 win WOW pedro and jefrenn are to be keopt an eye on, the only blemish in this performance was thierry henry he had a stinker no doubt
Not looking to get into a fight, Pequito. I respect your opinion, although I don't agree with you. Let's just agree to disagree over Messi's commitment to the club.
I will say, though, that I personally am not fond of this line of reasoning: "Do Barça need him to play against Wisla Kraków? I don't think so. If they do, we'll be in for another heartbreak of a season." There have been more than enough home-and-away upsets in the history of cups to take anything for granted.
That's fine, blaugranafan. At heart we only want the same thing: to see Barça lift a few trophies this year! Let's agree to that
i want to see Barca lift at least 1 major trophy this new season-LaLiga! or CL..or Spanish Cup maybe
sorry for my broken english.., what i mean is hopefully this season Barca will win at least 1 major trophy-LaLiga or CL..or Spanish Cup. BARCA, BARCA, BAAAARCA!!!
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I agree .The club should let Messi participate in the Olympics. Barca may use him in the first leg of the CL qualifier if needed but should NOT under any circumstances prevent him from going to the Olympics entirely. This is a compromise that both the club and the player can live with. Otherwise,things can only get sour between Barca and Messi .That could be the worst case scenario !! Stay tuned.
@Nic,
Haha...I was right...tell Laporta to put my "attorney fees" in the mail.