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Tuesday, 29 April 08, 10:24 PM · Comments (68)

 

It wasn't to be for Barça tonight. Despite having more possession and more shots in both legs we were unable to score a goal in 180 minutes. Manchester United go on to the final in Moscow thanks to a cracking early goal from Paul Scholes. Barça are left to lick their wounds and to contemplate on where it all went wrong in what will almost definitely be the end of the Frank Rijkaard era.

For the first fourteen minutes Barça dictated the pace of the game. Messi had one good run in the first minute which was only stopped by a Scholes foul on the edge of the penalty area, Edwin Van Der Sar's kicking again looked questionable and in the seventh minute Eto'o took advantage of a poor kick but could not find anyone with his cross. Cristiano Ronaldo had hardly been seen the ball and when he did he had lost in quickly. In the fourteenth minute Ronaldo got robbed again in possession by Zambrotta, but the Italian defender made the mistake of giving the ball straight to Paul Scholes who hit a tremendous shot from 25 yards past Valdés into the top corner.

Barça then spent the next twenty minutes looking nervous with Messi looking like the only player capable of salvaging something. Every time Patrice Evra went forward Barça looked to find Messi to attack the space left by United's left back. In the 19th minute, Messi made a fantastic run from his own half which ended with a shot that forced Van Der Sar into a diving save.

However, this was Barça's worst spell of the match and we gave the ball away too many times in dangerous positions. In the 29th minute Toure lost the ball and Tevez put in a dangerous cross that Valdés only managed to palm away towards Ronaldo who headed the ball back dangerously and Puyol had to clear bravely, clashing heads with Milito in the process. In the last ten minutes of the half Barça began to look more dangerous, Deco had a couple of shots off target, and in the 37th minute Van Der Sar dropped Messi's cross but Evra reracted quickly to stop Eto'o from pouncing. Nani had a heaader wide at the other end but the last chance of the half went to Milito who failed to get sufficient contact onto Xavi's free kick and his header went wide.

The second half started promisingly but it was the same story of Barça dominating without creating real danger. United had a couple of chances near the hour, first Tevez played a neat one-two with Ronaldo and forced a good save from Valdés, and then Nani had a good run turning Abidal before wasting his shot. As the clock ticked by the game began to resemble more and more the first leg at Camp Nou as United renounced their attack to sit back and defend. Henry and Bojan came on but both were unable to make an impact. Henry did have a couple of half hearted efforts but his attitude had me screaming at the TV for not the first time this season. When is he going to realise that when he is the nearest player to the ball he needs to move up a gear?

It was nice to see how worried United looked as Barça pinned them back in their own half, but it was only really a fear of Leo Messi who had a great game but was let down by his team mates. For all the talk of Cristiano Ronaldo being the best in the world, for me Messi was better in both games. Unfortunately Ronaldo is the one who will be playing in Moscow and he was supported today by excellent performances by Tevez and Ferdinand. For Barça Puyol gave a typical captain's performance at the back while the midfield generally dominated the game. In the end it was down to one moment of inspiration from Scholes that was the difference between the teams.

Man Utd: Van der Sar; Hargreaves, Ferdinand, Brown, Evra (m92 Sylvestre); Nani (m77 Giggs), Carrick, Scholes (m77 Fletcher), Park; Ronaldo, Tévez.

Barça: Valdés 5.5; Zambrotta 6, Puyol 7, Milito 6, Abidal 5; Xavi 6.5, Toure 6.5 (Gudjohnsen m88, --), Deco 6; Messi 8.5, Eto'o 5.5 (Bojan m71, 5.5), Iniesta 6.5 (Henry m60, 5).

Goals: m14 Scholes 1-0,

Yellow Cards: m52 Zambrotta, m54 Deco, m63 Carrick, m68 Ronaldo, m70 Toure.

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FCB
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FCB Wrote: | 05.27CEST | Apr 30, 2008

manchester fans-----good luck in the finals, the best team deserves to be in the finals!

Kiko
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Kiko Wrote: | 05.31CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Good game Barca.. Still love ya but Man Utd #1

glory glory!

blaugranaboy
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blaugranaboy Wrote: | 05.34CEST | Apr 30, 2008

this game almost killed me. i was so nervous and then so furious most the 2nd half. such an inability to score goals. its mindboggling. but i was disgusting with united in general. their tactics, time wasting, not even trying to win with style. i never expected to go through, but i expected to feel we lost to a better team (which they have shown overall this year). but tonight i honestly cannot say we did lose to a superior team. we lost to a superior defense who stopped a team who has forgotten to score goals.

abidal was a total and complete joke. i dont know why he is playing pro football. lets not even get into henry. and what was up with etoo? i expected more from him.

the end of our terrible season. in a way im so damn happy its over. im sick of this pathetic excuse for a blaugrana team.

and being a supporter of frank, i cant see him there next year, he just seems to have lost it. no matter who coaches next year i just hope abidal and henry are shown the door. i wanted to break my tv at times watching those two.

Jay
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Jay Wrote: | 05.37CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Zambrotta played well, I thought. Except for that mistake. Why he didn't pass the ball to Toure or Puyol is something I can't understand.

Typical English football from United. One scorcher from Scholes. They go through, but I'd say that Barca were way more courageous with their attacking football. It's the death of attacking football.

Messi again showed that he is WAY better than Ronaldo. The Portugal man gave a very average performance.

All in all, congrats to wily old Sir Alex Ferguson for masterminding the end of Barca 2007-08 and there is nothing left anymore, except a win over Real Madrid at the Bernabeu. But even that wouldn't easen the pain that we have to live with.

Changes, changes, changes. End of a cycle. Definitely, Frank Rijkaard's era comes to an end. Thank you for everything Frank. You are second best after Johann Cruyff. We will never forget you. And Ronaldinho.

But after all the reasons you take out to analyse this season, it is FOOTBALL that got the better of Barcelona before we could get the better of it. Injuries (especially the ones to Messi who could have made all the difference as he showed today), BAD LUCK (Horrendously unbelievable on so many occasions), players off form, undeserved defeats.

Our season was the dark side of football. The ugly head of the beautiful game.

Jose Mourinho has said that he would like to take over at the club. I only hope the club consider many candidates in this case. Not just blindly give the job to Mourinho.

Forca Barca. Always.

El
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El Wrote: | 05.39CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Blaugranaboy, respect man. These 2 were really cruel to all of us, with such disgusting performance, along with Etoo. No more words to say, I just want to see him go out tommorow!!! I am so frustrated!!!

Bring Mourinho, now!

Liam
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Liam Wrote: | 05.39CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Totally agree with u, so.... amen @blaugranaboy.

Only thing ill add is that in this summer I expect a full renovation, including the president (Laporta has been terrible this past years). Looking forward to elections and having Sandro Rosell in charge.

Jay
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Jay Wrote: | 05.43CEST | Apr 30, 2008

But this wasn't more worse than losing the title last season. NOTHING is worse than that.

Atutupoyoyo
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Atutupoyoyo Wrote: | 05.55CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Thanks for the congrats guys but I have to say that in Lionel Messi you have a future great of world football who will surely lead you to many more Champions league finals. He is one of the greatest players to have graced Old Trafford in my time.

I personally think that Ronaldo has more ability and greater all round strengths to his game but he has far less influence than the Argentine. Don't forget the little man was only half fit as well. The trouble with your Barca team today is that they were perhaps a bit too over-reliant on MEssi. He was the focal point for everything there was no Plan B. Great night for us and well done the Barca fans who were brilliant all night.

Shahenshah
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Shahenshah Wrote: | 05.59CEST | Apr 30, 2008

I already said it before but damn Puyol is my idol. That man is a solid like the rock of gibraltar. Shut down Cronaldo on quite a few occasions and saved Barca in many more.

Messi is phenomenal. He just destroyed man united's defence. Sneaking in between two players again. First leg, it was park and tevez and now it was carrick and park again. He totally tripped out scholes and brown on quite a few occasions.

Saud
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Saud Wrote: | 06.01CEST | Apr 30, 2008

DIE RIJKAARD...... as usual we play good game,, BUT nobody scores,, i think ronaldinho even in his bad performance, he creates chances anytime
HARDLUCK FCB,,,, better luck next season (BARCA 4 EVER )

BarcaboyUK
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BarcaboyUK Wrote: | 06.03CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Jay you must have read my mind, you wrote everything that i was going to say. The only thing i disagreed with you was about Zambrotta. He was awful. check his player rating.LINK

barcelonista
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barcelonista Wrote: | 06.06CEST | Apr 30, 2008

it wasnt a moment of inspiration from scholes. it was a chance and he took it. and that's the difference. but you gotta admit, it's one of the best matches of the season, played by barsa even. if only we showed such character throughout the entire season we wd probably be in contention for the liga. oh well, no silverware will at least allow some major changes to occur over summer and hopefully it'd be good.

do not fret fellow cules, messi is a gem and at the end of the day, thank god he plays for our team. he was totally awesome and as far as 'who's the greatest player on earth' right now - we know it's NOT ronaldo.

Jay
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Jay Wrote: | 06.07CEST | Apr 30, 2008

@Barcaboy UK

Thanks. Don't believe Goal.com so much. Never has a right-back so effectively stopped Ronaldo like Zambrotta did today. I know the mistake makes all the difference. But Zambrotta was good.

Liam
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Liam Wrote: | 06.07CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Atutupoyoyo... Ronaldo is better with the head and at scoring but he hasnt got the talent nor ability Messi has, if he didnt had that speed he wouldnt dribble a chair while Lio bases his dribbling in his exquisite technique (the ball seems to be glued to his foot) and foot work... Ronaldo is easily covered if u win the position (like Zambrota did in 180 mins) while Messi isnt.... In both matches he dribbled and went through 2 or 3 players.... would love to c Cristiano doing that.

Kat
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Kat Wrote: | 06.09CEST | Apr 30, 2008

The referee sucked in this game. He obviously got payed.

Shahenshah
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Shahenshah Wrote: | 06.09CEST | Apr 30, 2008

did anyone see Puyol completely trip out hargreaves two or three times? Damn Puyol is too sick.

blaugranaboy
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blaugranaboy Wrote: | 06.09CEST | Apr 30, 2008

i dont understand what united fans feel the need to come here and post something. we dont care what u have to say. isnt it enough u defendend ur way to a final.

Liam
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Liam Wrote: | 06.15CEST | Apr 30, 2008

let them come, i dont really care, sure they are in the final, but their performance was far from brilliant, Barca owned them... loved to watch 11 red shirts in one half defending and crapping their pants when Barca attacked.

Only 2 teams in europe that are true to their style = Arsenal and Barca.... no matter what, they play the same style and that my friends, is something we should be proud of.

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Hilal Wrote: | 06.28CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Well at least the changes will definitely come now. We played well but as always we are way to predictable. Any decent team with good organization can defend against us. We cannot keep depending on Messi to break down defenses for us.

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Nic Wrote: | 06.29CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Yeah, sorry I should have said before but I've just been on the phone for an hour with a mate who called to commiserate. I should have said congratulations to United, they are a team I have always liked and I hope they go on to win the Premiership and the Champions League. So well done to Atutupoyoyo, Red Ranter, Ahmed, Tom F, and any other United fan reading. I'll be cheering for United on May 21.

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PHaft Wrote: | 06.31CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Just a few comments:

1. We played great tonight, if you forget about our lack of scoring. Man Utd fans can't brag after being outplayed on their own field (I love the shots of the Man U fans biting their nails).

2. When are we going to stop talking about "Bad Luck" ?-- not scoring in 2 games where we had greater than 65% of the possession is not bad luck. Its lack of scoring prowess. When everyone is watching Messi take on 4 defenders, there is a problem. Messi had no one to 1-2 to. Iniesta was dissapointing. Deco always seems too slow nowadays (he can't outrun anyone). United had maybe 2 or 3 chances tonight, and got one goal.

3. As far as the defenders go: Milito was average, Puyol was excellent. Zambrotta I thought played a great game shutting down the overrated C. Ronaldo (he is the biggest crybaby on earth)--except for the giveaway to Scholes. Abidal looks clueless (he needs to find a way to remove his head from his rear end -- maybe there's a surgery for that?)

4. Henry showed no guts tonight, we need to ship his butt back to England.

Let look forward to next season gentlemen (and ladies). Hopefully adding players like Dani Alves, Benzema (?), Diego (?), Modric (?), will help us. I keep saying it -- we need to spend Bayern style this offseason.

FORCA BLAUGRANA!

Tom F
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Tom F Wrote: | 06.36CEST | Apr 30, 2008

For all of Barcelona's amazing attacking ability, they couldn't score. Like Messi, it is talent with no end product.

You can pass the ball all day long, or skip and run rings around defenders but when you don't put the ball in the back of the net more times than your opponents it is talent wekk wasted.

I think Messi is better than Ronaldo on the ball, but Ronaldo is better off of it and when shooting/heading. Ronaldo cannot take players on like Messi at close quarters. They both have pure talent and both have different styles, Messi plays more like Nani, his tricks and dribbling involve contact with the ball whereas Ronaldo does more dummies and step-overs.

38 goals is an important factor for me but I'd like to see Messi and Ronaldo playing together... at United! Still in the next couple of years Messi, if he continues to improve, will win the World Player of the Year award.

Goodnight Barca, Barca goodnight.

Tom F
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Tom F Wrote: | 06.40CEST | Apr 30, 2008

*wekk=well.

I wasted 2 k's :P

Andrei
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Andrei Wrote: | 06.53CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Brilliant game, Barca! Gave us a bloody good scare and you might have gone one better, but I guess it just wasn't your lucky night. Have fun in the summer because there will be a whole lot of renovations made and I am sure you will be back next year. Here is to future meetings!!

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Winterhunt Wrote: | 07.06CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Ok, now that it is officially over, and my heart feels wrecked, I'll bang the drum again......

IN - Jose (Conditioning, mental toughness, demands and expectations and acceptance of nothing less than excellence, A Game Plane, A Backup Plan, Halftime Adjustments, In Game Adjustments, Displays Of Passion On The Sideline, Intensity, Defensive Organisation, Pressure Football (Watch the tapes of Porto if you do not know what this means, I am quite sure if people look at them with an open mind then they will see a lot of beautiful, intense football), WINNING TITLES !!!!!!!) I fully believe (and of course really what do I know, but I do believe Mourinho is the exact right man at the exact right time, Hungry, motivated, probably a bit pissed Grant is advancing onwards and very, very eager to show he can conquer Spain and play attractive football...like I said as have a few others, if you have doubts go watch his Porto Teams... They played beautiful, tough minded football, and eliminated Man U, by the way....... I truly think this idea of him being intimidated by the press or fans is not anything to be concerned about as he thrives on challenges..... I say give him a try... I think everyone will be very happy when we start getting results again, and holding leads, and actually coming from behind to win games.... I also think that if one man can get Ronaldinho back to form it is Jose. I think Ronnie really needs a strong hand, and to be motivated, and I also think you will see a very rejuvinated Deco.... The Country Club atmosphere would be over, and football boot camp would begin... wouldn't it be nice to see everyone give all of themselves ala Puyol & Messi????? With Jose, it is everything or sit on the bench end of discussion. Just my opinion...) OK other in's.... if possible, obviuosly can't get them all, Cech (read a rumour about this), Lahm, Benzema, an in the box striker ala Luca Toni (unlikely) or (yes swallow hard..) Drogba, who can handle a ball in the air, can be in position for a rebound, get the goals that are a bit easier, we play at times like a jump shooting basketball team, and miss so many opportunities for easier goals.... cannot remember the last time we scored of a corner kick or a cross...... There are loads of other names but I would let Mourinho have significant input as I do think he can get Abidal to regain his form, as well as several others...

OUT- Frank (sorry man, I love you, always will but it is time to go, thank you for everything), Titi, the obvious ones Edmilson, Ezquerro, Oleguer etc, and this may surprise but if the price is right Sammy (I still love you but man.... if I could swap him for Benzema, by selling him and buying Benzema, I would . Ronnie if Jose doesn't think he can get him in form and we can get ay least 30 -40 million for him, anything less is an insult.....


I think Benzema is more direct as a striker, and obviously younger, If you had Messi, Bojan, Bemzema, Gio, Drogba (yes I know horrific diver etc but still a rock in the middle of the box who will play for Jose), that is significant.... another defender besides Lahm, Alves unless the price is insane or Garay though his demands are suppossedly really high and now has had a season ending injury.....

Basically, I think we have a very strong core, and some players who have fallen out of form due to poor training habits, and lack of discipline ala Deco, Marquez, Abidal, Millito (to a certain degree).... Bring in Mourinho, and I would bet big money we won't be kissing Real's ring next year, like we will have to do next week... how humiliating..... Jose will never let it happen....... Just one lunatics opinion...... I think We deserve better..... Man, I want to win, and I don't particularly think you can term what we have been doing for the last 18 months as beautiful football, short passes and dominating possesion are nice, but so is scoring goals, and winning leagues, and showing some steely determination... OK, enough of my ramble..... Sorry guys, this one hurt, and honestly, I think despite our undying optimism, in truth we all kind of really saw it coming...... I hate to say it but Man U did what they had to, props to them, no matter how much it hurts.....

Be well all my Barca Brothers......

Andrew
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Andrew Wrote: | 07.09CEST | Apr 30, 2008

this was so frustrating to watch. when scholes scored i literally felt sick...i thought we played well but we just couldn't finish anything. and poor messi...all that great football and he kept getting so little help up front. what was up with eto'o??

at the risk of being redundant i thought zambrotta did well (except of course that fatal pass) shutting down c. ronaldo. i took a lot of satisfaction from watching that. puyol is so harsh too i love that guy. we have such a baller team it's too bad we couldn't make anything happen this season!!! keep the faith though

Andy
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Andy Wrote: | 07.46CEST | Apr 30, 2008

There is something wonderful though about Paul Scholes - best and most under-rated player in England of his generation. Missed out in 1999 and deserves his place in 2008.

Barca had all control of game up to penalty box but never realy looked like scoring thoruogh two legs - and given the skill on offer and the made up nature of Utd's defence that is pretty poor reflection. Yes Messi is great, possibly very great but at the end of it all, one surendered 75% of poccession over the two legs but never seriously lookeclike like conceeding. Maybe an anathema to the English game but its a siniifcant victory for Ferguson and his tactics if not for footbal.

Hi Nick, Hi Antonia

bobkat
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bobkat Wrote: | 09.27CEST | Apr 30, 2008

eto'o had to be big tonight, and he was a non factor.

henry we should all have expected to be useless.

the defense we all knew would make mistakes.

the substitutions we all knew would be worthless and poorly timed.

with all of those things we still only lost 1-0 and had many chances to go through. united were quite poor if you ask me, and if they can't convincingly beat a shit form barca they are going to have problems in the final.

For us now we have the green light to restructure. Next year will be painful again, and we will have a poor chance at any trophy but the system needs to change, the players need to change, and then maybe the year after we can try for another double.

Taron
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Taron Wrote: | 10.12CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Last itme I was here there were discent comments and all, but now bashing ManUtd all over the place. 1st of all Ronaldo VS Messi. Stats aside, which no one can argue against. Ronaldo had a major role in our goal and created to chances (Tevez and Park) way better then anything Barca created in 2 legs. Messi passed Scholes and park many times, but created one shot outside the box. That's it nothing else. Man Utd playing deffencively. Well this was surely the case at Nou Camp no arguement there. I hated it...I thought they gave your team to much respect, but there is nothing we can do. It was different at OT we played attacking, but cautiose got our goal and still created better chances then Barca did. If Park or Nani were better finishers the game would have ended in 1st half. Well if you were 1:0 up, I am sure you would play the same way. You might be right that Messi had a better game then Ronaldo, but football is not a 1 man game and our team plyed better than yours and that's why we won. You say we were lucky, but I disagree I say if we were lucky the score should have been 3:0 and Ronaldo should have scored the penalty.
P.S. I hope you are ready for the biggist humilation waiting you at Bernabeo.

Varughese
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Varughese Wrote: | 11.52CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Finally this season is over.

Messi clearly proved that he is the world's best.
Tom F: Messi is serious talent with enough goals in his bags. If you compare Ronaldo and Messi, Ronaldo never comes good against good opponents, whereas Messi do. Yes he may not have created a goal in the two legs, its basically because he was not supported well by his team mate.

Congrats to ManU. But I seriously doubt your chances in Moscow. First the turf will not allow your kind of football( not showed against Barca). If you stick to the same style like the Barca matches, the other two teams are pioneer of that styles.

How about bringing Henk ten Cate as coach. He may not have great reputation as coach, but has immense man managing skills. And remember out team started to fall apart the moment he left.

Rafael
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Rafael Wrote: | 11.58CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Im not sure if it is the end of Rijkaard..

I don't think Ronaldinho will be sold either, he just needs a fresh start a new year. I hope he stays on.

I dont think Barcelona will make many transfers or signings in the window, I think they are more likely to sign more defenders.

Mourinho just might be the thing the club needs.

layi
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layi Wrote: | 12.07CEST | Apr 30, 2008

its so sad...the demise

Liam
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Liam Wrote: | 12.12CEST | Apr 30, 2008

For what I read Barca will sign Coloccini (I think he is terrible) and Alves deal is almost closed.

About Benzema.... havent seen much of him and truth is I wouldnt like Barca paying 50 million for a youngster, way better to play Bojan and bring in a striker like Villa (Valencia will sell him this summer).

Ronaldinho aint gonna be the same player he was 3 years ago, at least not in Barca, he wants to leave, so, they should let him go. Marquez, Henry, Abidal, Thuram, Oleguer, Guddy and Gio should leave aswell. I like Etoo, but he has a big mouth, he already stated that if Barcelona gets another trophyless season he will leave so.... if someone pays 30+ million for him I say we wrap him and send him with a ty note =P

Deco.... ever since he came ive thought of him as a key player in our team, would like him to stay but his season has been terrible.... if Mourinho lands in "can barca" he will prolly stay, if not, i say he has 75% chances of leaving.

I like Mourinhos iron fist style, but despite what uve posted winter, Porto didnt play nice football very often, they were a really good/solid team with good players that could create some awesome stuff but their strat was to wait for the other team to screw and take advantage of this (just like blues). If he is willing to change this and embrace Barcelonas philosophy I would be pleased to have him here.

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Joe Henry Wrote: | 12.50CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Rise Fans. I truly Expected it. Maybe in the first moment when the match ended I was furious. Then I got to say under Frank I expected every second. When you have the worst coach in the world you have to expect it. I said it when we began those comic draws. All you fans attacked me saying he is resting for this game, I keep on saying Frank is the worst thing ever. I hate to tell you I told you so. But it would have helped you to expect such result from a coach who from where I stand it should only flip burgers now not coach the greatest team in the world. Henry should have never played the last league game. When you rest the main team as say that Henry is not one of the players you rest you can't expect him to play well no can you. Henry needs fame. Look I can talk for hours about Frank's mistake's ; I said it before, I can write a dam book about it ( Which I'm sure will be a best seller in Barcelona ).As for today, Here the sun is shinning and I'm hoping when I read Fcbarcelona.com or Goal.com later this evening I will see the sliver lining that is FRANK YOUR FIRED. AHH oh HAAPY DAY

FCB
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FCB Wrote: | 13.09CEST | Apr 30, 2008

BARCAA!! its ok, im hopeful about next yr whether rijkaard is the coach or not.

Joe Henry
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Joe Henry Wrote: | 13.14CEST | Apr 30, 2008

I'm not gonna watch Barca if Frank is the coach next year. It's predictable, very predictable. Always going to be Barca fan. But I hat watching games I know there end. Last night after the first goal. It was a flash back when I really knew that the League is over. Madrid game that was. That night I knew we will not score and the game will end as it did.

Joe Henry
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Joe Henry Wrote: | 13.15CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Hate*

Matthew
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Matthew Wrote: | 13.40CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Barca need to play as a team… that is the only thing that differs from what Real have at the moment, they dont have 1/4th of the talent we possess, but, somehow, the team just cannot deliver as a team…. My best wishes and good luck…

Winterhunt
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Winterhunt Wrote: | 13.48CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Liam, I totally agree on Coloccini..... I'm sure, knowing that Mourinho Coached Barca B, and also made a presentation to several board members with Dvd's of clips from our games, the flaws, his corrections etc, that he is as aware of Barca's philosophy as we are if not more so as he actually worked within it.... He also knows (as he is not an ignorant man) that he must play attractive football, and I'm quite sure, he is sick and tired of having this "He can't play attractive football rep", I believe he plays with the players he has and their stengths.... He has never had talent like Messi, Bojan, Iniesta etc at his disposal. I truly think that he would bring the best of both worlds, discipline which we are dying for, as well as a strategic mind.... I can guarantee you this, there is no way he will go games on end without adjustments, playing players out of position until they lost their confidence, and teams can make statements like Fergie did, prior to todays match that "Everyone knows how Barcelona plays, they just pass it around a thousand times but do not really attack the box", and Damn it if he wasn't right...... Honestly, how could we be worse????? I can't really see this year as an example of attractive football on our part, and it really would be nice to actually get results that are at least somewhat in keeping with the level of talent we have...... nice to see Messi & Mourinho doing commercials together to, so that they have a relationship, though I will say I cannot recall any of Mourinho's players who weren't fiercely loyal to him and him to them when they gave full effort... He won't abide by anything less than full effort..... To me that at this moment is the most important thing...... He'll play attractive football, you can't help but do it with guys like Messi etc, in fact Frank probably got them to play as unatractive and predictable brand of football that is possible with his players do to his and subsuquently their totally dispassionate effort..... Basically Frank just threw the ball out there and hoped that the players natural creativity would carry us through, this worked when Ronnie was at his supernatural level, but as soon as he tailed off, Frank had no other ideas, no adjustments, and really was exposed on many occasions as being lacking in both preperation, tactics, motivation, discipline, and adjustments.... Look Frank had a great run.... I think it would be a mistake to not hire the best possible coach..... I honestly don't think there is anyone out there even close, and he wants to come here, already has worked here, already speaks Castillian...... They guy will absolutely succeed..... Wouldn't it be great to be able to thrash Real again?????? Win the Liga?????? Not be handled by Fergie or Benitez ????? We need a coach with some guts...... I believe so at least....... Let Pep be his assistant and you get two football minds, two tough minded football minds.... I got so sick of hearing how we were outtoughed by Man U on every broadcast tonight, and in all honsty they were right... they got the result, they got the goal, they got the win, they got to go to Moscow, we got more possesion...... not so beautiful to me....... We'll see..... I think he is our best bet..... God knows we need something.....

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borakmanutd.com Wrote: | 14.28CEST | Apr 30, 2008

i agree Messi is better than Ronaldo, but in football the who dribble is not better than the goals scorer

Messi's strong side: only dribbling and can take on anyone

Ronaldo's strong side: dribbling but as good as Messi, scoring with power, heading and freekicks

watch ronaldo goal freekick goal here:
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now you judge the freekick? any player in the world can do that??
Ronaldinho?? NO.

Good Luck to Barca for the rest of the season

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BARCA 4 LYF Wrote: | 14.59CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Atleast that dopey S.O.B (C.Ronaldo) didn't score!!!

FCB
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FCB Wrote: | 15.00CEST | Apr 30, 2008

does ronaldo shave his eyebrows??

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Sedin_sarajevo Wrote: | 15.52CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Barca needs to change their style of playing,94th minute and milito plays the ball back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I hope Barca can get back on track with a new coach,some new players,and perhaps a new Ronaldinho(eventhough I can't really see anyone who can replace him.He was all that we needed in past 180 minutes against man utd,cuz I believe that he could have made a difference.

29.04.2008.-The end of a great era,Ronnie thanks for everything....

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k9 Wrote: | 15.53CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Ah. The Messi/Ronaldo debate rages on. The two aren''t in the same league. One is a master of close control and quick, agile movement while the other has priceless skill with the ball both on the ground and in the air, and the presence physically to take on a tough nut.
How do they compare? They don't. Messi looks a lot more scintillating because he takes on 2-3 defenders and beats them. Ronaldo's brilliance shows through with some exquisite cross, or header or a freekick that leaves the best of keepers gog eyed.

Jay
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Jay Wrote: | 16.00CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Don't decide Ronaldo's brilliance on his ability with free kicks and headers.

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Caleb Wrote: | 17.04CEST | Apr 30, 2008

I feared this was coming. Though, the foresight hasn't made it any easier to take. It's not just the team I follow losing to another team; it is a clash of vying philosophies of soccer in which the one that I cherish crumbled. I like to believe that playing beautiful, technical, connected football is the game at its best. Perhaps its a reflection of a deeper conviction that - in general - beauty, bravery, and intelligence triumph over methodical calculations and sterile arithmetic. It is days like today that shake this notion.

It's tough to swallow. Barça imposed their style, but were poorly rewarded for it. One black mark on an otherwise impressive game saw Zambrotta give Scholes a chance. It was a chance he took well.

But it is poppycock to say that Man U made more valuable opportunities for themselves over the two legs. Scholes' crack at goal was no more promising than several hit by Deco and the one tried by Toure. It just so happens that he hit his menacingly (which is something that both Deco and Toure have done in the past. No one can guarantee they'll have an amazing strike. Scholes just had that one out of 50 hit this time).

Nani's header...Milito had a great chance with a header as did Henry. And for Park's attempt (which, if he wouldn't have put wide of the post, he would somehow have had to kick it through Milito), we can think of all the times that Eto'o should have shot and been more decisive, but failed to. Teves forced Valdez to make a good save...but Messi brought the same out of Van der Sar. Barça had more shots, more shots on goal, more possession. Barça were the more dangerous, they just lacked the razor edge when it came to finishing. Which, unfortunately for us, is a crucial part.

So, for those of us that love the beautiful game, where do we go from here? Do we hope for Frank to be fired? Do we sell off the bad apples? I say it should be one or the other, but not both. Frank has shown that he is great with passionate, motivated players (Messi, Puyol, Bojan, Iniesta...). He can mold them into inspiring footballers. The problem is, he seems unable to motivate the lethargic. So, we must either scrap the lazy players and bring in some with more hunger, or we need someone to motivate and discipline the waning talents on the team. I think doing one or the other gives us a chance at wining next season. However, if we do both, I am a bit wary that it will simply be too much change in too little time.

Although this season has left a putrid smell in my nostrils, I still cling to the style of football that defines Barça. I am sure that, given time, we will again prove ourselves to be truly great.

PS - Tom F, what are you saying? That Messi doesn't score goals because he hasn't had a 38 goal season...Oh wait, he tore his hamstring twice. But, with the form he was in before being injured, I wouldn't be surprised if he was pushing a similar number. He was unbelievable at the beginning of the season (not just dribbling and controlling the ball, but finishing well, and finishing often). Ronaldo has been fortunate not to pick up any injuries this season. He is great, yes. But Roma and Barça both seemed to contain him quite well, apart from the one header he had. He needs space because his game is built on his speed; take away that space, and he whithers...

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Taras Wrote: | 17.05CEST | Apr 30, 2008

I didn't like the game. Look at the way Manchester played, they were running all the time, putting pressure on our players. And Barca made so many mistakes in defence. Unbelievable.

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MIssa Wrote: | 19.22CEST | Apr 30, 2008

I m a big Barca fan and I m so hurt deep inside after another trophyless seasen .
Football is a very simple sport ,you cannot win if you dont score ....... it was nothing to do with luck ,our team failed to find the back of the net in the last 5 hours , we could not even score against team like Getafe and Espanyol , we are lacking the ability to score and United knew that .
I dont know if it is the board , the coach or the players but many changes should be made next year .
Just filling so bad about players like Messi and Puyol , they are so devoted and never give up till the very last moment , I want to thank you all for this site ,I found it few weeks ago , I really love it coz it is the only way you can express yourself as a true Barca fan .
At the end, I wanna say that the best team won and we are out again , the rest is gossip .

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MIssa Wrote: | 19.29CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Ronaldo is soooooooooooo overrated .

michelle_ronaldo@yahoo.com
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michelle_ronaldo@yahoo.com Wrote: | 21.30CEST | Apr 30, 2008

great game yesterdai

michelle_ronaldo@yahoo.com
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michelle_ronaldo@yahoo.com Wrote: | 21.31CEST | Apr 30, 2008

great game played yesterdai

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MRSz.Ronaldo7 Wrote: | 21.33CEST | Apr 30, 2008

i like both teamsz so i couldnt decide on what team but u no man utd had luck and it would of been a closed game but barcas defence made a mistake

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BARCA 4 LYF Wrote: | 22.18CEST | Apr 30, 2008

LINK Is there alrady some changes???

BARCA 4 LYF
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BARCA 4 LYF Wrote: | 22.19CEST | Apr 30, 2008

LINK Is there already some changes???

BARCA 4 LYF
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BARCA 4 LYF Wrote: | 22.19CEST | Apr 30, 2008

Sorry I posted twice by accident!!

BARCA 4 LYF
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BARCA 4 LYF Wrote: | 22.28CEST | Apr 30, 2008

LINK Earlier (today) Goal.com published this atricle's title as Milito: We are really p***d off but now they've changed it!!!

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Massimo Acheru Wrote: | 22.49CEST | Apr 30, 2008

I just cant imagine we lost to a team like Manchester, they are strong but not to Barca the spanish Gaint, we played virtually everything but it was really obvious that we had a dead attacking force. Leo Messi to me has proven to everyone that he is the best, hes always breaking through the manutd defense. well, we played well generally but the big question, Was Rijkaard really watching the Match? Was he really paying attention? He should atleast started Henry and Eto since he knew we needed goals to make us go through. Valdes was really wonderful but he still has a lot of job to do, he's a goal keeper not a mid-fielder. I saw the goal Edwin Van Dar Sar saved yesterday and it was really obious that he was a very good keeper. Valdes has not been good to us this season and I just hope that who so ever that is coming after Rijkaard will do something. We really messed up not scoring at home and we did the worst not even scoring away goals. This year, no trophies, no glory and the worst, we're no. 3 on La liga table. Too poor. Rijkaard has to leave and a decision must be made about valdes. Long live Barcelona..

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Joe Henry Wrote: | 23.05CEST | Apr 30, 2008

They didn't fire frank. I really really want him out TODAY not tomorrow not the end of the season but today right now right this second. But it might be fun to see on Valencia's game the entire Camp Nou with white flags up.

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Mike M Wrote: | 23.27CEST | Apr 30, 2008

well now that the season is over, changes are gonna happen, so the board must get into gear and listen to the fans and bring in who we want... start making changes now!!!

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Nic Wrote: | 00.07CEST | May 1, 2008

@ Joe Henry
With all respect I cannot understand how a Barça fan can say " But it might be fun to see on Valencia’s game the entire Camp Nou with white flags up."
What is fun about this? If fans do it out of anger or frustration then fair enough. I wish that the so-called fans who do it for fun would go and support someone else. They are a part of the problem.

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Hilal Wrote: | 00.20CEST | May 1, 2008

Nic i think he was being sarcastic.....I could be wrong, but it doesnt seem like any Barca fan could enjoy something like that.

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FCB - Canada Wrote: | 00.42CEST | May 1, 2008

Forget about flags. It will be interesting to see what the size of the crowds at the Nou camp will be now, even though there are just 2 games left at home.

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Sedin_sarajevo Wrote: | 01.26CEST | May 1, 2008

29.04.2008- the end of a great era.Ronnie thanks for everything ...
Barca-Mes que un club

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Shahenshah Wrote: | 01.27CEST | May 1, 2008

I like how man united fans believe their performance was amazing. The only goal they scored was a solo effort particularly handed to them by zambrotta's foolish mistake. Apart from that the team didnt really do anything either.

You could say Barcelona's chances, although statistically much higher, were tame then it can also be argued that Barcelona pretty much tamed the great Man united's attack force for the most part of the game. Man united barely got a sniff of the ball. I thought it would be different in old trafford but it was still the same as Camp Nou.

What happened to claims of Man united thrashing Barcelona? What happened to Cronaldo scoring goals this game? Was he even alive?

Barcelona had many chances but couldnt really score. Not really that surprising. Why? Track back in history to a couple of games before this one and you will learn that Barcelona is going through a goal drought. Was Man united's defence amazing or was it that Barcelona couldnt find water to end their drought as always? You be the judge.

I am not taking anything away from Scholes' exquisite strike but keep in mind that an on form premier league leaders with supposedly the best player in the world, were pretty much pinned in their own half, balancing on their back foot trying to stop a shaky third placed team in la liga for majority of the game. That should be a lesson to everyone before you underestimate Barcelona and claim they are going to be thrashed by anyone.

Good luck in the future.

BARCA 4 LYF
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BARCA 4 LYF Wrote: | 02.28CEST | May 1, 2008
Tom F
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Tom F Wrote: | 02.54CEST | May 1, 2008

Hey... some of you Barcelona supporters are getting confused and making me confused in the process. Here's why:

My original comment:

"For all of Barcelona’s amazing attacking ability, they couldn’t score. Like Messi, it is talent with no end product.

You can pass the ball all day long, or skip and run rings around defenders but when you don’t put the ball in the back of the net more times than your opponents it is talent wekk wasted.

I think Messi is better than Ronaldo on the ball, but Ronaldo is better off of it and when shooting/heading. Ronaldo cannot take players on like Messi at close quarters. They both have pure talent and both have different styles, Messi plays more like Nani, his tricks and dribbling involve contact with the ball whereas Ronaldo does more dummies and step-overs".


VARUGHESE:

"Tom F: Messi is serious talent with enough goals in his bags. If you compare Ronaldo and Messi, Ronaldo never comes good against good opponents, whereas Messi do"

CALEB:

"PS - Tom F, what are you saying? That Messi doesn’t score goals because he hasn’t had a 38 goal season…Oh wait, he tore his hamstring twice. But, with the form he was in before being injured, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was pushing a similar number. He was unbelievable at the beginning of the season (not just dribbling and controlling the ball, but finishing well, and finishing often). Ronaldo has been fortunate not to pick up any injuries this season. He is great, yes. But Roma and Barça both seemed to contain him quite well, apart from the one header he had. He needs space because his game is built on his speed; take away that space, and he whithers…".

So, basically you are repeating what I said and are using it in an attempt to still persuade me that Messi is better. I understand you will be biased due to the fact you all support FCB but you just cannot deny the fact that the world of football bases its views on WHAT happens, not WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN. I said Messi is better at dribbling, he's way better. He is not mor e of a threat though. Messi may get 38 goals next season, who knows. Being injured has meant he didn't compete with Ronaldo on an individual level. You can argue all day that he was injured, that is the life. Next year he may do as well as Ronaldo did this year. All the arguments that Barcelona and Roma (2 of the worlds best teams may I add) stop Ronaldo playing, well yes, I'd expect that to a certain extent. Ronaldo has still scored 3 goals against Roma.

Shahenshah:

Just lose gracefully mate. PLEASE! You, as a supporter of Barcelona should know fully well that your beloved team put in 2 of their best performences in months against United. I know as well as anybody what a great attacking team they are, but you claim going through a goal drought is an excuse? It just adds up to the fact that your team weren't very good where it mattered. Manchester United have also been going through a bit of a rough patch. It happens in football. How has anyone ever underestimated Barcelona? You are hardly an under dog are you?

Manchester United have had similar problems agianst teams with a lot less ability than Barca this season. By the way, it was a run by Ronaldo that got the ball at Paul Scholes' feet.. WHAT A GOAL! You say handed to Scholes by a foolish mistake. What about the top quality strike from 25yards? Did you think to mention that?

No hard feelings. Just show some grace.

PS:

Follow, Follow, Follow >>> Cos United are going to Moscow!!!

Thanks for the great blogs and coverage Nic, I shall now disappear!

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Joe Henry Wrote: | 05.18CEST | May 1, 2008

@ Nic. You miss understood you. Your correct it did sound wired. I didn't mean its fun for any fan to be angry with there coach. I just want to see Frank humiliated to the lowest possible level. Fun was extremely the wrong word to use. I truly understand you concern. Frank should be gone ! But before he goes he should know why ! That is all what I'm saying. Yet Nic I Fear it wont take place. After seeing a video on Goal.com featuring Laporta. I think he STILL think again before firing him. If Frank is to coach next year it would truly be the worst nightmare ! Do you have any news concerning this btw :O !

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RMF Wrote: | 21.19CEST | May 1, 2008

Those ratings are poor. Abidal 5? He’s your best DEFENDER (read, defender) by far. With Lahm instead of him, you’d have conceded at least another goal.
He isn’t much offensively and has forgotten his crossing boots at home BUT heck, with Barca’s paper thin defense taken into consideration, we can ignore that.
Iniesta equall to Xavi? Don’t see how, Iniesta was ineffective all night, gave the ball away. Iniesta in general, goes missing in big games, this one was no exception.
You fail to realise that the back 4’s main priority is defense that includes the fullbacks. In defense, Barca has done well, appart from Zambrotta who cost the goal, which is why he deserves the lowest rating.
Most Barca fans live in a dream world were they could afford playing the likes of Lahm and Alves instead of Abidal and Zambro. The reason Barca would fail with that team is because both “fullbacks” would get found out defensively, esp. since little support comes fom midfield.
You have to accept, the midfield brings little support to defense and as long as that’s the case, you’ll need players like Abidal to keep things tight at the back, even if they sometimes look poor on the ball.
If Zambrotta leaves as he should, then try to bring Sagna or Clerc or heck even Grosso. Those players know how to defend. Or you could bring in Poulsen, then you could afford attacking fullbacks.

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