Saturday, 05 July 08, 12:07 PM · Comments (46)
Tomorrow is a big day for Football Club Barcelona. Tomorrow is when Barça's members have their say on the vote of no confidence against Joan Laporta and his board of directors. If two-thirds vote against Laporta it will bring to an end his time as the club president and new presidential elections will be held. According to polls in El Sport and El Mundo Deportivo it is looking uncomfortably close for Laporta.
Admittedly the people who vote in these polls are not necessarily members of the club, but any result that gives over 50% against Laporta will leave the club in an unstable position. I find it hard to believe how a lot of Barça fans react every time the team goes through a lean period. I'm not a big fan of Laporta myself, I just feel he has done a pretty good job of rescuing the club from the dire position it was in back in 2003. Granted the team hasn't won anything for two seasons and this is frustrating for all of us, but action has been taken with a change of coach and it now seems that the team will become a team again and not just a group of big names.
This week Barça announced profits for last season of €10.1 million which is the fifth successive year with profits, the club still has big debts since the Gaspart years but at least the present board seems to have things under control.
I feel it is vital for the club that Laporta wins tomorrow or we could see the club go through a difficult period not unsimilar to when Nuñez was forced to leave.
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Laporta already lost, over 9000 members signed to start the vote of no confidence, this numbers speak for themselves, the social mass is unhappy and it has spoken and trust me, it has nothing to do with 2 trophiless seasons, it has to do with how things have been done/undone in all sections, in how the board manipulates information, in how the "circulo virtuoso" became a "circulo vicioso"
Most polls give him 50% of votes, he wont be kicked out, but he will know his time has come.
Anyway most of the people who support Laporta = nationalists, how are they gonna let go a president that claims that Catalunya is a country between Spain and France, that ends most of his speeches with a "Visca Catalunya Lliure" and so on...
Wouldnt care about his political views if he was an average Joe but he is not, he is Barcelonas president and all this affects the club, as ive stated in other posts, the moment he started to look at Barca as his political platform and positioned himself above right or wrong the club started to fall apart, he is the one to be held responsible for the new social fracture among members.
YES TO THE VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE!
That’s the problem with in out support, a certain element of the fan base have shorter memories than any other club on earth. Surely people can see past the propaganda El Mundo and Sport are publishing in front of our faces. The worlds press claim we're some kind of corrupted un-democratic organisation which is completely untrue, being a Soci for 3 years and I had to endure the suffering under the Gaspart era, I've got nothing but praise for Laporta and the current board. Logically every presidency has it's falls and this one isn't any different from the pervious, our board has made mistakes but it's been completely blown out of proportion!
Just compare the clubs expansion with in this regime 60,000 more members, the economics with in the club €380m turnover expected from this current campaign, more than any of sports club on earth never mind football. The fifth consecutive year our economy's up. In Nunez's first 10 years as president we won only half the amount Laporta has won in half the time period. We see the significant change when Cruyff comes to management in 1988, the sole man that made the Nunez era as hyped up as it was, was Johan Cruyff! The same man who's influence with in our board room is being questioned today, I've heard fans chanting "Johan Cruyff Fill De Puta" a Catalan term meaning Cruyff you're a son of a whore, which just clearly demonstrates the lack of loyalty, commitment or generally knowledge of the clubs past from this certain element of the fan base, which I've got to stress I'm ashamed of and so should any Cule! Facts speak louder than statements, 2 league titles, a champions league, 2 super cups, the fight against mindless neo-Nazi and right-wing promoting hooligans in the club, our solidarity links with Unicef and numerous charitable organisations, some of the greatest quality of football seen in the game I'd describe it as Joga Bonito, the strongest economics in sport, the expansion of club both on a national and largely international level, the increase in club members, heavily needed improvements to Camp Nou, maintaining our historical traditions remain the Catalan club with the "Tant Se Val D'on Venim" sprit. I could continue these reasons why to show you're support towards our president, the same man that fought for a better club for every single Culé on earth, the man that fought fascists putting his own life in danger for the safety of our families at Camp Nou, the man that actually fought a corrupted presidency for years ultimately becoming victorious!
"Why does barca self destruct after a great and succeful period?"
Gotta be the smartest thing I've heard all week. :)
Im gonna simplify it for everyone. FC Barcelona under Laporta = 4yrs
2 history making years + 1 not bad year + 1 bad yr = good and bad level each other out. Let the board do their job. New coach, new players, give them a fresh slate and jusge them on the basis of the next 2 years.
For you ABSOLUTE IDIOT's who haven't a f*cking clue about football look at Manchester United. 2004-2006 won nothing. Manager under pressure, board aswell. They let the team grow, re-built and adapted. 2007, won the premier league and performed well in the fa cup and champions league. 2008 - won the premier league, won the champions league, somehow lost the fa cup. A team naturally goes through cycles. Just because Barca are starting a new one doesnt mean you press the panic button. We have the quality of players, a fresh dedicated coach, backing from the board, one of the most sybolic, economically stable clubs in world football.
Voting to vote the board out will destroy it all. Think first before you risk everything on sunday.
DON'T VOTE AGAINST LAPORTA! He needs to stay. How can we expect the team to be unified in a goal if we as fans abandon all hope in our administration at the first sign of turmoil or demise.
If we want the team to be unified, we have to be unified as well and stop being ridiculous about a mediocre and bad season. Good Lord this is frustrating.
To add to that I hate some of the sales and buys of the management,like selling etoo for adebayor for even 35million pounds? crazy
C, u guys are the ones that dont know whats going on, u think this is about titles and it isnt!
There has been way worst periods when it comes to "not winning trophies", people are pissed cuz Amic Jan is the biggest liar on earth, one day he is posing with spanish fans and a spanish flag on the back, saying how proud he is about Spain winnin the euro, and the other he is saying VISCA CATALUNYA LLIURE, one day he says they will never sign players that left Barca for other club (Fabregas, Merida, etc) the other he is presenting Pique, one day he says he is gonna expose Gasparts administration, the other he goes silent and says it is better to let go, one day 10 years ago when he promoted a vote of no confidence against Nuñez he said this was the true greatness of Barcelona, being a democratic club where people could speak for themselves, today, he claims this is the worst move ever, that it will paralise the club (although estatutos protect the club and allow employees to do their job, so yeah, if they have to sign players they can!)... NO MORE LIES LAPORTA!
Also, its not like if Laporta leaves Boixos will return to the stadi. If the club under Laporta has such a large budget is thanks to the investments Nuñez did, want me to remind me how Joan said he would never sell clubs assets yet he did? Also, if the club is so rich, how come they havent started the stadium remodelation? cuz theres no money to do so!
Titi, u make no sense at all, u use MU as an example when its impossible to compare any club to the devils, they have had a manager for 20+ years ffs, they aint a club where members can vote something, may i recall what happened when Glazer bought the club? yeah, some fans started another club cuz they didnt want the yank in, so, stop pretending to know anything about Barcelona, english clubs are mere toys where investors/rich guys can do as they please, Barca isnt. How can a cycle finish in 2 years when u have the best players at their prime? Even Laporta said he expected at least 4 years of success with this guys in, so now whos the one who knows nothing about football? How could u even compare MU during those seasons to Barcelona? would love to c what would have happened at United if they had had the squad cules had and didnt win silverware for 2 seasons.
Finally, Barcelona aint only a Football club, there are other sections, and Laporta has taken to oblivion Basketball and Handball, why? cuz he doesnt gives a damn about them and instead of hiring professionals he names his buddies/relatives section directors.
GO ROSELL!
Liam, why is Titi wrong in comparing Barca to United? They aren't very different. Other than the politics involved, they are not very different. I totally support Laporta, till death, though some of his escapades are not speaking about, no prez in the world is capable of being perfect. But on the other hand, Laporta has done so much for the club, he brought the club to new levels of greatness and what does he get in return? Yes, what wrong has Laporta done? Rijkaard's football was amazing, amazing players are signed every season, and for some reasons, the team didnt quiet play to its full potential. Is Laporta the only one to blame? NO! How much can a president do? Really is it his fault that henry who scored 30 goals in epl failed to score that many in spain? Is it his fault Messi was injured for half of the season, is it his fault that Sammy goes on blabbering with that big unhealthy mouth of his, is it his fault that Ronnie decides to party all night, is it his fault that despite scoring 2 goals, the other team came from behind and won? No none of these are his fault. He really has done everything he could, signed a new manager, got good talented players, ok the hand ball and basketball is something which I never followed, so I wont comment. But other than that, I always liked Laporta.
Barcelona has always been one of the biggest teams in the world, but truthfully, faithfulness and loyalty is something that needs to be learnt, not to mention patience, because, I mean,if the Barcelona fans were patient, then without a doubt, they would be the greatest ever, I feel spanish fans in general, are very impatient. Because, such on the heat actions make mistakes and that destroys team morale, destroys club politics, leads to unstability. Madrid had a similar situation, then they brought good players, no big names but decent players and made a champions team based on that. Laporta has done the same thing, such stuff goes in cycles, teams win lose, its not gonna be winning everytime, that isnt football.
liam....just plz calm down....Titi isnt laporta....he wants laporta to continue tho and u have to start respecting other ppls opinions....we are all barca fans and there is no need for this, u can criticize laporta all u want but u cant say something like : dont pretend like u know anything about barcelona....i bet that u dont even know Titi personally so stop making babyish claims.....and gd luck to u in life.
Titi said:
"For you ABSOLUTE IDIOT’s who haven’t a f*cking clue about football look at Manchester United. 2004-2006 won nothing."
Dont ask me to calm down when he said people didnt know about football cuz they criticized Barcas past 2 seasons! Also, I can make that statement, him not knowing FCB, cuz he tried comparing 2 different situations and 2 different clubs, MU will never have the relevance Barcelona has, cuz it doesnt represent a culture nor a way of living.
Morzzan, u cant compare them cuz they are miles away from each other, MU can be bought, Barca cant, Barcelona has a social mass behind, MU doesnt, and then again, ur focusing EVERYTHING into football and Barcelona aint only that, there are other SECTIONS!
Laporta is to blame for what i said, the social discontent and not being able to manage one of the best squads this football team has ever had, wether it was by backing up Rijkaard when he shouldnt, for not suspending players when they were supposed to or cuz he was happy about this "autogestion" where players did as they wanted. For not taking seriously other sections, for naming his buddies/relatives directors, for making Barca his political platform, for being a hypocrite, for lying about almost everything!
Finally, how many times do I have 2 repeat myself? this is not about 2 trophiless seasons, but how Laporta and his board are managing the club and themselves.
YES 2 THE VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE!
"MU can be bought, Barca cant, Barcelona has a social mass behind, MU doesnt, and then again" so? Does that make it any less of a football club than Barcelona? No. Even though I still stand firm on my support of Laporta, I do agree with you on that line, " this is not about 2 trophiless seasons, but how Laporta and his board are managing the club and themselves." this line is completely 100% true.
im rootin for Rosell, ronnie cant leave just yet. total agreement with liam
in my opinion i think the point lost in all of this is that rijkaard and a handful of players were probably more to blame for last season's mess rather than the board - the board are the scapegoat in this sordid affair and it doesn't seem fair that they should be held completely accountable for the trophy-less seasons...if it wasn't for laporta we'd be in a far worse predicament - financially as well as in sporting terms...the signings so far this season as well as guardiola's appointment cement the future plans of the technical and coaching staff and i honestly believe we'll do a double of some sort this season and then we'll see how quickly we'll forget the last two seasons...
but if Rosell is president he may keep buying brazilians edu and gilberto silva anyone??
you're a little too militant 'barca 4 lyf'! some barca members/fans should think with their heads sometimes rather than with their hearts!
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it's first time i see some people mixed football and politics.
football is type of intertainment so plz don't mixed football with politics.
so every thing would be good as soon as possible.
i am one of the funs of FCB.
i am prefer laporta to continue his working, i am not laporta fun,but it's dificult to say good bay laporta.
so let's hope the best thing.
I guess what liam is trying to say is that fcb is more than just a futbol club. Its an undying symbol for the people of catalunya, which is why its much different than man united.
It's a high turnout, over 35,000 have voted. i need to go out this evening but I'll report on the result when I get in.
No for the vote of No Confidence. But Yes for the elections. Let me explain more. Win or lose this is for Barca's best. If Laporta wins today he will know that he is not free to go 2 seasons without one achievement and feel like the fans are ok with it, NO we are not. If he loses well even thou I am a huge fan of the club but the people there ( Like you Nic ) Know best. I mean you guys must see and hear millions of stuff more than us ( fans who are not living in Barcelona ). I see this as a good thing. Either way we win ( As Fans ). We can only hope for the best after all. But if i was there i would Vote for Laporta, He has done great as head of Barca. He is doing the best he can as Singings of players and managers. So Frank screwed up, No one expected he would be a very bad that when he had a dream team he would lose every thing, NO one. We all figured it was just the players. I think Laporta is doing a great job, but this elections will never hurt us. Well that is what I think
Though I dont think Rossell would be very much into Edu and Gilberto Silva, there are really amazing players like Diego in the Brazilian squad. May be, he might be the first to arrive incase Rossell wins.
I don't think laporta is gona make it, the sins and fortunes of a democratic club
It looks like about 60% members voted for yes. So even if Laporta survives this, tougher times are ahead of him.
PS Why everybody blames Rijakard for last season!? It was not all his fault.
Results are on Barça's site. Currently 95% counted and 60.68% members voted YES.
yea times may be tough ahead but i think that he will try to do as much as he can to impress the fans now cuz now he understands how many ppl dont want him....i think he mite even keep etoo and ronaldinho or hes gonna sign a big player.....maybe he does neither but he will try to get fans back on his side now
Laporta is safe .... BUMMER the yes vote on got 60.6 % not the required 2/3 of the vote!
To me its fluke win from Laporta... Another lost Grand Derby on December and he is out.. Now we know how strong support has Rosell .There were almost 9.000 more votes for Si.. First stumble from Laporta and Pep during new season and he is out.
y pep????? wut did pep do wrong??? barca fans all make me sick
looking at the official fcb site it states 37294 members cast a vote or at least responded hence just slightly under a third of barca members eligible to vote only participated - who's to say if every single member cast a vote it would mean a resounding yes to the vote of no confidence?? it looks like those fans in favour of the yes vote turned up straight away whilst those who had any sense stayed away! like i say - oriol giralt should leave well alone and allow the professionals to do their job - he's had his fifteen minutes of fame - moron!
p.s. nic - you should add a 'digg' widget to your excellent blog...
ok, Laporta is safe. Good news! Nic, what he will do after this, let eto and Dinho go or keep them stay..? :-?
"whilst those who had any sense stayed away!"
lmao@ this line, do u actually believe that? if they didnt show up is cuz they didnt care and cuz its vacations time in Spain, simple as that, if they really supported Joan they would have dragged their arses to the urns and vote!
10 years ago Laporta got 40% tops when he did the same to Nuñez (vote of no confidence) and he said Josep Lluis had leave, that it was the best thing to do and staying would be lying to himself cuz 40% of the socis wanted him 2 quit.... so, now that almost 61% voted Yes what is he going to do?
Oriol Giralt wanting to be famous... funny statement, where do u get this from? he hasnt been in the media as much as Laporta was when he was leading the Elefant Blau... if u think Laporta should stay, thats cool, others dont.
Giralt, being a soci and acting like one, did what he thought was best for Barca, and numbers dont lie "a nobody" got 9k signings to start a vote of no confidence and 60,6% of the voters said yes to it, if u cant c what those results show it aint my fault.
LAPORTA; DO US AND URSELF A FAVOUR AND LEAVE!
relax liam! like i say - only a majority of a certain sum voted against laporta - two thirds of the electorate still failed to appear! i'm just happy it's over and maybe the 'yes' fans can let the board and staff get on with their jobs - i'll take a double this season...
How are they supposed to go when its vacations period in Spain? still 35k plus socis went there and voted, what were u expecting the 150k to have a vote and say yes or no?
Truth is that the ones that went didnt want Laporta, and saying many failed to go = they would have voted no = nonsense, the statistics say that out of 10, at least 6 would have voted against Laporta meaning that with a lil bit more of participation, he would have been kicked out.
If Laporta has any decency in him, he will quit.
i appreciate that members who were eligible to vote could not make it liam regardless of individual circumstances but what i am confident of is that the majority of barca fans are probably happier with laporta than either nunez or gaspart - i know i am! i'm not as big a fan as you are of ratio variables in statistics - if a group of ten walked into this blog right now and 6 despised laporta whilst the rest thought he was lovely or couldn't care less doesn't prove the next group of ten are going to feel the same way! maybe if you try this stunt with laporta you could put him out of a job: LINK !! or maybe the fact he got away with his slap shows how much power he has!
I would be superman if i had super strength, heat vision..., thing is i dont. Yes, i cant assure it would be the same if 30k more people voted, thing is, they didnt... Statistics show 6 out of 10 voted yes, thats called a tendency... FACT
The vote of no confidence was held the first sunday of July, obviously, as a strategy to prevent members 2 vote (tons of them are on vacations), FACT
He got away with it cuz of a dumb rule, he won elections with 52% of votes and now only 37% of the members support him, so i doubt he has "tons of power", i would rather say he has lost tons.
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We have many other things to think about than Laporta and vote of no confidence.To be honest IMO except Dani Alves and Pique we haven't done anything to improve our team,because I personally doubt in little Caceres and Henrique as well as Keita.If Laporta goes we won't be able to buy anyone during the summer,but there is still a positive side to this.If he leaves than Ronnie and Samuel are staying until January at least,enough time for them to show Guardiola who's the boss (or should I say,who are the Bosses :)
Who is nunez?