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Jesus Belongs to Kaka

Friday, 21 December 07, 10:29 PM


Our friend Sheridan Bird recently wrote a great article on Ricky Kaka’, check it out on his myspace site or www.football365.com.  Great we’ll wait, and when you get back we can start the post all over again.

Now, I wouldn’t say this is a direct response to that article, but it did get me thinking. There is a dearth of talent in Serie A, a league that in my lifetime had the likes of Maradona, Ronaldo, Vieri, Baggio, Del Piero, Totti, Gullit, Van Basten and a slew of others in their prime, and the cupboard does look bare, especially for the sort of young talent that is inspirational and charismatic.

Other leagues have them, those young players that are known by one name, C.Ronaldo or Cesc in England and Robinho or Messi in Spain; in fact Barcelona is loaded to the gills with the sort of inspirational young talent, from Krkic to Gio Dos Santos, not to mention their older counterparts Xavi and Iniesta.

Why then is the Serie A in such dire straights? Is Kaka’ the only one, and as Sheridan says, what of Serie A if Milan fail to qualify for the Champions League and Ricky takes a Spanish holiday?

I wouldn’t worry too much. You could resort to the “It’s cyclical, everything that’s down, comes back up again”, but it goes deeper than that. The big clubs, the ones that don’t rebuild but just reload, all have transition periods where older players are led off to pasture, like Beckham leaving and ultimately giving his place to a lanky kid from Madeira, or Viera forced out so that a cheeky genius from Barcelona could find his place in North London. Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United have found their talismanic young players. Thierry Henry and Patrick Viera had to leave so that Robin Van Persie and Cesc Fabregas could shine. Paul Scholes and Ruud Van Nistelrooj made way for Rooney and Ronaldo, and Ronaldinho and Raul have seen their respective clubs look to younger talismans. Barcelona and Real Madrid have both begun the process of pushing out the dead weight to make way for their home-grown or imported gems.

In contrast, Italian clubs like Juve, Roma, Inter and Milan have all been reluctant historically to give their youngsters the keys to the Ferrari. Look at the case of Yoann Gourcuff of Milan. Highly respected at Rennes, and starting to draw attention for France, he plays in cup matches and in injury time for the rossoneri. What gives?

Which World Cup winner do you replace in that side? Pirlo or Gattuso are irreplaceable, even Seedorf is still productive, and even Ambrosini and Brochi have their place; all parts of a well oiled machinie. Things will change however. There will come a time that the shadow of Totti, Del Piero, Inzaghi, or Pirlo won’t hide the brilliance of the younger generation.

Italians like Lavezzi from Napoli, Rosina from Torino, Pazzini and Montolivo in Firenze, De Rossi and Aquilani in Rome, and Palladino and Nocerino at Juve, all will one day be the focal points for their teams. South Americans like Alexandre Pato, Ever Banega, Falcao Garcia, and many others, have already shown interest in leaving for Europe. With places at the big clubs in England and Spain taken by their slightly older brethren, will the next generation of great and inspirational players go to Italy first? One can only hope. 

Mando from FF.

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Capello for the Cup

Wednesday, 19 December 07, 12:57 AM

So, it looks like Fabio Capello is the anointed savior of the English game, the one to right the wrongs of 40 years of futility and bring some much needed organization, a steely desire, tactical nous, and most importantly his outsized personality to put the overpaid slackers on his squad to rest?

Well, let’s not get ahead of ourselves just yet, despite his past success for Italy he hasn’t kicked a ball “for reals” in a competitive match in 30 years, and he won’t have the luxury of farming out a Ronaldo to Milan to save his wayward locker-room. What he’ll bring is a “winning at all costs” mentality, and yes, tactically he’ll be more astute and take better advantage of the weaknesses of an opponent (you won’t see a lone striker and 10 men behind the ball against an Andorra or a San Marino like his predecessor), but more importantly this won’t be battle for or against a particular formation or a particular player.

He won’t resort to 4-4-2 as a given; he’ll want the team to be adaptable, disciplined comfortable as much with 4-5-1, 4-3-3, or better yet just call it a situational, positional philosophy, as even the idea of a numbered labeling system for postional play is a bit quaint and outdated in the modern game.

Lastly, he won’t be dragged into a Lampard v Gerrard type debate which was the death of his predecessors. Don Fabio isn’t really the sort who admires or even trusts the mercurial geniuses that can change matches by themselves; cue the Francesco Totti footage in his Roma days or the David Trezeguet bits from his Juve misadventure, or better yet just post a picture of O Fenomeno on site just to get a clearer picture.

No, he’ll be looking for a way to find a distant English relative or annulling the previous Brazilian service for Emerson I gather. Impossible I know, but he’ll go looking for his two top holding midfielders nonetheless. He’ll play Gerrard as his support striker, and he’ll sit Lampard or vice versa if one or the other is off his game, and he won’t blink or question himself much even if the debate goes on in the background; a debate that I think exists because either midfielder’s handlers want it to exist at the expense of the other.

He’ll scour the more English clubs, he’ll draw from a larger and wider talent pool and he’ll identify the players who have some skill on the ball, and despite what the British numpties who have come out of the woodwork to lament their own lack of opportunity to land a big job, he’ll play an English style pressing game and most importantly, he’ll win.

It’s a great hire, it’s one that should have been made a long time ago, and it’s right in preparation for the next World Cup, but 5 years from now when Capello is 66 and off on a Tuscan holiday will England be better off as a footballing nation? Well, they solved the branch portion of their managerial search, but I’m afraid they stopped short of purging the roots.

Mando from FF

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Violence in Serie A

Saturday, 17 November 07, 03:52 PM

Violence in Serie A

The violence from last year in Catania brought many changes to the league, matches were cancelled, calls to suspend the season were brought up, but a measured approach was taken and new relegations were setup to limit away fans at controversial matches, a new ticketing policy was setup that had league officials stating violence inside stadia was down 80%. That may be, but as we've all seen in the reports, violence can spark at any time.

In a filling station near Arezzo, Italy this weekend, 5 miles from Florence in Tuscany, there were a group of Juventus and Lazio supporters that met on the way to a match, a fight broke out and the police were called in, warning shots were fired and a stray bullet killed a Lazio fan. As soon as word broke of what happened, the powder keg that is the Italian football landscape turned into the violent equivalent of one of the many wildfires we've had here in Los Angeles. Insatiable and uncontrollable it spread to Rome, Atalanta and many other cities in Italy and while it may have looked like a football problem, this most definitely reaches deeper into the fabric of modern Italian society.

The FIGC weighed in, "It is a day in which there will be major institutional steps taken." Many are calling for the suspension of the league, tighter controls in and around the matches, limiting away support, etc. While some of those may be effective, it ignores the crux of the problem.
Those that seek the answers in emulating the "English model", where safe and sane, family friendly stadia changed the fabric of English football are bound to be disappointed. These aren't hooligans who are in it to "get a few thrills" or "up the aggro" though they look outwardly much the same. The ultra on the curvas see their enemy, not across the way at the other side of the stadium with the away support, but in authority itself. It's not about taking the stadium, invading the pitch, knocking down the other firm, although all of those things do happen. Football is not the end, just a means to another end. It's about confrontation, and escalating the response, destabilizing society and ultimately anarchy. The authorities in this sense too are caught in a viscious cycle; that violence leads to a violent response, leading to more violence., and as such, the police are just as much the problem as the solution.

This must be met, not only by the FIGC, but by the Italian government itself. The response needs to be all-encompasing and not just a cosmetic fix. Frankly, targeting only the ultras is a mistake. Everyone should look themselves in the mirror.

Mando from FF 

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FIFA Player of the Year?

Saturday, 20 October 07, 11:18 PM

Every year, the infamous Fifa World Player of the Year Award comes out and every year I find myself wondering why I ever paid attention. Yes, if you’ve been living under a rock, or as I have suffering the after effects of jet lag and Barcelona, here’s the list. ‘ll join you after you read it.

FIFA World Player of the Year nominees:
Gianluigi Buffon (Italy), Fabio Cannavaro (Italy), Petr Cech (Czech Republic), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Deco (Portugal), Didier Drogba (Ivory Coast), Michael Essien (Ghana), Samuel Eto’o (Cameroon), Gennaro Gattuso (Italy), Steven Gerrard (England), Thierry Henry (France), Juninho (Brazil), Kaka (Brazil), Miroslav Klose (Germany), Philipp Lahm (Germany), Frank Lampard (England), Rafael Marquez (Mexico), Lionel Messi (Argentina), Alessandro Nesta (Italy), Andrea Pirlo (Italy), Franck Ribery (France), Juan Roman Riquelme (Argentina), Ronaldinho (Brazil), Wayne Rooney (England), John Terry (England), Carlos Tevez (Argentina), Lilian Thuram (France), Fernando Torres (Spain), Ruud van Nistelrooy (Netherlands), Patrick Vieira (France.

See anything glaring? Now I won’t argue that Lionel Messi, Didier Drogba, Cristiano Ronaldo, Ruud or even Riquelme deserve to be on that list. Maybe Essien. They all had spectacular years. Kaka, Gerrard, Pirlo and Gattuso met in the Champions League final so you could also make a case for them as well. But the rest? How many of these are here because of reputation? Thuram and Viera are washed up has beens. Ribery hadn’t yet come into his own, and Torres had never lived up to his billing in Spain. Tevez spent most of the year on the bench at West Ham, Buffon most of the year in Serie B, and most everyone else spent a significant portion of the year injured; except for Deco who spent most of the year being confused with Iniesta and Xavi. Am I getting to my point yet?

I think I’m not arguing that these people shouldn’t be nominated, I’m not even worried so much with who will win because it’s obvious that one of these, Kaka, Drogba, C. Ronaldo, or Messi, deserve it just as much as any.

Yet, eternally injured Rafa Marquez gets nominated, over the Golden Boot winner in Europe- Francesco Totti?

I realize that I’m biased for Totti, but I’m trying to be objective here as well. Is Petr Cech more deserving of the award than Pepe Reina who got his club to the CL final? Is Miroslav Klose more deserving than Raul Tamudo or Daniel Alves who both met on the field in Scotland for the UEFA Cup final? God, even David Beckham deserves votes for inspiring his club to wins down the stretch for Real Madrid.

I realize this is a popularity contest, and Francesco Totti, who isn’t even liked by the majority in his own country (outside of Rome I guess) won’t be winning any, but there are glaring cases like this that completely underscore how stupid this award really is. Give it to Kaka, who seems the darling of Fifa anyway, and of Brazilian extraction which helps for starters but don’t come to me afterwards and tout a player by how many individual awards he’s won, because clearly don’t matter.

Mando from FF

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Serie A and Scandals

Friday, 06 July 07, 03:17 PM

With the new season rapidly approaching, Elisa, Hannah and I on Forza Futbol have been itching to revisit Calciopoli or Moggiopoli this week for our next podcast. Juventus are back in Serie A. Milan, Lazio and Fiorentina are all starting even again. Everything looks the same, but has anything changed in Italy after one year after the verdicts were handed out? What do you think?

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Best Eleven Serie A 2006-7!

Wednesday, 06 June 07, 03:38 PM

Here's our Lega Calcio Best Eleven as mentioned on our Weekly podcast, episode 8.  Let us know what ya think!



Hannah-



Top 11 of the Season
 
                                                        Sebastien Frey (Fiorentina)
 
Manuel Pasqual (Fiorentina) --      -- Marco Materazzi (Inter)  -    Cristian Zaccardo (Palermo)
 
Adrian Mutu (Fiorentina) -- Kaka (Milan)  -- Gattuso (Milan) -- Dejan Stankovic (Inter)
 
                                  Francesco Totti (Roma) -- Tommaso Rocchi (Lazio)

 
 
Subs: Christiano Lucarelli (Livorno), Giuseppe Rossi (Parma), Javier Zanetti (Inter)





Elisa-


Top 11 of the Season 4-4-2~*
 
In goal, Angelo Peruzzi (Lazio)
 
In defense, Javier Zanetti (Pupi, Il Tratore, the Tractor) (Inter) RB, Matrix (Marco Materazzi or Zidane's worse nightmare) (Inter) CB, Cristian Chivu (Roma) CB, Manuel Pasqual (Fiore with 2 great years.  He was in my fantasy team last year.) LB
 
In the midfield,  Genaro Gattuso (Mil), Pirlo (Mil), Dejan Stankovic (Inter, Stan the Man) and sitting in the center in front of the strikers, Kaka (Mil, Future FIFA Player of the year)
 
In attack, Cristiano Luccarelli (Liv) (20 goals so underrated), Francesco Totti (Roma, capocannoniere, and potential Golden Boot with 32 goals this year, 26 goals in the league, angle screws).
 
Captain - Totti  (1 Argentine, 1 Czech, 1 Serbian, 1 Brasilian and 7 Italianos)

 

 

Mando-


Top 11 of the Season 4-4-2~*
 
In goal Sebastien Frey (Fiorentina) Most minutes played: 3420, most clean sheets: 19
 
LB: Fabio Grosso (Inter): I realize he doesn't play alot for Inter, but does for the Azzurri
CB: Marco Materazzi (Inter)
CB: Dario Dainelli (Fiorentina) Captain of the best defense in Serie A
RB: Cristian Zaccardo (Palermo)
 
M: Adrian Mutu (Fiorentina): Most assists and honored by GDS with best player Serie A.
M: Cristiano Doni (Atalanta):
M: Kaka (AC Milan)
M: Stankovic (Inter)
 
F: Cristiano Lucarelli (20)
F: Francesco Totti (26)

Captain - Totti

*Totti, Lucarelli and Mutu respectively are amongst the leaders in goals, assists, and a weird stat called first to goal first: 8 times the 3 scored the first goal in a game.



What are your Best Eleven?  What do you think of our picks?  Email us at forza.futbol@yahoo.com, comment or reply on our myspace, our oleole.com blog or page or on our facebook page.

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Forza Futbol episode no 8 is now available to listen!

Wednesday, 06 June 07, 10:04 AM

Special Edition - Forza Calcio - our Yearend Review of Serie A.

We review the Highs and Lows on a Team by Team basis.

At last! We roll out the red carpet and dish out our Best and Worst Awards!

Team of the Season - Best and Worst
Player of the season - Best and Worst
Best and Worst Signing or Transfer
Coach of the year - Best and Worst
Best and Worst Game
Best Goal
Best and Worst Rumor
Best and Worst Italian player playing abroad
Best and Worst Hair
Best and Worst Kit
Who's Hot and Who's Not
Top 11 of the Season

We also briefly wrapup the Internationals - Eurocup Qualifiers from this past weekend.


Never fear La Liga lovers we will be doing the same review on La Liga at the end of season. Check out last week's episode 7 to get your fix of La Liga before this week's games!

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Coming up this week on Forza Futbol podcast!

Tuesday, 05 June 07, 08:33 PM

Special Edition - Forza Calcio - are Yearend Review of Serie A.

We review the Highs and Lows on a Team by Team basis.

At last! We roll out the red carpet and dish out our Best and Worst Awards!

Team of the Season - Best and Worst
Player of the season - Best and Worst
Best and Worst Signing or Transfer
Coach of the year - Best and Worst
Best and Worst Game
Best Goal
Best and Worst Rumor
Best and Worst Italian player playing abroad
Best and Worst Hair
Best and Worst Kit
Who's Hot and Who's Not
Top 11 of the Season

We also briefly wrapup the Internationals - Eurocup Qualifiers from this past weekend.


Never fear La Liga lovers we will be doing the same review on La Liga at the end of season. Check out last week's episode 7 to get your fix of La Liga before this week's games!

You can listen to Forza Futbol on myspace, itunes, or podbean.com. Email us your comments at forza.futbol@yahoo.com

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Forza Futbol episode 7 - weekly podcast - is now available to take a listen!

Wednesday, 30 May 07, 10:58 AM

The seventh episode of Forza Futbol is now up. You can get it at Itunes or at PodBean.

Have a question or a comment? Send us an email at forza.futbol@yahoo.com

This week on Forza Futbol we discussed Champions League Final.

We also took a look at the final week in Serie A Week 38. Games we highlighted are Reggina - Milan and Catania - Chievo.

In Spain we headed to Valencia - Villarreal, Real Madrid - Deportivo, Sevilla - Zaragoza and Barcelona v Getafe in round 36 of La Liga.


And as always we brought you the latest in transfer gossip and news.

Have something to say? Have a question, comment or opinion? Want more coverage of your team? Want to talk about players? Then email us at forza.futbol@yahoo.com

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Coming up on Forza Futbol episode 7 - weekly podcast!

Tuesday, 29 May 07, 02:23 PM

We discuss-
Champions League Final - Milan v Liverpool.  Milan finally gets revenge.

Final Round 38 Serie A -  Reggina v AC Milan, Catania v Chievo Verona, best of the rest, table review and transfer rumors and gossip.  The relegation battle is finally settled on the last day.

Round 36 La Liga -  Valencia v Villarreal, Real Madrid v Deportivo, Barca v Getafe, Sevilla v Real Zaragoza,  best of the rest, table review, and transfer rumors and gossip.  Los Ches are out of the title race and Ronnie gets a red.  Ouch!

You can listen to us on myspace, podbean.com and itunes. Email us at forza.futbol@yahoo.com. We'd love to hear from you or check out our blog on myspace, oleole.com and facebook or our groups on google and myspace.

A sharper lens of the top two leagues in Europe.

Ciao y gracias**

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