A Rumour Round Up And A Prediction About Watford
Tuesday, 02 December 08, 06:11 AM · Comments (257)
Introducing My Indian Spirit Guide Dhanali [one who brings wealth] or Dave for short.
Within twenty four hours of the The Mirror breaking the news that William Gallas was joining Spurs, THFC made a public display of solidarity to the team announcing they'd signed up to Anti Bullying Week.
Darren Bent has heard of a new strategy that will allow him to score freely every week. The secret was allegedly passed to him by his old mucker Jermain Defoe. What you do is leave Tottenham. His new club come January is said to be Everton. £13 million ono.
Disagreeable Bob Keane, a one time Premiership striker turned freelance bean counter told 'a close friend' that this method was in fact 'Horsesh*t'. Maybe he's right. His league record would indicate it is and who would know more about horses than a knacker?
Speaking of Pikeys, the fire sale at West Ham looks like it could draw bigger crowds than Woolies if they were to discount off their Pick n Mix resevoir. The suggestion is that Spurs are interested in a buy one get one overpriced deal - involving Scott Parker and Robert Green. The figure being bandied about is a whopping £16 million.
You remember Scott Parker. He was that guy who not only used to be an up and coming prospect, but also a boyhood fan of Money. He was set to join Tottenham a few moons ago when Newcastle United stepped in and awoke his childhood memories of gelt when they bumped the Spurs offer by £15,000 a week. And Robert Green you all know as a guy who was a good goalie a few seasons ago and is now just a device to unsettle Gomes.
Anyway. Watford.
Win this, my fine feathered friends and we're Carling Cup Semi Final bound.
Lose and Tottenham fans will close ranks muttering, 'we was concentrating on the league anyway' quicker than you can say, 'Don't panic, Mr Mainwaring'.
My Indian Spirit Guide Dave dropped round earlier. She was actually returning my Love Actually DVD she'd borrowed, when I pressed her on the outcome of tomorrows match she was emphatic.
"Spurs will go beserk and Pavlyunchenko will knock it in at least twice. There will be more goals from your lot but all of this is will require patience, H. All of what I see is in the second half. You still in the market for pints Wednesday?"
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" 'Oh dear, it's f*cked', is what I've always taken it to mean. I do have O-level Latin. Now they've stuck up a literal translation, in large letters: 'To dare is to do.' The words just stand there, on their own, not making much sense." Hunter Davies
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""I earned the right to be in the team and fought every game to be in it." Graham Roberts
"The worst thing Spurs ever did was get rid of Keith Burkinshaw. They never replaced him." Graham Roberts
"When you've finished playing football, young man, which is going to be very soon, I feel, you'll make a very good security guard." David Pleat to a 17yr old Neil Ruddock
"If someone wants to give you a bum steer on who we're after, then so be it. If you want to know, ask me, because I have a list of players we want and Robbie Keane isn't on it." Glenn Hoddle, then Spurs manager, shortly before paying 7 mill for ... Robbie Keane.
"The biggest regret of my whole football career was leaving White Hart Lane in 1970.....my interest in football weakened after that. I was heartbroken" Jimmy Greaves.
"I know more about smalz herring than I do about football." Sir Alan Sugar
"The trouble with Christian Gross is that no-one had heard of him. The communication wasn't brilliant and as captain I decided to explain to him how things worked and what the players liked and were used to. I do not believe he listened to a word I said." Gary Mabbutt
"Always had a bit of time, make a little bit of space, look up, bang. And you know he could put it on a postage stamp from 40 yards. Mmmmmmmmm...." Ron Manager aka Paul Whitehouse, Spurs fan on Glenn Hoddle
"I'm a miserable sod." Sir Alan Sugar
"The great fallacy is that the game is first and last about winning. It's nothing of the kind. The game is about glory. It's about doing things in style, with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom." Danny Blanchflower
"Man in the raincoat's blue & white army." Spurs fans unable to use George Graham's name, 1999.
"We like a tackle at Tottenham. we're not pansies, you know. " David Pleat
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257 Comments · Add yours
Got a bad feeling about Watford ...
need win tomorrow, europe again next season any1! modric confident of top 5, curb your enthusiasm!! pav, 1-1, win on spots! easy as that!
Can Dave play defensive mid?
Reply to Dan A:
Looks like Dave could play anything she likes!
Watford might well be up for it but we should be able to cruise past them. I am sure they will make the Bent twins look like world beaters.
I could see the Toffees coming in for Bent and that would be a great result. Pav is the boy and we need another up and coming striker as back up with Campbell. Then finally buy Arshavin to play left wing or the Modric role . Diarra and another left back and it's job done.
I seriously wanna see Ghaly get back into the team.
Can anyone argue that Zokora is better?
Dave is great with two up front!
I find it hard to imagine what team Harry will put out tomorrow night. There is no way whatsoever we should do anything negative, which means no zokora. Possibly introduce KPB into the fold. I am basing this decision purely on Redknapp saying he is a player, not on anything I have previously seen from him, because he has been clean useless for us.
We dont need to rest players because we dont play again until monday, and this is of course another ticket into Europe, so I'd go with close to our strongest team, Minus King, Jenas and Modric.
So................
Gomes
Corluka Woodgate Dawson Bale
Bentley Hudd KPB Lennon
Pavs Bent
Wing play, quarter back hudd spraying balls and KPB doing whatever it is Harry thinks he is good at doing. Bale has to start to. His record in Cups with Spurs is the polar opposite to that in the league, think he's won 9 out of 10 or something.
I'll go 3-0 Spurs, hoping Pavs gets a couple
set us up nicely for the Spammmers
Reply to RJ1882:
Good shout there on the Prince he looked quite lively when he appeared on Sunday. He also seems to have that drive and never say die attitude missing from many of our lot.
I'm with you, play him from the off lets see what he can do. Vicarage Road is the ideal place to give him a go.
Reply to onedavemackay:
Seconded. Or thirded or whatever...
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Maybe the time is right to start a sweepstake on Arry's departure.
In fact we could do two. One on the exact day in October 09 he'll depart and the other on the exact day in April 09 that JGM starts demanding it.
Agree with Shannon, bad feeling about this one.
They are going to battle their little hearts out.
Agree with the rest too, stick in the Prince, he looks like an evil superhero, I feel that might be just what we need.
Zakora is bad, but he tries. Off load Ghaly to the Arse, he can be their new Hleb.
Long long time reader and first time poster
This time last season we managed to beat Man City away in this competition so i dont see Watford as proving too hard to get past, I of course am a Spurs fan and can be easily proved wrong........... I said this about Burnley a few years back!
Im expecting H to whip the boys up in to a frenzy before the match mostly focusing on the fact that the honeymoon period is now over after losing to Everton on Sunday and playing so badly it was painful to watch even though it was free on Sopcast that they will come out all guns blazing and we will win 3-1 with the Watford goal coming right at the end from a set piece.
By the way think this blog is great, check it everyday and am disappointed when its the same as the day before.......... Keep up the good work mate
I do have a login by the way.............. Just forgot to use it!
Need O'Hara, maybe The Prince, and Cambell (even though when he plays it feels like spurs are a 'fluffer' for the porno that is mancu).
This King business will have to be resolved, we cannot go on slotting him in when his knee is ok and hoping it coincides with the tougher games.
Zokora can do the occasional defensive job away from home but he should never play at home becuase he simply is not constructive enough. The odd occasional surging run that comes to nothing and then a useless shot. He is another Steffen Freund.
I am not sure about Bentley either. He looks a luxury player to me and price wise there will never be a better time to sell Bent, especially with so many teams needing a striker.
We are a long way from the type and balance of squad required and with Harry's style I think we are going to see a major bit of wheeler-dealing in January, all aimed at a break-even cost.
Reply to onedavemackay:
KPB is a red card waiting to happen. I thought he was going to get sent off in the 15 or so minutes this Sunday past. We need this ticket into Europe. Sit KPB.
how much longer is Modders out? we're missing him
Reply to TheFincher:
Flattery will get you everywhere.
Welcome.
Reply to sid trotter:
There is wild speculation on this - groin strains are particularly unique to the individual so duration is total guesswork.
For once I'd actually use the words Official & Site.
longtime poster first time reader.
Watford? We'll stuff Watford and then beat Man Ure 5-1 in the Semis
Dhanali is nice, but she should wipe that giz glob out of her hair.
ADE AKINBIYI
I hope he steam rolls 'The Kids' tonight. He aint much good at football, but he's build like a brick sh*t house.
Reply to BruceCastle:
"longtime poster first time reader. "
You f***ing menace. Laughed so violently my keyboard is now swimming in apple juice.
Reply to BruceCastle:
You f***ing menace. Laughed so violently my keyboard is now swimming in Port.
Ahh Bruce quality as usual.
I don't think Watford will be much of a problem, they have a new manager just starting and drew 1-1 at the weekend, they didn't look to much.
It will be there cup final but im sure they would rather get near the top of championship than get spanked by manure in the semi's. I will go for a scrappy 2-1 win or maybe a 3-1 depends who plays up top with Pav.
I cannot promise any keyboard related mayhem, but chuckles a plenty are available for free for those able to take a peek at David Platt's barnet on Sky this evening.
The **** appears to have dyed it, sneezed, and watched it slope back another 18" or so.
Make your own minds up...
Super Burnley.
BURNLEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Reply to HarryHotspur:
talking of slope back, he chatted up my bird once at a nightclub on the Isle of Wight; i returned just in time, he had his wad out (and pretty impressive it was too), i puffed out my chest, he laughed and walked off hand in hand with her.....needless to say, i let him have her
Reply to toddspur:
I have an anecdote involving Perry Groves which is very funny. It doesn't involve any Mde's de Hotspur past or present, but it includes the Ginger prick on crutches and I think I will share it... on New Year's Eve. As a treat...
Reply to HarryHotspur:
its a date.......those gooner cnuts are exactly that, even off the field of war, btw a few years later the girl in question told me he couldnt get it up!!
Reply to toddspur:
Sounds more like David Pleat. In "a real cat and carrot situation"
Was he in his car at the time?
Where might one purchase a Burnley shirt?
I see the Youth have kicked ass, Obika hat-trick
....oh and come on the Burnely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply to BruceCastle:
Love the thought Harry, just don;t wear it on Monday night. Might cause a little confusion.
David Platt the man who made a whole career by scoring one World cup goal for England (against Belgium ?).
A one goal wonder if ever there was.
ALL this without The Tank Akinbiyi
Burnley in the semi final please ( I know, chickens before they hatch, but i'm confident).
Reply to onedavemackay:
Reminds me of that other **** Ray Houghton.
Reply to RJ1882:
they are a bloody good footballing side......would be a great game (or two)
Reply to HarryHotspur:
I just remembered who I hate more than Terry.
do you think one day, when Plattys slope hits the back of his neck his eyes might actually pop out?
how the fcuk do they stay in?
burnley burnley burnley
Reply to 2DayArry:
Arsene will predictibly stick by his boys and say he is planning for a bright future amongst the youth of London....dirty bastard
Another trophy goes a begging for the pervert down the road.
well must say a gooner loss is near as good as a spurs win....no its not but still
Stoke out too
Ta ta Ar5ena1!
Reply to TheSchoolboy:
Do you know something about Doublevision we don't?
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to toddspur:
phew thats good
Not that you'd want to, but if you look at your reflection in the back of a spoon, it bares an uncanny resemblance to Platt.
Well done Burnley.
Reply to TMWNN:
especially a soup spoon, good shout TM
Reply to TMWNN:
A spoon with random pubes on it.
I know, I'm sorry. No really, I am. God I wish hadn't, but it is true.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
especially a soup spoon ............although it makes it look like he has too much hair
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Cue DV.
Or maybe even VD.
'Muchas gracias' to TVE for the first half of a live Carling Cup double bill. 2DayArry is right - watching Ar5ena1 get beat is a real treat, but not quite as good as seeing the Spurs victorious. We're on tomorrow night and I'm hoping for an early lead so that I can watch without getting too worked up at the current lack of guile and creativity shown by our boys. I'm actually optimistic of making it through to the semi-finals though and predict a 1-2 scoreline with Bentley to rediscover some of the form that made us fork out all that money and Pav on the scoresheet.
Oh dear, very quiet over on wrighty7 blog. Anyone fancy writing a few posts? I might
(Don't tell me you believed me on Sunday? Tut-tut. 
Watford tomorrow - potential banana skin. I don't like all these people predicting 3-0 scorelines
Reply to onedavemackay:
You do remember who put the ball on his toe
Reply to toddspur:
A wise move,you really would not wish to stir his custard.You did`nt did you?
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
I can barely remember what happened to JJ's toe.
Reply to onedavemackay:
Gazza ?
Reply to onedavemackay:
How we could have done with him on Sunday against those hoofers
Watford's 2 main threats are Tamas Priskin and Tommy Smith. Priskin is slow, fat and strong so Dawson or Woody should be able to cope. Smith plays wide and cuts in making slow, tedious runs - so Bale or BAE should be able to keep up. If we keep our concentration and composure it should be a cricket score.
Reply to DANNYBOY:
Reply to Juande_Pablos:
As long as we're not batting for England.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Perry Groves; isnt that a daytime soap
. Speaking of stirring custard, didnt Steve Perrymans mum work as a school dinner lady
If I was a gooner cunt I'd shove a 20 ft steel pole up my arse
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
erm........
harry must play his strongest 11!!!!!!!!!!!
If we don't score within half an hour, I reckon this one could go all the way and we'll see Harry's head twitching more than normal.
what type of team u think sir harry will pick?
i think
gomes
bale
dawson
woody
corluka
ohara
prince
hud/zok
lennon
pav/bent
fraz
any1 else?
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
All of the above, minus Pav (who looks like he needs a rest to me) and KPB (who I just don't rate, too flash)
Reply to munso:
KPB hasnt really bn given a chance, think harry will give him a run out tonight.
morning boys..
this competition is opening up nicely for us now.. we may even be favourites at this stage..
Burnley pretty much garaunteed ANOTHER trophyless season for Ars*nal and in the process, increased our chances of grabbing our second in as many years.. which would be nice..
the only danger is looking beyond tonight..
so let's get our strongest team out and beat them.. and at the moment i believe that would include Pav rather than Bent up font with Campb*ll..
it sounds a bit stupid to suggest that Campb*ll would be considered one of our first choice strikers but the fact is it works better when he partners either of the other two..
i'd predict a 1 or 2-0 win for our lot. and we'll draw Derby in the semis..
Reply to Bimmi:
i would take utd over 2 legs
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Harry your mate Dave has lady bits,do you want to tell us something?
I have a plan. Off the back of a league defeat to dullerton, in the midst of the biggest relegation dogfight the league's ever known, let's put out the first team against hackers and hoofers in the mickey mouse cup. We've wet spam to beat on Monday at their caravan encampment. Lose or draw that one and we're likely to be right back in the bottom three.
Alternatively we could use our heads and not our glory holes to do the thinking, and put out the B team. Just a thought.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Anyone know of a spare ticket for tonight ?
Reply to munso:
You make a good point about pav looking tired. He has a right to be considering he's played since the beginning of the russian season in spring this year, with a break only for the euro's.
Yes i know he get's paid enough. But you wouldn't see a ronaldo or a drogba, starting an away trip to watford. I wonder why we have not recalled pekhart from the south coast. Is he injured or something?
Does anyone know of a spare ticket for tonight
Cheers
Reply to billybigspud:
ah f*ck that... this club's all bout glory.. and trophies..
after last night's results we now have a great chance to capture another cup..
don't worry about the relegation fight..
while i realise that we are a part of it (the first step on the road to recovery) we will definitely get out of it.. it will look after itself in time.
so let's put all that on hold tonight and go win another cup..
winning breeds winning.. a shiny gold star for anyone who can tell me what losing breeds..
Reply to Bimmi:
Frogs?
Reply to HarryHotspur:
good luck on finding out about injuries on there...i've looked for years...
Reply to onedavemackay:
lord odm...sometimes i wish you were the chairman of tottenham hotspur...how much money have you got in the bank...
well done burnley...
harry might go for this tonight...but i'm only guessing...
-----gomes----
gunter dawson corluka bale
bentley zokora KPB JoH
pav campbell
cesar rocha bae huddlestone
lennon bent bostock
Reply to KOJAC:
if that's second string that ain't a bad side at all.. (apart from Zokora).. put Big Tom in there and i think we'll have the winning formula for tonight..
i still say play full-strength..
Reply to Bimmi:
"It will look after itself in time", are you related to the captain of the Titanic?. I believe that 'arry has said that the league has priority. Unlike you ostriches, he realises there's little glory in the championship.
Reply to billybigspud:
i'm shocked you have that little faith in our players and manager..
Reply to Bimmi:
Read what I said numpty. "'arry has said that the league has priority". That's why I have faith in Harry. Wendy was shafted because he couldn't see beyond cup glory.
As for the players, I have faith that a fresh, uninjured first team will do the job in the league.
can anyone who still cannot spell zokora correctly please fuck off.
Reply to KOJAC:
Do you mean my own bank or one of the others ?
Reply to jolsgonemental:
What even us dyslexics ?
Actually, the one bloke we should definitely think about signing is the ex Goon M.D Keith Edelman. For he was the man who ran the Emptcrates project, delivered it on time and negotiated a flat 5% loan.
LINK
Good old fashioned common sense, from the master.
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Or Fraizer!
Reply to munso:
What is this, a f*cking spelling B.
Are Pavlyuchenko, Assou-Ekotto and Taarabt excluded?.
Reply to billybigspud:
of course.. naturally..
me...i say go for the glory..
why? coz i have faith in (most of) the players and Harry to get us out of the predicament we're in ..
show some balls FFS.. otherwise we're basically just Middlesbrough..
who is KPB?
Reply to Bimmi:
You sound like a Leeds fan. I'm surprised that you believe in Harry, since he's made it clear where our priorities lie. I would have thought Wendy was more your style, glory chasing dreamer.
I'd like us to win everything, but like Harry, I'm a realist. We just don't have the squad to win three cups and finish in the top half of the league. The top four don't want to risk the fitness of their first teams in the Carling. Why should we?. I'd like a team known for success, not glorified failure.
I'll be cheering for a win tonight, but Monday is what really matters.
Reply to tse:
Kev The Fresh Prince Of Thin Hair
Reply to billybigspud:
agreed... and i'm not suggesting we have a team capable of competing in three cups and league..
BUT.. i think you'll agree that our trophy cabinet hasn't exactly been bursting in the last decade or two..
i also think you'll agree that the Carling Cup is there for the taking this year.. which is why i say 'go get it'
i know i don't want to go another 9 years without a trophy..
oh and yes i openly admit that Juande was more my style of manager (if only he could speak the bloody language) but i'm a considerably happier bunny with Harry in charge..
Reply to billybigspud:
We can win the carling cup if we want - i honestly dont give a fcuk about what oher teams do it.
we are in the 1/4 final agaisnt watford - we are 3 matches away from the final - only 3 matches - these 3 matches are not going to have any implication on players fitness for a season.
yes if we are plying uefa cup / fa cup and carling cup, then yes - however we need european football next year.
why not go 4 the carling cup - which if we play near our full strength team we should win it.
then play our lesser team in uefa cup/fa cup and concentrate on league.
redknapp is no mug - he wants to win the cup - dont let him saying he is concentrating on the league fool you - you tell me a manager that doesnt want to win silverwear and ill call him a failure.
It will have to be a nearly full strength team as we do not have much beyond the first team. Lets be honest tonight we will probably see Gomez, Bale, Woodgate, Corluka, Dawson, Lennon, Bentley, HUD, Zokora, Pavlo and Frazier or Bent.
It is hardly second string is it?
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Any word on Moders gowl strain
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
agree with all that.. well said..
Yeah, I do agree that the CC is our best chance of glory this season, but our B team should be able to beat What ford, with ease.
I'd rather have another 9 years of league safety than loads of silver and championship football, it's just a matter of priorities.
I love the glory as much as the next man, but whilst the team continues to lose league games against journeymen, I want them focussed on the league.
COYS COYS
Reply to billybigspud:
Fair play mate but what is our B team and when has Harry previously played it?
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Wayne,
Ridiculously obvious statement about winning silverware. That apart, you make a good point about concentrating on the league and a very achievable Carling Cup, playing the B team in the FA and Uefa. However, if a first team player gets injured tonight , I'll hold you personally responsible
Reply to Bimmi:
So, let me get you people straight: Your order of priority is:
-Carling Cup
-UEFA Cup
-FA Cup
Have you never wondered whether there may be a reason why we regularly seem to make the final stages of the League Cup?
Reply to Nunchucks:
at the moment yes this is the priority based on achievability
Reply to Magoolio:
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
There is wild speculation on this - groin strains are particularly unique to the individual so duration is total guesswork.
For once I'd actually use the words Official & Site.
Reply to billybigspud:
Yeah would like to see more of Bostock and i hope he gets some minutes tonight.
young mcdonald scored 2 goals e i e i o
knocked the scum out of the cup e i e i o
with a luv it here and a luv it there, here a luv it,there a luv it, everywhere a luv it luv it
youn Mcdonald scored 2 goals e i e i o
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Is Nick's avatar the reason for deja view.
Reply to billybigspud:
what if zokora or bae gets injured, would you thank me lol
i understand league is main priority - but i believe european football is a must for us as well.
i take nunchucks point
in an ideal world uefa cup/fa cup would take a priority - this is not an ideal world - at the moment our best chance of silverwear is the carling cup, i want wembly again, i want european football next year!
COYS COYS COYS COYS
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
yep agree with all that.
I still think the following side for Waffa & FA Cup is competitive and bodes well for next seasons squad of players for the Prem;
Alnwick
Gunter, Dawson, Ferroro Rocha, BAE
Taarabt, Thudd, Zokora, O'Hara
Campbell, Obika
Bench;
Pavlova/Bent
Bostock
KBP
GDS
Modric/Jenas
Lennon
The bench is the important part of the puzzle
As for tonight; lets go flat out for it, we dont play spammers til Monday. My team would be;
Gomes
Corluka, Dawson, Woody, Baler
Lennon, Thudd, Zokora, Bentley, O'Hara
Bent
Subs
Pavolva
Bostock
KBP
Gunter
Bent
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Here's hoping that this mindset only lasts until January. I'll be a lot more gung-ho if we get decent defensive and left mids, and cover for LB and Gomes. COYS COYS
Reply to Bimmi:
agreed, next season it should be
Premiership
Premiership
Premiership
in that order
Reply to Bimmi:
Could the reason why this scenario is achievable in the first place be because no one else takes it as historically seriously as we or indeed you do.
This is a B team cup. Most other team selections reflect this. That we field the strongest 11 before any stage except the final is embarrassing in much the same way as watching your dad turn up to The Dad's Race at Sports Day in full lycra regalia resplendent with running spikes and sweatbands.
Okay, it might get the job done. But, frankly, so what? And at what cost?
Reply to Nunchucks:
Well if it was not for the Carling Cup we would not be in Europe this year which surely would affect our income stream?
If other teams want to devalue this Cup then that is up to them.
Personally another final at Wembley would be pleasing.
Reply to Nunchucks:
Nun,
That pretty much sums up how I feel about it too.
Ps Does your dad do those 118 ads?.
Magoolio: How much do you think the UEFA cup revenue is actually worth?
I've not news for you; it's not anywhere near where you think it is.
Reply to Nunchucks:
what it is then Nun?
it does also attract players to our club who desire to play in Moscow and the like
Reply to toddspur:
2006/7
Sevilla - €6.25 mil
AC Milan - €39.6 mil
Reply to Nunchucks:
Maybe it is less than i think but i still think making it to the UEFA Cup through winning the Carling Cup was a good thing for our club last season.
Maybe when we are title contenders and in the Champs league we could start to put a B Team out in the quarter finals of the Carling Cup.
Reply to billybigspud:
and Spurs 2006/7??????????????
Reply to Magoolio:
PRE-F*CKING-CISELY!! nail on the head.. when we're a top 4 club we can talk about playing our B team..
right now, Hull, Stoke, Bolton, Middlesbrough, WEST HAM and ten other clubs are above us..
I'm not saying it isn't a competition worth being in, chaps. But I do take note of the fact that it seems to be evolving into the new Intertoto Cup: Same rewards, taken about as seriously.
I'm also conscious of the fact that we have a policy of targeting young talent, and in turn have a youth set up bristling with potential protoges. Where are they? I often wonder if Taarabt or Bostock were a few miles down the road how frequently they might have pulled on non-reserve team shirts in cup games by now.
Reply to toddspur:
About £3M over 10 games.
LINK
this is a bit confusing but interesting nonetheless.
If you add gate receipts and TV rights i reckon last year we made at least 5 mill from Uefa Cup run..........thats 10 KBP@s ffs!
Reply to toddspur:
What's money got to do with it?
I follow Spurs to watch the team play not to see how much money the club can make.
Spurs - €4.3 mil
Reply to Nunchucks:
LINK
this one is a bit more interesting (for those anoracks amongst us). Dont forget to add tv and gate receipts. I still think we made 5+mill which is not to sniffed at
BTW; tonights game at Wafford is worth 50 pence
I assume all the people who come on here knocking the old CC won't be wanting a final ticket, should we get there?
Reply to munso:
Reply to tse:
He is a bit like KBP, but not quite as good
Reply to steve1987:
very true, but we are just chewing the crud. The more exposure i get to see the mighty Spurs the happier (and unhealthier) i become
Reply to munso:
shit he must be bobbins then
Reply to munso:
very good question.. very good..
FN??
I find it a little hard to understand this debate at all.....
As one wise old bean pointed out earlier- assuming you won't be making it more tricky for me to get a ticket com the final in February if we get there?
Only difference i can see is that we haven't had the chance to play any key rivals- a la arsenal/chelsea- on the way.
Telling me you wouldnt love the chance to put one on Berbatov if we got Manure?
And while we're on the subject of how much money the Wafer cup makes... who cares- being in it is the difference between slim and no chance of attracting top players in the summer!
Any links for spurs tonight on the net?
Is it on p2p?
Thanks
Not to worry found it on p2p. If anyone is interested its on www.atdhe.net.
Reply to Bimmi:
I was born in Walthamstow, that's E17, the next borough to Tottenham. Three miles from the ground. I've been a supporter for over forty years, get to the majority of home games, if I'm lucky with work and social committments, I see 20 to 30 games a season.
You foreigners, yokels and TV merchants, who only go and see the team at a cup final, make me laugh.
Reply to vincenzo_spur:
Spot on Vinnie.
Without Europe it is much harder for us to attract top players.
Reply to billybigspud:
"You foreigners, yokels and TV merchants, who only go and see the team at a cup final, make me laugh."
The entire world must be like one big nitrous oxide fest for you then.
On the value of the CC, I think it's worth asking ourselves how we felt reading that Arse players comments last week when he said he desperately wanted to win a cup. We didn't feel for the p****, but felt superior.
The denegration of a trophy is all in the mind. The monies, the exposure, the jumping up and down are not diminished one jot by sneering.
If Arsenal had won it last year then it would have been a reinforcement of them as a successful side.
A reminder that they ...WIN things.
We win it and there is an element that snipes. The same element that present Sky Sports, the same element that kow tows to the 'big four'.
Ah, bless, the Spuds have won a likkle potty wotty.
How do we address this?
Win more. Jump up and down lots and bask in whatever snatched glory we achieve.
We're good at that, so not a huge ask.
Now let's do these Watford nurks and move on.
Reply to billybigspud:
I see two or three games a season.
Please clarify if i fall into the above - sharpish.
Somebody is going to get a ruddy good punch on the bottom
Bah fuck it spurs are shit and its only a mickey mouse cup anyway - wouldnt mind a ticket for the final though............
------gomes-----
corluka dawson woodgate bae
lennon jenas zokora JoH
pavlyuchenko campbell
cesar gunter bale huddlestone KPB bentley bent
looks like harry wants to win...good thing too...
i can't believe some of you don't seem to want to win this cup....trophies go down in the history books...glory glory tottenham hotspur..and all that...
Reply to calebray:
Reply to KOJAC:
You are in the majority, my friend ...
C'mon Arry ...givusapot!
Reply to HarryHotspur:
yeah just a lickle potty wotty.....
2 games a week that's what i want...i'm a tottenham junkie...feed me...
this is a game i'm happy for zokora to start...come on zok get yourself a goal...
wake up lads...dear oh dear...
We appear to be Eskimo Or Notto and Lennon. Where's the rest of us?
COYS!
surely they can fashion a goal between them before the 90min is up...
have we scored from a corner this season...?
You would think they were using a fucking beach-ball with some of the crossing tonight!
i think the lads need to start working a little harder...god damn it...!
fucking hell....!
ffs pav
jolly good pav...thanks fatty dowd
wow that was a weak penalty
get in pav thats better
That will be the old 'get out of jail' card hopefully!
Generous of mr dowd i thought, caught Jenas but had already played the ball....still, we need all the help we can get.
Keep it going and get our shoting boots on we should sail through.
Reply to munso:
we certainly need help...
Reply to knocsucow00:
I actually liked it. He was 100% focused. Looked at the ball. Looked at the ref. Looked at the ball. Looked at the ref.
Bing. In.
His body was very very open, mate, but by the same token, he buried it.
Rock on.
opps shooting lol
We can't cross.
We can't shoot.
In other respects we are exemplary.
Clear penalty, though not as clear as the first.
that is pavlyuchenko's 4th goal in the old league cup...i prefer him taking penalties to bent...as our main taker..
If anything we do get alot of luck under Harry's leadership.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
I was talking about the fact that a penalty was given. But your play by play was spot on.
Reply to Spurs8182:
better to be lucky than good....i think the old saying goes....
Reply to KOJAC:
I agree he was super cool taking that pen, shades of someone else we use to have playing our glorious shirt, he could of missed with that poor finish earlier.
We will win this 3-1 ladies. Pavlos due a hatrick!
Reply to Spurs8182:
i really like the pav....berbatov let us down...and was a very skillfull player...so very hard to replace...but they did alright getting in the pav...if we can give him scoring chances i think we'll have us a good striker who put's in some effort too...
good old woody is putting in a shift this season...isn't he...
Reply to ToniMontana:
Good man Tone.
We need to crush these cockaroaches.
Pavtastic.
This looks like a competition to try to decide which team is poorer on set pieces.
come on lads...keep the fucking ball and let's slice em open...like my christmas ham..
Reply to knocsucow00:
i think we win that one...they're more expensive..
Ugh, one of these days Zokora is going to do something at the end of one of his long runs....law of averages right?
this is embarrasing. We should be stuffing these Elton Johnies.
so bent has caome on then...
Okay, here it is. I'm going to say it. I've almost said it. I'm saying it now:
I like Assou Ekotto recently. He's been putting in some very handy crosses, covers more yardage on average, and generally looks more awake.
Ahh. Better out than in.
Reply to knocsucow00:
no when the legs get up to a certain speed the brain turns itself off unfortunately
Reply to knocsucow00:
alas his crosses and junior school shots aren't even close to average.
Reply to KOJAC:
indeed he has...well done benty..
thier defense is crap. Why the fook arent we up by at least 3 by now.
Fuckin get in
Wasn't a pretty goal, but we sure needed it.
Reply to BruceCastle:
no bostock to bring on...it'll have to be KPB
Bring on the manure in the semi's
Reply to Spurs8182:
i'd prefer derby or burnley
no sky.
all streams disappeared.
just run out of beer.
relying on bbc commentary to carry me through to the final whistle.
BIOYEJC
Reply to KOJAC:
well yeah true
Reply to thedrb:
iraq goals is up
Reply to thedrb:
LINK
Still working for me.
does Jenas open his eyes before he passes the ball?
Reply to BruceCastle:
no
koj, knoc...cheers
I bloody hate Alan Smith on Sky all he does is put Spurs down poxy gooner.
our midfield looks gassed, need some subs
have we won i've suddenly lost all feeds...
Reply to KOJAC:
Watford have equalised.
Reply to Nunchucks:
don't give up the day job
Yeah all over we are in the semi's
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to Spurs8182:
cheers...well done lads...we are through..2 games a week will keep on coming for a while more...roll on the hammers on monday night...tough game and we need three points...thats for sure...coys...
how fukin much hard work was that.... then there was the game. I think Derby in the semis then Burnley in the final would be good
Ive got a feeling it will be manure in the semi's. When is the draw?
Reply to Spurs8182:
Bloke is a cunt.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to thedrb:
"Audairy estay fat cherry pie"
Top man. Welcome!
Reply to Spurs8182:
And that's my considered opinion....
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Well i couldn't have put it better myself, cant add much more than that myself.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
How come we kept giving the ball away and they didn't ?
How come O'Hara keeps taking corners and free kicks when his delivery is pants ?
And how come BAE managed to get through an entire game with out making any cock ups ?
Good. Of course it was scrappy, it was a quarter final at Watford. Harry gambled on winning this with the first team just to get Everton out of the system. And it worked.
Our midfield has the fluidity of ice, the vision of Stevie Wonder and the accuracy of hitting a visigoth at 500 yards with a hand thrown arrow.
I am so glad we won this game. We needed it for morale and for a shot at getting back into Europe. But this midfield needs more then Modric coming back, it needs money spent in January.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
You said the c word.
We're through. No glory, but that'll do me for me tonight.
Reply to AndalucianSpur:
Well 2 out of 3 predictions ain't too shabby. Far from convincing but another cup semi to look forward to. TVE employed Stevie Archibald as co-commentator (I'm old enough to remember watching him and Crooksy lead the line in the 80s) and I have to say his Spanish is muy bueno. Then again he obviously lives out here and he did also play for Barca and Espanol. Hope Luka returns on Monday but there were some things to appreciate tonight - Gomes continues to improve, as does Pav's linking and hold-up play, and Lennon is still in great form (best to forget the crosses though).
Reply to TMWNN:
Me, me, me
Reply to onedavemackay:
BAE was my MOTM and I'll keep making him so untill we start playing football.
Reply to AndalucianSpur:
"(I'm old enough to remember watching him and Crooksy lead the line in the 80s)"
Careful, you'll have a number of us gettin' very emotional....
Reply to Nunchucks:
You should have heard that which I dared not write when I saw Sherwood's disinterested face on my telly tonight...
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Those were the days sitting on wooden seats in the Paxton end with terraces and floodlights.
When will people get off Darren Bents case? He is paid to score goals, end of.
A new DM is far more important than getting rid of our top scorer, or are we trying to get relegated?
Reply to HarryHotspur:
reminisce, reminisce, reminisce. Remember the goal Archibald scored againt Watford? The same game we won 3-2 when Goddle scored the best goal ever. You bastard, you diid this on purpose
Reply to TonyGalvinsShinpads:
Here here.
i spent most of Bob Keane's time at Spurs with my mouth shut as I thought MOST of his goals were a bit shit.
An incredibly unpopular opinion.
I kept my mouth shut simply as they counted and there were lots and lots of 'em.
Bent detractors can do what the f*** they want in my book.
Just so long as they also do the maths.
Reply to DANNYBOY:
This goal against Twatford takes the cake LINK
Bastards. Now I'm going to have to dust off the VCR, plug it in, and watch my "Greavsies Spurs Six of the best from the Eighties" video. I remember the commentary almost word for word, but there you go. Late for work again. Damn Trains
Who do we want in the semi's then?
I want Derby.
Reply to TMWNN:
man utd over 2 legs, think over 2 legs we can beat them.
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
I like your optimism, it's just a shame I don't share it.
The lads sure as hell made hard work outta that match. And what is happening with their incessant high balls and long balls? It seems they have forgotten how to pass the ball on the ground. I'm happy with the win, but utd would destroy us if we played like that. The sooner Modric returns the better!
242 comments to dig through and some were even as long winded as I get!
Firstly - get in Benty, Pav, Azza, BennyKotto and all those that contributed to the win last night. It wasn't an assured nor cultured performance, but that door certainly knew we were knocking and we went through in the end.
Secondly, although I defend his contribution regularly - Diddums Zokora pissed me off last night. Many a chance he had to do something special, but many times he cocked it up and even contributed to their threat! Not a good night for The Zok. Stop smiling when your runs/crosses/shots go pear shaped and start to feckin 'Visualise'!
Now about the merits of the CC. I agree with all that want to win this tin pot - it's not to be pissed at. Remember this year WE WILL win get a decent league placing, win another cup and the only new thing we'll see in the Ar5e's trophy cupboard is a bit more dust. Again for the worriers I suggest trying to Visualise the good stuff! - it really works. Not just blindly hoping, but whatever little bit of confidence you have in the team will shine through and help us achieve as a unit.
We're going to face Manure on our run to Winning at Wemblers - it's written in the stars. We'll even meet with that Bulgarian rat and see him sent off or subbed by a furious rednosed cunt. Karma will have its way - you'll see.
Powered globally by nitrous oxide, we'll get there - with a few more faces in Jan and some even more motivated squad members. The future's bright
Reply to HarryHotspur:
It's an unsolvable puzzle how or why he was approached for a role at the club. I would rather have seen it go to Ginola. At least he was up for a role. Instead, we had to suffer Sherwood's reluctant shuffling to the task at hand. A perfect argument for why Brits in every role is all well and good as a bit of PR, but not necessarily always the best medicine.
And, I'm as pleased as Kriss Akabusi to see I'm not on my own in the BAE camp. I predicted a riot by coming out of the LB closet.
Reply to Nunchucks:
...please asKriss Akabusi
Ginola would have at least added a bit of glam back into our set up helping balance out the ugly of Joe Jordan (as someone previously highlighted) - not sure if he would have been that aware tactically, but perhaps he could have shown the Taarabts, BAE's, JoH's of the squad a few tricks.
'pleased as Kriss' even...
Reply to Trembly:
Sherwood should not have got within a country mile of the lane again.He looks down his nose at us,which I find hard to take as he id 100% pure pikey as you can see from his boat race
The last person who needs to be shown any tricks is that Taarabt fella. I wouldn't mind him signing up to End Product 101 though.
Reply to Nunchucks:
Sorry, I didn't mean in the way of step overs, flicks etc, I meant more like Ginola's quality final balls which - for all intents and purposes - were very much "wursit".
job done, dont give a fuck who played well, was up for it, didnt pass well yadda yadda yadda.....its a win and we are in the hat
Reply to toddspur:
They are always tough games against lower league teams a win is all that matters
Reply to HarryHotspur:
A classic bit of stat bashing from Martin Tyler (this doesnt include last nights goal):
I've compiled the stats and the news is good for Darren Bent. Of the players you've mentioned, he has the most league goals (joint with Jermain Defoe), the most goals overall and the best goals per game ratio in all competitions so far this season. As for Roman Pavlyuchenko, he has scored fewer goals that Defoe but has a better goals per game record - although his goals ratio is not as good as that of Mido so far this season.The news is much less pleasing for Robbie Keane. The Liverpool man has scored the fewest league goals, the fewest goals overall and has the worst goals per game record by far out of those six players. Here are the stats in full:
Player League Other Total Games Goals per game
Robbie Keane 2 2 4 22 0.18
Dimitar Berbatov 2 4 6 15 0.40
Jermain Defoe 7 1 7 16 0.44
Roman Pavlyuchenko 3 3 6 13 0.46
Mido 4 1 5 10 0.50
Darren Bent 7 4 11 21 0.52
Bugger, space bar didnt work between the numbers.
Essentially, goals per game stat is the most important:
Robbie Keane - 0.18
Dimitar Berbatov - 0.40
Jermain Defoe - 0.44
Roman Pavlyuchenko - 0.46
Mido - 0.50
Darren Bent - 0.52
The math says get off Bents back!
Reply to toddspur:
Due to increased fixtures because of our inclusion in the UEFA cup and having a small squad, will this not affect our premier league campaign?
With a lower place finish in the PL, will that not cancel out some if not all of the revenue from being in the UEFA cup?
If manure don't win the league cup I'll shit myself in public.
Fuck the cups, I'm dreaming of a comfortable mif-table finish. But I'll take an uncomfortable one.
"mif-table finish"?
My fruedian slip is showing.
The match was like a knackered old donkey pulling a heavy load up a hill on a rutted old path. No style, hard work, plenty of slog but got there in the end. That pitch was a mess and without that excusing some of the passing, it didnt help the slickness of our style.
It concerns me that we rely so much on a couple of individuals. Modric, Lennon, King, Jenas (when he's on song). We need a couple more really consistent players. Since we flogged Steed we've missed that.