Another Unsatisfactory Email From THFC

Is this the faithful reporting of correspondence between a fan and the Club, or is it comments from the Club interspersed with sarcastic remarks from you which the Club has not had the opportunity to respond to prior to you publishing them in an attempt to make yourself look clever?

Reply to John White:

Is this the faithful reporting of correspondence between a fan and the Club, or is it comments from the Club interspersed with sarcastic remarks from you which the Club has not had the opportunity to respond to prior to you publishing them in an attempt to make yourself look clever?

There isn't a prize for the most disingenuous question of the day but if there were it would have your name on it.

And... having just shaved prior to hitting the PUBLISH button today I am able to confirm I looked clever before doing so.

The email (black ink) is faithful and to those of you who either left school at seven or are an*lly pedantic, my thoughts are in blue ink

I often sit in the wrong end at games if it's easier or cheaper to get tickets that way.

Often at games in the north the home end is filled with ex-pat yids. You just know not to be explicit about it.

It's about the conduct, not ticketing policy. The stewards should have responded better, that's all.

button yer lip John White.
Where the feck are you coming from?
HH clearly makes a valid interjection on each point - certainly represents the feelings of every other spurs fan on the planet so once again, where the feck are you coming from?
shit that implies I actually want to know.
shitcunt.

on a lighter note though,
thursdays game was well Bent on many levels.

why are thfc so quiet not a word officailly

i feel worried that some of those young fans will never want to come to the lane again
and that is very sad

£900 for a season ticket why should i be tolerant to away fans sitting next to me

I hate this sort of crap. It's why I dislike my club more & more, and why I go to games less & less.

They're sucking the football spirit right out of me. Tottenham Vampires FC.

Well, H I normally agree with you on most things, but there is an element of truth here; I bought tickets for me and 5 Polish friends. They had other friends here who wanted to come and simply rang up, gave an english name and their own address and we all (15!) meet in the East stand and only 4 other them supported Wisla and the rest were cheering on Spurs! Apparently first time a Polish team as played in London for a while? Now I for one want to take my friends to Spurs games who dont support either team or who support the opposition. In the wider context of the issue, I am not that old to recall being able to do this at Spurs and me going over with my mates to cheer on anybody against the woolwich wonderers; I consider that due to the stupid hooligans of the 70s & 80s for which it must be said that Spurs more than played their part; (feyenoord; Ajax; that Chelsea game etc..) with have sterialised our game, boarding on ethnic/social cleansing. Clearly I am not calling for a free for all and of course people need to feel safe at football matches and nor am I saying that the club are faultless here in this situation, but I have gotta say I enjoyed the Wisla fans being mixed with us and long may other fans mix with us again in the name of football and I long for the time again when me and my gooner mates can sit together again, watch a match again and be allowed to cheer when either team score and simply have fun! Ps My mates said I wouldnt bother sitting in the Wisla stand for the away leg! Theyre a bit it naughty apparently!

Idea.

As a protest during tomorrows match, why don't all Spurs supporters whiten their faces with make-up and draw two bleeding holes on the side of their necks.

Pass it on..........

Or wear Wigan colours.

JASPERWATCH

Huntlr, Podolski, Arshavin (2 out of these).

All three strikers have been provisionally agreed!

This has come from as good as the horses mouth

What would happen if we ever signed a Polish ( player??? Dont't worry none of them are good enough for us.

But Comoli seems determined to see us relegated, with all the duff players he seems to hoodwink the manager and board with into signing!!!!

Alfie, I can't imagine many people mind a few polish bods who know how to behave in that sort of situation, sitting around in the home side. Its the one's who don't who were the problem and they should have been dealt with quickly and professionally. The club appear to have acted irresponsibly but won't accept it, which suggests more of the same to come.

I too in the past used to go to cheer on teams against the woolwich trespassers but always in the away end. Had I done so with gusto in the home end, I'd have fully expected to be 'escorted' out; hopefully by a nice bobby.

What's more worrying is the fact we've been out sung by the away fans (where ever they're sitting), three games on the spin.

JGM

re your plan to patent BIOYC

i have beaten you to it. am currently in talks with tampax.

for real harry ?????

Why did none of those three sign in august ??
And which two are favourites ?

Reply to TMWNN:

What's more worrying is the fact we've been out sung by the away fans (where ever they're sitting), three games on the spin.

Direct action? I'll give you direct action.

Terry Wogan for DOF.

Harry - If we do not win any Premier League games very soon, we can kiss good by to signing any of the three players you mentioned!!!

Reply to yidskin:

for real harry ?????

Why did none of those three sign in august ??
And which two are favourites ?

Mate, it's a dig at the world's worst tipster on Spurs Odious. PLEASE do not take seriously...

Reply to summerspur:

JGM

re your plan to patent BIOYC

i have beaten you to it. am currently in talks with tampax.

Try again.

Nick Cave's beaten you both to it...

LINK

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to TMWNN:

What's more worrying is the fact we've been out sung by the away fans (where ever they're sitting), three games on the spin.

Direct action? I'll give you direct action.

Terry Wogan for DOF.

At least we'd get the Russian vote.

Reply to TMWNN:

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to TMWNN:

What's more worrying is the fact we've been out sung by the away fans (where ever they're sitting), three games on the spin.

Direct action? I'll give you direct action.

Terry Wogan for DOF.

At least we'd get the Russian vote.

I'd like to see him do the raffle at half time too.

'And now friends, the chance top own the most expensive set of giant drinks coasters known to mankind.

Eyes down for a full house...'

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to TMWNN:

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to TMWNN:

What's more worrying is the fact we've been out sung by the away fans (where ever they're sitting), three games on the spin.

Direct action? I'll give you direct action.

Terry Wogan for DOF.

At least we'd get the Russian vote.

I'd like to see him do the raffle at half time too.

'And now friends, the chance top own the most expensive set of giant drinks coasters known to mankind.

Eyes down for a full house...'

Bucks Fizz to replace the midfield?

Reply to TMWNN:

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to TMWNN:

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to TMWNN:

What's more worrying is the fact we've been out sung by the away fans (where ever they're sitting), three games on the spin.

Direct action? I'll give you direct action.

Terry Wogan for DOF.

At least we'd get the Russian vote.

I'd like to see him do the raffle at half time too.

'And now friends, the chance top own the most expensive set of giant drinks coasters known to mankind.

Eyes down for a full house...'

Bucks Fizz to replace the midfield?

The Village People to replace the defence, notoriously tight at the back

I'll be outside the Spurs shop on the high street tomorrow from midday handing out free cold cream, face powder and red felt tips.

See you there everyone.

Super Bolton. 1-0 Really not sure about Kev's hair though.

Reply to el:

I'll be outside the Spurs shop on the high street tomorrow from midday handing out free cold cream, face powder and red felt tips.

See you there everyone.

Just spoke to a wholesaler pal of mine. Fancy going halfsies on a stall? I can get my hands on 25,000 replica crucifixes. They're not rubbish, manufactured in the one country that leads the world in quality Halloween products.

Fiji.

I for one am unhappy with this and I wasn't even there! As a fan in the NW I only go to games on an ad hoc basis. I was a member but at £30 or so for two games it just wasn't worth it. As such it sounds like fans like me who might try and get a ticket will find it even more difficult than I normally do! Great.
Also I often get clients / contacts ringing me asking if I'd like to watch the mighty Spurs play Manure, citeh, Blackburn etc, etc, always in the home end. This in itself is not a problem as I'm usually on my own (as a Yid) and keep my mouth shut when / if we score.

On another note re our blatant short comings, I often read Tim Vickery's column on the BBC website (he's their man in S. America). He was commenting on how good a side Paraguay are at the mo and how suprised that more European sides hadn't snapped up more of thier side. As such surely they've got a half decent DM that we could pick up for peanuts as most of em play in their native country or Mexico! Surely this is what a D. of F. should be being paid for picking up some players from far flung countries as well as all the Europeans as any of us could name players like Modric & Pav etc!!!!! FFS!!!!! Comoli get your f'in finger out you hooped jumper, onion string, beret wearing surrender monkey!!!

Bolton winning one nil - I go to the kitchen at the request of my lovely to cut some veg for our spag bol. Halfway through the onion and with eyes watering like Gazza, i return to the living room to see that somehow Arsenal now lead 2-1. Thank god I had cutting the onion as my excuse for tears of rage at Boltons inability to beat the arsenal bastards.

Now, where is the Wigan Pre-Match Prattle Sir Harry H???

Reply to RJ1882:

Bolton winning one nil - I go to the kitchen at the request of my lovely to cut some veg for our spag bol. Halfway through the onion and with eyes watering like Gazza, i return to the living room to see that somehow Arsenal now lead 2-1. Thank god I had cutting the onion as my excuse for tears of...

Simmering like any good ragu. Should be ready to dish up a little later

Reply to 1981_Spurs:

What would happen if we ever signed a Polish ( player??? Dont't worry none of them are good enough for us.

But Comoli seems determined to see us relegated, with all the duff players he seems to hoodwink the manager and board with into signing!!!!

that old chestnut, I wish Spurs fans would stop playing the blame game, it is getting boring. if Commoli went for a pee you would say he had his d**k in the wrong hand!

Reply to Sir Led:

Reply to 1981_Spurs:

What would happen if we ever signed a Polish ( player??? Dont't worry none of them are good enough for us.

But Comoli seems determined to see us relegated, with all the duff players he seems to hoodwink the manager and board with into signing!!!!

that old chestnut, I wish Spurs fans would stop playing the blame game, it is getting boring. if Commoli went for a pee you would say he had his d**k in the wrong hand!

I wish Damien would take his dick in his hand and proceed to shove it up his arse and fuck himself.


Tosser.

Reply to el:

I'll be outside the Spurs shop on the high street tomorrow from midday handing out free cold cream, face powder and red felt tips.

See you there everyone.

Can you use any excess make up to make Bent and Fraza look like Pointy and Sulky?

My problem is i cant understand how the board has not realised by now that we are on the whole (sorry JGM) an understanding lot, with a bit of patience. All it would take would be an honest "oops guys, lets talk via the chairman of the supporters trust - who by the way i hear is an alright kind of guy - and iron this out, after all we are learning as a club and a company - sorry"
DO NOT INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE - I CAN FUCK MYSELF OVER WITH NO HELP FROM YOU BOYS
any thoughts?

All in all exactly what I expected. A professionally written business letter. What I would have liked to have seen is more along the lines of:

1. We appreciate you taking time to voice your opinions, and recount your experiences on the night.
2. We take the welfare and of our fans very seriously and will launch a full enquiry into the whole affair.
3. We will ensure from now on, that any supporters wearing away supporter outfits that are acting in a provocative manner, be ejected immediately.
4. Please understand that we cannot always identify the nature of the person buying the tickets bought online or whose tickets were procured through other means. However we will investigate and track the tickets back to members/season ticket holders if they were responsible for selling on their tickets to persons undesirable.
5. We are initiating plans to stop the unauthorised selling of match day tickets, to prevent any risk these touts have to match day safety and security.
6. On the sale of tickets for the home end, we have clearly highlighted that any persons buying a ticket that causes provocation, vocally supporting the away side, or wearing the away colours will be ejected without refund.

Can't help but think this is all a bit much for them to make the effort though. After all - any new procedure will take time and money to implement...and god knows we need all the money we have to buy Villa, Arshavin, Heskey in January.

You all sound like a right bunch of girls.

The club were not responsible for the opposition fans being there or their conduct, but maybe as some commented, its how it was handled. I'm quit sure the club will do what they can for future games.
Quite rightly this should of been pointed out to the club, but can't help but think that some of the comments made in response the clubs reply are a bit tetchy, perhaps due to our current poor showing on the pitch rather then anything the club has done wrong with this incident.

Reply to Ginge1:

I for one am unhappy with this and I wasn't even there! As a fan in the NW I only go to games on an ad hoc basis. I was a member but at £30 or so for two games it just wasn't worth it. As such it sounds like fans like me who might try and get a ticket will find it even more difficult than I normally...

That is a belting anti french rant Ginge1. I'm going to bank it for future discussions with Goons.

god u dont change.. once a prick, always a prick.. more of ur useless garbage to self promote yourself

Well I like Commolli. 20mill for an arm waverer, great business. 30mill for a sulker great business. Bent's alreay got 3 more goals than those two put together. And everyone raved about Modric and how well we did to do an early deal. And noone moaned about Gomes. Most think Pavlyuchenko is a classy player. And he got Hutton and Woodgate in Jan. It's not his fault they're not playing like a team.

I have some sympathy for the club here, let's say Cricket had a similar history of crowd tensions, how would you handle the West Indies at the Oval or India at Edgebaston?

Not as easy as it sounds now that London can rustle up a soccer crowd for any nation from any suburb!

Clearly things have to be looked at but if this is a real and ongoing roblem then its causes and cures (if there are any) go way beyond just White Hart Lane.

Ok I bite. What does BIOYC stand for? I can see Bring it on you.. but the C? Im lost.
Good spuds site btw, ussually very reasonable. The only spuds site I read to keep up to date on how you lot are pushing hard for a CL place this year!!
3-1..

;>)

Reply to Flav:

You all sound like a right bunch of girls.

What's wrong with girls?

If I wanted to sit next to fucking wankers when I go to a football game then I'd have a ticket at the Emirates!

Reply to Klinsmann:

Well I like Commolli. 20mill for an arm waverer, great business. 30mill for a sulker great business. Bent's alreay got 3 more goals than those two put together. And everyone raved about Modric and how well we did to do an early deal. And noone moaned about Gomes. Most think Pavlyuchenko is a classy...

Don't come round here with your facts!

Excellent points all round. Bent is on fire compared to those to cockroaches.

Go on Spurs!

Once they were in there was *nothing* that anyone could do without it escalating to a mini riot, the general rule is to deal with individuals but there were that many that individuals were so close together that it could have easily have been a mob.

This is European football, its crap that it can happen but I dont see any suggestions that I genuinely believe would work.

Trembly - nicely written post but I really don't think there is much in this story. The response from THFC seemed reasonable enough to me.

Harry. You are an erudite, witty and exceptionally classy gentleman. Your site is at it's best when you are riffing the tittle-tattle and trivia of day-to-day THFC. When you are on form it really is a delight. However, in my humble opinion, it all starts to go horribly wrong whenever you play to the cheap seats.

Two recent examples: the ill-judged foray into what constitutes a racist remark and then, this thread, today. (It's interesting that whenever you do this the incidence of the word c*** in posts defending your position increases significantly)

Today, I found John White's first post perfectly matched my feelings. A little further down the page, Alfie Conn's Hatrick wrote an exquisite response that articulated what, I hope, are the feelings of the majority of reasonable people. There was a time when North London football fans would happily go to the home games at both Spurs and Arsenal - whatever their allegiances.

Very true. Back in the mid 60s I would sometimes go see the spuds if they were playing a top team and Arsenal were away and I wasnt going. But by the late 60s that started to end as some moronic fans at all grounds made it dangerous.