Bid Made For Another Mediocre Player
Thursday, 09 July 09, 01:30 PM · Comments (101)
I'm rapidly developing an accute sense of humour failure.
I went to the Dr and said, My arm hurts in two places.' He said,'Well. don't go to those places'.
Word from two different places is that £10 million has been offered for Aston Villa's John Carew.
This, if true is even more embarrassing than our reported interest in Ken Can'tBuyAWynne Jones. At least Pineapplehead can run about a bit and still has youth on his side.
As JGM affectionately once called him, John 'Star Man' Carew. Some might think it's harsh but if this guy is the answer to our prayers then there simply is no god. Carew is reguarded affectionately by their lot. Bless their cotton rich.
Is this a ruse to soften us up so when Crouchy or whoever is audaciously swooped and unveiled that we're all so relieved we don't scrutinise things so much?
I have a nagging feeling that Arry's response to why we're being linked with second stringers is going to be a rambling, vaguely apologetic mumble about 'lack of options', 'wage restrictions' and 'no european footy' (tick/delete as appropriate).
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"We like a tackle at Tottenham. we're not pansies, you know. " David Pleat
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101 Comments · Add yours
Good to see you are accepting whatever we say without question like a good little sheep
Noooooooo!!! I would rather go with what we already have. To finally get rid of Zokora and buy Carew is really someone raining on my parade.
'Arry may have difficulty competing with all these rich clubs that keep outbidding him , but have no fear he will unveil 1 or 2 'triffic players soon.
Reply to dancingbarber:
I thought so in May but now I am beginning to worry.
Carew/Crouch End/Drowning:
All second rate players.
What happened to the days when we bought the likes of Gazza, Lineker, Waddle, Ginola etc...?
Option 1. It's all a smoke screen
Option 2. Where there's smoke, there's fire
Option 3. Smoke gets in your eyes, and you can't tell the difference between Peter Crouch, John Carew, and a decent sriker (at least that's Abbey Clancey's excuse)
Option 4. There may be a great fire in our soul, yet no one ever comes to warm himself at it, and the passers-by see only a wisp of smoke (V. van Gogh) C'mon already. Just roll out the readies for
the Hunter or Rude van Horsey FFS.
I made a comment earlier about Bent / Crouch.
If we can replace Bent £60k a week with Crouch or Carew and pay them £40k a week I won't be too upset.
That £20K a week could go towards getting someone good in a position where we need it. £60k a week for a benchwarner is a joke
Not an exciting prospect, but not a gash player. Tall (6’4”), not bad in the air, appeared in 25 league games and scored 11 goals, 15 goals in 32 total appearances last season. No blinding pace, but a solid, if unspectacular, PL standard player.
Our Mr. Bent scored 12 in 32 league games and 17 in 42 total appearances last year, so Carew’s average is a bit better.
Matias De Federico.
Signed and sealed by next friday pending work permit!
Reply to QuietAtTheLibrary:
Wilson was a relative no-name but I'm glad we got him. More like this, low-key under the radar type sugnings and I'll be ok and looking forward to getting a pleasant surprise.
But Crouch, Carew, Downing??? Do me a favour - I'd rather have a no-name surprise package than a Shit-Name disappointment.
..Pennant to Zaragoza I see on the ITK page. Hope that's true as I don't want another second rate arrogant toss pot putting on our shirt, even if it does has a streak of piss across it!
Praise the lord...
Reply to Trembly:
I would prefer the Hunter certainly and may self harm if he went to the likes of Stuttgart or any French team.
Matias de Federico...
yes please.
We have a solid squad...stop buying and selling for no reason. One quality target man, and give some of the kids a chance (Rose, Obika, Bostock, Parrett, Mason, etc.) Manure, the Scum, they all give their kids a chance to step up, we just keep ruining our acadamy players.
Also, if we can;t get close what we paid for Bentley back, keep him, I'll take him as a squad player any day over some of names we've been linked with. Give the team we have a chance to play with each other for a full season!
Reply to Trembly:
When we bought Wilson for 14mil, I thought what the feck but happily I was proved wrong; the guy is a giant.
Aye, a few quiet buys from Arry and a big nice juicy surprise will keep me happy.
Agree with what Levy and Arry have said, they'll only buy players that will improve the current team and not just more average joes. We've had plenty of those over the last decade...
what is harry thinking.we should be going for better
player like muntari or huntelaar
Reply to Journalist:
Ewe, are a pr*ck.
I truely believe all 3 of those players will score goals for us. But lets face it any of them are going to 3rd-4th choice. I just don't think we should be playing a 3rd-4th choice player that sort of money. Thats what the youngsters are for.
If lost out on a Ashley Young type player because we were £20k short we'd be kicking ourselves
LINK ARGH
What exactly is it you don't like about Carew, Harry Hotspur? And more to the point, what qualities do you think we should be looking for in a striker? Maybe a decent target man? Someone who can hold up play? Someone with premiership experience? No?
I assume you're another one of these gormless Spurs fans who wants another 'star' signing with some fancy name who you've actually never seen play but looks half decent on youtube. Someone who can beat 11 men and win games all on his own.
What we've always needed is a bit of steel in the midfield (Palacios), and a bit of steel up front (Carew), not another fancy dan just for the sake of it.
I really wonder if any of you bunch of idiots even understand the term 'team'.
I think he's an improvement over Pav, so why not? He puts himself about, wins things in the air, and will score 15-20 a season..... The goal he scored against us at their place last season showed what he's about.
Think everyone dreaming of Huntelaar and the like need to settle down to a little reality.... We're not even in Europe next year.
whats the point of john carew, who the fuck is john carew. fuck off john carew.
knee deep in drumsticks i tell you. that Redknapp is on a mission to make commolli look competent.
If we cant get decent players, dont get anyone.
close the window NOW.
Reply to PLN:
who is going to cross to him Lennon or Bentley do me a favor. He is going to have our burger munching quater back pinging the long ball to him
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Get the point man, stop being so wooly
Reply to SCer:
Do you know how to read? If so, I suggest that you peruse a while before making generalised nonsensical statements criticising the capacity of yids to think out of the designer box.
"Carew is reguarded affectionately by their lot. Bless their cotton rich."
This got me thinking cos just a few days ago I read a very similar thing on one of their websites about Dawson. I'm not a huge Dawson fan by any means, but i know if we did get Carew and he plays a similar amount of games, and I end the season feeling similar about him as I do about Dawson then I'll be happy enough. Lets be fair, you'd have to hope Carew's not being bought in as first choice.
Not sure about 10 million but perhaps if we saw Bent/ley going the opposite way then surely we wouldn't be paying much. Perhaps leaving some cash free for a decent left-wing option, and no bargain basement hunting in that area, which I think most of us would agree is an area that needs some more serious looking into.
I do feel that with Defoe, Pav, Keane, Carew, while it doesn't look like the sorta players that are gonna win you a league, it does have most, if not all, of the striking boxes ticked somewhere. At the very least I feel it offers as much as another certain club boasting Bendtner in the mix, especially if they were to lose Adebayor.
The 4 of them could get enough goals between them to get us to the postion we gotta be aiming at, which for me is 5th spot (give or (hopefully) take one spot)
While Carew may be "Mediocre", a signing like this does have 'Arry written all over it, and we got to expect these sort of signings as he's our boss now. I'm not too worried about these sorts of signings, I'll be judging them this time next summer. The sorta decisions/signings/comments he makes are almost always controversial and therefore you have to just judge him on results.
And you gotta admit, so far so good, non?
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Have heard a rumour that John Terry has been involved in a serious car accident and has broken both legs (1 hour ago).
Probably a wind up, but if true, then you heard it here first !
looks like Huntelaar has chosen Real Madrid over us... aparrently he thought about it for nearly six seconds though!
LINK
Couple of observations - firstly Villa fans dont want him to go, which is an indication of his value. He is big, strong, excellent in the air and doesnt have a bad scoring record. I am sure that ashley and aggie both benefitted from his presence. When he was absent for a while (replaced by Emile), Villa's season went to pot. Most importantly it isnt a question as to whether he's better than any one of our individual strikers, its a question of whether he offers something none of them do/provides better balance to our squad. We need a big lump who can hold the ball up, bring others into play and is good in the air. Possibly the two best exponents in the premiership are Drogba and Berbatov, neither of whom we are going to get. The next rung is players like Carew, Jones and Crouch. I'd have any of them (Crouch has a much better international scoring record than Defoe by the way). If we lose one of Bent or Pav it wont really hurt us as they are pretty similar to each other or Defoe (who is better than either). Swapping Bent for a big man gives us much more flexibility in our tactics. Lets not forget our best two recent seasons combined a big lump (Mido) with one of Defoe/Keane. Back to Masterchef for me - hear we're after Iwan Thomas.
Reply to SCer:
What a fragile little sparrow you are. You started off asking a valid question only to lose your bottle and start calling people YOU sought to join, idiots.
Carew, isn't steel up front. He's a Heskey, he's a Mido, he's a very polished Championship player. If I loved Toon I'd wave a wand and get him to sign for them because he could do a job there.
Keep this nondescript tat away from my club.
Stone me, Carew? Do me a favour...
Reply to A_Felching:
Or second!
Lets be a bit more positive fellas. We do have quality all over the pitch already at the club. It would be nice to have a summer where we don't make major changes over a summer and just add a couple.
Also people like huddlestone who being linked with a move away look like they are working hard too. See LINK
With so much money spent in january we were never going to burn a trail in this summers market anyway.
COYS!
Are we ever going to be able to compete again? We missed our opportunity when we got kicked out of the UEFA Cup and lost in the final of the Carling Cup. We have to accept that players are only interested in Europe and large over inflated wage packets.
What chance do have when Citeh can offer that tart from chelsea 200K plus.
Perhaps somebody on the board needs to win the lottery rollover.
Or we need some rich arab to buy us out.
Reply to A_Felching:
So he could legitimately park in disabled spaces?
LINK
Stuttgart "are believed to be the only club so far to have matched the Madridistas' valuation of" Huntelaar. WTF r we doing? 20m euros for a player like this? LEVY: get your finger out and relax the wage structure.
I for one think that Harry is spreading a LOT of misinformation this summer to keep quiet what he's really going for - there was a lot of noise about Cisse, he's buggered off to Greece now, there was also noise about Pennant (no way we'll buy him, other than to sell him in January for a profit), Ryan Shawcross, blah blah blah. I still trust in Harry but I think that his big problem is how to get rid of Robbie Keane, who was a panic buy to save us from relegation (cannot blame Harry for this, it was the right thing to do at the time) and who takes up (a) captaincy; (b) wages; (c) important place in the squad and first XI. If Sunderland come in for him, god bless them, we'll really be able to go for a top striker who'll improve us.
Also, I think we should all lay off Pavlyuchenko. OK, he could have made more effort to learn some English but the buy had not had a break forever before he joined us and he still looked more than decent, I think that he's potentially a top striker and I'd be extremely sorry to see him leave.
Reply to PLN:
PLN, with all due respect, not being in Europe next year is neither here nor there. Rarely are great players available and if we can get one in and mould play around them then why not? The Hunter admittedly isn't the type of player we need right now to optimise the other elements of our strike force. However Rude vN is available and whilst he would probably cost a fair bit more than John Carew, would be immense in what he brings to the fold other than sell on value after a few years.
We need the right psychological mix as well as a physical/technical mix in the team. Having a proven goal scorer would not only lift the morale of the existing first teamers, but would motivate and inspire the fringe/youth players to break through.
I fear that whilst Carew could bring the right physical presence, his additiona wouldn't make as much of a difference as that of an RvN.
You simply can't take away the god-given-right to dream from a fellow yid. That is sacrilege.
Reply to glenwasgod:
Your right about Villa fans not wanting to loose him, they have got the right hump!
I cannot believe how much stick Martin O'Neil is getting on there too, I always rated him.
LINK
...and I thought we were fickle!!
Reply to munso:
erm...sorry, its that cheap crack im on!
Stuggart from Real
Reply to blackrat1299:
keep faith people, no point in worrying too much about other teams, this season is all about what our players can achieve. It's all very well if City's line-up ends up looking really pretty on paper but (using my "god-given-yiddish-right to dream") I believe we could not only beat them on the day, but realistically do enough over the course of the season to finish above them. (for now, at least!)
i feel this way about all the teams around us, perhaps even includin the Scum. perhaps i'm dreaming too much, but I've seen all our boys do good things under Harry.
Our season isn't about how good other teams do, but how consistantly we can show the ability we know we have.
Reply to munso:
Christ, they are wearing out MON in Villaville!
For something rumored, but hasn't actually happened.
" have a nagging feeling that Arry's response to why we're being linked with second stringers is going to be a rambling, vaguely apologetic mumble about 'lack of options', 'wage restrictions' and 'no european footy' (tick/delete as appropriate)."
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Haha, so true!
Reply to munso:
'erm...sorry, its that cheap crack im on!'
Source????
it seems to be that 'our arry' doesnt have wot it takes to be a manager 'at a big club'if this is your last chance harry then you better start taking it.having the ability to get the best out of past it or overated players is one thing but attracting and then controlling top class is totally different!Or am i being naive in beleiving that the club want to progress and really got harry in to keep us best of the rest for a pitance and wont keep spending everything selling our best players generates.
I can see us being in the same predicament as the arse soon in having a great stadium but not having the cash to get the quality to fill it
god im bored!!!
just seen a strange headline on bbc.wigan close on swanseas scotland,id throw that sat nav away!!
obviously still bored!!
Wages we pay or fee's we pay shouldnt really matter. To say take Carew for £40k a week but not £60k is irrelevant.
He's decent, exceptionally good in the air and would be a brilliant target man if we had Lennon, Modric, Defoe, Keane all feeding of him. Also, he'll be playin second fiddle to Pavs. Big season ahead for him. I can sense it just by looking at those photos on the official site where he looks like hes about to cough up a lung. The big Russian jessy would be our weapon this year. Remember the goals he scored last season. 3 against liverpoo & one against Man U where he left Vidic for dead.
Breaking news on the official Sunderland site. PSB is supposed to be elated at finally joining the club he dreamed about playing for as a foetus. LINK
I keep saying patience but like you harryhotspur I'm really getting pissed off....
it's probably going to be shit this year as we have had problems with our scouting set up.
It's better to get 3 good, effective signings than 2 out of 6 and blowing a lot of money like in the past! We've always been envious of harry's
signings in the past - how fucked up would it be if he can't get decent players to spurs?????
If we don't see the likes of huntelaar or maxi rodreguez what's the fucking point!!
spiralling................
why the f@ck are we as a nation obsessed with the footballing dinosaur that is "big man little man" i am probrably wrong but has there been premier league champions that hve played that way in say the last 5yrs
Reply to RJ1882:
agree about a big season for Pav, once it kicks off the excuses this year of "back-to-back seasons" or "time to settle" wont be valid, so we can truely judge him on what he delivers for. He's shown signs of proper class, the sorta class i think we are screaming out for in a striker, but they were far too fleeting. Wanna see him step up and answer his doubters...
Reply to Trembly:
Whoops. Should really check to see what the link is before clicking send. This is the link with the breaking news! LINK
The other one was for a fancy French place on Park Lane that my mate works at and has promised to sort me out a champagne and lobster dinner when we next see him.
Reply to munso:
Reply to m:
Names aren't everything. Quality and team fit is. The reason we've done so woefully whilst shitting money is because we've had people in charge of the transfers who didn't see the big picture in terms of team development.
Sunderland think they have bagged a bargin
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Done deal, things just have to be ratified by both sides. All agreed verbally by both clubs and the player, things just have to be made official. Theres no rush for things to be announced as lots from both sides are on holiday but it WILL go through.
Canny addition IMO - £8m + add ons.
Reply to ishmael:
Wanna see him step up and answer his doubters...
...in English preferably.
Reply to Trembly:
I agree, he has to deliver from the word go. Luckily we've Liverpool first, a team he scored 3 against last year, so hopefully thats a confidence boost before kick-off. When Defoe returned he and Pavs initially struck up a good partnership, so I'm looking forward to see how that developes.
Arshavin, Zhirkov and Pavs are definitely Russias three best. I also take alof of what Hiddink said about him into account. Hiddink knows football, and recommends Pav highly, so I think we can look forward to a big season from him.
Pity we didnt have David Bentley from 2 years ago floating balls onto his head and not that tosser Blackburn fobbed off on us.
Carew would be a good buy if he wasn't prone to injuries. He is good and would be a good partner for our other diminutive strikers.
However, what happened to Huntelaar?
Reply to enormenuez:
We are shite, that is why he would not come
Reply to RJ1882:
Also a huge season for Lennon, he made huge improvements last season, lets hope he's spent the summer learning how to float balls exactly how Bentley used to. I feel having Bentley sat on the bench is just the inspiration Lennon needs, so hopefully more improvements please Mr Lennon.
Reply to nick:
How does one determine that Redknapp doesn't have what it takes to manage a big club?
Nothing strange hasn't happened this summer except for the departure of Zokora, which was expected and the impending one of Bent. Other than that we've done well. We aren't buying a rash of players and flogging first teamers like we did last season.
If you are basing it upon the tabloid news of who were "associated" to then you are gravely mistaken. Redknapp stated that we only needed 3 players at the end of the season, I would say 4 after the loss of Zokora, maybe 5.
We cannot be delusion, our competition in the transfer marker will be Villa, Everton and Foolham and that who are supposed targets are being attached too. Thanks to Citeh and Madrid everyone is being overly cautious and rightfully so. Example, Benzema was just unveiled for £35m.
I could care less if we got Downing, if it happens then so be it. As long as we aren't paying silly money. Anything beyond £8m would be silly. He would fill the void on the left and allow Modric to play a central role. It also allows us to no rely on Jenas so we have him for the entire season.
Let the silly season continue.
Reply to QuietAtTheLibrary:
rebrov, postiga, rasiak, kaboul, bentley and the ghetto prince ate them. Nom, nom. Who'd I forget?
Now back to the Delorean young Marty McFly.
We may as well start with what we had last season, no point signing players for the sake of it, develop what we have, why swap Bent for Carew? no brainer, Bent will score more, Pav will hold play up a bit better this season, no one will expect us to get top 6 let alone near the top 4 so no pressure.
Arry will have his excuses at the ready and live on the glory that we had 2 points from ATE games which to be fair he can have.
No point strengthening teams around us if they aren't going to pay top dollar for our players because it will cost us a fortune to replace them and we haven't got any dosh after the managerial fuck ups over the last few years.
If Jol was given the budget to buy who HE wanted that we have spent over the last couple of seasons we would be banging on the top 2 let alone top 4.
Reply to David:
David your a prat,Redknapp and co did a great job last season, and has he come out an said he wants any of the players you have listed for signings for next season. We were signing cisse,brown from celtic etc etc .Just wait and see, i think you a gooner.
i dont know why people get so worked up about what we should or shouldnt pay people in wages, i think its irrelivant, we should pay the wages for the top players end of, if we got these top players and happen to win something noone would then say "yer but they paid far too much in wages", when utd one league and champs league last year did any of us say but yer they were playin them players silly money?
nah because if you spend the money and it pays off it doesnt matter its not money from your pocket or bank account, yer the club has to pay within it means but if its gunna put them out of business they wouldnt f*ckin do it would they?
im also starting to think some fans arent gunna be happy with any signings we make unless its huge £20million coup, like tevez ashley young robben etc but we neeed to look at the bigger picture and realise some of these players we are being linked to would infact improve the squad, i would rather have crouch than pav, and weve gotta be in the real world here, if a player has got the choice of a champions league club or citys money or us they are gunna choose the others, these players dont have the loyaltys and ties to spurs we do, so i think we are gunna have to make do with some of these players we are being linked to and stop holding out for the, superstars we think we are entitled to
Reply to ITK:
i hope you are right but something tells me its nonsense...prove me wrong ITK, reveal your source
how depressing, we are a laughing stock my friends. Im already getting the 'top 4 this year then?' jibes
Reply to johnny 2 hats:
Go on Harry Ram it up him/her
Reply to jolsgonemental:
It's shut, you're looking through a bullet hole.
At least Harry is not just IMPULSE BUYING like a lot of previous managers. He's taking his time, weighing up all the options and I have every confidence we will improve the squad with some quality buys before the window closes. Have faith fellow yidos, look at what Arry did for us last season, we have to trust in him, he is a seasoned manager who knows exactly what he's doing.
I would welcome Peter Crouch, he will score goals and links up well with Defoe, the fans would love him to i'm sure.
COYS!!!
I remember my grandad then my dad telling me how they had lost interest in football because of the money players were getting paid and how the game had lost touch with the fans. I honestly believe we will go full circle in the years to come, people will lose interest, refuse to pay for replica shirts and match tickets. Even refuse to pay for sky sports. We will return to the dark ages of football (the 1980's). How we the fans can accept our players kissing the badge and earning tens (even hundreds) of thousands of pounds a week then leave for another club for even more money is beyond me. Especially when we struggle to be able to afford to pay for our tickets etc. And for what? To support our so called 'loyal' players who are always desperate to play for the so called 'top four' when given the slightest chance. Look at how we supported the likes of campbell and carrick. Even Berbatov. Are we not mugs of the highest order? And how the hell has the champions league become of more importance to 'football fans' then the premier league and FA cup?!!
Reply to David:
i'll be honest. It's people like our good old friend dave here that makes think all spurs fans are tools(obviously not all). Of these list of players, how many have we signed? Last season, how many dean ashton's were we rumoured to be signing? At the end of the day where the fuck are you coming from slaggin off harry's transfer dealings, when since he's been with us he hasn't made a bad one. He knows spurs ambitions, he's well aware of this ridiculous need to please overambitious fans, that's why he won't buy if he can't improve. Some people may choose to bring up chimbo, we paid next to nothing for a player that cover every defensive position, handy considering our shaky defence at that time. Under harry we began winning games and we also started getting the ball down and playing the ball with purpose, things we lacked under the 'hotshot' you describe as ramos.
If we do sign a downing or a crouch, great because it'll be the downing or the crouch that will take us to the next level, and no that's not 4th place, it's a stable 5/6 that we need at present. Without european football we're never going to attract proven talent, mayb a mix of a sure thing of downing and a gamble with an unknown from abroad we can have a really exciting season, and an exciting season doesn't just mean CHAMPIONS BLOODY LEAGUE!
A list of the players we are now interested in according to ITK's and Newsnow.
LINK
there's a strong rumour going around that darren bent will be a sunderland in the next few days so i think we need a striker maybe somebody like lorente of aletico bilbao who can bring players into play and also scores alot of goals
2 things to remember me thinks -
1 'arry said we wouldn't be buying from the relegated clubs -this clearly excludes the Downing option & anyway he's injured.
2 Mr.Levy has said we need to sell before we can buy - with only Zokora gone for ' an undisclosed fee' mefinks we're a few sales away from buying anyone worth more than a candle...
were always in the market for a bargain! what a bargain they all turned out aye..loads of players bought for 5-15 million now all worth much less! berbatov, carrick, lennon, modric ect for examples good buys and good value. but bent, bently, pav ect waste of money. take maybe 2-3 players who we wasted money on and we could of bought 1 star at the lane.
its quite obvious the best striker floating around is huntelaar, but we are too tight to up with the reddies. knowing us we will spend what he would cost on 2 players that turn out crappy bench warmers...whats the point????????
Such a lot of angst at the moment, everyone seems very gloomy and down in the mouth at our prospects about next season.
After the inflated expectations of seasons gone past, this is only a good thing imo, we could actually fly under the radar of our own fans for once!
I remain confident that we have a very good squad, and even if we weren't to buy anyone else whilst trimming in the sales a couple of other squad members, that's just fine with me.
I'm not opposed to a Carew type player joining, paying $10m is ridiculous for a player of his age and injury record. Any signing we make should bring balance to the squad, is something different from what we already have and ideally a bit of winning mentality and nous!
Just like any profession, if you want top quality staff (or players) you've got to pay top quality wages...As the old adage goes...
Pay Peanuts Get Monkeys!
Hey folks. Im from Norway, and i really dont hope we sign Carew. I have watched him play more than the most of u guys, i think..
I know he have scored pretty many goals i the PL, but trust me; He is on a upp now, and will get worse.
Just see how many clubs he have been to the last years.
Here you can see the clubs he have been to, and games + goals:
2000-2004: Valencia: 84(20)
2003–2004: Roma (loan): 20(6)
2004-2005: Besiktas 24(13)
2005-2007: Lyon 35(10)
2007-2009: Aston Villa Kamper 70(27)
IF we sign John, i KNOW you are going to think 1000 of times that he is one CLUMSY bastard...!
PLEASE HARRY DONT SIGN CAREW!
Reply to SCer:
Finally some sense...Carew second rate? He is in fact really fast, Incredible strong, good ball control, good header and can take players on with amazing solo runs...
He is not the best finisher, but a decent goalscorer and team player.
We would be blessed to have him in our team, alongside defoe.
Wow..spurs fans really do deserve their bad reputation
-SpursFan-
Reply to Gazza:
IF we sign John, i KNOW you are going to think 1000 of times that he is one CLUMSY bastard...!
Naahh..ask a Villa fan and you would get a different response, or just watch their matches. You cant judge Carew only by watching the national team. Where everyone seem, as you say, like clumsy bastards..pure crap! But "Drillo" will turn it around..eventually
Even on the national team, we all know, he is our single biggest attacking threat.
In my book, he is among the 20 best strikers in the world..but no spring chinken(29)
So i agree the asking price is a little bit high.
"In my book, he is among the 20 best strikers in the world.."
By any chance would your top twenty also include Wee Jimmy Krankie, Edward Woodward and the late Harold Shipman?
No doubt 'Arry will then say all the fans are stupid and that this player or tht offers something we need, just like he did with Bellamy.
Simple fact is we don't need that many, but I'm starting to strggle as to who the few good men will be.
Bad, pointless article!
IF and I say IF this rumour is true it would be a masterstroke!
Carew is second to only Drogba in being the best target man in the premiership, and if you dont agree you tell me who is better? Carew would link up so well with Defoe, and offers us so much more then Pav, He can hold up the ball really well, great in the air, and chips in with fair amount of goals, and is vastly expirienced.
sure he's injury prone but so is Woody, would you be happy if we sold Woody because of this?
Whats wrong with you idiots!
Reply to newbz:
Harry's transfers since he got here have all been spot on? Now, now - time for your medicine, son.
Robbie Keane - £15 mill
As panic buys go, this will be one of the more useless and costly. Sold Robbie to LFC for £20.3 mill but still paid £15 mill to resign him. Will be lucky to get £10-12 mill if we sell him on (as we must: his wages are way too high for him to be sat on the bench). This will result in a net loss of appr. £5 mill.
(5 goals - one million a piece)
Pascal Chimbonda - £3 mill
Don't even try. Pascal's useless across the back four.
(3 games - 1 million a piece)
"I'd rather have a no-name surprise package than a Shit-Name disappointment."
hahaha brilliant and my sentiments exactly
I wish sites would stop writing total and complete b*****ks like this.
The “places” you refer to as “word from two different places” are they the toilet and your rse??
£10m for a 29 year old goes totally against the Xfer policy which we have at the moment of buying young promising players with a potential high re-sale value.
Its pretty gloomy who Spurs are being linked with at the moment but stuff like this doesn’t help.
This also goes for the rumours of us being linked with Ricahrd Dunne- is there a worse defender in the premiership, his gaffe’s are comical-such as when we beat City up there last season.
If ‘Arry has any sense he’ll break the bank to get Wesley Sniejder and Rafael Van Der Vaart but realistically they can pick and choose who they go to as we cant offer European football next season.
Lets just hope we can keep hold of Modders
Reply to KiwiYid:
Listen, sonny. The bid was made. If you don't like that fact then by all means say so, but please, spare us all the 'I know better' routine.
The transfer window. It's like someone stuck a big sign on the Internet marked STROPPY TWONKS REQUIRED APPLY WITHIN.
On your f***ing way.
It's not all doom and gloom... Harry and we know that a decent top 6 finish would be a nice solid season after sending much of last season in the bottom three!!!
Rome wasn't built in a day and Harry has lots of players he probably feels are good enough and lots he doesn't but he can't just spin everything round in one summer transfer window...
It seems he wants strong athletic players to compliment Modric, Lennon and Defoe who are all small but tricky players. He wants the right blend which we all know we haven't got right yet.
Let's not expect too much and look a strong league place and a go at one of the cups. Unless of course anyone knows any Russian or Arab business men with a multi billion pound personal fortune that will pay for us to get in the top 4?? It's that simple...
Carew is immense! Purpose built for the Prem.
You're an ignorant bunch you Spurs lot. Maybe you should stop getting your opinions from the back of newspapers and Football Manager!? Its all about the glamour... Chasing Scarlett Johansson all night... then going home with Babs Windsor...
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Thats not a very nice thing to say about your mum. Ps i also have f**ked your mum and she was sh*t
Reply to kiwiyid:
And I've shagged your mum and your sister. Every time I did, they gave me a biscuit. That's why I weigh 94 stone.
Reply to yiddo4ever:
spot on !!
i actually think thing's will have to get worse before they get better regarding the money in football .
it can't realisticly continue like this as like you say they are distancing themselves further and further from the average man in the street and that will eventually turn them away .....perhaps to grassroots more local football ....but probably to beer and other lesiure pursuits .
the only thing that allows this ridiculous money to continue is the mass appeal of the game which will dwindle of this continues .
don't get me wron the premiership is a great product (prob the best in europe) but any league that allows wages like
seth johnson (leeds) 40 k per week
daniel sturridge (chelsea) 60 k per week
winston bogarde (chelsea) 40 k per week
lucas neil 90 k per week
highlights the madness eh ??
i work hard and at 27 am barely earning more than 12 k per year
i just about afford sky + . and i love spurs more than i can say .....but am sickened by the greed and lack of loyalty by some players ...matt le tissier probably one of the few exceptions .
we as fans would give anything to pull on the shirt ..and players should remind themselves just how luck they are to be playing the beautifull game for a living .
end of rant . : )
Sorry lads but Carew is top notch.
I for one hope this deal comes off.
Carew is a lump and fits nicely into a team that likes to play the Wimbledon way. If that's what you want from Spurs be my guest. We can flog the midfield coz we won't need 'em. Woody and Ledders can boot it long from defence straight onto his granite like bonce. Same goes for Crouch. And we can sit and watch us struggle in midtable next season too. Oh yeah, either Crouch or Carew would obviously improve our team immensely...not....
You like to get your point across with humor and sarcasm..I get it.
In my opinion there are few top tier, world class strikers, in todays football.
Torres, Villa, Benzema, Rooney, Berbatov, Etoo, Ibrahimovic, Tevez, Drogba, Aguero
Maybe Gomez, Nistelrooy , Anelka, Huntelaar, Fabiano, Forlan
Behind theese you have many players in the same catagory
Like Pandev, Dzeko, Gignac, Toni(getting old) etc...and yes, Carew
This is top of my head, so I have probably left out a great deal of players (out and out strikers).
My point is that in the second tier of "world class players" Carew is one of the best in my book, and would be ideal for us to acheive some balance in our attacking options.
We could get lucky and do a "Klinsmann" and get Huntelaar, that would be a scoop..but not likely.
Our realistic options are limited, and Im am not sure Carew is relistic either. He is a growing legend at Villa Park, and after the Barry transfer the fans would be furious..
So your opinion and valuation of Carew is far between mine..I would certainly agree to that.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
"In my book, he is among the 20 best strikers in the world.."
By any chance would your top twenty also include Wee Jimmy Krankie, Edward Woodward and the late Harold Shipman?
My post above was ofcourse intended to HarryHotspur.
Reply to 33-Legend:
Good stuff.
I'll still maintain JC is a glorified plinth, but the proof of the pudding and all that...