Saturday, 10 January 09, 06:47 AM · Comments (531)
Further to an earlier blog and with the demise of the Downing deal, that perhaps never really was, Stephen Hunt is now very much in Redschnapp's sights.
His cost can be estimated around about the six million mark. This being the amount required to trigger the release deal in his contract. He's a natural left footer, great grafter and can cross a ball as well as track back and tackle. Hell, he sweeps as he cleans.
Sport.co.uk reported that Tottenham scouts have been watching Hunt Glamour side Wigan are reportedly interested as were Everton who previously sniffed around the player, but they may have more interest in addressing their striker issues.
I can tell you Reading have already offered to double his wage in an attempt to get him to stay …
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he is a grafter!!! not the best player tho
I dont see that Hunt is any better than our Jamie O'Hara - I wouldn't want to see Jamie's nose put out of joint - he is the one player with Tottenham written all over him - not like Mr Bentley!!!
isnt the guy responsible for making Peter Cech look like a cyclist with his gay helmet! then thats enough for me.
I heard from someone who knows his agent that hunt will sign if downing doesn't.
Would be a great signing for us. He works his socks off and he produces an end product more often than not, pops up with goals too. We are a side that has lacked fight in midfield and by signing Hunt & Appiah allied to Jamie O'Hara's obvious passion Harry will be going some way to addressing that. For ÂŁ6m IMO he'd be a great signing and one that gives us a few more options in midfield.
One more not..... Why do we keep slagging Bentley. Ok the boy has not been having the best of times lately but thats when we should be supporting him NOT booing him. By booing him it makes us no better than that shower of arseholes from the emarites.
I like stephen Hunt, I think he would b e a great addition to the squad and a natural Left footer !!!! For 6M thats gotta be a better punt than Downing, I still can't believe we were in for him, never rated him and as for Southgate saying Spurs aren't good enough for him... the Cucking Funt ! Boro are in a relegation dogfight ever season !!!
We have gone from Arshavin to Downing and now Hunt ,welcome to the new shopping at Pollards with Redknapp holding the cheque book
In a relegation struggle you need grafters - and Hunt fits this bill unlike Downing. I'd go for him definitely. Especially as he has silly hair too!
F*ck me Scott Carson is SHOCKING!
Ok i missed the 'y' out of every, you get what I mean tho !! Does anyone know if we're still interested Arshavin ??? Can't stand the thought of Arse signing him and then him be a sensation !! and more than likely scoring a hat-trick against us !!!!
Good man jamie....
No more Zokora bashing from you then,
that is until the unquestionable talent that is Appiah
actually proves his fitness, proves his loyalty to our club,
adopts to the English game and proves he can get his form back to where it was?
Remember, Zokora was also going to be the DM Messiah when we signed him and before anyone had actually seen him play for Spurs. Sometimes it doesn't work out according to the hype we bestow on every successive transfer gamble we take.
Beware the double standard old chap.
Arshavin = Trouble (his agent & Zenit are jokers)and overpriced, Not a left winger.
Downing = OVERPRICED!!!!
Hunt = Battler, grafter, produces an end product, will improve an area we lack depth in.
Reply to zok's jock strap:
I don't hate Zokora by a long shot.
If you look in the dictionary under LIMITED, you'll see a picture of Zokora. He just simply isn't good enough.
Compare his international record and crudentials to that of Appiah's and Zokora wouldn't hold a candle to Appiah.
WHAT HAS ZOKORA GIVEN US in the 2/3years he's been with us? Aside from ineptitude in midfield and 0 goal threat EVER.
Couldn't agree more Jamiespurs, think Hunt is exactly what we need 'a battler' think we should plunder afew other championship clubs as most championship players HAVE to be Battlers because the Championship is such a tough league - Much tougher than the Premiership anyway. I like Michael Kightly from Wolves. I could see Arshavin doing a Berbatov and using us to get a foothold in this league and then wanting out after one season. Still think we need another striker tho.
Reply to jamiespurs:
i don't remember ever thimking zokora was going to be a DM messiah...where on earth did you hear that....
he came from saint etienne...for a whopping ÂŁ8.6m apparently
very good 'arry.
who's this k2 that people were mentioning in the last post?
Reply to jamiespurs:
and if you look just below that you'll see a picture of Hunt..
honestly, to this transfer i say thanks but no thanks..
Grafter? yes but that's about it..
having said that i would gladly take him ahead of Downing who is neither a grafter nor talented..
it amazes me that just because he's English and is left-footed... ah f*ck it i don't want to get into this..
suffice to say i wouldn't spend more than ÂŁ2m on him..
Reply to KOJAC:
that's to zokora's jock strap.....not you jamiespurs...
Reply to KOJAC:
Zokora WAS NEVER going to be a DM messiah!! He's a very naughty boy!
But in all seriousness, Damian Comolli's transfer shortcomings were rather blatantly exposed in the signing of Zokora! ÂŁ8.6M for him is ridiculous, the guy can barely pass, can't shoot and struggles to make good tackles.
Thanks Damian!
Reply to jamiespurs:
I also agree with the LIMITED tag.
In fact given our recent history I would much rather we hadn't tossed Mendes out with the bath water (if this is the correct metaphor I am grasping for) when Carrick was given the mantle of our long term solution as the holding midfield position, only to piss off at the first whiff of top dollar.... only to be replaced by an overhyped, limited African Nations International, i.e Zokora.
I believe in learning from our mistakes. I hope Appiah fulfills his potential and becomes a monster for us in the centre of the park for many years to come BUT for now he is competition for Zokora until he proves himself as capable. Let's not repeat history by disposing of very good professionals on the mere promise that another unproven big name star MAY bring to the side.
Bimi
Hunt is far from limited. The guy has been Reading's stand out player for the last 3 seasons and his effort, endeavour, fight and graft is allied to the fact he produces goals and can set them up too.
For the very fact we were going to pay ÂŁ15m for Downing, ÂŁ6m for Hunt is a good investment in my eyes.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Did you need to consult a dictionary for the meaning of the word 'limited'? Now look up irony.
Reply to zok's jock strap:
Appiah is far from a big name star. He's no primadonna, you don't play for the teams he's played for and captain your country at the world cup and African Cup of Nations competitions ahead of Essien & Muntari if you aren't very very good.
Lets face it, if Appiah is fit and firing then he's a million times better than Zok. No-one EVER hyped Zok up, he came to us with an alright reputation but it was pretty obvious from day one that he wasn't the man to push us forwards.
Reply to Pezza:
Yeah your right we should really be looking at Championship players because they are really going to get us knocking on the door of the top four .If you buy Shite you get Shite ,if they were any good they would not be in the lower league
Reply to stoney:
Just checked my dictionary for 'irony'. Got the correct meaning. While I was there I looked up 'MORON' You'll be pleased to know that a picture of you still sits proudly beneath it.
Reply to jamiespurs:
agreed on the money part..
if he comes well and good.. i'll get behind him.. but he's not good enough.. there's a reason he's playin in the championship..
it amazes me how Craig Bellamy's potential transfer was met with such fierce opposition (and rightly so) for being an utter c*nt..
and yet we would welcome this pr*ck to the Lane.. and that's what he is.. a pr*ck..
what he did Peter Cech was disgusting.. and it's not an isolated incident either..
at Tottenham, we can do better..
and that's coming from an Irishman..
god i miss Steed.. i'll never forgive Comolli, Ramos or Levy for letting him go..
Reply to zok's jock strap:
no one wants to throw zokora in the dustbin...we all like him and he is a great squad man covering all defensive postions...full of running with a good positive attitude and if he wants he can become a good solid spurs man.....but seriously he is not the man to conduct our play from the middle of the park which should be the minimum requirement of a central midfield player....whether they are defensive,attacking,all singing and dancing whatever....distribution is a must...
Reply to Bimmi:
I miss Steed too mate. I actually see Jamie O'Hara turning into a 'Steed' figure. He's a fighter who never gives in, sets up goals and scores goals too. I actually think if JOH can keep maturing at Spurs then he's future captain material.
I really don't think we can hold the Petr Cech incident against Hunt. He's a player that plays hard, yes he went in late on Cech but I'm pretty sure he never meant to break the guys skull.
i'd rather see jenas or modric play on the left than others mentioned. if money no object - ribery
Reply to jamiespurs:
Being READING'S stand out player is hardly a recommendation. Agree that I would rather waste 6 mill on Hunt than 15 mill on Downing and Hunt does put it about a bit which we need. Has he got pace ?
Kojac
Completely agree mate. I'd keep Zok as a squad player as he s very versatile and vey useful. What I'm saying is that he's not good enough to be the main man in the middle for us.
However..... if someone offered us ÂŁ10m for them I'd personally deliver him to his destination.
ODM,
Saw him play aghainst Watford last night. He's got pace. Not burning pace but he's got a decent speed on him.
I'm actually wanting Villa to win at the moment. I feel dirty!
Reply to Bimmi:
Fuck Cech he got what was coming to him ,it`s a mans game if you go out there it goes with the game .That is what has been missing from our midfield some steel .
Reply to brian:
Jamie o'hara is no way a left winger, he may become a good center midfielder in time but he hasn't the pace to be a winger, stephen hunt has more pace.
You're joking aren't you mate ! Top four my arse, I hate to say it but I can't see us challenging the top four for a few more seasons, right now we are in a relegation fight ! wake up !! top players will not come to a team 2 points from the foot of the table! they want champions league football, we'll be lucky if we finish mid table this year, if results go against us and we loose to wigan, which is likely imo we could be bottom tomorrow night - Fighters is what we need right now not technically gifted light-weight players with floppy hair and who wear gloves because its cold !!!!!!
Reply to jamiespurs:
to be honest Jamie i wouldn't be surprised if he meant to KILL Peter Cech..
and a couple of weeks after that i recall him going in late a couple of times on Paul Robinson at the Lane..
you have to listen to this guy talk to really see what he's like.. ie he's crazy.. and i mean not well in the head..
he was on an Irish chat show a while back and some of the stuff he was sayin was just plain wierd..
does this take away from his footballing "prowess"??? no.. but like i said.. no thanks.. (unless the alternative is Downing)
as for O'Hara?? Captain?? not a chance..
but you're right.. the only thing..absolute ONLY thing Jamie has going for him is that he's never afraid to give everything he has.. not afraid to get on the ball even if he makes a mistake.. and i admire that in a player..
now compare that to Jenas.. well you see what i mean..
LINK My new midfield Hunt, Zokora ,Appaih and O`Hara go and kick lumps out of them .
I can't say I've noticed the boy hunt particularly but if he's our 2nd choice after downing it doesn't bode well. Unless of course he's 2nd choice like jol was our 2nd choice after santini. Wait and see. I feel our magnificent club's developing the whiff of mediocrity again. Hope I'm very wide of the mark and 'Arry has what it takes.
Go on the villa ish.
Reply to Bimmi:
Roy Keane was MENTAL and look at what an immense player he became. Unhinged but definitely a great player.
I seriously feel that O'Hara has it in him to become captain. He's got age on his side and a burning love and passion for Tottenham which shines through when you watch him play. If he keeps on improving then why can't he become captain?
o'hara is good, and is well loved for his clear passion and pride, however he is not a true left sided midfielder. Hunt would be a good signing. the sort of player we need to ensure that in this crazy seasson we don't get caught out and end up playing in div 2 next year.
Even if, as some suggest he is no better than o'hara(a view not shared by myself), at least we would double our options down the left.
One thing I don't understand is why appy arry doesn't throw lennon down the left and keep bentley on the right? If my memory serves me correctly lennon has put in some good performaces for us down the left in the past.
I think Hunt could be a great signing. He really brings something new to the team.
The same with Appiah, but I must say Zokora has been playing a lot better since Harry came.
Anything about Bent's future? If he leaves we really need an other striker who can play in the UEFA-cup.
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
you're an idiot..
no doubt if he did it to a Tottenham 'keeper you'd be calling for the re-introduction of the death penalty..
Right ladies and gentlemen. I'm off.
Reply to jamiespurs:
because i think he won't get the chance because he's not good enough..
Roy Keane was probably the best midfielder in Europe in his prime.. he was not unhinged at all.. rebellious? yes.. but unhinged?? no.. that's a stupid statement Jamie..
Reply to jamiespurs:
Looked it up for you dictionary issue boy:
Moron (noun): One who types unintentionally hilarious nonsense like this:
"AND as for ranting NONSENCE you might want to get some grammar and try using a spellchecker the next timke you think about writing a post!"
Reply to Bimmi:
Hunt is one of the scummiest cunts about.
Reply to Pezza:
You need look no further than Levy for the mess he has brought on us .He should be jailed for crimes against Spurs .
Let's hope Hunt isn't a re-run of Andy Reid. Jamie O'Hara is an old-fashioned inside left - the problem with 4-4-2 is that it works against the talents that some people have.
I like Hunt, see him lots when he plays for ireland, he,s all action, hassles and harries all day long, can shoot, decent delivery, and my personal favourite: can leave his studs in the opposing midfielders shin pads. Occasionly gets the odd red card for same offence but sometimes you need that! He's an honest worker and with respect to JOH i think he has better skills. And he is cheap by todays standards, so we can spend 9 mill on someone else!
Reply to MikeJ:
i hate this shit..
Hunt is Irish so he must be the new Reid..
Pavlyuchenko is Russian so he must be the new Rebrov..
yadda yadda yadda...
honestly is this what passes for football knowledge these days??
Reply to Bimmi:
Roy Keane is and always will be a good for nothing wanker ,who is an embarrassment to his country .I would expect as much an Irish man on hear trying to talk up Roy Keane ,you boys have no back bone he walked away and did not want to play for Mcarthy because he was English .
Reply to Bimmi:
Apparently I do on 606. A damning piece of news
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Lescott? Great centre half i tink most people wud agree? Came from the championship.
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
do you honestly beleive that?? god you're just compounding your ignorence of all things football.. i got a good laugh out of that comment coz you actually think you know what your taking about..
go on... wow me with your logic regarding that situation..
Reply to Bimmi:
Have to disagree there Bimmi, roy keane was known to have serious psychiatric issues as evidenced by stories from fellow professionals about his quite psychotic episodes where he would verbally attack his own teammates and players of other clubs with a viciousness and level of aggression way outside the bounds of 'normal'. He was once even seen to slag off - to the astonishment of those around - jamie redknapp who is generally regarded as one of the nicest and professionally generous people in the game. Drink often had a roll to play but never the less.
Reply to ciarank:
There is nothing wrong with players from the Championship ,It`s just that it has been a good many years since we shopped there .
Found this on the FIFA website about Appiah.
Anyone else translate it the same as me, in that he will not be allowed to play for two weeks after his registration is requested by a new club?
LINK=939088.html
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
And Hunt is by far the better player ..... !!!!!
How many more players do we want that look pretty but have no fight in them ...... Hunt has both in abundance ..........
I am thinking your more suited to supporting the blue scum in west london if all you want is names !!!
it really grates on me ..... !!! for years we have been saying we need players with fight ... harry gets linked with a few and what a surprise ... here come the knifes and all the DIVS saying we want Arshavin !!!
Get a F***ing grip !
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
I think there were two additional factors beyond McCarthy's nationality.
- but he is a brittle little man.
1. Keane is a cock
2. McCarthy is a cock
I would add that I agree with Jamiespurs to an extent. Unhinged may be strong - Are you HH in disguise
Sure, hard tackling icon on the park, but off the pitch Larry Grayson had more spine.
At the first sign of minor disagreement and he picks up his ball and and strops off home.
McCarthy was hardly Sir Alex in terms of My Way Or The Highway when dealing with players and yet Keane still couldn't cope.
His situation at Sunderland was a dream ticket for him surounded by friends and admirers. Yet the moment his scattergun purchasing policy was mildly questioned by them he burst into tears and ran away before he had to travel to Old Trafford.
Weak and cowardly on top of being a journeyman mananger.
The bloke in charge at Fulham has earnt greater respect.
Reply to Bimmi:
Did he not hop on a plane home because he could not and would not except instruction from Mick Mcarthy an Englishman
Reply to yidskin:
Point taken.
Could I respectfully ask that people aim personal abuse at me & not other readers.
Cheers.
Stephen Hunt???? What are we? A championship team??
Fucking hell.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
no personal abuse ............ just factS !
but fair enough .... x
Reply to jamiespurs:
You needed a dictionary to look up the meaning of the word 'moron' this time? You should check 'irony' again. And to think you call me a moron.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
disagree with all that H..
except for the 'McCarthy is a cock' statement.. spot on there..
if we were to get technical i would tell you that Keane was actually sent home and didn't leave..
but really he did leave... on a matter of principle.. a stand against the FAI (the real villains of the piece)..
i mean think about it.. denying himself his last chance of playing in a World Cup on a matter of principle is hardly the definition of a "brittle little man". surely if that was the case he would have rolled over and apologised..
i wouldn't say he'll ever be as good a manager as he was a player..
and journeyman manager having managed just one club??
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
what age are you? from that comment i'd say about 12..
unbelievable..
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
No, he left because of the state of the trainig facilities in Saipan, the shitty pitch, the fact the training equipment didnt turn up on time and because there was too much partying going on and not enough training.
Reply to ciarank:
thank you.. like i said, a matter of principle..
Reply to ToniMontana:
Very nearly! were only away from the championship on goal difference at the moment!
He left because he was good for nothing ,if he was there in front of you you get down on your knees and kiss his ring piece .I reckon you are a Manure fan and we are your second club you saddo
Reply to Bimmi:
He left because he was good for nothing ,if he was there in front of you you get down on your knees and kiss his ring piece .I reckon you are a Manure fan and we are your second club you saddo
Reply to ciarank:
This is a dig at Keane not you, ciarank
If all those reasons were bigger than the badge, bigger than the expectations of the Republic fans than why didn't McCarthy, the rest of the squad and the FAI follow his example and go home on the same plane?
Answer?
Because they weren't fragile little men.
History will judge Keane, not those thankful minority of Keane fans who have scarves with Man Utd one side and Sunderland on the other.
He was an immense player who's career then he nosedived into obscurity because he couldn't cut the mustard.
All the excuses in the world can't airbrush the facts.
Zokora has given us 120% attitude and being the only decent tackler in the middle, he has always been isolated. Players in his role hardly score as they always or mostly stay back during set pieces and corners. Players like Makelele and our dear Steffen Freund(never scored throughout his career)was never maligned by fans. Zokora also has been the most versatile utility player who can play in anywhere in the dafence a proven himself. Only racist morons and ingrates can fault such a player!Hunt is a good player and would do our midfield a lot of good.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Top man Harry tell it like it is
Check link below:
LINK
Not often you're wrong H...
but you're completely wide of the mark here (on the Saipan issue)
but at least you have some kind of grasp of reality unlike that other eejit saying Keane didn't want to play for McCarthy coz he was English..
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
so you're now agreeing that it was nothing to do with McCarthy being English??
and we're talking about Brittle little man???
Clown..
Reply to Bimmi:
Goodnight Bimmi,you make sure you don't put your Man Utd pyjama`s on the wrong way tonight
Reply to realspurs:
Well said mate.
He like BAE have really improved since Arry's come in. So all of you who love to hate these two players should calm down, and give the guys a chance.
I happen to be a Spurs fan who was born here (St.Mary's) and am originally from Ghana, and as someone here said, Appiah aint really a DM but will add alot to our midfield. Wouldve prefered we signed another ghanaian in that position (Anothony Annan) who is like the ghanaian Makelele. He's quality and wont cost much.
I think Hunt would be a good signin aswell, even though what he did to Cech was out of order.
COYS
Reply to perryman:
Well Harry, your right, history will tell, but for all the people on here dismissing him as a person and a manager, his teams managed to beat us at home for two seasons in a row, why? bacause were soft, soft as shite, and thats why we need to sign a player like Stephen Hunt.
And you can be fooking damn sure that if Roy Keane circa 1996-2000 was offered to spurs, we'd jump to take him, why? because he was a match winner, a prick maybe but who cares, he won the ball, won tackles and won games. Our midfield wouldnt win a raffle.
Now, are we signing hunt or not.
Reply to ciarank:
Well Said mate
Reply to ciarank:
If your Aunt had balls she`d be your Uncle enough of Keane a proper Pikey from the worst part of Cork who turned his back on his country .If an English player done what he did he would have to leave the country ,it shows how shallow some of his country men are when they would try to defend a traitor
Reply to ciarank:
Well said. And I hope so.One for the Reading Board, I guess.
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
*lifts skirt of snoozing aunt, sighs and goes back to Arsenal/Bolton game*
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Did she have any dangly bits?
Reply to ciarank:
i think that's the definitive point on this discussion..
Nick the Greek..I'm gonna take a leaf out of Dannyboy's book and say f*ck off you juvenile, pre-adolescent c*nt..
seems to be the only language these idiots understand..
next topic please..
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Dont like keane, didnt like him when he left our team at the world cup and i dont defend him, however, i did point out what he said were HIS reasons for leaving. 'From the worst part of Cork' so what?!
And Nick, Hunt, Yes or Fucking no?
Isn't it a coincidence that there is a high idiot rate on weekends and school holidays??
Realspurs:
'Only racist morons and ingrates can fault such a player!'
How the f*ck does race come into any of this?? Zokora just isn't good enough to be the main man in our midfield. He could be green, blue, black or white, he just isn't that good. He's a great squad player as his versatility offers us a lot of options around the pitch, but to be a regular in midfield it would really help if he could PASS!
Frontwheel
That post was a direct response to your idiot mate Realspur who has obviously been blinded by the trickery and mastery of Didier Zokora's football skills. He can barely use a keyboard so his opinions can't be all that fantastic can they?
Stoney - Why the pedantic argument? To be quite honest I don't even know what I possibly said that you could take umbrage to.
The simple fact is that even if Hunt is a nutter as Bimi keeps stating, if he would improve our squad then he's be a worthwhilw signing. For ÂŁ6m he'd be a far more reasonably priced addition than Downing.
Hunt would be a good signing for us
I have been arguing the case for Hunt for several weeks, not because he is a world beater but because his width and attitude are just what we need right now. He represents much better value for money than Downing.
O'Hara has a big heart and a sweet left foot but he is not a naturally wide player and he lacks the pace to play there. As a result he normally passes the ball sideways or backwards, which slows down attacks and/or can put our defenders under unnecessary pressure.
can't fault you on any of those points Jamie.. take maybe 2 or 3 mill off Hunt price and i'd take him..
and yes Zokora is shit.. anyone who tells you otherwise isn't worth talking to and you can be thankful isn't picking the team..
Hunt and another 10 like him please,I have lived in Ireland and just cant get my head around how that Rodent is still revered
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
yep. arshavin would be a cool signing.. hes incredible
mcbgb
Reply to Bimmi:
Not often we completely agree but on this one its 100% agreeance!
Reply to jamiespurs:
i thought you were gone for the day btw Jamie??
there's only so much you can do in a flat when its pissing with rain outside!
2-2 west ham newcastle
Kenywyn Jones's just scored too..
FUCK
Arsenal scored
F*ckin Bentner an all.. a truly shit player.. truly shit..
Results went our way today.
West brom LOST
west ham & newcastle DREW
Boro & Sunderland DREW
We need a win tomorrow
Reply to Bimmi:
He say`s in his Royston Keane Manure kit
1546: GOAL Middlesbrough 1-0 Sunderland
Afonso Alves flicks the ball to Stewart Downing down the Boro right and he surges forward before crossing for the Brazilian to rifle into the net from the edge of the box.
See what we're missing.........
Steve
one assist does not a winger make.
Reply to jamiespurs:
That's gonna piss Bentley off then!
Steve
"Stephen Hunt impressed, setting up the first two goals - Chris Armstrong volleying home in the first half and Noel Hunt converting from close range."
See what we're missing
Downing gives his shirt to someone in the crowd, rumour, rumour, mumble ,mumble, must be going so.
Reply to jamiespurs:
I'm not disagreeing..............I think we should have more Steve's, Stephen's, Steven's in the team. Bring on the Steve's!!
we all dream of a team of stevie steves a team of stevie steves
Reply to steve1987:
down the right???
Reply to jamiespurs:
Of course, there was the great Stevie P. but even he got stick off the Tottenham crowd.
There has always been an element at Spurs that would give certain players stick. It seems nothing has changed.
I remember Chris Waddle (who was one of my all time fav's) getting slated when he first joined the club (ala Bentley)
"I am Stephen"
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Dos Santos...
left footed, fast, skilfull and a finisher. Does he not even deserve a chance?
I'm strating to get pissed off about his treatment. Not even in the provisional squad according to BBC
Reply to vincenzo_spur:
agreed.. definitely..
Reply to Sid Trotter:
"No, I am Stephen"
Reply to Sid Trotter:
"I am Stephen" , well actually Steven. Though, only my mum calls me that these days oh, and the tax man.
Splitter
I can see all the Steve's are crawling out of the woodwork now. Let's be havin' you!
Hunt would be a good signing. Dont think anyone can question his commitment on the pitch unlike some of our current squad. Bit of a Paul Allen type, not gonna set the world alight but will run all day. I would like this signing
er how about Steve Sedgley?
And there was Steve Archibald, Steve.
Stephen Appiah
If you want to go continental you could go for the german steven.......... Steffen Freund
Stephen Clemence.........
Steve Hodge...........
and "Steve Trotter"
Osvaldo Steven Ardiles
Reply to steve1987:
Cheers Steve, I forgot about that one.
Reply to steve1987:
Hey Steve, I think you are just making it up as you go along...but you forgot Paul Gazza Steven Stevo Daft as a Brush Gascoigne.
erm Stephen Dalmat
and er David Stephen Ginola
Reply to steve1987:
and er, let's not forget Brian
Always liked a Spurs side with a Steve in it!
Hunt can work the ball in midfield and looks to find a team mate as the end product or back of the net. He is not only a grafter but also creative and shows high energy levels. How long have we needed a left sided player for?
There aren't many left sided players available and he wouldn't need adjustment time or be "one for the future" like a 3rd of our current crop!
Sign him and lets play some football I say!
Steve Finnan has been mentioned.
this always puts the mockers on things....a win tomorrow will take us to 11th! highest position this season!
gary stevens
stephen carr my lord
Reply to munso:
ooooohhh lord... stephen Carr
stephen kelly
Steve Perryman anecdote.........
I remember a night game when Stevie P wasn't having one of his best when he made a dodgy tackle down by the touchline. As the ball went into touch a funny man shouted out "Perryman you're f*cking useless!" He said it at one of those moments when it had gone dead quiet. Stevie P heard the jocular comment and turned round looked the guy in the eye and shouted back "shut up you c*nt!" which provoked much merriment and cheering from the real Spurs fans, myself included. -happy days!
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Yes, female ones, thank the Lord
Reply to munso:
Who ordered the jinx?
Reply to archibaldsteve:
And here is where we get the Redschnapps reality bite. My feeling is we can expect a good few 'rank and file' signings under Arry.
What were his words after joining us? 'A lot of very talented footballers at Spurs and maybe that's the problem'.
Don't misunderstand me, I am as alergic to us losing sight of 'who' we are as a club as you lot are.
But Malbranque should not NOT have been sold. (Don't get me started on Teemu) but we need some reliable, gutsy yet technically proficient guys in the mix with the likes of Jenas, Modric and Tommy.
Galvins and Roberts's to back up our Hoddle's.
Vey.
Not sure if hunt is the answer think O Hara deserves a shot if we can't get downing.
Harry any news on Bent leaving us quite hope he does don't think he fits in and alleged to have insulted Ledley plus will give Harry more money to get his men in ie Bellamy.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
We ain't got nothing like Hoddle these days.
Not even Modric comes close.
Reply to vincenzo_spur:
Like him as well, but from what I saw earlier this season, an away game against Wigan is not ideal.
JD will play, Lennon will play. we need physical presence alongside them.
Reply to TonyGalvinsShinpads:
If the papers are telling the truth for once, Dos Santos always has a Hang over.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
I don't want to even think about those players we had in those days, I'd feel short changed if I did.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
I idolised Hoddle as an Eighties kid, but I was always Roberts or Galvin when i kicked someone!!
Reply to Slimo:
i'll take your word on that one
It will be straight forward 4-4-2 Sunday.
Gomes
Corluka Woodgate King Bale
Lennon Zokora Modric JOH
Defoe Pav
Reply to TonyGalvinsShinpads:
LINK
Him at the xmas party.
I with you though I would like to see him on the bench maybe given a chance on the wing.
Reply to Slimo:
Away to Wigan? - no chance.
Reply to steve1987:
I agree but maybe Jenas instead of O'hara
Absolutely. Tottenham need a couple of hard nutters who love Tottenham. We continually lose the battle in midfield. Its been going on since Carrick left.
Reply to steve1987:
I would that is spot-on for the team tomorrow.
Wigan away - not the place for J2S comeback methinks
Reply to munso:
meant 'would say that'
Reply to steve1987:
true but the boy could be a useful substitute surely? for lennon or indeed ohara if we are in need of a goal. all i'm saying is it's not like harry to completely discard players, at least not so far... he's been at pains to instill a team spirit and brought all of the outcasts back into the fray. If Taarabt is in the preliminary squad thenGio could at least hope for that
Reply to vincenzo_spur:
I agree if we are 2-1 down 15 mins to go Gio could be useful to come on and nick a late goal.
Just a couple of thoughts. It is common knowledge that those of a more slight build (Dos Santos) typically have a lower tolerance to alcohol consumpion. Not to mention his status as an under 20, which would logically speaking suggest he wouldn't have built up a high tolerence level. So leave him alone. He made a mistake. Aaron Lennon stumbling out of Faces? etc. Ledders as a bigger man pissed was downright embarrassing. Especially as he is supposed to set an example as Club Captain. But that news is so old it was probably breaking the last time I posted up.
), with his ridiculous hair. The worst culprit of all if you ask me.
Still, continuing on the "embarrassing" tip, I would like to point out the picture of one Gareth Bale (in a white waistcoat
It also brings me nicely to the left winger discussion. Cos, apart from his shortcomings in the fashion stakes, Bale can't defend for toffee either. But he could make up into a half decent left winger.
We have plenty of talent. Taarabt still hasn't had a run-out under Harry, Giovani hasn't really either.
So why are we being linked with some shite scummy c%nt from Reading?
We toughen up the middle of the pitch, by bringing in Appiah, then we concentrate on sorting out the left back spot. We just got back Defoe. You can only do so much transfer tinkering in a year, surely?
Or even consumption
anyone else worried about the bale premiership curse. anyone for gunter at left back ?
and tolerance
Reply to Slimo:
Hi, Slimo - What's the alleged insult to King? I'm curious.
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
If you check my posts Im saying give Gio a chance.
But must agree Left Back is the key postion to fill now.
Reply to Slimo:
I think the arguement story is cobblers and would just say that Defoe was one reason behind him joining us.
Villa are interested to the extent that they have asked for a quote.
The problem is lazy journalism - it's too obvious to some that Defoe's arrival may spell the departure of another.
My gut instinct - and... given we are very unlikely to recoup Benty's fee this window, is that we will see what 'partnership' emerges prior to the next window.
Reply to 9__37:
Does, "You were embarrassing stumbling out of Faces" qualify as an insult?
Or perhaps, "You're never going to fully recover"? It might be considered insulting to a terminally ill person, but to a guy with a football injury, I'm not so sure...
Reply to 9__37:
LINK
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
It isn't the cough that carries you off,
It's the coffin they carry you off in.
Reply to Slimo:
Relax! It was more a dig at the press
Reply to HarryHotspur:
An unusual "Welcome back"
Reply to HarryHotspur:
I reckon it depends on a lot of things if Harry gets Bellamy or someone else if red face calls YTS Campbell back and how much villa is willing to folk out.
I can't see harry doing a Comolli and selling a striker unless he has plenty of cover.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Harry, when you refer to Villa asking for a Bent quote, I think the answer was "Yeah, definitely".
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
Also, there is a guy on the excellent COYS forum, who is much respected, who claims to have a working knowledge of these things..
He says it's rubbish...
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
I thought we were stronger than that dear
Reply to 9__37:
Git.
You know I can't use that phrase.
Your wedding vow gag made that heavily copyrighted territory.
I have tried to respect that...
(Off topic a tad). If Spurs lose to Man Ure in the Carling Cup final do we still qualify for Uefa (assuming Man Ure finish in the top 4)
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Now I'm getting emotional
Talking of gags and weddings, Harry, I wonder how RJ1882 got on. No word from him. Maybe his honeymoon is lasting longer than Redknapp's.
Reply to Kat & Lanies Dad:
No
Aside from Downing's qualities or lack of, does he have the 'heart' to add character to an allegedly quiet dressing-room? Is he vocal enough to join a team of players which already lacks communication skills?
He seems a bit mild-mannered to me.
Reply to 9__37:
he's not bored of the wife yet....
'arry seen at Villa Park today, supposedly because he's interested in Roman Bednar.
Was it buying Bednar? Or selling Bent?
Or was it just taking in a football match after spending time at the January Sales in the Bullring?
We need someone who graphs and he does. He is a leftsided midfielder who can cover at fullback. He tracks back, he tackles and his crosses are very good. Sounds like someone we need right now, someone who is beyond just a squad player, but someone who is reliable.
hunt...he did get relegated last year didn't he or was it the one before....?
i'm surprised one of the others in the topflight haven't picked him up....he sounds fantastic...judging by the reviews on here...
Reply to Enorme Nuez:
I understand he's good at geometry and algebra as well.(as graphs)
Lads, wake up. I'm a Spurs fan too but Stephen Hunt is a headless chicken. He has no vision and gives the ball away all the time. The only good thing he does is work hard and Jaime O'Hara does that. Forget about him Harry and get someone good.
Reply to 9__37:
What we want is Stephen Hunt.......
"They reckon you've got concussion - I couldn't give a tart's furry cup if half your brains are falling out. Don't ever waltz into my kingdom acting king of the jungle."
Oops, sorry that's Gene Hunt - he could have a similar turn of phrase in the dressing room though.
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
*mimes hugging gesture whilst typing*
*asked to stop drinking and go to bed by Mde de Hotspur*
Reply to 9__37:
Good call.
Strikes me as the sort of bloke who perhaps, still does a fair bit of babysitting for relatives.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Buys birthday cards for team-mates. Leaves his clothes in neat piles.
Reply to ToniMontana:
TM; its January and we are in the rel zone.....if this was summer 2009 and we were safely in next years prem then would agree with you....I'm afraid we are a victim of circumstance and at 6m he is worthwhile for our squad; not cup tied, another lefty and versatile
Reply to 9__37:
RJ1182 appears to be busier than Ashley Cole's lawyers when talking to Martin Keogh aka Monkey Face on Footabll Focus today..
Hunt isn't gonna get us into the top 4. An assertion I presume shared by many.
We are battling at the foot of the table, as we are all too painfully aware, so any notions of even top 8 are to be kept well and truly to the back of our minds.
Hunt would do a job for us on the left for a season or two. Think Steed's hard work, but with a left foot. Plus he will run up and down the line going forward and tracking back.
I say bring him in.
Reply to Kat & Lanies Dad:
nope, we have to win it
i don't know if it's been mentioned tonight but we are back in the bottom three....
....and it's january 12th......someone call the cavalry
Reply to 9__37:
Reply to KOJAC:
or january 10th.....i hope i'm not clairvoyant
after reading some comments here, i think most of them are not fair with Zokora. Ok the boy is not a superstar but he is not that bad. Personally, I think he did perform very well in matches and should be given credits. The guy got good engine and with proper supports he could be a very good DM. COYS
Reply to KOJAC:
Don't worry. Two wins on the trot and we'll see Jenas roll out his obligatory European qualification through the league talk.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
quite amusing when keown said whats it's like being the most unpopular bloke in england whilst seeing the most popular girl in england.....matters of opinion of course...but funny nonetheless...
Reply to spurforever:
What kind of support?
A defensive midfielder to support him by any chance?
Reply to KOJAC:
might be a blessing to our attitude against wigwam tomorrow Koj......we are deep in the doodoo and best they realise it and graft like JOH and Zok do every week.......bring on Hunt for the same reason i say
Reply to spurforever:
for the last time...he is a good squad man,a very nice bloke and can run all day....but incase you hadn't noticed we are in the bottom three.....having played a five man midfield with zokora at the heart of it....if you ask me zokora's best games are when he has to fall back into defence....
i'm not going to mention it again....though
I agree with previous posts - Unless we're gonna get a player much better than O'hara I don't see the point in spending 6 mil on Hunt, grafter or not. We're not gonna out-muscle teams like Wigan and Stoke so we should be confident in our style of play - which has worked well sporadically this season, and get quality players who can really play football and will be intelligent long-term investments. If they're strong too (like Appiah)that's a great bonus but come the summer (WHEN we DO stay up) we will wonder why we panic bought a mediocre championship player for 6 mil in January. I do not think Downing would be an ideal signing by any means but 15 million for him presents better value than 6 for Hunt - especially considering his value is unlikely to dramatically decrease should we choose to sell him a few years down the line.
Reply to KOJAC:
It's too late now for carols....
Reply to weejp:
yes...i'm sure someone mentioned europe through the league a few weeks ago....crazy..
Reply to Yid4Life87:
Does Downing get stuck in when the tackles are coming thick and fast?
I'm guessing no. Hunt will get stuck in. ÂŁ6m in today's terms is fuck all when you see some of the figures bandied about. We have plenty of good technically gifted players, but they are somewhat work-shy when it comes to tackling.
Hunt isn't just some thug who will come in and cut lumps outta the opposition. The guy can play well too.
Reply to Yid4Life87:
I do not disagree, but what about 'cards' or 'injuries'.............?
Reply to weejp:
agreed, by my estimations we have about 30 more games to play...........what harm can another lefty and grafter do for us?
he is also versatile and the sort of player our crowd would love to see charging about kickin arse
Reply to KOJAC:
Yep, it's that kinda shit talking from the players that makes you just wanna slap them hard and look into their startled face and yell, "You're in a relegation battle for fuck sake".
Reply to KOJAC:
Hugely amusing...
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Obviously we need cover but if we consider that Bentley probably(hopefully!) will come good eventually and bale can also play on the left, as can Lennon (and since he can't cross on either foot I see him as nearly as effective on the left), with O'hara that gives us 4 decent-good left sided players. IMO there is no point splashing out for another one unless he's going to be considerably better than what we've already got.
Reply to toddspur:
i'd play zokora,modric and o'hara in the midfield with lennon....i wonder what harry will choose...?
Here's one of his "slightly" late tackles.
I like him!!
LINK
Reply to KOJAC:
i think it will be thudd instead of JOH. we need a win KOJ and Arry likes his range of passing me thinks. For me I just hope JJ doesnt start;
I want;
Gomes
Charlie Woody King BAE
Lennon (Right) Modric Thudd J2S
Pavlova Defoe(nately)
I fear;
Gomes
Charlie King Woody BAE
Lennon JJ Modric Thudd Bentley
Pavlova
Reply to weejp:
sounds like you'd make a good sports psychologist for the lads.....i think there is a vacany...
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
Living in Wales primarily for the last three years i've (reluctantly) become rather fond of the Welsh national team and i can honestly say that while he can't defend for toffee, as you so eloquently put, bale is starting to look world class as an attacking full back/winger. He is usually by far the most attacking player in the team and is the centre of most of their creative endeavour... In short, he's not worth a go- he's the answer...
And my girlfriend's dad works with his uncle...
Reply to toddspur:
surely he is going to play defoe.....unless he's gone mad.....i'd hope for the same team that beat wigan and burnley.....except JOH for bentley and defoe for campbell....
but of course he might crawl back into the five man midfield shell....i hope he doesn't...
Reply to KOJAC:
or vacancy....
Reply to KOJAC:
i think the name campbell will be a distant memory for us....i would bet he goes home when Bednar, Podolksi et al arrive.....as for tomorrow i dont think he will go 442....and that means no defoe from the start....wonder if Bent will even get on the bench....interesting day tomorrow
COYS
If you want to paint well, it's essential to develop basic disciplines. Once you've mastered them, you can use them to create 'great art'. Some will say that great artists emerge with few or no artisanal skills, whose achievements are the product of aptitude. I wouldn't argue with that. What I would argue is that, the broader your portfolio of abilities is, the more techniques you have at your disposal, and the more likely you are to excel.
The same is true of everyone: dancers, musicians, carpenters, mathemeticians and footballers (and football teams). There's an incontravertible law that, the more you do something, the better you become at it. Obviously, there are limits: you can't run as fast in old age as you can in youth. But, in principle, it works. Those precocious tennis players who burst onto the circuit aren't so precocious at all. Most of them have been wielding a tennis racquet since they were capable of lifting it. Day in, day out, they practise, practise, practise. Likewise, a piano player. Regular and monotonous application on the keys makes him proficient; and proficiency means he can play more and more complex pieces. It's like the alphabet. The more letters you know, the words you can make, and the more complex the concepts you can communicate.
I think Spurs neglected their alphabet. Spurs neglected the fundamentals necessary to building a team capable of playing beautiful football. That goes for individuals, as well as the team as a whole. Sure, you don't expect a striker to develop the defensive skills of a defender, because a team comprises specialist roles. But players build their game upon similar abilities: speed, technique, vision, intelligence. These qualities can be learned and developed.
Hunt, Bellamy, Appiah, Downing - these are maybe indications that 'arry recognises that, unlike our erstwhile Sporting Director, every Ballet needs its corps as well as its Principals.
Reply to 9__37:
bravo 937, bravo
Reply to weejp:
I felt that.
Reply to toddspur:
that's right..looking forward to it....i also think....BAE...is suspended......
bent and jenas on the bench maybe....coys
Reply to KOJAC:
Ha Ha, yeah, I got your meaning. Typo's aren't a crime.
Personally, I'd scrub the toilets at White Hart Lane if it got me near the place. It'd make it all the more effective to burst in on a player taking a dump and give him the sage advice, plus the slap. The facial expression would be priceless!
Reply to toddspur:
He has to start Defoe. It would be madness not to having re-signed him on the basis that this time he'll start for us.
Stephen Hunt looks so different in this video. Maybe is was the training method than made him look a little bloated.
LINK
Reply to 9__37:
That's the sort of training I wish I was partaking in tonight. Ah, Saturday night's in suck.
Reply to 9__37:
he's going to feel that later....
Reply to KOJAC:
or he's going to feel that later...
So, 'arry has drawn a line under the Downing deal. This, perhaps, does at least two things:
1) Sends a message to other clubs that we won't be mugged for our money.
2) Leaves the Boro dressing-room an eency-weency bit unsettled.
Also, it means that WHL won't be nicknamed Downing Street.
Meanwhile, good to see 'arry talking so glowingly of Gomes:
"The guy has shown unbelievable character to come through what he has had to deal with. He has never hidden.
"He had hand and wrist injuries, which could have given him a break from it, the physios kept telling me he shouldn't play, but he stayed in there and is improving as he gets used to English football.
"I could sell him tomorrow, there's another club who would give us our money back, but he's been outstanding lately and he's staying. He's a good lad and he's shown real bottle."
Reply to 9__37:
Mde Booze is a cruel mistress...
John Hurt.
hang on...i'm just going to watch PSB...play...he must come on against stoke when the pool need a goal...surely....
Reply to 9__37:
Unlike you when it came to bringing on the boy Hossam, you big oaf...
'The Russian’s (Pavlyuchenko) lack of English, however, continued to be a problem. Chuckling, his manager said: “On the training ground this morning, I thought there was a defender behind him, man-marking, but it turned out to be his interpreter, telling him what we were saying to him.
"Conversation between him and Jermain should be interesting but I see them as a good pair. I think they’ll work well together. Jermain needs to play with a partner. He’s not a lone striker.”
LINK
Reply to 9__37:
Inspirational. He should write greeting cards.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
What have I done wrong now?
H, request. New page with 9__37's post #224. I like to think of him sitting there with sipping a rare scotch in front of a crackling fire surrounded by leather bound books. It would also not take so long for my circa 95' computer to load.
"sitting there sipping", I must start proof-reading. Couldn't help the run-on though.
Reply to DaredandDone:
Central heating, I'm afraid.
And no leather books in the vicinity - just heaps of ironing.
Reply to 9__37:
you can certainly understand why some foreign players don't make it over here...
if you need an interpreter on the training pitch,the wife's not happy at home and you don't get on with a bunch of crazy british blokes....hope pavlyuchenko pulls on through to the other side....
i think and hope pav and defoe might just work....not sure why but i do....
Reply to 9__37:
Badly written - aimed at Redschnapps,of course...
Reply to HarryHotspur:
In relation to your line, "He's a good lad and he's shown real bottle."
Reply to KOJAC:
Yeah, but Defoe... 'arry will have to tell him what the word 'partnership' means.
I hope it works, too - if only because I like to see Pavlova run as if he had a stiff rod running down his back.
Retaining interpreters and other peripheral staff all add to a club's financial burdens, though, even if they amount to fractions overall.
Reply to 9__37:
Now you've gone and ruined it for me.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
There I was, thinking I'd done something genuinely enfant terrible. I'd better stick to me pipe and slippers.
Who best to contain Heskey and Zaki? Woodgate is a given (a bit like Shay). But King or Dawson?
I think Dawson looks the better option at the moment. King looked painfully hobbled and slow the last time he played.
I agree. Dawson's on form, too. It'd be tough on him to leave him out, just as it would on JOH.
Ladies and Gentlemen, read into this what you will.
Ive just been watching SSN, and a certain Stewart Downing threw his shirt into the Middlesborough crowd when walking into the tunnel into the end.
Like I said, make of it what you will.
Dont shoot the messenger and all that.
Reply to spursfan333:
Could well be a sign of good faith - I.e. "I'm here to stay" but yeh that does look like a bit of a goodbye...
How many times have I seen a match looming where a win shoves us right up the table, only for us to slip back with a deafening thud. I know it's happened several times over the years but the one I remember with unwanted clarity is when, under gerry francis, we could have gone from 9th to 4th by simply beating bottom club sheffield united away. We lost 6-0.
Tomorrow we have a chance of going from relegation spot to 11th; within touching distance of a uefa cup place (alright, if you've got a long arm) and all we have to do is beat a team we know for sure we're capable of beating.
If we triumph rather than tumble I swear to god I'll crack the 2006 Wild Earth pinot.
Go on the Spurs.
Reply to spursfan333:
who to believe.....i wouldn't know....the media appear to be saying it's off.....
LINK
Maybe it's none of my business but I preferred the finer text; gentler on the eye.
Suppose this thicker type defines itself from the grey reply to writing but anyway......
Rah rah rah......
Is that really the time?
Night.
APPIAH IS NOT A DM! REPEAT APIAH IS NOT A DM! FOR GHANA, ESSIEN PLAYS DM.
Bring Hunt in now........I for one am one spurs fan who is sick to his eye teeth of having it repeatedly pointed out that spurs are too soft(for approx 15 yrs)which we have been. The situation we are now in needs grafters not boys with alice bands fixing their hair b4 they get up off the ground(aka bale/bently) the boy hunt has feck all grace but has one hell of an effective left foot,runs all day,will stick his boot in and is effective not only at championship level but at international level too. Granted o'Hara deserves his chance but I for one can remember games he played this year when he was totally ineffective too and hunt will add to our much maligned left side.
and this was b4 it was up for renovation
As for those running down the Irish in their Keane attacks,one man does not represent the masses even though in my opinion he was the making of Man U for years(unfortunately) but I do remember a mass of good old englishmen tearing landsdowne road apart some yrs ago
Reply to jamiespurs:
[One more not..... Why do we keep slagging Bentley. Ok the boy has not been having the best of times lately but thats when we should be supporting him NOT booing him. By booing him it makes us no better than that shower of arseholes from the emarites]
I agree entirely with you kn that one, I think it was disgraceful what the crowd did to Ghaly, I mean guys how long do you want to hold on to those bitter grapes? We are only holding back the progression of our own players (even if it was just their price tag we are chippin away at)m, why have rivals like the scum when we have supporters like you!?
Reply to toddspur:
...or even expecting 60 games a season out of JOH?
I'd take a 6 million Hunt over a 15 million Downing. It's about signing a player that will best fit into our team, and not buying another "star".
Did anyone see Paul Merson's critique of our match against Burnley? He said that us scoring 4 against them was not good enough and that any other Premiership team would've scored a lot more. Is this the same Burnley that have beaten Fulham, Chelsea and Arsenal? Guy has not got a clue. The fact that he was so poor at managenet shows that to get the correct opinion you just have to reverse whatever he says.
Reply to Tiger SPURS:
I watched Stoke play Liverpool yesterday, and not once did the Stoke fans boo Dave Kitson, despite him not having scored all season and also being their record signing. And it is not through a lack of opportunities that is the reason for him not scoring.
Face it, we're a bunch of arseh*les.
Reply to Richard:
...this was a response to someone asking why we should sign Hunt when we have JOH, and someone had made the comment that due to cards and injuries we'd do well to sign another left footer.
In context my post makes a bit of sense, and nnot just answering to the voices...
Reply to Richard:
Agreed about Merson - he's a muppet but I'm sticking to my guns on this one! I think as Spurs fans we're generally too quick to criticise players unless they make an impact every game.
Jenas is a classic example of a good player who I feel gets far too much stick. He's not a world-beater but is not as bad as a lot of spurs fans make him out to be. Downing set up a goal yesterday and has been doing so for years. He scores as well, is naturally left footed and if we decide to sell him on, we'll probably get at least 9/10 mil for him. Hunt on the other hand has no sell-on potential and JOH is a player in a similar mold, with a better cross, that is a true Tottenham boy. If we sign Hunt he'll expect to start a good proportion of games and where will that leave our Jaime? Down the pecking order and demoralised.
Reply to Richard:
Reply to Irishyid:
I am not running down the Irish ,you have let yourselves down by defending a TURNCOAT who`s name should not be mentioned by any proper Irish man .
Reply to 9__37:
Reply to davspurs:
Reply to Richard:
speak yourself there......
...though.....just
and it is funny about kitson not scoring yet with being the main man and all....still above us in the league....
Reply to KOJAC:
speak for yourself there.....
what a load of sh*t, your a c*nt.
stephen hunt is sh*te and why the f*ck are we aiming so low, top team buyin sh*t
want a grafter and a top player - lets have malbranque back, hes a sick player
downing is sh*te and i am over the moon harry has dropped that one, ÂŁ14m?! they off their f*ckin heads or somethin! tw*ts
Out for a run this morning, a bird shat on my head. That's the only time I'll stop and talk to her.
But, seriously, it did. Pleased to say I had a hat between the slime and my... ahem... luxuriant hair.
Anyway, my wife tells me it means good luck. That'll be a win for Spurs, then.
Harry, your avatar rocks - best yet. I regard it covetously.
Reply to davspurs:
The fact that you can't spell any of the players' names is indicative of the extent to which you're tactical knowledge is lacking. Out of King, Dawson and Woodgate who could properly play left back? None of them are left footed and none of them are particularly good at going forward. They are some of the most typical centre-halfs its possible to imagine (although admittedly King can play holding midfield)Even Corluka, who is a solid full-back on the right, is not the ideal choice at left-back.
I agree it would be nice to see Dos Santos stretch his legs but haven't you ever heard of confidence building? His words about Taraabt, Ghaly etc. are perhaps meant to be inspirational, and not clues as to who will play in the next game.
Reply to hazzza:
for those that might know....
sky have us down as a 5-3-2...surely not....but you never know....they must get the team sheet....
---------gomes---------
zokora king dawson woody bale
---corluka modric o'hara----
----pavlyuchenko defoe-------
cesar huddlestone jenas bentley lennon campbell bent
surely 3-5-2? Haven't played that since the Hoddle days...
Reply to NovaYid:
that's right....i just copied what sky put down....we won't know till we see it.....either way it's pretty much the same....5-3-2....3-5-2.....looks like harry dos not want to lose this midfield battle
strong midfield, do think lennon should be in there though.
Maybe Bale will get a bit more freedom to bomb on, not be so caught up with that defensive mumbo-jumbo!
Reply to munso:
you can certainly see zokora and bale bombing up and down the flanks....
that meant to be a KNOW not a "now" before someone strings me up on it.
Reply to Spurs8182:
iraqgoals3
Maybe King is playing holding role?
Reply to munso:
thanks
sky have changed it back to 4-4-2....but it looks like king is in the middle...can anyone else see what we are playing...
God... Defoe is SO much better than Bent..
and it's only been 10 minutes..
Ledley's definitely in DM..
interesting..
Bale's lucky to still be on pitch. He's so low on confidence it ain't funny.
Reply to weejp:
i don't know only looked like a yellow to me but i guess in the current climate....but it does look like we are waiting for wigan to scor now...
Oh my god Zokora is just awful. What does anyone see in him?!?
why the fuck does Zokora shoot?
Why does he play?
Reply to Yid4Life87:
let's hope it's a game of two halves.....i don't see the point of playing zokora right midfield though i'd rather see him in the middle.....but it looks like harry is going for the point.....
if i were him id try and run it in, itd be way more successful.
Reply to Yid4Life87:
exactly...
Ledley's too slow lads.. i think it's time to say goodbye..
The curse of Gareth Bale looks set to continue anyway..
after a good start we've been dominated by Wigan... and that depresses me..
Lets just hope West Ham get a hefty points deduction.
We're gonna need some help.
This is a very interesting formation. The key is Zokora on the right, and O'Hara on the left. O'Hara has been very bright, but Zokora has no attacking ability whatsoever and is killing us.
Because Zokora is so awful, the entire left side of Wigan's midfield an defence is collapsing into the middle and clogging everything, leading Wigan to dominate us.
With Ledders in the holding role, I don't understand why 'arry isn't playing a better attacking player instead of Zokora. JJ would do well in this formation, and Lennon would dominate.
If he doesn't take Zokora off, or change the formation, Spurs are going to lose this match.
Lets see all the defenders of Didier Zokora's talents come and stand up for him after that first half!
The man hamstrings us. Its like playing with 10 men with him in the side. Today has been a display of why Zokora ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH! He CAN'T pass, he CAN'T shoot and he CAN'T cross, his ball retention has been abysmal.
I cannot believe that he is still in our side and still available to cause havoc and destruction to our chances of survival and becoming a proper side.
The sooner Appiah is signed the better. I can't watch much more of Zokora's piss poor performances.
Half time, the highlights so far...
12:00 Dawson makes the block of the season to stop Zaki's shot. That's timing.
30:00 Commentator says 'Zokora is extremely versatile', yes he's fucking shit at most things! He needs half a second to think what he's going to do next, even his short passing makes the reciever work too hard. Shocking. Industry is not a get out of jail free card.
I though Bale could have gone for that tackle too to be honest. JoH is having a good game but where is the service?
So its agreed. Zokora must be got rid of.
Agreed!
Preferably in the same way that the MAFIA get rid of people!
Even Alan Smith can see it...we need someone to take them on down the wings...ie Arron Lennon.
C'mon Harry take a chance, as it is, Wigan are looking more and more dangerous. Its time to bring on Lennon, for DZ or even Ledders.
Discussing the merits of Zokora is irrelevent.
Question should be why have we got two right wingers on the bench and yet play Zokora on the right wing?. Not forgetting Jenas who could also pick up this role.
Reply to jamiespurs:
well i wouldn't go that ear JS....can still do a good job from the bench.....
you never know he pop up and score the winner...
If he does I'll eat my laptop AND get ZOKORA on the back of my shirt
Reply to jamiespurs:
deal...i want photographs to prove it....
Do they know they're allowed to take the ball in the direction of the Wigan goal?
maybe not the laptop
So 'arry's response is to push Modric to the right, O'Hara to the left and leave King and Zokora as central mids? This is going to be a really ugly second half.
it is dissapointing that we continue not to create chances....
we have modric,pav and defoe do we not train to create anything for them....
we are tottenham from the lane.....not some pub team trying to stop other teams from playing...
bent getting ready
best mates up front?
I expected to see Huddlestone on today. JJB pitch isn't great, and I assumed his long passes might come in handy. Also his size.
Has anyone noticed that Defoe is getting fouled out of the game?
Ref's a homer.
bent will see us getting long balls up top
have we had a shot on target..?
shit............. Gomes injured. NOT GOOD
Zaki's a twat.
It's not a tug-of-war but a push-of-war. We're being muscled back.
We need to get bent up against bramble.
WHY is Modric off and Zokora still on?
Reply to jamiespurs:
harry wants to see you eat that laptop...
Zokora is shockingly poor.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Myabe 'arry wants to land a job at Barca.
can anyone confirm this for me coz i'm sure i must be mistaken..
Did Aaron Lennon just come on for Modric and therefore is Zokora still on the pitch??
i must be mistaken..
lennon is our hope...
The most annoying thing about supporting spurs is Didier Zokora!
I'm almost speechless over these substitutions. Why do like for like's, and totally ignore the huge problem up the middle.
what the fuck./ head at the fucking goal.
bent doesn't want to score then....
For all of Bale's faults as a defender (can't forget he is only 19), he sure delivers some fabulous crosses. That would have been a goal if Pavs was still on.
Bent was looking for JD
Zok is fucking woeful
abpout the only thing he does is run fast in a straight line
Zokora's runs always either end in him winning a free kick or giving the ball straight to the opposition. Has anyone ever actually seen him complete a pass after one of those dribbles?
Reply to jamiespurs:
imagine....22,000 a week for skills like that...
I was trying to work out why our players seem so slow. Truth is, they are slow, but Wigan are also subtle at using the hands to impede.
Reply to Yid4Life87:
Yes, pass to row Z in the stands.
Homer.
luckily we r still in this and might squeeze out a winner....gladly take a point though..
The sooner Huddlestone or Jenas come on the better.
If Bentley were crossing for Wigan we'd be a couple down by now.
Hope Jamie is telling 'Arry to get Zokora off!
Let's be brave - take Dawson off and put on Jenas.
Haha. Can't say i didnt warn u.
We're down to 9 men. Zok and Jenas don't count.
we deserve to go down
Surprise sur-fucking prise. They scored a header. We don't deserve a point from this game - we've been woeful.
we are truly shit...thank god we get to play some games at the lane....
Utter tripe.
I'm disgusted. Good night
worst coached game since 'arry arrived. Full blame on him.
what was that is Ramos back in charge?
I've had enough. What a load of shite. The big loyal men will come and have a go but WE ARE SHITE. Come sweet relegation, come and cleanse me of this torture. I cant be constructive, I cant be anything other than fed up. WELCOME, THE NEW LEEDS UTD. We're not even good enough for the Championship. Why o why against Wigan Athletic are we subbing Pav and Mod? Why? Why? Why? Zokora is now officially our best player. He's stayed at the standard he's always been at whilst around him everyone else is out to f**king lunch. Shite. Shite management, shite playing staff, dont deserve to stay up. Wont stay up.
Substitutions were shit. Tactics weren't great. Referee wasn't the biggest help. Bale was abysmal. Zokora was on a par. I'm so fucked off right now.
every one of the players can fuck right off..
next game play the reserves or someone that might give a fuck..
when did we become the type of team that would be happy with a draw at Wigan..
to quote the commentator "Spurs will be so disappointed not to have taken the point.."
When did our standards slip..
Harry is no Messiah.. no messiah at all my friends..
i'm off to tear my hair out...
i could not be more angry..
I cba to log in proper atm.
That was an absolute load of fucking shit.
Overpaid cunts, why is there never any effort from all 11?
Bale has been absolutely shit this season, and I hope Bentley gets a career ending injury.
I fucking give up.
Ive seen more passion from a brick wall.
the curse of bale continues.....
we played with four central defenders and a so called defensive midfielder and still lost...
i think from now on i'd like us to try and play attacking football regardless...we are losing anyway.....let's lose in style...FFS
to be fair to the lads wigan are a good unit on a fine run of form......but boy are we in serious fucking trouble....when the likes of wigan are lightyears away from us in the league....
and Defoe, Pav and Bent got about as much service as Woolworths have had recently.
Reply to jolsgonemental:
JGM..
usually your views are a bit radical but here you're dead right..
We deserve to, and probably will, go down
and Gareth Bale's curse has gone beyond a quirky statistic.. it's fucking unbelievable..
should not play again until we're 10-0 up at home against a 5-man Accrington Stanley team..
and if we keep on teh same path we'll be playing them very soon..
A Sad day when we go up to Wigan with a defensive side. Scared of Wigan says it all. Zokora please f--- off
i'm actually looking forward to man utd v chelsea.....to see what a real game of football is like and how a team actually tries to score goals.....i have forgotten...
quality performance by the boys today,was on the edge of my seat for most of the match,were finally starting to see the quality that pav brings to the team,modric ran the midfield with the kind of leadership shown by gerrard and lampard,why cant we get zokora into more shooting positions as hes got a real eye for goal,bale is also coming into his own and was a rock today,glad harry played with two small guys in o'hara and modric as we all knew that wigan are useless in the air,all in all a great day and if we can only keep playing like this we should be able to push on and get that 4th spot,COYS.
We're a laughing-stock. Posturing as top-four wannabees, sticking stubbornly with a Sporting Directorship, flashing our money at this big name and that, announcing plans for a 60,000-seater stadium - we're clowns.
Zokora, Bale, Bent, Jenas, O'Hara, King-with-his-knee - they're all as bad as each other. No wonder we're fickle. It's because we swallowed the hype, and embraced the ambition to be a top club. Who wouldn't? We fell for the marketing. So, when you've been promised class and get dross you develop the hump. A little vitriol toward the over-paid players representing your club and its management is the least you can expect.
If we get relegated we'll sink like a stone with this lot. We can barely walk, let alone run.
Harry when you do the player ratings 2 for everyone except bale -2
JENAS ARGHHHH DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED
HE IS ABOUT AS GOOD AS HAVING MALARIA ON YOUR PENIS
I say all this and Im still SOOOOOOOO pissed off
and where the fuck was Giovani? Taarabt?
If harry labels them as match winners,WHY THE FUCK CANT THEY EVEN MAKE THE BENCH.
I love you Spurs.
how many long balls did we play today?? fuck shit piss wank, we're going down at this rate!!!
In response to my 255 post, my wife just asked me if I'd like her to crack the bottle of pinot....... over my head to numb the pain.
I'm thinking about it.
Disgraceful. Aside from Dawson and Gomes we were a complete disgrace. Redknapp started with a stupid formation, which gave us no width, forcing us to try and play through the middle, when they outmuscled and outplayed us. When that didn't work we came over all Wimbledon. Long balls to Bent and Defoe are not the way forward. We could hae played them for 90 hours and not scored. When will a Spurs manager realise that buying ÂŁ15m+ strikers wont help if the supply is as good as the Russian to Ukraine gas lines.
Gomes - 8 Bit of character and heart, deserves better than he sees in front of him.
Bale - 3 Giving the ball away or letting the attacker waltz past... I dont know which is the lesser evil, neither does he, so he does both.
Woody - 4 Slow, one paced and looking like he's put on a few pounds recently.
Dawson - 8 They never really looked like breaking us down while he was on the pitch.
Corluka - 6 Decent game, standard fare for Charlie.
King - 3 The star is waning and it hurts to watch, just like Muhammad Ali against Larry Holmes.
Modric - 4 Never received the ball in an area where he could be dangerous.
O'Hara 2 Did we re-sign Dean Marney?
Zokora - 4 Heart in right place, feet arent.
Pav - 2 No supply, didnt hold it up well, ran around though, so Harry will be Happy.
Defoe - 0 Sorry mate, not acceptable.
Bent - 0 No. just no.
Jenas - 0 Did he touch the ball?
Lennon - 2 No supply, tried to come and get the ball a few times but ended up giving it away and forcing us back again.
Championship? You need fight in you to survive the Championship.
also, where the fuck is bostock? he set my world on fire that ten minutes he played in the uefa and we havent seen him since!! Fuck this we're protecting him bullshit, if you're good enough, you're old enough!!
Don't underrate Wigan, a side who have got 18 points out of a possible 21 in their last 7 matches. Until Dawson went off we defended well, we are hard to beat and difficult to score against, these may still be the reasons we avoid the drop.
Our problem is we just aren't scoring enough goals.
if your aspirations for a game against wigan amount to nothing more than holding them for a draw then frankly you have no aspirations at all.
The fact that we couldnt even do that suggests our days in this division are numbered. We have many games against betetr sides than Wigan in our last 18 games.
difficult to score against my arse
Yes. I'd say that was an entire first team dropping performance, except Gomez. Lets have the reserves now please. Talk about deja vu- the long high ball to tiny wee Jermain Defoe resulting in the counter attack and headless chickens routine. Dear God help me.
FFS Keep it in perspective, that does not mean we are going to be, or deserve to be relegated!
That was always going to be tough, Wigan have 6 wins from 7 now, only bettered by Villa.
I did think the substitutions were not the greatest, Bent for Pav - yeah I can see that one.
Lennon for Modric was a shocker, maybe Harry thought we would be too lightweight in midfield with both?
Gareth Bale was poor again, which is frustrating, as, like Bentley, he is a 'kin good footballer!
One last moan, why did Gomes still drop-kick the ball out with the prob he had when he has a monster throw anyhow? I do think, not for the 1st time this season, he has battled on injured when maybe he/we would have been better off being subbed. (before Dawsons injury i mean)
Reply to onedavemackay:
i hear what your saying ODM and said myself that wigan are a good unit on a fine run of form....but let's be honest that was truly awful....it didn't look like we knew how to score a goal......
looking forward to the cups and run in though surely we have enough games to play us into some sort of form...
My mates are all laughing at me. Text messages flooding in.
When did we become such a joke?
Reply to jolsgonemental:
agreed 100% but the REAL supporters on this site will try to tell you that to be a proper fan u gotta cheer the boys on no matter what as we are spurs and should be proud,fcuk me.
'Arry reminds me of Jol.
Next manager please.
today did remind me of some of our away games under jol, clueless and heartless
I thought arry was keen to play players in there right position
so Bale leftback ? King midfield ? Bent striker
complete mystery
Reply to KOJAC:
We have struggled to score most of the season. That is our main problem.
Reply to ToniMontana:
Sorry. We only change our managers in October.
It's tradition.
Reply to PLN:
Agree with some of your ratings, but not all
Gomes -8 could have cost us with the dodgy throw - i'd say a 6
O'Hara - 2 I thought he did ok today - 7
Defoe -0 He put in a lot of running today, did'nt get the service, but chased everything -6
Bent and Jenas weren't great but were never 0's
i think harry a few to many at his do last night.
From wikipedia:
Redknapp helped to stabilise the club and establish it in the Premier League, and also helped bring through a number of young players from the club's academy, including Rio Ferdinand, Joe Cole, Michael Carrick and his nephew Frank Lampard coming through the ranks. However, Redknapp also made mistakes in the foreign market with the signings of Marco Boogers and Florin Raducioiu proving to be expensive flops.
He doesn't always get it right obviously and I'm starting to get the words "TOO GOOD TO GO DOWN" echoing around my head.
I still suspect that we'll get it together enough to finish mid table but that suspicion is being eaten away at an alarming rate.
We're flimsy and unbalanced to an astounding degree. If 'Arry doesn't have his best scouting hat on over the next few weeks next season might be a twilight zone and the new stadium might start to look like a bigger joke than the current team.
Levy had a gem in his hand and he swapped it for a turd. Getting those sorts of decisions right is his responsibility. If the dreaded drop occurs, Levy would get, sad though it is for the rest of us, exactly what he deserves.
Arry's not the problem....its the halfwits on the pitch at the moment. I think we've gone from underconfident relegation contenders to overconfident relegation contenders in 2 months!!! he's told them all to relax they're brilliant players and they've turned into prima donnas. Bale should be a good player but isn't. Modric was running the show and winning us games playing in that free role, now harry's dropped him back into midfield he lost it again. Which prem teams could Bent actually get into....Not many me thinks?!! Pav is a good player, why bring him off so soon, it took 90 minutes to get a great goal out of him against wigan last week, give him a full game!! I love the way zokora can cover so much ground with his legs on the wrong way round!! Just our luck that he's the fucker with a clear cut chance today!! I gotta keep typing, its either that or smash this laptop over my missus' head for just telling me that 'its only a game'!!!!
we are in the bottom three...so good reason to be worried...i would of thought...
but we have to let harry get his players in and show what he wants to do.....before we start putting his head on the chopping block...
i've always thought we are going to pay in karma for what we all did to jol....i know he had his faults but we all got a bit above ourselves.....fans,chairman...etc....and thought we could have more and quickly....
harry is a bit like jol...so let's hope we can make the heady heights of 17th and stay around to deal out a few beatings next season...coys
Reply to jolsgonemental:
The do is tonight !
Reply to KOJAC:
and it's not all bentley's fault now... is it...
Reply to el:
Someone told me that NZ 2006 MT. DIFFICULTY ROARING MEG PINOT NOIR goes straight to your head. If that's any help.
Arry is doing more coaching of the media then of the team in Cheshunt. If you are all mouth you have to be able to back it up. Barring the top 5 or 6 it is a very average Premiership and our position shows we are a very very average team. If we stay up this year it will be by the skin of our teeth. If over four years you have a re-volving door policy and sell KEY INFLUENTIAL PLAYERS when you are beginning to stabilize it catches up on you. We are CLASS-1 Relegation Candidates and let no fan kid themselves, with what we seen today it would not keep us in the CHAMPIONSHIP never mind the PREMIERSHIP. Talking yourself(TIMES/NEWS OF WORLD) up as a future ENGLAND MANAGER and the best COACH in ENGLAND is a total load of verbal diarrhoea when you go to WIGAN with a DEFENSIVE TEAM.
Reply to worriedyid:
calm down worried yid.....listen to the missus...
.....we'll probably go and beat united in the fa cup.....beat burnley with the kids and win the league cup......without picking up any league points....happy days...
Reply to KOJAC:
Of course it's Bentleys fault JJ obviously was dazzled by the reflection off David's hair gel when he went up for that header.
Reply to onedavemackay:
Well lets change again next season then.
Hopefully he is good enough to keep us up. although im not really sure.
Lets be honest,, Do you really think he is the man to move us forward?
I dont.
the worry is after the bout of backslapping and confidence building that Harry arrived with he has reached the bottom of his bag of tricks.
still think he will get us safe though. just.
n
Reply to jolsgonemental:
It all started going wrong when Joe Jordan arrived.
Reply to onedavemackay:
i saw him out in the technical area today...
...don't know what he was doing though...
the key is, for harry to accept he is a motivator not a tactician
Stick to 4-4-2 players in their best positions and give them all a big hug before they go out on the pitch.
Reply to jolsgonemental:
i think so too...and to be fair to harry he was brought in when we were bottom to do a job...which was keep us up....
we are a joke though all that money spent and receivced over the last few years and it still looks like we haven't got a clue.....
The problem I have got with Spurs at the moment is we have no match winners - someone who can do something out of the ordinary. We always had at least player who could do this. This is why I loved watching Tottenham.
I thought Bentley could be the man who could do this, but except for a couple of flashes of brilliance we ain't seen too much.
Of course we sold the two players who had that ability.
I don't think Defoe has it either...........
Reply to steve1987:
and wasnt they both at the club when jol got sacked ?
Reply to notsohotspurs:
Sorry, I don't get your point.
Reply to steve1987:
well if the rest of the team doesnt function a match winner wont win you many games
We are the reciprocal of Everton. Every time they've stolen three points with a late, late header after a skull-crushingly dull game...that tips the mass balance of the universe out of whack, triggering a debt that only Spurs can repay.
There have been plenty of games I have watched where we lost but there was always someone who would raise your spirits with a brilliant bit of skill, clever play, fantastic shot or something.We don't seem to have any of that these days.
Then again I go back to Hoddle, Waddle, Clive Allen, Ardiles, Villa, Hazard, Gazza, Sheringham, Klinsmann, Anderton , Ginola and all the others I can't remember at the moment. None of this team does this for me hence the disappointment. It's not just about winning games.
Reply to onedavemackay:
The irony of a Spurs supporter drinking anything called Mount Difficulty right now would be too much to bear. I'll pass thanks ODM but the idea was spot on.
I have another bottle of NZ pinot called Blind River; reminds me of our sweeping forward play this afternoon.
Reply to Longwell:
i thought we might start winning when hull started losing...it's not happening though..
Reply to steve1987:
I agree with you there wholeheartedly, those players flourished at spurs
Why do our signings not flourish at spurs anymore, Modric,Bentley,Lennon ?
and what's the consequence if they do that pisses me off
Steve1987
He never did with any consistency, that's why we sold him.
Reply to KOJAC:
Nah. I'm telling you, it's all about the Toffees.
*shakes fist at David Moyes
Fear not "I am Steve"
Reply to el:
Sorry, who didn't?
Reply to Longwell:
we could of done with that big chap fellaini in the middle....good buy from moyes...
Reply to KOJAC:
Trouble is neither does he
Your 408 post. Just seen that it relates to a prior post. Thought it was a stand-alone exclamation of dispair at Defoe's lack of ability.
Anyway, I don't rate him particularly, especially over a whole season. He used to have a good half a season when he was with us, unfortunately he's already had a good half with portsmouth. Doh!
'despair' even.
6 points from next 2 games. No excuses.
fucking fairies.
My patience with Zokora ran out today.
I still havent got over the fact that we tried to park the bus against Wigan. Wigan! fucking hell.
i just read amongst others harry would put his house on zokora....
looks like KPB is off on loan.....we should keep him unless someone wants to cough up for him like we did....
getting a bit worried like JGM.....why are we trying to stifle wigan,when we should be taking them head on in a game of football......we lost anyway.....come on harry....FFS
Face the facts, you lot are going down, but I do hope you win the tiny pot before doing so, that way you'll be the first team to win the CC and get related all in the same season....lol
Reply to spursfan333:
i popped into woolies the other week on its last day open in cardiff- absolutely verything was for sale, and all that was left when i got there were the shelves...
the staff were rushed off their feet but trying hard all the same. great service given the circumstances
Reply to Lol:
Agreed, we can win the CC, but related? Well we are very close, especially when it comes to Spurs, but no, there's no way we'll ever be related.
Reply to KOJAC:
Indeed. I was advocating we sign him in the summer after our pursuit of Veloso went cold. Course, I wasn't posting in these parts then, so you'll have to take my word for it.
My next suggestion to fall on deaf ears is Anthony Annan. I like what I've seen of this kid.
Reply to ToniMontana:
What? Likely to take us to two 5th placed finishes?
Reply to Longwell:
is he another ghanaian.....maybe appiah will put in a good word on your behalf.....
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Spot on JGM. Are we in such a comfortable position we can afford to experiment with 3-5-2 and 4 CBs on the pitch? Especially after some really promising performances recently playing 4-4-2 with Modric in central midfield and the (TWO) strikers getting decent service. All that confidence we've built up in the cup competitions destroyed in one crap management decision. Still Pompey next up, maybe Harry will actually try to win that one....
Hear ye, hear ye, I think I speak for us all when I say
fuck wank balls turd asshole bastard piss bugger tits
and many moreeeee!
But for christ sake, dont even talk about sacking Harry.
Its those silly overpaid twats who dont give a damn out there on the pitch causing your problems.
If we had a team of O Haras or Dawsons, not big names, but solid, passionate players, we wouldnt be in this desperate mess we are in right now.
Wed be languishing mid table or a bit lower, but we wouldnt be relegation fodder.
We need some of the lads to get their finger out their arses and give 110%.
If they can put on performances against the likes of Man United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool, why cant we beat the likes of Wigan Athletic everyweek??
Also, Im beggining to take ODMs view.... Weve been pretty shit since a certain Joseph Jordan arrived at our club. Its got to be more than coincidence.
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Get used to it, we're an 'Arry club now, salt 'o the earth, run 'o the mill.
KOJAC:
Annan is another promising Ghanian midfielder, yes. A bruiser without being a particularly big guy, somewhat like Essien and Appiah.
Still in his early twenties. Plays his club football up in Norway someplace, of which I've seen approximately zero games. But I thought he was dynamite in the African Cup of Nations last year.
Anthony Annan (born July 21, 1986 in Accra) is a Ghanaian international footballer who plays for Norwegian club Rosenborg BK from 31st of August 2008. Rosenborg bough him from IK Start. He also played for Stabæk in 2008 on loan from IK Start. He is an all-action central midfielder who is very comfortable playing defensively. Annan was regarded as the best young midfielder in Ghana. He combined midfield artistry with some goal scoring skills, and endeared himself to many football fans in Ghana.
He signed for the Norwegian club I.K. Start in January 2007 and quickly established himself as a first team regular during I.K. Start's preseason games, and showed skills both off and on the ball. Unfortunately he was plagued by injury and illness during the first part of the 2007 season, and [did not gain trust from then head coach Benny Lennartson in the important final games to avoid relegation.]
On August 1st, 2008 it was revealed that Annan would be travelling to England for a trial with Blackburn Rovers. After impressing Paul Ince and the Blackburn coaching staff immensely, while on trial, he was sent back to his club to play in one more competitive game where the Blackburn Rovers scouts were to watch and report back on whether or not to complete the signing. It is also rumoured that Arsenal and Everton wanted to have Annan for a trial, but his first-team responsibilities with Stabæk prevented it from happening.
Nicknamed Pablo Aimar in comparison to the Argentine national midfield superstar, Annan combines immense skill with a physical presence that belies his average height. Similar in style to Ghanaian midfield Superstar Michael Essien of Chelsea, Annan is touted as the next big thing to come out of Africa into Europe.
Wiki.
I've bracketed the bit that worries me.
and my player ratings are:
Gomes 7 - Played on despite injury, although maybe at fault for their goal. Jenas mostly to blame though really.
Corluka 6 - Gave away a number of fouls against Zaki, but sometimes unfairly penalised. Solid otherwise.
Dawson 8 - What a turnaround under Harry. Gone from being Donkey Dawson to being a real solid and dependable CB, just like he used to be. Keep it up.
Woodgate 6 - Didnt do too much wrong, solid really.
King 6 - One of the performers. Rarely gave the ball away, but needed to set up more attacks. Solid.
Bale 4 - Another poor showing. He needs to stop just hoofing it upfield. Its what I do on sundays. And I dont get paid thousands of pounds a week to do so. Needs to do much better.
O Hara 7 - Solid throughout, rarely giving the ball away, and was one of the few that really tried hard. Gave away a dangerous free kick though.
Modric 5 - should have been given the 90, with Zokora going off. Tried his best to get forward, but always crowded out or not given the ball. Unlucky.
Zokora 4 - As JamieSpurs has so often said, this guy just smacks of limited. Do better.
Defoe 5 - No real service. You cannot effectively judge someone when they arent getting the ball and the chances.
Pavlyuchenko 5 - Again, no real service, but tried hard to make some for himself.
Lennon 4 - No impact whatsoever. Poor.
Bent 5 - Again, no service, but tried hard to some extent.
Jenas 3 - On for a matter of minutes and lost his marker for the goal. Sort it out.
So, all you pillocks, with Jenas, Bent and Bentley all on the bench, who you have derided all season, who you gonna blame today?
This once mighty club should be looking to annhialate the likes of Wigan; to hear Mcallister say we would settle for a point makes me want to cry. Put the reserves in next time Harry, or maybe the academy side; no bollocks about this team, bar Dawson who again was outstanding and fast becoming our player of the season. The service to the front 2 was non-existent. Shambolic.
And I've said it once, I'll say it again - MODRIC CAN NOT PLAY CENTRAL MIDFIELD.
Bye.
Reply to DANNYBOY:
Bale and Zokora.
You pick 4 centre backs in your eleven and put a defensive midfieder who couldnt hit a barndoor from 2 yards on the right wing you arent exactly being what would be referred to as expansive or ambitious.
I see arry was on the mobile at around seventy minutes...... i wonder who was on the phone to? maybe a agent about downing? or his wife telling her the fucking bus has broken down and its stuck in the Tottenham penalty area so he going to be late!!
FFS we beat wigan at home comfortable we should take the same attitude again, is the thought that we will beat them again, why go all defensive?
So same old Tottenham new manager lots of wins and draws good cup run then after so many games back down hill, why oh why do we always do it? The best season i can remember was when we won the FA CUP and finished 3rd in the league i think 90/91 or 89/90 season?, we played united in the last game in the season and drew 1-1 they had just won the UEFA cup and i remember a pundit saying these two will excel in the league in the future, well we went backwards and united went massive, we sold gazza etc we never learn do we? fuck me i love Tottenham Hotspur and always will but we need to stop the rot quickly from ground roots to the top.
Answers on a postcard please.
Reply to DANNYBOY:
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Get off your high horse regarding Modric. He played central mid in a 4-4-2 formation in both our last two to great effect. Take those fucking blinkers off, pal.
no no no. why didn't he dominate today then, when we had an extra player in midfield? it's games like this we look to him to run the game; he didn't. pillock. if he plays, he's gotta play in a 4-4-1-1 with him behind the lone striker.
Can't believe the performance today, we're screwed, this bunch of light weights aren't bothered about the club, they know if we go down then they'll get a transfer to another premier league club. Lets hope the FA give West Ham a points deduction after the 2nd Tevez inquiry, I think West Brom will go down, so that will only leave the one place left !!!! Going back to my earlier point about getting some tough championship players in, Nick the greek says they would not be good enough, we have been beaten by all 3 promoted teams, virtually unchanged from the teams that played championship - why - cos they know how stifle and scrap for their lives ! Something that we just can't do ! How much money have we spent on foreign supposedly 'top quality' players ??? Harry needs to buy players now, get whoever he wants in now before our next league game ! It's no good being in the UEFA cup,league cup and FA cup if you end up being relegated !!!!!!!!!
Reply to DANNYBOY:
Extra player in midfield? A crocked Ledders you mean? The team selection and formation were both wrong today. When they are right, Modric CAN play central mid and create for the strikers. I think Harry will be rueing his choices tonight. Oh, and by the way, as others have pointed out, Jenas lost his marker for the goal.
This season is all about survival now, nothing else.
Its not just about the players, its the mentality of the whole club. Were so used to underachieving - everyones just come to accept it - throw in a few cup performances and thats ok.
It needs a manager to come in and be given 5 years to change that - look at moyes at everton, hes turned them around. We wouldnt give somebody that time, we want it all now.
"This season is all about survival now, nothing else." Eh? I agree the priority is to stay up, forsaking anything else, but you don't want to see us maybe win the UEFA or Carling Cup? Only way back into Europe or maybe you don't want that?
This site is fast becoming like the Spurs team - deluded and thinking they are better than they really are. I'm gonna hibernate; wake me up in March.
Reply to DANNYBOY:
Make it June
Reply to DANNYBOY:
How can I think were better than what we are if I want us to concentrate on the league you mug!!
I couldnt care less about uefa next year, its a mickey mouse cup - same as the carling cup. Its all about the league. Thats where you prove how good you are.
If we survive, he can ship out who he doesnt rate and get in those he does. Then he can stop moaning about our transfer policy because it will be all down to him!!
Jenas lost his marker, but come on let's face it, did we ever look like scoring any goals bar the 1st 45 seconds? Cheap shots at Jenas get you nowhere, other than reinforcing the fact you really are a turd. How many chances did we create in the 80 minutes he wasn't on the pitch? That's the real problem. Wake up people. We ain't scoring goals because we ain't creating chances; end of. And don't quote no billy bullshit about putting 4 past Burnley; we should be putting 8 past the likes of them. Our team earns more in a year than you and me dream of in a lifetime. Now they need to show they are worth it, cos on todays performance they wouldn't get in my Sunday Pub team. Fucking wankers, all of them, bar Dawson. And Modric is the biggest fucking culprit; he thinks he's bertie big bollocks; well he ain't. Give me 10 Jamie O'Haras over him any day of the week.
And YidArmy - why don't you sign up to the site? then you can have a pretty blue label rather than the anonymous black one you have. YidArmy? More like prick. Now get back to playing Championship Manager on your PS3 before mummy asks if you've finished your homework. You typify the cretins on this site.
Reply to DANNYBOY:
If you want 10 O'Haras why dont you go and support your pub team and get off this blog.
I want our team to be more than just running all day, passing the ball to each other would be nice and a bit of flair!!
Reply to DANNYBOY:
You really are a very sad man, DB - no wonder so many other contributors slag you off. Any time someone has to resort to personal insults it normally means they have no argument. Burnley beat Fulham, Chelsea and Arsenal to get to the CC semis so don't knock that result. A team of 10 JO'H's - yeah, that's really gonna do the business. I stated a fact about JJ, it wasn't a cheap shot (something you seem to be a master of however).
Reply to DANNYBOY:
Im impressed you can actully spell prick, did you learn that in borstal??
Were you at the game today or just watching on the TV with a cup of horlicks?
Reply to YidArmy:
i was watching it at home with a cup of horlicks.
Reply to jolsgonemental:
LOL
Jamie O'Hara, lovely lad, but a championsip player at best. That's why he did so well against Burnley, which was effectively a Championship game
Well according to Harry after the game he doesn't have anyone else in mind to sign ! He's gonna work with what he's got ! Looks like we really are screwed !!
That's the last three away games where we just haven't "gone for it". I would rather attack and try and win the game than wait for the inevitable loss. It is so depressing.
Redknapp does not inspire me with any confidence ,another bad appointment from Levy .I did not see the game but I seen the interveiw with Harry and he looked stumped he cant get the overpaid wankers to play .Next Please
To beat any team in the Premier League you have to be prepared to work harder than them. We, quite simply, don't. We can talk all we want about about flair players and formations but our problems stem from a real lack of effort and motivation from a number of our first team players. Look at Gerrard, Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez, Torres all great players prepared to work for their team. Can soneone name our great players that are prepared to work when we are up against it?
I am very worried. Reading Redknapp's comments he seems to know where our biggest problem is but does he know how to motivate a team that has under performed for 3 managers now. Do they really care that less about THFC?
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Pratt. If you need motivating on 50K a week, you shouldn't be playing for Spurs. Next.
Reply to Steve:
And how do you work that one out? The quality of the posters on this site is going rapidly downhill; just like Spurs.
Reply to YidArmy:
12 cups of coffee actually and watched on SS1. I needed the coffe to keep myself awake. Seriously, if we ever play as defensively as that again, I'm changing to Rugby. New midfield please Mr Chairman.
Harry has come out and said that 5 players have character, the rest need to prove it.
The 5 = Dawson, King, Woodgate O'Hara and Zokora.
I only got to see the first half but can only assume that Harry wants to play the above 5 in any formation he can. Saying that if Zokora is a right winger or attacking central midfielder then we might as well play Gomes up front and JD in goal.
Lennon needs to play to give pace and width. Maybe with Defoe being there and Modric he feels he is one lightweight too many. Especially against the bigger teams like Wigan.
I would hate to see us go down, and on paper we should not, but too many players seem to believe the hype.
Saying that, I'm not concerned about today, Wigan are not as shit as some people on here are making out.
It's our home form that will decide our fate.
Pompey, Stoke, West Brom, Boro, Newcastle and Citeh all due at the Lane. 6 must win/can't lose games or QPR and Palace will be our local derbies next year.
Post 147 - We ain't got nothing like Hoddle these days. Not even Modric comes close.
The most blatantly obvious post all weekend; well done sir.
Reply to jimmymarshall:
You seen him too,he is the Manager if he cant get them up for a game when they are two points from the bottom then it is time to change Managers .As far as I can see Redknapp has not got a clue and he should be fucked off back to Bornemouth or where ever the ass came from .
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
When he arrived we had not won in the league and had 2 points after 8 games. Now we are within 3 points of 11th place.
Either take your medication or stop following football and watch X Factor, Gladiators or Celebrity whatever over the weekend.
Change managers? Are you being serious?
Reply to DANNYBOY:
Redknapp is the manager it`s up to him to put the team out there .Do you think Defoe is a good buy is he the man to keep us up .I dont think he is ,and I can see Redknapp bringing us down he is out of his depth the job is to big for him .
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Do yourself a favour mush and read my post number 463. I know, let's have 3 managers in a season!!! It's the players on the pitch underperforming, not the manager. The team Harry put out today was more than capable of winning that game; how many shots on target? How many off target? How many saves did Kirkland make? Repeat after me - WE AINT CREATING CHANCES..that's the fucking problem.
And anyway, what the fuck do Greeks know about football ???? I'll 'ave a doner
Reply to TonyGalvinsShinpads:
Yes I am serious look at his record he is not good enough.One cup in 25 years of managment and then handed our job by that clown Levy .
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Spurs have won three cups in the past 25 years. We are not that much better using your logic.
Reply to DANNYBOY:
I dont claim to be an authority on the game ,but I dont like what we are seeing .We are piss poor and results are down to Redknapp
Reply to YidArmy:
i don't agree with you on that....
spurs should play to win every game and i look forward to league,european,fa and league cup games....
i don't know how old you are but i've been around for 3 fa cups,4 league cups and 2 uefa cups.....glory glory tottenham hotspur....
i can assure you we are not going down....honest....have faith....
Reply to TonyGalvinsShinpads:
Shocking I know we deserve much better
The Prince has gone out on loan to Dortmund til the end of the season i see...
I think people are pissed off and over-reacting after today's result. We were so far down the table when Harry arrived and thinks haven;t gone too well over the last couple of weeks but we are one win from 11th and have two home games in a row to get some form. Also the Burnley game is set up nicely to give a couple of fringe players a chance.
It's not good but we were all aware when he joined that we were very much in a fight for survival. Early wins and good cup form have papered over the cracks somewhat but its gonna take time to get it right.
Next sunday is a good place to start. Don't get me wrong ive been in a foul mood all day and its been emotionally tough this season following spurs- but they are all we have so we have to persevere. Its not cliche saying that we have to be more positive and id never say that those lashing out aren't real fans. BUT, there has to be a more constructive way to play our role as the twelth man.
Write this season off as lower mid table table fodder. Enjoy the cup final if we get there because it could be a hell of a day out. Enjoy europe while it lasts, maybe we'll get something out of that too. But most of all, consider this as harry's chance to build a balanced squad for next year.
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Totally agree. Anyone who says we are fickle is full of shit.
Those three trophies. Venables, Graham and Ramos. Between them a La Liga, a Couple of Uefa Cups and I don't care what Graham won.
So you do have 1 valid point!
Reply to DANNYBOY:
Apparentley the Greeks Know how to play football having won the European Championships this Century. Hurry up with the pie mash
two things.
Anyone who's baying for Redknapp's blood is a moron. That would quickly turn us into the premiership's new poison chalice, much like Newcastle was. There's only one manager who would be absolutely perfect in this situation, and short of any expertise in necromancy, I don't think Brian Clough's going to stepping in for the job.
Finally, the midfield doesn't create chances, and it certainly doesn't create them when either Jenas or Zokora are involved in it. God forbid, both. I don't rate either one, and this game was a sterling example of why.
Reply to destruktornaut:
I`m not baying for Redknapp`s blood,he is not up to just not good enough for the job .
Reply to destruktornaut:
Well playing Ledley King as a defensive midfielder was hardly a masterstroke and leaving a clearly injured goalkeeper on the pitch genius and zokora playing as what exactly.
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
If you didn't watch the game, shut up. You're opinion on the game is not worth sharing.
If Wigan hadn't scored in the last minute there's no way you would be calling for Redknapp's head. Admittedly we were shit. But not giving managers a chance (i.e. Jol) is why we're in this mess.
'Arry is a proven manager. He's good in the transfer market and he's better than anyone else we could possibly attract at the moment. So can it, you muppets.
Reply to corlukas-veruka:
We didn't have any more substitutions! He didn't have a choice!
Reply to destruktornaut:
Jenas didn't enter the field of play until the 80th minute
did you watch the game???
Oi, Nick the greek - where's me doner son? and make it laaarge
"477. vincenzo_spur Wrote: | 22.13GMT | Jan 11, 2009
The Prince has gone out on loan to Dortmund til the end of the season i see..."
Crying shame that; I thought Redknapp rated him? Onwards and upwards.....
Well I've calmed down with the help of camomile tea and the few super Yids who are managing to post positively with perspective on this site and others. Thankyou brothers and sisters. I still thought today was shite though and in a game we should've gone all out to win no matter what. Blood should've been spilt for the points today I tell thee. But alas it weren't.
Even Harry's saying most of the team dont give a monkeys. Thats the problem. There's not enough of 'em who really care. Thats a sad inditement alright. Harry's got to tear into them now, he's got to drop people and give the Ghaly's and Bostocks and Tarabts a chance surely?
What do I know? We were unlucky. Wigan are a different team this season-and thats taken Bruce a while to create. We've got to win all of our home games and we'll be alright. Do I get a prize for most rubbish posting?
C O Y F S
Reply to Yid4Life87:
We were a shambles today full stop i watched the game we created not one chance not one shot on goal from open play. Pathetic and the blame lays with Redknapp he put the team on the field to try and contain Wigan sorry not good enough we are Tottenham not Portsmouth
Reply to Yid4Life87:
What has `Arry proved to you ,he won a Cup got Southampton relegated got Pompey promoted.Please tell me what else he has done of note to warrant a crack at managing us .I just watched the game and guess what we still lost .
Reply to Yid4Life87:
We did he sent on Lennon
Reply to Yid4Life87:
YID FOR LIFE ITS TYPICAL OF THESE SITES THAT SPELLING IS MORE INPRTANT THAN FACT AND HAS FOR KING NOT BEING LEFT FOOT THATS A POOR EXCUSE WHAT IF HE PLAYES THREE AT THREE AT THE BACK AND HE NEEDS TO COVER THE LEFT SIDE DOES HE SAY FUCKIN HELL IAM LEFT FOOT NO HE GETS STUK IN .I COULD PLAY ANYWHERE EVEN IN GOALS SO STOP BEING A SILLY YID AND ANYWAY HE PLAYED THERE TODAY AND WE LOST TO ENERGY RUGBY LEAGUE TACKLING WIGAN DRUG CHEATING BASTARDS LIKE THE REST OF THE SO CALLED CRAP TEAMS USING EPHEDRINE THAT I HAVE TOLD ALL MY FELLOW YIDS ABOUT LIVERPOOL IS THE TEAM I DISCOVRED TAKING THIS DRUG AND STILL ARE AND TEAMS WITH EX PLAYERS ARE ALSO TAKING THIS BANNED DRUG THATS WHY WIGAN AND HESKEY EX LIVERPOOL RUN US OF THE PITCH
Reply to spursfan333:
Glad someone's listening
we dont even look like spurs anymore, this is really starting to depress me.........we cant even knock it around like spurs, cant even lose 4-3 like spurs, and most importantly we cant even win like spurs. Im really struggling to recognise any quality anymore, we dont even play good football
looking at my little black book with my poems in....that was our 32nd game of the season
-----------p---w---d---l ramos 12 2 3 7
redknapp 20 11 4 5
bent is our top scorer with 12,pav has 10 and o'hara 4
......coys
Reply to KOJAC:
it never comes out right....it should read..
ramos played 12 W 2 D 3 L 7,redknapp played 20 W 11 D 4 L 5......
incase anyone wanted to know....roll on pompey on sunday.....we've got 6 pointers coming up....
davspurs - FUCK OFF
Reply to Jobba:
and you can fuck off too
Reply to onedavemackay:
I always listen to you mate; one of the few voices of reason left on here.
For the past decade spurs have been rubbish with Enic/Alan Sugar/Levy spinning the "sleeping giant" tale and talking up "next season", dreams of the Champions League and chequebook signings.
The worst thing Jol ever did was get us 5th place twice on the trot because then it validated Levy's talk as genuine, we all bought into the spin. It felt we were in our rightful place.
But now we're back to crap bottom of the table, the Gross/Santini/Graham/Pleat esque managerial merry go round with the piss poor results and boring matches to go with it - and it feels like an injustice. But is it really?
We have not progressed as a club, we just had two decent seasons.
The only constant I can see in this whole debacle is the way the club is run, and yeah you can read that as a call for "Levy Out".
How can you expect our players to not be in it for the money when the top brass treat it as so?
Why blame bentley/jenas/bale, they are but one of eleven, why blame the manager, he'll only be knocking around for another year and a half before the new manager blames the old regime, promises change but it all stays the same.
It all trickles from the top, if the club was run for football with cash as a byproduct rather than vice versa would REAL change occur.
Reply to DANNYBOY:
well you certainly arnt the voice of reason are you-voice of irrationality perhaps. Not very nice either. I defend all our players regularly, even when they play bad, I have never left a game early, never booed, never utterred a negative word about any of our players, I just support, support, support. However im not blind.......and watching the game today just depressed me, its saddening is all, but of course i will not single people out nor boo. Or insult others needlessly, especially in such oafish way. good night angry man
Reply to jobba:
are you still here? I said fuck off.
Reply to Jobba:
Reply to DANNYBOY:
I'm as fed up as everyone else mate. But I know this was one match where we were actually unlucky not to get a point against the form team of the moment at their gaff. And if we had got the draw this would look a very different blog. Most posters accept we're in a scrap, well in a relegation dog fight sometimes it makes sense to play for the draw.
AND AND AND we are still only 2 wins from the top half of the table.
Don't panic Mr Mainwaring
Reply to DANNYBOY:
"Give me 10 Jamie O'Haras over him any day of the week."
yeah and I'll give you the championship
Reply to onedavemackay:
ODM problem is we cant buy a win and `Arry look`s like he could not give a monkey`s
Anyone who thought we we were going to 'do' Los Wiganistas by a good few goals at thiers is crazy in the coconut.
Wigan are pretty awful, but we have yet to really prove we're not.
Given the state of the table we can still climb quite quickly out of this. Admittedly this will be a limited offer and we can't vuch that it'll be around for too long.
Let down by losing? Of course, but let's not eat each other, people, eh?
Reply to AndalucianSpur:
As a long,longtime reader....
although i wouldn't know when harry actually started his blog....i am sure i was reading it before it went to oleole.com but maybe i am wrong,i cannot remember due to to the regular amount of pollen i smoke,
Maybe harry can clear that up for me,nonetheless i would like to point out as you can see from the archives on your right or if you are an old blogging dog that avatars like dannyboy,jolsgonemental and el have been posting when very few did,so you should maybe show a little respect or learn some history
they are entitled to pretty much say what they like cause they earnt it....capice...!
everything starts from somewhere like this blog in it's early days and hopefully a new tottenham team with harry redknapp as the boss,let's give the bloke a chance...FFS
and remember we are tottenham,super tottenham from the lane.....BIOYC
yours
stoned anonymous.....
Reprinted from Twenty Major
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See if they had this on Pay Per View with a flashy promo complete with dramatic and gravelly voice-over? Then I might be interested.
Forget missiles and rockets and tunnels, give them old fashioned weapons like scimitars, those iron balls with spikes sticking out that you swing around on a chain and flaming arrows. Then it’d be good viewing.
As it is I just can’t find it in myself to give a shit. Modern warfare is too too much like a computer game. I want to see thousands of Jews come over the crest of a hill, pause, give a great shout, like so many Jon Lovitz’s heading into battle, before charging headlong at thousands of Arabs.
Precision missles have taken all the fun out of it. Anyone can shoot in a rocket into a school full of children. That’s easy. Getting up close and personal enough to slice someone’s head off then holding it in the air and shouting “Who’s next?!”, now that’s the kind of shit we need to see.
If both of these sides will insist on fighting, and I think it’s fair to assume that they will no matter what kind of temporary truce is being brokered, can’t we at least make it entertaining for the rest of us? All the hand-wringing is doing my fucking head in.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Now there's a voice of reason for all to hear
Reply to ANONYMOUS:
Respec'
Well it looks like JJ has been stripped of the VC & told he can fuk off anytime he likes, so the JJ haters may have their wish. If this is true Y would 'Arry tell him he has lost the VC then play him, but then again Y did he sub Daws 4 Lennon, I know Daws took a big hit but he was our MOTM up till then, was he hurt, Y wasn't Gomes subbed he could hardly kik the ball FFS
Reply to Yid4Life87:
We did mate, gomes got injured in the 56th .
Modric went off straight after, then Dawson towards the end.
Gomes has to shoulder some of the blame for the goal, I'm sure he would have been off his line had he not been injured. Thats happened before this season, it shows how little faith Harry has in Cesar.
For me, the worst part of yesterday was hearing Harry say thats it for the spending this window, although apart from replacing the whole midfield, who is available to improve things?
The back 5/4 are pretty solid, and theres ÂŁ30 mill of striker in any combination up top.
Reply to onedavemackay:
Just got back from a heavy nights drinking after watching the game at Wigan...
Disappointed is not the word.
I lost count of the number of times we got forward and then the ball went nowhere as no options were available. Oh, and Zok's hilarious (not) shit attempt on goal.
We were awful. No desire, no drive.
We lost the ball all too often and didn't fight for it back enough or well.
It just made my heart sink to see that ball go in in the 90th+1.
Starting to feel quite tired... need some good news about new signings.
Or maybe not...
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Day off today, luckily...couldn't have been held responsible for my actions if the bastards at work starting yipping up about Wigan.
Yesterday was dire, when did we suddenly lose the ability to not just score goals but even create chances??? Were we really relying on Berbatoss and Keane that much???
We looked very comfortable first 20, passed it about nicely without much penetration. Plus points...well we are looking a lot more solid at the back these days, which is something to build on. That's about it really!
I ain't having this "that's it for the transfer window" malarkey coming from Harry, there is bound to be more activity(please give us some gossip to cheer us up today HH).
Relegation-wise...still not worried (perhaps i should be!), we've got 20 points from half a season, there ain't no way we will have a second half of the season as bad as that...i hope!
) Arry sent out a defensive team, in so saying to them you are not able to beat Wigan. Then he blames them for loosing.I thought a coach should instill a winning mentality especially when he touts himself as Englands top coach. Help anyone
Well it's pissing with rain, we lost in injury time and Harry says we can't find anyone else to bring in...oh it's Monday morning and I'm sorting my tax out, Happy New Year!
Or should that be Appiah New Year? No it shouldn't. We need players of his bite playing soon though.
Ok, on the plus side everyone around us drew, so we can still in theory go 11th with a win against Pompey. Also Defoe just will play well at the Lane and will score against Pompey, if he's available?! Defensively we are solid enough. Modric will be back on form. Harry will light the mother of all rockets under their asses in training this week. Appiah to come in. Pav'll score at the Lane....
We'll be ok...
I hate f**king mondays!
Reply to elfranklins:
Sorry! nothing witty or inteligent to say. Just thought I would vent on this forum.
Thanks for listening! I feel better now - pub will be open soon to spread joy across the lunchtime collective in a cold and wet London town.....Ahhhhhhh beer!!!!
Stop changing formations FFS - play the strongest 4-4-2 every week and sub the under performers ( there's always two or more each week ). Play to WIN!
possible starting line up....
Gomes
BAE,Woodgate,King,Corluka,
Jenas, Modric,Huddlestone,Bentley
Pav,Defoe.
transfer targets, k richardson, d cisse, l baines, j cole, m carrick?????????
pav for bent, lennon for modric - awful
This should cheer everyone upLINK&
It's pretty obvious why we lost.
Davspur has hit the nail on the head. It's quite simply ephedrine that is the difference! Nothing to do with Wigan wanting it more. Read his critique at post 268 above, and it really makes sense. He tells us to see how skinny Heskey and Melchiot are now, and by Jaysis, sure they're practically wasting away!
Damning evidence if ever there was evidence so...er, damning...ahem. Yes, lets not blame each other and the players. Oh no, lets blame the drugs.
(tongue firmly in cheek)
Reply to weejp:
i think i'll get myself some of that stuff DAVSPURS keeps going on about!
Keep up the good work DAVSPURS! you will get the game cleaned up eventually, but please put your latex gloves on mate, because you type like a fucking nutter!
Reply to Steve:
Sfunny, cos I was wondering if O'Hara isn't too good for the current squad.
Reply to Yid4Life87:
You make some good points but 'Arry hasn't always improved the teams he's been in charge of, nor are all his purchases successful.
I`d say there is trouble brewing between Levy and Redknapp
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
I make you right there. I imagine Arry will be using his magic crow bar to gain access to Levy's ever tightening purse!
Reply to ANONYMOUS:
If everyone held the same views in life the world would be a very boring place. DB needs to accept that some people don't subscribe to his very blinkered attitude and apply reason rather than vitriol. Just because he was an early contributor to this site doesn't mean his petty sniping is justified or clever.
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:
gotta say i love these quotes from Arry,
""That's three games away from home where we've been beaten in the last minute," he continued. "We can't keep doing that and shooting ourselves in the foot.
"They get a corner, we've can't defend a corner properly and that's what happens again. It happened at Newcastle and it happened at West Brom.
"It's down to desire to go on and get a result. It's something that's been wrong at Tottenham for a long time now. It's very hard.
"We've just got to keeping going really. We've got to try and pick ourselves up again, but it's disappointing. We're better than that.""