im going for 0-2 to spurs aswell...Bent and erm...Jenas...Great vid btw!...

I can not wait! It'll seem at lot longer for due to the time difference, Kick is at 6pm for me! Agggh! Going to watch the game with 2 'borough fans, could be interesting!

Bit Concerned that Peckhart did not get a squad number? Any one else think it's a bit strange.

COYS

BIOYC!!!!!!!!

can't fooking wait!

COME ON YOU SPURS! Cant remember when I was this excited about the start of a season. Actually I can, it was last season!

Like you say Harry, looking at boro's midfield and ours, there should be no problems. Theirs doesnt look any better than Roma's. Or Norwich's for that matter. We have to watch out for this new bloke of theirs Digard tho, he looks like he could be a bit of a player.

I am massively apprehensive about tomorrow, looks like the best lineup we have had in my living memory, but being Spurs fans we all know how things can turn quite quickly. I will close with another hearty COYS!!!!!!!!!!!

Cant wait.

A 1-3 Spurs win for me. Bent, Bale & Modric with a late home consolation.

I cant remember being so positive before a season starts for about 20 years. We need to get off to a great start, at least 16 points from our first 8 games. That will give us the confidence to kick on and grab 3rd or 4th spot.

COYS.

Where can it be seen?

My promised ticket is no more...

Harry, I have been wating for this season to start since we won the League Cup! I can't wait any longer.


The usuual pre-match reviews are leaden with worthless comparisons to this fixture last year or Boro's dazzeling thrashing of Man City on the last day of last season. What? Who cares? That is all superflous immaterial drivel. This is not last season. This is the new Tottenham. New goalie, who is aware of his surroundings, a confident cock who won't cower or panic. If King and Woody are fit with Gunther and Bale either side of them we'll have a titanium back bone. Buit the real revolution is in the middle. The fresh sweet filling that has all us hungary bastards qued up around the bakery salivating. Bentley, Modric, Gio, are more than boro can handle. They will be a force to be reckoned with. But the real punishment will come from Mr. Bent.
Oh, of course, Mishka's help would be nice, if he's snapped out of his funk. But we won't come to tatters if he show's up with face as long as a fiddle.

Last year? Who cares about what we did or did not do last year. This is the new model for a new age. Its super charged. The fucking carbon fiber turbo sports model.

Throw yourself into the road darling!

3-0.

Reply to BruceCastle:

Harry, I have been wating for this season to start since we won the League Cup! I can't wait any longer.


The usuual pre-match reviews are leaden with worthless comparisons to this fixture last year or Boro's dazzeling thrashing of Man City on the last day of last season. What?...

or 0-3 in case you missed my point.

I am going to go for 2-1 to Spurs!!! But i am still very nervous, we have to start the season in top form and learn from last season.

3-1 to the mighty Spurs.
Bentley, Bent, Jenas. Maybe Alves or Downing will get a consolation - but who cares?

I can't believe how excited I am about Bent getting his chance...I actually want to see him succeed more than watch DiMisera Blerbatov float around the pitch making nice touches but not fighting for the team. SELL HIM!!

Reply to DRB:

Where can it be seen?

My promised ticket is no more...

Best best is to try www.justin.tv or TVants. I'm sure that none of these sites are endorsed by Harry in any way.

my hearts pounding with excitment weve got rolls bentleys jags octapuss. dident lennon look like a miget alan gilzean when he scored with is head that shows what a talent dos is going to be if he can but the ball on lennona head then watch out defences.bentley scored last year against the red and white socks they won 2-1 lets have the same only 4-0 to the blue and white sockes .coys

dont need ticket. away end not full up. pay £30 at tournstiles.

pay cash at turnstiles

perkhart is playing for the under 18 has he done somthing wrong he should be on the bench any one no ewt

I'm not going to get too carried away just yet.

5-0 to Spurs.

Nice video, a bit over the top using Barber with Pre-season though.

looking forward to this season, wasnt too confident last year as i felt we didnt strengthen the 1st team, we just bought an expensive bench! however the 1st teams looking gd now and think we'll cause a few upsets, 4th place may be out of reach due to lack of quality depth...but we can still dream! 0-2, surely bents got to grab one after his stunning form and maybe a bit of magic from gio would suit me on opening day

Hello everyone, ive been a lurker on this site for quite a while now and all this pre match prattle has persuaded me to join in......well excited and fancy us to run riot. but my head tells me we could be brought back down to earth....2-1 to us.

Fuck off all you lilly livered pessimists.

WE'RE OUT TO WIN THE PREM NOT JUST QUALIFY FOR THE CL.

Danny Boy has traded well with a couple or more still to arrive and we now have some seriously good players and a World class coach.

If we all believe it will happen


BIOYC

COYS


GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Reply to BruceCastle:

Harry, I have been wating for this season to start since we won the League Cup! I can't wait any longer.


The usuual pre-match reviews are leaden with worthless comparisons to this fixture last year or Boro's dazzeling thrashing of Man City on the last day of last season. What?...

Scrubbbbbbers!

I can't say I got too excited about breaking into the Top Four last year. It was obvious that none of the deficiencies that supporters on websites like this had complained about had been remedied. Namely CD, DM, LM and Midfield Napoleon-type. Now that the rats have left/are leaving but Bent has shown his potential, El Ramos has an idea or two and the midfield looks like dynamite with a solid bottom (come on King, don't let those knees go all a trembly), I'm guessing 4th-7th with the variable being mentality.

"Irrespective of the outcome and futures of Robbie and Dimitar, we are continuing to seek to bring in quality, talented players for the future, who want to play in a Spurs shirt."

we have a team that looks like a team.

keane won't be missed like carrick was missed. he gave us 100% but we have a new chapter. 2008/09, year of the Yiddo.

COME ON YOU SPURS!

I'm so excited I could do a sex wee

Reply to Sinceyouasked:

I can't say I got too excited about breaking into the Top Four last year. It was obvious that none of the deficiencies that supporters on websites like this had complained about had been remedied. Namely CD, DM, LM and Midfield Napoleon-type. Now that the rats have left/are leaving but Bent has...

Bang on. It's in their hands now. At least any high hopes this time out are based upon the corrective action that's been taken. My guess is that that isn't over yet either and I don't mean this window. January there'll be a second wave.

Has anyone checked out the spurs site. On transfers everyone bought is on there as is everyone sold apart from steed malbranque.Has he been sold or is he just on loan. MIGHTY SPURS TO WIN 2 - 0.

have become a member!!! hooraay...

is there some sort of hazing ritual?

"Berbatov? Who knows or cares. He's been in the shop window all summer and to what purpose? Faded from prolonged exposure and dead flies his only companions."

Absolute solid gold comment Harry, keep up the good work!

Reply to McMuffin:

have become a member!!! hooraay...

is there some sort of hazing ritual?

Yes, it involves a wet fish and an effigy of Sol Campbell

I hate campbell and his turtle necks.

scouting report:

olympic womens football, china v japan....check out japan's no.8. she has an exquisite touch.

What devastating repartee from the gooner! Did you get your mum to help you?

this vid is better:
LINK
COYS!

Hey, it's past your bedtime young man.

Harry, as soon as he's off to sleep, I'll come back and talk dirty to you, just the way you like it.

Nothing better to do little boy.
Scared? Nervous?
What am i thinking, you need to know about the beatufil attitude that goes with the beautiful game to be a true fan.
Go and do your homework and get a sense of self awareness you sorry excuse for a human being

Reply to skinless:

What devastating repartee from the gooner! Did you get your mum to help you?

no his mum was busy sucking off the milkman to pay her bill, didnt make enough in the sauna the night before!

Alright?...Check out my latest Wallpaper of Darren Bent:

LINK

Cheers!

Evenin' all,

2-1 to the lads, The Boy Bale with a super free kick with Johnny Dos scoring the winner.

Really lookin' forward to this season. Something special WILL happen for us in 08/09.

Isn't the next chinese new year, the year of the cockerel? Doesn't Lennon's eyebrow have mystical powers? Surely Johnny's toothy, impish grin will dazzle opposition defenders? Is it possible that Juande will be able to conduct interviews in perfect english with Norff Landaahn accent?

I, as you do, await with trepidation for events to unfold....



COYS!
BIOYC!

Reply to skinless:

Reply to McMuffin:

have become a member!!! hooraay...

is there some sort of hazing ritual?

Yes, it involves a wet fish and an effigy of Sol Campbell

and a sex wee.

Sexual urine.....sounds like a Hot Chocolate song.

Azza went to bed as you said.

guys, drinking wine out of a tea pot....spohisticated and british.

COYS

Reply to McMuffin:

Sexual urine.....sounds like a Hot Chocolate song.

Azza went to bed as you said.

guys, drinking wine out of a tea pot....spohisticated and british.

COYS

Azza's busy, giving his dad a fresh dirty sanchez.

Reply to McMuffin:

Sexual urine.....sounds like a Hot Chocolate song.

Azza went to bed as you said.

guys, drinking wine out of a tea pot....spohisticated and british.

COYS

I am currently imbibing an ice cold bottle of Corona Extra from that fine country of Mexico, which is also responsible for the mother of young Johnny Dos, Gawd bless 'er.

Reply to Dimpys12:

"Berbatov? Who knows or cares. He's been in the shop window all summer and to what purpose? Faded from prolonged exposure and dead flies his only companions."

Absolute solid gold comment Harry, keep up the good work!

i know! he flew up with the rest of the players today and is in the squad for tomorrow!

I just want a melon! LINK

Am quietly confident that this is going to be an amazing year. Taken from the Guilhem Blague Website relating to potential Arshavin etc arrivals is this quote:

'...a source at the club said, "We'll just have to see how these melons taste when we open them up." '

Taken in a different context, it could just mean we're going to rip open Boro and enjoy every single minute. No more am I going to worry about tactics, players etc. We have a very very capable team and the operative word is 'team', coupled with an extremely astute and clever manager.

I've just watched Martin Jol and his new troop take on Klinsi's Bayern in the grand Bundesliga opener. Paul Potts (of X Factor shame) is for some reason a huge star in them parts, and actually opened the show with a rendition of 'nessun dorma' amid fire juggling acrobats, dancers and fireworks. The real drama however was the lack of disciplined defence, the long ball punts, and the we'll try and score one more than you tactics that MBJ has his new team playing.

I certainly won't miss that. No wonder we didn't really believe last year! It eventually got him a 2-2 result tonight, however having now seen the Ramos approach pre-season, even with as yet a still slightly incomplete Ramos moulded team, somehow the butterflies have departed and I am simply waiting for the 3 points come 5 o'clock.

However large the win is for Spurs, I will predict now that this will taste sweeter than any other season in my living memory.

Glory Glory awaits.

i got one for you fellas, i spoke to david bentleys best mate the other night and they are going up to watch the game. one of the lads is called "whale" and they are taking a blow up whale to the game. he said if DB scores he is gonna grab the whale and celebrate so look out for that one!

"dead flies his only companions"

C'mon lads, yous are bad, but not not that bad.

Flies are a horibble, disgusting, ugly, stinking, dieseased filled, sub-species who feast on shite...

Oh...

Reply to Azza:

"dead flies his only companions"

C'mon lads, yous are bad, but not not that bad.

Flies are a horibble, disgusting, ugly, stinking, dieseased filled, sub-species who feast on shite...

Oh...

LMFAO, I dont think he understands... bless him.

Reply to Azza:

"dead flies his only companions"

C'mon lads, yous are bad, but not not that bad.

Flies are a horibble, disgusting, ugly, stinking, dieseased filled, sub-species who feast on shite...

Oh...

azza, leave it out and fuck off will you, the adults are talking. Whats your summer holiday homework? take how many injured players you have, divide by your final league position=how many young frenchmans bollocks uncle arsene can fit in his mouth in one go - thats yid algebra for ya - now fuck off

Reply to calebray:

Reply to Azza:

"dead flies his only companions"

C'mon lads, yous are bad, but not not that bad.

Flies are a horibble, disgusting, ugly, stinking, dieseased filled, sub-species who feast on shite...

Oh...

azza, leave it out and fuck off will you, the adults are talking. Whats your summer holiday homework? take how many injured players you have, divide by your final league position=how many young frenchmans bollocks uncle arsene can fit in his mouth in one go - thats yid algebra for ya - now fuck off

dont worry about that little cunt, just shows theres nothing exciting going on the scum front to be looking on here. azza your a berk and i hope we meet at liverpool street on oct 29th you little prick.

'The life of every man is a way to himself, an attempt at a way, the suggestion of a path. No man has ever been utterly himself, yet every man strives to be so, the dull, the intelligent, each one as best he can. Each man to the end of his days carries round with him vestiges of his birth - the slime and egg shells of the primeval world. There are many who never become human; they remain frogs, lizards, ants.' Demian, Hermann Hesse.

You, Azza, are a subhuman frog eyed lizard, crawling among the ants.

Now fuck off.

Reply to johnnyg:

Reply to calebray:

Reply to Azza:

"dead flies his only companions"

C'mon lads, yous are bad, but not not that bad.

Flies are a horibble, disgusting, ugly, stinking, dieseased filled, sub-species who feast on shite...

Oh...

azza, leave it out and fuck off will you, the adults are talking. Whats your summer holiday homework? take how many injured players you have, divide by your final league position=how many young frenchmans bollocks uncle arsene can fit in his mouth in one go - thats yid algebra for ya - now fuck off

dont worry about that little cunt, just shows theres nothing exciting going on the scum front to be looking on here. azza your a berk and i hope we meet at liverpool street on oct 29th you little prick.

fair dues and on that note im of to bed with azza's mum and sister - going for the gobshite threeway
oh and another thing BIOYC - nighty night

Reply to TMWNN:

'The life of every man is a way to himself, an attempt at a way, the suggestion of a path. No man has ever been utterly himself, yet every man strives to be so, the dull, the intelligent, each one as best he can. Each man to the end of his days carries round with him vestiges of his birth - the...

or as Rage Against The Machine so eloquently put it - know your enemy!!!!
3-1 to the spurs tommorrow - ta t a

Azza has left the building.

I used a Nit Comb on him.

Problems wie arses I see HH.

Has he not been near any chip pans yet...

9/10 accidents happen in the home, eh?

He sounds like an accident in genetic engineering.

Just so you guys know and can sleep alittle easier tonight.
I was just on Will Hill playing some poker and heard from a close friend of Hutton's Dad, that he wil be back next week for the Sunderland game. So I'd guess he's training now.
I also here he's moving into Robbo old pad on monday, its a good thing he doesnt have to use his hands....... oh yer, he takes throw ins


Im not ITK, just thought I'd let you guys know we should be back to full strength in a week or 2

Team for Boro

Gomes
Zokora King Woody Bale
Jenas
Bentley Modric J2S
Berba-soonoff Bent

Reply to kwakspur:

Just so you guys know and can sleep alittle easier tonight.
I was just on Will Hill playing some poker and heard from a close friend of Hutton's Dad, that he wil be back next week for the Sunderland game. So I'd guess he's training now.
I also here he's moving into Robbo old pad on...

Nice one. Al's a gem.

Your team looks decidedly likely. I would only swap O'Hara for Berbatov and move J2S up 'a bit'.

What with last season's kippered opener leaving an underlying stench still hanging around my minds eye level grill, I predict a 4-0 Spurs win but would actually take a 1-0 og win as a triumph of relief over utter despondency.

I see that not only has maureenio given us his verbal jinx for the 2nd year running but that his replacement phat phil has taken up the baton by declaring us as one of eight teams (yes, you heard right) capable of challenging for the premiership title. A gentleman maybe but a scolar i don't think so.

I've been gazing at the two squads and their managers.

This ought to be a turkey shoot.

anyone know which site i need for spurs game tomorrow, downloaded the sopcast and wanna watch us get off to a flyer?

LINK

anyone know which site i need for spurs game tomorrow, downloaded the sopcast and wanna watch us get off to a flyer?

Reply to _el__:

What with last season's kippered opener leaving an underlying stench still hanging around my minds eye level grill, I predict a 4-0 Spurs win but would actually take a 1-0 og win as a triumph of relief over utter despondency.

I see that not only has maureenio given us his verbal...

That Phil bloke is using us to dilute... and make out the Big Boy competition starts from 8 out, not 4. And thus make his own task appear greater.

Slippery rogue.

Reply to al:

anyone know which site i need for spurs game tomorrow, downloaded the sopcast and wanna watch us get off to a flyer?

go to www.footballfreeview.com and scoll down to a game and click, it will take you to another screen where you have a tele with 31 channels, you can ask what channel the game's on or someone will give you a link.

Reply to kwakspur:

Reply to al:

anyone know which site i need for spurs game tomorrow, downloaded the sopcast and wanna watch us get off to a flyer?

go to www.footballfreeview.com and scoll down to a game and click, it will take you to another screen where you have a tele with 31 channels, you can ask what channel the game's on or someone will give you a link.

sorry that's www.freeviewfootball.com

Cheers mate, much appreciated!

appetite duly whetted Harry..

the thing about tomoro's game is that if we play anywhere as near as good as we've been playing all pre-season, then Boro just won't / don't have an answer...

however, it being the first day of the season and all, i'm sure the Boro faithful, god bless them, will be looking for blood..

so at the very least they'll put it up to us in a way that you just don't get in pre-season friendlys..

all signs point to a 4-0 win for Spurs.. but Spurs being Spurs it'll probably be 1-1..

exciting times though..

Berb to score if he plays, otherwise Benty...

line up vs boro:
gomes
zokora woody king ekotto
jenas modric
bently dossantos bale
bent

berbatov is dead to me. probly win 4-0, 2 bent, 1 bently & 1 GDS/jenas/bale.

BIOYFBC

Line-up for me will be:
................Gomes..................

Zokora...Woody...King...Bale

.................Jenas...................

Bentley.....Modric....Dos Santos

............Berbatov....................

................Bent...................

Score: 3-1 to Spurs - Bent x 2, Dos Santos x 1

Due to a longstanding social commitment it is highly likey that there willbe no new article after todays game.

101greatgoals.com is fab.

See you in a bit, my dears...

HH, as you are away, can we ask Azza to do the post match report? Could be pretty funny - especially if we destroy Middlesborough!

what's with the new fella on soccer am, what happened to goldstein? he was decent made the whole thing less of a farce.

rubbish, bring on uncle jeff

Hi guys fancy 3-1 spurs bent, bentley & j2s. Anyone know where I can watch online the Boro game without paying???

couple of random questions here guys...
1. has anyone looked at the players profile page on the website and if so could anyone tell me where Ghaly, Stalteri, Lee are cos they seem to have disappeared off of there and you hear nothing of them these days!! Which i might add i view as a good thing, even if there are only 20 players on there!!
2. Does anyone else think that (in pre-season at least) that Assou-Ekotto has really come back playing superbly at LB letting Bale have free reign of the LM role and giving Ramos option down the left, something we havent had for a long time!!
3. Anyone else as optimistic as me about the coming season?
Think im getting too excited but also have that slight expectation that things could go wrong after last year so keeping it all crossed, something the girlfriend aint too happy about but she'll get a shafting when we win... well, if im in any fit state to when i get home from the pub!!
My Prediction... 1-3 Spurs (Bent and Giovani and Bentley)
COYS! BIOYC!!!!!!

LINK

boys get on this... you can't lose. £50 quid just like that

sweet vid just reading Berba has put in a transfer request, hope he gets his wish, done nothing all pre so he can fuk off if the story of a discounted bumshaven is true

COYS!

yid aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmyyyyyy

coys

Tbe Beeb says Berbatovs on the bench with Benty up front alone...it'll give him a taste of what to expect at manure

10am k/o here...just loaded the latest BIN file on my Sat box..Setanta coming in crystal clear ...Beer in the fridge....Kids and Girlfriend sleeping
COYS!!!

confirmed as 4-5-1. no king, no bale, zorka rb e-k lb. jenas modric, lennon, dos santos, bentley, and bent up front.

where is our fit skipper. makes it a proud day for Jenas though leading the team out

Lads, has anyone got a link to either streaming video or online audio?

here mate

LINK

Reply to scar88:

here mate

LINK

i tried that and it didnt work, this is better

LINK

Chingford Spur - try this one LINK

How's your foot, by the way? A victory would do it a power of good, no doubt.

0-0 half time. We better step in the second. Johnny Dos struggling a bit, to be expected I suppose..

Cheers for the links! Little bit better, but still in a cast Yeah a victory would help, but it ain't looking great is it? We're not creating any clear cut chances and Assou-Ekotto is looking a bit shaky! Why didn't Ramos start Bale??

we look like shit

Spurs probably fortunate not to go into half-time a goal down, as Boro had goal generously disallowed.

We started well, passing the ball around - although pace a bit slow, I thought - but Boro gradually forced us back from their final third, where we now seem a bit short of initiative.

Bent hasn't seen much of the ball, but Modric has a lovely turn and forward vision, and Gio has shown some class once or twice.

Whenever Boro get the ball I'm trying to knock it off their feet with my cursor, but I think I have software problem, as it doesn't work.

Reply to 2DayArry:

we look like shit

at least we aren't losing. could be 2 or 3 down. the people writin on the wall on that justin.tv website are a bunch of twats. none of them can speak english, they're all wankers

fukin wanker keane as ht enertainment

We were completely dominated in the 1st half. Quick observations:

- we're massively weaker down the left this season, especially on defence. Every Boro attack is down that side. WTF is Bale doing on the bench?
- Huge stepdown in class upfront with Bent & Dos Santos. 2 great crosses from Zokora & Modric would have been goals last season.
- 4 horrible mistakes by Dawson in 1st half. A better club would be up by 3-0. He has to improve or it's going to be a long season. Woodgate has been very strong, though.

Does this sound familiar?

1546: GOAL Everton 1-1 Blackburn
Mikel Arteta spots Blackburn keeper Paul Robinson is out of position and bends a delicious free-kick in at the near post. Clever from Arteta but not a great start to Robbo's Rovers' career.

Reply to Chingford Spur:

Cheers for the links! Little bit better, but still in a cast Yeah a victory would help, but it ain't looking great is it? We're not creating any clear cut chances and Assou-Ekotto is looking a bit shaky! Why didn't Ramos start Bale??

Try any from here LINK

Yes, not looking great. There's a lack of balls in midfield - by which I mean cojones, not the inflatable thingies.

If it's a reality-check for the lads, then all well and good after the pre-season euphoria. It's only half-time of the first game, so it's far too early to cast judgements. The quality and method is there, but the momentum may just take a little longer than we'd like it to arrive. Even so, I believe it will arrive.

Looks like Boro for the win atm

Have to admit Berba and Bale are making a difference.

Our goalie came for a cross........

and got it

Until the goal.

we are fukin shite

Oh bollocks....

Defending shite...yet again.

You wait all that time for the season to start

then wish it hadn't

:: nice dream ::

new season, same shite.

meet the new useless fuckers. same as the last useless fuckers.

Reply to jolsgonemental:

:: nice dream ::

new season, same shite.

meet the new useless fuckers. same as the last useless fuckers.

Word.....

or are we being a little premature

Mido's on for boro, should help our cause.

Gentlemen, whatever the result, I trust this match will actually be our pre-season. It has to get real from here.

Reply to Death:

Our goalie came for a cross........

and got it

Foot meets bullet

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Reply to RunPigRun:

Mido's on for boro, should help our cause.

Fuck.

oh how we crapped on now fukin mido scores fuk we are sooo gooood

Fed up of supporting this club, i really am

Is it me, or did the second goal stem from a Dawson error? My pic so grainy I couldn't tell, but it looked like a blond head that fcuked up on the sideline.

Dawson has been shocking

Reply to fatfish:

Dawson has been shocking

Second that, why does Ramos persist with him?
Why is Led on the bench ffs?

who's predicting the scores for next week

Absolutley terrible , the same old shit . i am shocked by how bad we were

2-1 Wheater o.g. too late

fuk fuk fuk fuk fuk fukf ukf ufk fukf fuk fuk fuk fuk fuk fukf ukf ukf ukf u

Only 1st game but, there was little creativity in midfield, Bent looked lost on his own up front, only Woody looked OK at back, no protection in front of back four.

hello darkness my old friend.

is it only me who associates the end of happy sunny summer days with the start of a new Spurs season?

3 points from first 3 games? havent we been here before?

I really should know better, been supporting this lot since…. Well forever, but I still get optimistic before every season. I convince myself that we have made clever signings and that the pundits and rival fans are full of shit with their “Same old Spurs” stuff.

Then along comes the first game and the rest is history… that keeps fucking repeating itself.

Bollocks

Same old sh*t! We were not fluid enough with our passing. I didn't even know gio was playing for the first 20 minuites. I still think we'll come good.....

same old fucking shit!

dawson is quite unbelievable. seriously, why are you so bad? am i the only one who can see this? you are slow, cannot read an attackers movement, nor a defenders!!!!!!

why did we take dos santos off? he was our best player?

plus points: gomes looks much better than robinson. dos santos is quality. we now know not to put bentley in the middle. (we didn't play him in the middle during pre season so why do it on the first day of the season?)

we need to win more headers. we won none. arshavin will not improve this side.

we need a replacement for dawson.

berbatov actually seemed to care (when we scored he told someone to collect the ball from the net).

bent was too isolated.

arsenal looked woeful, so not all bad. they were luck to play at home against relegation fodder.

middlesborough could challenge the uefa pack for 5th - 8th place.

why can we not play at home on the first day?

I'm not totally down about this result. We always get a tough away fixture to start off the season. However, I think Modric is going to struggle, at least this season. We desperately need an athletic, competitive and assured DM. And Ramos has to play Gunter (until Hutton fit) and Bale at FB. Zokora simply isn't up to the job in any position - why can't Ramos see that? And we need King to play CB - I thought he was supposed to be fit. What's going on there?!

No need for panic, can't say I'm that surprised with today's result. We were spoilt in pre-season but this team is going to take time to gel in the Prem. Certainly looks like Modric and Gio are going to need a few more matches under their belts.

Don't lose the faith and get on the player's backs,support the boys, the results will come and this is only one game. Fair play to Boro they did well, we'll still finish above them though.

COYS

Reply to McMuffin:

dawson is quite unbelievable. seriously, why are you so bad? am i the only one who can see this? you are slow, cannot read an attackers movement, nor a defenders!!!!!!

why did we take dos santos off? he was our best player?

plus points: gomes looks much better than...

arsenal looked shit but at least they have got 3 points.

In the words of David Byrne... Same as it ever was.

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i'm so thoroughly disappointed by this performance. we all thought we'd win and really on what basis?

pre-season?

its just bullshit. every year i get like this and it never changes. aaaaaggggghhhhhhhhh

we can never ever play one up top again. it doesnt work. neither does zokora at full back. i was just watching it towards the end, almost in tears thinking how stupid i was to get carried away. what a shite way to end berbatovs career at spurs... if he had any doubts they are gone now.

only consolation is that my three way bet on all possible outcomes saw me win 45 quid... at least that was worth the fifteen minutes it took setting up various gambling accounts.

So, it's official, we do indeed never learn. For the 3rd season running we have a good build up and then crumble at the first sight of the real deal after several players have used the national press to make premature statements to the effect that we now declare ourselves top 4 and even premiership challengers. How big a fool do we look now? And how I can't wait to meet the rival fans at work.

A midfielder in defence, a right footed left winger, a lightweight midfield in general, no midfield general, a 2nd rate centre-back.

It should have course been 3-1; the first goal was fine. And and how amusing that our first goal of the campaign was a gratuity from last season's 13th placed club.

Swearing's too easy so I'll just say, oh my!


Oh Fucking Cunting my!

Our problem is that we still cant accept Ledley is anything other than a deadweight.

And also Levy's insistance of thrashing the living fuck out of every negotiations we have.

I'm not doubting Ramos at all. . but what the hell were some of those selections today?
Zokora is not a right back, never will be. Asso Ekoto (or whatever the spelling is) was 3rd if not 4th choice left back last season behind Lee, Bale and O'Hara, yet he starts today? Bently can play right or middle, not left, surely Lennon would've been a better bet out there to test wheater. And bar Berbatov we had no match winner on the bench. Maybe we aren't as strong as I thought. Very defensive bench, we need more attacking players. Arshavin plus a striker. Santa Cruz please. Jenas was terrible, he really is an enigma.
Preseason optimism down the fucking tubes . . . fuck it.

in hindsight it is probably unfortunate that it was not Roma who gave us a good hiding.

Dont worry Bent can carry the line, he is gone and got all good now. what the fuck were we thinking?

Vincenzo fuck off!

Nobody cares about your consolation winnings...is this an online gambling site? You see that mentioned anywhere..so take your bets and fuck right off

Same Shit, diffrent year

I'd like to thank Luka Modric and Jermaine Jenas for sttsing that we can challenge the top four..

I'd like to thank Huerelho Gomes and our very own Dannyboy going one better and emphatically telling the world that we're going to win the league..

thank you one and all for making us the absolute laughing stock of the country..

Reply to poyetothepeople:

Vincenzo fuck off!

Nobody cares about your consolation winnings...is this an online gambling site? You see that mentioned anywhere..so take your bets and fuck right off

There's really no need for that fella, no matter the score. We're all Spurs here eh.

We have become Berba-reliant and will need some time to settle without him in our style of play. I don't think Arshavin will help - yet another player that needs to settle into the Premier League. The pace and aerial nature of some of Middlesborough's play was too much for Modric in particular to handle. I don't think Bentley worked too hard either. BALE TO START AT LB. PLEASE!!!

Reply to Death:

I really should know better, been supporting this lot since…. Well forever, but I still get optimistic before every season. I convince myself that we have made clever signings and that the pundits and rival fans are full of shit with their “Same old Spurs” stuff.

Then along comes the...

I feel as though I've been woken from a pleasant dream by a sledge hammer, and now find myself in a sad recurring nightmare with a very sore head.

Reply to jolsgonemental:

Our problem is that we still cant accept Ledley is anything other than a deadweight.

And also Levy's insistance of thrashing the living fuck out of every negotiations we have.

To be fair to Levy, that's why we have money to spend in the first place innit?

But it is worrying that what everyone was saying seems to be true, lightweight midfield, no defensive cover (ahem perhaps that should read no defense at all).

Really, really, really fucked off

In Ramos we trust, COYS, etc… tainted with pessimism

i cant believe how crap we where out there, realy need proper cover for king and a ball winner in the middle, feel like crying, its going to be 1 of those seasons again

Reply to Bimmi:

I'd like to thank Luka Modric and Jermaine Jenas for sttsing that we can challenge the top four..

I'd like to thank Huerelho Gomes and our very own Dannyboy going one better and emphatically telling the world that we're going to win the league..

thank you one and all...

With all due respect Bimi, the players should know better; Dannyboy is supposed to foolishly talk us up, he's a fan. Why are we turning on each other? Dannyboy wasn't playing was he.

The club let us down.

The fans were suckered.

Reply to poyetothepeople:

Vincenzo fuck off!

Nobody cares about your consolation winnings...is this an online gambling site? You see that mentioned anywhere..so take your bets and fuck right off

Spot on. This guy has an agenda and is no real Spurs fan. Vincenzo, take your "safe as houses" piffling £45 dirty money and shove it where the sun don't shine.

Oh well the optimism was good while it lasted.

But never mind there's always next year.

Gomes: Poor for both goals, hope he does turn out to be Robbo's long lost cousin from Brazil

BAE: Good covering at times, piss poor passing at times.

Zokora: Quite simply, not PL standard, AKA shite.

Dawson: Where is the player of 2 seasons ago? A mere shadow now.

Woody: Thank God he plays for us. Solid throughout the game.

Jenas: New season, same old Jermaine. Get ball, run at defenders, lose ball. Repeat ad nauseum.

Modric: Welcome to the Prem son, you can only improve.

Bentley: Can do much better with his delivery as we know, must have been put off by Zok's overlapping runs?

Lennon: I know it's only the start of the season, but I see nothing has changed from him. Deservedly subbed.

Johnny Dos: Started brightly, but big difference between pre season and PL. Like Luka, will adapt.

Bent: Got no change out of Wheater or Huth, supply was shit anyway. At least he didn't sucuumb to any pointy shouty syndrome.

SUBS

Berbatov: Just killing time.. Fuck Off you disinterested, glory hunting, squirrel feeding fuck.

Boy Bale: Made a difference down the left, not helped by the passing of his team mates.

O Hara: If others showed the same desire to get forward, we might have got something from the game. Needs a run in the team like last year.


Overall, a piss poor effort.
Now the new boys know what's expected of them.
Didn't Ramos tell them pre season was over?

Reply to RJ1882:

I'm not doubting Ramos at all. . but what the hell were some of those selections today?
Zokora is not a right back, never will be. Asso Ekoto (or whatever the spelling is) was 3rd if not 4th choice left back last season behind Lee, Bale and O'Hara, yet he starts today? Bently can play right or...

right enough is enough..

Jenas is not an enigma..the actual enigma is that some of you still think he's a f*cking enigma..

ok??

so let's get this straight..he's not up to it, he's not the type of player that can uphold our lofty aspirations..and f*ck me he is certainly not a f*cking captain..

f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck

I'm so f*cking angry..

Reply to Death:

I really should know better, been supporting this lot since…. Well forever, but I still get optimistic before every season. I convince myself that we have made clever signings and that the pundits and rival fans are full of shit with their “Same old Spurs” stuff.

Then along comes the...

I just can't understand why Ekotto started in front of Bale.

Yesterday, King was telling us all how he'll be playing in most of the games. ?

As "Soul II Soul" once famously said....."Back to life, back to reality"

A team of hobbits will not win us games against teams like 'boro

Hmm, so we're not a team yet. No huge surprise.

On the plus side...

-Woody was immense & Gomes looks good.
-Bently/Bale will terrorise if fit and working their natural wings.
-The glimmers we saw of possession football and gear-change-attacks should put lesser teams to the sword.
-JOH is a nutter of the highest calibre.
-Didi put in a cross! (I like to take my plus-points where i can get 'em when it comes to DZ )

Yeah alright, the bad points are there to see, and have been mentioned. We're still light in key areas, and have got a lot of gelling still to do with what we've got.

Cup run anyone?

Zokora made a few functional stops before lapsing into aimless forward-to-sidways runs, taking himself out of position.

Midfield lacked steel; and the fluid, pacey attack that should have bamboozled the opposition didn't manifest. Modric seemed too deep to be of consequence, and Bentley's skills were squandered by stationing him on the left.

Bent has explosive power, but lacks the tricksy imagination of Berbatov. To cap it all, their second was scored by a fat bloke.

Last season I got so used to my weekends ending at 5 o'clock on Saturday. On this performance, this season promises the same.

Reply to CrossWaddle:

Hmm, so we're not a team yet. No huge surprise.

On the plus side...

-Woody was immense & Gomes looks good.
-Bently/Bale will terrorise if fit and working their natural wings.
-The glimmers we saw of possession football and gear-change-attacks should put lesser...

LESSER TEAMS!!??

LESSER F*CKING TEAMS!!??

WE WERE PLAYING MIDDLES-F*CKING-BROUGH TODAY...

HOW MUCH LESSER OF A TEAM CAN WE F*CKING GET??

To be serious. It will take time for the team to gell and Boro are a bit of a bogey team for us.

Our main problem is up front where we have had a terrific scoring partnership who seemed capable of scoring at any time in most games. Bent does not look any where near the standard of Berba and Bob and pre-season means nothing the Prem is where it counts.

"Doesn't" I meant.

Reply to _el__:

Reply to Bimmi:

I'd like to thank Luka Modric and Jermaine Jenas for sttsing that we can challenge the top four..

I'd like to thank Huerelho Gomes and our very own Dannyboy going one better and emphatically telling the world that we're going to win the league..

thank you one and all...

With all due respect Bimi, the players should know better; Dannyboy is supposed to foolishly talk us up, he's a fan. Why are we turning on each other? Dannyboy wasn't playing was he.

The club let us down.

The fans were suckered.

You're right el..

I didn't mean to single Dannyboy out as i'm sure there were many more..

appologies Dannyboy..

Reply to Bimmi:

Reply to RJ1882:

I'm not doubting Ramos at all. . but what the hell were some of those selections today?
Zokora is not a right back, never will be. Asso Ekoto (or whatever the spelling is) was 3rd if not 4th choice left back last season behind Lee, Bale and O'Hara, yet he starts today? Bently can play right or...

right enough is enough..

Jenas is not an enigma..the actual enigma is that some of you still think he's a f*cking enigma..

ok??

so let's get this straight..he's not up to it, he's not the type of player that can uphold our lofty aspirations..and f*ck me...

Jenas on his day can look pretty good. But i'm with you, he's not up to it consistently, yet we are going to have him starting evey game this season for us, vice captain and all that. Hopefully today was just oen of those days. Nobody played well, bar Woody, but thats because he had so much to do. Hopefully when we have Hutton, King and Bale in the back line,l Bentley in his preferred wide right position and a partner for Bent we'll be ok.
Where's Smoothcheeks????
I'm depressed, want to watch a good movie to cheer myself up. Any suggestions???

Reply to poyetothepeople:

Vincenzo fuck off!

Nobody cares about your consolation winnings...is this an online gambling site? You see that mentioned anywhere..so take your bets and fuck right off

Cross Waddle - we'll put lesser teams to the sword? How many teams will be lesser than Boro? And we need to scrap for every result away from home...we won't achieve much in the League (maybe UEFA) with a midfield of talented mincers.

Reply to RJ1882:

Reply to Bimmi:

Reply to RJ1882:

I'm not doubting Ramos at all. . but what the hell were some of those selections today?
Zokora is not a right back, never will be. Asso Ekoto (or whatever the spelling is) was 3rd if not 4th choice left back last season behind Lee, Bale and O'Hara, yet he starts today? Bently can play right or...

right enough is enough..

Jenas is not an enigma..the actual enigma is that some of you still think he's a f*cking enigma..

ok??

so let's get this straight..he's not up to it, he's not the type of player that can uphold our lofty aspirations..and f*ck me...

Jenas on his day can look pretty good. But i'm with you, he's not up to it consistently, yet we are going to have him starting evey game this season for us, vice captain and all that. Hopefully today was just oen of those days. Nobody played well, bar Woody, but thats because he had so much to do....

dumb and dumber!

Reply to 9__37:

Zokora made a few functional stops before lapsing into aimless forward-to-sidways runs, taking himself out of position.

Midfield lacked steel; and the fluid, pacey attack that should have bamboozled the opposition didn't manifest. Modric seemed too deep to be of consequence, and...

Cheer up there's bound to be a few Sunday games.

berbatov actually seemed to care (when we scored he told someone to collect the ball from the net).



If that cunt cared, he would've RAN to the net and get the ball himself. Believe you me, this a man who puts himself above all others around him, today he made it look good for the cameras.

Will he act that way at OT? Will he fuck. As HH put it "Shrek bawling 'Get yer fooking foot round the c*nting thing yer fooking half dead c*nt yer'" is what the Bulgarian can expect.


As I said, just killing time...

Reply to scar88:

Reply to RJ1882:

Reply to Bimmi:

Reply to RJ1882:

I'm not doubting Ramos at all. . but what the hell were some of those selections today?
Zokora is not a right back, never will be. Asso Ekoto (or whatever the spelling is) was 3rd if not 4th choice left back last season behind Lee, Bale and O'Hara, yet he starts today? Bently can play right or...

right enough is enough..

Jenas is not an enigma..the actual enigma is that some of you still think he's a f*cking enigma..

ok??

so let's get this straight..he's not up to it, he's not the type of player that can uphold our lofty aspirations..and f*ck me...

Jenas on his day can look pretty good. But i'm with you, he's not up to it consistently, yet we are going to have him starting evey game this season for us, vice captain and all that. Hopefully today was just oen of those days. Nobody played well, bar Woody, but thats because he had so much to do....

dumb and dumber!

Good call, but i'm looking for something more up to date.
Anyone seen In Bruges? Trailors look good . . .

Reply to RunPigRun:

berbatov actually seemed to care (when we scored he told someone to collect the ball from the net).



If that cunt cared, he would've RAN to the net and get the ball himself. Believe you me, this a man who puts himself above all others around him, today he made it look...

another fool..

From the back of my limo heading south i review for you:

Spurs showed glimpses of the slick passing that I witnessed in Holland, but we seemed to be trying to switch and change a little too much and as such nobody had a defined position. Dos Santos who had been so effective in pre season coming in from the left, was deployed wide right for a lot of the game, intermittent with Lennon and Bentley in a kind of switching system; but it just looked a little too much too soon. Dos Santos was lively in the first half, Modric and Bentley were average. Bent didn’t really get any decent chances to be worth evaluating, and he sorely missed a link man. This should have been Modric, but for the most part he was playing a dual holding role with Jenas which just didn’t work. During the second half Modric played a little more assertively, but nothing amazing. Jenas was trying to spur the team on and made some good runs, but as is often the ending, nobody could keep up with him and he ran into walls. Assou Ekkoto is an enigma. In a 352 wingback formation, a la England in Euro 96, Assou Ekotto would be the ultimate left wing back. His attacking speed often caught out the ‘boro defence, and his some of his crosses were out of the David Ginola handbook, but he left holes too often. He is a solid player but perhaps better utilised as a left wing - Time shall tell. Dawson was pretty and ‘last-season-like’ for the whole game, and is without doubt the weak link in the team. King’s presence on the bench tells us 3 things; one, he is being saved for ‘bigger games’, two, if he isn’t ready now he never will be, and three, we need a replacement ASAP as this was a ‘smaller team’ and Dawson was out of his league. Woodgate was rock solid, and Zokora played well in the unfamiliar right back role. Gomes looked solid and couldn’t do much about either goal.
Gomes 6
Zokora 7
Woodgate 8.5
Dawson 5
Assou-Ekotto 7
Bentley 6
Jenas 6
Modric 6
Lennon 6
Dos Santos 7
Bent 6

In Bruges is a good film..

Subs
Bale, Berbatov, o Hara

Bale looked sharp, Berba was trying to find gaps, and O’Hara was sweating blood.


From what was seen today, it was clear that the players are still learning their roles. We need a midfield player to take the ‘behing the striker’ role as Bent didn’t have enough support. Berba being on the bench surely means he’s off. Bentley needs to be played wide right and not left. Dos Santos should be wide left. Zokora or Huddlestone need to come in at DM and let Modric and Jenas move up field, as today they were far too deep and constantly covering each other; reminiscent of the Gerrard/Lampard England problem of them not being able to compliment each other due to a lack of the anchor man.

I will leave with one thought. For all our signings, (and don’t get me wrong I think they are great signings), think back to the end of last season. What areas did almost every Spurs fan know that we needed strengthening in?

Answer. A decent centre back to cover Ledley. A solid Midfield General to play DM. A replacement for Defoe. A left footed winger.

Now look at our signings. All wonderful players arguably, but no CB, no DM, and although Dos Santos is left footed he was playing right. And we have 1 Striker with the part time Bulgarian doing the off. Bale looks as though he could play left mid, but I can’t help thinking that he would be more effective at left back, flying down the flank on the overlap. If Zokora is our DM, then he must play at DM and not right back; we have Gunter to cover that. If Zokora is not the DM, then a) where is Huddlestone??, or b) Ramos is flicking through his contact book as I write this, desperately trying to fill the whole before Aug 31.

The point is, players ought to barred from making outrageous claims that they're ready to challenge for the highest honours. Use some intelligence, guys. Tell us your intention is to win every game, that's all. Absurd statements of personal and team aspirations only return like chickens, to roost at the end of the season.

And on the first day of the season.

So, in future, keep it shtum. Win games, let the points do the talking and the trophies will take care of themselves.

I must admit, in my heart of heart, I felt a disappointment was likely, so I was prepared. It still hurts like fcuk, though. I refuse to believe the team won't gel and improve. Pessimism won't make me feel better or help me appraise the coming games objectively. This was our real, hard-core, in-your-face pre-season, and the new boys' introduction to the PL. Now they, and the rest, have to suck up and deal

Here's something for you - i read that we are unbeaten in our last five pre-seasons! Bodes well.....

Bim & Ching. I meant bottom-third 'lesser'. We're not going to be flaying any top-ten teams alive on that performance.

That said, Im sure Gus & JuanD are doing some flaying of their own right now. Hopefully we'll see a bit more metal-n-magic next time out. (we can only get better, and all that shite )

Bahhh, I cant believe we lost to Boro. Im gutted, but at the end of the day, one game doesnt make a season.

Have faith in Ramos my fellow spurs

COYS

felt the need to let my anger out somewhere and after watching harrys great vidio yesterday i was really excited about today! not harrys fault but we were let down today badly! Im soooo angry!! top4 my arse! if we cannot even get a point from the riverside then 7th or 8th will be an achivement!

Reply to Bimmi:

Reply to RunPigRun:

berbatov actually seemed to care (when we scored he told someone to collect the ball from the net).



If that cunt cared, he would've RAN to the net and get the ball himself. Believe you me, this a man who puts himself above all others around him, today he made it look...

another fool..

You said it.

I was duped like everybody else. He kept quiet and let his filthbag agent to his bidding.

The man isn't fit to wear the lilywhite, we all know it.

Fans are more insightful than they get credit for. Plain facts to them seem obscure to others: DM, CB, height.

Whether we'll get them or not, Spurs are still a work in progress. Today's daubings don't merit hanging on a gallery wall, but I'm still hopeful we'll get a masterpiece to be proud of before the season is too long.

No i was actually talking about you there RunPigRun..

fuck this shit.. i hate Spurs.. talk to ye tomoro lads..

1 loss and everyone loses it!

Easy lads. It is the first game of the season and every team is up for it. It can almost be compared to the FA Cup. Upsets happen.

Lets just chill. Hope for a couple more signings before the window shuts and get behind the lads!

Jeeez. I dont care about being optimistic. I dont care about Spurs fans being optimistic. What i hate is fickleness!

I am seeing so many frequent posters now ridiculing some of Ramos' choices. He made the same choices as many of us did. We just lost!
Deal with it. Next match is another day!

FFS!

I feel embarrassed by some of the post match posts on here!

Reply to Bimmi:

No i was actually talking about you there RunPigRun..

fuck this shit.. i hate Spurs.. talk to ye tomoro lads..

Yeah, I grasped that Bimi... I'm a fool and hate the sight of us losing again to a team we should be turning over if we have any ambition this season.

You may think the sun shines out his arse, but I don't.

Billy - did you pick Assou-Ekotto at LB with Bale on the bench? Did you pick Zokora at RB? I'm surprised if you did to say the least!

Over the past few wekes, Ramos kept saying that it was performances, not results, that mattered. Maybe the lads took that a little too literally. Ironically, most of us would have taken a result over a performance today.

I'm not glad the team lost but, after their pre-season exuberance, losing is a leveller. It will adapt and respond.

Pre-season was a series of comfortable rehearsals. Today, on the day of the opening performance, maybe the cast got stage-fright.

They will get better.

I cant believe Im gonna say this, but im happy the score was what it was...
It lets Ramos know we are nowhere near what he hoped we were in pre season.

Aint we lucky there's still 2wks before the transfer window closes.

We need a veloso or a serious HOLDING MIDFIELDER.

DAWS is a Liability as Ive always said, he dont even deserve to be back up, he's just one of those players who you know will always make a mistake (a big one).

Ramos was dying to bring on another striker that cared about playing for us, and al he had on the bench was Berba-soonoff.

Those three signing and Arshvin should make the difference we need.

I think we were lightweight in midfield, mainly coz of Jenas, he cant play every game.
We passed if well at 1st but then with the chances we made we couldnt finish them.
That was the main problem,then that gave Boro confidence.

The Mido goal just rubbed our faces in it, I couldnt help smiling.

We can still finish 4th, its only one game
Ar5ena1 looked ordinary AT HOME!
Liverpool look ordinary.

We're playing away from home, so calm down guys, dont over react.

It not like our 1st game against Everton last season @ home, that wasfuckin poor!

I still TRUST IN RAMOS

HE'LL SORT IT!

Wow - that was really dissapointing, with pre-season hopes coming crashing down to Earth.

Indeed, as some have said - despite all our buys, it's painfully obvious we still lack a DM, CB, LW and striker.

Plus side... liked seeing our keeper throwing the ball to our own players - rather than Robbo hoofing it long only for a teamate to lose out on a 50/50 ball. Makes sense to keep tthe ball when you have it.

But Jenas is forever frustrating. No steel in midfield whatsoever. Bentley and Zokora played out of position -- why was this necessary?Dawson was the worst player on the pitch (what has happened to him? and I thought King was supposed to have been healthy now?



Dos Santos and Modric will come good.

Reply to poyetothepeople:

Vincenzo fuck off!

Nobody cares about your consolation winnings...is this an online gambling site? You see that mentioned anywhere..so take your bets and fuck right off

don't be a prick...

take it on the chin. im gutted as i said.. that was a throwaway comment.

no its not a gambling site but neither is it a peer to peer and im willing to bet you'll click on those links that appear so's you can watch the game.

fact is, im a spurs fan you're a spurs fan- so have some respect you numpty

My oh my, wheres the lfet winger we've needed for 3 years. Jenas is not good enuff, modric doesnt get forward enuff. Dawson has lost the plot.
False dawn number 25 for me

Reply to Chingford Spur:

Reply to poyetothepeople:

Vincenzo fuck off!

Nobody cares about your consolation winnings...is this an online gambling site? You see that mentioned anywhere..so take your bets and fuck right off

Spot on. This guy has an agenda and is no real Spurs fan. Vincenzo, take your "safe as houses" piffling £45 dirty money and shove it where the sun don't shine.

have you had too much to drink?

i saw a link to a bet online and thought i'd share it. fuck me i've never seen such an overeaction in my life.

we lost... im gutted u're gutted but jesus christ. agenda, what agenda? paranoia...

no real spurs fan lol. on what basis? do i have to justify this? will you explain the variables?

i don't have the duvet cover. no
i don't wear a kit every weekend. no
i take half hearted consolation from a small bet that i mistakenly considered sharing.

i can only apologise for i have not only let you down, but myself.

is it really me you ought to abusing? just cos you're pissed off we lost? im pissed off too. i was excited all week and felt let down...

dirty money lol! listen to yourself... have a little lie down and come back when you're ready to apologise. i know you're upset, i'll be here.

Reply to Chingford Spur:

Billy - did you pick Assou-Ekotto at LB with Bale on the bench? Did you pick Zokora at RB? I'm surprised if you did to say the least!

True.

But how many have spoken the holy words:
'In Ramos We Trust'

So many have said that in the last 48 hours.....

...and i still believe it.

In Ramos We Trust.


or should we expect him out by october???? Your call lads.


Fickle bastards.

Bimi - love your passion! Keep it up!

Gus_Poet - best post of the day, all good points. Modric plays DM for Croatia, but was sure we were going to put him in more of an attacking role. His distribution was solid all game, the passes were just coming from too far back on the pitch.

The worst player I've seen in the 4 EPL matches today by far was Dawson. I counted 9 mistakes, and 6 lost marks - 3 of which ended up in goals.

I was 100% certain that Dawson would be a bit player from the bench this season, which is the best he can offer. If King isn't healthy enough to start then why was Gardner let go, and why the f*k didn't JR sign a CB?

Lost a lot of respect for JR today. Besides the Dawson debacle, team selection was dismal and his adjustments weren't very good (Dos Santos was our best player, Bentley/Lennon should have come off. Also, he never corrected for Boro's constant attacks down our left. Ekotto was burned all match & look lost at the back)

lets not lose perspetive, boro were good today and we were unable to dictate. it takes time to gel, especially with so many new players.

there were obviously a couple of selections that raised eyebrows but if anything ramos knows now that we cant do with one up top...

we cant just suddenly assume that bentley, modric, dos santos and the likes aren't up to scratch. arsenal and liverpool were poor today too...

can't have helped the berbatov saga mind...

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Reply to poyetothepeople:

Vincenzo fuck off!

Nobody cares about your consolation winnings...is this an online gambling site? You see that mentioned anywhere..so take your bets and fuck right off

Spot on. This guy has an agenda and is no real Spurs fan. Vincenzo, take your "safe as houses" piffling £45 dirty money and shove it where the sun don't shine.

have you had too much to drink?

i saw a link to a bet online and thought i'd share it. fuck me i've never seen such an overeaction in my life.

we lost... im gutted u're gutted but jesus christ. agenda, what agenda? paranoia...

no real spurs fan lol. on...

I myself normally subscribe to the Peter Cook rule. ie. always bet on Spurs to lose, then if we win you don't care about the lost money if we lose you have some cash to console you.

Unfortunately blind optimism led me astray and I bet on a Spurs win. I followed your link but didn't take the advice as I already had a betfair account. Ah well, normal service has been resumed.

Our first mistake was to not put ledley out to pasture after the CC final. At least then we could stop deluding ourselves and get busy filling the huge gaping gap in our back line.

He couldnt even manage to get fit for the first game.

finished. move on, he is holding us back now.

Second. Bent. What the fuck were we thinking , pre season optimism gone mad, this man cant lead our line. he is a about as much use as a plank of wood up front.

Third. Overpriced English shit is just that and always will be no matter how much money we waste on the,. DOnt kiss the club badge when you arent and never have been a yid. insincere cunt. its easy being the big 'I am' in knock about preseason games.

j2s:

i wasn't sure if i could be arsed tbh. just had this nagging feeling that the weekend wasn't gonna turn out as i hoped!

had to do it in the end cos i'm flat broke and i want the new 3rd shirt- thats my consolation... feeble as it is.

cant decide what name to get now- was gonna get dos santos but he goes by giovanni which is a bit generic. shame. probably go for bale or bentley

Bit hacked off that King and Bale didn't start! I haven't watched the game yet but will watch it in full on BT Vision later!

I really was optimistic about this game and feel really downbeat that we not only lost but were outplayed according to reports!

Heard Dawson was poo, we need a quality centre back ASAP!

Reply to daytripper:

Bimi - love your passion! Keep it up!

Gus_Poet - best post of the day, all good points. Modric plays DM for Croatia, but was sure we were going to put him in more of an attacking role. His distribution was solid all game, the passes were just coming from too far back on the...

Thanks daytripper. I also find it ironic that Dimi was the only player in a white shirt who looked dangerous in attack. Despite a midfield chaulked full of passers, Bent was starved of service. The situation improved when Berb came on, and I sensed the Bulgarian's frustration when he called for Bent to return a pass for what would have almost certainly been a goal, only to watch Bent try his luck from a more accute angle and fail. If he didn't want out before, he must certainly will after today's display. Just hope if/when he goes (hopefully to Barca NOT Manure) that we are able to replace him with another striker of similar class and ability. Smoothbum is a great player, but will he be able to play up front in a 4-4-2? No. Kanoute? No thanks, been there done that. Too old, too much money. I hope DL & JR have a master plan, cuz surely this ain;t the finished article?

Wanted Before 31 August 2008:

Left Back. Center Back (Woody can't do EVERYTHING)
Holding Midfielder
Hungry Striker (Bent worked very hard, but did not position himself well)

Not Wanted:
BAE (pass it to us not them you muppet) Dawson (FFS get you were beaten on every goal -- even the disallowed one -- go back to Nottingham Forrest and try not to lose you bearings on the way)

I cannot believe what I saw this afternoon. Flashes of promise punctuating an utterly miserable lack of ambition and creativity.

Gomes, Bale, Woody and Bale do not deserve to be lumped in with this criticism. The rest including the manager do. I hope they get it together before sunderland blow into town.

Reply to vincenzo_spur:

j2s:

i wasn't sure if i could be arsed tbh. just had this nagging feeling that the weekend wasn't gonna turn out as i hoped!

had to do it in the end cos i'm flat broke and i want the new 3rd shirt- thats my consolation... feeble as it is.

cant decide...

Vinny 2 points :


1. Ignore those tossers we know you are Tottenham.

2. Peter Cook is/was a God and his wisdom must never be doubted

Reply to onedavemackay:

Reply to vincenzo_spur:

j2s:

i wasn't sure if i could be arsed tbh. just had this nagging feeling that the weekend wasn't gonna turn out as i hoped!

had to do it in the end cos i'm flat broke and i want the new 3rd shirt- thats my consolation... feeble as it is.

cant decide...

Vinny 2 points :


1. Ignore those tossers we know you are Tottenham.

2. Peter Cook is/was a God and his wisdom must never be doubted

nice one mate...

always bugs me when people bitch. if i wanna argue i'll sign into a gooners blog.

peter cook... amen

Why did we not play hudd and modric in the center ? regardless of jj being vice captain i thought thudd would of done a better job at dm no question, he could of sat in front of the back 4 while modric had a licsense to roam. I think JR will sort it though 'cos this was not good enough,surely we can only improve on that underwhelming,shaky performance!

There was one play that said it all to me today from a bar in Boca Raton Florida.....

Dawson gets the ball with no one on him takes a huge back swing like he's going to route 1 it down field and stops his kick as he's comming down on the ball before passing it short....

If you have to think what you're doing when not under pressure, then how the hell can you operate when under pressure...

Told myself I was going to stay home and watch it from the safety of my computer..Spurs Away, Openning Day = huge dissapointment..but noooooooooo this year will be different..couldn't resist and get laughed at by all the scousers waiting for the next game...feel like Charlie Brown kicking the amercian football,,,

God this team has a way of aging you......

Fuck me .. new season, same old Tottenham .. I mean for fuck sake we were terrible. Get rid of that fucking Dawson. Any why the fuck was fucking Bale not on from the fucking start?? Modric was average .. why the fuck was Berbatov not on from the start? Lennon .. send him to knackers yard with Dawson .. stil can't cross a f/cking ball ..

Sometimes I think this team is cursed!

and fucking fucking Mido scored the fucking winner .. thats the fucking icing on the fucking cake that is ..

to be honest, ye today was absolute shit. we didnt even turn up first half. but first day of the season, we never win, sunderland next week at home, basically they've turned into spurs reserves, and ramos will want 2 give a statement of intent after today, especially infront of home crowd. its 1 fuckin game boys, 37 left, we could win all of them.we wont though. im tryin to be positive but its not really workin. anyway we need to stop bein fickle. ramos has said hes gonna bring in a few replacements before the window closes so lets wait and see.

another thing, from the bbc website:

"With summer signing Keane making his league debut up front alongside Torres, much was expected from Liverpool's £46m strikeforce.

But Keane failed to sparkle throughout and he was taken off six minutes before Torres' late strike."
i like hearin that

Up to a point, Dawson could be forgiven for errors he made last season, as he was partnered by the clueless Kaboul and marshalled by Robinson. But, considering he now has two excellent examples to learn from (in Woodgate and King), and has had the opportunity of learning his trade anew under Ramos and Poyet, it was astonishing to see how feeble was his effort to defend our goal today.

One of King's remarkable qualities is that he disposes himself almost exclusively to defend. His first thought and primary motive is to stop the opposition scoring. The same can't be said of Zokora and Huddlestone, when they deputise at Centre-Back. Nor can it said of Dawson, who doesn't appear to understand the meaning of 'Thou shalt not pass'.

Jenas still polarises opinion. To do him justice, I think he's a fine player and an excellent athlete. He's neither useless nor (as some would insist) worse than useless. But, to do us justice, I simply don't think he's good enough. Perhaps he (and a few others) are unclear what their roles are at present. Is he attacking or defending? Which position is best? I don't know. But it's fair to say he ought to able to to a reasonably decent job of either. I was baffled when he was made vice-captain because, at the back of my mind, I always felt that he - along with Zokora, Dawson, Huddlestone and a few others - might be employed as transitional labour. I supposed that, after the first wave of outgoing personnel, there would be a second next year, making way for the next wave of incoming. I still think that may be the case but, if it's not, this season must surely be the 'last chance saloon' for some players, including Jenas, Zokora and Dawson.

As for King, his ongoing absence is like that crazy situation at work where, due to sickness, your team is under-staffed in a key area but, for some reason, the management insists of waiting for the regular encumbent to return. Meantime, the consequences pile up around you. It's a kind of insanity.

"It's a kind of insanity."

It's recurring nightmare that's what it is. One i've been having since I started supporting tottenham low all yhose years ago. You me and all the rest of us are all bleeding insane, that's being a spurs supporter. Cursed.

yid16 - Keane had absolutely no service today, and just like Berbatov & Bent he had to go to midfield to get any touches. Difference for them is they have 2 great mids out at the Olympics - we have no excuses.

My happiest part of the day was watching Chimbo suck big time - if the game was at Anfield he would have caused 2 pk's. Every time he tried to go forward, Keane screamed at him, and absolutely would not allow him go past midfield (great coaching by Roy!).

Is anybody else as disappointed in Bentley as I am? Did we have any clue his defending was so dreadful? The 1st half Boro, attacked relentlessly down our left, then when JR moved Bentley to the right and brought on Bale, they switched to our right flank, blew through David and really exposed Dawson & Zokora. His corners were poor, I can't recall any good passes, and he looked shaky on both shots.

Fuck sake -. I hate sunday newspapers when we lose. I hate when we lose full stop, especially when we play totally rubbish. That was very disappointing. What will change with the arrival of Arshavin? And where will he play? Behind Bent? On the left? Do we need him at all? Is Dos Santos doing to feature more up front or on the left? I need answers.
My choice would be Bentley, Modric, Jenas, Giovani, Arshavin and Bent completing the frint 6. Though really, Jenas isnt good enough, Hudd hasnt made the expected step up and Lennon is a limited footballer with exceptional pace. In an ideal world we'd keep a happy Berbatov, Sign Diarra or Mikel and Arshavin, complete the Corluka deal and sign up Capel - that would be a complete squad with real quality.
We'll just have to wait and see - but beat by a poor middlesborough will hopefully have opened Ramos's eyes.

RJ1882 - I believe the plan is that Arshavin would play at striker to the left of Bent and Gio would move to the right flank.

You know what, BC, it is insane.

After one frigging match I start looking at the table, contemplating our position in it, and weighing up its relative strengths and weaknesses. I start thinking ahead, and pondering on what seem like oncoming trains - such as next week's game, for example, in which fate (like Mido today) could easily laugh at us, by conspiring that our former players overturn us. Insanely, I begin to calculate the possible number of points available from the remaining 37 games, setting aside the inevitable zeros and adding together the desperately few threes; and I agonise over whether it will be enough to keep us up.

There ought to be some protection against this, such as a Sanity Clause. But I donta believe inna Sanity Clause.

Been back an hour now, had a beer, still dont know what to say apart from;

a) i missed all the pre-season games so it slipped my attention - how can we be expected to suceed with a team of midgets? Lennon, ekotto, modric & dos santos in the same team is bad news.

b) berbatov was different class when he came on.

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You know what, BC, it is insane.

After one frigging match I start looking at the table, contemplating our position in it, and weighing up its relative strengths and weaknesses. I start thinking ahead, and pondering on what seem like oncoming trains - such as next week's game, for...

We must be completely barking to have believed it was ever going to be different.

However, if there is a Prem League for Dwarves we'll be right up there.

grazza, dont care how good berba was, he dont wanna be there. we will be ok once we settle in.

lads, this was the first game of the season. there are too many unknowns. we played a notoriously tricky opposition away (for the fifth year in a row) and lost. we were not shat on. we just didn't get it right in the defensive midifeld area. this will be overcome. jenas should probably be dropped for o'hara but i cannot see this happening.

we should not worry. the lost points, at this stage is nothing to worry about as long as the team realised where we went wrong. we walked in to this game full of too much self belief. we thought we could turn up today and pas it around conmfortably.....not in the premier league. we put some nice moves together but did not maintain focus. this was a big lesson for the team.....it will take time. but let's not jump on thier backs. we need to support this group. they are spurs boys, and actually look like resmebling a team for the first time in years.

Deja Vu?

I feel like I've gone back 12 months in time.

New signings, attacking flair, millions spent investing in youth, same old GLARING problems exist.

We played with one defender yesterday.

Our back four (bar Woodgate) were absolutely ABYSMAL.

Jenas - Nowhere, Bent - Nowhere, Lennon - Nowhere, King - LITERALLY Nowhere.

Modric looked out of his depth, Bentley's 'top class' delivery ranged from 'terrible' to 'tragic.'

Dos Santos showed glimpses of speed and dash but was largely unsupported.

Berbarov played his last game for us and we are completely screwed without him, he was the only player that showed any invention or creativity.

He created out best chance of the match and should have been given the chance to finish it by our CAPTAIN Jenas. Jenas showed no leadership skills whatsoever and was hardly a presense that a captain should be.

I am gob-smacked, I really do hope this is a false indication of things to come.

And on a side note, Robbo's Blackburn got up, Keano's Liverpool did the same and so to did Gardner's Hull.

Infact, Teemu/Pascal and Steed's Sunderland played a more attractive and effecive brand of football than us.

Where do we go from here? We are going to continue to leak goals, Corluka or any other signing isn't going to fix this.

Testing times ahead after to much optimism.

Same old Spurs unless we:

* Stop playing players out of their position

* buy two Strikers

* buy a left winger

* buy a midfield General (or get Modic in the gym, to beef him up - a lot!)

* buy a center back

* buy a right back

* learn to defend, and play as a team.

Reply to Midnight Caller:

From the back of my limo heading south i review for you:

Spurs showed glimpses of the slick passing that I witnessed in Holland, but we seemed to be trying to switch and change a little too much and as such nobody had a defined position. Dos Santos who had been so effective in pre se...

Give it up mate!

Gomes - good!? How so!? Zoks/BAE - stop havin a laugh you twat!

This biggest mistake was to make Jenas vice captain for this season. The boy can barely motivate himself let alone ten other team mates. This decision also implies that he's going to play every game and I don't believe that he and Modric can play in the same team without someone (Hudd? O'Hara?) holding things together behind them, especially if we've got both fullbacks bombing forward. If Jenas is forward then it's up to Modric to sit back and deal with the likes of Essien and Gerrard counter-attacking and to be honest I don't fancy his chances. He should be using his obvious talents at the other end of the pitch.
No Bale, no Ledley, no Berb, no holding midfielder, no chance. A very lightweight and naive team selection from Ramos especially considering we were away from home and that our bench represented a more balanced team.
On the bright side, Keane looked shit.

Reply to jolsgonemental:

Our first mistake was to not put ledley out to pasture after the CC final. At least then we could stop deluding ourselves and get busy filling the huge gaping gap in our back line.

He couldnt even manage to get fit for the first game.

finished. move on, he is holding...

f*ckin spot on JGM.. best post of the day..

JGM to be Spurs manager by October..

A new season dawns, a whole bunch of new talented players but the same old problem. Us Spurs fans are a faithful, hopeful bunch. We always believe that the best is yest to come and yet again we cannot take points off of teams like Middlesbrough. I think that we have to accept that Bent has flattered to deceive during pre-season and cannot perform when it matters. Jenas has been missing longer that Steve Fossett (Genius idea to make him vice captain!). I have never been convinced of the merits of Zokora especially played out of position. My prediction is that we will probably ship less goals that last season now that we have replaced Robbo but the defensive frailities of old remain. The only difference being that come next week our only cutting edge up front will be Darren Bent. Give him a chance I hear you cry...£16 million wasted.

the thought of selling Berb and having to endure Bent all year makes me want to cry..

if Berb goes we're f*cked... maybe we're already f*cked..

i've been doing a lot of swearing since around 4.45 yesterday.. can't put my finger on it..

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

You fucking shitbags. I told you the other day you were fucking wank. Team of dwarves getting bullied.

Bullied I tells ya!

New season same spurs but I trust Ramos & Poyet but Jenas cannot play defensive midfield if we are not going to buy someone can't king play there he's played there for england. And please Bale to start as left back and dos santos on the left wing.

Plus I am so pissed off with the Berba situation can we please either sell him or keep him its not helping anyone.

3 F's:
Fickle: not constant or loyal in affections/ casually changeable
Furor: a general outburst of enthusiasm, excitement, or of fury, rage etc
Faith: confidence or trust in a person or thing

I'm embarrassed by some of the comments some have made above. Some of you are the reason why Spurs fans are called FICKLE. Unless your name is Mystic Meg, and can predict next weeks lottery numbers, stop predicting the future of this season and get back to reading your feckin pot noodles.

I agree with Kwakspur, this was a result that we needed in the first month of the season. A loss to an average Boro team that wanted it more than we did, and knew what their tactics were. Sometimes when you have alot of talent to hand, you've got so many options that you don't quite know how to apply it. It was obvious that Boro away was a bit of an experiment. Luckily failure is a better teacher than success, and we will be stronger because our lesson was in the first game.

JGM's 100% right. Preseason means nothing and it possibly made us think we are better than we are. We've still got 14 full days of the transfer window left and so a loss not only addresses our failings but clearly highlights our shortfalls whilst we can do something about them.

There have been several occurrences of FUROR recently. Excitement following CC win, after twatting Roma 5-0, but at the same time there is the anger and misery following the end of last season, and the loss to Boro yesterday. One of the magical things about the beautiful game is its ability to incite such extreme ranges of feelings. Be careful that you're in control of these, lest they end up controlling you.

As BillyG said, lots of us have kept saying "In Ramos we trust". How many of you really meant it/ still mean it? If you really are that fickle, fuck off and support Manure! If you really believed that this can be a great season, then keep the FAITH.

1 S:
Support: to undergo or endure, esp. with patience/ to serve as a foundation for

Reply to johnnyg:

grazza, dont care how good berba was, he dont wanna be there. we will be ok once we settle in.

I hope so mate, i've slept on it, i still dont know what to say.

Worried and hopeful as always!

It was nice to see Keane have a shocker on a bitter note...

Reply to Trembly:

3 F's:
Fickle: not constant or loyal in affections/ casually changeable
Furor: a general outburst of enthusiasm, excitement, or of fury, rage etc
Faith: confidence or trust in a person or thing

I'm embarrassed by some of the comments some have made above. Some of you...

Agree with a lot of what you say Trembly (& love the name by the way!)
My own thought is that last year showed we had some glaring weaknesses,
1. Goalkeeper
2. Defensively (Both as a team and individualy a back up for Ledders)
3. Lack of bite (aggression, someone to scare the opposition and who won't take losing lying down - i'm thinking Graham Roberts!)
4. Lack of on field leaders

The main strength being having four quality strikers and getting goals most games.

In terms of the weaknesses the only one of the above we've addressed is getting rid of Robbo (thank god did you see Arteta's goal!)
The main strength has gone in that we only have two strikers and one of those looks like he'll be off!
All the signings look good however and we look to have more creativity in midfield. We still look gash at the back and if Bent goes down injured and who's going to play upfront?
We don't scare anyone, don't look like we'll keep too many clean sheets wither!
Look at Arse and the scousers they were gash but kept a clean sheet and came away with three points.
I'm sure we'll get better as the team gel and like the look of J2S but I hope JR and DL have got a centre half lined up, a quality defensive midfielder and another forward (2 if berba goes). This is almost half a team still missing and without some serious additions we'll struggle to get 5th (very little chance of more I'm sad to say as things stand)

Same old Spurs!

I'm off to put a few quid on one of our old boys scoring the winner next week! its sod's law!!!!!!!

COYS

Don't worry boys, Boro always beat the top 4.........

what happens when Woodgate gets injured?

are we really after owen?

have we fucked up?

Have we got carried away with hollywood signings - buying style over substance again?

Im actually scared now.

weaker up front than last year, only one real CB option to speak of. Less bite in midfield.

shit. shit. shit.

mum....

Ginge1

Positive visualisation is the key. If we all truly believe, it will happen.. Ref game against Keano's boys (because there's only one Keano), I'd like Steeeeeeeeeeeeeed/or Teemu to score a late consolation goal but only after we're 5-0 up.

PS I reserve the right to go completely mental and smash the place up if:
1. We don't get sufficient cover/improvement for key positions (we all know what these are)
2. We are not able to get at least 35 points on the board by Christmas

Reply to twuntdawsonjenastwunt:

Deja Vu?

I feel like I've gone back 12 months in time.

New signings, attacking flair, millions spent investing in youth, same old GLARING problems exist.

We played with one defender yesterday.

Our back four (bar Woodgate) were absolutely...

DOnt over react, its 1 GAME!

Reply to jolsgonemental:

have we fucked up?

Have we got carried away with hollywood signings - buying style over substance again?

Im actually scared now.

weaker up front than last year, only one real CB option to speak of. Less bite in midfield.

shit. shit. shit....

The real worry is, that the main reason we've scored over 200 goals in the last 2 seasons is about to depart and we are left with our 4th choice striker from last year.

Darren Bent : One footed , poor in the air and poor first touch.




Nurse ?


Nurse ?


NURSE !

Reply to kwakspur:

Reply to twuntdawsonjenastwunt:

Deja Vu?

I feel like I've gone back 12 months in time.

New signings, attacking flair, millions spent investing in youth, same old GLARING problems exist.

We played with one defender yesterday.

Our back four (bar Woodgate) were absolutely...

DOnt over react, its 1 GAME!

It's not one game though is it? It's about 21 years! The last time we had a decent pair of fit centre backs (Gough & Mabbs) and apart from 12 months from Super Ed we've not had a decent defensive midfielder / hardman since about the same time (Roberts, before that? Mckay?)
So in answer to your comment 'its just one game', its not cos we've had the same problems year after year and we never have a decent defence and defences win titles simple as.

Trying to take some positives if in the next week we buy a quality CB, Hutton, Bale, Woody and King stay fit for most of the season, we sign a quality DM and two forwards (or 1 + sulky) we could get in the CL!

If we sign Owen I think we'll be known as Tottenham Oompaloompah. I don't think Ramos would even consider him.

I regard King as highly as any other fan, but this farce over his part-time ability to participate is wrecking the team. I'm not suggesting for one minute that he be escorted off the premises, but how can you criminally neglect the fulcrum of defence and initial distribution? It's kak.

We need a centre-back. He doesn't have to be a star. He just has to be competent and capable. He just has to be a rock, along with his partner, upon which our defence is based. No flair required. No fancy-dan. No romantic, Mills and Boon-sounding name. Just some geezer who is prepared to say, 'Oh no you don't', and take the necessary action if that's not enough.

I don't even know what King's ailment is, or what it's officially reported to be. It seems to have started in some primordial world beyond human memory. At this rate, by the time he's back to full fitness he'll be nearing retirement anyway. Yes, the man's a Rolls-Royce when he's fully operational and his chassis has been oiled. Yes, he's Tottenham through and through. But, shit, I'm Tottenham through and through. You lot are Tottenham through and through. I'm so Tottenham through and through that, if I were a hindrance to the cause, I'd say, "Look, guys, I'm holding you back - gone on without me." What's the deal? Why can't the club be straight with us? Something is at the core of this, and it has to be more than creaky knees.

Thinking about the match, I wonder if Ramos considered a loss acceptable, if it allowed him to experiment further with the side. But I can't see what more he could learn that pre-season hadn't already told him. Our midfield was so lightweight. Why not use Hudd, rather than Lennon? At least Hudd can pass consistently.

At any rate, we were always likely to come off second-best. Everyone's up for the first game of the season. I thought skill would win the day. Basic dermination did.

lennon + Modric + dos santos = 5'11, 70 kgs. They have skills but we need some heft as well.

It's ironic that, at a time when Spurs are potentially in a position to play a style of football that employs passing, movement and little dynamic triangles - a bit, dare I say, like that scum up the road - that selfsame scum up the road talks about compromising style in order to win matches.

Another campaign with nothing to show for it has forced their dirty little hand, has it? Maybe.

With delightful timing, Spurs now propose to start wearing the 'beautiful game' mantle and receive the plaudits of all and sundry. And win fcuk all?

I could live without a trophy this season, if we got fourth place. But I want both. And more.

Wow. Two comments numbered 230. Twilight zone.

I see that stinking pile of arrogant, smug excrement at Old Trafford didn't get the best start to their season either. Hoo-fcuking-ray.

It's not the end of their season, any more than it is ours. But I'm betting, relatively speaking, they'll be more disappointed than us at the end of the season.

Fcuk 'em. And fcuk the self-satisfied horse they ride into town on as well.

Reply to BruceCastle:

lennon + Modric + dos santos = 5'11, 70 kgs. They have skills but we need some heft as well.

Combined?

Slightly curious selection aside, I think we can all still see there's a lot of promise in the team. HH suggested the horse-trading will probably carry on in January too, so some handy pack animals are no doubt on the way

And in the meantime, as someone commented on the BBC today, hey, Manure only got 2 points out of their first 3 games last time out

(Think it's gonna be a bit rocky for a while, but when have we had it any other way? )

CrossWaddle - I'd take Rocky for a while.

As long as, like Mickey, Spurs can say, 'You're gonna eat lightnin' and you're gonna crap thunder!'

It's gonna come good.

Reply to CrossWaddle:

Reply to BruceCastle:

lennon + Modric + dos santos = 5'11, 70 kgs. They have skills but we need some heft as well.

Combined?

Slightly curious selection aside, I think we can all still see there's a lot of promise in the team. HH suggested the horse-trading will probably carry on in January too, so some handy pack animals are no doubt on the way

And in the meantime, as someone...

Wor Crossy, got a bit carried away with the smiley faces!

Ginge1 - I think CW was using the smileys to illustrate the typical positioning of our back four in an average match moment.

Quite accurate, I'd say.

Looking at our team we've only two strikers and three CB's with the first team (one of whom is gash, one of whom is always injured, the likes of Rocha doesn't count). What worries me is that we need these two gaps filling and I can see us siging a couple of players but I can't see us signing 3 players in two weeks with the amount of hassle involved with buying decent players (clubs not wanting to sell etc). As such I'm getting very worried the defensive midfielder is not going to come before 31st.

Reply to 9__37:

Ginge1 - I think CW was using the smileys to illustrate the typical positioning of our back four in an average match moment.

Quite accurate, I'd say.

Thre of em winking at us as is to say 'how the fcuk are we getting paid to play professional football' and Woody trying to put a brave face on it!

Reply to onedavemackay:

Reply to jolsgonemental:

have we fucked up?

Have we got carried away with hollywood signings - buying style over substance again?

Im actually scared now.

weaker up front than last year, only one real CB option to speak of. Less bite in midfield.

shit. shit. shit....

The real worry is, that the main reason we've scored over 200 goals in the last 2 seasons is about to depart and we are left with our 4th choice striker from last year.

Darren Bent : One footed , poor in the air and poor first touch.




Nurse ?
...

you bunch of wankers. cast your mind back to when he was banging em in a week ago. pre-season glory turns into EPL reality. get a life ya morons, its 1 game ffs. fickle fickle and more fickle. and the sooner berbatov is gone the fucking better. watch out sunderland.

Ginge1 - I'm getting worried, too, but you're forgetting that retailers typically stay open later on Thursdays nowadays. That's two full shopping-Thursdays and -Saturdays before the window closes.

But seriously, you wonder where the new recruits are going to come from, and how they'll gel. Against Boro, Teemu might've offered more bite than Lennon, but that's neither here nor there now. The first game is always going to be a hoop and fire, and you need players who are willing to get burnt.

Maybe Spurs Lodge has the same sanity draining effect as the Shining hotel?

You start off with sensible ideas and a decent plan and slowly degenerate into obsessing about sticking players in obscure and unfamiliar positions.

that's a bit silly Dannyboy.. if Berb plays against Sunderland we'll destrpy them.. it's a big IF though..

the sooner Jenas gets replaced the better..

"Poyet - We must learn"

Where have we heard this excuse before? Last Season under Jol! And he went on to be sacked!

If the ex-Spurs players come back to haunt us next week (i.e vs the Black Cats), big Questions will be asked, and if we do not win in the next 4 games we will be playing the sack game!

We must buy two strikers, a center back, and a right back.

PS Ramos must stop playing players out of position - any fool could do that, but I do not expect it from him!

Reply to Bimmi:

that's a bit silly Dannyboy.. if Berb plays against Sunderland we'll destrpy them.. it's a big IF though..

the sooner Jenas gets replaced the better..

Its simple. We cant sell Berbatov now.

A pissed of Berbatov is better than a strike force of Darren Bent and another season down the drain.

How Long is Hutton out for? Is Bale fit to start our next game? Will Bentley start on the right? Are we signing Arshavin? Can Bent perform in the league for us? Will we sign another striker, DM or CB???
Is Juande overrated??? I think no, but who can question those who may start to doubt. Under no circumstances should Zokora be RB, or Bentley on the left, so whats going on???

Reply to Bimmi:

that's a bit silly Dannyboy.. if Berb plays against Sunderland we'll destrpy them.. it's a big IF though..

the sooner Jenas gets replaced the better..

Silly? do you really want a miserable fucker like that in the team only to leave in January? you really have your tongue up berbatovs arse huh? if we can beat roma, we can beat anyone. it was a rude awakening to the EPL for the new signings, no more no less.
give em a couple of games to gel in the games that matter and see the difference. ramos will obviously buy another striker ya knob, berbatov is gone and bent cant do it all himself. my only criticism of ramos is playing players out of position and leaving our 1st choice on the bench! whats that all about? why o why didnt he play the same team as last sunday?? why play bentley on the left? why play zokora right back when guntner is on the bench? why not play bale? been here before i think.

coys

Reply to 1981_Spurs:

"Poyet - We must learn"

Where have we heard this excuse before? Last Season under Jol! And he went on to be sacked!

If the ex-Spurs players come back to haunt us next week (i.e vs the Black Cats), big Questions will be asked, and if we do not win in the next 4 games we...

1981 don't start dissing Gus. He's giving an interview to the press - what do you expect him to say "Yeh we screwed up big time"?

This season, last season and the past 21 years are completely different. The great thing about supporting a club that has such heritage is that you can reflect on triumphs past and and bask in memories of Glory. What some people seem to prefer to do is dwell on past losses and their failure to temper their unbridled expectations with a dose of reality. There seems to be an epidemic of sorts running wild where everyone wants everything now - fuck whether its realistic, fuck whether its affordable, fuck the mortgage: I want a new car, I want a 60" LCD, I want Villa in for £35m. Building a new team is a process, your expectations seem to be that its should gel instantly and be the finished product for the first match. Get real!

We're still in the market for players, and we'll probably be in the January market as well, so hopefully some big asks will be granted within the next two weeks. If not, it won't be for a lack of trying and we won't have blown all our kitty on nearly-men when the ones we wanted aren't available.

With regards to Ramos' tactics and line up: Go and win 2 UEFA cups in a row, and challenge Real and Barca with a fifth of the budget and then I might listen to you. Till then STFU and bear in mind that perhaps in his mind, this tactically was the best starting line up. Some things may have worked in training, that didn't on the day. We saw a few times that some of the boys were having off days, and perhaps our General was contriving something so special that the players couldn't quite understand. Its the first time in a real Premier League game for some and so lessons will have been learned. Expect a different game, line up and strategy for each opposition. Just because its not a simple 442 - try and keep up will you? We're dealing with a connoisseur that serves you a glass of vintage, and you ask for a feckin pint of beer!

Reply to Trembly:

Reply to 1981_Spurs:

"Poyet - We must learn"

Where have we heard this excuse before? Last Season under Jol! And he went on to be sacked!

If the ex-Spurs players come back to haunt us next week (i.e vs the Black Cats), big Questions will be asked, and if we do not win in the next 4 games we...

1981 don't start dissing Gus. He's giving an interview to the press - what do you expect him to say "Yeh we screwed up big time"?

This season, last season and the past 21 years are completely different. The great thing about supporting a club that has such heritage is that you can...

Expect nothing this season - we look:

* weak,

* On the verge of selling Berb, already sold
Keane. i.e 60 goals. Bent is just not good enough! So where arew the goals coming from?

* players out of position

* no like for like subs

* no grit, too many dandys!!

* Dawson on his arse, as we conced a goal!

Wake up!!!

Reply to 1981_Spurs:

Reply to Trembly:

Reply to 1981_Spurs:

"Poyet - We must learn"

Where have we heard this excuse before? Last Season under Jol! And he went on to be sacked!

If the ex-Spurs players come back to haunt us next week (i.e vs the Black Cats), big Questions will be asked, and if we do not win in the next 4 games we...

1981 don't start dissing Gus. He's giving an interview to the press - what do you expect him to say "Yeh we screwed up big time"?

This season, last season and the past 21 years are completely different. The great thing about supporting a club that has such heritage is that you can...

Expect nothing this season - we look:

* weak,

* On the verge of selling Berb, already sold
Keane. i.e 60 goals. Bent is just not good enough! So where arew the goals coming from?

* players out of position

* no like for like subs...

How many times do people need to be told? This is a marathon not a sprint, 1 game does not make a season.

Do you honestly believe that you're the only one that has noticed some deficiencies? Can you be so naive to imagine that any/all of your points have not been considered by people more experienced in the game than you or I?

I'm wide awake, but I'll let you carry on in the nightmare of your own imagination.

1981 just realised who you remind me of from the opening line of your response

"Expect nothing this season"

Know who I'm thinking of? Pascal Chimbonda at the Carling Cup Final. Didn't expect to win, didn't want to support the team, but more than happy to join in the celebrations when people with more belief and determination won the cup. FICKLE are we? Yes, I think so.