Wednesday, 03 September 08, 09:23 AM · Comments (262)

Well, I did my best to keep it a little more upbeat today but this surely has to be the last of the window blues. There can't be any more naff news.
THFC or rather Executive Director Paul Barber has been busy replying to emails various from Tottenham fans everywhere it seems.
Mine just arrived and I understand others got the same.
We have signed Frazier Campbell on a 12 month loan deal. We do not have a specific option to buy him at the end of the loan period.
We all need to remember that we also make loan arrangements with other clubs for our players fully expecting a promising young player to return to White Hart Lane.
So there you have it. Having viewed some You Tube footage he looks the part, but ait must be said all against pretty poor opposition. Now this.
I think we have to focus on the good that was done this window and move on from our car crash dealings with Manchester United.
he could turn out to be great, but do you think he'd want to go back to utd and try and get in the 1st team ahead of tevez, rooney and bernatov?
Who cares if he's going back to them, he'll have something to prove with us and in reality he's third choice in what will probably be a side playing one up front. Appreciate he'll be 2nd choice for UEFA cup but so what. We could have kept Peckhart but FC has been on loan in the championship and can prove he's good enough at that level. Peckhart ain't! Hopefully he'll get more minutes on the pitch at Saints than he would have done for us, prove he's a player and replace FC when he comes back. judging by what's been said it seems likely another striker will come in Jan so FC will then be fourth choice. I think we made the best of a bit of a balls up, for all we know JKH was all but done only to pull at the last minute, who can be blamed for that? i know, I know we should have sorted it earlier but I'm afraid the real world doesn't work like that all the time and if we were screwed at the last minute FC seems a decent backup striker in the meantime.
BIOYSOC! (my new sign off!)
hopefully we will actually buy someone who dosnt look good against crap opposition on you tube come Jan and send him packing.... now we are paying Manures wage bill FFS !
also no doubt a spy in our camp who knows what info red nose will be getting out of him for the next tapping up session... sorry bitter twisted and all that but this one really f#cks me off
Can we all just cheer up please?
Do I need to remind everyone we support the best team in the land, nay, the world?
Apparently so:
National records:
The first team to win the 'Double' of the FA Cup and Top Flight Championship in the 20th Century (1960-1961)
Most consecutive League victories from start of a top flight season: 11, (1960)
Most victories in a League season (31 out of 42 games in (1960-1961)
Most points in Division 2 season (2 points for a win): 70 (1919-20)
The only team to have won the FA Cup (1901) whilst being a non-league club
The first British team to win a European title European Cup Winners Cup (1963).
The first team to win the League Cup at the New Wembley (2007-0
Fastest ever Premier League goal scored - after 9.7 seconds by Ledley King against Bradford City in 2000
British record of eight consecutive victories in major European competition
European records
The first ever team to win the UEFA Cup (1972)
for all you source-monkeys out there, yes I c&p's this from Wikipedia for speed.
BE PROUD OF YOUR CLUB PEOPLE
COME ON YOU SPURS!!
Reply to BIGYID:
he could turn out to be great, but do you think he'd want to go back to utd and try and get in the 1st team ahead of tevez, rooney and bernatov?
Even if he does stay on, it's a lose/lose situation.
If he stays and is crap, we ship him off.
If he stays and is good enough to lodge an offer, he'll be x times more expensive than he is now because his performances this season will have affected his value.
I said it before but here with a few less swear words. What can Campbell give us that young pekhart or barcham can't give us? Why sell a player to utd and then agree to blood their youngsters at the same time. MENTAL. We should feed him on a diet of booze, fags, and kebabs and send him back a year or six short of fitness.
Secondly, whilst I envy your getting that level of personal service from the Spurs board. Does the fact he's bothering not suggest a modicum of guilt for what has transpired?
can you reply to him:
So do Man Utd loan Pekhart off us for a year for experience and development? Or are we developing their player for them?
Are we officially their feeder club now?
Fresh from the delightful back and forth on the previous thread, i've been inspired to get meself a brand spanking new profile, makin me all official like.
Right, let's start going militant with some opinions.
Erm... Leave the kid on the bench unless an emergency arises. Maybe the deal was £25m after all, assuming that if he plays, we'll add £5m to the boys value by the time we give him back. I thought we'd had the last laugh. Not so it would appear.
It's all about the positives, much better 'squad' than this time last year.
yes that is a joke, how are we expected to get excited by a player who is not ours and no matter how well he does, never will be?
poor piece of last minute business
keep seeing the same sign off - what does BIOYSOC stand for please?
also who is JKH striker we were in for?
finally, which club is likely to be the next man city? probably a sleeping giant, preferably in london, on a sound financial footing.........know anyone??
patience please people - we will have the last laugh!!
COYS
Reply to hartlane2000:
hopefully we will actually buy someone who dosnt look good against crap opposition on you tube come Jan and send him packing.... now we are paying Manures wage bill FFS !
also no doubt a spy in our camp who knows what info red nose will be getting out of him for the next tapping up session......
He's just come through their youth system so he'll be earning cock all (in football terms) and would cost less than most even as 3rd choice. I bet even Rasiak was on more money! 9 months or so wages isn't going to be a problem.
As I've mentioned I reckon he'll get fewer minutes than Peck will so who cares.
continuing in a negative vain about on loan strikers who remebers our last loanee striker from up North the roaring success that was .....
I am still stunned that the newspapers are not making more of the Berbatov kidnap. If Woodward and Bernstein could bring down Nixon, surely the tenacity of the Spurs Blogland can keep on this story until such time as ManUre are deducted points and Fergie and Gill are jailed for perjury. Apart from Dorothy Boyd and flipper the goldfish, who's with me?
I think we should break his leg in a training ground accident that no one will see and then cancel his loan, after he has scored a few goals for us and we have bought a new striker of course.
Unless of course the boy Campbell sees that there is something other than the Dark side and leaves us at the end of the season to join Leyton Orient.
Reply to TheSchoolboy:
I said it before but here with a few less swear words. What can Campbell give us that young pekhart or barcham can't give us? Why sell a player to utd and then agree to blood their youngsters at the same time. MENTAL. We should feed him on a diet of booze, fags, and kebabs and send him back a year...
Campbell dropped down to the championship and looked very good (Hull offered £7m for him!). Pecker hasn't done it even at this level and would be a bigger gamble, he'll get his chance at Saints this year. Barcham - I doubt he'll ever be good enough even at Championship level.
Blood their youngsters, we needed someone and he'll be a back up!
Secondly yes, I think they are as gutted as we are that another striker didn't come in and I think admitting it only proves as much.
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to BIGYID:he could turn out to be great, but do you think he'd want to go back to utd and try and get in the 1st team ahead of tevez, rooney and bernatov?
Even if he does stay on, it's a lose/lose situation.
If he stays and is crap, we ship him off.
If he stays and is good enough to lodge an offer, he'll be x times more expensive than he is now because his performances this season will have affected his value.
so what! he's a stop gap who'll only play when needed. We don't want him after Jan (hopefully) or at worst Summer as we'll (hopefully be signing a top notch striker or Pecker turns out to be sh1t hot for saints and we have him back.
How are Spurs a feeder club, it's ridiculous the claims people come up with.
Now West Ham are a feeder club people look at the talent they have lost over the years.
Reply to Peter Ridsdale:
I am still stunned that the newspapers are not making more of the Berbatov kidnap. If Woodward and Bernstein could bring down Nixon, surely the tenacity of the Spurs Blogland can keep on this story until such time as ManUre are deducted points and Fergie and Gill are jailed for perjury. Apart from...
Count me in. I ran with kidnapping line minutes before the hush money/beads & mirrors were accepted.
Trouble is Peter, the only course of action on a blog is an online petition and only thing that generates in force is apathy and would you believe it daft comments.
so how is it that Hull/Wigan were all set to sign him for £7M (which i'm assuming is not a loan fee) but we could only get him on loan...
I just think it's gonna be a stop gap for emergencies until Jan, when probably Arshavin and A N other will be signed...
Reply to bob rodney:
so how is it that Hull/Wigan were all set to sign him for £7M (which i'm assuming is not a loan fee) but we could only get him on loan...
I just think it's gonna be a stop gap for emergencies until Jan, when probably Arshavin and A N other will be signed...
Yup, my thoughts, we don't want him long term. I think we got screwed at the last minute on another striker (JKH?) and basically tried to get a 3rd striker in. Luckily Heskey, Cole, Doyle etc didn't happen. I think we said Berba can't go as we've only 2 strikers to which they said you can borrow FC for the year. We get rid of Berba and do not have as big a hole up front as we would have. Come Jan we try again to get a top notch front man (although it's not easy especially as Citeh will be chucking money about as well as Chavski who'll be p*ssed cos of Robinho).
BIOYSOC!
Reply to jack123:
keep seeing the same sign off - what does BIOYSOC stand for please?
also who is JKH striker we were in for?
finally, which club is likely to be the next man city? probably a sleeping giant, preferably in london, on a sound financial footing.........know anyone??
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Bring It On You Spurs Odious C*nts!
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to Peter Ridsdale:I am still stunned that the newspapers are not making more of the Berbatov kidnap. If Woodward and Bernstein could bring down Nixon, surely the tenacity of the Spurs Blogland can keep on this story until such time as ManUre are deducted points and Fergie and Gill are jailed for perjury. Apart from...
Count me in. I ran with kidnapping line minutes before the hush money/beads & mirrors were accepted.
Trouble is Peter, the only course of action on a blog is an online petition and only thing that generates in force is apathy and would you believe it daft comments.
Harold,
including you, me, and my Mum, we have 3 signatures already. As we speak, I have my lawyers researching the Premier League rulebook to determine if they can take action over a kidnapping even if a member club does not complain. If they can, expect the Fraud Squad over at Scudamore's office by the end of the week.
Arshavin in January is gonna be knackered. He'll be ripe for a rest, not the PL. His and our moment has passed.
Reply to 9__37:
Arshavin in January is gonna be knackered. He'll be ripe for a rest, not the PL. His and our moment has passed.
Maybe, although if we're doing ok and FC is half decent we may be able to buy him and ease him in for the odd game let him rest up through summer then next season bingo. Only problem is he's not getting any younger 27/28?
Reply to Peter Ridsdale:
Reply to HarryHotspur:Reply to Peter Ridsdale:I am still stunned that the newspapers are not making more of the Berbatov kidnap. If Woodward and Bernstein could bring down Nixon, surely the tenacity of the Spurs Blogland can keep on this story until such time as ManUre are deducted points and Fergie and Gill are jailed for perjury. Apart from...
Count me in. I ran with kidnapping line minutes before the hush money/beads & mirrors were accepted.
Trouble is Peter, the only course of action on a blog is an online petition and only thing that generates in force is apathy and would you believe it daft comments.Harold,
including you, me, and my Mum, we have 3 signatures already. As we speak, I have my lawyers researching the Premier League rulebook to determine if they can take action over a kidnapping even if a member club does not complain. If they can, expect the Fraud Squad over at...
I'll sign it!
Reply to Peter Ridsdale:
Reply to HarryHotspur:Reply to Peter Ridsdale:I am still stunned that the newspapers are not making more of the Berbatov kidnap. If Woodward and Bernstein could bring down Nixon, surely the tenacity of the Spurs Blogland can keep on this story until such time as ManUre are deducted points and Fergie and Gill are jailed for perjury. Apart from...
Count me in. I ran with kidnapping line minutes before the hush money/beads & mirrors were accepted.
Trouble is Peter, the only course of action on a blog is an online petition and only thing that generates in force is apathy and would you believe it daft comments.Harold,
including you, me, and my Mum, we have 3 signatures already. As we speak, I have my lawyers researching the Premier League rulebook to determine if they can take action over a kidnapping even if a member club does not complain. If they can, expect the Fraud Squad over at...
Send in The Sweeney.
'Put your trousers on Scudamore, you're nicked.'
Reply to 9__37:
Arshavin in January is gonna be knackered. He'll be ripe for a rest, not the PL. His and our moment has passed.
Spot on, Whilst thoughts of any class of 'agreement' for the next window with ZSP are fantasy - if there were one it ought be that he only plays as many games as King does.
Na, he'd have muscle wastage if that was the case, we at least need him match-fit.
Can anyone shed any light on if we are still able to sign any players on loan or get anyone in on a free transfer now the window has closed? Obviously we can’t buy anyone but maybe there is someone out there with European experience who isn’t cup tied that we could try to bring in...
Oh and by the way... Love the site, love the read and don’t really give a monkeys where the 'ITK' comes from. Poetic License i think its called and this site has it.
Manure are the darlings of the Media. No one can get past the plane-clash, the Busby Babes, Bobby Charlton, George Best. Move over, please! It's romanticised, sentimentalised twaddle.
Powerful men have powerful associates. The New World Order reaches its tentacled arms all over the globe. Football is big business and getting bigger. Where the swill is the swine will eat. And they'll protect their trough, too. Quid pro quo. Gobble, gobble, gobble.
Reply to JuandeChampions:
Can anyone shed any light on if we are still able to sign any players on loan or get anyone in on a free transfer now the window has closed? Obviously we can’t buy anyone but maybe there is someone out there with European experience who isn’t cup tied that we could try to bring in...
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was thinking about that myself not sure what the answer is but best guess is yes as we are looking to loan KPB to Brum according to reports .. maybe Stalteri and the other forgottens will follow
however refering to my previous post re our last loanee from up norf success dont hold your breath on what me may end up with ....
If you are talking about Mido, who has moved up north, then I wouls say he was a great success.
If you are talking about Andy Booth, well, what can I say?
Premier league clubs cannot loan in, but are allowed to loan out. Free agent signings are ok, so there is Appiah still available if we want him, i seem to remember that
But ENIC are pretty powerful, too. In fact, I'd hazard a guess that Joe Lewis has some very powerful friends indeed.
Reply to 9__37:
But ENIC are pretty powerful, too. In fact, I'd hazard a guess that Joe Lewis has some very powerful friends indeed.
JGM was pivotal in Jol's departure. Maybe he's a Templar?
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Reply to 9__37:
Manure are the darlings of the Media. No one can get past the plane-clash, the Busby Babes, Bobby Charlton, George Best. Move over, please! It's romanticised, sentimentalised twaddle.
Powerful men have powerful associates. The New World Order reaches its tentacled arms all over the...
Bilderberg Group Territory
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And you're right.
JASPERWATCH
"I can catergorically state that we have agreement in deal to sign him permanently if we impressed. They can't change on that, and that was ironed out and tied into loan contract 100%, FACT!!!"
Barber Out!
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to 9__37:But ENIC are pretty powerful, too. In fact, I'd hazard a guess that Joe Lewis has some very powerful friends indeed.
JGM was pivotal in Jol's departure. Maybe he's a Templar?
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I think you may be on to something there, H. Some will tell you that the plans for the new White Hart Lane are based on Herod's Temple.
Reply to spurs insider:
If you are talking about Mido, who has moved up north, then I wouls say he was a great success.
If you are talking about Andy Booth, well, what can I say?
I can say without doubt the worst player to ever pull on a Spurs (& I include any fans wearing the shirt for a kick about in the park!)
Reply to jack123:
keep seeing the same sign off - what does BIOYSOC stand for please?
also who is JKH striker we were in for?
finally, which club is likely to be the next man city? probably a sleeping giant, preferably in london, on a sound financial footing.........know anyone??
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It was Jan Klass Huntelaar mate,
Im just deeply saddened by this whole saga not having at least an option to him just makes it even worse,
Im holding on to what little hope i can that we've got at least 1 decent agreement with someone for a January transfer that goes through January first and that's all we do in that window, would really prefer it to be JKH over AA as he's gonna be completly shot and useless for a good couple of weeks.
I have to agree with the earlier comment about guilt from the board, ive never heard of them answering emails before with personal comments.
At the risk of someone on spurs odious being in some way related to the Mamas and Papas or someone who owns the royalties I have constructed a song (to the tune of Monday Monday by the Mamas and Papas):
Juande Jaunde, so good to me,
Juande Ramos, you were all I hoped you would be
Oh Monday morning, Monday morning couldn't guarantee
That Monday evening you would still be here with Dimi.
Monday Monday, can't trust that day,
Juande Juande, sometimes it just turns out that way
Oh Monday morning, you gave me no warning of what was to be
Oh Monday Monday, how could you sell and not replace dimi.
It's the best I could do. Crap but it'll do.... bit like our striker policy....
Excellent work hartlane2000! Does this mean we can all make public the secret hope of landing a player(or two) on loan..hmmm....
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to 9__37:Arshavin in January is gonna be knackered. He'll be ripe for a rest, not the PL. His and our moment has passed.
Spot on, Whilst thoughts of any class of 'agreement' for the next window with ZSP are fantasy - if there were one it ought be that he only plays as many games as King does.
Hopefully we wont get caught out for the umpteenth window in a row in January.
The club should be negociating now with whoever (agree not Arshavin), to come in on Jan 1st 2009. We could agree a fee, even pay some up front for whoever we want, with an injury clause for money to be returned if that happens.
OK, some of our supposed targets may have gone elsewhere, but we cant afford to get caught again. Ramos & Comolli must have a shortlist.
Reply to poyetothepeople:
Excellent work hartlane2000! Does this mean we can all make public the secret hope of landing a player(or two) on loan..hmmm....
Hope so.
At the very least it means the ITKs can find 'gainful' employment raising our hopes again, only to dash them later with a cyber-shrug of the shoulders and a professorial 'Anything can happen' caveat.
LINK - Seen this?
HH I want this man's head on a stick... preferably a sh*tty one.
Reply to esspee:
Can we all just cheer up please?
Do I need to remind everyone we support the best team in the land, nay, the world?
Apparently so:
National records:
The first team to win the 'Double' of the FA Cup and Top Flight Championship in the 20th Century...
Well said, Here Here! I look forward to that list getting longer, my friends!
Reply to jimbo yiddo:
Reply to esspee:Can we all just cheer up please?
Do I need to remind everyone we support the best team in the land, nay, the world?
Apparently so:
National records:
The first team to win the 'Double' of the FA Cup and Top Flight Championship in the 20th Century...Well said, Here Here! I look forward to that list getting longer, my friends!
Perversely, I actually find that list quite depressing.
Reply to HenryPercy:
LINK - Seen this?
HH I want this man's head on a stick... preferably a sh*tty one.
I have a bizarre image in my mind...It's the rat infested middle ages and outside a ramshackle stadium and little DC heads wearing jester hats on a sticks are being sold outside by street urchins.
Shortly before the fire is lit.
Having said that it's actually 2008 and he's on in excess of a million nicker a year and rarely experiences rooms or cars that aren't air conditioned.
Reply to 9__37:
Reply to HenryPercy:Your parameters are invalid
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Does John Birt work for You Tube now?
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to HenryPercy:I meant the writer..... we could get two for the price of one....
Both can BOGOF!
Reply to fatfish:
Reply to HarryHotspur:Reply to 9__37:Arshavin in January is gonna be knackered. He'll be ripe for a rest, not the PL. His and our moment has passed.
Spot on, Whilst thoughts of any class of 'agreement' for the next window with ZSP are fantasy - if there were one it ought be that he only plays as many games as King does.
Hopefully we wont get caught out for the umpteenth window in a row in January.
The club should be negociating now with whoever (agree not Arshavin), to come in on Jan 1st 2009. We could agree a fee, even pay some up front for whoever we want, with an injury clause for money to be...
People! its not that easy, if it was we'd have the players in already. Its not 'getting caught out!' There is only a finite number of good players we want if we can't get them what do we do? just buy anyone? Do you not think the board / Levy haven't got Spurs best interests at heart. If they can get a deal done they will.
another jasperspasm of shite today then.
i really fucking hate that lying little gimp.
give it up you cock. you ar egetting more ridiculous by the hour.
At this rate not even the incredibly gullibly Mr Paul 'Huntelaar and Veloso also being signed after the Russians' Smith will have trouble believing him.
Ginge1 with all due respect mate there are players out there who we could have signed, Arshavni a terrible example but also others mentioned(over and over again)on these pages: Thiago Neves on the left, Kompany, Falcao, Palacio and a few others.
My point is that positive thinking is perfect but sometimes you must admit when you've made a balls-up...and this is one of those occassions/ Perhaps a combination of Levy's hard-nosed negotiations or Commolli's incompetence.
Either way we got f*cked over bad this window...so now all we can hope for is for The Dazzler and Pavlyuchenko to rip it up in the Prem this year(dont care much for Campbell but goals are goals and I may change my mind if he's a talent!)
By the way Harry that Gunter interview that you lifted from SO had the desired effect of galvanising my spirits(partly my inner shop-lifter I suspect!). It's incredible always to hear from the inside - where all hype is left to us fans and the business of FOOTBALL(not profit)and The Team is fundamental.
Reply to Ginge1:
Reply to fatfish:Reply to HarryHotspur:Reply to 9__37:Arshavin in January is gonna be knackered. He'll be ripe for a rest, not the PL. His and our moment has passed.
Spot on, Whilst thoughts of any class of 'agreement' for the next window with ZSP are fantasy - if there were one it ought be that he only plays as many games as King does.
Hopefully we wont get caught out for the umpteenth window in a row in January.
The club should be negociating now with whoever (agree not Arshavin), to come in on Jan 1st 2009. We could agree a fee, even pay some up front for whoever we want, with an injury clause for money to be...People! its not that easy, if it was we'd have the players in already. Its not 'getting caught out!' There is only a finite number of good players we want if we can't get them what do we do? just buy anyone? Do you not think the board / Levy haven't got Spurs best interests at heart. If they can get...
Ginge1, what i'm trying to say, probably not very clearly, is that I want to see more deals that have the timing of Modric about them (i.e. announced before the window is open) rather than those with the desperation of Andy Booth & Rasiak.
Also, why do we sell at the last possible moment, e.g. Defoe & Berbatov. I dont think it's healthy to do that unless the player is totally not wanted, such as an underused squad player.
Reply to poyetothepeople:
Ginge1 with all due respect mate there are players out there who we could have signed, Arshavni a terrible example but also others mentioned(over and over again)on these pages: Thiago Neves on the left, Kompany, Falcao, Palacio and a few others.
My point is that positive thinking is...
How do you know Ramos said, thanks but no thanks? Or we get agreement for Hunts who was Wendy's first choice. Last min it falls through what do you do then?
Its not easy!
Reply to poyetothepeople:
Ginge1 with all due respect mate there are players out there who we could have signed, Arshavni a terrible example but also others mentioned(over and over again)on these pages: Thiago Neves on the left, Kompany, Falcao, Palacio and a few others.
My point is that positive thinking is...
How did we get fucked over? By the sound of it we only missed out on a striker, I know most of us would like a DM but again did Wendy want this. Being one player short of what we need and getting top dollar for two players who wanted out how is this getting f*cked over?
Have any of you negotiated for anything, ever? (apart from at a market stall on on holiday!)
Reply to fatfish:
Reply to Ginge1:Reply to fatfish:Reply to HarryHotspur:Reply to 9__37:Arshavin in January is gonna be knackered. He'll be ripe for a rest, not the PL. His and our moment has passed.
Spot on, Whilst thoughts of any class of 'agreement' for the next window with ZSP are fantasy - if there were one it ought be that he only plays as many games as King does.
Hopefully we wont get caught out for the umpteenth window in a row in January.
The club should be negociating now with whoever (agree not Arshavin), to come in on Jan 1st 2009. We could agree a fee, even pay some up front for whoever we want, with an injury clause for money to be...People! its not that easy, if it was we'd have the players in already. Its not 'getting caught out!' There is only a finite number of good players we want if we can't get them what do we do? just buy anyone? Do you not think the board / Levy haven't got Spurs best interests at heart. If they can get...
Ginge1, what i'm trying to say, probably not very clearly, is that I want to see more deals that have the timing of Modric about them (i.e. announced before the window is open) rather than those with the desperation of Andy Booth & Rasiak.
Also, why do we sell at the last possible...
Because if we'd have sold Berba any earlier we'd have got about £10m less! Its called good negotiating!
In an ideal world we'd have signed all our players prior to pre season training, this is what Wendy stated in the summer, surely this means that was what we were trying to do.
its not Championship manager, there are 3rd parties out there who don't have our best interest at heart (don't say Levy!)
What did he get for his distinguished service with us?
LINK
Reply to Ginge1:
Reply to fatfish:Reply to Ginge1:Reply to fatfish:Reply to HarryHotspur:Reply to 9__37:Arshavin in January is gonna be knackered. He'll be ripe for a rest, not the PL. His and our moment has passed.
Spot on, Whilst thoughts of any class of 'agreement' for the next window with ZSP are fantasy - if there were one it ought be that he only plays as many games as King does.
Hopefully we wont get caught out for the umpteenth window in a row in January.
The club should be negociating now with whoever (agree not Arshavin), to come in on Jan 1st 2009. We could agree a fee, even pay some up front for whoever we want, with an injury clause for money to be...People! its not that easy, if it was we'd have the players in already. Its not 'getting caught out!' There is only a finite number of good players we want if we can't get them what do we do? just buy anyone? Do you not think the board / Levy haven't got Spurs best interests at heart. If they can get...
Ginge1, what i'm trying to say, probably not very clearly, is that I want to see more deals that have the timing of Modric about them (i.e. announced before the window is open) rather than those with the desperation of Andy Booth & Rasiak.
Also, why do we sell at the last possible...Because if we'd have sold Berba any earlier we'd have got about £10m less! Its called good negotiating!
In an ideal world we'd have signed all our players prior to pre season training, this is what Wendy stated in the summer, surely this means that was what we were trying to do.
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Sorry but the art of good negotiation skills is a win / win situation. We did not end up with a win with the last minute Berbatov deal.
With all due respect to Fraizer Campbell & the extra £10m in the clubs coffers, neither are a win.
Jasperwatch:
Jasper seems to be quite a clairvoyant - the details of his post:
who Jasper
date 3/08/08
time 14:35
site SO
He knew about the Fraizer loan a month ago and said nothing!
...And a bloke called Gill at Manure seems to disagree with Jasper about the loan deal - now who is the more ITK?
None of us know what happened for sure but outside of the Man Utd 'kidnapping' THFC had months to sort this out and they were either subject to incompetence or bad luck or worse still ... a bit of both.
Like I said previously, not Levy's finest hour but he will know that and moreover be acutely aware that pointing at others won't wash.
Bent, bizarrely I really do feel could go nutrs in the UEFA. He was superb against just about everyone in the preseason and that's the quality that awaits him.
Frazier/Fraser/Fraiser is an irrelevance. A stick to beat the board with but not worth fretting over.
Crazy Paving will be an absolute f*cking menace. I'm convinced we need an Arshavin type player in front of Modders, but in the interim we'll just have to throw more midfielders - Gentley and Two Saints at them.
Blimey.
Reply to fatfish:
Reply to Ginge1:Reply to fatfish:Reply to Ginge1:Reply to fatfish:Reply to HarryHotspur:Reply to 9__37:Arshavin in January is gonna be knackered. He'll be ripe for a rest, not the PL. His and our moment has passed.
Spot on, Whilst thoughts of any class of 'agreement' for the next window with ZSP are fantasy - if there were one it ought be that he only plays as many games as King does.
Hopefully we wont get caught out for the umpteenth window in a row in January.
The club should be negociating now with whoever (agree not Arshavin), to come in on Jan 1st 2009. We could agree a fee, even pay some up front for whoever we want, with an injury clause for money to be...People! its not that easy, if it was we'd have the players in already. Its not 'getting caught out!' There is only a finite number of good players we want if we can't get them what do we do? just buy anyone? Do you not think the board / Levy haven't got Spurs best interests at heart. If they can get...
Ginge1, what i'm trying to say, probably not very clearly, is that I want to see more deals that have the timing of Modric about them (i.e. announced before the window is open) rather than those with the desperation of Andy Booth & Rasiak.
Also, why do we sell at the last possible...Because if we'd have sold Berba any earlier we'd have got about £10m less! Its called good negotiating!
In an ideal world we'd have signed all our players prior to pre season training, this is what Wendy stated in the summer, surely this means that was what we were trying to do.
...Sorry but the art of good negotiation skills is a win / win situation. We did not end up with a win with the last minute Berbatov deal.
With all due respect to Fraizer Campbell & the extra £10m in the clubs coffers, neither are a win.
So what happens if we sell Berba for £24m, Fergie thinks were soft and we still can't get Hunts, AA etc.... we're in the same position come deadline day, £10m less in our pockets and no FC. In that situation we end up with a Rasiak or Booth!
£10m is not to be sniffed at boys most of our signings this summer cost less than this! If we could have brought a striker in earlier i'm sure we would have. None of us have any knowledge of how these things work fully.
I've been sat in a solicitors office at midnight trying to sort a deal out with a customer, his lawyers etc for millions of £ only for it to fall through at the last minute. The deal was cast iron and took ages and screwed my target for the year. If I could of made it work I would, if I could have done it earlier I would. Not the same as football but the point is some things you have no control over and all the skilled negotiation in the world won't always work.
This transfer window has told me one thing, Levy is not to be F*cked with, remember Fergie was never going to pay over £24m. Do you think he'll be keen to deal with us again. We've pulled his pants down twice over fees (although he's had our best players but that is out of our hands!)
Reply to HarryHotspur:
None of us know what happened for sure but outside of the Man Utd 'kidnapping' THFC had months to sort this out and they were either subject to incompetence or bad luck or worse still ... a bit of both.
Like I said previously, not Levy's finest hour but he will know that and moreover...
Agree, and I think Levy & Co are gutted with how it panned out. Agree with the AA type as well. just think guys if Hunts would have signed at mid-night what would the overall thoughts on the transfer window be? One bit of bad luck and its all doom and gloom!
Reply to Ginge1:
Reply to fatfish:Reply to Ginge1:Reply to fatfish:Reply to Ginge1:Reply to fatfish:Reply to HarryHotspur:Spot on, Whilst thoughts of any class of 'agreement' for the next window with ZSP are fantasy - if there were one it ought be that he only plays as many games as King does.
Hopefully we wont get caught out for the umpteenth window in a row in January.
The club should be negociating now with whoever (agree not Arshavin), to come in on Jan 1st 2009. We could agree a fee, even pay some up front for whoever we want, with an injury clause for money to be...People! its not that easy, if it was we'd have the players in already. Its not 'getting caught out!' There is only a finite number of good players we want if we can't get them what do we do? just buy anyone? Do you not think the board / Levy haven't got Spurs best interests at heart. If they can get...
Ginge1, what i'm trying to say, probably not very clearly, is that I want to see more deals that have the timing of Modric about them (i.e. announced before the window is open) rather than those with the desperation of Andy Booth & Rasiak.
Also, why do we sell at the last possible...Because if we'd have sold Berba any earlier we'd have got about £10m less! Its called good negotiating!
In an ideal world we'd have signed all our players prior to pre season training, this is what Wendy stated in the summer, surely this means that was what we were trying to do.
...Sorry but the art of good negotiation skills is a win / win situation. We did not end up with a win with the last minute Berbatov deal.
With all due respect to Fraizer Campbell & the extra £10m in the clubs coffers, neither are a win.So what happens if we sell Berba for £24m, Fergie thinks were soft and we still can't get Hunts, AA etc.... we're in the same position come deadline day, £10m less in our pockets and no FC. In that situation we end up with a Rasiak or Booth!
£10m is not to be sniffed at boys most of...
I think it was more likely the Man City situation that forced the price up by a few million. Berbatov has also said that City situation delayed the deal by about 3 hours. Could we have done something else with those extra few hours, who knows.
I also heard today that supposedly we tried to sign Kevin Doyle last minute, but Reading wouldn't answer the phone.
And therein perhaps, lies the rub as they say in some 3rd floor rooms in Berwick Street.
Fergie did indeed pay through the eyeballs. Levy & Co spent all the next day shovelling the naughty money into the vault.
And the Sweaty then stands back and watches Carrick raise the silverware.
So yer both right, chaps.
Our opponents in a couple of weeks, Wisla Krakow are appearing on squint eyed Peer 2 Peer TV (generic reference) tonight at 7.30.
They are playing, yes you guessed right, WKS Slask Wroclaw.
Reply to Snap:
Our opponents in a couple of weeks, Wisla Krakow are appearing on squint eyed Peer 2 Peer TV (generic reference) tonight at 7.30.
They are playing, yes you guessed right, WKS Slask Wroclaw.
It's a bugger capitalzed proper names being void in Scrabble.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to Snap:
Our opponents in a couple of weeks, Wisla Krakow are appearing on squint eyed Peer 2 Peer TV (generic reference) tonight at 7.30.
They are playing, yes you guessed right, WKS Slask Wroclaw.It's a bugger capitalzed proper names being void in Scrabble.
As are incorrectly spelt words of course.....
Reply to HarryHotspur:
JASPERWATCH
"I can catergorically state that we have agreement in deal to sign him permanently if we impressed. They can't change on that, and that was ironed out and tied into loan contract 100%, FACT!!!"
Barber Out!
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I would love this to be true but this Jasper bloke is full of shit isn't he? That said, if Jasper is wrong, this is the first time I feel Levy has been out manouvered.
Just read a report from 442 that Gio turned down the scum Chavski and Manure, so does that make it a great coup for us?
or does that mean he will be dreaming of signing for them in 3 years time?
are sky taking the piss, on their skytext homepage their travel feature is.....Bulgaria
So who are the best strikers in the PL that aren't playing UEFA cup football, and who's teams are a bit short on cash that we can buy in the winter?
I'd like Yakubu but he'll be cup tied.
Santa Cruz? He seems to be the only name I can come up with that isn't playing UEFA cup.
Reply to Brightonyid:
are sky taking the piss, on their skytext homepage their travel feature is.....Bulgaria
yeah but the best deal is flying from Manchester or Liverpool!! Via russia lol
Reply to knocsucow00:
So who are the best strikers in the PL that aren't playing UEFA cup football, and who's teams are a bit short on cash that we can buy in the winter?
I'd like Yakubu but he'll be cup tied.
Santa Cruz? He seems to be the only name I can come up with that isn't playing UEFA...
Fernando Torres!
Reply to swanespurs:
Reply to Brightonyid:are sky taking the piss, on their skytext homepage their travel feature is.....Bulgaria
yeah but the best deal is flying from Manchester or Liverpool!! Via russia lol
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to jimbo yiddo:Reply to esspee:Can we all just cheer up please?
Do I need to remind everyone we support the best team in the land, nay, the world?
Apparently so:
National records:
The first team to win the 'Double' of the FA Cup and Top Flight Championship in the 20th Century...Well said, Here Here! I look forward to that list getting longer, my friends!
Perversely, I actually find that list quite depressing.
Surely not, my fellow man, a great number of firsts on that list, im only old enough to remember ozzie and ricky days, but with an exiting squad a competent manager and a board that looks after the club, we will become stronger and stronger. With all the goings on west ham today, newcastle yesterday, today, and tomorrow, we can be thankful its not us in the quagmire! Sorry getting side tracked here, but am on a roll. With regards to all the fuss about man citey, they threaten to buy the best players in the world but wont come to fruition berbs, for one didnt go, i doubt gas will go from ars, nor ronaldo from the mancs,it will be to clear the clubs debt or for wages if they do! Any way missus is off again, baby crying, cant have five minutes these days, work tommorow! Still saturday soon, oh s..t no Spurs game, keep up the good work chaps! Ramos is the man!
I have just read the statement on the official site, and on reflection I think the board have done a great job this summer. Yes they loaned out Pecker, but they can always recall him if need be. The club (and most of us fans) were banking on the signing of Smooth bum. But the deal fell through because of a doggy, greedy russian agent. (a bit 007ish!!) I believe the board are just as dissapointed as us. Our squad in all other departments is brilliant. We can get plenty of goals from midfield and re-inforce up front in Jan. If Campbell scores goals and we send him back....so what? He has done his job, and we will get a world class striker to replace in Jan. Trust me, the board will be working on this now.
We have the foundations to be up in the top four.
Have faith my fellow Spurs!!
Evening HH.
Berba and demento deserve each other.
Chunts.
Hail hail mate.
The window do you any good or were you sexually interferred with too?
Anyone else watching Wisla Krakow? Decent picture but the commentator is making no effort whatsoever to speak in English.
Do you think Juande knows it's on? Anyone got his mobile no. and can text him P2P instructions in Spanish?
Reply to Snap:
Anyone else watching Wisla Krakow? Decent picture but the commentator is making no effort whatsoever to speak in English.
Do you think Juande knows it's on? Anyone got his mobile no. and can text him P2P instructions in Spanish?
whens juande gonna speak english?
why carnt manure and fooking red nose just fookoff and die
Reply to Snap:
Anyone else watching Wisla Krakow? Decent picture but the commentator is making no effort whatsoever to speak in English.
Do you think Juande knows it's on? Anyone got his mobile no. and can text him P2P instructions in Spanish?
Yea, Wis down 1-0. Muahahahahahha, break their spirit WKS Slask Wroclaw, breik their spirit...
paul smith please send my SpursOodysodys account and logon details to jolsgonemental@googlemail.com
ta.
looking forward to the fun times together.
to be honest i think everyone is losing the point over the Utd/berbatov shit.
at the end of teh day kidnapping or not we got the asking price for him. Underhand, overhand, wombling free we all expected him gone come midnight on the 1st.
I really dont care he went, we got 31m or whatever,
likewise keane. 20m = 50+m in revenue.
what fucks me off is that come teh expected we were unprepared and end up begging utd for a kid.
be angry. but be angry at us not at utd. they are doing what we should have been doing, whatever is necessary.
levy out.
arabs in.
we will dance, the day that red nose dies
even though we know its not right
we will dance and sing all night
Reply to hartlane2000:
Reply to JuandeChampions:Can anyone shed any light on if we are still able to sign any players on loan or get anyone in on a free transfer now the window has closed? Obviously we can’t buy anyone but maybe there is someone out there with European experience who isn’t cup tied that we could try to bring in...
...was thinking about that myself not sure what the answer is but best guess is yes as we are looking to loan KPB to Brum according to reports .. maybe Stalteri and the other forgottens will follow
the rules allow only out of contract players or players who buy themselves out of their contracts......thats why henrik laursen was being touted, we should persue in my opinion
Reply to jolsgonemental:
to be honest i think everyone is losing the point over the Utd/berbatov shit.
at the end of teh day kidnapping or not we got the asking price for him. Underhand, overhand, wombling free we all expected him gone come midnight on the 1st.
I really dont care he went, we...
totally agree levy out arabs defo in
by the way why carnt rde nose die lmfao
Reply to hartlane2000:
Reply to JuandeChampions:Can anyone shed any light on if we are still able to sign any players on loan or get anyone in on a free transfer now the window has closed? Obviously we can’t buy anyone but maybe there is someone out there with European experience who isn’t cup tied that we could try to bring in...
...was thinking about that myself not sure what the answer is but best guess is yes as we are looking to loan KPB to Brum according to reports .. maybe Stalteri and the other forgottens will follow
oh and football league clubs can keep loans coming in 7 days after the transfer window has shut, hence why KPB can go to Brum
Reply to Ginge1:
Reply to HarryHotspur:None of us know what happened for sure but outside of the Man Utd 'kidnapping' THFC had months to sort this out and they were either subject to incompetence or bad luck or worse still ... a bit of both.
Like I said previously, not Levy's finest hour but he will know that and moreover...Agree, and I think Levy & Co are gutted with how it panned out. Agree with the AA type as well. just think guys if Hunts would have signed at mid-night what would the overall thoughts on the transfer window be? One bit of bad luck and its all doom and gloom!
a very good point for a strawberry blond
seriously, it was as tight as that, one signing which they thought was nailed on and 50% of us fans are grumpy as f*ck.
I just seen an article on NN from thespursweb calling for ENIC & Gen Levy to get out, that made me kin angry and kin emailed them and kin told them they were a bunch of C**TS for even suggesting it.....now i know how JGM feels
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to toddspur:Reply to Ginge1:Reply to HarryHotspur:None of us know what happened for sure but outside of the Man Utd 'kidnapping' THFC had months to sort this out and they were either subject to incompetence or bad luck or worse still ... a bit of both.
Like I said previously, not Levy's finest hour but he will know that and moreover...Agree, and I think Levy & Co are gutted with how it panned out. Agree with the AA type as well. just think guys if Hunts would have signed at mid-night what would the overall thoughts on the transfer window be? One bit of bad luck and its all doom and gloom!
a very good point for a strawberry blond
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seriously, it was as tight as that, one signing which they thought was nailed on and 50% of us fans are grumpy as f*ck.
I just seen an article on NN from thespursweb calling for ENIC & Gen Levy to get out, that made me kin...erm...i want levy out too
JGM, pls god say you are joking?
Look at the Spammers.....right old 2 & 8, dont want arabs or ruskie oil wonga, i want our club being run by people who love the club....call me a sentimental old twat but thats why i love our club.....overnight i hate Citeh, i always hated Chelscum
Reply to toddspur:
Reply to Ginge1:Reply to HarryHotspur:None of us know what happened for sure but outside of the Man Utd 'kidnapping' THFC had months to sort this out and they were either subject to incompetence or bad luck or worse still ... a bit of both.
Like I said previously, not Levy's finest hour but he will know that and moreover...Agree, and I think Levy & Co are gutted with how it panned out. Agree with the AA type as well. just think guys if Hunts would have signed at mid-night what would the overall thoughts on the transfer window be? One bit of bad luck and its all doom and gloom!
a very good point for a strawberry blond
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seriously, it was as tight as that, one signing which they thought was nailed on and 50% of us fans are grumpy as f*ck.
I just seen an article on NN from thespursweb calling for ENIC & Gen Levy to get out, that made me kin...
erm...i want levy out too
Standing on the beach with a gun in my hand.
Staring at the sea, staring at the sand.
The General D. Levy must stay and keep fighting til the end. I wouldn't mind seeing a new director of football installed though. I remain very very suspicious of his value. Hurts more than helps it seems.
Reply to BruceCastle:
The General D. Levy must stay and keep fighting til the end. I wouldn't mind seeing a new director of football installed though. I remain very very suspicious of his value. Hurts more than helps it seems.
agree with that BC, please persuade JGM to stop dreamin of arabs
arabs, russian, thai, ladyboys, blah blah
as long as they are muli billionaires with more money than sense i say bring em in
Reply to jolsgonemental:
arabs, russian, thai, ladyboys, blah blah
as long as they are muli billionaires with more money than sense i say bring em in
Ok what the fu*k i'll still support them, but then again i'd feel better supporting them in lower position without Arab support.
i dont care. we all say we wouldnt want to be like chelsea or city.
rubbish, you are trying to convinve yourself.
We would love to be in city or chelseas position.
Its more than that for me. I started going as kid. Its where I grew up. I started supporting them when they were in 2nd division. I was never tempted like some of my mates where to support Liverpool and ManUre because they were winning and we were looking flash but winning Fu*K all.
I always preferred punk over pop.
Reply to BruceCastle:
Ok what the fu*k i'll still support them, but then again i'd feel better supporting them in lower position without Arab support.
you wouldnt.
imagine being able to tell utd where to stick there 30m and throwing berbs to the reserves.
beautiful
imagine signing huntelaar, arshavin , villa and veloso.
imagien hearing we are going to bid 150m for ronaldo.
bring it on.
bring it on now,
bring in the arabs.
i predict by 2010 these multi billionaires will have lost interest in either chelskum, citeh, QPR etc etc and football will be in a right mess......what would happen to any of these clubs if their owners just said, fuck it, its F1 for me now.................give me a stable balanced board (except Comolli perhaps) any kin day
Plus we wouldnt be able to laugh at chelscum when they win stuff....how empty do they really feel, i didnt feel that when we won the Carling and still feel fuckin proud
Reply to jolsgonemental:
we have been saying that about chelsea since he came in.
he hasnt lost interest yet.
oh yeah poor buggers have had to live with league titles, fa cups and champs league finals.
empty wins JGM, empty
we have been saying that about chelsea since he came in.
he hasnt lost interest yet.
oh yeah poor buggers have had to live with league titles, fa cups and champs league finals.
Reply to BruceCastle:
Ok what the fu*k i'll still support them, but then again i'd feel better supporting them in lower position without Arab support.
Agree, would rather make Top 4 without buying a spot.
Though with our spending (and others around us) it seems we have to buy our way in anyway. The perception of the owner only lends it to the clubs apparent ambitions, meaning a blank check every year...will stop at nothing till they win, etc.
Might be easier if we didn't have to risk money on unproven players every window, hoping they are class, then hoping they will stay long enough to take us to the promised land.
Rather some (corrupt?) Arab's with deep pockets, than some in debt American owners, or an owner on the run from the law.
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Harry can you please credit the relevant person for this bit of knowledge as I feel almost certain the info that you got from your own e mail inbox was posted on Spurs Odious 10 minutes previous!
I feel a little bit Peterborough United.