Sunday, 05 October 08, 09:07 PM · Comments (478)
This from Benny Blanco, a reliable and credible poster on Spurs Odious...
"I was staying in the same hotel as the Spurs team in Krakow and spoke to Comolli. He said that Huntelaar was never coming as he wanted to stay at Ajax and that Arshavin was not on for January as the Russians did not want to sell. He described the transfer window as 'hell'."
This is at best, spin.
What I do know is that the initial price for Arshavin was €25 million. That was from the mouth of the Director of ZSP, so the idea that the Russians didn't want to vend is cobblers.
There were then numerous tales in the press since that price - describing the frustrations in the deal from both ZSP and Arshavin's agent.
But no remote hint that the player was off limits. Shame on you Damien.
Or is this your way of saying that the Russians didn't want to suffer the silly low offer and the painful negotiations from there on in you threw at them? If so, say so. You took a dogs age to bank the money from the sale of our best players and left us with a team that appears not to work very well.
You're the Director of Football. Increasingly there is a queue forming of good folk who like to read your forthcoming book, 'Would You Like To Know What The F*ck I Did Last Summer?'.
This may well be true but even if it isn't Commolli has demonstrated well beyond reasonable doubt that he's crap at his job. Or have we replaced our dear departed trio of top class strikers and signed the DM and left midfielder that Ramos and Jol before him, both asked for ?
sack comolli sack ramos bring back jol and forget this russian partnership I dont want 2 Rebrovs. No Defoe, No Berba and No Keane, what is going on
you know what Harry, right now I am so disgusted by Levy AND Commoli, that I am almost lost for words.
Levy has put profit before progress, and now seems to be set for his big payday, at the expense of any progress at the club since he took over the helm.
Commolli has earned paycheck after paycheck and delivered a group of average players, many of whom we have sold for a loss, and then this window he has brought in players that cant even play together.
In all of this mess, Juande Ramos is catching flak that he doesnt deserve from fans, and the press, and with no statement forthcoming from the usually very vocal Little Levy, I would not be suprised if he decided to walk.
How the hell can Commolli still be at the club, when he delivered nothiing this window and no one at the club has had the balls to apologise to the fans, who have now turned on Ramos.
Levy, you are ruining this once proud club, we are now a laughing stock in the PL.
In my humbe opinion, if Levy sells the club, and takes Comolli with him, then I would leave Ramos to manage the next trasnfer window, bringing in the palyers that he wants, and se what happens..
I fo one am sure we will not go down, and feankly do not even want to contemplate a future without Ramos or Poyet, as frankly there isnt one.
PATIENCE IS THE WORD ALL REAL SPURS FANS NEED TO USE.
FICKLE MINDED FANS CAN CONTINUE TO ASK FOR SOMEONES HEAD, JUST MAKE SURE IT IS LEVY OR COMMOLLIS AND NOT RAMOS'.
letting go of ramos would be a mistake! get comedy out and let ramos and poyet get on with signing some quality players in january! as phil brown said today it's only the players who are gunna get us out of this mess! so it's time they stepped up! and as for the booing of woodgate today thats pathetic! he's been the only one to show some balls this season!
BY THE WAY WHERE IS OUR CAPTAIN, WHERE IS THE VOICE ON THE PITCH??
I DONT KNOW WHAT IS WRONG WITH KING, BUT POUR SOME GOLD OVER HIM AND MAKE HIM A STATUE AS HE IS NOT A FOOTBALL PLAYER ANYMORE. PLAYING 50% OF GAMES DOES NOT A SOLID DEFENSIVE PARTNERSHIP MAKE.....GET CORLUKA AND WOODY TO FORM THE BACKBONE OF THE DEFENCE AND LETS GET IT ON...
TO ALL THE FANS THAT BOOED THE PLAYERS TODAY - THANKS FOR SHOWING HOW TO SUPPORT YOUR TEAM AND INSTILL CONFIDENCE..
The PSB money should have been handed straight to Zenit.
If Levy didn't want to pay for his replacement, then why did he let him go?
What with the the lack of other crucial positions filled and our current situation, Comolli's job is of course now completely untenable. Levy's decisions are also more than questionable and a massive question mark also hovers above Ramos.
As for today, defence and midfield were better, final third was not good, but fortune, as is often the case when things are bad, was not with us.
The effort was there, I'm no way a 'Jenas lover', but I thought he was our best player in the first half. Modric never shied away from wanting the ball andthe more he plays I think the better he'll become.
No, not a lack of effort today, more of a lack of ability in positions where second best won't be enough (mainly a DM leader and at least one top striker).
Whether we can turn it around with the current regime before things become too desperate (relegation isn't an option nowadays) remains to be seen.
look..Comolli's a pr*ck.. no point even talking about him.. just get rid of him..
here's my notes..
GOMES: (10)
even the best keeper in the league (which he is) wouldn't have saved that..
GUNTER: (5.5)
nothing..
WOODY: (10)
install as captain, King is finished..
CORLUKA: (7)
is quite clearly a better CB than RB.. which was a pleasant surprise..
BALE: (5.5)
the epidemic of "can't cross the ball" is spreading.. Bale needs to be dropped for the Stoke game.. the boy is quality but he has now played 15 Premier League games since joining Tottenham and in those 15 games we have won none of them.. his fault?? quite clearly not.. but is he cursed??
LENNON: (6)
"One Aaron Lennon" cried the Spurs fans upon his substitution.. it's time some people realised that there's a difference between looking dangerous and actually being dangerous.. he was by no means terrible though..
JENAS: (5)
improvement on Thursday in that he worked hard but still patently not good enough..
ZOKORA: (1)
getting ridiculous now..
MODRIC: (6)
finally got on the ball more than usual but then tried stupid flicks that never come off.. still waiting for him to click.. it'll be special when he does..
CAMERON DIAZ: (0)
not on long enough.. and he's injured now.. luckily we have plenty of quality up front.. oh wait..
C*MPBELL: (6)
tried his best.. can't ask much more.. maybe a goal would be nice..
BENT: (0)
insert your own derogatory statement here..
BENTLEY: (6)
starting to annoy me.. i don't even know why..
GIO: (3)
i was crying out for his introduction but he disappointed when he came on..
ANY FANS WHO BOOD AT ANY STAGE: (0)
idiots..
ANY FANS WHO THINK RAMOS SHOULD GO: (0)
more of the same..
Well done agent Commolli.
Your mission is nearly over.
Regards
Arsene
Reply to Bimmi:
look..Comolli's a pr*ck.. no point even talking about him.. just get rid of him..
here's my notes..
GOMES: (10)
even the best keeper in the league (which he is) wouldn't have saved that..
GUNTER: (5.5)
nothing..
WOODY: (10)
...
I booed. I'm not a blind faith happy clappy numpty who thinks that we should hug that bunch of lazy useless bastards.
Gomes was quality.... most of the time.
Lennon.... Mistake taking him off
Bent... Mistake buying him
Pavlychenko... The russian Gary "Ginger Pele" Doherty.
I'm fed up with all these fucking do-gooders who come on here and say don't boo.... do you pay 900 of your hard earned pounds plus another £50 per game on travel?
I certainly don't cough that money up to watch Jenas and co strolling around the pitch....
Carrier bag face tomorrow!
Why do we need a sporting director?
We created this post for Arnesen to find us some quality youth players. He had a proven track record. Comolli was never qualified for the position.
Could you see Redknapp or O'Neill working with a sporting director above them? Redknapp walked out of Pompey last time for that reason. Keegan has basically just done the same thing at Newcastle.
I would prefer it if our manager was making the call on players he wanted in, that way we could judge him on his signings as well as tactics.
by all means be disgruntled but booing don't help..
unless it's aimed at Comolli.
If ever there was a phrase which categorized the Spurs supporter it would be "if we just do this....". We are and have always been believers in the universal panacea: "if we just get Venables/Hoddle/Klinsman/Arshavin.....we'll be OK". Unfortunately our problems are considerably more complex than can be achieved by just one man with a spare 15-20 minutes. It is equally fair to say tho' that the responsibility lies with the men at the top, the decisions they make and the consequences of those decisions: short, medium and long term.
Take for instance our chairman's willingness to take money from other clubs as payment for them shagging us in the arse. It started with Arnensen, then Carrick and the Keane and Berbatov saga was both consequential and inevitable. If Modric turns out to be the new Maradonna, he'll be gone. The papers will set it up and our weakness for folding stuff will do the rest. Aston Villa on the other hand dug their feet in and said "No, we have a contract and you'll honour it". There will be few players at Villa who will now become either targets or not fully understand their contractual obligations.
Will Levy learn? I think not. I do admire his passion for the club, but he's not strong enough as a manager to make a stand and there are times that you have to regardless of cost. I have suspected that Comolli and some board members cajoled Levy into complicity in the Jol/Ramos circus; he appeared unwilling but was the instrument of the board, but perhaps I give him too much credit. Of course his other major mistake was hiring Comolli, a man who has proved to have the Midas touch but with shit instead of gold.
Comolli must go now both to appease the mob and at least stop some of the rot. We all know his shortcomings and Martin Jol’s comments about the continuity aspects of a DoF that involves wholesale change, as we have witnessed this summer, have a certain poignancy.
Continued in part 2..........
Part 2
The support we are giving Ramos (by & large) whose track record is a cup (won with Jol's now dismantled squad) and almost nothing else. It stands in stark contrast to the baying for Jol's head who had not only made us top five twice but had restored faith and belief.
Ramos is not the innocent party here. Jol fell out with Comolli in part because he fought for the players he wanted and it was not hard to read between the lines of what he thought he was being given. Ramos does not appear to have done this to anywhere near the same extent and certainly not to the extent he should have. Once again we go into the fray with glaring holes in our ranks, the same glaring holes we have had for years, plus of course new ones in the striker department.
Ramos should have managed upwards better. He should have dug his heels in for what he wanted, however judging by his team selection I am not sure that he knows what he wants and I worry that HE is the Rebrov we all fear getting again.
We have to persevere with him now though especially after the manner of his courtship and appointment; I believe I’d not be alone in now identifying this as the clubs biggest mistake and greatest shame.
So where now other than down?
Knee jerk reactions and sackings aside (other than Comolli who MUST go), we do need change. The idea that it’s OK, its coming together and getting better slowly, will inevitably see us relegated.
Change is necessary right now and the DoF is now a key and pivotal position to be filled by someone with the wisdom to help us out of the current plight and do what must be done in the Christmas sales. But talk of Villa or Huntelaar or maybe even Arshavin can go…….players we need now are those who will keep us in the EPL. Players we would love to see will not come to a club in our league position; this is no long a transition season but a survival season with the possibility of a transition if we’re lucky!
Reply to HenryPercy:
Reply to Bimmi:look..Comolli's a pr*ck.. no point even talking about him.. just get rid of him..
here's my notes..
GOMES: (10)
even the best keeper in the league (which he is) wouldn't have saved that..
GUNTER: (5.5)
nothing..
WOODY: (10)
...I booed. I'm not a blind faith happy clappy numpty who thinks that we should hug that bunch of lazy useless bastards.
Gomes was quality.... most of the time.
Lennon.... Mistake taking him off
Bent... Mistake buying him
Pavlychenko... The russian Gary "Ginger Pele"...
dance monkey dance. do you seriously think any of us are happy about the state we're in?. some of us are just a little bit more grown up about it. you want the team to stand up and be counted, but you're not prepared to do the same.
i've a feeling that carrier bag face is a regular thing in your house.
We've all had too much of the quack-comolli.
I feel sick. This is a fucking nightmare
Harold,
I ain't a fan of DC as his track record is abysmal at best. But in this regard, you need to implicate Levy. All the circumstantial evidence leads to the conclusion that Levy controls all the wonga and so any mucking around over the fee with the Russians, and the delay in selling the Bulgarian until Man Ure paid over 30 big ones, is entirely down to Levy. DC is not a real DoF but is merely an adviser to Levy. The screw-up at the end of the transfer window was entirely due to Levy being a business man rather than a football man.
Bollo was right. We probably won't see a more stunning free kick all season. Did one of the scouts say "You should take a closer look at that Geovanni... and DC thought he meant Giovani?" Maybe that explains why he wielded his own axe this past week... but anyway, as free agent acquisitions go, you'll not find many better than Geovanni.
We truly have f*cked about in the window. Not because we bought utter tripe, but because of who we bought and when, and how our business was conducted. It is noted how many here are defending Ramos' position. I actually too believe he should be given more time. But I like to play devil's advocate from time to time, so here we go. I made mention in a previous post during the window, that Jamiespurs was incorrect to state that Ramos gave Diego Capel his first start at Sevilla and made him the player he is today (or words to the effect - don't get paranoid JS, I'm simply making a point). I did say that this was not actually the case, Sevilla had a good youth/nurturing sytem in place before Ramos' arrival there, and Capel had already played for the first team prior to Ramos' tenure at the club. In fact Sevilla's academy is renowned in Spain for it's excellence when it comes to bringing talent through, and it has done so for many years now. What Ramos did with Sevilla on paper at least is admirable. However, if you look at his managerial record prior to his spell in Sevilla, it is largely uninspiring.
Which leads me to pose the question? Was Ramos actually a key difference maker at Sevilla, or was he simply good enough to steer a ship that was in already in good order, one that was being maintained and run efficiently from top to bottom?
Let's face it, with Comolli directing the operation our ship has a few gaping holes in it, and we're sinking with it. I concede it's not exactly all Ramos' fault here - but I'm not sure if he's the man to keep us afloat, either. We're short on strikers so we loan out Peckhart? Stroke of genius.
Pavlyuchenko. Yeah, he's been on the go since March. It's hard to expect him to slot in and perform 7 months into his own private season. Bent? Well, IMO he should be playing, and Pav should be resting. Bent needs to play to get some confidence. In the meantime we're still not winning when we drop him, are we? And Fraizer Campbell? How short term solution can you get? We are just assisting Manure in developing their player, right?
Comolli out. For sure. His head rolls before anyone elses does.
Nicely put fatknacker. HP is clearly one of our less educated/experienced brethren... HP i'm sure your girl/boy friend or wife would really get you performing if they booed you due your sexual performance being below par... we are called supporters not detractors, we support, thats what we do. You are part of the club... what next do we want the players booing each other, thats ultimately where your sick attitude leads!!! Now grow up please!
Right I have been doing a lot of thinking since yesterday, I have had a lot of things on my mind and listening to talk sport did not help as i ended up throwing the radio at the wall and breaking it, listening to very fickle spurs fans calling in, yes i do have anger management issues.
The first point (not most important thing, but really annoying me the most)
DEFOE (this is when radio hit the wall, so many fans bringing this up)- why is so many people saying we shouldn’t have sold him?? In hindsight yes, we shouldn’t have but when we did he was 4th choice striker!! He was never going to replace berba + keane. In the premier league, how can you keep someone of his quality happy sitting on the bench? He is a good player but when we sold him he wouldn’t have started! So will people wake up and realise we had little choice but to sell!!
Ramos - People are starting to question him, yes myself included, I do believe in him but no matter how good you are after the start we have had no matter how good you are, you will be questioned. I do think he is great and will take time to get adjusted, but we cannot keep saying this - we have only 2 points next 4 matches are crucial - there are some real hard matches and we need to grind out victories. Mysterious Stranger - how can you not give credit to Ramos for the job he did at Sevila - does that mean just cause Jose had money at Chelsea he doesn’t get any credit? He did brilliant with Sevilla - yes they had a great youth team - but he still had to bring them into the 1st team and nurture them. You also said about his managerial record - it actually is very good - if you delve a little deeper you will find out that he actually improved every team he managed (except Espanyol, 5 games, not enough) Is he the man - in short yes if he is given time, will he though, that is a different story. You need to look at what happens if he goes. IMO I believe that Poyet will be the next manager (Jol situation)
that’s why he turned down Newcastle, why else would a number 2 turn down a big job like that. Yes Newcastle are in a bit of a mess but once Newcastle are sold (1-2 months) that is most of the problem sorted – so why did Poyet turn it down?? Because he is next on line – so anybody that is critising Ramos – think about it – before saying get rid of him – I’m not saying Poyet would not be a good manager for us – but how much say is he getting tactics/substitutions if it is a lot, why get rid of Ramos and replace him with Poyet.
Levy – Okay, to you and most other Spurs fans this is out life, this is our club, we would do anything for spurs – we want the best and demand the best. Levy has done great job for this club – however he is running it like a business – which he has a right to do as we are a business – we do not have a mega rich owner who can throw money for the sake of it – and until that day Spurs have to be run like a business. If some mega rich owner wanted to buy the club Levy would sell – but this has not happened yet. He has made a considerable amount of money available for transfers. So for that I acknowledge, obviously we would like more, but we always want more. He has also got some good deals for players Berba + Keane, see next point. To finish with Levy he has done a great job for this club and needs to be backed until we get/if we get a mega rich owner.
Berba/Keane – How fickle are fans? People saying we shouldn’t have sold? Did we have a choice?????? I would have loved them to have stayed – if we had them we would not be bottom table. Berba – wanted to leave he didn’t want to wear the shirt – do people think Ramos/Comolli/Levy just said sell him and didn’t try to persuade him to stay – NO he wanted to leave. Which is why we sold him for 30 mill + Fraz on loan – again Levy could have done it quicker but we wouldn’t have got as much – again see previous Tottenham is a business.
Keane same type of story – however I thought Keane would have had more loyality – he didn’t and wanted to go – s we had to sell and again 20 mill was a good deal for ourselves. In short if players don’t want to play for our beloved tottenham – they can go, no matter who they are! So don’t say try and get them to stay – that has obviously happened but they didn’t want to – so we had no choice but to sell.
Final Point Comolli
This is the big point as I am so divided about him – I believe he has brought some great players to the club but also some poor acquisitions. Lets look at his signings
Esokotto – 3.5 mill – to be honest has not played enough matches (injuries etc.) at the moment maybe not worth 3.5 but he is not a terrible player and is still young.
Zokora – 8.6 mill – not good enough for that type of money – at the time thought he would be great but not premiership class.
Berba – 10.6mill – Great signing – trebled in value.
Pekhart – free – def great for free- can make money – could turn out good.
Mido – undis – not a bad signing – made money on him
Malbranque – 2mill – not bad signing – made money on him
Chimbonda – 4.5 – not bad signing – never lost any money on him
Rocha – 3.2 – Poor signing
Taarabt – undis – Could be good – wont loose any money on him – needs first team action
Bale – 5mill – bargain – will be a great signing.
Bent 16.5 mill – too much money for an average prem striker.
Kaboul 8 mill – not proved his value – sold for 5 mill
Boateng – 5.4 mill – waste of money
Gunter – 3mill – early days – but 3 mill reasonable price for some1 his age
Woodgate 8 mill – reasonable value – good signing
Hutton 9 mill – good signing – be great right back- missed him
Gilberto – 1.9 mill – poor siging however if we sell him – wont make a big loss- if a loss.
Modric 15.8 mil – needs time to adjust. At time everyone thought great signing – whichg I belive he will turn out to be.
Bostock – 700grand – bargain
Giovanni – 4.7 mill – bargain – he will turn out great for us – we will not loose money
Gomes – 7.8 mill – good signing
Corluka – 8.5 mill – good signing – will be good c/h with woody
Pavlychenko – 13.8 mill – too early to judge.
Bently 15 mill – great signing at the time – he has underperformed (not comolli fault)
So looking at the signings
Poor Players brought in – Zokora/Rocha/Bent/Kaboul/Boateng. (I have not included anyone that we will make money on or break even with) so that is 5 players out of 23 players mentioned above. 21% of his players have been poor. Is that a good enough record? I do not know as I have nothing to compare it too – all I know is that every club makes poor signings. So maybe an 80% strike rate is good.
IMO I am not blaming Comolli as much as players+ramos as are squad is good enough to be performing a hell of a lot better than what it is.
I have just completed my UEFA A license and plan to do pro – i would love levy to phone me and offer me the job – I would install better confidence in the players + let a few home truths out. I had an idea about a team selection – 1nce everyone is fully fit – how about playing King DM – until we buy one.
Gomes
Hutton
Woody
Corluka
Bale
Gio
King
Jenas
Modric
Bently
Pav
(I really like that team Gio on left, bently on right) Im actually excited looking at it – plz Ramos play this side!)
Sorry for long article needed to get stuff off my chest.
Wayne
Yid for Life
Reply to HenryPercy:
Reply to Bimmi:look..Comolli's a pr*ck.. no point even talking about him.. just get rid of him..
here's my notes..
GOMES: (10)
even the best keeper in the league (which he is) wouldn't have saved that..
GUNTER: (5.5)
nothing..
WOODY: (10)
...I booed. I'm not a blind faith happy clappy numpty who thinks that we should hug that bunch of lazy useless bastards.
Gomes was quality.... most of the time.
Lennon.... Mistake taking him off
Bent... Mistake buying him
Pavlychenko... The russian Gary "Ginger Pele"...
spot on.
boo the fuckers all the way home.
BUT we cannot sack Manuel. Even he is better than no manager or Joe Kinnear.
Morning all,
Well, just when I though it couldn't get any worse....... However, watching the highlights of yesterdays game we actually looked like we were playing football and trying to score. My dad watched the whole game and he said that it was a far better performance than most he has seen from us all season.
The Hull goal was stupendous. It possibly is one of the best free kicks you will see anywhere all season.
A brief assessment>
I agree with Bimi's assessment of Lennon 'looking menacing' however I feel he flatters to deceive. Lots of running at his man and putting his body at silly angles but how often does he 'hurt' sides? IMO Bentley may well when fit contribute more to the side.
Bimi's assessment of dropping Bale for the Stoke game is HORRID. Mainly because the only other LB options are Gilberto and BAE (2 of the worst Comolli signings EVER) Bale will come good, he's been hit by the malaise that is surrounding the club at present.
Woody - A captain if ever there was. A man who should and I believe will lead us out of this slump.
Corluka - When Hutton is back fit Corluka will surely form a good CB partnership with Woody. Hull free kick aside and the Marney post they snuffed Hull out.
Gunter - Get off the kids back. He's 19 playing his first full season of PL football and he's playing in a team that has 0 confidence. Not an easy task.
Zokora - WHY? WHY? WHY?
Modric - Apparently beginning to settle into the PL. Once Ramos actually settles on where he wants to play him I'm sure he'll become a star.
Bent - Again, get off the guys back. He's got NO service from the midfield all season. He's surviving on scraps at the moment.
All in all, a defeat against Hull at home as Arsenal will testify is a shock. a BIG shock. However, from what I'm hearing and from what I saw yesterday the performance was improved.
I may be delusional but I still believe that someone very soon will get a tonking from us.
Our main problem is not complicated. We lost three top class strikers and have not replaced them. End of. Unless you believe it is Ramos's job to buy and sell players you cannot blame him. The world and his drunk grandmother new that Berba was leaving at the beginning of the summer. We had the money so what was to stop us buying a decent replacement early ? After all, if by some miracle Berb had stayed we would have been in the same situation as last season where we had 4 potential first team strikers.
The quality of crosses into their penalty area yesterday may have varied but there were in enough of them for a decent striker to take advantage of.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Morning all,
Well, just when I though it couldn't get any worse....... However, watching the highlights of yesterdays game we actually looked like we were playing football and trying to score. My dad watched the whole game and he said that it was a far better performance than most he...
Good stuff, old boy.
And for all you Zokora baiters.
I have been one of his biggest critics but he was pretty good again yesterday. He reads the game well and covers and clears up a lot of dangerous situations. And if you want players who don't give up and never stop fighting He da man.
Reply to onedavemackay:
Our main problem is not complicated. We lost three top class strikers and have not replaced them. End of. Unless you believe it is Ramos's job to buy and sell players you cannot blame him. The world and his drunk grandmother new that Berba was leaving at the beginning of the summer. We had the...
and malbranque.
still. a poorer squad, but better than relegation battlers surely?
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to jamiespurs:Morning all,
Well, just when I though it couldn't get any worse....... However, watching the highlights of yesterdays game we actually looked like we were playing football and trying to score. My dad watched the whole game and he said that it was a far better performance than most he...Good stuff, old boy.
Don't encourage him
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to jamiespurs:Morning all,
Well, just when I though it couldn't get any worse....... However, watching the highlights of yesterdays game we actually looked like we were playing football and trying to score. My dad watched the whole game and he said that it was a far better performance than most he...Good stuff, old boy.
HH, I'm trying to remain optimistic. However, I feel a twisted sense of depression bubbling below my cool calm exterior.
Morning Jamie.
When are you and Ginge starting your own blog / forum ?
Cos I for one can't wait.
As for a name how about : The Two Non Ronnies
Reply to onedavemackay:
Morning Jamie.
When are you and Ginge starting your own blog / forum ?
Cos I for one can't wait.
As for a name how about : The Two Non Ronnies
The two Noddies?
Reply to onedavemackay:
And for all you Zokora baiters.
I have been one of his biggest critics but he was pretty good again yesterday. He reads the game well and covers and clears up a lot of dangerous situations. And if you want players who don't give up and never stop fighting He da man.
He does run around and snuff out trouble and YES we do need players who won't stop running. However, Zoks passing lets him down.
I really don't see how he gets the nod ahead of JOH. JOH runs around and snuffs out trouble just like Zok, the main difference is that young JOH CAN pass and is probably more of a threat when we are on the offensive.
Reply to DoubleVision:
Nicely put fatknacker. HP is clearly one of our less educated/experienced brethren... HP i'm sure your girl/boy friend or wife would really get you performing if they booed you due your sexual performance being below par... we are called supporters not detractors, we support, thats what we do. You...
Hey, futhermucker, that metaphor is some of my best work!
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to onedavemackay:Our main problem is not complicated. We lost three top class strikers and have not replaced them. End of. Unless you believe it is Ramos's job to buy and sell players you cannot blame him. The world and his drunk grandmother new that Berba was leaving at the beginning of the summer. We had the...
and malbranque.
still. a poorer squad, but better than relegation battlers surely?
Amen to Malbranque.
Where is his replacement ?
And who on Earth thought we could afford to lose such a grafter who could play anywhere across the middle and wait for it................. SCORES GOALS
Reply to Bimmi:
by all means be disgruntled but booing don't help..
unless it's aimed at Comolli.
Booing seems to be the only way to convey disgruntledness..... I mean, this club is dumb enough to believe if I clap and cheer all the time it means I am happy....
No... it's about time THEY stood up and be counted.... I booed the fuckers off... I'll boo them off every time they disgrace a shirt I love so much... I stood up and was counted, I sang I willed them on.... but at the end of the day....They didn't do the business.
Reply to onedavemackay:
Morning Jamie.
When are you and Ginge starting your own blog / forum ?
Cos I for one can't wait.
As for a name how about : The Two Non Ronnies
ODM,
Whats wrong? Has the nurse not been up to change your pad? Or is there another reason why you are being an ignoramus this morning?
Like you, I am commenting on what I witnessed yesterday and what I have been told by people who saw the game.
Unfortunately for me my office is awash with people harping on about Rangers getting beat by the mighty St Mirren.
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to HenryPercy:Reply to Bimmi:look..Comolli's a pr*ck.. no point even talking about him.. just get rid of him..
here's my notes..
GOMES: (10)
even the best keeper in the league (which he is) wouldn't have saved that..
GUNTER: (5.5)
nothing..
WOODY: (10)
...I booed. I'm not a blind faith happy clappy numpty who thinks that we should hug that bunch of lazy useless bastards.
Gomes was quality.... most of the time.
Lennon.... Mistake taking him off
Bent... Mistake buying him
Pavlychenko... The russian Gary "Ginger Pele"...dance monkey dance. do you seriously think any of us are happy about the state we're in?. some of us are just a little bit more grown up about it. you want the team to stand up and be counted, but you're not prepared to do the same.
i've a feeling that carrier bag face is a regular thing in...
Stand up and be counted??? I've done nothing but be ridiculed by wandering around with my beloved shirt on. BUT if you think I am cheering that shower of shite then you're going to be sorely disappointed.
What did you do after the game then? Cheer them for a hard earned loss? Congratulate them on all the effort they put in?
Did you fairycakes!
And yes.... Carrier bag face is a regular feature recently... Due to a distinct and obvious lack of sphericals on many of our players.
And as far as your grown up comment goes, the only people that I did see with a smile on their face as I trudged back to Northumberland Park yesterday were small children nipping in the shops to buy sweets. Everyone else looked decidedly fucked off..... Oh and most people around me booed.... apart from one lad who was playing a PSP....
Wasn't you was it?
I think we've been generous in giving the leaders a 15 points head start. Champions League here we come....
Reply to HenryPercy:
Reply to Bimmi:by all means be disgruntled but booing don't help..
unless it's aimed at Comolli.Booing seems to be the only way to convey disgruntledness..... I mean, this club is dumb enough to believe if I clap and cheer all the time it means I am happy....
No... it's about time THEY stood up and be counted.... I booed the fuckers off... I'll boo them off every time they...
All I saw was a ration of highlights on the telly at ten. The clip provided and I listened to the coverage on the Beeb.
I think 'digrace' sounds a bit strong.
As I say - I wasn't there.
But it sounds strong.
1st: We have to stick with JR and put a stop this management merry go round we've been unable to get off for the last ten years
2nd: Comolli has to go, he's consistantly crap at his job and has failed us, JR and MJ for the last 3 years
3rd: Do we need to replace him? If JR wants another DoF then get the man in that he wants, if JR doesnt want a DoF then don't bother and let him get on finding and signing his own players.
4th: Levy has consistantly dipped his hand in his deep pockets and spent big money on players, unfortunately they have been bought on the advice of Comolli and not the manager- get Comolli out.
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to onedavemackay:Morning Jamie.
When are you and Ginge starting your own blog / forum ?
Cos I for one can't wait.
As for a name how about : The Two Non RonniesThe two Noddies?
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to HenryPercy:Reply to Bimmi:by all means be disgruntled but booing don't help..
unless it's aimed at Comolli.Booing seems to be the only way to convey disgruntledness..... I mean, this club is dumb enough to believe if I clap and cheer all the time it means I am happy....
No... it's about time THEY stood up and be counted.... I booed the fuckers off... I'll boo them off every time they...All I saw was a ration of highlights on the telly at ten. The clip provided and I listened to the coverage on the Beeb.
I think 'digrace' sounds a bit strong.
As I say - I wasn't there.
But it sounds strong.
To be bottom of the league after 7 games, three of which are home games against Sunderland, Wigan and Hull is a disgrace.
however saying that, by far best performance of the season. Considering we still lost, i am not sure if that if that is encouraging or not.
Reply to norfolkspur:
1st: We have to stick with JR and put a stop this management merry go round we've been unable to get off for the last ten years
2nd: Comolli has to go, he's consistantly crap at his job and has failed us, JR and MJ for the last 3 years
3rd: Do we need to replace him? If...
After reading this morning that Mr Ramos has a 15 mill get out clause in his contract if he gets the big size 10, I don't think we have to worry about JR getting the boot. After all Levy runs the club as a business first and a footbal club second. Writting off his Berba cash isn't on his agenda.
We must stick by Ramos and hope that there is more wisdom applied for the January transfere window.
I agree that the lawyer has to go. Incompetenace is costing us dearly. We must move on quickly and get behind the team. Too much booing i feel is really affecting what little confidence may remain on the pitch.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to onedavemackay:And for all you Zokora baiters.
I have been one of his biggest critics but he was pretty good again yesterday. He reads the game well and covers and clears up a lot of dangerous situations. And if you want players who don't give up and never stop fighting He da man.He does run around and snuff out trouble and YES we do need players who won't stop running. However, Zoks passing lets him down.
I really don't see how he gets the nod ahead of JOH. JOH runs around and snuffs out trouble just like Zok, the main difference is that young JOH CAN pass...
I am a fan of O'Hara and he is more creative than Zok. But Zok is a more effective defensive midfielder and in our most recent matches he has been our most consistent player.
A lot of people who were in the Park Lane upper seemed to be getting caught up in player hating, conveniently looking over the good play to concentrate on the bad.
I swear some of them get a srange kick out of seeing us fail.
Is this behaviour restricted to my small section of the ground or is it more widespread?
ODM
I believe you are no worse than Mr Paul Smith and the other Spurs Odious idiots. To come onto a site and ridicule other fans for posting their views is rather sad. I'm sure by lording it over the rest of us it gives you a lovely smug feeling. However, it is like i said, pretty sad.
You may have been alive long enough to remember the 'glory days' and the great teams we used to possess, BUT this does not automatically make you better than the next fan or supporter. Loyalty isn't something you accrue, its something you have.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to onedavemackay:Morning Jamie.
When are you and Ginge starting your own blog / forum ?
Cos I for one can't wait.
As for a name how about : The Two Non RonniesODM,
Whats wrong? Has the nurse not been up to change your pad? Or is there another reason why you are being an ignoramus this morning?
Like you, I am commenting on what I witnessed yesterday and what I have been told by people who saw the game.
...
Actually, my nurse was late this morning with my executive relief and I am slightly out of sync. But my ignorance is no worse this morning than any other morning and I am upset and heartbroken that I, one of you and Ginge's biggest fans should be treated so meanly.
Reply to jamiespurs:
ODM
I believe you are no worse than Mr Paul Smith and the other Spurs Odious idiots. To come onto a site and ridicule other fans for posting their views is rather sad. I'm sure by lording it over the rest of us it gives you a lovely smug feeling. However, it is like i said, pretty...
Well I'm relieved to know I'm no worse than Paul Smith.
Reply to jamiespurs:
ODM
I believe you are no worse than Mr Paul Smith and the other Spurs Odious idiots. To come onto a site and ridicule other fans for posting their views is rather sad. I'm sure by lording it over the rest of us it gives you a lovely smug feeling. However, it is like i said, pretty...
It's true I'm sad
and ridiculous
and old
Now where did I put my service revolver ?
maybe not worse (the man is a genuine IDIOT), just on a par.
However, I must say that I'm very impressed how people of the older generation like yourself have grasped the internet.
My day would go so much slower without your ingenius and often side splittingly funny comments.
So.... gettting back to football, do you not think by sending JOH out as a CDM and giving him a clearly defined role that he may become a far better CDM than Zokora?
Reply to jamiespurs:
maybe not worse (the man is a genuine IDIOT), just on a par.
However, I must say that I'm very impressed how people of the older generation like yourself have grasped the internet.
My day would go so much slower without your ingenius and often side splittingly funny...
play King DM.
let modric and jenas push forward.
Wayne
King is struggling to patrol the 18yrd box at present.
IMO his knees would give way if he had to get around the midfield too. It hurts me to say it but Corluka and Woody's new partnership may spell the end for Captain King.
There is no point in letting Wwoody and Corluka build up a partnership if its going to get broken up everytime Ledley makes it to 90% fit.
Reply to jamiespurs:
maybe not worse (the man is a genuine IDIOT), just on a par.
However, I must say that I'm very impressed how people of the older generation like yourself have grasped the internet.
My day would go so much slower without your ingenius and often side splittingly funny...
O'Hara has a lot of good qualities but at the moment Zok is our best defensive midfielder and much of what he does goes unnoticed. It's interesting that most of us who were there agree on that.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Wayne
King is struggling to patrol the 18yrd box at present.
IMO his knees would give way if he had to get around the midfield too. It hurts me to say it but Corluka and Woody's new partnership may spell the end for Captain King.
There is no point in...
I understand what your saying but I think he could do a job there rather than keep changing the back 4 just to put him in. I know he is not going to last there every match.
IMO he could do a decent enough job, just sitting in front of the back 4 breaking play up and passing it to Mod or JJ.
Maybe it is my heart talking (in saying play him DM) as I think he is a great player and just want him playing.
ledley is finished, injury ravaged slow and not even half the player he was.
stop even considering the possibility orf relying on him to perform any role for us.
woodgate for captain.
Reply to onedavemackay:
Reply to jamiespurs:maybe not worse (the man is a genuine IDIOT), just on a par.
However, I must say that I'm very impressed how people of the older generation like yourself have grasped the internet.
My day would go so much slower without your ingenius and often side splittingly funny...O'Hara has a lot of good qualities but at the moment Zok is our best defensive midfielder and much of what he does goes unnoticed. It's interesting that most of us who were there agree on that.
Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be able to get down to the lane anytime soon. Its a bloody long way away these days! I have to rely on the internet P2P's and speaking to people who saw it. However, my spies did tell me that it was a much improved performance (but we still lost
)
I understand your case about Zokora and I appreciate what he brings to the team. Its just frustrating that he seems unable to hit a half decent pass. Its ok when he keeps it simple but unfortunately by the time he has won the ball and then worked it to someone who can pass we have lost the impetus and the 'break' is over before it started.
Agree about Zok and King and Woody for captain. I dont see any comment about Jenas so far, he was quite good yesterday but no surprise because it was due. Lets hope he play for England and get injured, knee ligament or broken ankle or something and out for months because thats the only way I can see Ramos not playing him.
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to DoubleVision:Nicely put fatknacker. HP is clearly one of our less educated/experienced brethren... HP i'm sure your girl/boy friend or wife would really get you performing if they booed you due your sexual performance being below par... we are called supporters not detractors, we support, thats what we do. You...
Hey, futhermucker, that metaphor is some of my best work!
Copyright?
Reply to HenryPercy:
Reply to billybigspud:Reply to HenryPercy:Reply to Bimmi:look..Comolli's a pr*ck.. no point even talking about him.. just get rid of him..
here's my notes..
GOMES: (10)
even the best keeper in the league (which he is) wouldn't have saved that..
GUNTER: (5.5)
nothing..
WOODY: (10)
...I booed. I'm not a blind faith happy clappy numpty who thinks that we should hug that bunch of lazy useless bastards.
Gomes was quality.... most of the time.
Lennon.... Mistake taking him off
Bent... Mistake buying him
Pavlychenko... The russian Gary "Ginger Pele"...dance monkey dance. do you seriously think any of us are happy about the state we're in?. some of us are just a little bit more grown up about it. you want the team to stand up and be counted, but you're not prepared to do the same.
i've a feeling that carrier bag face is a regular thing in...Stand up and be counted??? I've done nothing but be ridiculed by wandering around with my beloved shirt on. BUT if you think I am cheering that shower of shite then you're going to be sorely disappointed.
What did you do after the game then? Cheer them for a hard earned loss?...
henry,
i've avoided my local for the last week because of the p*sstaking. i'm not happy, and the cat's out the flap as soon as it hears me.i just fail to see how booing helps them, or makes you feel better.
i thought the performance yesterday was an improvement. their goal was one they'll be telling their grandkids about. after which they parked panzers on the lawn. we've lost the best strikeforce in the prem. and, through ineptitude or negligence, failed to replace them. so, no surprise, we couldn't break them down. i saw no lack of effort, just a lack of guile and confidence.
i saw nothing much to cheer about,nor nothing to boo.
i'm not happy clappy, just atheistic and cynical. i have no idea where it came from but i have this strange inner confidence that given time it'll all come right.
Reply to ToniMontana:
Agree about Zok and King and Woody for captain. I dont see any comment about Jenas so far, he was quite good yesterday but no surprise because it was due. Lets hope he play for England and get injured, knee ligament or broken ankle or something and out for months because thats the only way I can see...
good attitude to have - lets hope 1 of our players gets injured!!??
Reply to TMWNN:
A lot of people who were in the Park Lane upper seemed to be getting caught up in player hating, conveniently looking over the good play to concentrate on the bad.
I swear some of them get a srange kick out of seeing us fail.
Is this behaviour restricted to my small...
Im BLock 41 where are you old bean? Cant say i noticed too much hating going on - Its more nervous apprehension in my area tbh
There are however 3 burkes in my row that need sorting out. Arrive Late every game, 5 mins b4 half time, 5 mins after half time and then leave 5 mins before the end. Twits - Just when the team need them.
Reply to wayne:
Reply to ToniMontana:Agree about Zok and King and Woody for captain. I dont see any comment about Jenas so far, he was quite good yesterday but no surprise because it was due. Lets hope he play for England and get injured, knee ligament or broken ankle or something and out for months because thats the only way I can see...
good attitude to have - lets hope 1 of our players gets injured!!??
Bentley Please!
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to wayne:Reply to ToniMontana:Agree about Zok and King and Woody for captain. I dont see any comment about Jenas so far, he was quite good yesterday but no surprise because it was due. Lets hope he play for England and get injured, knee ligament or broken ankle or something and out for months because thats the only way I can see...
good attitude to have - lets hope 1 of our players gets injured!!??
Bentley Please!
Dawson for me!
Reply to wayne:
Reply to ToniMontana:Agree about Zok and King and Woody for captain. I dont see any comment about Jenas so far, he was quite good yesterday but no surprise because it was due. Lets hope he play for England and get injured, knee ligament or broken ankle or something and out for months because thats the only way I can see...
good attitude to have - lets hope 1 of our players gets injured!!??
Because he is shit and will always be.... How long has he been in the club? 3-4 years? Thats a long time, and still no improvement! And to make it worse, he is the captain! What a waste of space. He is shit. End of.
I think insurance maybe the only way to recoup some of the money we wasted on these mugs.
Reply to jolsgonemental:
and of course 'The Prince'
You don't have to worry about him mate.
Rumour has it that he's back in Germany after Ramos told him he wasn't wanted anymore. When Brum tried to sign him on loan Mcleish came out and said they couldn't get hold of him as he was in ze fatherland.
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to wayne:Reply to ToniMontana:Agree about Zok and King and Woody for captain. I dont see any comment about Jenas so far, he was quite good yesterday but no surprise because it was due. Lets hope he play for England and get injured, knee ligament or broken ankle or something and out for months because thats the only way I can see...
good attitude to have - lets hope 1 of our players gets injured!!??
Bentley Please!
thought he was much improved yesterday. he must be a natural rb.
Reply to jamiespurs:
ODM
I believe you are no worse than Mr Paul Smith and the other Spurs Odious idiots. To come onto a site and ridicule other fans for posting their views is rather sad. I'm sure by lording it over the rest of us it gives you a lovely smug feeling. However, it is like i said, pretty...
Jamie how dare you (attempt to) insult ODM..
Reply to ToniMontana:
Reply to wayne:Reply to ToniMontana:Agree about Zok and King and Woody for captain. I dont see any comment about Jenas so far, he was quite good yesterday but no surprise because it was due. Lets hope he play for England and get injured, knee ligament or broken ankle or something and out for months because thats the only way I can see...
good attitude to have - lets hope 1 of our players gets injured!!??
Because he is shit and will always be.... How long has he been in the club? 3-4 years? Thats a long time, and still no improvement! And to make it worse, he is the captain! What a waste of space. He is shit. End of.
thats your opinion which you are entitled too -however saying something like hope he gets injured is taking it too far imo.
Jenas to me is a good player however not good enough if we are looking to break into top 4.
However looking at our current squad he warrants a place in the centre midifeld. I think he puts a lot of work in and believe his end product is a hell of lot better than zokora.
So in short yes, there are better players out there but we dont have them so at the moment he should start.
Bently - I do believe he will turn good - needs time and games at rw.
Dawson - Not a bad squad player - not good enough to start but ok in emergencies - still young for centre half.
Reply to wayne:
Reply to ToniMontana:Reply to wayne:Reply to ToniMontana:Agree about Zok and King and Woody for captain. I dont see any comment about Jenas so far, he was quite good yesterday but no surprise because it was due. Lets hope he play for England and get injured, knee ligament or broken ankle or something and out for months because thats the only way I can see...
good attitude to have - lets hope 1 of our players gets injured!!??
Because he is shit and will always be.... How long has he been in the club? 3-4 years? Thats a long time, and still no improvement! And to make it worse, he is the captain! What a waste of space. He is shit. End of.
thats your opinion which you are entitled too -however saying something like hope he gets injured is taking it too far imo.
Jenas to me is a good player however not good enough if we are looking to break into top 4.
However looking at our current squad he warrants a...
Dawson........... We should have signed his brother!
Andy has played blinders against Arsenal and now us. Michael has just looked blind.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to wayne:Reply to ToniMontana:Reply to wayne:Reply to ToniMontana:Agree about Zok and King and Woody for captain. I dont see any comment about Jenas so far, he was quite good yesterday but no surprise because it was due. Lets hope he play for England and get injured, knee ligament or broken ankle or something and out for months because thats the only way I can see...
good attitude to have - lets hope 1 of our players gets injured!!??
Because he is shit and will always be.... How long has he been in the club? 3-4 years? Thats a long time, and still no improvement! And to make it worse, he is the captain! What a waste of space. He is shit. End of.
thats your opinion which you are entitled too -however saying something like hope he gets injured is taking it too far imo.
Jenas to me is a good player however not good enough if we are looking to break into top 4.
However looking at our current squad he warrants a...Dawson........... We should have signed his brother!
Andy has played blinders against Arsenal and now us. Michael has just looked blind.
when we signed him - i was excited - thought good one for the future.
im not saying start him but he def not a bad squad player.
corluka+woody good centre halfs with dawson as a back up.
Least no one will blame Comolli for Dawson lol
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to wayne:Reply to ToniMontana:Reply to wayne:Reply to ToniMontana:Agree about Zok and King and Woody for captain. I dont see any comment about Jenas so far, he was quite good yesterday but no surprise because it was due. Lets hope he play for England and get injured, knee ligament or broken ankle or something and out for months because thats the only way I can see...
good attitude to have - lets hope 1 of our players gets injured!!??
Because he is shit and will always be.... How long has he been in the club? 3-4 years? Thats a long time, and still no improvement! And to make it worse, he is the captain! What a waste of space. He is shit. End of.
thats your opinion which you are entitled too -however saying something like hope he gets injured is taking it too far imo.
Jenas to me is a good player however not good enough if we are looking to break into top 4.
However looking at our current squad he warrants a...Dawson........... We should have signed his brother!
Andy has played blinders against Arsenal and now us. Michael has just looked blind.
jamie, this daws thing is becoming an obsession.
Not much to be said that hasnt already said.
I would like to develop the point about on pitch leadership though;
Yesterday i saw bright young footballers in Chris Gunter, Gareth Bale & Fraze Campbell looking like they had the weight of the world on their shoulders.
Bale was the best of the 3 but appeared to lose heart early in the second half.
Gunter was taking up some cracking postions but his decisions and delivery were suffering due to what appeared to be sheer anxiety. He was rushing and looked flustered.
Campbell took Gunters issues to another level, he looked like his legs had gone to jelly and had no control over them.
To me thats when a leader is of paramount importance, to be fair Jenas worked as hard as ive seen anyone work as did Zokora but they are lacking in Targets up top and/or quality. I digress. Not one player seemingly put an arm round the young lads and "look son, no pressure, take it easy and play your game". In addition to this i saw nothing from the touch line either, instead what we ended up with was FC looking like a headless chicken, Bale losing interest and Gunter looking relieved to be subbed. Whats that all about? not their fault but about time somebody stuck their loaf above the parapet.
Its players and situations like this that arent helping our cause and exactly what makes us ripe for picking at the moment.
A captain is a captain regardless of whether or not he has an elastic armband to confirm it. Leadership skills are not being shown by a single member of that team, Woodgate included (fine player though he is) For example, Man Utd will have several players on the pitch at any one time who would be capable of captaining the side and the mere fact that they havent got an armband on does not stop them "captaining" the side or organising/motivating.
Time to stand up and be counted Tottenham. Stoke will smell the blood even that far up the M6 like a school of sharks.
Morning everyone. Bleak, bleak and more bleakness.
On the plus side as many have said Woodgate, as all season, looked huge and should be captain. Also he's far more comfortable in front of a camera than the painfully shy and softly spoken Led!
Corluka is class and the two will surely go on and form a formidable partnership.
For all my Bentley is carrying too much timber, he came on and shone I thought. Actual quality deliveries, admittedly there was no one to cross to but...
Modric is sllloooooowwwwllly improving and maybe it's dumb hope but I think he'll prove class, if we ever get some confidence.
I thought in the second half we played some really good football and the crowd were huge!
Hull's free kick would've beaten anyone...
Here is the thing for me though...Ramos is a good manager and I am in favour of keeping him and backing him for now, but as we all know sometimes a new face just gets a lift and change in fortunes... There is now a case to say that we could stick with the better manager in Ramos and potentialy go down?! Highly unlikely I know, but starting to not look impossible.
If we beat Stoke and Bolton, confidence will start flooding back and Ramos will be fine, but lose and the gap starts to open and then a horror run of four very losable games. By which point it'll virtually be too late...certainly for Ramos.
The difference with Derby, is that we are an unlucky and underperforming quality side with some world class players... they were just shit.
If it does come to it and the board(or the man from Delmonte as Sugar calls them!) say enough is enough, I would go for Roy Keane and could see him coming..fan etc. Let's all hope it doesn't come to that...
I am optimistic we can turn it around, but I'm also a realist and realise there will come a point...and a point's not good enough, we need three.
Long term we could do with guacomolli gone, but that isn't what gives the players a lift...
Reply to wayne:
Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to wayne:Reply to ToniMontana:Reply to wayne:Reply to ToniMontana:Agree about Zok and King and Woody for captain. I dont see any comment about Jenas so far, he was quite good yesterday but no surprise because it was due. Lets hope he play for England and get injured, knee ligament or broken ankle or something and out for months because thats the only way I can see...
good attitude to have - lets hope 1 of our players gets injured!!??
Because he is shit and will always be.... How long has he been in the club? 3-4 years? Thats a long time, and still no improvement! And to make it worse, he is the captain! What a waste of space. He is shit. End of.
thats your opinion which you are entitled too -however saying something like hope he gets injured is taking it too far imo.
Jenas to me is a good player however not good enough if we are looking to break into top 4.
However looking at our current squad he warrants a...Dawson........... We should have signed his brother!
Andy has played blinders against Arsenal and now us. Michael has just looked blind.when we signed him - i was excited - thought good one for the future.
im not saying start him but he def not a bad squad player.
corluka+woody good centre halfs with dawson as a back up.
Least no one will blame Comolli for Dawson lol
Me(Jenas), JS(Dawson) and JGM(Bentley) and it was Comolli woh signed them. So yes its Comolli to blame. Lets hope he crash his car or something like that.
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to HenryPercy:Reply to billybigspud:Reply to HenryPercy:Reply to Bimmi:look..Comolli's a pr*ck.. no point even talking about him.. just get rid of him..
here's my notes..
GOMES: (10)
even the best keeper in the league (which he is) wouldn't have saved that..
GUNTER: (5.5)
nothing..
WOODY: (10)
...I booed. I'm not a blind faith happy clappy numpty who thinks that we should hug that bunch of lazy useless bastards.
Gomes was quality.... most of the time.
Lennon.... Mistake taking him off
Bent... Mistake buying him
Pavlychenko... The russian Gary "Ginger Pele"...dance monkey dance. do you seriously think any of us are happy about the state we're in?. some of us are just a little bit more grown up about it. you want the team to stand up and be counted, but you're not prepared to do the same.
i've a feeling that carrier bag face is a regular thing in...Stand up and be counted??? I've done nothing but be ridiculed by wandering around with my beloved shirt on. BUT if you think I am cheering that shower of shite then you're going to be sorely disappointed.
What did you do after the game then? Cheer them for a hard earned loss?...henry,
i've avoided my local for the last week because of the p*sstaking. i'm not happy, and the cat's out the flap as soon as it hears me.i just fail to see how booing helps them, or makes you feel better.
i thought the performance yesterday was an improvement. their goal was one...
With all due respect, how has cheering them helped? As far as I am concerned, clapping them off at the end of the game is condoning it.
We lost the best strikeforce in the premiership, correct. But there are still players on that pitch who are payed an amount of money that I would cream in my pants to have and yet they still can't hit a barn door.
Please don't forget.... we've got over £25m worth of striker out there on that pitch... yet they stroll around (jenas just about week in week out), make lazy runs, lacklustre passing, poor tackles etc etc.
I applaud your optimism, I fear it is somewhat misguided.
No-one in their right mind would pick Hull as a better team than us on paper. The one thing that makes them better? Heart.... Pure unadulterated grit and determination to survive in the premier league. Technically less gifted than us.... but bags more drive and determination.
THAT's why I boo. Because IF they put as much effort in on the pitch as I do in my "pretend to kick and head it everytime we get it" moments then I am certain that we would grind out some results.
The fact is, these guys can swan about and then at the end of the season, when the team goes down, they fuck off to another club, citing "career progression" and "damaging to my international chances" as reasons to leave. When THEY are the reason a club goes down.
Oh... and me booing doesn't make me feel better... but the cat get's an easier ride when I get home....
Reply to Arsene:
Well done agent Commolli.
Your mission is nearly over.
Regards
Arsene
"Oh... and me booing doesn't make me feel better... but the cat get's an easier ride when I get home...."
Beastiality????? I wouldn't let the RSPCA see that one Henry.
Reply to jamiespurs:
"Oh... and me booing doesn't make me feel better... but the cat get's an easier ride when I get home...."
Beastiality????? I wouldn't let the RSPCA see that one Henry.
Are you telling me after all these years I've been chasing the wrong pussy?
Reply to ToniMontana:
Reply to wayne:Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to wayne:Reply to ToniMontana:Reply to wayne:Reply to ToniMontana:Agree about Zok and King and Woody for captain. I dont see any comment about Jenas so far, he was quite good yesterday but no surprise because it was due. Lets hope he play for England and get injured, knee ligament or broken ankle or something and out for months because thats the only way I can see...
good attitude to have - lets hope 1 of our players gets injured!!??
Because he is shit and will always be.... How long has he been in the club? 3-4 years? Thats a long time, and still no improvement! And to make it worse, he is the captain! What a waste of space. He is shit. End of.
thats your opinion which you are entitled too -however saying something like hope he gets injured is taking it too far imo.
Jenas to me is a good player however not good enough if we are looking to break into top 4.
However looking at our current squad he warrants a...Dawson........... We should have signed his brother!
Andy has played blinders against Arsenal and now us. Michael has just looked blind.when we signed him - i was excited - thought good one for the future.
im not saying start him but he def not a bad squad player.
corluka+woody good centre halfs with dawson as a back up.
Least no one will blame Comolli for Dawson lolMe(Jenas), JS(Dawson) and JGM(Bentley) and it was Comolli woh signed them. So yes its Comolli to blame. Lets hope he crash his car or something like that.
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Sorry i wasnt finished.
Modric and Dos Santos.
Poyet
Frazier for being a Utd Scummer. Send him back broke I say
Bent.
Watched the game yesterday and thought it was perhaps our best performance to date this season. Alright, the result didn't go our way but you can't but applaud their goal, it really was a sensational strike. We are getting there, maybe a bit too slowly, but at least we're getting there.
Bentley played well when he came on, gave them something new to think about and for nearly the first time in weeks we had balls coming in from the wings that gave an opposing defence problems.
Was dissappointed to see Lennon come off for Gio, thought one of the central midfielders would make way Mod/Jen/Zok although all 3 played ok. Mod still looks like he's getting to grips with it, gave away too much sloppy balls especially in the first half. Agree with most of the comments that Zok is by far our best DM to date. Not sure on Jenas, still seems to go missing through large parts of the game
Nobody is saying that all footballers aren't scum to a man, I wouldn't want to have a drink with any of them, but when I've invested money on season tickets, travel and not to mention an enormous amount of emotion, I think what is the best way to maximise Spurs chances of winning, because I'm a fan. Boo and create an atmosphere where they're scared to make a mistake and play or support, encourage then bitch like a girl on this website when it doesn't work out! Oh and by all means assault your cat, I'm a dog man....cue the jokes...
COME ON YOU MASSIVELY MALFUNCTIONING SPURS!!!
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Arshavin and Huntelaar.
Good God Above & Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ.
God to patrol in front of the back 4 and display his vision and creative passing game.
Jesus Left midfield for his pace ans sweet left foot.
Reply to ToniMontana:
Reply to wayne:Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to wayne:Reply to ToniMontana:Reply to wayne:Reply to ToniMontana:Agree about Zok and King and Woody for captain. I dont see any comment about Jenas so far, he was quite good yesterday but no surprise because it was due. Lets hope he play for England and get injured, knee ligament or broken ankle or something and out for months because thats the only way I can see...
good attitude to have - lets hope 1 of our players gets injured!!??
Because he is shit and will always be.... How long has he been in the club? 3-4 years? Thats a long time, and still no improvement! And to make it worse, he is the captain! What a waste of space. He is shit. End of.
thats your opinion which you are entitled too -however saying something like hope he gets injured is taking it too far imo.
Jenas to me is a good player however not good enough if we are looking to break into top 4.
However looking at our current squad he warrants a...Dawson........... We should have signed his brother!
Andy has played blinders against Arsenal and now us. Michael has just looked blind.when we signed him - i was excited - thought good one for the future.
im not saying start him but he def not a bad squad player.
corluka+woody good centre halfs with dawson as a back up.
Least no one will blame Comolli for Dawson lolMe(Jenas), JS(Dawson) and JGM(Bentley) and it was Comolli woh signed them. So yes its Comolli to blame. Lets hope he crash his car or something like that.
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comolli joined us in july 2005 - dawson joined in jan. so was not a comolli signing.
However Dawson is not a bad player at 4mill, if we were to sell him we would not loose any money - for 4 mill could we buy a better back up?
Jenas - 7 mill (with add ons) again there are better players out there but i believe again he is a good squad player (at moment should start as no better there) again if we got someone better - jenas is a good squad player. if we do sell him - we will not loose any money.
Bently - how can you judge bently with only so little of a season gone? bently imo was overpriced but that was due to the inflation of transfer market when we signed him. i think he will turn out good - but give him a chance.
Reply to Poshspur:
Nobody is saying that all footballers aren't scum to a man, I wouldn't want to have a drink with any of them, but when I've invested money on season tickets, travel and not to mention an enormous amount of emotion, I think what is the best way to maximise Spurs chances of winning, because I'm a fan....
that was meant to be a reply to HenryPercy!
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to jolsgonemental:Arshavin and Huntelaar.
Good God Above & Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ.
God to patrol in front of the back 4 and display his vision and creative passing game.
Jesus Left midfield for his pace ans sweet left foot.
I am talkign about players i would like to see seriously injured.
what are you talking about?
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to jolsgonemental:Arshavin and Huntelaar.
Good God Above & Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ.
God to patrol in front of the back 4 and display his vision and creative passing game.
Jesus Left midfield for his pace ans sweet left foot.
Jesus should challenge Gomes for a place in goal.
The main reason being; JESUS SAVES.
One drawback though; Jesus does have a habit of getting stuck on crosses!
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to ToniMontana:Reply to wayne:Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to wayne:Reply to ToniMontana:Reply to wayne:good attitude to have - lets hope 1 of our players gets injured!!??
Because he is shit and will always be.... How long has he been in the club? 3-4 years? Thats a long time, and still no improvement! And to make it worse, he is the captain! What a waste of space. He is shit. End of.
thats your opinion which you are entitled too -however saying something like hope he gets injured is taking it too far imo.
Jenas to me is a good player however not good enough if we are looking to break into top 4.
However looking at our current squad he warrants a...Dawson........... We should have signed his brother!
Andy has played blinders against Arsenal and now us. Michael has just looked blind.when we signed him - i was excited - thought good one for the future.
im not saying start him but he def not a bad squad player.
corluka+woody good centre halfs with dawson as a back up.
Least no one will blame Comolli for Dawson lolMe(Jenas), JS(Dawson) and JGM(Bentley) and it was Comolli woh signed them. So yes its Comolli to blame. Lets hope he crash his car or something like that.
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Sorry i wasnt finished.
Modric and Dos Santos.
Poyet
Frazier for being a Utd Scummer. Send him back broke I say
Bent.
Thats almost the whole team mate.
A bit too harsh about Modric and Gio tho, they needs time. But no complaints about Bent. How he scored 10+ goals for Charlton remains mystery. Maybe he scored hatrick against bottom three teams and some penalties. And dissapeared for the rest of games.
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to Grazza:Reply to jolsgonemental:Arshavin and Huntelaar.
Good God Above & Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ.
God to patrol in front of the back 4 and display his vision and creative passing game.
Jesus Left midfield for his pace ans sweet left foot.I am talkign about players i would like to see seriously injured.
what are you talking about?
You want to see Arshavin & Huntelaar injured?! harsh!
Im saying we need a miracle. Preferrably starting in those 2 positions.
i have to agree with many of your points. i wasn't advocating cheering them, since the performance didn't warrant that. i just didn't think it deserved booing either.
i have to agree the lesser skilled teams are all heart and effort. our problems are motivation, confidence and balance. big transfer fees and wages are not, on their own, great motivators. wendy has a share of the blame for failing to put out balanced teams of motivated players. the confidence will come from good performance.
i do understand your viewpoint and applaud your passion for the club, i just don't agree with the way you vent your frustration.
ps please stop riding the cat.
Reply to Poshspur:
Nobody is saying that all footballers aren't scum to a man, I wouldn't want to have a drink with any of them, but when I've invested money on season tickets, travel and not to mention an enormous amount of emotion, I think what is the best way to maximise Spurs chances of winning, because I'm a fan....
I only booed at fulltime and halftime... not during.
But I am going to boo the bastards at half and full time for every shite performance, until they a) Play like they actually give a toss or b) fuck off and hinder someoneelse's chances.
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Reply to Grazza:Reply to jolsgonemental:Arshavin and Huntelaar.
Good God Above & Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ.
God to patrol in front of the back 4 and display his vision and creative passing game.
Jesus Left midfield for his pace ans sweet left foot.I am talkign about players i would like to see seriously injured.
what are you talking about?
I thought it was you who screaming about signing Arshavin??
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to Grazza:Reply to jolsgonemental:Arshavin and Huntelaar.
Good God Above & Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ.
God to patrol in front of the back 4 and display his vision and creative passing game.
Jesus Left midfield for his pace ans sweet left foot.Jesus should challenge Gomes for a place in goal.
The main reason being; JESUS SAVES.
One drawback though; Jesus does have a habit of getting stuck on crosses!
jamie, do you write for basil brush boom boom?.
Reply to billybigspud:
i have to agree with many of your points. i wasn't advocating cheering them, since the performance didn't warrant that. i just didn't think it deserved booing either.
i have to agree the lesser skilled teams are all heart and effort. our problems are motivation, confidence and balance. big...
reply to henry percy
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to Grazza:Reply to jolsgonemental:Arshavin and Huntelaar.
Good God Above & Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ.
God to patrol in front of the back 4 and display his vision and creative passing game.
Jesus Left midfield for his pace ans sweet left foot.Jesus should challenge Gomes for a place in goal.
The main reason being; JESUS SAVES.
One drawback though; Jesus does have a habit of getting stuck on crosses!jamie, do you write for basil brush boom boom?.
Nope,
Cannon & Ball - BOOM BOOM!
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to billybigspud:Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to Grazza:Reply to jolsgonemental:Arshavin and Huntelaar.
Good God Above & Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ.
God to patrol in front of the back 4 and display his vision and creative passing game.
Jesus Left midfield for his pace ans sweet left foot.Jesus should challenge Gomes for a place in goal.
The main reason being; JESUS SAVES.
One drawback though; Jesus does have a habit of getting stuck on crosses!jamie, do you write for basil brush boom boom?.
Nope,
Cannon & Ball - BOOM BOOM!
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to billybigspud:Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to Grazza:Reply to jolsgonemental:Arshavin and Huntelaar.
Good God Above & Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ.
God to patrol in front of the back 4 and display his vision and creative passing game.
Jesus Left midfield for his pace ans sweet left foot.Jesus should challenge Gomes for a place in goal.
The main reason being; JESUS SAVES.
One drawback though; Jesus does have a habit of getting stuck on crosses!jamie, do you write for basil brush boom boom?.
Nope,
Cannon & Ball - BOOM BOOM!
Two elephants, one cliff. Boom Boom.
Reply to billybigspud:
i have to agree with many of your points. i wasn't advocating cheering them, since the performance didn't warrant that. i just didn't think it deserved booing either.
i have to agree the lesser skilled teams are all heart and effort. our problems are motivation, confidence and balance. big...
If someone can come up with an alternative I'm open to suggestions...
Oh and before some smartarse responds to this with "try riding a girl instead" I meant about the booing.
Reply to HenryPercy:
Reply to Poshspur:Nobody is saying that all footballers aren't scum to a man, I wouldn't want to have a drink with any of them, but when I've invested money on season tickets, travel and not to mention an enormous amount of emotion, I think what is the best way to maximise Spurs chances of winning, because I'm a fan....
I only booed at fulltime and halftime... not during.
But I am going to boo the bastards at half and full time for every shite performance, until they a) Play like they actually give a toss or b) fuck off and hinder someoneelse's chances.
Booing at full time is the only excusable/productive booing if you are dtermined to do it, but half time is just going to make them twitchy coming out second half. They are, mentally at least, children, and if I bollock my kids then say go out and perform to your maximum it'll never happen, if I encourage... it'll sometimes happen! I know some people think they should fucking take it, but I'd rather they won because of the fans not despite them.
Jesus is always seated at the right hand of the father.. Right wing maybe..
Reply to Poshspur:
Reply to HenryPercy:Reply to Poshspur:Nobody is saying that all footballers aren't scum to a man, I wouldn't want to have a drink with any of them, but when I've invested money on season tickets, travel and not to mention an enormous amount of emotion, I think what is the best way to maximise Spurs chances of winning, because I'm a fan....
I only booed at fulltime and halftime... not during.
But I am going to boo the bastards at half and full time for every shite performance, until they a) Play like they actually give a toss or b) fuck off and hinder someoneelse's chances.Booing at full time is the only excusable/productive booing if you are dtermined to do it, but half time is just going to make them twitchy coming out second half. They are, mentally at least, children, and if I bollock my kids then say go out and perform to your maximum it'll never happen, if I...
If you gave your kids £30k a week then you'd want a performance....
This isn't some Colts league or u15s... It's a man's game....
Unless of course you're an arsenal fan... In which case the u15s are your carling cup side.
Afternoon my fellow depressed brethren.
Don't know if any of you heard or care but on Talksport this morning Alan Brazil said he'd heard from someone inside the club (in the summer) that the players aren't huge fans of Ramos , or words to that effect.
I wasn't sure to take that to mean he's lost the dressing room?
If this is the case then he needs to go, before hearing this I was keen for him to say, now i'm not sure if I believe it or want him to stay!
Worrying times.
oh Zok v O'Hara debate - I agree that Zok has been one of our better players. I think his pace and energy give him the nod over JOH at the mo.
Can't even be bothered to reply to any digs, far too depressed!
Reply to HenryPercy:
Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to billybigspud:Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to Grazza:Reply to jolsgonemental:Arshavin and Huntelaar.
Good God Above & Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ.
God to patrol in front of the back 4 and display his vision and creative passing game.
Jesus Left midfield for his pace ans sweet left foot.Jesus should challenge Gomes for a place in goal.
The main reason being; JESUS SAVES.
One drawback though; Jesus does have a habit of getting stuck on crosses!jamie, do you write for basil brush boom boom?.
Nope,
Cannon & Ball - BOOM BOOM!Two elephants, one cliff. Boom Boom.
Two elephants & a symbal fall off a cliff -
Boom Boom Tishk (symbal noise)
p.s. Is that how you spell symbal??
Reply to HenryPercy:
Reply to billybigspud:i have to agree with many of your points. i wasn't advocating cheering them, since the performance didn't warrant that. i just didn't think it deserved booing either.
i have to agree the lesser skilled teams are all heart and effort. our problems are motivation, confidence and balance. big...If someone can come up with an alternative I'm open to suggestions...
Oh and before some smartarse responds to this with "try riding a girl instead" I meant about the booing.
i suggest a serious bout of productive booing lol.
Reply to Ginge1:
Afternoon my fellow depressed brethren.
Don't know if any of you heard or care but on Talksport this morning Alan Brazil said he'd heard from someone inside the club (in the summer) that the players aren't huge fans of Ramos , or words to that effect.
I wasn't sure to take...
Makes a mockery of the fact that that most of our recent signings cited Ramos as a major influence on their decisions to sign for us if true
Ramos needed sole control from day one and i dont think he's had it. He was undermined before he started and now it shows. Our only hope is that the situation isnt too far gone.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to HenryPercy:Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to billybigspud:Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to Grazza:Reply to jolsgonemental:Arshavin and Huntelaar.
Good God Above & Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ.
God to patrol in front of the back 4 and display his vision and creative passing game.
Jesus Left midfield for his pace ans sweet left foot.Jesus should challenge Gomes for a place in goal.
The main reason being; JESUS SAVES.
One drawback though; Jesus does have a habit of getting stuck on crosses!jamie, do you write for basil brush boom boom?.
Nope,
Cannon & Ball - BOOM BOOM!Two elephants, one cliff. Boom Boom.
Two elephants & a symbal fall off a cliff -
Boom Boom Tishk (symbal noise)
p.s. Is that how you spell symbal??
Well the smart answer is yes symbal is spelt s.y.m.b.a.l.... If you mean the percussion instrument that would be a cymbal.... c.y.m.b.a.l
If he's lost the dressing room that would explain why they haven't had a rocket up their arses at half time.... I mean it's bloody unprofessional to shout at someone in the corridor.... Couldn't Ramos have asked a steward where it was though?
Henry
Thankyou for letting me know that. I was for the purposes of the joke referring to a CYMBAL.
Moral of the story: Never be afraid to ask.
Reply to HenryPercy:
Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to HenryPercy:Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to billybigspud:Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to Grazza:Good God Above & Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ.
God to patrol in front of the back 4 and display his vision and creative passing game.
Jesus Left midfield for his pace ans sweet left foot.Jesus should challenge Gomes for a place in goal.
The main reason being; JESUS SAVES.
One drawback though; Jesus does have a habit of getting stuck on crosses!jamie, do you write for basil brush boom boom?.
Nope,
Cannon & Ball - BOOM BOOM!Two elephants, one cliff. Boom Boom.
Two elephants & a symbal fall off a cliff -
Boom Boom Tishk (symbal noise)
p.s. Is that how you spell symbal??Well the smart answer is yes symbal is spelt s.y.m.b.a.l.... If you mean the percussion instrument that would be a cymbal.... c.y.m.b.a.l
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actally it's spelt symbol s.y.m.b.o.l. to be absolutely arse-clenchingly pedantic.
Arshavin is a no-go for Spurs now, which makes the purchase of Pavlyuchenko Laughable as it was usrely supposed to be a Russian front two and not Pavs up front looking lost and alone.
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Now, I've heard rumours todays from Liverpool fans that they have it on good grounds that a deal is in place to take Bale to Liverpool in January for £10m plus a player??? Anyone heard these rumours or stories? Please tell me this is bullshit.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Henry
Thankyou for letting me know that. I was for the purposes of the joke referring to a CYMBAL.
Moral of the story: Never be afraid to ask.
Who would be careless enough to leave a cymbal near a cliff edge?
Pretty unrealistic that joke.... wasn't it?
tsk!
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to HenryPercy:Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to HenryPercy:Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to billybigspud:Reply to jamiespurs:Jesus should challenge Gomes for a place in goal.
The main reason being; JESUS SAVES.
One drawback though; Jesus does have a habit of getting stuck on crosses!jamie, do you write for basil brush boom boom?.
Nope,
Cannon & Ball - BOOM BOOM!Two elephants, one cliff. Boom Boom.
Two elephants & a symbal fall off a cliff -
Boom Boom Tishk (symbal noise)
p.s. Is that how you spell symbal??Well the smart answer is yes symbal is spelt s.y.m.b.a.l.... If you mean the percussion instrument that would be a cymbal.... c.y.m.b.a.l
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actally it's spelt symbol s.y.m.b.o.l. to be absolutely arse-clenchingly pedantic.
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Lets hope its not true, we need Arshavin badly. Get that fucking Comolli out now!
My cousin's friend's workmate knows someone who spoke to Comolli and he said that you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet
Nah, can't be true