More Bad News
Sunday, 28 June 09, 02:24 AM · Comments (173)
One of my favourite pieces of graffiti was in the kahzi of an independent bookies. The sign above the sistern had been 'doctored' thus, PLEASE DON'T THROW USED BETTING SLIPS YOURSELF DOWN THE TOILET.
What triggered that memory was a flick around various forums and message boards last night to discover that the name Sébastien Bassong is being touted as a done deal.
How much? Well, like everything else Citizen Ashley is selling I'd expect 75% off whatever it was originally.
If anyone has anything postitive to say, I'll willingly listen, but honestly, what in the name of Gerry Cottle's Circus is going on? Levy was supposed to be in Spain and we were fleetingly linked to Robben and Van Nistleroy. Now it's the relegation royalty that is Downing and Bassong.
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very sad news if it is true.
Dawson is way better the Bassong so where would he fit in anyway?
Downing is crap.
top 14 here we come.
Seems to be a done deal indeed if you believe what you read.
I'm beginning to think Levy was in Madrid purely for the purpose of meeting those Sevilla pricks and sorting the Ramos affair - nothing to do with players.
Although, if Allardyce is eyeign Ruud then surely we are too.
Phew you had me worried there. I thought you were going to announce that Bent was staying.
Get used to it. Bobblehead is not used to buying class. Bargain basement players and players at the end of their career is all he knows about. And if by chance he got a world class player he wouldn't know how to deal with him. Heather Mills would make a better manager, probably got better ball control as well!
I see the Arse theme continues
I don't see it as bad news at all.
Have a look at our squad and then identify the 2 most injury prone 'key' players....
The answer - Woodgate and King.
Dawson became something of a wonderboy last season his form was very impressive up until that ankle injury and you'd say he was an able back-up to someone like Woodgate. BUT..... we've got 0 back-up for King.
We could say "move charlie to CB" but then we have to play Hutton at RB which negates Lennon's pace and threat as he's worring about covering for an attacking RB behind him. It then ruins the team dynamic and takes away one of our most dangerous players.
The simple solution..... sign a pacey CB who's got PL experience (all be it 1 season), he's strong in the tackle and good in the air. He was easily NUFC's best player last season and in an underperforming joke of a team it's got to be hard to consitently raise your game when all around you are playing shit.
If he joins I see it as a shrewd bit of business. It gives us great cover in a key position (especially if Hudd and Zokora - our auxillary CB's are being sold this summer)
Remember the players we bought from a relegated club before - Robbo (went shit in the end but was brilliant for years) and Lennon who's our current player of the season
Reply to jamiespurs:
I take your point but this is like going down the tip, discovering a bike with a wheel that isn't buckled and not obviously punctured and yelling Eureka!
Serviceable yes, aspirational? No.
If it true, why are we already slagging the guy. Harry has a reputation of buying decent central defenders. Distin and ol Judas did not do badly for Portsmouth. Lets give the guy a chance. The price might also play a factor. If we pay around 7 million, it should be decent business.
Reply to jamiespurs:
dont forget defoe! and yes we have signed some good players from relgated teams but it has never seemed to take us where we wanna go. they might good players but they have never taken us to the next level, and i dont think bassong or downing for that matter will either
Reply to HarryHotspur:
We all knew that this summer wouldn't be about 'glory signings' leave that to dreamers like Man Citeh (how is Hughes going to fit in 10 midfielders, 10 strikers and 10 defenders into 1 side???)
This summer was all about buying players in to do a job. To make the squad stronger and address areas we've been weak in for years.
Spring window finally saw us buy a tough tackling CM in Wilson Palacios - He hasn't let us down.
I fully expect this summer to be one where we finally address the LW position, strengthen the CM area and buy in a striker to take Bent & Pavs place in the side.
I know I'd rather have a player join who'd improve the overall balance of the side and make us a stronger squad and unit than see us sign some 'glory boy' who cost over the odds and plays in a position we already have talent in.
Not to mention being sick to death of our over reliance on Ledley King! It's painful! We've got to get over this 'King plays we play well' idea and realise that he's probably got 2 seasons left in him (And that's with him being used sparingly) we need to replace him sooner rather than later and let the replacement bed into the side and gently phase out King.
Crazy C..I agree entirely..Heather Mills would be good..she could take her leg off and give Keane a smack round the head when he starts pointing and shouting..lol
Reply to onedavemackay:
It's taken years of work to keep that level of pertness up ODM.
And as we're on the theme, Bassong? Pants!
I would suggest that King will probably not be offered a new contract at the end of next season and we're looking to replace now before we get held over a barrel when we're desperate next season.
We all know King is crocked, and can just about turn up for half a (relatively unsuccessful) campaign - long cup runs are out of the question, and so is Europe for him.
Both Woody and Daws are injury prone.
We need a new CB.
Whether Bassong is that man we'll have to see. Hard to say as Newcastle were dire last season. He might be the one gem from a steaming pile of manure.
I'd be more upset if we bought a crocked Downing.
Or if we spunk too much on this chap.
Back from Turkey boys, looking liked a bronzed adonis! (or a ginger lobster!)
I don't think its a bad idea buying a player like Bassong, a pacy CB to replace King when he's not fit as Daws / Woody as a partnership is a bit slow. I also think piccking up bargains where you can is also a good idea. Relegated teams will be desperate to unload a couple of players so we get at a decent price, and one or two of their best would be welcome additions (Tuncay also from Boro is class). If we can get a couple of reasonably priced players with potential to be very good it allows us to gamble a bit more on someone like **** (add any of the Real dutch contingant) . All / any of those would be real coups but persuading players of that ilk to come to Spurs with our wage structure / lack of CL is going to be very tough.
Ultimately we have a pretty good defense so a back up CB is not someone I'm going to be too upset about, we need one. I'd rather we spent big, big money on a class CF or two and a LW. If we sign Bassong, Downing but also manage a RVN / KJH / VDV I'll be happy. What I don't want is nothing but squad additions I want to be wowed a la Ossie & Ricky, Jurgen & Gica etc
COYS
ps JS - good to see you back!
Reply to billy:
and don't forget carrick either - look at what he is doing now, think i saw him in the champions league final ...
It is about keeping hold of our best players and bringing in a mix of young talent and experienced players.
We have stars like Modric, Palacios, Lennon, Keane and Defoe we need to keep the workers we have and add to that.
We have the basis for a solid performance next season.
We really only need:
Someone with pace and a decent cross from the left (which, may i say, IS downing if he comes in cheap enough)
A forward that can actually win a header and hold up the ball.
Some back up for our defence. Both FBs and a CB
5 players in total if we are losing one of our forwards which probably wouldn't cost us the earth.
Would be nice to see us keep the talented youngsters such as Bale, Hudd, O'Hara and Gunter but I could see them being sold to finance the players we need to add balance.
Keep Bale - People need to remember how great he was before his injury problems and the fact he's still 19!
Gunter - I'm not so sure. He's a steady eddie but he needs to develop (send him out on loan for a season)
Hudd - I'm bored of his flattering to deceive and his seemingly AWOL approach to 2nd half of games. Someone needs to tell him that 5 sublime passes doesn't exempt you from running, tackling or generally putting in effort.
O'Hara - I love him because he's one of us. Cut him open and he bleeds white and blue. BUT he's not what we need to push us on.
Let's be honest, most of us know frig all about him other than the deluded vowel mangling bare-back penguins of the north voted him player of the season. To be frank, Palacios hadn't been on my shopping list until HR nipped into the Wigan co-op for a bottle of Spumante and a tough tackling CM. Let's hope the big man is as shrewd a buy.
I think this is a better move than if we were to buy Down(s)ing.
Bassong actually managed to raise his game in a wanky Newcastle side; whereas Downing just hid in the background and let Middlesbrough go down with a whimper. SB managed to look quite impressive.
He seems to be highly regarded in the game and he's still young. Good cover, if not a first teamer in-waiting.
As long as he doesn't buy Downing too, this could be a decent signing.
LINK
And I'm still DREAMING of us getting Robben!
Reply to Jim:
You forgot the replacement for Jenas.
If this is to be believed LINK ,it doesn't look like it will happen.
Reply to Ginge1:
Yes you are.
I still think it will be Downing Distan and Jones.
Which wouldn't be to bad, people forget or they take Defoe for granted, he looks super sharp and loves playing for us, seems to link play a bit better than he used to.
Downing wouldn't be to bad, he would give us balance and has probably gone a little stale at Boro, a new club plus Arry's charm may bring him up a level or 4.
Heinze would be a good signing to, whether we can attract players like him with no European football is another thing.
Put it this way if we have to start with what we had last year minus a midfielder or two would it really be that bad.
LINK
This goes deeper than just bassong. Fees have gone nuts - but so have wages!!
We have a lot of players from relegated clubs -
Bent
Keane
defoe
woodgate and im sure there is more. Each player that has tasted relegation cant be good for a club. No more relegated players please
tell me if i`m wrong but i thought this summer was supposed to be about buying players who have been proven at the highest level?
i dont think that either downing or bassong have consistently performed at the highest level are they better than what we have already?
at the current rate harry is going to put sandra on the left and louise can provide back up for leds!
Lee
We never bought
Keane or Woodgate from a club that had just been relegated. Leeds were still in the PL when Keane signed and Boro were in the PL when Woody signed for us.
Players we've signed from a club that had just been recently relegated are Defoe, Carrick, Robbo & Lennon.
All successful signings IMO.
I've noticed there's still LOADS of Redknapp bashers on here. I mean will you lot NEVER be happy? The bloke turned round our season, got us to the final of a domestic trophy, signed Wilson Palacios, got more games out of King than he's played in the last 3 years or so, bought JD back to the lane, got Gomes back to his best form and has made us a steady team in defence that actually beat a 90 year old record for clean sheets at WHL.
What more fo you want the bloke to do in the course of 6 months???
We had a look in Harrod's decided to shop in Primark.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Woodgate injury prone? he has played near enough every game since he joined us i am sure of it. but agreed we need a back-up for king. dawson is doing well as woody's back-up. but maybe think about a back-up for the back-ups as well?
Reply to jamiespurs:
Should've left Keane with the dippers and put the money towards a decent player to partner Palacios.
Fair play to the bloke for getting Palacios, but he'll be judged on what happens this season.
I do not understand why everyone is stressing, Darren Bent will go, along with Zokora and a few other liabilities to help fund for a world class striker, and a left winger. This is all gossip, year after year I always seem to find myself on a blog, listening to this rubbish. We will be alright, we actually have a really good side now, in all aspects of our game. We can hold on to results, we are strong in midfield, we can dictate play; and even finish off teams. Remain positive people, we need to have faith. Lets just see what happens..
Reply to jamiespurs:
jamiespurs,
surely if we all felt the same it would be pretty pointless posting?
redknapp has had a good start to his time at spurs but he is not our future we made a mistake appointing him, he himself said that he is only likely to be around for another 3-4 years.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Those Redknapp knocking 'einsteins' expect him to have got us in the top 4, won the fa cup, the european cup, breeders cup and the ashes. They also fail to offer any alternative intelligent options when asked to suggest a better available manager for the club.
He's a c*nt in their eyes regardless of how much we've improved since his arrival and they show little respect to a man who stopped us falling into the championship.
I find their delusional ramblings tiresome and begin to understand why opposing fans dislike us so much. I'd like to put supporters like them in with the away fans - it's where they belong.
Alex
Before Woody joined us how many games did he string together at Real Madrid or NUFC? Not many and there's still always a fear that when he goes off injured it could be a long term one. Dawson isn't quite good enough yet to be the lead CB in the back 4 so we need someone with pace to cover for King.
TMWNN
So you don't credit him for steering us away from relegation to the cusp of european qualification (i'm quite pleased we didn't get the Europa League, what a shit competition it is) OR getting Gomes to look like a very good GK? or getting the best out of Lennon & Modric? or actually making us look like we can defend??
He's obviously done nothing in his short spell as manager has he?
Good afternoon H, I've just ad word that the Bassong deal is dead, Apparently we ain't matched e's wage demands, I'll keep bods posted if i hear anything else but fingers crossed......f@ck the relegation rejects!!
COYS!
Banbury yid
Of course if we all felt the same there'd be no point posting.
HOWEVER....... it's usually helpful if both sides of the argument actually have a sane, rational argument to run with.
Bassong is a monster
Please let this be true.
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I don't see why we need a left winger at all, when we have five players at the club that can do the job admirably.
1. BAE. He was probably our most improved player of the year last year. Admittedly, he looked a bit like bambi on ice at the begining of the year, but by the last couple of months of the season, I would say he was arguably on of the better left backs in the prem. If he stays fit, this coming season will be a big one for him. Comolli signing come good??
2. Bale. Bit of an enigma. Combination of loss of confidence after a nasty injury (scared to get stuck in again?) and lots of cash in his pocket to spend in London. I think he is better than BAE in both the defending and attacking aspects of the game and hopefully a good preseaon from him will see this come to fruition.
3. J2S. Personally, I think this guy was initially signed as our answer to the left wing, but like Bale and BAE, failed to acclimatise in time then suffered a nasty injury. Gio's problem was that he was still injured when the new regime came in, but had got his party hat on in China Whites. Therefore a combination of falling out of various clubs and taxis, and not being able to show his worth on the training pitch has dropped in right down in Harry's estimation. Hopefully, Harry will give him a chance to look at him in preseason in some proper games and will change his mind, because I think this guy can be absolute class for us. Afterall, Harry seems to have shown infinite patience with the likes of Keane and Jenas; why not Gio?
Those three are what most would consider our three main left siders (Modders excluded), but we a couple left.
4. Danny Rose. This lad has pace to burn, and doesn't seen to have lost much after that bad injury he had last year. Didn't do too bad at Watford, and has had arguably more sucess for the U21's where he has three assists in two run outs. But the bare faced truth is that he out an out and out left winger, who should be nutured into the 1st XI
Reply to jamiespurs:
jamiespurs,
in fairness to mr redknapp and the tottenham hierachy i believe that the contingency plan is that Redknapp jr takes over from his old man when he decides to call it a day.
which imho would be a good move.
and i also believe that Harry can take the club forward for however long he stays at the club he is a good manager although ....
i question some of the decisions regarding transfers PSB for one and the rumblings about decent young players being moved on...
5. Andros Townsend. Ive watched this lad a couple of times now, and he is a very decent prospoect. Made quite a few appearances when on loan at Torquay with obika, and made several assists and scoring one goal i think. Will be a toss up between him and rose. Will just depend who wants it the most.
Personally, I think we have the resources at the club to solve the left wing problem. We could save a hell a lot of money by working with what we have, as the first three players out lined are by no means poor players; afterall, we have reportedly 9 or 10 coaches at the club. Surely on of them is able to work with a winger
king yid
i agree totally
centre of defence is exactly the same with charlie providing cover although the plan may be for him to move into dm position which is arguably his best position.
we should only be buying players if they can significantly improve the team.
bassong and downing dont meet that criteria.
Banbury
What young players being moved on are you speaking about? J2S? Taraabt?
We've got a brilliant academy side at the moment and Redknapp is wanting to bring them through at pace, hence the club pulling out of the PL reserve & academy league so I think to say Redknapp's against promising youngsters being bought into the senior side is a bit harsh isn't it?
King Yid - BAE IS NOT A LW!
The other lot are good ideas but definitely not ready for the PL yet.
I'm going to dispell a few myths going on here.
1. Redknapp only signs old players nearing the end and wouldnt know what o do with a world class player? - Right, Defoe, Diarra, Kranjcar, Johnson - all yound and excelled under Harry at Pompey
2. Woodgate is injury prone? Correct that to 'was'. I think he played in 34 league games last year, plus cup games, so thats that out the window.
And fuck all you Redknapp knockers - catch yourself on. What more could he possibly have done for us last season? You're knowing his Spurs summer signings already and he hasnt signed anyone. You are all complete tossers. Give the guy a chance - not that he even needs a chance yet, he's doing a fucking sterling job.
Reply to King Yid:
that makes four
But Townsend is way behind the others IMO !!!! and Robben is way in front along with Joe Cole
Reply to RJ1882:
What has done with Bentley, Bostock, Bent and Pavlova the list goes on. As far as I`m concerned he has done the job he was brought in to do, and he now has one season to get us into the top 4. Do not kid yourself on that he is the way forward he is the the two ends and the middle of a cunt and don't forget it
Reply to King Yid:
It definitely wasnt Torquay where they were both on loan - I think it was Yeovil
Rose looks a better propect than Townsend from what I've seen, and maybe deserves a chance.
I say go with Bale on LW, he can move back into defense in a few years if needs be. Just get him over this curse he has and then get him playing.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Just because I refuse to sail on the Redknapp love boat at this moment in time, doesn't mean I hate the bloke or that I can't recognise that he did an excellent job of massaging the players' fragile egos and making them into a half decent outfit.
This came up the other day, and some people were already handing him the keys to Haringey: 'Must stay for at least 5 years';'In Harry we trust' etc.
Like I said, I'll judge him during and after this up and coming season.
Untill then, happy sailing.
I'm with jamiespurs on the Bassong rumblings. Not a world beater yet, but we're talking about picking up our 3rd or 4th choice center half here. He doesn't need to be the finished article.
He is young, pacey, and reasonably skilled, though, and managed not to embarrass himself while playing in the midst of some miserable colleagues at the back. I'd imagine that playing in a more capable defense and hopefully learning few of the finer points (not pints) from Ledley over the next season or two would help him progress immeasurably.
If he can be acquired for a reasonable fee and is realistic about his wage demands, I like the idea. Good cover with the potential to develop into a first choice player as Ledley winds down his playing career.
Those muppets in the press believe that Spurs are interested in signing Obafemi Martins. Do they think that Harry is Snow White, Hiiii Ho.
Reply to Longwell:
Fuck me we have to get cover for King, his Knee`s are held together with blue tack
"(how is Hughes going to fit in 10 midfielders, 10 strikers and 10 defenders into 1 side???) "
The same way clubs like Real, Man Utd and Chelsea have
Do not fall into the game killing trap of thinking only those clubs have the right to sign top players.
harry will sort spurs out
Reply to TehTrunk:
Thank you for sharing, Mrs Bassong
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
you do have a foul mouth for a lady, change the record ffs
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Do you think Bassong could be that cover? He's nowhere near as good as Ledley obviously, but here's the trouble with holding out for a top class CB as cover: anyone that good deserves to play every weekend and won't be satisfied caddying for Ledley while waiting for an opportunity borne of injury to one or both of him and Woody.
Reply to dancingbarber:
In terms of technical ability, you would be right. But between him and Rose,Townsend has greater first team experience, albeit at Torquay.
I wouldn't take Robben or Cole, simply because I don't think the motivation would be there. Robben and Cole have both won trophies in england, so what would they be playing for? Niether are the type of player to get stuck in grind out a result. I f I had to pick between the two, I'd take Cole over Robben, due to the Redknapp connection, but if we signed Robben, we'd just have another Chimbonda on our hands.
I think the key to the left hand problem is to go with a pair (personal preference of Bale and Gio) at stick with them as far as possible. The only way they are going to come good is if a bit of faith is shown in them. It's no use them spending extra time doing one to one coaching with Kevin Bond (Bale) if they are not going to get the playing time to use it.
I still get the niggling feeling that BAE will want to move on, therefore Bale and Gio would be my first choice left hand side, with Rose (or Taarabt if he ever comes back) as back up winger.
Yuri Berchice may be a decent back up LB should BAe move on, but only got to see him once against Coventry U18s a couple of years ago, and wasn't too impresed back then.
First team next year;
Gomes
Hutton
King
Woodgate
Bale
Lennon
Palacios
Modric
Gio dos Santos
Defoe
???
The money needs to be spent bringing in a top class target man. We are largly the same team as when Berbatov left. If we had last season's defence with Berbatov and Keane together for a third year, we would certainly be in Europe, possibly CL and would have retained the League Cup.
Look at things this way. Our points per game for the 30 games with HR a boss was approx 1.6 per game. Pro rata that over 38 games and we would have had around 60 points.
Spend the money on a target man like Huntelaar (please!!) or Crouch (probable) and that could easily be closer to 70
Reply to RJ1882:
You're right. My apologies, but I knew it was one of the carrot cruchers!
Reply to jfdit:
I`m sorry old chap, but I think you will agree it was a wonderful description. He has this season to break the top 4, Levy does`nt do bullshit
Reply to Longwell:
He looked not a bad player last season, but I suppose Jason Dozzell would look good in that side. Any word on when `Arry will be bringing Joseph Barton to the Lane, that will be the deal to get us all drooling. I always rated Ferdinand till this LINK
Sources close to Bassong:
"He wouldn't be looking for fortunes, just the going rate for a player who proved himself in a relegated team last season."
so £4.50 a week and a packet of Bensons then?
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Whilst I agree we need to move forward, setting unrealistic targets for both the team & 'arry doesn't help us as a club.
Most reasonable spurs fans accept that we needed a manager who when up against the toxic 4 clubs could compete tactically & win games. In 'arry we tick that box.
Next step is to win those games against the bottom half teams we keep losing to. We do that and we'll be top 6.
Levy needs to realise that the stakes & wagers have risen in the top 5 race - expecting a top 4 position without spending similar sums as the current incumbents & citeh is an unrealistic objective
there are only 7 positions that matter in the premier league
top 4 and bottom 3.
6th, 12th, 16th etc etc. all the same - fucking nowhere.
To aim for top 6 is to aim for nothing at all. To go from 6th to top 4 will be just as challenging as going from 15th to top 4, There is no 'ladder'.
Shitty making it a top 5 is actually beneficial as it means that there are 5 teams taking points from each other.
Reply to jolsgonemental:
top 6 gets us european football - not the greatest competition agreed.
Until we get an owner with similar ambition as the 'new top 5' owners what more can we expect?
As you say "bring on the arabs"
Reply to jfdit:
Hughes wont be in his job come christmas, Redknapp has to deliver this season no flannel. His time is now, not in five years time. I`m listning to that shite about Spurs for as long as I can remember
Reply to jfdit:
No point getting into Europe if you send out second string sides, it is just the same as the League you have to be in it to win it
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Sorry N the G I have to disagree, the players he's bringing in at citeh look alright in my book (eto deal on the table as we speak)
They will improve their away form and look to push on.
I can't be arsed with another 5 year plan either - it's all we've heard since Sugar took over in 1991. Always jam tomorrow - fuck that I want jam today with cream.
Unless we up our game transfer wise we'll carry on being a top half mid table shit team who has an occasional cup run.
Signing the likes of downing makes me depressed - bale is a better player by far.
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
totally agreed - I was highly critical of that decision at the time but in the alternative what is the point of having a squad if you don't use it.
Another view would be the squad players are just not good enough and maybe should be moved on?
Reply to Daveyboy:
I thought they'd stopped selling 10's
Reply to HarryHotspur:
That's the real reason Levy was in Spain last week....Stocking up on cheap smokes!
I think too many people assume that Citeh will challenge the top four when there is no historical evidence to back that up. They have a potentially good manager and they are buying some expensive players but that does not guarantee success.
That also assumes that they will play better than Villa and Everton and of course us. As we would have finished 5th had the Prem started after October 25th then logic would suggest that one or two decent signings should improve our performance.
Regarding the lack of activity in the transfer market I think this is just in comparison to the Commolli era. The ever so round Frenchman treated the transfer market like a Woolworth's pick and mix if someone was available he was interested. He never quite grasped the fact that a prerequisite of a professional footballer was talent not availability.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
H, this bassong guy is he really shit?
Last season newcastle on the telly normally resulted in the off switch so I can't offer an opinion on him.
Reply to jfdit:
I am no expert, rather working on the basis that if he's in a side that went down, it would be probable that he is in some way culpable.
Jamiespurs makes the point that if surrounded by poo, it would've been difficult for him to make a real difference.
Yet I believe that this guy is another Duff. Did have some talent (his CV is quite tidy) but lacks ambition and 'that' spark.
I mean, for f*cksake, the guy is facing a season Probably more) in the Championship and if the piece this morning is true the **** is stil whining about money.
Liverpool, Chelsea and Man Utd defenders can whime about money. They are an integral part of consistently successful sides.
This twonk needs a reality check. His stock and that of every player about him up there has plummeted. And if any of them think that a business owned by Mike Ashley is going to be indulge them now they, those brave and bonny barcoded burks, that have driven that business into the toilet, they need to wake up. And fast.
And Downing's as bad. If had done his job better maybe, just maybe someone could have got on the end of this young pretender's 'magical,killer crosses' and they wouldn't be visiting a variety of new grounds next time out.
No, I am sure there are exceptions to the rule, but you do not pick up the sort of players who will 'make a difference' in fire sales.
Tottenham need to stop fannying around with nearly men, bite the bullet and ship in some finished articles who won't take us for a ride.
Reply to onedavemackay:
You are so right as you always are apart from Bent. Citeh are and always will be shite, and if `Arry does not finish above them we will be worse than shite
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Do they still sell singles next to comprehensive schools?
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Your desciption of Duff sounds like Huddlestone
"Tottenham need to stop fannying around with nearly men, bite the bullet and ship in some finished articles who won't take us for a ride."
Amen
reading the piece about the newcastle fancy dan turning us down becaue of wages made me laugh.
According to the article Keith Harris is in charge of selling the club
How the mighty have fallen
Also,
Is there any mileage in the posibility that ledley will play holding midfield with the sarge in away games only? Rested at home and whilst everybody hates playing us at the lane, we get turned over away by everybody.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Harold. You make some surprisingly good points for a Sunday afternoon.
The big puzzle is this:
Keegan apparently picked up Bassong for 1.5 million from Metz. If he had been anything half decent then he would have cost a lot more.
If he was a little gem that everyone else had missed he would have stood out in Newcastle's defence. Just imagine if Michael Dawson had been playing for the Geordies, he would be mentioned in dispatches every game.
Since he hasn't been grabbing headlines and plaudits what has changed ? And if nothing has changed why do we want him ?
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Lennon was immense, Bentley can't get a game he's not needed, ta ta. Bostock is about 18 FFS!!!! He's had a few run outs for the first team. Bent - he scored 17 goals with very little ablity. Pavlova - cannot speak English, has played 2 years of solid footy.
So in 6 months he has done nothing? In my eyes he's done everything I'd hoped and more (such as signing Wilson, at the time I thought what the f***! but now see it as our best signing in years).
As for somebody saying he's only got 4 or 5 years with us at most. How many managers last that long at a club (especially our club?) not many.
Sigh!
Sigh again!!!
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Bent ?
Reply to jolsgonemental:
I agree, however I still think if we ended the coming season in 5th we may look like a side on the up and with a greater chance of buying the real class that we need to get in the CL.
Perhaps we should stop for a momment and consider the notion that this player may not even want to join a club such as ours. Frying pans and fires comes to mind.
Reply to onedavemackay:
And look what happened to Woolworth's!
Reply to onedavemackay:
If you are talking about a club receiving and using a massive cash injection (at a given time in history, and in perspective) in order to try and buy the title there is plenty of evidence to back that concept up in the last 15 years.
Blackburn Rovers. Title.
Newcastle Utd. R/Up.
Chelsea. Titles, now established Top/Big 4 team.
Now Blackburn and particularly Newcastle would be considered "long term" fails. Chelsea, operating at a consistent financial loss. Are they successful?
So, it does stand to reason that Citeh will challenge the Top 4. Whether they establish a position within/amongst it for a prolonged period may be questionable. Are you being season specific here? Do you not think it is inevitable that they HAVE overtaken us in the status department, for attraction factor (to other players)? For wage and footballing reasons.
Regarding the lack of activity, see above. Also, see no-one going yet. See Tottenham's desire to maintain "business model". See large fee/wage demands (either way).
ODM, you yourself the other day said "Huntelaar seems to be off somewhere, he's probably in the same sort of league as Pav". If that's the case, why don't we just keep Pav?!
It seems as if we are determined to cut our noses off to spite our faces, by (eventually) selling good players (Bent/Pav) at cut prices to facilitate purchasing of the likes of crock (of shite) Stewart Downing for inflated prices.
We do need someone better than JJ to partner Wilson. And JJ/Keane can go. They are not, and cannot be our future. In the meantime there are constant reports of us selling Taarabt, Dos Santos. Shit, I'd rather we loan them out again than sell either of them.
But hey, what do we know? We're only fans.
Apologies if this has been said, but just wanted to vent my frustration at Levy seemingly holding for unrealistic transfer fees (Bent, Zakora).
What happens when you hold out too long for an extra million or two? There's no time to bring in the manager's targets and you end up with Fraizer Campbell on loan. And I do mean Fraizer Campbell specifically. Though no offence is meant to the lad.
Reply to Gazza's Doctor:
You obviously aren't a proper Spurs supporter
Reply to Gazza's Doctor:
turd - back to your own arseblog please
Reply to Ginge1:
LINK%C3%A0bregas andLINK these chaps seem to be able to hold down first team places at their clubs at the age of 18. We have a youth team full of talent who never make the grade, we can all look forward to this arriving next seasonLINK at least he has his A levels
Reply to HarryHotspur:
If you were the finished article why would you come to Spurs if it wasn't to take us for a ride?
That's the big problem, to get CL quality you need to offer CL football. The only exception is if you offer shed loads of cash, but then you are getting a mercenary who is potential just coming for the cash and thus taking us for a ride.
Look at City, one world class player (Robinho) how well did he play away from home? Absolute f'in gash, cos he couldn't be arsed and he didn't really want to go to City. Eto'o will probably be the same if he goes. Tevez might on the other hand be ok, but he looks like a good Paul Dickov, in that his game is all about running around a lot and putting in effort without having real world class ablity - which is why Manure didn't want him.
Reply to onedavemackay:
Applying the same logic.
Bruce apparently picked up Palacios for £770,000 from Deportivo Olimpia. If he had been anything half decent then he would have cost a lot more
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
what you just said (only i'd have done it by going more round the houses, boring the pants of peope)
Reply to Ginge1:
At least I only bored the pants of peope, and not people
Reply to onedavemackay:
Just a cynical one this summer, once bitten an' all that !!! COYS
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
I am afraid the history of football is littered with failed teams who tried to buy success and I'm boring enough without listing them here but you might consider Real Madrid over the last few years and Chelsea are not a classic example as the spine of the team was more or less in place when Abrahamovitch arrived.
Are Citeh more attractive to other players than us? Apart from the money I'm not sure there's much in it there not in Europe and where would most people want to live Manchester or London ?
I think we should keep Pav buy Huntelaar and get rid of Bent.
As regards who comes and goes I still think that's one of Arry's strengths and have confidence he'll get most of it right.
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
Exactly
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
You forgot to link Rooney or Owen. I remember watching Cesc play for the Woolwich Wanderers and thinking how f'in good he looked, he was also touted as being one of the stars of the U17 WC a few years back. Bostock might be good (I hope he is)but I've seen him play for Spurs' 1st XI and he looked ok. He played a lot for Palace, he looked pretty good, he was not their best player. Ashley Cole went to Palace at about that age on loan and was the best player on the pitch every game he played (according to three season ticket holders I know) they tried to buy him after about 6 games and Arse didn't want to know.
I'm sure we all remember Rooney playing for Everton, he was a star from the off. I'm afraid Mr Bostock is not and will never be in the same brakcet as Cesc, Iniesta, Rooney or even Cashley Cole. He may turn out to be a very good international player. But in my eyes the very, very best get a chance and take it. Bostock looked ok.
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
do you not know peope then?
Hmm. Manchester, sprawling big city, cosmopolitan, plenty to do. Or London. Bigger city, cosmopolitan, plenty to do. Both have rough parts. You live on the outskirts anyway if you're a footballer. It's so obvious.
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
We have less smog and traffic in Manchester though!
Reply to onedavemackay:
It's amazing what focuses one's mind.
Spot on in relation to Basseysthong. This 'but all the others weighed him down' business (no disrespect whatsover JS) doesn't add up.
Or how would you have the scenario whereby the Man Of The Match is on occasionally on the losing team.
Those gilt edged drifters and chancers up there got found out this season. Properly found out and properly relegated.
All clubs, not just ours need to look within their ranks and determine if there is a cancer lurking.
I say this much, he hasn't got enough talent, but if an when Jamie O'Hara joins Fulham, he'll show up every week and give it socks.
Same when Steed left, he was another bloke, as of course was Tainio who wasn't just in it for the lolly.
Cast out the moneygrabbers! Unfortunately that would probably leave us with just about enough players in the entire Premiership to comprise four teams.
Oh well.
all these clubs being taken over is not good for the game, they were in bad financial trouble, and got bought on the cheap by the arabs, to become the next big thing, (yeah right) but look at this scenario, there are possibly going to be only 3 cl places soon, because uefa thinks we have one place too many, so then what when these moneymen dont get what they want, instant success and cl football, what will they do then, spend another shed load of cash on more players, i dont think they will waste more and more money continuously, and what then they will go onto different pastures , and the club they leave, will have to find the money for their stars wages, which they wont have, and then they will go into administration, short lived glory eh, some of these clubs fans better beware, because theyre enjoying it now, but what about later, when they have no club to support, and that is so bad for the game in general, they cant all win cl football, but they dont realise this, so be it.
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Get a fucking grip. Bostock, who is 17, has yet to demonstrate that he will be as good as two of the best players in the world? Let's kick him to the curb, then. He's obviously shit.
Reply to onedavemackay:
if city are throwing 100m at it every season and buying players of the Eto, Tevez level, they WILL be challenging the top 4.
we are looking at Bassong, Jones, Cattermole and Downing etc...players who failed to shine at loser clubs, they are looking at 2 of the star turns at the teams that contested the CL final.
Hard as it is to take, they are without fail a far more attracive and likely destinations for anyone wanting potential champions league AND stupid money.
I cant see us getting Huntelaar, Robben, RVN or these proper players that we are linked with.
Reply to Longwell:
So our youth system should be done away with, any young player with any talent should look anywhere but White Heart Lane to become a footballer. Grim
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
look at 'arry's record with young players - second to none
Ferdinand, Cole, Carrick, Defoe, Johnson ................
Fact is our young players are either not good enough or too busy getting pissed in the west end. Bostock is one who may make the grade but from what I've seen of comolli's acquisitions we'll be waiting a while for the next fabregas
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Longwell, you and I are discussing a point here but I don't think we're actually understanding what's being said.
You mentioned Arry hadn't done anything with Bostock. I was saying that he gave him a couple of run outs as a 17 / 18 year old. You then mentioned that Cesc / Iniesta etc were playing at that age. In response I'd say Bostock isn't in their class, however will hopefully be very, very good. Only a few select players get to play regularly at the top level at 18. For us to make the CL I think our youth will be all important. Lennon got a chance at 18 because of injury and he took it with both hands. If Bostock would have played like Iniesta on his few appearances he would have stayed in the team. However he didn't so he'll have to wait for more chances. I'm sure Arry wasn't shy about giving youngsters a chance when he was at the spammers so hopefully the likes of Bostock, Rose, Parrett, Obika, Townsend and Caulker will all get to show they're worth.
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Tevez is above average, not great. He works hard and has a decent touch. If he was that good Utd wouldn't have let him go, as it was they didn't think he was worth £26m.
City are buying egotistical forward players (African & South American ones at that) lets see how well they play in a team that isn't winning things and they are still not playing every week (Tevez, Cruz, Eto'o along with the recently signed Bellamy).
Still thing they'll be 5th at best next year.
I can't see us getting any of the real lot either (more's the pity).
Reply to Ginge1:
Ginge, I agree 100%. I think my sarcasm was too subtle. Also, I wasn't the one who mentioned the Spainards; that was Nick.
I think we have an excellent youth side, and they deserve some chances to blood in over the next couple seasons. That said, despite how well they've performed of late, we'll still be very fortunate if even one or two of them become first team regulars, let alone a world class star like an Iniesta or that ilk.
Nick seemed to be suggesting that because Bostock hasn't beaten down the door as quickly as a couple of the best players in the game did, then he never will. I couldn't disagree with that more.
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Have to say, until Levy goes 'ta daah' and reveals some one supersonic I fear you're right.
Reply to cobra:
You are on the right track there. Sooner or later the money will reduce and many teams will be left high and dry.
I cannot believe what I'm reading here. Its clear that the majority of people barely watched any Newcastle games last year & are basing their opinions on Bassong on the fact that they were relegated. I watched quite a few games & he was very, very good & had potential top be even better. Let's get this straight, Arsene was desperate for him also until he signed Vermaelen instead. Bassong is very quick & very strong, he's tall, good in the air & with the ball at his feet. Most importantly perhaps, he is only 22 & plays with a lot of maturity. Whichever team he ends up with next season, they will be lucky to have him. I agree he's no superstar name (yet) but he has every chance of becoming one. Think of a superstar CB back in the modern game & then think of them at 22, probably performing very well but not considered a big name. Bassong has the attributes to become the next Ledley.
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Interesting you say City will with continuous dosh be challenging the big four but will they break in? I stand with my previous comment City may make it but money can only get you so far. For me the coach is still king.
The Goons don't buy many Robinios or Etos etc and they contested the CL Final a couple of years back.
If Moyes can do what he's done at Everton with a small budget think what he might do with our spending power. Not that I want his style of play.
I read the links with Bassong, Cattermole etc but I've also read stories linking us to Huntelaar, Robben, Van Nistleroy and even Tevez and as unlikely as they seem are they any more unlikely than most of the rumours we're fed ?
I'm as aprehensive as the next man, but I do believe we have to be positive and patient. I do feel that with Rednapp's history in the transfer market and the mistakes that were (obviously and clearly) made last summer by Levy et al, we will be in for a more considered and constructive approach to transfer dealings over the next few months. (I will pinch myself if this occurs...)
Some people on here clearly don't rate harry, but, as stupid as it sounds...hes in charge. That's the fact of the matter, completely out of our control. Surely though, we should be supporting the team and those involved in attempting to move us forward rather than undermining the club and in essence ourselves.
Everyone knows that papers talk codswallop and that the 'itk's' are even more full of heathen nonsense. No one truly knows except those truly involved. My point is, don't let the talk whip you in to a frenzy, I've experienced many a window of stupidity as I know all of you have, but I'm still inclined to stay calm and just see what happens...
Judge Harry when the window shuts and then see what he can make with what he has brought in over a whole season.
keep the faith, COYS.
Reply to Basskadet:
I completely agree, I rate him highly and think this would be a typical redknapp buy. Honestly a positive move.
Reply to onedavemackay:
I feel you are suffering a bad case of denial.
As much as it is jarring to say, City have overtaken us.
I dont really understand the argument that somehow having robinho, tevez and eto up front is going to cost them dear because they are either only average or a bit up their own arses. ha silly city. tevez, robinho and eto. the mugs.
Whilst we have sensibly accrued Robbie Keane.
clever harry, rubbish hughes.
Reply to jolsgonemental:
That's why we have to rely on City having a 'transitional' season, The scum having another (comparatively) poor season and us identifying the right players and hitting the ground running.
It's a tall order, and one that would suggest nothing more than Europa League football for the foreseeable future.
Reply to jolsgonemental:
I don't deny they have much more spending power I am just trying to point out that more money does not necessarily mean more success.
I certainly believe that having robinho, tevez and eto up front is a good thing and would I swap them for what we've got ? Tevez and Eto for sure bring em in but Robinio is a question mark.
If Robinho is a question mark, Pav must be a skid mark.
And another thing. Talking about less desirable destinations for top players how about Arry getting Diarra to go to Portsmouth ? And on a lesser scale Crouch and Defoe, they may not be world class but they knew they were taking a step down and they must have had alternatives abroad.
The Shelf are saying Bassong is a done deal !!!!
Reply to onedavemackay:
OK, the Palacios point has already been made but that doesn't quite highlight what a ridiculous point you've just made enough. FC Metz were a Ligue 2 side, probably the equivalent of a team in our third tier. How often does a Premiership side buy a player from our 3rd tier AT ALL? You have to impress to be able to convince a big team to go for you & if you are just 21, you have to really impress. He was already playing for the French U21 side & obviously Keegan saw something that persuaded him that Bassong was worth a shot. HE WAS NOT BOUGHT FOR THE 1ST TEAM!! Bassong had not yet shown he could reproduce his talents at the top level & Keegan saw him more as one for the future. He actually only paid £500k for him. Performances in the Newcastle central defence were so bad, especially from their big signing, £10m man Coloccini (who we WERE trying to buy & many people were upset we'd missed out to Newcastle, might I add), that Bassong was given a go & he excelled. He had got his foot in the 1st XI door & he was consistent enough to keep it there. Just to point out as well that Bassong is a CB, at least that is his favoured position, but he is just as comfortable at either LB or even RB. He is naturally left-footed (something we distinctly lack in our defence) & likes to defend rather than charge forward at every opportunity.
Lets face it Harry is not getting any younger, he is about the same age as Fergie.
Their both ready for retirment.
So is Harry up for this? Hope so.
Because if he is, i think he can put us where we realy want to be.
And the only way i think he can do this is to have some faith in our youth system.
He had it at west ham but had to sell them all because of finances.
Give time with youth and i think we can realy compete with the best.
Reply to stepneyspur:
Top Shout!!
Arry always gets his way in the end.
And he always gets the team his managing right.
COYS!
Reply to Longwell:
Yeah, I just got the feeling from his argument that he didn't get what you were trying to say (which was pretty much the same as what I tried to say to him).
Great minds and all that
Reply to stepneyspur:
Wake up and smell the coffee ffs, you will not compete with the likes of the top 4 and citeh with players from our youth team.
A strategy dreamt up by a dreamer who sees arsenal trying to do the same thing - wake up that lot ain't even competing with the top 3 at the moment.
They have the likes of drogba, barry, torres, eto, gerrard, rooney, berba, robinho, tevez.................. do I need to go on?
Men against boys I'm afraid if we try and go down that route our better players will leave as per citing lack of ambition. Also if any of our young lot are any good the top 5 will poach them.
Reply to jfdit:
yeah but like we got bostock and obika.
The Shelf is saying that not only is Bassong done but we are interested in Nolan as well!
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Reply to jfdit:
So we end up as a feeder club for the likes of
the top four
Do we play our youth or sell them or loan them?
Reply to jolsgonemental:
bet fergie and the waiter are getting nervous
Reply to Longwell:
`Arry has not given the kid a chance, the reason I showed the two Spanish players is they are at big clubs and have been able to play week in week out since they were 18.
Reply to jfdit:
We have persued a policy of buying in talent, and most of it is shite.
Reply to OxSpur:
My view is simple if their good enough play them in the coca cola cups and in europe (if and when we qualify).
'Arry knows what to do with them and if there is any gems there he will make them top players. Sending them on loan to championship clubs won't do them any harm. If they don't shine at that level they ain't going to make it in the premiership.
It's a massive jump from youth/reserve team to premiership and very few players have made that jump with us and gone on to be top players. I for one would rather see bostock given a chance than waste 12 million on downing.
I'd love to have a team full of home grown players but unfortunately we wouldn't win many games
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
We've bought lot's of players for big fees who IMO are simply not good enough. This isn't a recent policy but goes back 18 years and has simply been a waste of the club's resources. How many have we bought over that period that were genuine top class players? No where near as many as the top 4 for sure.
The players we've looked at and not gone for are stuff of legends but we now need to up our game. We can't wait for the newly monied teams' owners to get bored and piss off. That's what we've been doing while the top 4 have been getting their operations together. All that happens is another new owner comes in and the status quo continues.
If we want a seat at the top table we need to be investing in top class players to complement the ones already at the club. I think 'arry has the minerals to pull it off if we back him up off and on the pitch.
Transfer boredom has turned us all against each other. Who to sign, who to sell, who's good and who's not? Who we can attract etc............
To be honest I'm pretty fucked off when I think of our club at the minute. The last few years, right back to fcuking lasagnegate and missing on 4th on the last day - we've been on the slippery slope since then and doesnt look like we'll get to those heights again, now with City in our way along with Everton, Villa and maybe even Westham. Fight for top 6 next year and maybe for the next few. Call me a pesimistic - its just the mood I'm in right now.
Now for signings - of the ones we are linked with I'd like to see Cana, Gudjohnson and Huntelaar replace Zokora, Keane and Bent. Simply beacuse Keane will generate funds to allow us to make purchases - not that I hate him, its about 50-50 love-hate with him at the minute.
I'd also love to see Jenas and Bentley make way for Young, and we hold onto Hudd. He's still only a pup, and along with Bale could be our star performers in a few years.
Reply to johnnyg:
'The Shelf' is just repeating what the ITKs (Jasper, Ben and all those other wankers) on Spurs Community are making up.
Reply to RJ1882:
one thing i think we should all remember, although this might piss you off as well, is that considering where we were october last year im quite happy with things at the moment. i also think we will have quite a positive season under harry as i think he will buy well. also i wouldnt assume City are automatically ahead of us because of their spending power. personally i think with the players they have bought (and are in the process of buying) and their manager i dont think they will have the great season everyone thinks they will. i rekon Hughes will struggle like fuck to control all those ego's in the dressing room and will lose controll by xmas. i realistically think we will finish top 6 next year which will be a possitive step forward.
The Shelf is a plie of balls - look at their last few post titles:
# Robbie "Keane" on staying
# Robben coming in?
# Huddlestone off
# New GK Kit
# Villa make offer for Bentley and Hudd
# O'Hara to Fulham
Every single one to date, bar New GK Kit, is complete and utter balls. Why waste their time talking crap?
Reply to TMWNN:
i take it they talk a load of pony then, didnt know how credible they were. thanks for clearing that up
I think it's safe to assume once July 1st rolls around, we see a bit more activity with clubs both here and on the continent.
Redschnapps knows what and who he wants, just ignore the shit in the red tops (and for the most part newsnow too), but whether or not Danny can comply is another day's work.
Like most of us, I'm sick and tired of being linked every fucking Laurel and Hardy that passes for a footballer these days. Talk of Top 5 or 6 really gets on my tits.
We're Tottenham Hotspur, we're fucking better than that.
It was wage demands that killed the deal? He isn't a bad player but when would he play when you have Woody, Ledley, Dawson and Corluka to choose from? There isn't a doubt we need another centre-back but I thought we were looking for someone to cover Ledley not to cover Dawson.
Reply to Basskadet:
Sorry but what exactly is the ridiculous point that I made ?
Reply to TMWNN:
It will be interesting to see how we accomodate owen, RVN Huntelaar and Jones oh and Young, Maxi Rodriguez and Duff.
They are all definitely coming.
cisse is a done deal.
29 minutes......USA 2 Brazil 0.....Typical Spurs fan...all I can think of is this spring at Old Traford.....
Sounders playing Colorado tonight?
Reply to jolsgonemental:
And that's about a tenth of the players we'd already been linked with this time last year.
Worst fears realized........2-2.....
F&^%&%&^%&^%CCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd rather get in a well balanced team of relative unknowns that cost next to nothing and has both the skill, quality and hunger to challenge rather than a bunch of self centred egotistical mercenaries that will bankrupt the club before you can say "chilly january midweek fixture at Burnley".
Who was Wilson? £700k a complete gem and gentleman. "Wilson is a terrific young player, a player we needed and I think he will only get better" says Redschnapps
Could Bassong be of similar quality? From what I've seen certainly.
Relative unknowns are good. Although "You have to watch players carefully and be as sure as you can be as to what you are getting." The opposition will underestimate what we're capable of, especially when flying under the radar of the megalomaniac stratospheric spending abilities demonstrated by others.
However in addition to these relative unknowns, some at the end of their journey RvN/Eidur Gudjohnsen could greatly benefit the mentalty and maturity within a squad.
WRT to the youngsters. Blood them in slowly into a winning team. When they're ripe, you'll notice the difference.
WRT Arry. Let the man do his job, and we'll see just rewards.
Reply to RJ1882:
You are a pessimist but there's no need to be. We became a decent team by the end of the season a season in which we took points off all the top four.
We made significant improvement in defence became difficult to beat at home and over the last 18 months have signed at least four top class players in Modric, Palacious, Woodgate and Gomes. If we can add a top left back, left midfield and striker we'll be a match for anyone in the Prem.
Don't worry what City or anyone might do let the others worry about us.
when brazil play, it's not so much yellow as it is gold
time to take a leaf from their book?
oh i wanted Brazil to beat them. and Spain before that.
nothing personal. just dotn want football to ever catch on in the States.
Reply to Trembly:
Never mind all that. Who's the bird.
The new kit looks all right on her.
Reply to onedavemackay:
"Do not bother just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try to be better than yourself" W. Faulkner
Reply to onedavemackay:
ODM, spot on as per usual, as you say "If we can add a top left back, left midfield and striker we'll be a match for anyone in the Prem" - the critical bit of that sentence is "top"
If any of our proposed new additions are not "top drawer" I rather start next season with our current team.
More players with wilson type make up please
Reply to TMWNN:
She's the Ambrosio of the gods.
New season, new kit
Reply to jfdit:
If man city cannot tempt the best players to them with all the money they have got, how the fuck are we going to compete?
No top draw player is going to come anywhere near us at the moment for obvious reasons,shame,but that is just a fact.
So harry is just going to have to build the squad up from scratch,it just means us being even more patient,i know, ffs.
And that was what i was trying to say when i said of his age, is he up for it?
Attack is the best form of defence and of winning a match. Fluidity is the key for me. Think of a tidal wave. Just because we're going backwards, doesn't mean we're not on the attack...
gold leaf? LINK
Reply to jolsgonemental:
Why not? That sounds...what's the word I'm looking for...personal!
Reply to stepneyspur:
it's his last hurrah. his final chance to do something at a proper big club. course he's up to it
We have the best English manager (given the time 'Arry's been at Spurs) in the EPL.He replaced the best Spanish manager Juande Ramos (given the time he was at Real and the 2nd place finish). For 'Arrys bashers, do you want the 3rd best Scotsman in charge?...COYS
Reply to Trembly:
Yep thats what i thought.
Now lets let him get on with it.
COME ON H,
COYS
Reply to Trembly:
Definitely custard, but doesn't look like she comes from Devon.
Reply to stepneyspur:
'Arry is on his final gig with us and time is of the essence as a five year stint is unlikely at his age.
Spurs still have more pull for players than all the other prem clubs except the top 4 & citeh. If we get the ground built we may be surprised at the players who will want to play for us
Reply to Trembly:
Nice
i'd like us to buy Marcus Berg. He would be someone to have for the future too. Great goalscorer and should be alot cheaper then that dutch hype klas-jan.
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Right-o!
Game of two halves and all that.
Still very proud today!
Would describe a bit more, but I'm rather drunk now.
In a dignified way I assure you.
Reply to onedavemackay:
'We Ain't Never Gonna Be Respectable'
- Mel & Kim.
It's so funny how we don't (transfer) talk any more.
- Cliff Richard, Daniel Levy and Harry Redknapp.
In turn you triggered a memory from my days working on the Seven Sisters Road (before leaving for Canada) but instead the sign at Courtney-Popes washroom TO the sign PLEASE DON'T THROW CIGARETTE BUTTS DOWN THE TOILET...
was added ...LOWER THEM DOWN GENTLY. Just to ensure a Spurs note ... Robben would not be too shabby...