Pav Wants Out.......................
Thursday, 04 June 09, 12:05 AM · Comments (169)
There was an unsubstantiated word on the street, well at least on the Spurs board From The Lane yesterday that Crazy Paving had handed a transfer request into Levy.
How true that is I cannot possibly say. What I can tell you is that I got word very late last night that the Russian's agent, Oleg Artemov has begun making (uncharacteristically subtle) enquiries about escape routes out of N17 for his boy.
Nowhere specific at this stage and I'm not going to start conjecture as to where either, that's pretty irrelevant.
What is believable is that there is clearly a kerfuffle going on over Tottenham's striker strategy and no one's happy.
Pav has shown some flashes of inspiration, scored some lovely goals as well as turning in one or two lacklustre performances - but finding yourself routinely benched in favour of the box of wet matches that is Pointy Shouty Bloke must be pretty hard to stomach.
There are rumours older than some of my dad's ties that Bent is off to Sunderland. Maybe Levy has requested we keep him as he has a range of novelty products ordered for the Megastore, Bent branded revolving bow ties and squirty flowers, that sort of thing. Maybe the delay was simply waiting on the appointment of Bruce. Who knows?
I hope this Pav business either fizzles out or can be rectified. He is a genuinely classy player and the idea of not persevering but instead bringing in the unhinged Cisse or the uncultured Kenny Pineapple leaves me humming the lyric ...if your head is filled with dark forebodings too, I'll meet you on the dark side of the moon.
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"If someone wants to give you a bum steer on who we're after, then so be it. If you want to know, ask me, because I have a list of players we want and Robbie Keane isn't on it." Glenn Hoddle, then Spurs manager, shortly before paying 7 mill for ... Robbie Keane.
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Reply to JD:
What a gloriously cretinous comment.
Thank you for taking the time out from picking your nose to share it with us.
Harry,
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I disagree, I think that Pav is nowhere near good enough. When I have seen him play, he looks slow, poor in the air, for a tall lad. His control is average and so is his passing. He will score goals but in overall play , I think he needs to improve a lot.
I would happily take 10 mil for him and get a more versatile player. I actualy prefer Bent to Pav.. ( Maybe I should continue to take the tablets
Good morning insomniacs - still hoping to be the first to find out that kaka has had a change of heart because he was a boyhood spurs fan....if we got what we paid for Pav I wouldnt be distressed to see him (and of course Bent) go. He has had a mixed season - not a disaster but for me he doesnt have a specific attribute that makes him better/different from our other strikers. I think for 14 million we could find someone who fills specific needs (height/power/hold up play)and can perhaps form a better partnership with Defoe (my number one choice based on form and appetite since coming back) or PSB. Anyway if he hasnt settled and wants to leave, thats a good enough reason to get rid. Pav is a finisher who is not great in the air or at bringing others into play. Defoe and Bent do the same job but are faster and settled/English. Keane's attributes are different - dropping into midfield and linking with other players and although he hasnt been inspirational as a player, you cant argue with results since he came back. I'd be happy with Defoe, PSB a tall quality striker and Obika as our quartet next year, bearing in mind no Europa. We can always play one up fron with Luka or someone 'in the hole'.
Is he a "genuinely classy" player? He should be given until January to prove himself after the magic rest that is going to turn him into a world class player. If harry wants to sell him to fund better players, I'm not that bothered. In a lot of games his touch and shooting was toilet. Will a rest really see that much of an improvement?
He doesn't strike me as being a class act. How many Russians have really made in the premiership ? Reprov and Shevchenko to name just two - big stars in the slower leagues but mixing it up with defenders the size of trees, they don't appear to have the stomach for it. Assuming we can get most of our money back, I feel certain there are better goal scorers out there.
Reply to Gazzasfaketits:
Is he a "genuinely classy" player?
He was before he put our shirt on
Swap him with Vagner Love!
Pav is a great player. We have no player at our club who can finish like Pav. I'm sure that he needs the rest. He has been playing for 18 months! I truly hope we keep him and I don't think attackers is what we should look to bring in in the summer.
I hope we sell Pav, I have to admit that his finishing is top draw in the box but hes the slowest striker ive ever seen. All that "Hes been playing for a year non stop " doesnt mean hes going to gain a few yards of pace after a few weeks in margate. I dont think he ever won a header when the ball was played long to him either. Which is a crime considering how good he is in the air from crosses etc. But bringing Cisse in is a no no, he was useless in his liverpool days let alone last year with Sunderland. I seem to be against popular opinion because i think "Kenny Pineapple" would be a great signing. He has power,pace and is good in the air making in my view a good foil for Defoe or Keane.Lastly Keane did have a poor return in his standards but let us not forget the form we were in when we re-signed him and then the form that followed. I think he played a massive part in keeping us up if only by his attitude off the pitch.
Got to agree with vandigo, kenny pineapple could play the Adebayor role for us, but i wouldnt pay the prices that were being bounced around in January, striaght swap for bent please. As for Pav, the times he has been good he was at the top of his game, which is, for £14M not good enough. If he was controlling the game like Berbs the bollox was, then fair enough, but he just about gets into the game, then the next one he drifts away agin. Promised so much, delivered just a little. Lets go and get Tuncay for £2M while we are at it, might give PSB something to think about.
Reply to AndyB:
How many Russians have really made in the premiership ? Reprov and Shevchenko to name just two
Both Ukrainians not Russians you numpty
I disagree Harry. I feel that while Pav is def' an asset when in the opposition penalty area, he contributes too little to general play when not in the box. I would agree that Keane's been off-colour since his return and I share your sentiments regarding Cisse and Jones (sadly Arry seems a fan of the latter!).
However our boy Bent would quite certainly have scored comfortably over 20 goals this season had he been considered the main man all the way through, possibly even have competed for the top-scorer award. I hear many of you scoffing, but his goals per game-time stats speak for themselves. Even last season, when you tot up the actual minutes he played, he got his 8 goals in 18 matches or so, which isn't too abysmal considering he was clearly 4th choice. When starting regularly, he's always bagged plenty of goals at this level and is an asset to the club imo.
I would be OK with Pav' staying, but if a quality player comes in to replace him, who offers something different to what we already have, I can live with that. He's had far more poor games than he's turned in good performances so far and if he isn't hungry to prove himself now, I see him as expendible - we need players with the right attitude!
"How many Russians have really made in the premiership ? Reprov and Shevchenko to name just two"
Neither of these guys are russian but a good point anyway.......
For me the jury is still out on Pav but I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt in that last season he never seemed fit and was perhaps in need of a rest after the Russian season. However in itself it would not be a disaster if he went; there are signs that he will never adapt to the Premiership.
The key thing though is that whatever we do striker wise it has to be done in June and not late August. The reason Pav is even here in the first place is poor management of the Berbatov and PSB situation; exacerbated by the subsequent panic buy-back of PSB when Defoe was crocked.
So come on 'Arry, sort it early and let's win an opening ganme or a change (just know its going to be Burnley away).
Would be a mistake to sell him. Have to give him at least another season to prove himself. He has shown flashes of brilliance and will be a success given the chance. It is a big adjustment for the lad and it doesn't help when all the fans and the media are calling for his head!
The more sh*t you throw at the wall the more sticks.
More rubbish from you, you stupid twit who has been up all night thinking of something to write.
2 cells clashed together in his small mind approx 5.00am this morning and it took the twit 1 hour 30 mins to string the pathetic article together.
I can't get my head around whether I'm stupid for reading it or this punch drunk has been is the stupid one for writing it?
Coments welcom.
Oh HH shut up.
Shine on Harry..
Reply to MIDD THE YYID:
I can help you out there, MIDD.
YOU clicked on here.
So that makes you responsible for your actions.
There are some websites that really get my goat too.
I don't click on them.
I thought you knew better then to listen to ITK's HH...
), who adjusted much quicker.
I'd like to see what he can do for us next season. Remember that it takes time to adjust to the PL if you're a Johnny Foreigner coupled with the 'No rest from the Russian League' crap.
We have to stop comparing him to Berbs(
BUT, if he has handed in a transfer request then fair enough...
Over-all.....I find myself indifferent about the whole debacle (again).
I wouldn't wanna see Pav go. I think he has shown his class and desire and I'd love to him in a Spurs shirt next season after a wee rest.
It seems to me the return of the *prodigal* PSB is proving more and more problematic. He's just getting in the way of Modders and Pav!
Reply to Dr_Strangelove:
Got to agree, PSB is deffo getting in the way of Modders.
Before PSB got dragged back sobbing into his Bin-dipper jersey, one of the few positives you could take from our 'games' was modders slotting in perfectly into the whole behind the strikers. PSB comes in and modders gets thrown out to the left...
A complete waste of talent.
dont get the rebrov/Shev comments - they are a joke right? If thats what you call making it in the prem I may still be in with a chance (at 47). I know its unpoular to support keane and it does give us a problem if he is undroppable but I still say look at our points with and without him.
On PSB. I went into my local Fuller's pub the other day and asked for a PSB instead of an ESB. I knew then it was time to sign up and join in.
Reply to Wanstar:
that's what i think. If harry buys a left sided player, i want to see Modders behind a real #9. sell Bent,the Russian and PSB to buy large.
Pav is a proven international footballer. His lack of English gets in his way. If Redknapp injects a bit of confidence he will improve no end. Play him with Defoe, and PSB on the left until a good quality replacement is found. In my humble opinion the club should put most of its eggs in one basket and get Joe Cole. A player who can lift a whole team. One who would definitely improve the side, and one who knows Harry. We dont need average, we need quality.
harry will do the right thing for spurs.
if pav leaves, i could see us going for crouch who has a lot more to offer ( if he keeps his elbows down ).
a lot of activity with other clubs is good to see - man city flexing their muscles early...
my reasoning for this is that they can only have so many players before potential later signings will know there are only going to be 15 regular starters - if they still want to sign for city, well why would we want them. it will also get the money ciculating around the clubs and may help spurs to get the money they have paid for less effective spurs players???
mark hughes commented on sturridge yesterday and mentioned what a player is worth in wages against ability and experience so they do have a cieling as such( then add 30% i suppose).
getting back to the early city point, they can't buy everyone and the under 21 tournament is coming up.....
12M for pav and 10/12M for bent,5/7 for zokora,7M for huddlestone etc + yearly transfer kitty - harry will get his targets.
i was always suprised how well harry did in the transfer market ( a couple of duffers but )...and always thought something fishy is going on....and so did the police but we now see it's his management and people skills - ahem!
Indifferent to the whole Pav situation, I was hoping Real would keep Ramos and that would offer Pav a route out of WHL in exchange for Huntelaar who seems to be a better less injured version of RSC at Blackburn.
Keane coming back has correlated with Modric's upturn in performances. In the early part of the season he played to deep and hardly influenced games, until we were behind and chasing the game, now he's involved a great deal more and standing out as the talent he is. Surely this can not be solely down to Palacios' arrival? As much as I hate to say it PSB had an impact on our season and our improved form, even though he played shite.
Reply to JD:
look get off his back, you bunch of muppets, your all talking like your ex pros, i bet not one of you could hit a barn door!! how good was the sulk in his first season???? sados........
My opinion seems to differ to most on here this morning, Pav seems to be like Marmite – some love and some don’t love his performances thus far.
I am indifferent about him, I wouldn’t mind him here for another season if he can kick on, but also agree that for that sort of cash there must be better out there – WHO……I don’t know, that is why “Arry gets the big loot!
Did anyone see that Spurs have released another 1500 season tickets for next season. I can't afford to go all the time these days, but i love getting to the odd game. Don't suppose there'll be ayn general sale tickets now.
Reply to danny Kelly:
The sulk was way better in his first season than the russian. What a silly comparison.
i think pav deserves a break he had a long season and deserves to play in the first eleven
next season give him a chance to settle then if he wants to go at the end of 2009/2010 let him
not sure if harry rates him though
I see Pav as more of a technician, despite being tall and, supposedly, strong, he prefers the ball to his feet. He is no target man but he also doe snot have great pace.
I am yet to see him win a contested header and although some improvements have been made and he has been playing non stop for 18 months or so, he does not show enough energy around the pitch.
This may all improve but I have another concern....Harry likes a target man. If we buy one when will Pav ever get in the team....answer, not very often! SO how happy and how effective will Pav be. Answer, not very much. SO is it worth having a £14m rarely used substitute...... or are we are we trying to set a record for the most expensive bench in history - Bent, Pav and Bentley all warming the bnech at a total cost of £45m and probably totalling £150k/week or £7.5m a year in wages.
Surely we can use our resources a bit better than that.
Pavlyuchenko to go if the inevitable happens and we sign another £15m stirker
Reply to Devonshirespur:
Can't argue with any of that. I found our obsession with aiming the bloody ball at his head all the time very frustrating.....
Reply to wayne king:
Are you DV in disguise?
Would like to keep Pav. However, if there is a better striker out there who'd love to play for us, bring him on. Whoever he is.
Reply to TheUndeniable:
Hands up all those who think Boro would let Tuncay go for £2M!
Spot the young lad who plays too much championship manager!!!!!!
I like the guy but I reckon you'd need to pay at least £10m.
Growing up Liverpool were the side to beat, they used to buy players (especially foreign ones) and stick em in the reserves for a year or so to let them get used to their team mates, English football etc. We sign a lad who's not had a break for 18 months, misses most if not all of pre season with us and expect him to be the bollocks. On top of that he joined a team that was shite, he couldn't speak the lingo, nor could his manager - I'm sure you get the point!!!!!
This is bad news ........... sell PSB and keep crazing paving - the boy can finish he just needs a rest and some game time with defoe.
Another season of new strikers bedding in trying to blend - clueless
Why don't we just sell the whole team & manager & just start from scratch - probably makes sense in someones mind on our board
Are we really about to see Pav go, Cisse come and PSB continue his high fat diet? - good god I hope not!
tis the season of rumours and confusion!
where will it all end?
does anyone remember last years rollercoaster fiasco?
ps.....who are these bloodsucking agents
Reply to MIDD THE YYID:
You know that HH is a real person? How would you like to be told to 'shut up'? I really don't see how this is so stupid. What does seem stupid is your knee-jerk reaction to vent your opinion. It's easy to criticise, and your response is hardly dripping in witticism. Get some manners.
Reply to SpudUlike:
His surname is Rebrov you numptys.
Can't see the point in having 4 strikers next season though with us only likely to play 40-50 odd games so if Keane and Defoe are staying there is no point in keeping Pav unless he is in the team very week. Daniel Sturridge as 4th striker I say (or Obika if not), more likely to get a few games than at City but should be happy to play 2nd fiddle most weeks, whereas at City he'll be 10th choice come August
Reply to Billy:
Also, I trust Redknapp to judge Pav accordingly as he will have seen him in training on a regular basis and will have an idea as to whether he can be consistant enough next year.
Q: if we had no choice to buy players and had to stick with the existing squad,....what should Harry be doing to enhance the teams performance for a better position in the league?
so?
streamline....smoothout........manouvre.......shoot sessions(get in there!)
team tenacity.......belief......zone dominace......great interplay floor,great physical.......
consistency.....personal targets
If Pav wants to go then sell him. He hasn't really delivered, looks weak, slow and lethargic and has a poor touch - not ideal for the Prem.
I'd go for Peter Crouch - he'd be a cult hero at the Lane.
Reply to Billy:
Harry says - "I don't pay much attention to what players do on the training pitch. It's a bit like the horses. They can look sensational at the gallops, but not perform on the day of the race."
Lose Pav, Bent and PSB (not a chance) buy a real player.
Reply to Holmesy75:
Ahhh the old Rednapp tentacles might well reach the lanky git you know!
Little and Large at the lane!
We wouldn't be in any of this mess had we signed Milito. Having re-read even more vintage HH from last year, I commented on how good a ball winner Milito was in comparison to Pav, Bent, Frasier. Slow off the mark we were, and we need to be sharper this year.
I like Pav. From his horridly Russian nouveaux riche taste in tiger themed atire (c.f. 9_37's profile pic), he's got a poachers feel about him. A tasty touch and an eye for goal. Reminds me a little of Mr Bux. He's not pacey so he seems ineffective when paired with our recently fashioned fast counter attacking style. He's also got that bit of arrogance that we need in a striker, but this season hasn't been able to back this up too often - the howler that was his CC final performance has to add to the reasons to be fearful. However some turns and flicks have been amazing and it's those plus his cheery attitude that have won over those who want to give him more time.
However, in the same way that "One swallow does not make a porn star" (JGM 2009) one or two touches does not make him the ideal striker for our purposes.
Lets look at this another way. We have one season to break the Champions league placings. If not this season it's never, according to the balanced fiscal arguments previously discussed by jfdit and 9_37 amongst others. Hence, we need someone for the now, not the future. We can only afford to wait for him to grow into the player we want him to be, as well as show he is the player we thought he was when he signed, iff we have someone that can immediately meet our needs now.
This again depends on the striker formations that Arry thinks will be most effective for breaking top 4. IMH a Van Nistelroy, a Gudjohnsen even a Davies from Bolton would provide a key missing ingredient from our existing array of strikers - they know how to hold up the ball as well as being seasoned been-there-done-that's at the top level.
If Pav does want to leave I'd miss him, but only lament if we don't replace with better.
Reply to jfdit:
'change the whole team and manager' didn't we try and do that last summer?
Reply to billiospur:
Just love that team, not sure all the letters of Mr "great interplay floor, great physical" will fit on the back of the shirt though. Also don't think 'Arry will play a 4 4 2 next season though.
Gazzasfaketits - just read that interview that you quoted from. Not sure if its an older rehashed interview or if its recent and consistent. You can see that he knows what he knows and unquestionably knows what he wants. If only he's buy someone so that he can share his game plan with us poor punters.
Reply to Trembly:
With our current regime, I make you right about having to break the top four next season (unless, of course, a rich Arab takes a liking to us). Next season will be transitional for city and with two or three players in the right positions (left midfield, partner for Wilson and a target man) we should have a much better squad than Villa + Everton (and no euro football) leaving us to fight it out with the scummers for fourth. Depends on who harry brings in ultimately.
i can see why pav would need another season to adjust to the prem but i fail to see where he will find instant speed and first touch. it appears arry likes quick counter-attacking players. bentley and pav dont seem to have this chip in their heads. we do need a battering ram up front, arry traditionally uses one, hence his interest in jones. not too gone on his scoring record though. this chap dzecko(sp?) appears to scare the shit out of jeerman defences and scores for fun. he of course will sign for someone else, but one can dream. crouch seems more realistic to me. anyone fancy a pint?
We probably havent seen the best of Pav, hes had no holiday/rest in donkeys, he's obviously a quality player.
We also have to take into account that hes from a another country and is new to the culture here.
If he really can't settle then at least he's been honest with us sooner rather than later, if things don't pan out then perhapes the club should look at doing some sort of swap deal for another player/players whilst his standing is still good throughout Europe.
I doubt we'd get the cash back we paid for him in the current financial climate.
I read somewhere that Samuel Eto'o is available for £20 million. So how did we spend £20 million on PSB, £16 million on Bent and £14 million on Pavarotti. Spunked up the wall, all of it.
Reply to headless chicken:
You forgot the £15 million spunked on Bentley.
My advice to Mr Redknapp is look what happened at Spurs last summer. Spent the whole time assuming none of their strikers were leaving and then when they did leave it was almost too late to get some quality replacements in. It's like drinking at a bar assuming this bird you are chatting to is game on, then she buggers off and you realise all your mates have pulled and it's 5 minutes until closing so you grab the last resort. It's rarely pretty, it might get the job done but nothing to brag about in the morning.
The squad was unsettled and had sold over 50 goals. Get the transfers done as early as possible and settle the squad in time for the kick off of the League in August.
In truth no one knows for sure what is going on at the club, which means fans get to ponder and dwell on what could happen.
On another subject, I truly think we are mad to think we can break into the top 4 next season.
The top 4 are strong already and all will seriously strengthen.
Along with Citehhhhhhhhh and Sunderland, Everton's squad is so small that they always seem to have continuity and a decent team.
The same with Villa, there squad is small and the team picks its self, they only had major probs once Martin o'neil had more options, i.e. buying Heskey.
Maybe we should hang onto what we have, paper talking about Thudd and Bent going for £6m and £10m is lunacy on our part, we couldn't buy a premier league striker who chipped in with 17 goals and is English, also was injured and HUMILIATED IN THE MEDIA BY OUR arry, and generally has been slaughtered by us lot.
We need to take a breath and actually look at the bigger picture, unless we bankrupt our selfs which would be madness, we should aim for between 5th and 8th.
Sorry to put a downer on things but im a realist.
Reply to Stokey yid:
Why not fourth? it will be hard to do, but if harry does add three quality players to an already good squad it's not totally unrealistic. Our form when Palacios has been playing has been rigth up there with Manures and Liverpool's.A couple more like him adn we'll have a chance.
Off topic I know, but I wonder if BMJ is laughing his socks off over this.LINK
Reply to horace_rumpole:
PK = Lager Lout.
I really think we need to keep hold of bent and make him number 1 with defoe and keane rotating the 2nd striker role,i would also play modric just in front of palacios as the center midfield pairing,with lennon on the right berth,therefore our transfer target should be a quality left midfielder (20 to 25 mill),i'd play hutton woodgate king/dawson and bring in a world class left back,and would keep gomes in goal (please dont bring robinson back),now then we have decent cover for right back with corluka also able to cover as center back,i really think continuity is the key and i anticipate only 3 or 4 players coming in and think the left side should be the main new additions,we have enough goals in bent/defoe and keane,we should recoup over 30mil for pav/bentley/o'hara/jenas/zokora,add that to the ready available funds from levy,and we should be able to bring in 3 top top players to make our 1st team really strong for next season,i seriously think without the distraction and extra games europe brings we could really be in with a shout for top 4,also i would give tarrabt and santos another season,as i think these 2 are the future of THFC.
Reply to Stokey yid:
I think your dead right. Talk of a top 4 finish is unrealistic and brings pressure on ourselves before we kick a ball. If were in a position too finish up there then great but too be honest id rather win the FA Cup at the moment.Its more realistic and its a good day out. Ar5ena1 have finished in the Champions league spots for the last 4 years but history records them as losers.Mind you if all this " we need to sell before we buy" is a smoke screen and we go out and buy top class anything is possible
The difference in aiming for the league title, the last place in the champions league positions, the top 6, or simply to win a cup is ambition and a 'win at all costs/hate to contemplate losing' mentality.
The only way to achieve anything is to visualise what you want to achieve and fight for it. You ultimately cannot buy success. Even if you win something of merit after cash splashing, you will be looked upon with derision in not building or playing or doing something or other that you should be doing.
There has to be fight in the bellies of the players, the coaching staff, the board, the fans. Without any aspirations, you'll get what you deserve and that will be mediocrity.
I'd rather have bitter disappointment at missing out on 4th, than be content because I didn't expect us to get there anyway.
Reply to Trembly:
"It is better to have loved and lost, than never having loved before"
or something along those lines!
Reply to footballmatters:
Maybe you need to work on your chat-up techniques? Or a new deodorant?
Reply to Ginge1:
Good to see you back Ginge. I thought you'd run off somewhere with that JamieSpurs bloke or something odd.
Surprised you didn't add to the conversation regarding recession fallout fiscal issues and top4 now or never scenario 9_37 and jfdit were on about yesterday. Am keen to hear how the banking industry is doing at the mo.
first of all HH love the blog and i am a pav fan and i looked foward to seeing him next season but if we can get our money back for someone like vagner love or even crouch i wouldnt be too upset. second could all those people saying "look at how our forms changed since keane came back, hes saved our season just with pointing and shouting, its just a coincidence he came the same time as sgt wilson (who actually is the one who saved our season) look at how poor we were in the last three games when palacios sadly had to go back to houndoras. Third could arry's three be srna (if you bieleve corluka),kranjcar and jones
Reply to HarryHotspur:
I agree.
Let's also not forget that it was Pav's first season in the Premiership and, when he joined, he had already played in a large part of the early-starting Russia season. Which, in my view, is why he found himself on our bench toward the end of our season.
As for PSB, in short, form is temporary, class is permanent. Keane was, arguably, our most important player before departing to Liverpool. Should he stay I am confident he will once again regain his form and consistency; ideally during pre-season. I do however concede that to do this he will need to start concentrating on his own game rather than (offering advice on) everyone else’s - Pav, Modric, BAE, etc. Maybe it wasn’t such a great idea to make him captain.
Reply to headless chicken:
We need to get someone like that James from the Apprentice on board. Apparently he likes to "put a leash on people who spunk money up the wall".
If only he was in last year's series, he would never have allowed Commolli to make such a balls up!
Reply to Trembly:
You're wrong. Man ure, chavski and the dippers buy success every year. The money from the European Cup enables them to buy the best players and is the reason they are the top 3 sides. The whole thing is self perpetuating, and the only way to compete is to buy into it a la citeh.
Sorry lads I no this is probably a stupid question
But who is psb
I been tryin to work out the initials nd I can't wrk out who ur on about!
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Wow surprising bit of news.
Looks like following Joe Lewis's gambling strategy with the american banks has seen him off big time. Makes me wonder how sound our club's foundations are at the moment.
Kelmsley, Lewis and Levy are a tight bunch so their businesses are intertwined.
Reply to all about the money:
They were all top 4 prior to money coming in.
Big lazy donkey, let him go. I am very tired of
spending 15 mill her and there, instead of splash
out 25 mill+ on a superstar.
But the club have a major problem. The superstars wont come to us, sorry. We cannot give them CL games, and that whats count in todays real world.
This has been a major problem the last couple of
years. Look at it, on the other side.
The CL clubs have been willing to spend 20-30 mill+ on our best players. This is the key,and difference from us, and to top 4 clubs and
our missing top 4 placement, that we all want.
Levy want to have, but do not want to give.
Reply to Trembly:
Hi Trembly,
Your both quite correct. The toxic 4 have achieved a stranglehold over those positions which needs busting up PDQ, how this is to be done is a very difficult question.
We could argue that the spending money approach we've employed doesn't work but I'd quantify that by saying if we had spent the money wisely in the right areas it may of worked. Your spot on about getting the ethos of a successful club right from the tea lady up to the chairman. I hope 'Arry can install that into the club - early signs are he knew something wasn't right in that area and he has started to improve the players mentally.
Our ambitions may have to be tempered with all this new money coming into the game until Joe Lewis decides to become more like the russian or takes a hit and sells up to a rich arab.
Reply to Spurs4ever:
It stands for Pointy Shouty Bloke, you know our "captain" who should have stayed with the bin dippers!
Reply to Trembly:
At the beginning of the Premier League, it was less predictable, except for manure, who have always had money.
Season 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
92/93 manure villa norwich blkbrn
93/94 manure blackburn bar-codes arse
94/95 blackburn manure forest dippers
95/96 manure bar-codes dippers villa
96/97 manure barcodes arse dippers
Reply to Spurs4ever:
pointy shouty bloke.... robbie keane
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:
Drat, and there's me thinking i'd avoided that tale sounding autobiographical. What's deodorant?
And if your head EXPLODES with dark forebodings too .... I'll SEE you on the dark side of the moon.
Pav has a bit of quality and I think he can be a good player. That said, if Harry doesn't rate him and if Pav himself isn't happy then he should be moved on. It's moonshine to think we'll get back what paid, but Levy has given Harry the car keys and he can do what he thinks best for the club.
On a sad note, US were righteously tonked 3-1 by Costa Rica in WC qualifying. I was hoping to break the Hoodoo CR has over the Yanks on their really horrendous plastic home pitch. Not to be. So US-Honduras on Saturday is huge!
Reply to Gazzasfaketits:
I agree with fake tits
Our form picked up when Palacios signed and dipped when he left. He is the man. Buy another one similar, a lefty and a target man.
Do it Redknapp, and do it quickly.
No amount of rest or even time to work up a desireable partnership w/ Defoe (unlikely anyway b/c PSB has yet again casted his undroppable spell) will rid Pav of his inability to control the ball, hold it up, etc. and most importantly, it will not cure this provincial man-child of his unprofessional, lazy, immature, seemingly unloyal and obviously weak mentality. If he, in fact, has submitted a transfer request, then by all means, fuck him!
The last time I checked Russia was doing a lot better in the Euros with Pav playing than a team like England with the likes of Peter Crouch (linked with us) who didn't even qualify for the tournament.
I think Harry sees a future for Pav or has at least said so. I'd guess that Steve Bruce doesn't want to pay anymore than 10 mil for Bent, the board wants 11 or 12 and probably won't get it. Plus it's only been days since Bruce was appointed and their ownership has changed.
And frankly even if Pav wanted out, I don't think we should give into the whims of every player. Probably more likely is that every agent in the world including Pav's wants to play ping pong with their clients moving them every transfer window to collect their percentage.
It bothers me that I have to justify my approval of Spurs players to fellow supporters. I'm not saying that they all have reached their potential or are top 4 quality but it's ridiculous that Spurs fans pray for the exits of people like Pav and Hudd.
Reply to smokey:
Are you on drugs? Bent & Defoe as a front 2 are a joke as they clearly hate each other and refuse to pass to each other. We need a target man desperately or we'll endure another season of what might have been.
Hudd to West Brom on loan?
Could it be?
I'd much rather win the league cup than finish 4th, whats the fucking world come to when were aiming for 4th instead of winning the league or F.A. cup.
As for people saying get rid of Zakora Jenus and Thudd along with Jamie, what happens when Wilson gets banned and he will, or injured, we'd be fucked, plus Palacios can't play 50 games.
Jenus is a work horse now, his game is messed up covering for the likes of Zakora and Thudds lack of mobility, but there decent squad players who can come in and do a job, football turs so quickly, Wilson could suffer lack of form(me doubts it but it could happen, I just cant see where were going to be able to replace Thudd and Bent for what is being banded about that there getting sold for.
This is world cup year, all English players will up there game, you just watch.
As for us having to sell before we buy, I doubt its a smoke screen this time, what did it cost to bring Harry in pay off Ramos and Jol plus all the backroom staff, a fortune thats what it cost.
well if pav is so shit in the air,poor first touch, no pace....get rid.
he is johnny on the spot though, if only bent had the ability to be in the right place at the right time.......but,bye bye to both.....I also think robbie keane is on thin ice but depends on what good players harry brings in???
micheal owen, joe cole, peter crouch, j a riise would sort a few problems and one more season for bentley to prove he can be what we'd all hoped - we'd all be gutted if he did the business elsewhere.
To all you anti Pav twats..I think you need reminding that the boy has,before he came to us played in a Euro chamionship and played a Russian league season back to back before coming to us..Their season starts way before ours..Then he comes hear bangs in a double figures in his first season including scoring in all but one round of the Cockring Cup.Thats not bloody bad at all and to top it off has to learn one of the hardest languages in world...Hes a top player and if Mr Bobblehead has any sense he'll keep him..I doubt it though..He would rather go out and get Kenwank Jones and Richard the walking penalty Dunn..I'm very worried about who he brings in..some of the names touted about are no where near Spurs quality..
Crikey, a queue of DVs, now there's a prospect!
I understand that there have been sidebar issues for some time on Ole, no? Don't worry DV, your fans know how right you are
'Young'? That's below the belt
hello yids,
personally i'd rather keep the pav and see what a player that has spent more than a season at the club is actually like...i mean whats wrong with keane,defoe,pav and bent...let's keep them and buy a cb,and a couple of midfielders to help out around the shop....or even a left back that can actually defend...i mean blimey thats truly asking for something isn't it...
to be honest....harry will probably have to sell £15 million...to spen £20-25m....so who goes.....chimbonda to blackburn sounded good....zokora to whoever wants him the most...and if a player really does want to leave then fucking sell him....COYS....
and farewell rocha...we saw you not.....well worth 3.3m...don't you think...?
I concur. There is a scent coming off some anti Pav comments I recognise from the anti Defoe gang prior to us selling him.
And that little offside lovin' Herbert then went off to do good very deeds down in Pompey.
I was screaming into the wilderness when under Jol Defoe was having the ball hoofed up at him by Robbo.
When what was clearly needed was a style of football I once heard described as 'Push & Run'.
Instead we all too often perpetuate our degeneration into a (wannabe) upmarket version of Graham Taylor's Watford.
Pav's flashes of inspiration I referred to in the blog were all when that bloody round thing was on the floor.
Reply to DARF SPURS:
I think the point some people are trying to make is that having not had a break from football for 18 months or so shouldn't have affected his ball control, heading ability, pace, etc all of which have been pretty poor this season. That said for me the jury is still out on him, IMO anyway.
He may have scored in all but one round of the CC but who did he score against? Burnley, Liverpool reserves, Watford and the poorest Newcastle team for many a year.
Reply to Stokey yid:
Get with the program Stokey.
4th = CL and lot's of lolly = better players = a better chance of actually winning the league again.
No CL = No fucking chance.
hello DV,
i do hope everything is is fine and dandy in barcelona the home of the european champions....i can't imagine it would be otherwise....
i agree with you also....obviously harry will have to add something to the squad....and we will have to wait and see what he does....i guess he has until about october 17th to sort his shit out otherwise levy will pull the trigger...
here's hoping we can take it to the opposition next season......good luck harry...
Reply to TMWNN:
i'd say man city will truly test the arsenal next season.....
wages talk as they say...that's why barry went to city....with the prospect of actually being able to afford to challenge the big four....of course...no one else can....unless they have a truly gifted manager who can bless his players like the big...JC
talking of JC....i'd have him at the lane any day....
fuck me has everyone forgotten Robbie Keanes name
or are we really that bitter
He shouldn't be captain though
Like I said, Pav has quality, but it's just up in the air if the quality is consistent and we'll see it often next season (after a nice nap) or if he is a guy with decent ability with flashes of quality.
I think this is the crux of the debate. I would like Pav to get another chance, but Harry is in the best position to accurately assess the true nature of Pav.
Reply to Parklaner:
Of course not, but today we're putting someone else thru the hoop
DV - old enough to be wise but young at heart
Me - old enough to remember the use of pennants in football (where did they go?), young enough to flirt without embarrassing myself... I think
Amazingly it's tough to find accurate news about the Honduras squad! Reports say Wilson has rejoined the team, but we won't know if he plays until the line ups are turned in. If his head is right, it would be great to see him.
As for the match, US is unbeaten on home soil for some ridiculous amount of games. I have every confidence that they'll prevail.
Apparently according to the Manc blogs, Fraizer Campbell has been told he is being put up for sale. Perhaps he can go back to Hull or some other shite team before he ends being the 301st player to rejoin us in the next year.
On the subject of Pav - he has to stay for at least another season. Whilst Bent is continually done down, he is an OK player but I wouldn't be too upset to recoup half of his fee, and use it on Dzeko.
As for PSB, he played like crap for the last 2 months of the campaign. Give him till January to sort his act out, and if he is still moping about his unfair treatment at his boyhood club he can go to his other favourites north of the border.
I am really looking forward to this transfer window, as Harry has a good record buying players. Provided you don't include Marco Boogers............
Yes to Pav. Give him another season to prove himself (and some decent crosses will help).
Yes to Defoe. Proven. Tried and tested. Or I'd like to try anyway
Maybe to PSB. I'm sitting on a fence getting splinters.
No to Bent. (Sorry DV). He may have a better record than the rest but there's something about *style* that doesn't make him a Spurs player.
The trouble with every transfer is that there is no exact science or amount of money for making it a success.
Every club spends big money on players who have a great reputation before they sign and as soon as the inks dry, their reputation nosedives. E.G. Veron, Crespo, Keane (to Liverpool), Berbatov (to United), Nani, Bentley, Jo, Baloban, Owen, Rebrov etc.
Conversely, there are those players who cost very little, yet become excellent players. E.G. Palacios (to Wigan), Lennon, Hangeland, Cahill, Hyypia, Laursen etc.
Whilst we are one of those clubs who have the money to buy big, it doesn't mean it's going to work. More and more it's becoming about managers who can blend a team of good players and make them believe in themselves and each other to become great players. 'Arry is one of those who can make players believe, but he is also one who lack belief in those players we, the fans, believe in.
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:
Pennant !
Did someone say we're signing Pennant ?
Reply to onedavemackay:
ODM, always good for a rumour!
Reply to ghostyid:
I like what you're saying. And especially put my seal of approval on the final paragraph. I especially do not want to see the back of them if they just then go on and strengthen other teams in the league.
Did you see the story thats doing the rounds -Charlie has suggested we sign another RB. Or is he trying to turn us into a Croatian superclub..........
LINK
Reply to TMWNN:
4th only gets you a chance to play in it, and with the new rules you can come against some top teams and not get to play in the CL.
Reply to TMWNN:
Stokey. Don't get us wrong. It's not as if we value winning a cup any less, but my initial point was that we should try and win everything and hate to lose anything. Only thing is, if we want to ensure our future as a big club, we MUST MUST MUST get into the Champions League - with no Europe to add to the schedule, 2009/2010 needs to be a professional job we simply must focus on absolutely nothing else but Champions League qualification - No clubs, bars, skanky wags, nothing but football.
Reply to Trembly:
Here here!
I have personally given up clubs, bars and skanky wags!
Right after they gave up on me.
DV - if Bent actually stops hiding at the back post behind 3 tall fullbacks, Azza Blud etc might be able to find him. I'm grateful for his goals and recent efforts, and think he can still develop into a better player, but he is by no means the finished article.
Side note: I hear Adriana Lima has a bun in the oven. It wasn't me, so I was wondering whether in the post Manure twatting, you didn't hook up with her at some Barca club?
Reply to Trembly:
Come on trembly - no skanky wags
They'll all go on strike mate
Off topic reply to DV:
"Your stomach cannot absorb enzymes, only their constituent parts, which your body then using as building blocks to make its own"
LINK
Surely the only thing Bent oozes is an exceedingly low IQ? We should sign Agbonlahor from Villa then at least we'd have the thickest looking front 2 in the prem.
Then again - who would have said that about Chimbonda?
It's seeing articles like this earlier in the year that make you panic.
LINK
Reply to Trembly:
Believe me, he wasn't there
Reply to SeattleSpursGuy:
It's close season SSG. I think you're allowed to indulge a bit if they're willing
Defoe? He'd probably bolt too soon.
Bent oozes style? Knocking those balls in off his shins...
WTF??? I teach A-Level Biology, and I never knew salad gave you enzymes!!! BTW Sandy is right- any enzymes would be digested in your stomach by the proteases that are present there, and the subsequent amino acids would then be used by your body
Get out there and run around a bit
Reply to DesertSpur:
I thank you Mr Spur.
Update on football in the UAE - Tuesday's friendly in Dubai betwen Germany and the UAE was great fun. I went with my German Mrs to see them spank the locals 7-2 with Mario Gomez getting 4. The German keeper Manuel Neuer looked a good proposition with some great reflex stops,and Trochowski down the left looked pretty tidy too. Considering the heat (35C and a 10pm kickoff), it was a pretty good game with some of the UAE players coming off looking fairly good. Here's a link to all the goals..
LINK
Arabian desert - I'm out in Dubai.
Enzymes are protein molecules that act as biological catalysts. They are formed in cells by a process known as protein synthesis.
In simple terms, the order of the bases in your DNA defines which amino acids get put together and in which order to create a protein. (3 bases usually equals one amino acid - in some cases it means start or stop) First stage of protein synthesis is known as Transcription - basically reading the DNA and making a temporary mRNA copy, which is then transported out of the cells nucleus to a ribosome where it is read by another molecule tRNA which matches the sequence to the correct amino acid. The amino acids are joined together to make a polypeptide chain this second stage is nown as Translation. This chain is then modified elsewhere in the cell to give you your final product - a protein. I enclose the following link for your perusal
here it is
Transcription : LINK
Translation
LINK
Enjoy!
Reply to DesertSpur:
German missus? It's true they have a sense of humour isn't it. I mean, mine married me after all
She'd never been to the football before. Took her first time to spurs v noocastle, and she loved it - knew I was on a winner then.
Re Germany squad. We were linked with Neuer at one stage last year I think. Bloody good goalie. Spotty faced Schweinsteiger is what I wanted Bentley to be like. Trochowski would be great for our left side, but is too much in demand we'll never be able to outbid anyone for him.
as bad as pav can be.....we all fuckin' loved him when he scored the winner against liverpool in the 90th minute.
i think harry can sign someone better though
The Mrs is a Schalke fan (and sadly a Manc USA fan - at least she lived there for a few years) and her old man was raving about Neuer, and I can see why they let a really good keeper in Frank Rost go. He has brilliant relexes, and is decent on crosses. The 2 UAE goals were probably just to keep the local fans happy - it was 6-0 with nearly 40mins to play. Schweinsteiger got one, and was generally lively in the game. Lahm was disappointing, and got exposed for pace by the UAE's RW. Perhaps he was there for the money. Podolski played 1st half and looked decent, his replacement Cacau looked absolute crap.
I think if we get a middle east stadium sponsor, we might see a UAE player or two have trials at Spurs - they just went professional this year and technically they are good, but they lack real physicality. Gomes dominated their CBs, and he just went past them repeatedly.
He's got a Spanish dad, and a German mum so at least he's not one of the players who gets nationality after 5 years.
As for enzymes, and raw food, research is not in your favour. There are a lot of believers in the value of raw foodism, but frankly I'm not one of them. Food sources of enzymes are specific to breaking down that kind of food, and do not really benefit the body as a whole system. And realistically the vast majority of food enzymes will be digested in the stomach. The benefit of raw food is more to do with vitamins - most vitamins are not heat stable, so cooking pretty much destroys them.
All this talk of enzymes and stuff makes me feel a bit queasy. I may have the need for a polish stomach pump. LINK
I don't care as long as it hits the back of the net and not row Z.
Reply to fatfish:
Classic Terry Thomas........
as for stomach pumps, they just remind me of that Marc Almond urban myth
Thanks DesertSpur, don't think DV was ever going to believe me and my cynical ways - am a big fan of Ben Goldacre and hate bad science.
DV, you clearly didn't bother reading much of the link. I recommend regular visits to:
LINK
There is far too much Bad Science out there, sadly a lot by 'nutritionists', homeopaths (and their invisible magic in a bottle) and terrible, sometimes dangerous media reporting/coverage. And some 'scientists' need a few lessons in basics and effective research practices too.
Moan over.
And I still like Pav.
Just a few weeks ago rumours were circulating that Hiddink was recommending Pav to his temporary employers at the Bridge. He certainly talked up our striker's merits. And since he coaches the Russian national team you'd think that his opinion is one to be trusted. Before Defoe got injured he struck up a very effective partnership with Pav and I for one would like to see that duo back together at the start of next season.
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:
Pav is great, and he comes from Spartak Moscow - one of my old haunts..........which redeems him further in my eyes
and I bloody hate bad science!
Reply to DesertSpur:
Reply to 163 DesertSpur:
Talking of enzymes and Marc Almond -
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Have we signed Crouch yet as a replacement
Give up.
Reply to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:
A Cambridge journal involving Marc Almond and enzymes........intriguing.
Perhaps he's extolling the virtues of a raw diet.....
We must love all who wear the shirt unconditionally and only then shall we be rewarded.
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Can you prove you are indeed NTG?
You didn't mention the Pikey
Reply to A_Felching:
More of this!
Dig that pic.
Reply to Billy:
Who would do the talking????
Reply to HarryHotspur:
I`m hoping Bruce will buy him, and the rest of the deadwood as they did last season.
I rate Pavs, I really think he can cause any defender in the league trouble - ask Vidic.
I also like Kenwyne Jones - think he is similar to Drogba and Adebayor, and not just in looks. He is big, powerful and quick and would be great for us.
Lets wait and see............ hopefully we can get a few in. Srna? Where would he play? Not RB, not RM and not a sub, so not sure what Corluka is on about.
More reasons why we have to do whatever we can to obtain Champions League football.
1. Whinger is reportedly trying to sign THE BEST DEFENDER of the Euro 2008 competition, Giorgio Chiellini. We're in the daily hate mail linked again to Dunne.
2. One of the best strikers of the same tournament has apparently put in a transfer request, while the golden boot winner of the same said tournament reportedly being targeted by another existing sky 4 club.
We'll only be as attractive to the best known top players when we reached the hallowed ground of CL football.
Any other decent Croats out there? I think Charlie's just homesick
Reply to RJ1882:
I reckon Charlie's stumping for Srna is so he can head out on the town with one of his Croat mates and not be mistaken for Penn & Teller. Though, you're right, given our current needs and personnel he'd be wiser to bend Harry's ear about Kranjcar instead.
Reply to johnnycheshunt:
"We should never confuse dissent for disloyalty"
E.R.Murrow
When you think we spent £14m on him and he can't get in the first team ahead of a poor Robbie Keane (that's a different argument) suggests that he isn't the real deal. Man City just paid £12m for boyhood Spurs fan Gareth Barry - who would have slotted into the centre of our midfield perfectly with Wilson. When I think of what we have wasted money on and at the same time seen the players we have missed out on (for less money than the crap we normally buy) it is extremely frustrating!!!
Who told you I'm not a septic?
Just be grateful I didn't spell it 'pogrom'.
Reply to Trembly:
missed it, Banks are still fucked most have been bailed out leaving them on an even keel but they're in no mood to lend or invest. So says a former middle management corporate banker!!!!!!!
Kept my eye on you all, our good run coincided with me not posting and being the superstitious type!!!!!
This guy thinks we're all delusional:
LINK
But then he also said this:
"Is there a red-blooded bon vivant out there who can honestly say they wouldn't eventually tire of drinking fine wines and having sex with supermodels if they were contractually obliged to get stuck into both every single day of his working life?"
Personally, I'm willing to give it a six month trial period.
I think we need a proper target man to give us the option of hitting the early ball when we're under the cosh. As it stands none of our forwards can win a header. Crouch, Ken Jones, Huntelar???(if he's available & he'll come)
Another aggresive CM in the Sgt Wilson mode to allow the likes of Super Luka (nuts are we, we're all Super Luky! - just made that one up, you can have that one!!!) and Azza Blud to bomb forward. Also to allow for Wilson getting injured or suspended. Brown from Celtic is apparntly a bit pants on the ball but runs through brick walls so might be an option, Diarra from Real (if the new man doesn't fancy him) or someone of that ilk.
Possibly a LB although BAE has looked half decent and maybe a left footed version of Azza (Robben?) to give us a different option down the left.
All this talk of superstars is fairy tale stuff, as someone has mentioned no CL no f'in chance (unless we're taken over by an arab or the like who can convince one by throwing cash about like its confeti!!!)
Yeah, cheers for the Bolly.
Reply to AndyB:
Rebrov and Shevchenko are Ukranian, both were crap in the Premier League. Lets not paint Pav with the same brush. Arshavin is doing well for the scum so there is one.
Reply to horace_rumpole:
It works for me
Though it has to be said Lady onedavemackay is less keen
Andrei Kanchelskis
Reply to HarryHotspur:
I'm, fairly certain they would communicate with a series of grunts and gestures like the early neanderthal men.
Not sure about grace but Alexi Smertin for Chelsea and Fulham.
Pav's skillfull but lightweight. The rest of our forward crew are similar and all of them are unacceptably inconsistent.