Rebrov's Right?

Harry, you should be a policitian

“A lot of dark-skinned people live there,” Rebrov said. “So naturally the crime rate is higher than anywhere else."

'SO, NATURALLY'

Has anyone warned Pointy Shouty man about the locals in Liverpool? Oohps too late.
Sorry if that's north westist but heh, it happens.

So are you defending what he said or not?

Reply to Dougie:

“A lot of dark-skinned people live there,” Rebrov said. “So naturally the crime rate is higher than anywhere else."

'SO, NATURALLY'

.......as I was saying.....I deveopled a brain ache trying to find somw figures to establish an ethnic breakdown of criminals in Haringey.

So if anyone else can oblige that would be great...

Reply to James Maw:

So are you defending what he said or not?

I'm relaying facts and asking you to think oppese to type in IS VELOSO SIGNING? and hit the submit button.

Question is, are you thinking?

Brain has hut down for the afternoon, too much thinking this morning. Ask me again tomorrow...

Play nicely. Facts are facts, words can be said but not no offence meant. The guy is from another country and doesn't understand our pathetic cotton wool world we live in.
He implied something and his opinion is an ignorant one, lets not lose too much sleep.

harry,

it is obviously a racist statement because of his using the word NATURALLY, this suggests that "dark skinned people" and crime are NATURALLY associated, please think before posting...a couple of your blogs have had me raise my eyebrows in the past especially the video link to the nazi thing, I am a "dark skinned" spurs fan and have had to put up with a lot of abuse in the 80s and early 90s in football grounds in england, it is still fresh in my memory, please be sensitive with your posts....thanking you....your blog is still the best around....spurs78

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to Dougie:

“A lot of dark-skinned people live there,” Rebrov said. “So naturally the crime rate is higher than anywhere else."

'SO, NATURALLY'

.......as I was saying.....I deveopled a brain ache trying to find somw figures to establish an ethnic breakdown of criminals in Haringey.

So if anyone else can oblige that would be great...

SO you're saying you haven't researched it fully but you still decided to write a piece on it anyway.

Factually unfounded opinions based on stereotypes don't get us anywhere Harry. Passing the buck is a fairly lame attempt as well.

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to James Maw:

So are you defending what he said or not?

I'm relaying facts and asking you to think oppese to type in IS VELOSO SIGNING? and hit the submit button.

Question is, are you thinking?

Well you wouldnt know if Veloso was signing would you? At least not without having read it somewhere else first...

In any case, yes, I am thinking.

Reply to James Maw:

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to James Maw:

So are you defending what he said or not?

I'm relaying facts and asking you to think oppese to type in IS VELOSO SIGNING? and hit the submit button.

Question is, are you thinking?

Well you wouldnt know if Veloso was signing would you? At least not without having read it somewhere else first...

In any case, yes, I am thinking.

You will let us all know if reach a conclusion worth reading.

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to James Maw:

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to James Maw:

So are you defending what he said or not?

I'm relaying facts and asking you to think oppese to type in IS VELOSO SIGNING? and hit the submit button.

Question is, are you thinking?

Well you wouldnt know if Veloso was signing would you? At least not without having read it somewhere else first...

In any case, yes, I am thinking.

You will let us all know if reach a conclusion worth reading.

Likewise.

After all the great posts I've read on this site and stayed silent, I'm dismayed that it's this one that's forced me to respond.

No one is denying any of the data that you've used Harry, but as others have pointed out it's the phrase "so, naturally" that makes his statement undeniably racist.

Statistics about the ethnicity of offenders in Haringey are irrelevant, Rebrov's comments suggest black people are intrinsically linked with crime, presumably this would mean the likes of Russia and the Ukraine would have no need for a police force, seeing as these countries do all that they can to make black people feel particularly unwelcome.

I'm really disappointed to see such a glib and opportunistic post on this previously entertaining and informative site.

harry,

i do feel an apology is due...you are way out of line encouraging racist sentiments especially supporting your words with that cartoon at the top as if indicating there is nothing wrong with what you or rebrov are saying...I and I am sure countless others are waiting...

Reply to Nick G:

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to Dougie:

“A lot of dark-skinned people live there,” Rebrov said. “So naturally the crime rate is higher than anywhere else."

'SO, NATURALLY'

.......as I was saying.....I deveopled a brain ache trying to find somw figures to establish an ethnic breakdown of criminals in Haringey.

So if anyone else can oblige that would be great...

SO you're saying you haven't researched it fully but you still decided to write a piece on it anyway.

Factually unfounded opinions based on stereotypes don't get us anywhere Harry. Passing the buck is a fairly lame attempt as well.

Buck passing????????

I have grasped that potentially it is racist to say that because there are a lot of dark skinned people in Haringey that crime is high.

This is an article on a blog, chummy, not a report I'm submitting before The House.

However, I made it pretty clear I had failed to find good information to either substantiate or rubbish his comment.

What would be helpful of course is if you were able to suspend your own useless OUTRAGE and contribute some facts - or get this - say nothing at all if you have nothing worth adding.

Do you know who's doing all the bad stuff in Haringey?

No you don't.

Come back when you do.

Harry,

It is very disingenuous to strip the comments of their context by analyzing each statement in isolation.

What exactly drove you to do that?

It's plain to see that Rebrov has become a West Ham fan!

Sergei lives in a country where not a lot of dark skinned people live, so naturally he thinks it is OK to publish stupid racist comments.

Reply to spurs78:

harry,

i do feel an apology is due...you are way out of line encouraging racist sentiments especially supporting your words with that cartoon at the top as if indicating there is nothing wrong with what you or rebrov are saying...I and I am sure countless others are waiting...

I apologise unconditionally if you feel that the figures from Haringey Council are in anyway encouraging racist comment.

Comment which will not be tolerated on here, by the way.

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to Nick G:

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to Dougie:

“A lot of dark-skinned people live there,” Rebrov said. “So naturally the crime rate is higher than anywhere else."

'SO, NATURALLY'

.......as I was saying.....I deveopled a brain ache trying to find somw figures to establish an ethnic breakdown of criminals in Haringey.

So if anyone else can oblige that would be great...

SO you're saying you haven't researched it fully but you still decided to write a piece on it anyway.

Factually unfounded opinions based on stereotypes don't get us anywhere Harry. Passing the buck is a fairly lame attempt as well.

Buck passing????????

I have grasped that potentially it is racist to say that because there are a lot of dark skinned people in Haringey that crime is high.

This is an article on a blog, chummy, not a report I'm submitting before The House.

However, I...

Harry, do you really think it's okay for Rebrov to make such a generalisation?

And don't hide behind your grating ambiguity and claims of playing devil's advocate.

Do you know who's doing all the bad stuff in Haringey?

No you don't.

Come back when you do.


Re: the above

I cant believe what you are saying harry, talk about digging a deeper hole...are the "darkies" doing all the bad stuff...who do you think you are, please apologise or I shall report your comments to the police, the spurs trust and the kick racism out of football group... you are a bigot harry... a slur on the name of spurs.... please apologise your comments are offensive.

Reply to Placidcasual:

After all the great posts I've read on this site and stayed silent, I'm dismayed that it's this one that's forced me to respond.

No one is denying any of the data that you've used Harry, but as others have pointed out it's the phrase "so, naturally" that makes his statement undeniably...

"Statistics about the ethnicity of offenders in Haringey are irrelevant"

Rubbish.

Reply to spurs78:

Do you know who's doing all the bad stuff in Haringey?

No you don't.

Come back when you do.


Re: the above

I cant believe what you are saying harry, talk about digging a deeper hole...are the "darkies" doing all the bad...

The only crimes I've seen when visiting the borough have been by football fans, the majority of which are white.

LOCK UP THE HONKEYS!

Reply to James Maw:

Reply to spurs78:

Do you know who's doing all the bad stuff in Haringey?

No you don't.

Come back when you do.


Re: the above

I cant believe what you are saying harry, talk about digging a deeper hole...are the "darkies" doing all the bad...

The only crimes I've seen when visiting the borough have been by football fans, the majority of which are white.

LOCK UP THE HONKEYS!

To clarify, I meant 'the majority of which WERE white'. I'm not claiming that the majority of all football fans are white, just that the ones that I've seen causing grief at WHL generally have been.

Reply to spurs78:

Do you know who's doing all the bad stuff in Haringey?

No you don't.

Come back when you do.


Re: the above

I cant believe what you are saying harry, talk about digging a deeper hole...are the "darkies" doing all the bad...

What is it you want me to apologise for?

I believe that Haringey is not a particularly place and it is very easy to just shout Racist as a defence.

It's so obviously racist. Harry, you're as ignorant as rebrov if you can see any possibility that it could be viewed any other way. Very disappointing. You're a fool.

you have until 5pm to apologise..or i promise you the authorities will have your blog shut down...I expect a full article in apology not a mumbled one liner...how can you alienate your fellow spurs fans like this...apologise and it will be forgotten (until the next time)
there is no room for racism in football, why dont you go and support millwall or west ham its where your sentiment belongs.

As the question mark at the end of the title suggests, it's not a statement but an invitation to debate. The entire point of a blog? Conflicting opinions? Rebrov must still be bitter so naturally he won't have too many pleasant things to say about the area. Besides, Pav will end up living in a mansion in Chigwell, driving to training in the leafy 'burbs and the only time he'll be in Tottenham will be on match days... where he'll either glide through in the team bus or park his Bentley in the secured executive parking. That's my guess anyway, not quite sure how match day travel arrangements work with the players. Doubt he'll be walking down to the LIDL's or jumping out at the drive through McD's though, so Rebrovs 'warning' is massively pointless and was clearly said to try and draw attention to the little twat.

Lets also not forget that he plays in a land where Dick Advocaat said he finds it extremely difficult to buy non-white players because of the deep-seated ignorance of the russian people. They are pretty bloody backwards in their thinking and his comments stem from his environment. The guy was a waste of space when he played for Spurs (apart from scoring against the scum), he's a waste of space now (and ignorant to boot), and will probably live a sad narrow-minded rest of his life and then die. He's a flippin' no-mark.

Any news on Bentley?

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to Placidcasual:

After all the great posts I've read on this site and stayed silent, I'm dismayed that it's this one that's forced me to respond.

No one is denying any of the data that you've used Harry, but as others have pointed out it's the phrase "so, naturally" that makes his statement undeniably...

"Statistics about the ethnicity of offenders in Haringey are irrelevant"

Rubbish.

Explain to me why Harry?

Rebrov essentially said "there are lots of blacks, therefore there's lots of crime"

The fact that Haringey is ethnically diverse naturally means that there will be a high proportion of offenders from ethnic minorities.

The statistic you should be looking for is the number of crimes per person committed in Haringey compared to an area equivalent in poverty but populated predominantly by white people like, say, Toxteth.

Then, and only then, will you be able to prove or disprove Rebrov's theory that the colour of your skin has any bearing whatsoever on how much crime you commit.

Reply to spurs78:

you have until 5pm to apologise..or i promise you the authorities will have your blog shut down...I expect a full article in apology not a mumbled one liner...how can you alienate your fellow spurs fans like this...apologise and it will be forgotten (until the next time)
there is no room for...

You need to point out what it is I have said that is racist.

Not an unreasonable request.

Your deadline is Christmas Day.

ok...maybe it was to invite debate but harry has made it clear what his feelings are and the racism is there for all to see, in fact he has gone even further that rebrov and there fore we "darkies" as harry put it deserve an apology from this bigot.

SPURS 78
'why dont you go and support millwall or west ham its where your sentiment belongs?'

Is that not stereo typing?

You should apologize. even if the word naturally was not there the implication of "lots of dark skinned people live there" and the "crime rate is high" is clearly there. And it is racist. Let us just hope that good ol Roman does not share his view or his goalscoring abilities for Spurd

I really dont think that harry is encouraging racist comments here! Clearly he is pointing out the facts which bring into question the claim that rebrov's comments were in fact racist. And i think the only part that can be deemed to be racist would be the 'natuarally' part, as already pointed out.

I think in todays society where everything has to be PC, and no one can dare offend anyone (to the point where offices have banned nativity scenes on christmas cards!!), it is important to understand peoples comments and not just lament them as racist.

Now this isnt me encouraging racism as i despise any sort of discrimination, it is simply a call for abit more common sense, especially in a country where apparently you can stab someone and be in and out of jail in 3 years!

33. spurs78 Wrote: | 15.02BST | Sep 10, 2008
ok...maybe it was to invite debate but harry has made it clear what his feelings are and the racism is there for all to see, in fact he has gone even further that rebrov and there fore we "darkies" as harry put it deserve an apology from this bigot.



NO.

I didn't say that.

YOU DID.

Reply to spurs78:

Do you know who's doing all the bad stuff in Haringey?

No you don't.

Come back when you do.


Re: the above

I cant believe what you are saying harry, talk about digging a deeper hole...are the "darkies" doing all the bad...

And here is you saying it.

I hate Gooners, I don't walk round their place because that's where they're from.
Maybe we should all be friends in every aspect of life and then we can all have peace and love.
X X

What I want to know is why Smertin went off on one about Croydon! It's got a great shopping area, good restaurants and pubs, thriving businesses, and an IKEA! Of all the places you can take a pot shot at, Croydon is hardly...well, it's hardly Tottenham is it?

Tottenham has for various reasons been unfortunate enough to not have had much in the way of investment pumped into the area. Certain things have remained the same since my family moved away years ago. The shops still sell a variety of well priced fruit and veg and yes people still do get mugged there. I never once got mugged, but I remember another lad who (on his walk to Wood Green) got his entire nike outfit, watch, necklace, bracelet and ring stolen. Low key he was not!

Rebrov is pointing out the obvious. Tottenham is not a wealthy area with the fanciest of boutiques, restaurants or supermarkets. Whether ill intentioned or simply lost in translation, the inference of his statement that the crime levels are directly related to the % of melanin in a person, is poorly advised.

It has been shown that if a crime occurs in a room crowded with witnesses of a variety races/nations, the person most likely to give the best description of the suspect is a black African. Nothing to do with quality of eyesight, but due to the fact that 'lighter' races tend to look for more obvious traits - hair colour and length, eye colour etc. However these differentiators aren't enough in far flung places like China, Japan, India or central Africa. I'm sure, if we got advice from him regarding where not to go in Kiev, the levels of melanin would be less a factor due to the lower % of racial variety.

He may be simple in his opinions because of the lack of his experiences, and the poorer he is for it. As I've said before, Tottenham has alot of things to be proud of, unfortunately crime and poverty are not among them.

My advice to Rebrov? Experience and enjoy different races and cultures, and think before you speak. Naturally

Reply to spurs78:

Do you know who's doing all the bad stuff in Haringey?

No you don't.

Come back when you do.


Re: the above

I cant believe what you are saying harry, talk about digging a deeper hole...are the "darkies" doing all the bad...

Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen.

Can we all take our seats, and put our shooters back into their ankle holsters.

Firstly, if I may address spurs78, I am in a position where I am fully empathetic with minority Spurs fans, but I have to say, with all due respect, that you are making your position untenable by getting all bent out of shape threatening over-escalation, and essentially fabricating by using your interpretation of the implied statement as the literal statement.

This is where we are in agreement: Rebrov has said something typical of his countrys indigenous population, which is regrettable, short-sighted, and ignorant. You only need to look as far as Jo's reports of his treatment in Russia to see how xenophobic Rebrov's compatriots are.

However, let's please not start bandying words around like 'deadline', and 'police' in threatening context. It only makes their purveyor look a bit foolish - particularly when the promised closure of the site you're shaking your fist at never transpires.

Cheers,
Nunchucks.

"I have grasped that potentially it is racist to say that because there are a lot of dark skinned people in Haringey that crime is high."

That was your statement harry, let me break it down for you.
1. You call us dark skinned people...often in the past people would shorten that in conversation to call us darkies...whats the respons for me to call you paleface...no of course not for that would be racist...you use the same terms as rebrov someone who respected race commentators and journalists throughout the land have deemed racist in his comments. You can call us black harry for that is the colour of our skins.

2. You support rebrovs theory by your cartoon suggesting it is the over sensitivity of our community to shout racist just because we are black. No one would believe that we were responding to negative press regarding the association of crime to the colour of our skin. You then quote these facts to lend weight to rebrov´s theory.

3. "Do you know who's doing all the bad stuff in Haringey? No you don't. Come back when you do"

In this point you are basically saying that "all" the bad stuff in haringey is done by "dark skinned people" ..I, before moving to spain used to play for a club called cosmopolitan in the waltham forest district league and our home pub where we used to go was in tottenham hale...i played for 4 years for them and I got to know a lot of local people through the club and the pub...the people who are doing all the bad stuff in haringey are mixed harry, some are black, some are white, some are turkish, eastern european, indeed some are russian and ukranian, but the worst players harry, that would be the government who fails to invest in schools, policing, health and housing, get your facts right and go down and take a look harry, dont worry you wont get mugged you mug! I wont wait until xmas for an apology as i said 5pm BST or prepare to answer to the authorities.

Harry wot Rebrov said was ignorant and racist reguardless of the figures. Its London bitch, you get jacked by a bunch of white boys or black boys or asians boys, alot of serious turks, Albanians,cosovans.even a bunch of angry lesbian who just came out from Holloway.That comment shows he doesnt know /understand enough about the area to be talking.So he makes that cowardly comment.Its seems like neither do you Harry.Bet your one of these supporters who lives deep in essex never been anywhere in apart from outside the stadium.It aint hard for Pav to do better at Spurs then that flop but if I was him i would leave my chains at home go out with some friends who aint cowards for a couple pints stay humble and investigate. Harry if you dont think what Rbrov said is stupid,ignorant nd cant be justified in any way the your just as bad.

Nunchucks,

If harry does not apologise I promise you that I will try to stand up for my rights by not tolerating racism, and I will contact spurs, kick racism out of football and haringeys MP...maybe I wont succeed, maybe I will, all harry has to do is apoplogise...I´m not asking that much every one can see he has said things he should not have said on a public forum, his public forum...I can be extremely stubborn and I promise you that I will see this one out. How dare he trivialise racism and racist comments pls. see his cartoon for reference.

spurs78, take that chip off your shoulder mate!

Reply to spurs78:

"I have grasped that potentially it is racist to say that because there are a lot of dark skinned people in Haringey that crime is high."

That was your statement harry, let me break it down for you.
1. You call us dark skinned people...often in the past people would shorten...

spurs78.

1.I did not call anyone dark skinned.

Revrov did.

It was reproduced by The Telegraph.

And then by me.

2. The cartoon was used to draw attention that some people shout racist before thinking. I believe no one could reasonably see it as otherwise.

3. Another assumption on your part and not a statement of fact at all.


You want my opinion?

Not your supposition?

Rebrov is probably small minded and a racist.

Do I sharwe his opinons?


Not in the least.


It's a pity I had to spell that out, but there you go.

Hope that clears that up for you.

Ref the pic at the top Harry.

My eyesight might be failing me, as the WHL turf looks a bit worse for wear (unlike Spurs groundstaff that) and I don't recall BMJ wearing a dress, but was that photo taken November 2006?

What, I should just take it yido? Rebrovs comments were disgusting, harry has supported them in his blog and I as a "dark-skinned" spurs fan have every right to feel incensed by his lending weight to rebrovs theory...its my right, nothing to do with chips.

Reply to spurs78:

Nunchucks,

If harry does not apologise I promise you that I will try to stand up for my rights by not tolerating racism, and I will contact spurs, kick racism out of football and haringeys MP...maybe I wont succeed, maybe I will, all harry has to do is apoplogise...I´m not asking that...

I was not seeking in anyway to trivialise racism. If you genuinely believe that I was, then I apologise unconditionally.

Reply to spurs78:

"I have grasped that potentially it is racist to say that because there are a lot of dark skinned people in Haringey that crime is high."

That was your statement harry, let me break it down for you.
1. You call us dark skinned people...often in the past people would shorten...

spurs78: i think you should buy a hat, that spanish sun has obviously made you go all mental.
'dark-skinned people' was a direct quote from rebrov

harry: i think a new post would be a good idea, eh?

Reply to spurs78:

What, I should just take it yido? Rebrovs comments were disgusting, harry has supported them in his blog and I as a "dark-skinned" spurs fan have every right to feel incensed by his lending weight to rebrovs theory...its my right, nothing to do with chips.

How have I supported him? I just told you what I thought of him.

Reply to spurs78:

Nunchucks,

If harry does not apologise I promise you that I will try to stand up for my rights by not tolerating racism, and I will contact spurs, kick racism out of football and haringeys MP...maybe I wont succeed, maybe I will, all harry has to do is apoplogise...I´m not asking that...

spurs78,

You seem, from time to time, to have some periods of lucidity where empathy with your current issue is actually not difficult to achieve. And then it's speedily undone in an ill-informed ranting fugue.

Perhaps, the article might have been better titled. But that's all I got. Really. The cartoon, in the essence of cartoons, is tongue in cheek at best. The term 'darkies', was unfortunately first, and subsequently, coined by you. To hash the term 'dark-skinned' people and 'darkies' in some kind of enforced marriage, and force this interpretation onto the individual you're accusing is not good enough. You might as well try to achieve the same with the word 'negro' and it's more offensive, more colloquial cousin.

However, if you do report this blog and it's writer to the authorities, my advice would be to do so anonymously. I would suspect that it'd be more likely that the police would be more interested in taking up a time-wasting complaint than in trying to decipher a racism accusation, wherein the accuser is the only individual using the regrettable vocabulary in question.

Reply to spurs78:

Nunchucks,

If harry does not apologise I promise you that I will try to stand up for my rights by not tolerating racism, and I will contact spurs, kick racism out of football and haringeys MP...maybe I wont succeed, maybe I will, all harry has to do is apoplogise...I´m not asking that...

All that's been said is quoting. By quoting no body can be procecuted. I wasn't said by Harry.
Let it go and sort that chip out on your shoulder mate.
Stop acusing all Russians of being racist as this makes you no better than them, Rebrov is not even Russian so why bring them into it?
No body has attacked you, stop trying to other peoples battles, that's how wars start, we don't want that, do we?

I can see what you're trying to do...ie be as honest about the quote as possible. But what you are also doing (and perhaps fail to see) is that by giving this quote the time of day your suggesting that this could be true and Rebrov's statement has some worth?!!?

I'm sorry but anyone with an ounce of worldly knowledge would know this is just ignorant at best and racist at worst!!

The important thing here is that even if it was true (and the issue is more complicated than that just black vs white) his comments are just plain ignorant and come from the school of racism.

ie. "A lot of dark skinned people live there"......ok so you really want to get to the bottom of a quote where someone uses the word 'dark skinned' - that's stupid to start with.

Then he adds the words 'naturally the crime rate is higher' So by this he's not even talking about this area. HE'S SUGGESTING ANY AREA WITH DARK SKINNED PEOPLE has a high crime rate !!!!!! You can't defend this crap !

Can't you see this statement is plain stupid !!!!

I think it is naive and dangerous to intellectualize stupid comments !

PS Yido don't bring out that old chestnut about chips and shoulders, just because you wish to live in blissful ignorance!!!

Spurs78-

"Do you know who's doing all the bad stuff in Haringey? No you don't. Come back when you do"

In this point you are basically saying that "all" the bad stuff in haringey is done by "dark skinned people" ..

You copied the quote and completely missed the point. How is that what he said? You then go on to list all the ethnic minorities from the area and completely missing that that is EXACTLY what was implied by the comment! NOBODY knows who is doing ''all the bad stuff'', it could be any % of the very list of peoples you listed, or any others for that matter. The question that was first posed, if you actually bothered to read it, rather than fly off the handle, was HH looking for exact crime figures. There were no statements made, only questions asked. Unlike what you have done.

You also wrote: ''You can call us black harry for that is the colour of our skins''. It was Rebrov that said ''dark-skinned'' and the only time Harry wrote it was to paraphrase him.

I quote you Spurs78:
''why dont you go and support millwall or west ham its where your sentiment belongs?''

Do you not think that statement is rather ignorant? I'm going to jump to a conclusion in that case and accuse you of saying every white person that supports West Ham and Millwall a racist. I'm sure there would be a few people from those areas that might have a few things to say about that.

"dark skinned people" if it was a quote from rebrov, quotations should be used...harry used that phrase in his own statement,

harry, you supported rebrovs theory by coming out with a load of facts suggesting that all crime is done by "dark skinned people"...

you say point three from me is an assumption, wrong...it is a fact crime is committed by every kind of people in the borough...i know as I have spent a lot of time in the borough not just on match days...maybe you should crawl out from under your computer and pay the borough a visit.

Your half hearted apology will not suffice as you still believe you are in the right...

I will be persuing this with said authorities unless there is a full apology. I will be making a phone call in an hour or so, your call harry, think. There is also other comments on other blogs you have written, so not an isolated incident. think.

Harry - not to get on your back, enough here have deemed it essential to today. However certain subjects: race, religion, politics etc are incendiary. I believe that you had no intention of causing such a ruckus - nor do I believe that your initial statements clearly back what can be perceived as Sergei's small mindedness. You've already affirmed your actual point of view, but perhaps you'll take time to clarify your sentiments beforehand next time? I wasn't under the impression that you were a shock jock although it certainly works when getting ratings. What's next auctioning off a woman's virginity? No seriously? Ask her to stick on a spurs shirt and you'll leave Mr. Stern in your wake.

Spurs78. Certain things can also trigger in me a rage that can be uncontrollable. These things are few, and usually relate to the closest things to me - my family being the most of them. Clear and blatant racism is another that gets my blood boiling. However, I would advise you to firstly take a deep breath and not allow yourself to read as fact, things that may simply be incorrect inferences or misunderstanding. I'm not going to tell you what quantities of melanin I have in my skin, I'm not going to qualify my opinion with that. But its much easier to point and shout a divisive message, than get across one for unity. Surely rather than rushing to exclaim a crime has been committed, it would be better to examine the evidence and identify exactly what had been done and who did the deed? Lets get the facts straight first in clear black and white, or in any of the various sepia tones in between.

Spurs78, cant believe you are getting so out of your pram, Harry is entitled to his opinion, or are you against people being able to speak their minds and have freedom of speech, you would have every thing so sensored that people are scared to have a point of view. By making your threats and demands it shows you are no better than play groud bully.