Tuesday, 12 August 08, 05:09 AM · Comments (203)
The deadline for this deal was apparently set at midnight last night. Don't ask me by whom, I am merely a humble vessel passing on such valueless, erm, invaluable infornation.
Cesar Sanchez of Zaragoza is the boy.
Rumoured to be the missing great great grandfather of Rumplestiltskin he is aged 36.
An ex Real Madridista with Champions League experience Sanchez will make a refreshing change in that as a Premiership number two he won't be some poor guy suddenly thrust into the limelight should he be called upon.
The vulagrities of money, then. The fee is likely to be undisclosed as the financial thrust of this move centres around the salary of the Spanish Sticksmith. Tottenham were said by Heraldo newspaper yesterday to be 'assisting Zaragoza with their wage bill' by taking him on a deal whereby they only had to continue pay of 40% of the goalies wages. Levy, you old cove.
The source of this story is Mrs Edith Carmichael, 72. Using only an upturned bucket, her tweaked NHS hearing aid and a home made periscope, she risked life, limb and Levy to bring you this breaking news.
On the cards for a while...certainly needed experienced back up!
Now for CB's please
HH
Any news on the Corluka situation gone all quiet or have we just given up on him?
Why are we not in for Cuellar? or will he end up being a Boumsong
Reply to ABE:
Why are we not in for Cuellar? or will he end up being a Boumsong
Cuellar is not all that! trust me! after watching Rangers and the SPL alot last season I can tell you that at £8m Villa have paid over the odds.
Its very very very easy to look good in the SPL! As proven by our win over Celtic, the best team the league had to offer, beaten by a spurs side who played the entire game in 3rd gear!
Welcome Sanchez, now where is Corluka???
The news on Corluka is that, although we agreed the fee, he signed the contract etc. City didn't file their paperwork with the Premier League.
We sent paperwork through, but without their confirmation there's no deal to argue over.
I still think we'll get him with an increased bid though.
Reply to cheddar_green:
oooh HH!!!! So close but the Official Site just beat you to it! Give you the benefit of the doubt though ; )
Any word on Veloso or Arshavin...?
The buggers didn't have to going hunting for a You Tube vid!
Reply to 9__37:
Cesar Sanchez? El Segundo.
I heard Valdez is coming. Tell him: Valdez is coming. Honor is Always Worth Fighting For.
The Mexican Rider has already arrived. I'm waiting for Diego.
Harry, you know a thing or two about football, don't you. So tell me, apart from having a comprehensive knowledge of tactics and player-development, is it essential for a coach to be expert in swooping, capturing and snapping up?
I ask because, whenever players are recruited, the coach has invariably 'swooped' for them; or 'captured' them; or 'snapped them up'. Occasionally they've been 'landed', like a fish.
Are there coaching badges avaliable in these skills? Personally, I'd like to become proficient in swooping, but generally being able to snap up more effectively would come in useful.
Dont know him, and if Gomes stays fit dont suppose i will. The big question for me is why dont we let Berb the serb leave. Hes a fucking arsehole that fella! Undoubted talent, Questionable passion, Zero loyalty. What a git!
Crazygazza
1. We wont proper amounts of wad
2. Old Rednose is an even bigger git and we won't sell to him unless he offers 1) or fecks right off
Reply to 9__37:
Harry, you know a thing or two about football, don't you. So tell me, apart from having a comprehensive knowledge of tactics and player-development, is it essential for a coach to be expert in swooping, capturing and snapping up?
I ask because, whenever players are recruited, the...
"I know more about smalz herring than I do about football."
Of course these badges would also need to bare the accommpanying word 'audacious.'
As it is suggested that most of saia signings were achieved in conditions so adverse that they would have put off all but owners of the St George's Cross.
Surely if Berba leaves for United which looks likely we will have to sign another striker. Does anyone know anything about this Nene character? I would have thought Ramos would go for Villa.
"I know more about smalz herring than I do about football."
Sugar. Nice one!
Just been watching the local news (being a Stockport Yid)that had the following from Garry Cooke City's Exec Chairman -
"City's future is not in jeopardy. In the short term its business as usual. We don't rely on Dr Thaksin's money" etc etc.....
I know loads of City fans and they all think they're in the sh1t!
Don't know how this will effect the chance of us getting Corluka but the goings on at City seem very strange. Not sure we can afford to wait around to see if we can get him as we look a bit short at the back, can you imagine if Ledders and Woody get injured we'd be looking at Dawson and Zokora or Thud! very worrying.
Reply to sydney wale:
Hail Cesar!
Hail - snow, rain, thunder, lighting - the lot! Julius in?
With Fergie saying he's in for Villa and Berbatov, it appears Rudolph up to his old mind games again. I this could be signal that we might just be waiting to close on Villa once the Berba sale goes through.
Just been informed by a source who I trust and who has been ever reliable in the past, that Corluka is quite tall.
Reply to BruceCastle:
With Fergie saying he's in for Villa and Berbatov, it appears Rudolph up to his old mind games again. I this could be signal that we might just be waiting to close on Villa once the Berba sale goes through.
I am going to fire my short-hand typist. It's so hard to find good help these days.
Reply to sid trotter:
Just been informed by a source who I trust and who has been ever reliable in the past, that Corluka is quite tall.
I used to talk to the gnomes in my garden. Real fonts of wisdom.
Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to sid trotter:Just been informed by a source who I trust and who has been ever reliable in the past, that Corluka is quite tall.
I used to talk to the gnomes in my garden. Real fonts of wisdom.
I keep my step ladder in our garden. We've never really had that closeness. Like I had with my real ladder.
'A ladder is simply a vertical or inclined set of rungs or steps. There are pictures of ladders on rock paintings which date back to over thousands of years. The original ladder was most probably made of tree trunks. From there the ladders progressed to a steadier wooden ladder and then to a rope ladder and now of course we have ladders made of aluminum and fiberglass.' LINK
And all this time I've been calling them Ledders.
Reply to 9__37:
'A ladder is simply a vertical or inclined set of rungs or steps. There are pictures of ladders on rock paintings which date back to over thousands of years. The original ladder was most probably made of tree trunks. From there the ladders progressed to a steadier wooden ladder and then to a rope...
And all this time I was told it was normal to keep my step mother out in the shed as well.
Are we really in for Nene? Is there anyone else who wishes to announce that Tottenham Hotspur have expressed an interest in him? Is everybody Spartacus?
Look forward to Sanchez being among the ranks. Seems an economical but decent recruitment. Only video-compo I watched of him on YouTube seemed rather edited. As if he saved the first and then let in the secondary shot. That's marketing, I suppose.
I still hope Smoothbum comes. The more protracted this becomes, however, the more concerned I am at his physical condition for the challenges ahead. Following right on the Euros, he commenced Zenit's campaign. Will he have enough energy for the medical?
Should he come, there'll be a bundle to be made this year on shirt-sales. Pick your star-name and your number. All good stuff, when you reflect that merchandise has to be factored into end-of-year profits. Even those iddly-piddly key-rings add up.
So, come on, Daniel. It's not often that Chairmen become legends. Become one. Now.
Nine_Thirty-Seven
Can't see that many heading down the Spurs Shop to get ARSHAVIN plastered all over their backs! Its not like he's been blessed with a beautifully translatable surname!
Same reason you probably wont see alot of folk with BENT's name on their shirts! lol
It's my opinion that Ramos has decided that strikers should have 1 job, put the ball in the net. It's up to the midfielders to provide the opportunities for this to happen. Last season we relied too much on K&B to provide their own goals, while the midfielders just watched. Now I feel that Ramos has taken some of the creative responsibility away from the strikers and given it mostly to the midfield. this means the strikers can push up a little more and remain in a threatening position rather than dropping deep to receive the ball. Which begs the question...... Does Berbatov fit in our system? Or is the replacement of Arshavin + £10m decent business....? Answers on a postcard.
PLN
If Bent is going to be our main striker this season then dont you think that we need a similar type player to replace him?
Its no good the midfield becoming used to the movement and style of play of one striker then having to change it when he needs to be replaced.
Bents game is all about playing on the last mans shoulder, running the channels and getting into the space behind and getting on the end of crosses with his head and his feet. I feel that by pushing someone like AA up top that we may become 1 dimensional as most of the balls will have to be into feet due to AA's height.
jamiespurs, I wouldn't welcome either of them on my back. So to speak. Ahem.
But I know what you mean about the name. But, listen, it could be worse. Suppose Brian Eno had taken up football instead of music. You've be looking at selling 'Brian Peter George St. John le Baptiste de la Salle Eno' instead.
Nine_Thirty-Seven
I can see it now, kids all around the parks and playgrounds of North London screaming, "I'm Arshavin!" OR "I want to be Bent!"
On a more serious note... Just seen this on the ESPNsoccernet website under the headline: Hughes considering future as City crisis deepens
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Expect Vedran Corluka to be househunting in leafy Hertfordshire any day now!
He played for Madrid against Leverkusen in the 2002 Champions League final. Berba came on as a sub for Leverkusen. Could be interesting at the training ground. Reckon Berba will ask Sanchez to show his winner's medal?
Reply to jamiespurs:
Nine_Thirty-Seven
I can see it now, kids all around the parks and playgrounds of North London screaming, "I'm Arshavin!" OR "I want to be Bent!"
On a more serious note... Just seen this on the ESPNsoccernet website under the headline: Hughes considering future as City...
"...But executive chairman Garry Cook has insisted Shinawatra remains committed to his '10-year vision' for the club."
He's just speeding it up a bit, going right for bin.
Can anyone tell me why we don't make a move for Barry? Is Veloso that much better - is there any truth in the Veloso rumour or is that a bored hack story?
'Fabio Capello has revealed that he warned Dean Ashton he must lose weight if he wants to further his England career.' LINK+Hammer+striker+Ashton%27s+told+to+get+rid+of+the+flab+by+Fabio/article.do
We know it. Fabio knows it. The whole world knows it. Only DC doesn't know it.
BruceCastle
"...But executive chairman Garry Cook has insisted Shinawatra remains committed to his '10-year vision' for the club."
I bet Frank Shinawatra's 10 year plan didnt involve getting convicted of a sackload of fraud and corruption charges whilst seeing his missus Potofjam on bail after being sentenced to 3 years bird!
Isn't it funny how lifes throws us all curve balls??
A '10-year vision' is, coincidentally, how the Thai judiciary system probably sees Thaksin's future.
Reply to 9__37:
A '10-year vision' is, coincidentally, how the Thai judiciary system probably sees Thaksin's future.
Seeing as the Cake box full of cash trick failed for Thaksin, I think even he cannot bribe his way out of this one! They really seem to be going after him and his wife in some fashion dont they?
Jamie, this is my point. I don't think Bent is going to be our first striker. He's not that lucky, he has the Jermaine Defoe Syndrome, constantly overlooked. I expect a pacy striker to come in. Oh and by the way, you don't need height to receive a ball running the channels, I dont understand your point there, I cant think of a goal in presesaon that Bent scored that Arshavin couldnt because of a height issue, can you?
guys........berba 2join utd for 28million.....by weekend....cast iron source at the lane
jamiespurs, the Thaksingate is beyond football, it's a diplomatic incident. I've always been surprised at how Sh1tty fans were eager to seize on his gains, despite the questionable means he is alleged to have used obtaining them. Add to that the allegations of human rights abuses, the guilt is spread by association.
The affair is a torrid humiliation for Sh1tty supporters, but it's a potential embarrassment for the Premier League and a pea under the mattress of our government.
I have sympathy for Corluka, who seems, by some accounts, to genuinely want to come to Spurs, irrespective of the political goings-on. I can only imagine his mind is even more made up to leave now. Whether he'll be permitted to or not we'll have to wait and see.
Either way, I assume we've seen the starting eleven for the Boro match. I'm genuinely excited about this new season and I can't help feeling that the players will breathe a collective sigh of relief if Berbatov goes. Yes, I'm guessing; and yes, the rumours may be BS; but I doubt it. We all want to see his future resolved, and I don't feel many would be convinced if it were announced he has decided to stay.
£28 million will do!
He will be lethal in that Utd team mind!
PLN
I think Bent will be our first choice striker, he has taken every one of his chances with aplomb in pre season. He's in form and at the start of the season form can count for alot. Bent is looking razor sharp and he's doing this when most players are just knocking the rust off there assorted talents. IMO Ramos would be a fool not to start with Bent against Boro.
A pacey striker?? Bent has pace does he not? and at times this pre-season he has shown that he has the hunger and desire that will make him first choice.
And on the height subject, i feel that we would be doing ourselves out of goals if we dont utilise the talents of players like Modric, Bentley, Bale, Hutton, they can all put good crosses into the box, with a short player like AA in there we would be missing out as any cross put into the mix would just come straight back out again!
It was rather abundatly clear at the Euro's and in the UEFA cup that AA is more of a CAM or deep lying striker than the kind of man you would want to spearhead an attack in the PL. If AA does join I'll expect to see him play out wide on the left with Bentley wide right. Not at the top as the lone striker.
Well from what I can gather, no-one wants him at Spurs (most importantly his team-mates), we'd rather not sell to Manure but if we have to we'll have a top quality replacement in for less than we get for Sir Sulkalot.
Reply to PLN:
Well from what I can gather, no-one wants him at Spurs (most importantly his team-mates), we'd rather not sell to Manure but if we have to we'll have a top quality replacement in for less than we get for Sir Sulkalot.
Put the Squirels in the Merc and have some change ready for the toll.
Also with Bent he will be even more buzzing if his England call up happens.
The bloke is a cert to start at the weekend and has every chance of doing a job for us.
We still need a defender and a striker to replace Berba.
Reply to Magoolio:
£28 million will do!
He will be lethal in that Utd team mind!
Fergie will have an awful lot of ego's to deal with in that Utd dressing room now! I can just imagine Rooney having a pop at Berba for being a lazy basta*d mid game!
In reality, he's served us well, given us a lot to shout about and in my eyes will always be a bit of a lane legend. I made my peace with him leaving at around about this time last year so i guess what i'm trying to say is, thanks Berba, for all the goals, tricks, flicks, craft and undeniable genius you bought to the blue & white half of north london. Never again will Wembley see a penalty as ice cold as the one you scored for us.
PLN - whatever the reason for the delay, at least we've hindered the commencement of Berbatov's and Manure's love-in.
Will Berbatov find it easy to settle in at such short-notice? I hope not. But, with his social skills and garrulous nature, I fear he'll be one of the lads and back-slapping-happy before you can say 'Brian Peter George St. John le Baptiste de la Salle Eno'.
I look forward to seeing him berated by Neville, Scholes and Shrek.
So.... £28m in the bank & £6m for Kaboul.
Who's on the shopping list??????
'We still need a defender and a striker to replace Berba.'
Magoolio - no one can do both at the same time.
Reply to jamiespurs:
So.... £28m in the bank & £6m for Kaboul.
Who's on the shopping list??????
I think the shopping's been done. I am sure Berba would not shown the door at the Lodge, until Levy and Ramos had another forward sorted.
Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to jamiespurs:So.... £28m in the bank & £6m for Kaboul.
Who's on the shopping list??????I think the shopping's been done. I am sure Berba would not shown the door at the Lodge, until Levy and Ramos had another forward sorted.
Mark Hughes is coming out of retirement for a packed lunch and an express train ticket out of Manchester. Let's make a swoop.
Jamie, we could have bought Crouch if we wanted to just lump it into the mixer. I think we are a bit better than that, I didn't say Bent had no pace, I said we'd sign a pacy striker..... Do you work for the Mirror? It might explain the twisting and misreading!! My point is this, We're going to have £20-£30m to buy a new striker, who will have all the right attributes to fit into Ramos' way of playing, so I ask you, If Ramos buys a striker for £30m odd, will Bent start in front of him?
Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to jamiespurs:So.... £28m in the bank & £6m for Kaboul.
Who's on the shopping list??????I think the shopping's been done. I am sure Berba would not shown the door at the Lodge, until Levy and Ramos had another forward sorted.
Agreed, I'm intruiged as to who it could be.
David Silva seems to be staying at Valencia. There's no way they could afford to keep both Silva and Villa. Could we be about to pull off the signing of the century and see Villa in a Spurs shirt??
I think Levy appears to have tired of all the shit that seems to have surrounded the AA deal and I think we may go in for him in january when they may be ready to deflate his price.
IMO
Corluka for £11m + ONE OTHER......
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to BruceCastle:Reply to jamiespurs:So.... £28m in the bank & £6m for Kaboul.
Who's on the shopping list??????I think the shopping's been done. I am sure Berba would not shown the door at the Lodge, until Levy and Ramos had another forward sorted.
Agreed, I'm intruiged as to who it could be.
David Silva seems to be staying at Valencia. There's no way they could afford to keep both Silva and Villa. Could we be about to pull off the signing of the century and see Villa in a Spurs shirt??
I think Levy appears to...
I think (hope) we'll know by Friday.
Villa, Veloso and Corluka. That'd by my wish list. Come on.
I think the delay in Berba moving is that Levy has decided to give him the job of organising the squad numbers for the current season. As usual he is taking his merry time to do anything! I hear he moves so slow if he stops he starts rolling backwards.
Reply to Magoolio:
£28 million will do!
He will be lethal in that Utd team mind!
Sorry Magoolio
I beg to differ. £28 isn't near enough to pay for Rednose and Manures shennanigans. For complete respect, I would want Dan Levy to say min £30 on principle. £10m more than Carrick on paper sounds good, but with a fit and motivated Berba in our squad, that would have given us loads more options than just the running into channels that our line up looks to have.
£30m+ minimum, and a little donation to our charity just for the complete piss take over the last year and a bit. If you look at it from another angle, with a largest amount of luck, and an all firing motivated Berba last season, we could have already made Champions League, and that extra £50m. Ok, a little far-fetched, but we're arming our competition, in the same way that we helped the Pools chances by selling Keane to them.
Reply to PLN:
Jamie, this is my point. I don't think Bent is going to be our first striker. He's not that lucky, he has the Jermaine Defoe Syndrome, constantly overlooked. I expect a pacy striker to come in. Oh and by the way, you don't need height to receive a ball running the channels, I dont understand your...
PLN - Re: "the Jermaine Defoe Syndrome". Shouldn't that read "...constantly offside"?
Reply to PLN:
Jamie, we could have bought Crouch if we wanted to just lump it into the mixer. I think we are a bit better than that, I didn't say Bent had no pace, I said we'd sign a pacy striker..... Do you work for the Mirror? It might explain the twisting and misreading!! My point is this, We're going to have...
I didnt say we had to lump it in the mixer did I?
My whole argument about Bent was that he runs the channels and gets into the space behind the defence (using his pace and power). It just so happens that he can use his head (something Crouch can't do btw!)
My point is that I dont see us going through the season without sticking some crosses into the box given that we have so many players that can deliver fantactic crosses and long range passes.
You look at our midfield and where is the height coming from? Its not only useful at attacking set pieces but for defending them too.
Unless David Villa comes in for around the £30m mark who else are we going to buy that could possibly cost that much money?? Its already become apparent that Levy will not pay anymore than £17m for AA and he's not even a striker!
Besides how can you deny Bent his chance? The guy has stuck it out, been through the lean times and put up with everyone doubting him. He's kept his head down, trained hard and fully embraced Ramos' new style of play. I'm sure given the chance and the full support of the fans we will see Benty rip up the PL this year!
Reply to BillNicksGhost:
Reply to PLN:Jamie, this is my point. I don't think Bent is going to be our first striker. He's not that lucky, he has the Jermaine Defoe Syndrome, constantly overlooked. I expect a pacy striker to come in. Oh and by the way, you don't need height to receive a ball running the channels, I dont understand your...
PLN - Re: "the Jermaine Defoe Syndrome". Shouldn't that read "...constantly offside"?
You see him shank that glorious chance in the first half against Utd on sunday?? Terrible JD, TERRIBLE!
Reply to Trembly:
Reply to Magoolio:£28 million will do!
He will be lethal in that Utd team mind!
Sorry Magoolio
I beg to differ. £28 isn't near enough to pay for Rednose and Manures shennanigans. For complete respect, I would want Dan Levy to say min £30 on principle. £10m more than Carrick on paper sounds good, but with a fit and motivated Berba in our squad, that would have given...
The season starts this weekend. There's no time for prancing around on the high horse of principal. We need a team in place that can gel before some of the tougher fixtures start heading our way at the end of the month. Sulkyberb no use to us if he's sulking. Look at his performance at WHL last sunday. We need to build upon the momentum of siging J2S, Modric, and Bentley. We need a blood thirsty striker and a DM/CM who isn't afraid to draw blood. And we need them now.
BillNick, mate, I so totally agree with you, I've tried to convince people before about Defoe's inability to stay onside and they were having none of it! Jamie, I'd love for Bent to get his chance! But I see what happened to JD with Spurs and twice with England happening to Bent as well. Whether right or wrong!
cant wait for berba to f**k off. he is such ungrateful git. we gave him a stage and gave him our hearts and he is saying thankyou and ta da!.....c**t
Reply to 9__37:
'We still need a defender and a striker to replace Berba.'
Magoolio - no one can do both at the same time.
Dean Ashton might be going for the "If you're big enough, you can" approach
We need a blood thirsty striker and a DM/CM who isn't afraid to draw blood. And we need them now.
That should be DM/CB
Reply to PLN:
BillNick, mate, I so totally agree with you, I've tried to convince people before about Defoe's inability to stay onside and they were having none of it! Jamie, I'd love for Bent to get his chance! But I see what happened to JD with Spurs and twice with England happening to Bent as well. Whether...
JD never did what Bent has done. Granted its only pre-season but the guy has been a one man goal scoring machine.
He's made us forget about Keane and even to an extent Berba. Defoe was never that good that we would be happy going into the season with him as the lone striker. Defoe was never one to take his chances, he always seemed to want to rocket the ball into the back of the net. You just have to see how many times in pre-season that Bent has slotted the ball past the keeper or between his legs to see that he has got supreme confidence and like i said, that kind of form in pre-season is lethal as the only thing he can do is get sharper as the real football kicks off. I'm confident that Bent with Gio in behind him will score plenty of goals this season.
Reply to BruceCastle:
We need a blood thirsty striker and a DM/CM who isn't afraid to draw blood. And we need them now.
That should be DM/CB
Exactly what we need!
As for Berba. Yeah a motivated Berba is worth £30 million but he is not motivated is he?
We need to get rid of him and Utd need him. The closer it gets to the end of the window the harder it will be to get a replacement in.
I reckon we will go for a cheap option until Jan or next summer. I just cannot see us signing a top striker in this window.
Reply to Magoolio:
Reply to BruceCastle:We need a blood thirsty striker and a DM/CM who isn't afraid to draw blood. And we need them now.
That should be DM/CB
Exactly what we need!
As for Berba. Yeah a motivated Berba is worth £30 million but he is not motivated is he?
We need to get rid of him and Utd need him. The closer it gets to the end of the window the harder it will be to get a replacement in.
I...
I can see it happening this week. Mr. Magoo, from what I've heard, you may need your eyesight checked.
Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to Magoolio:Reply to BruceCastle:We need a blood thirsty striker and a DM/CM who isn't afraid to draw blood. And we need them now.
That should be DM/CB
Exactly what we need!
As for Berba. Yeah a motivated Berba is worth £30 million but he is not motivated is he?
We need to get rid of him and Utd need him. The closer it gets to the end of the window the harder it will be to get a replacement in.
I...I can see it happening this week. Mr. Magoo, from what I've heard, you may need your eyesight checked.
I can see Berba going this week Bruce but i can not see us signing a top striker. We may get Arshavin but he is not a striker.
Reply to Magoolio:
Reply to BruceCastle:Reply to Magoolio:Reply to BruceCastle:We need a blood thirsty striker and a DM/CM who isn't afraid to draw blood. And we need them now.
That should be DM/CB
Exactly what we need!
As for Berba. Yeah a motivated Berba is worth £30 million but he is not motivated is he?
We need to get rid of him and Utd need him. The closer it gets to the end of the window the harder it will be to get a replacement in.
I...I can see it happening this week. Mr. Magoo, from what I've heard, you may need your eyesight checked.
I can see Berba going this week Bruce but i can not see us signing a top striker. We may get Arshavin but he is not a striker.
He's a 2nd Striker. We should think of him as a replacement for Berba. He was part of the old regime. We have a new look now. So replacement, is not really the right idea.
Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to Magoolio:Reply to BruceCastle:Reply to Magoolio:Reply to BruceCastle:We need a blood thirsty striker and a DM/CM who isn't afraid to draw blood. And we need them now.
That should be DM/CB
Exactly what we need!
As for Berba. Yeah a motivated Berba is worth £30 million but he is not motivated is he?
We need to get rid of him and Utd need him. The closer it gets to the end of the window the harder it will be to get a replacement in.
I...I can see it happening this week. Mr. Magoo, from what I've heard, you may need your eyesight checked.
I can see Berba going this week Bruce but i can not see us signing a top striker. We may get Arshavin but he is not a striker.
He's a 2nd Striker. We should think of him as a replacement for Berba. He was part of the old regime. We have a new look now. So replacement, is not really the right idea.
We should NOT think of him as a replacement for berba....
Arshavin is Robbie Keane's replacement. Younger, and a better player for less than we got for Keane.
Yes, 'replacements' are not what Ramos is seeking, because he's building a much more fluid, mobile team that itself will replace the old, more rigid role-based system. I'm not saying their won't be roles at all - striker's role, for example. His will be to score. Nowt much else. Goalie to save, but also to conduct the chants and sing-songs.
To be fair, Berbatov is irreplaceable, such are his talents (when he cares to use them). No matter. The method is king, not the megalomaniacal hit-man.
Aren't AA and Keane the same age at 28?? I knoW AA looks about 12 but he's not! lol
I'd totally agree, we aren't a team with strictly defined roles and positions, but obviously everyone has to work within a remit.
Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to BruceCastle:Reply to Magoolio:Reply to BruceCastle:Reply to Magoolio:Reply to BruceCastle:We need a blood thirsty striker and a DM/CM who isn't afraid to draw blood. And we need them now.
That should be DM/CB
Exactly what we need!
As for Berba. Yeah a motivated Berba is worth £30 million but he is not motivated is he?
We need to get rid of him and Utd need him. The closer it gets to the end of the window the harder it will be to get a replacement in.
I...I can see it happening this week. Mr. Magoo, from what I've heard, you may need your eyesight checked.
I can see Berba going this week Bruce but i can not see us signing a top striker. We may get Arshavin but he is not a striker.
He's a 2nd Striker. We should think of him as a replacement for Berba. He was part of the old regime. We have a new look now. So replacement, is not really the right idea.
We should NOT think of him as a replacement for berba....
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I think we should, as Arshavin or J2S will play behind Bent and the otherwill play on the left..... like so
--------------Gomes-------------------
Zokora --- Daws --- Woody --- Bale
--------------Jenas-------------------
-- Bentley -- Modric -- Arshavin --
------------ J2S --------------------
--------------- Bent ----------------
Or Visa Versa.
jamiespurs:
Keane: 8 July 80
Arshavin: 29 May 81
(Correct me if I'm wrong.)
Arshavin any day. New blood, new fire in the belly.
A year proves me wrong. As you may be aware, I'm not fully convinced that AA will be a success in the prem. He has been playing in the russian league all his career and has only just came to everyones attention. My theory is... if he was any good then how come players like Jarosik have made it over to the premier league when he hasn't?
That aside, if he can replicate the performance he put in against the dutch at Euro 2008 then he could be a good signing. I hope we dont pay more than £16m for him though, otherwise it could be a big risk.
Did you watch the video posted on here a while ago? Russian league or not, you dont score goals like that unless you are world-class.
Reply to kwakspur:
Reply to BruceCastle:Reply to BruceCastle:Reply to Magoolio:Reply to BruceCastle:Reply to Magoolio:Reply to BruceCastle:We need a blood thirsty striker and a DM/CM who isn't afraid to draw blood. And we need them now.
That should be DM/CB
Exactly what we need!
As for Berba. Yeah a motivated Berba is worth £30 million but he is not motivated is he?
We need to get rid of him and Utd need him. The closer it gets to the end of the window the harder it will be to get a replacement in.
I...I can see it happening this week. Mr. Magoo, from what I've heard, you may need your eyesight checked.
I can see Berba going this week Bruce but i can not see us signing a top striker. We may get Arshavin but he is not a striker.
He's a 2nd Striker. We should think of him as a replacement for Berba. He was part of the old regime. We have a new look now. So replacement, is not really the right idea.
We should NOT think of him as a replacement for berba....
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I think we should, as Arshavin or J2S will play behind Bent and the otherwill play on the left..... like so
--------------Gomes-------------------
Zokora --- Daws --- Woody --- Bale
--------------Jenas-------------------
-- Bentley -- Modric -- Arshavin --
...
nice team but what happens when Bent gets injured?
Exactly!
Even if we aren't going to play a rigid 442 we still need another bent or no9 type player in the squad that can play alone up front or in a 2(like Berba can) to give him competition and cover for injuries and so if berba goes im sure we'll see us getting another player like that in, a pavlyuchenko type for example.
AA like keane would give us great options across the pitch and remember Keane was intended to be part of the revolution until he walked and so AA has to be seen as filling his place in the squad if he comes.
We will buy another striker Magoo, probably Villa, Im sure as soon as Berba goes he'll come in, so maybe Villa will start most of the games and not bent. But i think Bent will play for atleast the 1st month or so, till Villa gets to the fitness Ramos wants.
Reply to PLN:
Did you watch the video posted on here a while ago? Russian league or not, you dont score goals like that unless you are world-class.
I could make a youtube video of all the good things i've done in a 5-a-side team over the last few years and cobble together 3mins of goals!! lol
I get what your saying but dont you think that along with all the pundits and journalists that we may have been sucked in by all the hype that surrounded him?
Be fair the guy played well against a shit Rangers team in the UEFA cup final. Then he played well against a terrible Greece side and a second rate swedish team in the Euro's. The dutch side were of a better calibre but were always suspect when asked to defend. Once he came up against a team that was any good in Spain, Marcos Senna marked him out the game. I mean he didnt get a look in all game! This is also the same guy who did nothing against a really poor england side in the qualifiers too.
Trust me, if he signs I would love him to prove me wrong and become an absolute hero at White Hart Lane but as it stands I hope we do what Barca did and tell Zenit that its £12m or nothing.
jamiespurs, don't worry about the money. Levy won't allow himself to get mugged.
Spurs have been in for Arshavin for a long time. If he came to no one else's attention before the Euro's, he certainly came to ours. Harry highlighted this a long while back on the old blog. So long ago was it, in fact, that I was surprised when the prospect was mooted again. So surprised was I that I dismissed it as a realistic aspiration for Spurs, as the player had by then come to greater prominence and wider appreciation.
The fact that we seem to be so close to signing him is now only a cause of frustration for me, as I thought the opportunity had been missed the first time round.
Sorry, i just cant see Villa coming to us.
AA only wants to cos no CL team wants him and as much as we are improving, Villa's going to have better options...like Real Madrid! And are we really going to double our transfer record in 1 deal? Like i've said before i'm sure ramos is trying to get 2 for the berba money - AA and one other.
I'll be the first to cheer (and set up a shrine to levy and Ramos) if we did get him though.
We wont be hoofing the ball up to the strikers so we dont NEED a tall striker, as you've seen in pre season and with the players we've bought, its going to be all through ball and passing teams off the park.
So Villa will be perfect as he's a Class finisher.
Sign everyone! Arshavin, Villa, Veloso, Corluka, even Fray Bentos and Sparky. Sign them all.
Reply to kwakspur:
We wont be hoofing the ball up to the strikers so we dont NEED a tall striker, as you've seen in pre season and with the players we've bought, its going to be all through ball and passing teams off the park.
So Villa will be perfect as he's a Class finisher.
I'm not saying we will be hoofing the ball up top but it would help in many situations if we had someone with Bents height up top. It would help if we did need to knock itlong, it would make the most of the crossing ability that players like Bentley and Bent have and his height also gives him more of a physical presence.
That said if Villa comes i'll actually change my name to Juande Ramos out of sheer awe and respect!
The simple answer is "No I didnt see the video" If your class, you'll stand out, it doesnt matter who the oppo is, the goals he was scoring were incredible. I suggest you take a look. I know Youtube can make people look better than they are, but they have to be of a certain standard to find good highlights, that video had me shaking my head at some of the stuff he was pulling! Think Ginola mixed with Keane with the finishing Ruud Van Nistelrooy.
jamiespurs, do you mean your real name or your moniker?
All will become clear in due course. Players, positions, style. Keep the faith. It's going to be good putting the wind up the top four.
It is all well and good knocking it along the ground and saying we don't need a tall striker but you have to remember we will not have the ball all the time and that there will be set pieces to defend.
I really can not see Villa coming to us. I would love it to happen but i can not see it.
I personally think we may get someone on the cheap (maybe a promising youngster from the lower divisions) as well as Arshavin.
Reply to Magoolio:
It is all well and good knocking it along the ground and saying we don't need a tall striker but you have to remember we will not have the ball all the time and that there will be set pieces to defend.
I really can not see Villa coming to us. I would love it to happen but i can not...
We have a youngster in Pekhart 6 goals in 7 appearances for Czech U21s. But that will not be solution Ramos is looking for at this stage. We are looking for seasoped finishers.
It will be someone worth his salt and it will happen soon. Have faith in Lord Levy.
Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to Magoolio:It is all well and good knocking it along the ground and saying we don't need a tall striker but you have to remember we will not have the ball all the time and that there will be set pieces to defend.
I really can not see Villa coming to us. I would love it to happen but i can not...We have a youngster in Pekhart 6 goals in 7 appearances for Czech U21s. But that will not be solution Ramos is looking for at this stage. We are looking for seasoped finishers.
It will be someone worth his salt and it will happen soon. Have faith in Lord Levy.
seasoned too.
Right this is a little weird but......
I signed into the official spurs site and it looked a bit different! The main difference was a bright orange "Breaking News Banner"!!! Now all it said was BREAKING NEWS and when I clicked on it it went to an old story nothing exciting at all! When I refreshed the home page the orange breaking news section was gone! VERY STRANGE!
I wonder weather the designers have been told to create something eyecatching for some special news which might happen soon???
Very strange indeed!!!
Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to BruceCastle:Reply to Magoolio:It is all well and good knocking it along the ground and saying we don't need a tall striker but you have to remember we will not have the ball all the time and that there will be set pieces to defend.
I really can not see Villa coming to us. I would love it to happen but i can not...We have a youngster in Pekhart 6 goals in 7 appearances for Czech U21s. But that will not be solution Ramos is looking for at this stage. We are looking for seasoped finishers.
It will be someone worth his salt and it will happen soon. Have faith in Lord Levy.seasoned too.
Hope you are right Bruce otherwise we will get caught out over the course of a Premiership season,
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to kwakspur:We wont be hoofing the ball up to the strikers so we dont NEED a tall striker, as you've seen in pre season and with the players we've bought, its going to be all through ball and passing teams off the park.
So Villa will be perfect as he's a Class finisher.I'm not saying we will be hoofing the ball up top but it would help in many situations if we had someone with Bents height up top. It would help if we did need to knock itlong, it would make the most of the crossing ability that players like Bentley and Bent have and his height also gives him more...
Get Ready then.
I past seasons we've had 1 or maybe two big signings, but this year is totally different, you dont spend all this money to have critics saying, "another false dawn".
I was watching SSN and saw Phil Thompson and Charlie Nicolas saying they both thought eachothers teams would miss out on top 4 to Spurs.
So FUCK Andy (I didnt have the guts to take the Everton job when i had the chance, but love to criticise players and managers with Pentagon computer) Gray.
Cant wait for us to ram those words down his mouth
stop getting me all worked up!
villa/arshavin - either deal is too much to comprehend for my old brain accustomed to the dean austin/colin calderwood/chris armstrong days.
iverson and doherty.
those were the days.
none of these big time charlies.
Reply to mcmuffin:
stop getting me all worked up!
villa/arshavin - either deal is too much to comprehend for my old brain accustomed to the dean austin/colin calderwood/chris armstrong days.
As long he has a Colin Lee debut.
Reply to banger:
Right this is a little weird but......
I signed into the official spurs site and it looked a bit different! The main difference was a bright orange "Breaking News Banner"!!! Now all it said was BREAKING NEWS and when I clicked on it it went to an old story nothing exciting at all! When I...
Reply to 9__37:
Reply to banger:Right this is a little weird but......
I signed into the official spurs site and it looked a bit different! The main difference was a bright orange "Breaking News Banner"!!! Now all it said was BREAKING NEWS and when I clicked on it it went to an old story nothing exciting at all! When I...
Quality!
Can I just mention
HEATHER McCARTNEY.....
COOOORRRRRRRRRR!!!!
Just for those having a late dinner...ummmmm
HighburySpur, you'll be putting Harry off his favourite food.LINK
3 words: Horses for Courses
Straight out of the horses....er, General Ramos' mouth.
Big man - Little man every game? Thats a Pompey game now with our old cast offs. What our General will do is to employ the best team for each occasion under each condition.
Spain won the Euro's playing with the fluid dynamic midfield, with a little man up front. Against particular opposition, we may not need the extra height.
Similarly, whichever striker/ MF/ DF, superstar or otherwise that arrives, will compliment the rest of the squad, so that we have enough cover for each 'nominated role' out of the veritable cookbook or game plans that our General has in store. This will also feature at some stage, a chapter on when to use fresh ingredients - allowing them to add their youthful flavours to more mature subtleties.
As for you Highburyspur - you'll need better goggles. Stop borrowing Mr.Magoo's pint glass spectacles and wrap your corneas around these LINK
Mmmmm Euro wags.....droool
whoops - somethings up with oleole or is it just my clockwork typewriter tv thingy?
Miasmic. I'd go for miasmic, Trembly.
You're right about General Ramos selecting horses for courses. Less rotation policy, more strategic deployment.
Miasma I used to think that was when someone was explaining their need for an inhaler. Just looked up your word though - thats a scrabble triple word score surely! Ever been on Countdown?
Reply to dave:
guys........berba 2join utd for 28million.....by weekend....cast iron source at the lane
and then Villa to WHL thereafter for 31 mill
Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to jamiespurs:So.... £28m in the bank & £6m for Kaboul.
Who's on the shopping list??????I think the shopping's been done. I am sure Berba would not shown the door at the Lodge, until Levy and Ramos had another forward sorted.
Villa it is then BC
Reply to kwakspur:
We will buy another striker Magoo, probably Villa, Im sure as soon as Berba goes he'll come in, so maybe Villa will start most of the games and not bent. But i think Bent will play for atleast the 1st month or so, till Villa gets to the fitness Ramos wants.
my thoughts exactly kwak
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oooh HH!!!! So close but the Official Site just beat you to it! Give you the benefit of the doubt though ; )
Any word on Veloso or Arshavin...?