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The Case Against Ferguson - A Fascinating Exclusive

Sunday, 20 July 08, 07:19 AM · Comments (124)

 

The Grump From Goven's face is now the same colour as his nose. Only this time it isn't down the Oom Pah Pah.

I can exclusively reveal the evidence against Sir Alex.

And whilst the global media spin was spun, the most interesting activity of all was tucked away on a Norwegian web site. Everybody was looking for Neil Custis's original piece from Friday's edition of The Sun. This contained the quotes that Levy was supposedly hanging Ferguson by.

But the real story was quietly being removed from a Manchester United Supporters Club site in Norway.

The piece in question was an exclusive interview Sir Alex Ferguson gave to the editor of an officially MUFC endorsed Scandanavian Man Utd fanzine prior to the team jetting off for some preseason in South Africa.

This is, or rather was the url. http://www.united.no/united/nyheter/...berbatov_kjoep . As you can see it's been removed. UPDATE: Try this: http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:KL0KEpYMF7YJ:www.united.no/united/nyheter/nyheter/tror_paa_berbatov_kjoep+www.united.no/united/nyheter/nyheter/tror_paa_berbatov_kjoep&hl=da&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=dk

Fortunately I managed to get a translated copy the text from a Nowegian Man Utd fan posting on a Man Utd forum. 

- "We have submitted a bid for Bebatov, and we're optimistic about the prospect of signing him. He's impressed over a long period of time and would make a good addition to the squad", SAF says.

He admits that he would love to bring Berbatov to the pre-season tour to RSA, but says that the clubs is in no rush.

- "We're in no rush and are hopeful to stage constructive negotiations with Tottenham soon."

Ironically, the translated piece concludes with...

Asked about Ronaldo, he didn't want to say much apart from "dealing with the matter it in a correct way".

So that's what I have. Presumption I am told is the mother of all fuck ups, but I guess Levy has this and presumably more. There's a whisper he has much, but what I know not - and it's pointless speculating.  

The case against Liverpool is more straightforward. Their Premier League rule flouting halfwit stood on chair,  on SSN, shouting into a loudhailer, 'I am Rafa Benitez, footballer manager and I much like to buy Robbie Keane. Is not rat. Is hamster."

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scar88
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1. scar88 Wrote: | 14.46BST | Jul 20, 2008

fucking love it!

toddspur
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2. toddspur Wrote: | 14.52BST | Jul 20, 2008

god i hope they drag old red nose through the crud on this and you never know he may withdraw his interest in Berbs.....not sure i want him back now. Rather Barca came in and paid 20 mill than those cnuts having him.

As for RK, well egg and face springs to mind when the scousers get on one knee and say they have no money

good work H

SNOWYID
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3. SNOWYID Wrote: | 14.52BST | Jul 20, 2008

about time mancscum got took down a peg or 5, points deduction anyone, as for deadpool lol bang to rights, what an idiot, but lets face it guys can we really see the PL doing anything about this coz i cant.

CD Rizzla
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4. CD Rizzla Wrote: | 14.52BST | Jul 20, 2008

Good work Harry, i along with others believe that Levy has much more which he has already been through with an extensive legal team.

Would also like to give Kudos to the Liverpool fans out there who have made far less of this than the man u fans. A number of Pool fans have said they will stand by the club but are disgusted in the way it has been operated. Apposed to the man u fans who have just really resorted to name calling and at this stage ar feeling comfortable listening to the clueless drivel from the media who now believe Fergie's comments later about the man u legal team where to form a case to sue Spurs apposed to properly go over spurs allegations.

Spurs Dude
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5. Spurs Dude Wrote: | 14.53BST | Jul 20, 2008

Nice 1 HH.
Let's see if Rudolph can blag his way out of that..... 8)
Sell the guy to Barca.... 8)

Bert simkins
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6. Bert simkins Wrote: | 14.54BST | Jul 20, 2008

If it goes the same way as 'chelea gate' do we insist on them losing 3 points or do we negotiate for a sackfull of them 'norven beans' or whatever currency their using these days?

Noel Hamilton
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7. Noel Hamilton Wrote: | 14.54BST | Jul 20, 2008

Harry,
i love this site and i am with you on most of the topics.
I have a funny feeling that we are going to land Villa.
Oh i have a spurs scout coming to watch my son and a few other kids in the Foyle cup in Derry next week so wish Daniel and all the rest of the kids good luck guys, you might just be cheering one of them on over the next few years and i can assure you that this is one Irishman that will be playing for the team that he loves,COYS>

toddspur
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8. toddspur Wrote: | 14.55BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to CD Rizzla:

Good work Harry, i along with others believe that Levy has much more which he has already been through with an extensive legal team.

Would also like to give Kudos to the Liverpool fans out there who have made far less of this than the man u fans. A number of Pool fans have said they...

Very good point Riz, they know they aint got enough cash at the moment so unlike that bottomless pit at old stratford they best keep stum for a while.

QuietAtTheLibrary
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9. QuietAtTheLibrary Wrote: | 14.56BST | Jul 20, 2008

Regardless of what the red nosed twat said or didn't say, Levy would never have penned that letter without evidence. Levy is bloody bright (1st Cambridge) and the drunk with the brain capacity of Jade Goody.

Sell the miserable prick to barca even if it means 5-7mil less.

Keane, you can sit on the bench and moan like a tart as far as I'm concerned you c&&t!

franco
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10. franco Wrote: | 14.57BST | Jul 20, 2008

That's right, I've actually seen that. I'm a Norwegian journalist and a Spurs fan and at work we have a pretty good overview on what happens on Norwegian sites and such. I must say that I was very surprised that the Norwegian Supporters mag got an interview with Ferguson, but then again United have a shocking 20.000 members in their Norwegian fan club and Fergusun does have connection to the Norwegian fans through Solskjær. However, the link did't work for me know, have they removed it allready? I do think that the story was correct, as making up quotes is totally unheard of in the Norwegian media, but one can of course ask how much a sloppy comment to a foreign supporters magazine really affects stuff in England. But I can at least confirm that it was published here the other day in in interview they claim they made right before they travelled to South Africa.

Cocker
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11. Cocker Wrote: | 14.57BST | Jul 20, 2008

It's not so much Fergie in all this, he's not been as bad as Rafael "I've tapped up more times than a typist" Benitez. Berbatov was always keen to move on so he was unsettled when he knew his stock went up following a sublime debut season.
Keano however, regardless of what he said in the media about "loving the club" and "wanting to see out his career" (or whatever other arse-kissing serenades did emerge from his mouth), was NOT unsettled.

Harry - you know as well as the rest of us know that the Premier League will do sweet FA. The best we can hope for is Ramos pulling his finger out and finding us a new strike force which:

a) Doesn't rely on the many talents of Darren Bent (namely to bring down a Charlton Athletic-esque long ball and hope for the best)
b) Isn't made up of two obscure 30-something Spaniards found lingering in the reserves of Valencia or a similar team.

COYS!

toddspur
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12. toddspur Wrote: | 14.57BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to Noel Hamilton:

Harry,
i love this site and i am with you on most of the topics.
I have a funny feeling that we are going to land Villa.
Oh i have a spurs scout coming to watch my son and a few other kids in the Foyle cup in Derry next week so wish Daniel and all the rest of the kids good luck...

noel, wish your son luck mate, best keep an eye out for Simon Jordon though!

TheSchoolboy
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13. TheSchoolboy Wrote: | 15.00BST | Jul 20, 2008

"Is not rat. Is hamster"

I presume you are refering to the half swallowed mammal that is protruding over the fat spaniards chin in the guise of a beard.

He's had a bollocking coming off the FA for a while. Just look at the whole Gareth Barry saga. WANKER!!

SAF is a tosser, To quote an over-used cliche, "I'd LOVE it, just LOVE it" if he gets a kickikng off the FA. Still won't stop berbs fucking off though.

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14. Yid Wrote: | 15.00BST | Jul 20, 2008

Hi

I've heard that because we (Spurs) are a PLC that Levy has to be certain about what Ferguson has said - if not then Levy can be sacked.

GaffaJol
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15. GaffaJol Wrote: | 15.00BST | Jul 20, 2008

Unless we are really in need of the money - I would do a deal with Barca or ANY other club and sell for ÂŁ10.7mill (what we paid?) - plus a hefty (35-40%) sell on clause and a bunch of others add-ons such as 'X' amount after every honour won while hes played in at least 1 game or something like that. Until it was bumped up to the ÂŁ23-ÂŁ28million.

But we should certainly NOT sell to ManUtd... you shouldnt sell to the competition to your own detriment and definately not when theyre going about it the way ManUtd are.

JapanSpur
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16. JapanSpur Wrote: | 15.00BST | Jul 20, 2008

I still don't think that publicly stating your wish to buy a player is clear cut "tapping up". Surely you would have to prove that they made the statements in order to turn the players' heads, and that is difficult to prove. If they did, in fact, make an offer then he is just stating a fact, no? The fact that they are confident of signing the player(s) (despite having an offer turned down) could just be that they are willing to increase their offer and are optimistic.

Of course I see that Ferguson's comments (and Rafa's) are annoying, but don't see how a case can really be brought against them. If I am wrog, someone please tell me why.

QuietAtTheLibrary
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17. QuietAtTheLibrary Wrote: | 15.02BST | Jul 20, 2008

I just want Levy to sell Berba to Barca, just to see the pricks face; even if we get 5mil less... :)

toddspur
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18. toddspur Wrote: | 15.02BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to JapanSpur:

I still don't think that publicly stating your wish to buy a player is clear cut "tapping up". Surely you would have to prove that they made the statements in order to turn the players' heads, and that is difficult to prove. If they did, in fact, make an offer then he is just stating a fact, no?...

I believe they need to gain permission to speak to Berbatov, thats the issue here,,,,,,happy to be corrected though?

QuietAtTheLibrary
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19. QuietAtTheLibrary Wrote: | 15.04BST | Jul 20, 2008

Japanstar: you're correct. It so hard to prove that's why he's being so cocky.

Nothing will come of this as both clubs don't want to drag this through the courts and papers.

Still, Levy, stick with your guns my friend... :D

JapanSpur
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20. JapanSpur Wrote: | 15.07BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to toddspur:

Reply to JapanSpur:

I still don't think that publicly stating your wish to buy a player is clear cut "tapping up". Surely you would have to prove that they made the statements in order to turn the players' heads, and that is difficult to prove. If they did, in fact, make an offer then he is just stating a fact, no?...

I believe they need to gain permission to speak to Berbatov, thats the issue here,,,,,,happy to be corrected though?

But he doesn't seem to have admitted that he spoke to Berbatov, only that he was hoping to have "constructive conversations with Tottenham." If the players asked to leave because they heard of their interest in the newspaper, then it isn't clear cut tapping up. I'm sure that they were in fact tapped up, but, from what has been revealed, we don't seem to have any evidence of that.

toddspur
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21. toddspur Wrote: | 15.21BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to JapanSpur:

Reply to toddspur:
Reply to JapanSpur:

I still don't think that publicly stating your wish to buy a player is clear cut "tapping up". Surely you would have to prove that they made the statements in order to turn the players' heads, and that is difficult to prove. If they did, in fact, make an offer then he is just stating a fact, no?...

I believe they need to gain permission to speak to Berbatov, thats the issue here,,,,,,happy to be corrected though?

But he doesn't seem to have admitted that he spoke to Berbatov, only that he was hoping to have "constructive conversations with Tottenham." If the players asked to leave because they heard of their interest in the newspaper, then it isn't clear cut tapping up. I'm sure that they were in fact...

ok i see what your saying, i still think something aint right here, as said earlier Levy is bright spark so theres more to it than this.

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22. Valtrane Wrote: | 15.22BST | Jul 20, 2008

I think we should follow the Ferguson-Ronaldo stance and rather have them rot in the stands for the remainder of their contracts than sell them.

I can't help but feel that those two going could be a blessing in disguise.

theoriginaldannyboy
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23. theoriginaldannyboy Wrote: | 15.32BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to TheSchoolboy:

"Is not rat. Is hamster"

I presume you are refering to the half swallowed mammal that is protruding over the fat spaniards chin in the guise of a beard.

He's had a bollocking coming off the FA for a while. Just look at the whole Gareth Barry saga. WANKER!!
...

I think Harry is actually referring to an episode of Fawlty Towers when the dumb spanish waiter (Benitez) has a rat for a pet and thinks it's a hamster. Sorry, showing my age here.

as for the blog topic - 100% well researched H. Let's see the Scottish prick wriggle out of this; it's about time the 'little' clubs stood up to the 'big' clubs. Go on Levy my son. And I still say the sooner them 2 traitors leave, the better. Put them on gardening leave - that's what happens in industry.

coys

welshspur2307
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24. welshspur2307 Wrote: | 15.34BST | Jul 20, 2008

Two points.
1. Man Utd refused to sell Heinze to Liverpool as they didn't want him going to a rival. Spurs should do the same with DB, lower the asking price slightly and send him off to the continent.
2. If Alex Ferguson uses the same legal team to sue Levy as Utd used in their complaint to UEFA against Real Madrid then our chairman shouldn't have much to worry about.

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25. emad nimah Wrote: | 15.38BST | Jul 20, 2008

Unless the case goes to a legal court, the pro United and biased League and FA committees will make Ferguson look like a Spurs victim. In a legal court the red nose would be embarrassingly exposed of this and past misdeeds.

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26. robbieboy Wrote: | 15.54BST | Jul 20, 2008

So since Ramos has come in, looks like the whole team will change. Martin Jol's legacy well and truly done and dusted, some by choice, some by greed... and forced hand.
No chance of the two former greats rotting in the reserves, being a PLC, they wouldn't be able to account the 120K a week going to two players sitting in the reserves. Much though we'd all like that! Best we can hope for is getting some good money... Or perhaps swap deal for Berba to Barca, and Etoo in the other direction, love Berba to be told by Levy. You want to leave, then leave, but you wont be joining UTD. Barca he'd still go there like a shot anyhow... Re Etoo also eems like his list of suitors has twindled substanitally, so may also be of interest. Then use the rest of the money from Keane's transfer and sunderland deals to go get Villa... what you reckon guys?

sonicdreams
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27. sonicdreams Wrote: | 15.54BST | Jul 20, 2008

This is the Google translation of a cached (17 Jul 08) version of the missing Norwegian webpage: LINK

QuietAtTheLibrary
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28. QuietAtTheLibrary Wrote: | 16.12BST | Jul 20, 2008

Excellent work sonicdreams :D

Fuck of Man USA you pricks!

Simon
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29. Simon Wrote: | 16.18BST | Jul 20, 2008

I believe one of the main issues is that Levy says, he has eveidence that both clubs have spoken to Berbs adm keane's agents and the players, without permission. IF he has that, they should nail Rafa and Fergie to the fucking wall. Deduct 10 points (as per Luton a while back) and fine the fuck out of them

-Simon

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30. ross wireless Wrote: | 16.22BST | Jul 20, 2008

No to rotting in reserves yes to selling abroad, as for keane gutted my hero even named the dog after him ! Gio it is then :o need to get this sorted soon bring in one more striker and a class midfielder sorted we will win nowt though ...

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31. CrossWaddle Wrote: | 16.29BST | Jul 20, 2008

Hmm, intriguing the way the official site has put robbie back on the front page. (They switched the pic yesterday to a really shoddy/hurried one of Modric in Croatian kit and Geo).

Bit odd, the wee wheeler playing a half yesterday n'all.

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32. Franco Wrote: | 16.35BST | Jul 20, 2008

My translation of the story:

Believes in Berbatov-deal

It was an upbeat and positive sir Alex that met with united.no right before the clubs departure to South Africa. He believes that the Berbatov-deal will go trough.

The United-manager let there be no doubt that he wants a new striker at Old Trafford before the transfer deadline at august 31, and it is Tottenham's Berbatov that he ha cast his eyes upon. Tottenham turned down United's first offer of 20 million ÂŁ, but Sir Alex still thinks that the Bulgarian international will be teamed up with Rooney, Tevez and the rest. Ferguson noticed Berbatov the first time in the 2001/2002-season when he and Bayer Leverkusen knocked United out of the Champions League semi-final. Now Berbatov once again wants to play in the Chempions League, and have let Spurs know this in no uncertain terms.

We have made one offer for Berbatov, and we have high hopes that we can sign him. He has been impressive for a long time now, and he can make a fine addition to our squad, Sir Alex says exclusively to United.no.

Ferguson says that time is working for, and not against, United in this matter. He would have liked Berbatov to come with the rest of the team to South Africa, but is prepared to play it cool.

- We're not rushing things, and we are hoping to get into constructive negotiations with Tottenham soon, Ferguson says.

(unfortunately I had no english spell-check on my computer) :)

The story then goes on about ronaldo...

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33. Hamish Wrote: | 16.36BST | Jul 20, 2008

Predatory clubs are only allowed to talk to players under contract with the permission of the club holding his contract. The club holding the contract is under no obligation to tell the player that an approach has been made. It is Spurs' prerogative to announce that Manure have made an approach for a specific player - not Manure's. The rules are there to stop clubs unsettling other teams' players. By announcing in the media that they had made an offer for a specific player: Berbatov, they broke the rules. SAF is tapping-up via the media. The fact that he didn't talk to him directly is neither here nor there.

The Voice of Reason
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34. The Voice of Reason Wrote: | 16.40BST | Jul 20, 2008

A translation from a Norwegian website, you are joking right ?

You need a bit more proof than that, like some real evidence that he actually said it.

In the absence of a video or tape recording, or the written testimony of eyewitnesses Levys statement is libelous, and the only person in hot water is Levy.

You see a statement published on your own website is undeniably you, but a statement in a newspaper or on a Norwegian website might well be a fabrication unless it can be absolutely proven otherwise - Which you have no evidence of.

I do have sympathy for what is happening to you, but your klutz of a chairman doesn't help things by jumping in with both boots and libeling people - Doh.

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35. mcoys Wrote: | 16.45BST | Jul 20, 2008

anyone sean ferdinands piece in the star? "im a spurs fan but if you want to win anything you have to leave spurs" what a c**t.

HarryHotspur
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36. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 16.48BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to The Voice of Reason:

A translation from a Norwegian website, you are joking right ?

You need a bit more proof than that, like some real evidence that he actually said it.

In the absence of a video or tape recording, or the written testimony of eyewitnesses Levys statement is libelous, and the...

The Voice Of Reason? More like the sound of someone whistling in the dark. Levy's case isn't presented here, rather something I dug up after breakfast which I feel may constitute part of what he is going to throw at Ferguson.

So you might like to wait and saee what unfolds, then comment.

Or you might prefer to come on here, make some sneery comments.. and then fuck off back into the void.

How is he a klutz? In fact please, don't respond. Just run along and go be amazing somewhere else.

Spursexile
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37. Spursexile Wrote: | 17.00BST | Jul 20, 2008

Harry
I think this is the best Spurs fans' website. great humour and tongue wedged tightly in cheek.
I go with those who say sell Berbs abroad, if for no other reason than i'll get sick of hearing how Manure discovered him because Spurs will get no credit.
Anyway, what's the latest on other exits - we've got a whole third eleven to get rid of.

Stokey yid
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38. Stokey yid Wrote: | 17.02BST | Jul 20, 2008

As a plc company, Levy will have no choice but to sell, we are a plc first then football club, he has a duty to do right by the clubs shareholders.
I think we should seriously consider Huntlear, Capel, and Bently.We could then move on as a club.
Paying ÂŁ32m for David villa is crazy, even if we won the champions league we would only make that back.We should stick to our guns and buy young hungry up and coming players like Huntlear and then give Bent his chance with a much improved midfield.

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39. Archie Wrote: | 17.03BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to The Voice of Reason:

A translation from a Norwegian website, you are joking right ?

You need a bit more proof than that, like some real evidence that he actually said it.

In the absence of a video or tape recording, or the written testimony of eyewitnesses Levys statement is libelous, and the...

The voice of a bleedin plank if you ask me. Firstly, Levy has said nothing libelous and furthermore, if you read his statement and I quote, "and we now have evidence" do you really think he would be whistling in the wind?

Get back under your rock you cock!

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40. Indyfan Wrote: | 17.22BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to toddspur:

god i hope they drag old red nose through the crud on this and you never know he may withdraw his interest in Berbs.....not sure i want him back now. Rather Barca came in and paid 20 mill than those cnuts having him.

As for RK, well egg and face springs to mind when the scousers get...

I suspect Levy has a lot more ammo than an unguarded comment or two by Ferguson. This has been going on for over a year, and my guess is that there have been numerous contacts between Manure people and Dantchev/Berbatov, promising double his wages etc etc. If a court case ensues people will be put on oath and all the dirty business will come out.

robbieboy
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41. robbieboy Wrote: | 17.34BST | Jul 20, 2008

What about Aguero from Athletico, he's young and fits the bill...

Happyhotspur
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42. Happyhotspur Wrote: | 17.43BST | Jul 20, 2008

Some points - if Mr Levy has evidence I hope he uses it to fully take Rudolph apart. My concern lately is that even though Spurs now have a manager who looks like he knows what he's doing (won a cup within 16 weeks of arriving)our most effective duo appear to want to leave and that indicates they dont believe thay will reach the heights they feel they can do elswhare with Spurs. That message really hurts and what are the other players thinking? Doesn't instil much confidence in the up and coming lads does it? I agree though - sell DB abraod - never to EPL club, if we sell our best to our competitors we'll always be behind them in terms of acheivement. We love Spurs and are hopeful for a good season but losing both DB and RK sends so many negatives to our players, fans and gives the competition a huge boost. Faith in Ramos - COYS.

J
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43. J Wrote: | 18.12BST | Jul 20, 2008

We all know how capable & intelligent Levy is.No club is able to spend the kind of money we had done so for the last couple of seasons without CL football.
He is no idiot who base his statements on tabloid gossips. Rafa and Fergie is using the media to affect Berba and Keane.
It's kind of preemptive actions on the part of Levy; stop it or else...
It's heartening also, it's clear intention on the part of Levy not to sell.The top man spoke & thats it. You just wouldn't want to strain the relationships with club you intend to do business with.
Why the public confession that both players want to leave ?
3 possible reasons.You can never say never when someone come with over top offers.Put the blame on the players for any such possible scenarios.Secondly, its clear that now Levy wouldn't sell to a top 4 side.Lastly, it's a coded message to Berba and Keane, buck up or be publicly shame and honor the contract.
Top man Levy, we salute you.

tim
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44. tim Wrote: | 18.25BST | Jul 20, 2008

read this

And last night a Spurs spokesperson said: “With regard to United, we have confirmed comments came from Sir Alex talking at a supporters’ meeting.

“Our evidence will be submitted to the Premier League, all checked by our lawyers. We would not have said what we said without substantial evidence.

“And it is worth asking Alex Ferguson if he is happy to confirm that at no point has anyone from Old Trafford ever spoken to the player or his agent given that Tottenham has never given permission.”

they have broken the rules, and our lawyers are 100% confident with our evidence.

the pl cant keep sweeping all these charges against top 4 clubs under the rug, they have to enforce the rules , or the rest of the 16 teams will definetely know, that the pl is on ly a 4 team club, as we all know.

BruceCastle
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45. BruceCastle Wrote: | 18.26BST | Jul 20, 2008

What's all this about Berbatov being fined a week's wages by Ramos fro "being Mooody" in Spain?

It's in People to it must b fucking true!

Harry, you could make a mint out this blog, if you could collect fines from some of the moody bastards who moonlight on here -- assuming they earn any wages in the first place.

tim
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46. tim Wrote: | 18.37BST | Jul 20, 2008

that statement is from news of the world, doesnt sound like flimsy evidence to me.

toddspur
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47. toddspur Wrote: | 18.42BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to tim:

read this

And last night a Spurs spokesperson said: “With regard to United, we have confirmed comments came from Sir Alex talking at a supporters’ meeting.

“Our evidence will be submitted to the Premier League, all checked by our lawyers. We would not have said what we said...

good stuff, where is this from Tim?

Gazzas_Doctor
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48. Gazzas_Doctor Wrote: | 18.43BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to tim:

read this

And last night a Spurs spokesperson said: “With regard to United, we have confirmed comments came from Sir Alex talking at a supporters’ meeting.

“Our evidence will be submitted to the Premier League, all checked by our lawyers. We would not have said what we said...

As long at the top 4 keep signing up to the PL televison rights - things will keep being swept under the carpet.

Im guessing that all this media crap is intended to push Berbas price up.

toddspur
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49. toddspur Wrote: | 18.46BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to Gazzas_Doctor:

Reply to tim:

read this

And last night a Spurs spokesperson said: “With regard to United, we have confirmed comments came from Sir Alex talking at a supporters’ meeting.

“Our evidence will be submitted to the Premier League, all checked by our lawyers. We would not have said what we said...

As long at the top 4 keep signing up to the PL televison rights - things will keep being swept under the carpet.

Im guessing that all this media crap is intended to push Berbas price up.

i just cant see Munure taking Berbs now so i guess the price might actually go down.....for Barca that is?

Truth
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50. Truth Wrote: | 18.50BST | Jul 20, 2008

"It's not so much Fergie in all this, he's not been as bad as Rafael "I've tapped up more times than a typist" Benitez."

He's been a lot worse.

Where do you think the Berbatov to United stories that have been appearing in the media for a year now came from?

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51. JSPUR Wrote: | 19.07BST | Jul 20, 2008

Ferdinand said what?????? Im sure the only trophy he ever won was woth spurs....what a prat.

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52. yid83 Wrote: | 19.12BST | Jul 20, 2008

JSPUR, ferdinand would of had a 2nd trophy at spurs if he could of put at least one of the 20 chances he missed against blackburn away too

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53. tim Wrote: | 19.31BST | Jul 20, 2008

there are officially 20 teams in the premier league , but the top 4 are taken through the front entrance, and the other 16 are shown the servants entrance, about time the other 15 showed some balls and do what levy has done, instead of keep taking it,when the top 4 say jump, they jump, if the pl get so many complaints, they could have a revolt on their hands, and they dont want that, lets look at their record so far, tevez and mascharano, cole, the ref who reported fergie, etc.
lets kick the luton town, but oh no, cant touch the top 4. how is this right or fair. COYS

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54. MysteriousStranger Wrote: | 19.45BST | Jul 20, 2008

Aside from the issue of Ferguson being a pillock who never understood his rights from wrongs,

Cocker said:

"The best we can hope for is Ramos pulling his finger out and finding us a new strike force which:

a) Doesn't rely on the many talents of Darren Bent (namely to bring down a Charlton Athletic-esque long ball and hope for the best)"

Hmmm. I guess he thrived at being alert enough, strong enough and fast enough to get behind the last man. Horrible qualities, being able to escape the defender. Even playing in a team with no flair.

From our second friendly match report...

"59.31: Giovani evades offside trap to latch on to Taarabt through pass, goalkeeper rushes out of his box and the Mexican international generously squares the ball for Bent to tap into an empty net. 4-1"

It doesn't sound very good, does it? ;)





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55. tim Wrote: | 19.51BST | Jul 20, 2008

tottenham and levy have shown the way, now you other clubs follow suit, otherwise they will keep doing this, with no repurcussions.

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56. Jez Wrote: | 19.56BST | Jul 20, 2008

"...sier Sir Alex eksklusivt til united.no."

To the unitiated...." said Sir Alex exclusively to united.no"

The tip of the iceberg I am sure.

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57. paulhasissues Wrote: | 20.01BST | Jul 20, 2008

i know this is off topic, but what happened to Jolsgonemental?

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58. C Wrote: | 20.01BST | Jul 20, 2008

Congratulations Mr Levy, I would also like to see Spurs stick to their guns in relation to selling these players, unless they can contact Barca and offer Berba to them at a discount rate. As for Keane? Still not sure about him, there is a part of me that can still envisage an apology to the fans?? I might be deluded. Can not see David Villa coming to us though as much as I would like to see it.
Would you forgive Keano??

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59. harlowyid Wrote: | 20.17BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to Stokey yid:

As a plc company, Levy will have no choice but to sell, we are a plc first then football club, he has a duty to do right by the clubs shareholders.
I think we should seriously consider Huntlear, Capel, and Bently.We could then move on as a club.
Paying ÂŁ32m for David villa is crazy, even...

We might be a plc, but that does not mean we owe anything to shareholders. Spurs do not pay dividends to shareholders FACT. A sale of an asset (Player) would not benefit any shareholder however large or small. All profit made by the club is reinvested back into the club FACT.

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60. ANDYSPUR4LIFE Wrote: | 20.20BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to C:

Congratulations Mr Levy, I would also like to see Spurs stick to their guns in relation to selling these players, unless they can contact Barca and offer Berba to them at a discount rate. As for Keane? Still not sure about him, there is a part of me that can still envisage an apology to the fans?? I...

I'd forgive Keano - if he stated he would like to remain at Spurs and help us push on. In fact I cannot see him joining Rafa's sad lot. Stay Keano - help us get into CL for next season! There's some great stuff coming through on these comments, I really hope that we've got enuff on SAF to really nail him! COYS

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61. onedavemackay Wrote: | 20.20BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to paulhasissues:

i know this is off topic, but what happened to Jolsgonemental?

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He has posted here in the last couple of days.

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62. tim Wrote: | 20.23BST | Jul 20, 2008

dos santos is the new keane, we dont need keane, and really happy to see taarabt playing for us.

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63. AlexofMancunia Wrote: | 20.34BST | Jul 20, 2008

I saw this site, the day before the Sun stole their quotes from there. All they did was presume Fergie was talking about Berbatov and added more on, why would SAF say he hasn't made the comments if he had, and he knew he had? We were never going to get punished based on how Madrid got away with it so he wouldn't need to come out and deny he had made the comments.

They'll have been removed because Fergie said they never came from his mouth, and they knew they'd get in bother for printing false quotes.

Also, I find it funny how you lot think that us and Liverpool are the only clubs that tap players up, as you are guilty of it too, in fact, every club does it these days and it is now standard practice in transfers. No-one really pursues with transfers until they know whether the player would be interested or not. How do they find this out? Obviously people don't do it as blatently as Chelsea did with Arnesen or Cashley, or Madrid did with Ronaldo (through the bloody media almost every day!), but they still do it. Levy is just mad because he knows that he is losing his best players and he is trying to look like he's putting up a brave fight against the "tyrants" that are the big 4.

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64. kinga Wrote: | 20.41BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to harlowyid:

Reply to Stokey yid:

As a plc company, Levy will have no choice but to sell, we are a plc first then football club, he has a duty to do right by the clubs shareholders.
I think we should seriously consider Huntlear, Capel, and Bently.We could then move on as a club.
Paying ÂŁ32m for David villa is crazy, even...

We might be a plc, but that does not mean we owe anything to shareholders. Spurs do not pay dividends to shareholders FACT. A sale of an asset (Player) would not benefit any shareholder however large or small. All profit made by the club is reinvested back into the club FACT.

"Spurs do not pay dividends to shareholders FACT".

I wonder what that Tottenham Hotspurs PLC cheque payable to me is then? Ok, so I only have 1 share and the dividend is ÂŁ0.04, but it's still a dividend to a shareholder (or maybe that should read a dividend to the holder of 1 share :D )

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65. tim Wrote: | 20.41BST | Jul 20, 2008

if berba knuckled down and played to the best of his ability, without sulking, and encouraged his team mates, instead of putting them down, there is no doubt he would get his wish of cl football with us, and he would have achieved and earned it with his team mates, not have it given to him, by joining a team already there, just shows you what sort of person he is, a whinger, not a fighter, he will be missed, but not as bad as you think, in some matches last season berbatov and jenas were passengers, on the pitch, it was like playing with 9 men, if jenas stays, he can only be used for sub at best.

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66. kinga Wrote: | 20.46BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to AlexofMancunia:

I saw this site, the day before the Sun stole their quotes from there. All they did was presume Fergie was talking about Berbatov and added more on, why would SAF say he hasn't made the comments if he had, and he knew he had? We were never going to get punished based on how Madrid got away with it...

How do they find this out?
The PL rules state that they must ask permission from the holder of the players contract to speak to the said player. Then they can find out if the player is interested.

in fact, every club does it these days and it is now standard practice in transfers
Do you haive evudence of that? You could say all motorists break the speed limit and you'd be pretty much right. It's when the speeding motorist gets caught that he has to face the penalty. In this case I reckon SAF and Rafa were doing well over a ton!

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67. tim Wrote: | 21.03BST | Jul 20, 2008

alexofmancunia read this.


And last night a Spurs spokesperson said: “With regard to United, we have confirmed comments came from Sir Alex talking at a supporters’ meeting.

“Our evidence will be submitted to the Premier League, all checked by our lawyers. We would not have said what we said without substantial evidence.

“And it is worth asking Alex Ferguson if he is happy to confirm that at no point has anyone from Old Trafford ever spoken to the player or his agent given that Tottenham has never given permission.”


this is from news of the world, we are not making it up, you could be in serious trouble, and a fine wont be enough punishment.

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68. NN Wrote: | 21.11BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to AlexofMancunia:

I saw this site, the day before the Sun stole their quotes from there. All they did was presume Fergie was talking about Berbatov and added more on, why would SAF say he hasn't made the comments if he had, and he knew he had? We were never going to get punished based on how Madrid got away with it...

Question. Where in AF's response today does he say; 'I can catagorically state that I have never approached or contacted Berbatov or his agent as alleged by Spurs' or 'I have never acted outside of PL rules' Go on, where? You manc twat.

Why was the article in the Sun posted on your OWN FUCKIN OFFICIAL WEBSITE??!! And why has it since been removed??

Cretin.

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69. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 21.11BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to paulhasissues:

i know this is off topic, but what happened to Jolsgonemental?

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I would imagine he probably ate someone who disagreed with him. 8O :o ;)

He was he a day or two ago. Sprinkling his love around..

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70. hiddeous1 Wrote: | 21.46BST | Jul 20, 2008

Off the topic too but delighted to hear Taarabt playing too..although he DID feature in last year's pre-season and then wasn't used...

I think Ramos and more so Gus will get the bet out of that young man and as he learns and matures he is going to be shit-hot! Everyone's saying Bale fit is going to be like a new signing(which is true!) but Taarabt could be too. Young, stroppy, skill to burn and now with other thinking/flair players like Modric and Dos Santos joining in...I think he could turn out to be the "find of the season" for us..

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71. RunPigRun Wrote: | 21.49BST | Jul 20, 2008

Gotta love that translation from the norwegian site.

Berbatov is a "Bulgarian landslagpissen".

Couldn't have put it better myself.

I need some JGM loving too.

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72. onedavemackay Wrote: | 22.00BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to RunPigRun:

Gotta love that translation from the norwegian site.

Berbatov is a "Bulgarian landslagpissen".

Couldn't have put it better myself.

I need some JGM loving too.

Well don't hold your breath

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73. kinga Wrote: | 22.15BST | Jul 20, 2008

re: Taarabt - If Berba and Robbie do go, then maybe Taarabt could become an option up front. The guy has the ability to run at and go round players. He also appears to have the very same selfish streak that Defoe has.

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74. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 22.37BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to kinga:

re: Taarabt - If Berba and Robbie do go, then maybe Taarabt could become an option up front. The guy has the ability to run at and go round players. He also appears to have the very same selfish streak that Defoe has.

And like Defoe's latter work at The Lane, Adel would able to keep the pigeons off the roof with his lunatic pot shots.

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75. Craig-Wijckaans Wrote: | 22.40BST | Jul 20, 2008

I love Adel Taarabt. He's like Spurs' Drunken Party Piece. All the right intentions, but you just know its gonna go horribly wrong.

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76. Phoenix Wrote: | 23.07BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to NN:

Reply to AlexofMancunia:

I saw this site, the day before the Sun stole their quotes from there. All they did was presume Fergie was talking about Berbatov and added more on, why would SAF say he hasn't made the comments if he had, and he knew he had? We were never going to get punished based on how Madrid got away with it...

Question. Where in AF's response today does he say; 'I can catagorically state that I have never approached or contacted Berbatov or his agent as alleged by Spurs' or 'I have never acted outside of PL rules' Go on, where? You manc twat.

Why was the article in the Sun posted on your...

I have something i'd like to ask everyone here...why would Ferguson tell the Norweigean website this story, and then tell Sky Sports something different like he won't mention the player? He's not stupid, i think he'd have known that the story he gave to the fansite would have gotten out? The reason why the Sun story was removed from our website could possibly be because its not true???? Ferguson could sue anyone who's using the quote for libel. If he has indeed spoken to Berbatov's agent, then he'll get fined and he can sue Levy cus Levy's quotes were obviously based on the story from The Sun. Please be mature and quit the name calling, the user you quoted never called names.

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77. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 23.37BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to Phoenix:

Reply to NN:
Reply to AlexofMancunia:

I saw this site, the day before the Sun stole their quotes from there. All they did was presume Fergie was talking about Berbatov and added more on, why would SAF say he hasn't made the comments if he had, and he knew he had? We were never going to get punished based on how Madrid got away with it...

Question. Where in AF's response today does he say; 'I can catagorically state that I have never approached or contacted Berbatov or his agent as alleged by Spurs' or 'I have never acted outside of PL rules' Go on, where? You manc twat.

Why was the article in the Sun posted on your...

I have something i'd like to ask everyone here...why would Ferguson tell the Norweigean website this story, and then tell Sky Sports something different like he won't mention the player? He's not stupid, i think he'd have known that the story he gave to the fansite would have gotten out? The reason...

I think the name calling is down to the genuine anger that most people have when thinking about the high handed manner with which Man Utd tend to conduct themselves.

I agree that Sir Alex isn't stupid. However he is extraordinarily arrogant.

Arrogance in extremely large quantities does closely resemble stupidity.

Your line that Ferguson would be aware of the quote getting out is wishful. I think he thought he was 'off the record' amongst the usual brigade of stooges and backslappers.

The reasons behind the web page being removed are obviously as I implied in this blog. But the idea that the page went missing as it wasn't factually correct whilst not laughable is certainly creative.

If nobody buys that, you might try and kid them that Rudolph was trying to reduce his carbon footprint.

The Sun story is largely irrelevant. The name of MUFC's pain is whatever Sir Alex said to the Norwegians.

I'd love to get my hands on an itemized Old Trafford phone bill for the last few days.

As for Ferguson suing anyone for libel? More chance of Paul Kemsley becoming a teetotal vegan.

Levy is in a different class to these Manc clowns and this will be spelt out to all and sundry in the coming weeks.

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78. Chingford Spur Wrote: | 23.51BST | Jul 20, 2008

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to The Voice of Reason:

A translation from a Norwegian website, you are joking right ?

You need a bit more proof than that, like some real evidence that he actually said it.

In the absence of a video or tape recording, or the written testimony of eyewitnesses Levys statement is libelous, and the...

The Voice Of Reason? More like the sound of someone whistling in the dark. Levy's case isn't presented here, rather something I dug up after breakfast which I feel may constitute part of what he is going to throw at Ferguson.

So you might like to wait and saee what unfolds, then...

Harry please excuse the "lecture" but for those interested...I am training to be a Barrister and know the law on Defamation pretty well. It has been defined as "a statement which tends to lower the claimant in the estimation of right-thinking members of society generally." While accusing someone of arrogance and hypocrisy has been held to be defamatory, Mr Levy will probably have the defence of Fair Comment. This is because the subject is of public interest, and the comments were almost certainly an expression of honest/genuine opinion (not fact - can hypocrisy or arrogance ever said to be facts as they are relative concepts?) based on true facts.

It doesn't matter if the site was in Norwegian, Arabic or Chinese. If SAF's comments were made, which the "exclusive" story, official nature of the website and hasty retraction would seem to support, then Mr Levy can rely on them. (In addition to other evidence which I am sure exists!)

I'm guessing everyone will have stopped reading by now but I thought it would be good to set the record straight. Spurs need not sweat over a Defamation case. (In my humble opinion m'lud)

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79. Chingford Spur Wrote: | 00.03BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to The Voice of Reason:

A translation from a Norwegian website, you are joking right ?

You need a bit more proof than that, like some real evidence that he actually said it.

In the absence of a video or tape recording, or the written testimony of eyewitnesses Levys statement is libelous, and the...

The Voice Of Reason? More like the sound of someone whistling in the dark. Levy's case isn't presented here, rather something I dug up after breakfast which I feel may constitute part of what he is going to throw at Ferguson.

So you might like to wait and saee what unfolds, then...

HH - unfortunately your own reasoning goes astray ever so slightly. If you accept that SAF believed he was "off the record" then it makes it more difficult to assert that he is using the media to unsettle players and hence break PL rules!
However, this is a relatively minor issue - regardless of his motivation, he is simply not allowed to make such comments.

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80. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 00.03BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to Chingford Spur:

Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to The Voice of Reason:

A translation from a Norwegian website, you are joking right ?

You need a bit more proof than that, like some real evidence that he actually said it.

In the absence of a video or tape recording, or the written testimony of eyewitnesses Levys statement is libelous, and the...

The Voice Of Reason? More like the sound of someone whistling in the dark. Levy's case isn't presented here, rather something I dug up after breakfast which I feel may constitute part of what he is going to throw at Ferguson.

So you might like to wait and saee what unfolds, then...

Harry please excuse the "lecture" but for those interested...I am training to be a Barrister and know the law on Defamation pretty well. It has been defined as "a statement which tends to lower the claimant in the estimation of right-thinking members of society generally." While accusing someone of...

Good stuff, Chingford. Very good stuff indeed. Thank you.

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81. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 00.06BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to Chingford Spur:

Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to The Voice of Reason:

A translation from a Norwegian website, you are joking right ?

You need a bit more proof than that, like some real evidence that he actually said it.

In the absence of a video or tape recording, or the written testimony of eyewitnesses Levys statement is libelous, and the...

The Voice Of Reason? More like the sound of someone whistling in the dark. Levy's case isn't presented here, rather something I dug up after breakfast which I feel may constitute part of what he is going to throw at Ferguson.

So you might like to wait and saee what unfolds, then...

HH - unfortunately your own reasoning goes astray ever so slightly. If you accept that SAF believed he was "off the record" then it makes it more difficult to assert that he is using the media to unsettle players and hence break PL rules!
However, this is a relatively minor issue - regardless...

My reasoning often goes astray ever so slightly.

I'm not the full shilling.

:P

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82. Chingford Spur Wrote: | 00.13BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to The Voice of Reason:

A translation from a Norwegian website, you are joking right ?

You need a bit more proof than that, like some real evidence that he actually said it.

In the absence of a video or tape recording, or the written testimony of eyewitnesses Levys statement is libelous, and the...

The Voice Of Reason? More like the sound of someone whistling in the dark. Levy's case isn't presented here, rather something I dug up after breakfast which I feel may constitute part of what he is going to throw at Ferguson.

So you might like to wait and saee what unfolds, then...

Haha - I've not heard that phrase in a while!
I'm off now. Just wanted to say I love this blog so keep up the good work Harry. Read it all the time and is my first stop for Spurs news (before newsnow & official site!) but don't get much time to post. However right now I'm stuck at home with the Beckham/Rooney injury...broken 5th metatarsal! Sadly no oxygen tent with the NHS.

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83. Canadian Raptor Wrote: | 00.26BST | Jul 21, 2008

Lord Fergie is only ticked off at Spurs since Mr. Levy just shoved his infamous hairdrier so far up his butt, at full heat , so that everytime he f**ts he burns off his nose hairs - no wonder he's ticked off! I can't wait until Ronaldo signs for Real Madrid soon. He who tapps up also gets tapped up!!! The "Sodden Scot" will need a major enema after that happens!

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84. Jim Wrote: | 00.47BST | Jul 21, 2008

Say what you want about Levy, but never question his business sense. This matter is purely business, and in business strategy an ENIC backed Spurs is the "big club" when compared to ManU. Levy definitely did not go into this without thinking it through and I am sure the end result will benefit the club in some fashion.

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85. Phoenix Wrote: | 01.02BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to Phoenix:
Reply to NN:
Reply to AlexofMancunia:

I saw this site, the day before the Sun stole their quotes from there. All they did was presume Fergie was talking about Berbatov and added more on, why would SAF say he hasn't made the comments if he had, and he knew he had? We were never going to get punished based on how Madrid got away with it...

Question. Where in AF's response today does he say; 'I can catagorically state that I have never approached or contacted Berbatov or his agent as alleged by Spurs' or 'I have never acted outside of PL rules' Go on, where? You manc twat.

Why was the article in the Sun posted on your...

I have something i'd like to ask everyone here...why would Ferguson tell the Norweigean website this story, and then tell Sky Sports something different like he won't mention the player? He's not stupid, i think he'd have known that the story he gave to the fansite would have gotten out? The reason...

I think the name calling is down to the genuine anger that most people have when thinking about the high handed manner with which Man Utd tend to conduct themselves.

I agree that Sir Alex isn't stupid. However he is extraordinarily arrogant.

Arrogance in extremely...

I've just read somewhere from the people who saw the article on the Fanzine(its not sponsored by United), who said there were some things that Fergie said that was lost in translation and before they took it down after that, but the hawks from the English press had seen it and had published articles about it. So we'll see what happens and i for one can't wait to see these "so-called" evidence Levy has. Where was it implied that the page went missing? Most United fans i've talked to all agree it was taken down.

I think the story from the Sun is more relevant than you think, cus Levy's quotes used the word "public statements", he was obviously implying that to the quotes from the Sun, and why couldn't Ferguson sue for Libel? Like i've said Levy based his allegations on the statements from the Sun which we has been confirmed as untrue(mind you most papers say "in an interview with the sun", like he talked to The Sun in person, not stealing stories from a fansite or whatever). At the end,, no one will be punished(just wait and see), but Berbatov looks to be heading for Bareclona.

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86. PaulJoseMpokuChoccy Wrote: | 01.19BST | Jul 21, 2008

Berbatov can go for all I care, so long as we have our box of Belgian chocolatey tricks to step into the fold. There's only 1 Paul-Jose Mpoku! (no, really, there is only one - how many people do you know called Paul-Jose Mpoku?) He is going to prove himself as the greatest Belgian named Mpoku to ever grace the Lilywhites. COYS!

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87. jim Wrote: | 01.26BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to Phoenix:

Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to Phoenix:
Reply to NN:
Reply to AlexofMancunia:

I saw this site, the day before the Sun stole their quotes from there. All they did was presume Fergie was talking about Berbatov and added more on, why would SAF say he hasn't made the comments if he had, and he knew he had? We were never going to get punished based on how Madrid got away with it...

Question. Where in AF's response today does he say; 'I can catagorically state that I have never approached or contacted Berbatov or his agent as alleged by Spurs' or 'I have never acted outside of PL rules' Go on, where? You manc twat.

Why was the article in the Sun posted on your...

I have something i'd like to ask everyone here...why would Ferguson tell the Norweigean website this story, and then tell Sky Sports something different like he won't mention the player? He's not stupid, i think he'd have known that the story he gave to the fansite would have gotten out? The reason...

I think the name calling is down to the genuine anger that most people have when thinking about the high handed manner with which Man Utd tend to conduct themselves.

I agree that Sir Alex isn't stupid. However he is extraordinarily arrogant.

Arrogance in extremely...

I've just read somewhere from the people who saw the article on the Fanzine(its not sponsored by United), who said there were some things that Fergie said that was lost in translation and before they took it down after that, but the hawks from the English press had seen it and had published articles...

The threat of a legal suit is the biggest joke. What statement was libelous? That Ferguson is a hypocrite? That Ferguson behaved in an outrageous, arrogant manner? Good luck Fergie in proving any of those claims false. Fergie is just blowing smoke about legal action.

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88. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 01.28BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to Phoenix:

Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to Phoenix:
Reply to NN:
Reply to AlexofMancunia:

I saw this site, the day before the Sun stole their quotes from there. All they did was presume Fergie was talking about Berbatov and added more on, why would SAF say he hasn't made the comments if he had, and he knew he had? We were never going to get punished based on how Madrid got away with it...

Question. Where in AF's response today does he say; 'I can catagorically state that I have never approached or contacted Berbatov or his agent as alleged by Spurs' or 'I have never acted outside of PL rules' Go on, where? You manc twat.

Why was the article in the Sun posted on your...

I have something i'd like to ask everyone here...why would Ferguson tell the Norweigean website this story, and then tell Sky Sports something different like he won't mention the player? He's not stupid, i think he'd have known that the story he gave to the fansite would have gotten out? The reason...

I think the name calling is down to the genuine anger that most people have when thinking about the high handed manner with which Man Utd tend to conduct themselves.

I agree that Sir Alex isn't stupid. However he is extraordinarily arrogant.

Arrogance in extremely...

I've just read somewhere from the people who saw the article on the Fanzine(its not sponsored by United), who said there were some things that Fergie said that was lost in translation and before they took it down after that, but the hawks from the English press had seen it and had published articles...

A straw clutching ramble.

The site is endorsed by the club.

Lost in who's translation?

The url doesn't work anymore. Clever people have retrieved the removed page. Other folk saved the original.

'Public statements' would include er... anything he said in... er public. Inc. a Norwegian website.

As for libeling Levy, I'd refer you to Chingford's comments above.

'No one will be punished.'
Well, we'll just see about that.

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89. PaulJoseMpokuChoccy Wrote: | 01.36BST | Jul 21, 2008

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Berbatov can go for all I care, so long as we have our box of Belgian chocolatey tricks to step into the fold. There's only 1 Paul-Jose Mpoku! (no, really, there is only one - how many people do you know called Paul-Jose Mpoku?) He is going to prove himself as the greatest Belgian named Mpoku to...

In the words of Boris Johnson, I couldn't disagree with you less. I wonder if Boris also speaks to himself. Anyway, I have started a campaign to get PMJ added to the player list on Ole-Ole. They can't keep that kind of talent out of the limelight for long.

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90. PaulJoseMpokuChoccy Wrote: | 01.47BST | Jul 21, 2008

Whoops typo; I meant PJM of course

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91. Shreyas Wrote: | 04.56BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to Phoenix:
Reply to NN:
Reply to AlexofMancunia:

I saw this site, the day before the Sun stole their quotes from there. All they did was presume Fergie was talking about Berbatov and added more on, why would SAF say he hasn't made the comments if he had, and he knew he had? We were never going to get punished based on how Madrid got away with it...

Question. Where in AF's response today does he say; 'I can catagorically state that I have never approached or contacted Berbatov or his agent as alleged by Spurs' or 'I have never acted outside of PL rules' Go on, where? You manc twat.

Why was the article in the Sun posted on your...

I have something i'd like to ask everyone here...why would Ferguson tell the Norweigean website this story, and then tell Sky Sports something different like he won't mention the player? He's not stupid, i think he'd have known that the story he gave to the fansite would have gotten out? The reason...

I think the name calling is down to the genuine anger that most people have when thinking about the high handed manner with which Man Utd tend to conduct themselves.

I agree that Sir Alex isn't stupid. However he is extraordinarily arrogant.

Arrogance in extremely...

The link on Man Utd's official website tha'ts getting you all hot and bothered, is actually a link called: What the papers say.
This is a daily link, where the website puts up all the rumours that's appearing in the local press. This need not have any ounce of truth in it, just a daily round-up.
Hell, even Ronaldo's purported statements that he wants to go to Real were put up there.

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92. Shreyas Wrote: | 05.01BST | Jul 21, 2008

And the link's not removed, its still there: LINK

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93. George Wrote: | 08.34BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to Shreyas:

And the link's not removed, its still there: LINK

Excellent!

So even on Man Utd's official site, they produce qoutes from AF saying that he wants to sign Dimitar Berbatov... Case closed ?

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94. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 08.54BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to Shreyas:

And the link's not removed, its still there: LINK

You have of course lost concentration at some point and ended up highlighting the wrong link Shreyas.

*rolls eyes*

Try rereading my piece above, then the comments below and you'll see where you went wrong.

And as George rightly points out, all roads lead to the Lanarkshire Lager Lout breaking Premier League rules.

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95. christopheryates Wrote: | 09.29BST | Jul 21, 2008

im trying to find a scandinavian site for premier league football i saw this on.. im pretty sure there were more quotes, wether they were true or not is another matter but still could be pretty interesting.

any translations needed let me know.

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96. christopheryates Wrote: | 10.05BST | Jul 21, 2008

maybe he can translate this for me..

Manchester United kan fucking råtne i helvete .. Alex Ferguson er den største dritt ansikt kjent for mannen!

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97. N7teen Wrote: | 10.23BST | Jul 21, 2008

A great find Harry. However, I don't want to sound too cyncial but as you point out, Levy will have had enough proof otherwise the in-house lawyers wouldn't have allowed him to make the statement in the first place. And more importantly, even if the whole world knows Red Nose is guilty, he'll get a slapped wrist and a ÂŁ1,000 fine or something just as pathetic. The FA and Premier League wouldn't dare rock the boat.

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98. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 10.53BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to christopheryates:

maybe he can translate this for me..

Manchester United kan fucking råtne i helvete .. Alex Ferguson er den største dritt ansikt kjent for mannen!

Manchester United can fucking rot in hell .. Alex Ferguson is the biggest crap face known to man! 8)

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99. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 11.08BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to N7teen:

A great find Harry. However, I don't want to sound too cyncial but as you point out, Levy will have had enough proof otherwise the in-house lawyers wouldn't have allowed him to make the statement in the first place. And more importantly, even if the whole world knows Red Nose is guilty, he'll get...

Cheers. I am as cynical as you in relation to the possible action that might be taken.

What is important is that a clear message is sent out that the non SKY FOUR won't roll over and have their tummies tickled whenever wiseguys like Fergle come a poaching.

Next stop is next July and an offer (via the back page of The Mirror) for Bale.

United can whistle.

=D

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100. Spurs till i die Wrote: | 11.30BST | Jul 21, 2008

They can both go as far as im concerned, who wants players that dont show the same commitment to the club as the fans, it us that pays there wages, so let em go and trust in Juande, believe me this man will not do us wrong

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101. worthingyid Wrote: | 11.51BST | Jul 21, 2008

No to rotting in reserves yes to selling abroad, as for keane gutted my hero even named the dog after him ! Gio it is then need to get this sorted soon bring in one more striker and a class midfielder sorted we will win nowt though ...

Ross I did the same .. named my dog Keano... irrelevent now tho as I left the missus and lost custody of the dogs

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102. Shreyas Wrote: | 11.51BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to Shreyas:

And the link's not removed, its still there: ...

Here are my comments again:

The link on Man Utd's official website tha'ts getting you all hot and bothered, is actually a link called: What the papers say.
This is a daily link, where the website puts up all the rumours that's appearing in the local press. This need not have any ounce of truth in it, just a daily round-up.
Hell, even Ronaldo's purported statements that he wants to go to Real were put up there.

And as i said, the link was there till it was updated with Today's: What the papers say. here's the link to that, which agina has Dimi news: http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={B4CEE8FA-9A47-47BC-B069-3F7A2F35DB70}&newsid=6614220" rel="nofollow">LINK

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103. essexyid Wrote: | 11.54BST | Jul 21, 2008

will post this when there's a new topic too... but i have more information from the same source that originally told me Keane had asked to leave, and that the 'Bentley has signed' stuff was all false.

The press are sort of right for once! There is indeed a 20mil offer on the table already from Liverpool for Keane, and there has been for some time. Supposedly our answer to them was asking them to wait whilst we find a replacement. It looks like Keane will definitely be on his way soon, just expect it to be coupled with the signing of another striker.

As for Berba, the Man Utd offer was also 20mil, which, to quote my source, was 'not even acknowledged,' so i'm guessing we saw this as a comical offer. Sadly, the rumours of Barcelona coming in with an alternative option are, as it stands, untrue, but of course we wouldn't be suprised if this changed.

And in less interesting news from another source, Boateng is being extremely disruptive at Spurs lodge, particularly since Chimbonda arrived back from Spain. Supposedly these two have a history of being wankers on the training ground.

That's all for now, but i'll have more soon.

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104. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 12.12BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to Shreyas:

Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to Shreyas:

And the link's not removed, its still there: ...

Here are my comments again:

The link on Man Utd's official website tha'ts getting you all hot and bothered, is actually a link called: What the papers say.
This is a daily link, where the website puts up all the rumours that's appearing in the local press. This need not have any..." rel="nofollow">LINK

I have reread your comments and I'm at a loss to understand what your point is. Am I being thick?

The link you have there is for an external news round up. Spurs have one on their official site too. I grasped that.

Tell you what. I actually bored with this.




Tell Whiskey Boat we'll see him in court.

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105. christopheryates Wrote: | 12.13BST | Jul 21, 2008

perfect translation harry.. im actually danish (spent most of my life in north london) but maybe your friends Erik Thorstvedt and Espen Baardsen might be able to help you with this scandal?

have to give it to daniel levy, he has the real spurs fans intrestests at heart.. sell berbatov to barcelona and fuck them all! would love to see a points deduction and a win at old trafford next season.. just to see the scowl on fergusons face is worth more than berbatov and keane put together!

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106. QuietAtTheLibrary Wrote: | 12.23BST | Jul 21, 2008

As mentioned above; there's so much riding on this. IF we sell to those two wanky clubs then what will stop them coming back for Bale, Modric Dos Santos etc next summer?

We MUST put a stop to this and Levy must realise the complications are huge if he does indded give in to them. :(

Come on Levy, sell Keane to a Newcastle =D and Berba to Barca even if it means less cash in our pockets...

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107. Jonny Wrote: | 12.40BST | Jul 21, 2008

As I live in Cape Town I went to the ManUre game on Saturday (shortage of live Prem teams here obviously). They were shit, where Spurs were thrashing teams here this time last year!
I was wearing my Berba shirt with pride just to let ManUre know that he is already at the best club in the Fing world. When they drove past on the coach I left it in no uncertain terms how I felt about him going to them...even got a smile from Carrick!

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108. Johnnytwosaints Wrote: | 12.50BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to essexyid:

will post this when there's a new topic too... but i have more information from the same source that originally told me Keane had asked to leave, and that the 'Bentley has signed' stuff was all false.

The press are sort of right for once! There is indeed a 20mil offer on the table...

Since the end of last season we have been waiting for a DM and another CB but have been constantly linked with strikers, mostly keane type players at that, so I guess it makes sense that the offer for Keane has been around for a while.

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109. MysteriousStranger Wrote: | 12.59BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to Jonny:

As I live in Cape Town I went to the ManUre game on Saturday (shortage of live Prem teams here obviously). They were shit, where Spurs were thrashing teams here this time last year!
I was wearing my Berba shirt with pride just to let ManUre know that he is already at the best club in the Fing...

If only Dimitar wore his Spurs shirt with the same sense of pride as you evidently do.

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110. Chirpy Wrote: | 14.17BST | Jul 21, 2008

Approaches to Players

1. A Club shall be at liberty at any time to make an approach to a Player with a view to negotiating a contract with such a Player
1.1 if he is an Out of Contract Player, or,
1.2 in the case of a Contract Player, with the prior written consent of the Club (or club) to which he is contracted.

2. A Club shall be at liberty after the third Saturday in May in any year and before the 1st July next following to make such an approach to a Contract Player
2.1 who will become an Out of Contract Player on that 1st July; and
2.2 who has received no offer from his Club under Rule M.17.2 or
2.3 who has received but has declined such offer.

3. Any Club which by itself, by any of its Officials, by any of its Players, by its Agent, by any other Person on its behalf or by any other means whatsoever makes an approach either directly or indirectly to a Contract Player except as permitted by either Rule K.1.2 or Rule K.2 shall be in breach of these Rules
and may be dealt with under the provisions of Section R.

4. For the purposes of Rules K.2 and K.3, “Contract Player” shall include a player who has entered into a written contract of employment with a Football League club.

Approaches by Players

5. An Out of Contract Player, or any Person on his behalf, shall be at liberty…

6. Subject to Rule K.7, a Contract Player, either by himself or by any Person on his behalf, shall not either directly or indirectly make any such approach as is referred to in Rule K.5 without having obtained the prior written consent of his Club.

7. After the third Saturday in May in any year and before the 1st July next following a Contract Player to whom Rule K.2 applies or any Person on his behalf may make such an approach as is referred to in Rule K.5.

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111. Chirpy Wrote: | 14.17BST | Jul 21, 2008

Public Statements

8. A statement made publicly by or on behalf of a Club expressing interest in acquiring the registration of a Contract Player or by a Contract Player expressing interest in transferring his registration to another Club (or club) shall in either case be treated as an indirect approach for the purposes of Rules
K.3 and K.6.

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112. Bimmi Wrote: | 16.46BST | Jul 21, 2008

don't really care about the dossier handed over by Spurs.. at the end of the day it won't make a blind bit of difference..

Ferguson will get a slap on the wrist maybe..

but if the player wants to go then he will go..

more exciting is news of Arshavin.. LINK

i'd love to get him in although i remain unconvinced of his qualities despite his two fantastic games in the Euros..

as for the talk of Eto'o....LINK don't know.. after declaring that Tottenham were too small for him and now he's "courting" us again...well... i'd like to tell him where to go.. (although i do think he would be excellent)..

he'll prob go to Inter..

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113. paulhasissues Wrote: | 19.14BST | Jul 21, 2008

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Reply to paulhasissues:

i know this is off topic, but what happened to Jolsgonemental?

:\

I would imagine he probably ate someone who disagreed with him. 8O :o ;)

He was he a day or two ago. Sprinkling his love around..

phew, note to self.

must work less, visit blog more often ;)

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114. Phoenix Wrote: | 19.17BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to jim:

Reply to Phoenix:
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to Phoenix:
Reply to NN:
Reply to AlexofMancunia:

I saw this site, the day before the Sun stole their quotes from there. All they did was presume Fergie was talking about Berbatov and added more on, why would SAF say he hasn't made the comments if he had, and he knew he had? We were never going to get punished based on how Madrid got away with it...

Question. Where in AF's response today does he say; 'I can catagorically state that I have never approached or contacted Berbatov or his agent as alleged by Spurs' or 'I have never acted outside of PL rules' Go on, where? You manc twat.

Why was the article in the Sun posted on your...

I have something i'd like to ask everyone here...why would Ferguson tell the Norweigean website this story, and then tell Sky Sports something different like he won't mention the player? He's not stupid, i think he'd have known that the story he gave to the fansite would have gotten out? The reason...

I think the name calling is down to the genuine anger that most people have when thinking about the high handed manner with which Man Utd tend to conduct themselves.

I agree that Sir Alex isn't stupid. However he is extraordinarily arrogant.

Arrogance in extremely...

I've just read somewhere from the people who saw the article on the Fanzine(its not sponsored by United), who said there were some things that Fergie said that was lost in translation and before they took it down after that, but the hawks from the English press had seen it and had published articles...

The threat of a legal suit is the biggest joke. What statement was libelous? That Ferguson is a hypocrite? That Ferguson behaved in an outrageous, arrogant manner? Good luck Fergie in proving any of those claims false. Fergie is just blowing smoke about legal action.

Umm, no the libelous claims are that Levy said "in recent PUBLIC statements", the word is public, which shows he was basing his statement from yesterday on what The Sun said, which we all know is a lie right now, so yeah that Libelous.

Anyway, if Madrid got away with United's case against Ronaldo, Fergie will get a fine at worst and Berbatov might have a 60/40 chance of going to Barca instead, in fact, i'd be quite surprised if anyone ends up being punished. Also a question: can anyone tell me what happened with Ramos cus i heard it was just as bad and i've asked lots of Spurs fans and either they suffer from selective reading syndrome or they can't see that part of my post cus they all refused to answer.

On Arshavin: I hope you guys get him, i'd rather see him in a Spurs shirt than playing for Arsenal.

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115. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 19.30BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to Phoenix:

Reply to jim:
Reply to Phoenix:
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to Phoenix:
Reply to NN:
Reply to AlexofMancunia:

I saw this site, the day before the Sun stole their quotes from there. All they did was presume Fergie was talking about Berbatov and added more on, why would SAF say he hasn't made the comments if he had, and he knew he had? We were never going to get punished based on how Madrid got away with it...

Question. Where in AF's response today does he say; 'I can catagorically state that I have never approached or contacted Berbatov or his agent as alleged by Spurs' or 'I have never acted outside of PL rules' Go on, where? You manc twat.

Why was the article in the Sun posted on your...

I have something i'd like to ask everyone here...why would Ferguson tell the Norweigean website this story, and then tell Sky Sports something different like he won't mention the player? He's not stupid, i think he'd have known that the story he gave to the fansite would have gotten out? The reason...

I think the name calling is down to the genuine anger that most people have when thinking about the high handed manner with which Man Utd tend to conduct themselves.

I agree that Sir Alex isn't stupid. However he is extraordinarily arrogant.

Arrogance in extremely...

I've just read somewhere from the people who saw the article on the Fanzine(its not sponsored by United), who said there were some things that Fergie said that was lost in translation and before they took it down after that, but the hawks from the English press had seen it and had published articles...

The threat of a legal suit is the biggest joke. What statement was libelous? That Ferguson is a hypocrite? That Ferguson behaved in an outrageous, arrogant manner? Good luck Fergie in proving any of those claims false. Fergie is just blowing smoke about legal action.

Umm, no the libelous claims are that Levy said "in recent PUBLIC statements", the word is public, which shows he was basing his statement from yesterday on what The Sun said, which we all know is a lie right now, so yeah that Libelous.

Anyway, if Madrid got away with United's case...

I haven't got anyhthing to add, I was just curious to see how many reply lines this blog will take before it just turns into a Scaletrix track.

Mildly amusing how all the Utd fans are privvy to specifics of Levy's casefile.

Mildly amusing or dillusional.

Yeah. Dillusional.



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116. jim Wrote: | 19.45BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to Phoenix:

Reply to jim:
Reply to Phoenix:
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to Phoenix:
Reply to NN:
Reply to AlexofMancunia:

I saw this site, the day before the Sun stole their quotes from there. All they did was presume Fergie was talking about Berbatov and added more on, why would SAF say he hasn't made the comments if he had, and he knew he had? We were never going to get punished based on how Madrid got away with it...

Question. Where in AF's response today does he say; 'I can catagorically state that I have never approached or contacted Berbatov or his agent as alleged by Spurs' or 'I have never acted outside of PL rules' Go on, where? You manc twat.

Why was the article in the Sun posted on your...

I have something i'd like to ask everyone here...why would Ferguson tell the Norweigean website this story, and then tell Sky Sports something different like he won't mention the player? He's not stupid, i think he'd have known that the story he gave to the fansite would have gotten out? The reason...

I think the name calling is down to the genuine anger that most people have when thinking about the high handed manner with which Man Utd tend to conduct themselves.

I agree that Sir Alex isn't stupid. However he is extraordinarily arrogant.

Arrogance in extremely...

I've just read somewhere from the people who saw the article on the Fanzine(its not sponsored by United), who said there were some things that Fergie said that was lost in translation and before they took it down after that, but the hawks from the English press had seen it and had published articles...

The threat of a legal suit is the biggest joke. What statement was libelous? That Ferguson is a hypocrite? That Ferguson behaved in an outrageous, arrogant manner? Good luck Fergie in proving any of those claims false. Fergie is just blowing smoke about legal action.

Umm, no the libelous claims are that Levy said "in recent PUBLIC statements", the word is public, which shows he was basing his statement from yesterday on what The Sun said, which we all know is a lie right now, so yeah that Libelous.

Anyway, if Madrid got away with United's case...

I am actually an attorney. That is not libel. There was a public statement that was attributed to him. Even if Fergie claims he never said it, SAF is never going to show that Spurs knew that the statement was false as it was on a ManU fansite. Fergie has nothing as far as a lawsuit.

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117. Archie Wrote: | 20.04BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to jim:

Reply to Phoenix:
Reply to jim:
Reply to Phoenix:
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to Phoenix:
Reply to NN:

Question. Where in AF's response today does he say; 'I can catagorically state that I have never approached or contacted Berbatov or his agent as alleged by Spurs' or 'I have never acted outside of PL rules' Go on, where? You manc twat.

Why was the article in the Sun posted on your...

I have something i'd like to ask everyone here...why would Ferguson tell the Norweigean website this story, and then tell Sky Sports something different like he won't mention the player? He's not stupid, i think he'd have known that the story he gave to the fansite would have gotten out? The reason...

I think the name calling is down to the genuine anger that most people have when thinking about the high handed manner with which Man Utd tend to conduct themselves.

I agree that Sir Alex isn't stupid. However he is extraordinarily arrogant.

Arrogance in extremely...

I've just read somewhere from the people who saw the article on the Fanzine(its not sponsored by United), who said there were some things that Fergie said that was lost in translation and before they took it down after that, but the hawks from the English press had seen it and had published articles...

The threat of a legal suit is the biggest joke. What statement was libelous? That Ferguson is a hypocrite? That Ferguson behaved in an outrageous, arrogant manner? Good luck Fergie in proving any of those claims false. Fergie is just blowing smoke about legal action.

Umm, no the libelous claims are that Levy said "in recent PUBLIC statements", the word is public, which shows he was basing his statement from yesterday on what The Sun said, which we all know is a lie right now, so yeah that Libelous.

Anyway, if Madrid got away with United's case...

I am actually an attorney. That is not libel. There was a public statement that was attributed to him. Even if Fergie claims he never said it, SAF is never going to show that Spurs knew that the statement was false as it was on a ManU fansite. Fergie has nothing as far as a lawsuit.

Don't know about a law suit but you could make a fine pin stripe out of this reply!

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118. RunPigRun Wrote: | 20.38BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to Archie:

Reply to jim:
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Reply to Phoenix:

I have something i'd like to ask everyone here...why would Ferguson tell the Norweigean website this story, and then tell Sky Sports something different like he won't mention the player? He's not stupid, i think he'd have known that the story he gave to the fansite would have gotten out? The reason...

I think the name calling is down to the genuine anger that most people have when thinking about the high handed manner with which Man Utd tend to conduct themselves.

I agree that Sir Alex isn't stupid. However he is extraordinarily arrogant.

Arrogance in extremely...

I've just read somewhere from the people who saw the article on the Fanzine(its not sponsored by United), who said there were some things that Fergie said that was lost in translation and before they took it down after that, but the hawks from the English press had seen it and had published articles...

The threat of a legal suit is the biggest joke. What statement was libelous? That Ferguson is a hypocrite? That Ferguson behaved in an outrageous, arrogant manner? Good luck Fergie in proving any of those claims false. Fergie is just blowing smoke about legal action.

Umm, no the libelous claims are that Levy said "in recent PUBLIC statements", the word is public, which shows he was basing his statement from yesterday on what The Sun said, which we all know is a lie right now, so yeah that Libelous.

Anyway, if Madrid got away with United's case...

I am actually an attorney. That is not libel. There was a public statement that was attributed to him. Even if Fergie claims he never said it, SAF is never going to show that Spurs knew that the statement was false as it was on a ManU fansite. Fergie has nothing as far as a lawsuit.

Don't know about a law suit but you could make a fine pin stripe out of this reply!

Let's try for 10 lines, Yeah!

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119. Craig-Wijckaans Wrote: | 20.49BST | Jul 21, 2008

Reply to RunPigRun:

Reply to Archie:
Reply to jim:
Reply to Phoenix:
Reply to jim:
Reply to Phoenix:
Reply to HarryHotspur:

I think the name calling is down to the genuine anger that most people have when thinking about the high handed manner with which Man Utd tend to conduct themselves.

I agree that Sir Alex isn't stupid. However he is extraordinarily arrogant.

Arrogance in extremely...

I've just read somewhere from the people who saw the article on the Fanzine(its not sponsored by United), who said there were some things that Fergie said that was lost in translation and before they took it down after that, but the hawks from the English press had seen it and had published articles...

The threat of a legal suit is the biggest joke. What statement was libelous? That Ferguson is a hypocrite? That Ferguson behaved in an outrageous, arrogant manner? Good luck Fergie in proving any of those claims false. Fergie is just blowing smoke about legal action.

Umm, no the libelous claims are that Levy said "in recent PUBLIC statements", the word is public, which shows he was basing his statement from yesterday on what The Sun said, which we all know is a lie right now, so yeah that Libelous.

Anyway, if Madrid got away with United's case...

I am actually an attorney. That is not libel. There was a public statement that was attributed to him. Even if Fergie claims he never said it, SAF is never going to show that Spurs knew that the statement was false as it was on a ManU fansite. Fergie has nothing as far as a lawsuit.

Don't know about a law suit but you could make a fine pin stripe out of this reply!

Let's try for 10 lines, Yeah!

10? pah

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120. GotThemNotStir Wrote: | 20.53BST | Jul 21, 2008

Oh dear.... :o

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121. MysteriousStranger Wrote: | 21.08BST | Jul 21, 2008

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I've just read somewhere from the people who saw the article on the Fanzine(its not sponsored by United), who said there were some things that Fergie said that was lost in translation and before they took it down after that, but the hawks from the English press had seen it and had published articles...

The threat of a legal suit is the biggest joke. What statement was libelous? That Ferguson is a hypocrite? That Ferguson behaved in an outrageous, arrogant manner? Good luck Fergie in proving any of those claims false. Fergie is just blowing smoke about legal action.

Umm, no the libelous claims are that Levy said "in recent PUBLIC statements", the word is public, which shows he was basing his statement from yesterday on what The Sun said, which we all know is a lie right now, so yeah that Libelous.

Anyway, if Madrid got away with United's case...

I am actually an attorney. That is not libel. There was a public statement that was attributed to him. Even if Fergie claims he never said it, SAF is never going to show that Spurs knew that the statement was false as it was on a ManU fansite. Fergie has nothing as far as a lawsuit.

Don't know about a law suit but you could make a fine pin stripe out of this reply!

Let's try for 10 lines, Yeah!

10? pah

11 and the thread has officially run it's course?

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122. doubletrouble Wrote: | 23.51BST | Jul 21, 2008

Lol.. at the comments here

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123. Phoenix Wrote: | 01.26BST | Jul 22, 2008

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Question. Where in AF's response today does he say; 'I can catagorically state that I have never approached or contacted Berbatov or his agent as alleged by Spurs' or 'I have never acted outside of PL rules' Go on, where? You manc twat.

Why was the article in the Sun posted on your...

I have something i'd like to ask everyone here...why would Ferguson tell the Norweigean website this story, and then tell Sky Sports something different like he won't mention the player? He's not stupid, i think he'd have known that the story he gave to the fansite would have gotten out? The reason...

I think the name calling is down to the genuine anger that most people have when thinking about the high handed manner with which Man Utd tend to conduct themselves.

I agree that Sir Alex isn't stupid. However he is extraordinarily arrogant.

Arrogance in extremely...

I've just read somewhere from the people who saw the article on the Fanzine(its not sponsored by United), who said there were some things that Fergie said that was lost in translation and before they took it down after that, but the hawks from the English press had seen it and had published articles...

The threat of a legal suit is the biggest joke. What statement was libelous? That Ferguson is a hypocrite? That Ferguson behaved in an outrageous, arrogant manner? Good luck Fergie in proving any of those claims false. Fergie is just blowing smoke about legal action.

Umm, no the libelous claims are that Levy said "in recent PUBLIC statements", the word is public, which shows he was basing his statement from yesterday on what The Sun said, which we all know is a lie right now, so yeah that Libelous.

Anyway, if Madrid got away with United's case...

I am actually an attorney. That is not libel. There was a public statement that was attributed to him. Even if Fergie claims he never said it, SAF is never going to show that Spurs knew that the statement was false as it was on a ManU fansite. Fergie has nothing as far as a lawsuit.

Just helping to your pinstripe cause, lol. As for the fansite quotes, looks to be a case of lost in translation, as they've issued this:
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124. Charley Wrote: | 14.48BST | Jul 22, 2008

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