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The Sol Campbell Saga

Thursday, 09 October 08, 04:53 AM · Comments (268)

 

Let me make my position perfectly clear. If Sol Campbell got hit by a bus tomorrow I wouldn't feel anything. He is, as they say, nothing to me. And I couldn't care less if he's gay, straight or Australian.

And so then to the 'The Sol Cambell Song' which I reproduce here, "Sol, Sol wherever you may be, not long now till lunacy, and we won't give a **** when you're hanging from a tree, you Judas **** with HIV".

Personally I go to games to cheer on our lot. I used to be bored by the 'Stand Up If You Hate Ar5ena1' chant. Now I'm embarrassed by it. When sung when we're not even playing them is an even more desperate reminder of how thin we are for songs. But anyway...

I don't sing the Sol song. It's a bloody angry bit of verse and as I said at the top of this, he's nothing to me now. But I don't sing it primarily because for all of it's venom, to me, the net result is to highlight a low in our Club's history. I'd rather get involved in something a bit more cheery, a little less grim of a Saturday afternoon.

Don't get me wrong. Barracking is good for the soul. Bellowing 'w*nker' repeatedly at one of their lot or the referee can be very theraputic. In fact, I'd recommed it.

The Sol Song. Is it racist? Based upon my own understanding of the Bible and it's tale of Judas combined with the fact that I wasn't raised in say, in the Deep South of the USA, to me it isn't. I'm not an apologist for this vicious bit of verse, just stating my personal opinion.

But we have had this hateful song doing the rounds now for what, seven years and what has it achieved? Well right now it has every bleeding heart in the media not to mention Hampshire Old Bill chasing our ambulance.

Brain Reade's sensationalist piece last week set the tone.

He was later joined by the ever outraged Peter 'F*ckwit' Tatchell in the Guardian.

Next on the scene was FA Chairman Lord Triesman.

Rio Ferdinand made an excellent statement in relation to the two bob fine Croatia got for the awful Heskey abuse. As a result of the 'renewed interest' in the Sol Campbell Song, Tottenham secured a mention in virtually all the coverage Rio got.   

It's time we moved on. Unless we lose this song, we are going to be mentioned in dispatches every time the race issue rears it's ugly head in football.

Let's play football and not into the hands of the politically correct.

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Posted by HarryHotspur | Comments (268)

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Grazza
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1. Grazza Wrote: | 12.43BST | Oct 9, 2008

I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.

Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....

Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.


Rez
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2. Rez Wrote: | 12.43BST | Oct 9, 2008

Exactly right.

And what's more, if he wants the furore to die down, all he has to do is apologise for his defection. Acknowledge the fans he deceived, betrayed and scorned. Say that it was an ill-advised action and the he shouldn't have lied about hsi intentions.

If he did, I'm sure the majority of fans would allow him some measure of dignity. Some may even find it in their hearts to forgive him and start treating him as a player who did well for us while here was at WHL.

Stop whining Campbell! Put your hands up and admit what you did, instead of hiding behind Harry's skirts.

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3. Chirpy Wrote: | 12.53BST | Oct 9, 2008

Well said HH. At worst it's a hate-filled, racist, homophobic piece and at best it's tediously embarrassing. For all our sakes can people please drop it from their ‘repertoire’.

Campbell is forgotten history, let's move on.

COYS

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4. peterridsdale Wrote: | 12.59BST | Oct 9, 2008

you say its time we moved on. It ain't. Such chants bring shame on our Spurs family, and turn what should be an enjoyable (and very expensive day-out) into a depressing experience.
Don't focus on whether the chant was racist or not (as this suggests if you can prove it wasn't, then everything is cool). The chant was vile and has no place anywhere, least of all at a place of so-called sporting entertainment where people spend 40 quid plus for a ticket and are seeking an escape from their daily lives for a few hours.

Harold - do not move on. Use your forum to let Spurs fans know this is unacceptable. Call people out on your board if it happens again. And a message to Levy - do more, do much more. Increase policing and ban those who you catch throwing abuse. Do a Cloughie, and post notices around the pitch to tell the morons there is difference between banter and abuse. Get the players to publically speak out on the issue. Make a tannoy announcement during the game; better still, stop the game if you have to and forfeit the points.

Being bottom of the league I can cope with. Having the good name of my club and fellow fans being dragged into the gutter by a bunch of humour-less morons is something I can't stand for.

Harold - don't walk away from this. Stand and fight for our club.





jamiespurs
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5. jamiespurs Wrote: | 12.59BST | Oct 9, 2008

HH

We all know for one reason or another the papers or more importantly 'sensationalist' papers such as The Daily Mail seem to dislike Spurs and enjoy writing derogatory articles about our club. The Camp*ell saga is another example of that.

Arsenal fans taunted Ashley Cole for being gay, Le Saux used to get taunted for being gay. Unfortunately, there will always be a minority of football fans that just shout abuse at players. Thats just the way it is.

The most annoying thing about the S*l saga is that Spurs fans are being called Racists. HOW can we be racists?? We come from North London, one of the most ethnically diverse places in Britain nay Europe or even the world. Our club captain is black among other star players that are also coloured and we have over the years had many black players in our teams. A good percentage of our squad is foreign, and we call ourselves yiddo's in response to our harsh treatment from other fans due to our team coming from a jewish area of london!

Why was the FA and police force not so keen to punish West Ham whenever we play them? They firstly 'hiss' to immitate gas chambers (the holocaust) and also when Mido played for us the chant of shoe bomber was rather unjust too.

In my opinion the the press and other people have very short memories and in terms of papers like the Daily Mail there is no point in even looking at their vitriolic, nonsensical rubbish.

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6. James Cowley Wrote: | 12.59BST | Oct 9, 2008

I agree, I've heard this sung quite a few times and never joined in. I'm not offended by it I just think it's a bit homophobic. It clearly isn't racist of course. I think we should come up with a new song about Sol steering clear of these issues.

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7. ed Wrote: | 13.03BST | Oct 9, 2008

First, grazza you have a point about the adebayor song, it is racist - and gets sung all over the place no matter who we play - interesting none of the hacks have complained about it. I have heard at every game home and away I have been to over the last few years but none of these journo's of higher moral status have mentioned it. The campbell song however is not racist and I don't believe it to be homophobic unless HIV is a disease that only affects gay people, I may be wrong but I don't think it does. that idiot deserves everything he gets.

jamiespurs
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8. jamiespurs Wrote: | 13.07BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Grazza:

I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.

Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....

Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.


What are the press banging on about??? Don't they know that Monday was the start of:

'Black History Month' on the official site???

Next thing you know we'll do a 'Gay History Month'

Just for Sol we'll do a 'Black AND Gay History Month' Or maybe just a hole weak!

Sorry for that one people, foolish and immature. I just couldn't help myself!

Nunchucks
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9. Nunchucks Wrote: | 13.08BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

HH

We all know for one reason or another the papers or more importantly 'sensationalist' papers such as The Daily Mail seem to dislike Spurs and enjoy writing derogatory articles about our club. The Camp*ell saga is another example of that.

Arsenal fans taunted Ashley...

What has that got to do with the price of fish in wartime?

By your own lips, you acknowledge John Terry to be a racist, yet he plays in a team richly populated with black fellas and is not remiss with the hugs when any of them score.

Denial is futile. We've been caught with our hands in the cookie jar. Now, it's hands up, straighten up and fly right time.

Nunchucks
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10. Nunchucks Wrote: | 13.08BST | Oct 9, 2008

A most excellent article.

HH for pres.

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11. Lard Wrote: | 13.13BST | Oct 9, 2008

Fair point Jamie - and indeed Seven Sisters is officially the most diverse area of London, and thus the whole of the UK.

By all means, I think the club should respond and officially denounce this song. It is designed to be as offensive as possible to Sol personally, but it over-steps the boundaries in doing so. The club should issue an intelligent press release both denouncing this song, saying that it is taken seriously, and then highlighting the many other forms of abuse that is rife amongst all supporters of all clubs. In other words, we are intent on cleaning our shop, but the problem is not ours alone so a more general approach by the FA etc should be taken (if it can't be policed by the fans themselves which would be ideal) rather than targeting one club.

We all know why this is news at the moment. I don't think we are a special case and in some ways I can understand the shadenfreude surounding our club and the eagerness to find ways to kick us around at the moment. It is a product of both an over-ambitious board and fans who believed both their and the medias hype regarding our standing - too much talk of a CL finish leading to too much pressure piled on from within and outside to achieve that, resulting in a veritable free-for-all of joyful abuse and rubber-necking now that the wheels have come off.

So, while I do understand why we are the media punchbag at the moment, (after all they do love to build something up so that they can kick it down again - a tried and tested media strategy), it is bloody annoying. This reaction to the Sol song is just the latest. Its absurd to characterize it as racist, and Spurs fans have been rightly shouting that at everyone trying to do so - after all I find it personally offensive to be called a racist by a transparently opportunistic band-wagon jumping no-mark like Peter Tatchell. It is offensive though, and like I said, if the club reacts in a sensible manner, at once condemning the song and also expressing...

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12. Basildon Wrote: | 13.13BST | Oct 9, 2008

It's not so much that Judas left to join the Woolwich Wanderers, but how he did it. A free transfer lining his own pockets, he was worth at least 20m at the time and could have easily signed a contract with a 10m get out clause (and they would have paid that) in stead he left the club that gave him his chance, made him captain and he alone robbed us of any compensation. Not just Tottenham fans but football fans everywhere should detest this sorry excuse for a human being.

Lard
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13. Lard Wrote: | 13.13BST | Oct 9, 2008

Ran out of space there, anyway I think you get my point!

billybigspud
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14. billybigspud Wrote: | 13.16BST | Oct 9, 2008

Southern trees, bear a strange fruit,
blood on the leaves, blood at the root,
black bodies swinging in the southern breeze,
strange fruit hanging from rhe poplar trees.
Billie Holliday - Strange Fruit

I'm afraid chaps that given their history, black people are entitled to get a little antsy when predominately white folk sing about hanging one of their number from a tree.
Of course we understand that it's not an issue of race, but most hear the words without knowing the context. The rest of it is just bitter homophobia. I'm all for calling opposing players and the ref. w*nkers but this vicious diatribe has to stop.

HornchurchYids
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15. HornchurchYids Wrote: | 13.19BST | Oct 9, 2008

A suitable replacement song needs to be found.

How about

Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not long now till lunacy
And we don't give a fuck if you have an STD
Cos you're a Judas cunt who went on a free.

Ticks all the boxes and keeps the PC brigade happy too. Everyone's a winner. ;)

Nunchucks
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16. Nunchucks Wrote: | 13.30BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to HornchurchYids:

A suitable replacement song needs to be found.

How about

Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not long now till lunacy
And we don't give a fuck if you have an STD
Cos you're a Judas cunt who went on a free.

Ticks all the boxes and keeps...

How about it was seven years ago: get over it.

peterridsdale
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17. peterridsdale Wrote: | 13.31BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Grazza:

I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.

Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....

Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.


do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.

jamiespurs
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18. jamiespurs Wrote: | 13.33BST | Oct 9, 2008

Sol should count himself lucky:

Figo found a pig's head was just one object among many - including a whisky bottle, mobile phones, golf balls - that rained down on Figo as he tried to take a corner kick for Real Madrid at the Nou Camp!

HarryHotspur
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19. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 13.39BST | Oct 9, 2008

Coming In Your Ears

LINK

billybigspud
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20. billybigspud Wrote: | 13.41BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Sol should count himself lucky:

Figo found a pig's head was just one object among many - including a whisky bottle, mobile phones, golf balls - that rained down on Figo as he tried to take a corner kick for Real Madrid at the Nou Camp!

Jamie,
What did you do with Shergar? ;)

billybigspud
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21. billybigspud Wrote: | 13.43BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to peterridsdale:

Reply to Grazza:

I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.

Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....

Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.


do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.

Prawn sandwich vicar?. Oh the poor downtrodden working-class :P

jamiespurs
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22. jamiespurs Wrote: | 13.43BST | Oct 9, 2008

Alan Shergar?

I sent him to work on the apprentice!

HarryHotspur
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23. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 13.45BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Sol should count himself lucky:

Figo found a pig's head was just one object among many - including a whisky bottle, mobile phones, golf balls - that rained down on Figo as he tried to take a corner kick for Real Madrid at the Nou Camp!

His ebay shop must be an Alladin's cave ....

munso
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24. munso Wrote: | 13.46BST | Oct 9, 2008

That song is a bit naughty as far as chants go, but there's nothing racist about it.
The hanging from a tree line relates to Sols perceived mental state, not the treatment of blacks in the deep south.
Still, it isn't very nice.

billybigspud
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25. billybigspud Wrote: | 13.46BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Alan Shergar?

I sent him to work on the apprentice!

I was thinking more of offers you can't refuse. clearly, Basil has not left the building.

billybigspud
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26. billybigspud Wrote: | 13.47BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to jamiespurs:

Sol should count himself lucky:

Figo found a pig's head was just one object among many - including a whisky bottle, mobile phones, golf balls - that rained down on Figo as he tried to take a corner kick for Real Madrid at the Nou Camp!

His ebay shop must be an Alladin's cave ....

=D =D

billybigspud
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27. billybigspud Wrote: | 13.51BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Coming In Your Ears

LINK

Harry,
Do you drive a wheelchair, drink from a vase and have a thing for Thora Hird?.

jamiespurs
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28. jamiespurs Wrote: | 13.52BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to billybigspud:

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Coming In Your Ears

LINK

Harry,
Do you drive a wheelchair, drink from a vase and have a thing for Thora Hird?.

I'm not as feng shui as you!

Surely one of the finest comedy shows ever?

HarryHotspur
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29. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 13.55BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to billybigspud:

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Coming In Your Ears

LINK

Harry,
Do you drive a wheelchair, drink from a vase and have a thing for Thora Hird?.

Dodgy Eric: [about the Bucking Bronco] I'll give you a week's free trial while I get your table fixed, then she's got to go to the European Finals in Dusseldorf.

Brian Potter: Dusseldorf? Oh, good. You can take "das fruit machine" back with you.

RJ1882
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30. RJ1882 Wrote: | 13.56BST | Oct 9, 2008

People are calling for us to forget about Campbell, forgotten history. But it isnt. Maybe once he hangs up his boots and doesnt frequent the gates of WHL ever again can we forget that he ever existed. But when he comes to visit, we have every right to give the bastard hell for what he done.
We remember the good times and our greatest achievments, so its hard to exoect us to forget about the bad times and one of the lowest points in our history. That may sound extreme, but it was teh ultimate betrayal and I for one think he deserves everything he gets from the terraces.

billybigspud
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31. billybigspud Wrote: | 13.57BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to HarryHotspur:

Coming In Your Ears

LINK

Harry,
Do you drive a wheelchair, drink from a vase and have a thing for Thora Hird?.

I'm not as feng shui as you!

Surely one of the finest comedy shows ever?

Did you like Early Doors by Craig Cash (Royle Family's Dave)?.

jamiespurs
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32. jamiespurs Wrote: | 13.59BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to HarryHotspur:

Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to HarryHotspur:

Coming In Your Ears

LINK

Harry,
Do you drive a wheelchair, drink from a vase and have a thing for Thora Hird?.

Dodgy Eric: [about the Bucking Bronco] I'll give you a week's free trial while I get your table fixed, then she's got to go to the European Finals in Dusseldorf.

Brian Potter: Dusseldorf? Oh, good. You can take "das fruit machine" back with you.

Dodgy Eric: She'll be shitting money

Brain Potter: If not it better start shitting snooker tables

HornchurchYids
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33. HornchurchYids Wrote: | 13.59BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Nunchucks:

Reply to HornchurchYids:

A suitable replacement song needs to be found.

How about

Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not long now till lunacy
And we don't give a fuck if you have an STD
Cos you're a Judas cunt who went on a free.

Ticks all the boxes and keeps...

How about it was seven years ago: get over it.

Sorry Nunchucks but I belive that any player associated with the scum deserves an earful whenever they come to the lane.

It's called rivalry.

Or maybe we should just hug opposing fans and spread love to all mankind?

Oops, sorry. You might see that mankind remark as sexist. No offense birds!

jamiespurs
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34. jamiespurs Wrote: | 14.01BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to billybigspud:

Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to HarryHotspur:

Coming In Your Ears

LINK

Harry,
Do you drive a wheelchair, drink from a vase and have a thing for Thora Hird?.

I'm not as feng shui as you!

Surely one of the finest comedy shows ever?

Did you like Early Doors by Craig Cash (Royle Family's Dave)?.

Prefered 'The Smoking Room' myself, You like that one? Never really got into Early Doors, on the rare occassion I caught it I found it funny but it never wuite held my attention.

Grazza
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35. Grazza Wrote: | 14.02BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to peterridsdale:

Reply to Grazza:

I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.

Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....

Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.


do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.

Yes mum

billybigspud
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36. billybigspud Wrote: | 14.03BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to HarryHotspur:

Coming In Your Ears

LINK

Harry,
Do you drive a wheelchair, drink from a vase and have a thing for Thora Hird?.

Dodgy Eric: [about the Bucking Bronco] I'll give you a week's free trial while I get your table fixed, then she's got to go to the European Finals in Dusseldorf.

Brian Potter: Dusseldorf? Oh, good. You can take "das fruit machine" back with you.

Dodgy Eric: She'll be shitting money

Brain Potter: If not it better start shitting snooker tables

Same guy delivered the bouncy castle with the 'giant lovelength', i almost cried with laughter. looking forward to his new show about pop reality shows this w/e.

The Sundance Yid
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37. The Sundance Yid Wrote: | 14.04BST | Oct 9, 2008

I say keep on singing it until he has the good grace to admit he shafted us.

At last someone comes out of the club and says something outside of the standard football speak, take a bow David Bentley! We are a laughing stock at the moment and while nothing can be done about the clowns at the top we could at least have some balls on the pitch. Make him captain straight away (or as soon as he has a haircut)!

spursfan333
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38. spursfan333 Wrote: | 14.04BST | Oct 9, 2008

A bit off subject I know, but aren't some people just massive arseholes?

LINK

people like this are great examples of how the UK's education system is epically failing.

HarryHotspur
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39. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 14.08BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to spursfan333:

A bit off subject I know, but aren't some people just massive arseholes?

LINK

people like this are great examples of how the UK's education system is epically failing.

This would explain where a lot of posters on here came from - the first week I moved to OleOle.... =D

Grazza
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40. Grazza Wrote: | 14.08BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Grazza:

Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to Grazza:

I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.

Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....

Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.


do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.

Yes mum

Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"

Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.

spursfan333
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41. spursfan333 Wrote: | 14.11BST | Oct 9, 2008

I swear the FA are taking all the fun out of football.

Singing and banter is just as much a part of the matchday experience as actually watching the game.

Football wouldnt be football without it!

Theyre like the health and safety men off Soccer AM

billybigspud
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42. billybigspud Wrote: | 14.13BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Grazza:

Reply to Grazza:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to Grazza:

I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.

Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....

Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.


do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.

Yes mum

Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"

Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.

Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground. ;)

billybigspud
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43. billybigspud Wrote: | 14.15BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to spursfan333:

I swear the FA are taking all the fun out of football.

Singing and banter is just as much a part of the matchday experience as actually watching the game.

Football wouldnt be football without it!

Theyre like the health and safety men off Soccer AM

Jamie, over to you.

Nunchucks
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44. Nunchucks Wrote: | 14.18BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to HornchurchYids:

Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to HornchurchYids:

A suitable replacement song needs to be found.

How about

Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not long now till lunacy
And we don't give a fuck if you have an STD
Cos you're a Judas cunt who went on a free.

Ticks all the boxes and keeps...

How about it was seven years ago: get over it.

Sorry Nunchucks but I belive that any player associated with the scum deserves an earful whenever they come to the lane.

It's called rivalry.

Or maybe we should just hug opposing fans and spread love to all mankind?

Oops, sorry. You might see that...

If that's your definition of rivalry, fair play to you.

You're probably one of the Spurs elite who bolts upright as soon as you hear someone start off 'Stand Up If You Hate Arsenal' when we're playing Bolton away. Nothing like a nice bit of rivalry when the rivals are 300 miles away, though, eh?

There's rivalry, and there's embarrassment. Watching some skiffle headed, cordy necked hokey scream about hanging from trees and HIV and all that jazz for seven years: that's embarrassing.

As is reading the room temperature IQ afflicted amongst you defending that shit.

Chirpy
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45. Chirpy Wrote: | 14.20BST | Oct 9, 2008

Tony Jimenez has left Newcastle to 'pursue other interests' - like Comolli's job perhaps?

spursfan333
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46. spursfan333 Wrote: | 14.21BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Nunchucks:

Reply to HornchurchYids:
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to HornchurchYids:

A suitable replacement song needs to be found.

How about

Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not long now till lunacy
And we don't give a fuck if you have an STD
Cos you're a Judas cunt who went on a free.

Ticks all the boxes and keeps...

How about it was seven years ago: get over it.

Sorry Nunchucks but I belive that any player associated with the scum deserves an earful whenever they come to the lane.

It's called rivalry.

Or maybe we should just hug opposing fans and spread love to all mankind?

Oops, sorry. You might see that...

If that's your definition of rivalry, fair play to you.

You're probably one of the Spurs elite who bolts upright as soon as you hear someone start off 'Stand Up If You Hate Arsenal' when we're playing Bolton away. Nothing like a nice bit of rivalry when the rivals are 300 miles away,...

Ouch 8O

chuckles
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47. chuckles Wrote: | 14.22BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Chirpy:

Tony Jimenez has left Newcastle to 'pursue other interests' - like Comolli's job perhaps?

was thinking the same thing myslef Chirpy, can't be any worse than Comolli.....

Grazza
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48. Grazza Wrote: | 14.22BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to billybigspud:

Reply to Grazza:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to Grazza:

I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.

Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....

Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.


do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.

Yes mum

Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"

Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.

Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground. ;)

Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.

I doubt he considered that the block I frequent is hardly populated by the shy retiring type and/or whippersnappers.

Patronizing fiend.

billybigspud
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49. billybigspud Wrote: | 14.24BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Nunchucks:

Reply to HornchurchYids:
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to HornchurchYids:

A suitable replacement song needs to be found.

How about

Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not long now till lunacy
And we don't give a fuck if you have an STD
Cos you're a Judas cunt who went on a free.

Ticks all the boxes and keeps...

How about it was seven years ago: get over it.

Sorry Nunchucks but I belive that any player associated with the scum deserves an earful whenever they come to the lane.

It's called rivalry.

Or maybe we should just hug opposing fans and spread love to all mankind?

Oops, sorry. You might see that...

If that's your definition of rivalry, fair play to you.

You're probably one of the Spurs elite who bolts upright as soon as you hear someone start off 'Stand Up If You Hate Arsenal' when we're playing Bolton away. Nothing like a nice bit of rivalry when the rivals are 300 miles away,...

Hear F*ckin' Hear.

ToniMontana
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50. ToniMontana Wrote: | 14.25BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Chirpy:

Tony Jimenez has left Newcastle to 'pursue other interests' - like Comolli's job perhaps?

Is he better than comolli? If yes, brign him in. Although I prefer no more DoF at the club.

thfcwaynethfc
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51. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 14.27BST | Oct 9, 2008

Being a loyal member of the GAWA (Green and White Army) - our home and away matches have the best atmoshphere in the world (yes better ATMOSPHERE than the lane on a derby day)- not cause are chants are racist/homophobic etc. our songs are just plain funny (i.e. were not brazil, away in a manger, no crib for a bed, the little lord jesus lay down his sweet head, the stars in the bright sky look down were Healy, Healy, Healy, you are my Davis my stevie Davis, you make me happy when skies are grey, so f**k your lampard, your stevie gerrard, please dont take our davis away), but ALL OUR FANS - get behind our team and means are small nation perform better - yes we our the 12th man - results at windsor park 3-2 spain, 1-0 england, 2-1 sweden, 0-0 czhec etc.

my point im trying to make is atmoshpere is crucially important at matches and can spur the players on. What I'm saying is songs dont have to be homophoic/racist etc (Not saying Sol song is racist)

i can see both sides of the argument...one is the song itself (i dont see it as racist) and so if fans sing it what is the prob? i can see the opposition as it is a disgusting song in terms of word choice, so is it appropriate at a match were kids are watching, tv cameras are watching...while watching match on sky i knew exactly what was being sung - yes i joined in (in my own living room), but knew there would be actions taken - the fa looking to investigate + my dad asking me to wash my mouth out ;)

You have to ask yourself - by singing a song like that and drawing attention to ourselves - did it spur the players on - did sol campbell performance suffer - the answer too both were NO. So then why sing it?

People will say they are letting sol know exactly how they feel for him - i think sol knows how we feel about him by now.

im with Harry, i couldnt care if sol died tomorro, that doesnt mean i have to keep singing songs about him at a match drawing attention to ourselves.

thfcwaynethfc
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52. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 14.28BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to chuckles:

Reply to Chirpy:

Tony Jimenez has left Newcastle to 'pursue other interests' - like Comolli's job perhaps?

was thinking the same thing myslef Chirpy, can't be any worse than Comolli.....

no not a debate about comolli again ;)

ToniMontana
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53. ToniMontana Wrote: | 14.30BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

Reply to chuckles:
Reply to Chirpy:

Tony Jimenez has left Newcastle to 'pursue other interests' - like Comolli's job perhaps?

was thinking the same thing myslef Chirpy, can't be any worse than Comolli.....

no not a debate about comolli again ;)

=D =D

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54. billybigspud Wrote: | 14.34BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Grazza:

Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to Grazza:

I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.

Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....

Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.


do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.

Yes mum

Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"

Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.

Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground. ;)

Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.

I doubt he...

Anyone who goes to a game expecting not to hear language of a fruity nature is delusional. I've been going since my dad took me to a home game against Wolves in the early 60's. I can remember singing along to 'Dougan is a fairy' which was pretty racy then, and embarrassed my dad. Not politically correct nowadays obviously, but the language has got increasingly worse, mine included.

chuckles
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55. chuckles Wrote: | 14.37BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

Being a loyal member of the GAWA (Green and White Army) - our home and away matches have the best atmoshphere in the world (yes better ATMOSPHERE than the lane on a derby day)- not cause are chants are racist/homophobic etc. our songs are just plain funny (i.e. were not brazil, away in a manger, no...

wayne, hate to disagree with you but some of the chants in windsor park are not in the least funny and i have experienced these from the other side of the community.

Anyway, that aside, being a free country you will always get an idiot who starts singing whatever he feels which then gives everyone else associated with the club a bad name.

This whole story about Sol's song will blow over in a matter of weeks once the press get something new to rant and rave about. There will no doubt be a few idiots singing it again loud and proud when we next play portsmouth and i hope the club make an example of them publically.

thfcwaynethfc
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56. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 14.39BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to chuckles:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

Being a loyal member of the GAWA (Green and White Army) - our home and away matches have the best atmoshphere in the world (yes better ATMOSPHERE than the lane on a derby day)- not cause are chants are racist/homophobic etc. our songs are just plain funny (i.e. were not brazil, away in a manger, no...

wayne, hate to disagree with you but some of the chants in windsor park are not in the least funny and i have experienced these from the other side of the community.

Anyway, that aside, being a free country you will always get an idiot who starts singing whatever he feels which then...

the atmosphere at windsor has changed over the last 3-4 years - making it enjoyable for both sides of the community.

again as you point out you will always get the odd one or two - which should be punished severely.

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57. HornchurchYids Wrote: | 14.40BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Nunchucks:

Reply to HornchurchYids:
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to HornchurchYids:

A suitable replacement song needs to be found.

How about

Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not long now till lunacy
And we don't give a fuck if you have an STD
Cos you're a Judas cunt who went on a free.

Ticks all the boxes and keeps...

How about it was seven years ago: get over it.

Sorry Nunchucks but I belive that any player associated with the scum deserves an earful whenever they come to the lane.

It's called rivalry.

Or maybe we should just hug opposing fans and spread love to all mankind?

Oops, sorry. You might see that...

If that's your definition of rivalry, fair play to you.

You're probably one of the Spurs elite who bolts upright as soon as you hear someone start off 'Stand Up If You Hate Arsenal' when we're playing Bolton away. Nothing like a nice bit of rivalry when the rivals are 300 miles away,...

My defintion of rivalry is standing on the old North Bank, Highbury with a load of Yids watching Robbo stick Charlie Nicholas in the stands.

But then my experiences as a Spurs fan are most likely completely different to you. They are no less valid, just different.

We can't all be like you Nunchucks.

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58. peterridsdale Wrote: | 14.44BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Grazza:

Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to Grazza:

I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.

Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....

Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.


do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.

Yes mum

Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"

Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.

Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground. ;)

Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.

I doubt he...

Of course it matters. Too many people on here are justifying the abuse given out to Campbell on the basis that 1. He deserves it 2. We are sit in a block where people only know two words and one begins with an F and the other with a C 3. its not racist and if its not racist, then whats the problem.

My hope is that the vast majority of Spurs fans don't want to hear this type of abuse ever again. There is nothing better than a genuinely funny chant or banter - it really is part of the game. But you are now resorting to vile and degrading abuse. For those who want to continue this hatred - you bring shame on us all. Do you really think that you have enhanced our reputation this week, but then again, I guess you don't care.

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59. Sue Wrote: | 14.47BST | Oct 9, 2008

Spurs is not a racist club. WHL is based in the most multicultural area in the country. Ledley King is idolised.
Yet attendance at any match at WHL is hardly family entertainment is it?
There is a moronic sub culture present in the game of football that is absent in any other game. Why is that?

peterridsdale
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60. peterridsdale Wrote: | 14.49BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to billybigspud:

Reply to Grazza:
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to Grazza:

I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.

Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....

Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.


do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.

Yes mum

Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"

Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.

Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground. ;)

Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.

I doubt he...

Anyone who goes to a game expecting not to hear language of a fruity nature is delusional. I've been going since my dad took me to a home game against Wolves in the early 60's. I can remember singing along to 'Dougan is a fairy' which was pretty racy then, and embarrassed my dad. Not politically...

delusional? Almost certainly.

But just because it may be impossible to stamp out the fruity language, it doesn't mean we have to put up with the X-rated stuff.

jamiespurs
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61. jamiespurs Wrote: | 14.51BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to ToniMontana:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to chuckles:
Reply to Chirpy:

Tony Jimenez has left Newcastle to 'pursue other interests' - like Comolli's job perhaps?

was thinking the same thing myslef Chirpy, can't be any worse than Comolli.....

no not a debate about comolli again ;)

=D =D

Whats this about Comolli??? ;)

Fatknacker - Where the people end up with rubber burns, BP "Rubber burns, I thought he was a scottish poet!"

billybigspud
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62. billybigspud Wrote: | 14.52BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to ToniMontana:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to chuckles:
Reply to Chirpy:

Tony Jimenez has left Newcastle to 'pursue other interests' - like Comolli's job perhaps?

was thinking the same thing myslef Chirpy, can't be any worse than Comolli.....

no not a debate about comolli again ;)

=D =D

Whats this about Comolli??? ;)

Fatknacker - Where the people end up with rubber burns, BP "Rubber burns, I thought he was a scottish poet!"

=D =D =D =D

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63. markdray Wrote: | 14.53BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to billybigspud:

Reply to Grazza:
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to Grazza:

I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.

Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....

Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.


do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.

Yes mum

Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"

Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.

Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground. ;)

Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.

I doubt he...

Anyone who goes to a game expecting not to hear language of a fruity nature is delusional. I've been going since my dad took me to a home game against Wolves in the early 60's. I can remember singing along to 'Dougan is a fairy' which was pretty racy then, and embarrassed my dad. Not politically...

I can remember getting home after spurs manure in the 70s .. and wandering around singing 'He's shot, he;s cum , all over marys bum tommy doc' ... and my mum looking at me in horror ...

billybigspud
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64. billybigspud Wrote: | 15.03BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to peterridsdale:

Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to peterridsdale:

do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.

Yes mum

Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"

Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.

Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground. ;)

Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.

I doubt he...

Anyone who goes to a game expecting not to hear language of a fruity nature is delusional. I've been going since my dad took me to a home game against Wolves in the early 60's. I can remember singing along to 'Dougan is a fairy' which was pretty racy then, and embarrassed my dad. Not politically...

delusional? Almost certainly.

But just because it may be impossible to stamp out the fruity language, it doesn't mean we have to put up with the X-rated stuff.

We are in absolute agreement on the Campbell song. It is blatantly homophobic and perceived to be racist, a particularly spiteful and unpleasant chant of the type that should have stayed with the 'Life on Mars' generation.
Trying to ban other fruity language on the back of it is Quixotic. We all want to protect our kids from the unpleasant side of life, but you can't wrap them in cotton wool. I guess that, like my dad, your'e probably more uncomfortable about it than your children.

billybigspud
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65. billybigspud Wrote: | 15.04BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to markdray:

Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to peterridsdale:

do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.

Yes mum

Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"

Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.

Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground. ;)

Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.

I doubt he...

Anyone who goes to a game expecting not to hear language of a fruity nature is delusional. I've been going since my dad took me to a home game against Wolves in the early 60's. I can remember singing along to 'Dougan is a fairy' which was pretty racy then, and embarrassed my dad. Not politically...

I can remember getting home after spurs manure in the 70s .. and wandering around singing 'He's shot, he;s cum , all over marys bum tommy doc' ... and my mum looking at me in horror ...

oh sh*t =D =D =D =D

Nunchucks
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66. Nunchucks Wrote: | 15.04BST | Oct 9, 2008

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Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to HornchurchYids:
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to HornchurchYids:

A suitable replacement song needs to be found.

How about

Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not long now till lunacy
And we don't give a fuck if you have an STD
Cos you're a Judas cunt who went on a free.

Ticks all the boxes and keeps...

How about it was seven years ago: get over it.

Sorry Nunchucks but I belive that any player associated with the scum deserves an earful whenever they come to the lane.

It's called rivalry.

Or maybe we should just hug opposing fans and spread love to all mankind?

Oops, sorry. You might see that...

If that's your definition of rivalry, fair play to you.

You're probably one of the Spurs elite who bolts upright as soon as you hear someone start off 'Stand Up If You Hate Arsenal' when we're playing Bolton away. Nothing like a nice bit of rivalry when the rivals are 300 miles away,...

My defintion of rivalry is standing on the old North Bank, Highbury with a load of Yids watching Robbo stick Charlie Nicholas in the stands.

But then my experiences as a Spurs fan are most likely completely different to you. They are no less valid, just different.

We...

Let's hug it out.

thfcwaynethfc
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67. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.04BST | Oct 9, 2008

as ppl are already pissed off with my little comolli pic....i originally said i will wait to jan window to see wether i keep the mr comollis pic or not - however im willing to remove it now - for the first person to come up with a chant/song for every1 to sing at whitehart lane - the chant cannot be racisit/homophobic/contain swear words - the 1st person to make me laugh - will win the prize of off seeing me remove my hero mr comolli ;) and pick out a new pic - anything you want!

songs please.....

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68. jamiespurs Wrote: | 15.11BST | Oct 9, 2008

Come on, what parent wants to completely censor their childs life? I think its not only unreasonable but it also fails to prepare them for the real world. Its not bad enough that we live in a nanny state some people now want to make their kids live in bubbles.

Lets face it for all the efforts parents make to avoid their kids coming into contact with swearing etc it will all go right out the window in the real world! Kids swear, they find it amusing because its forbidden. For all of you saying "oh my kid shouldn't be exposed to this etc" just remember that when they go to school they'll end up looking at porn, swearing, trying cigarettes maybe through peer pressure try drugs. There is only so long you can wrap kids in cotton wool.

Football is stressful and going to a game is even more stressful. I'm not saying that its alright for grown men to F and C the place down but its just a part of life. IMO trying to ban it will not work, we just have to accept that some people find it perfectly normal to f&c and some people dont.

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69. billybigspud Wrote: | 15.12BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

as ppl are already pissed off with my little comolli pic....i originally said i will wait to jan window to see wether i keep the mr comollis pic or not - however im willing to remove it now - for the first person to come up with a chant/song for every1 to sing at whitehart lane - the chant cannot be...

I apologise for having said harsh words to you on a previous post. You are clearly a gent, a little confused imo but nethertheless a gent ;)

Grazza
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70. Grazza Wrote: | 15.12BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to peterridsdale:

Reply to Grazza:
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to Grazza:

I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.

Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....

Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.


do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.

Yes mum

Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"

Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.

Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground. ;)

Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.

I doubt he...

Of course it matters. Too many people on here are justifying the abuse given out to Campbell on the basis that 1. He deserves it 2. We are sit in a block where people only know two words and one begins with an F and the other with a C 3. its not racist and if its not racist, then whats the...

Lets get this straight, i have never been a supporter or advocate of the Campbell song or the Adebayor song. I certainly dont feel comfortable singing stuff like that. I dont think its big or clever.

Thats why i said call a C a C - as in "tell it how it is"

I certainly do care about about singing ridiculous songs about Campbell/Adebayor because the criticism from all around is very hard to take, esp when im not involved. I swear plenty at football but i certainly dont cross the line signing crap like that.

If you look at my first post it says time to knock these songs on the head. What i meant by my second point in the same is "tell it like it is". Im not so stupid im going to start effing & c'ing next to a father & child.

I think we are at cross purposes somewhere so i'll leave it at that.

Why the name anyway?

Nunchucks
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71. Nunchucks Wrote: | 15.14BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

as ppl are already pissed off with my little comolli pic....i originally said i will wait to jan window to see wether i keep the mr comollis pic or not - however im willing to remove it now - for the first person to come up with a chant/song for every1 to sing at whitehart lane - the chant cannot be...

Who was the cat with the Ewa Sonnet avatar? Now that was a goddamn avatar.

I miss him.

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72. peterridsdale Wrote: | 15.17BST | Oct 9, 2008

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Yes mum

Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"

Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.

Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground. ;)

Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.

I doubt he...

Anyone who goes to a game expecting not to hear language of a fruity nature is delusional. I've been going since my dad took me to a home game against Wolves in the early 60's. I can remember singing along to 'Dougan is a fairy' which was pretty racy then, and embarrassed my dad. Not politically...

delusional? Almost certainly.

But just because it may be impossible to stamp out the fruity language, it doesn't mean we have to put up with the X-rated stuff.

We are in absolute agreement on the Campbell song. It is blatantly homophobic and perceived to be racist, a particularly spiteful and unpleasant chant of the type that should have stayed with the 'Life on Mars' generation.
Trying to ban other fruity language on the back of it is Quixotic. We...

Agreed - a formal ban on fruity language is futile and an attack on our civil rights. However, too many people think it is their right to use industrial language just because they are at a football match. Why? We can't wrap kids in cotton wool but that doesn't mean people have the right to shout f**k, c**t, and w*****r throughout the match.

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73. billybigspud Wrote: | 15.18BST | Oct 9, 2008

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Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

as ppl are already pissed off with my little comolli pic....i originally said i will wait to jan window to see wether i keep the mr comollis pic or not - however im willing to remove it now - for the first person to come up with a chant/song for every1 to sing at whitehart lane - the chant cannot be...

Who was the cat with the Ewa Sonnet avatar? Now that was a goddamn avatar.

I miss him.

Just looked her up and found her on Lana's big boobs website. I can see why you miss him, you should set up a link 8O ;)

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74. The Cockney Wrote: | 15.18BST | Oct 9, 2008

Hypocritical nonsense!

Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow annihilation of the oppressed people of the world, off of which we maintain our standard of living.

This in turn has made our society lazy, unfulfilled and full of pathetic 'rules' by police ourselves thus enabling those at the top to rule over our masses under the so called banner of 'law and order'.

This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism.

The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried out by that state.

Then we start getting uppity about a couple of songs which are self censored to allude to racist comments but are not overtly racist.

I can't believe you HH would become such an agent of PR for the club like the hungry whore of Babylon you have become!

I've been a Spurs fan for 30 years and I still live in Haringey unlike most of you pathetic fans, we've had plenty of players of all races and creeds, from Nayim, Mido, Ghaly to Garth, Ossie, Ricky and Ronnie Rozenthal but we all understand what is sung is all fair in rivalry. Today's songs are a self censured form of expression, so what if Footballers don't like it, they should deal with the consequences, and as far as I know it doesn't go beyond the terraces on match days. It's part and parcel of the banter at a football match and nothing beyond.

Stop kidding yourselves, bring out the truth and stop being such a bunch of puppets, 'oh no I never sing those songs' why lie to yourselves?

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75. jamiespurs Wrote: | 15.19BST | Oct 9, 2008

Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!

I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??

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76. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.21BST | Oct 9, 2008

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Hypocritical nonsense!

Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow...

"This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."

there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.

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77. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.23BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!

I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??

i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.

im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure it

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78. chuckles Wrote: | 15.25BST | Oct 9, 2008

8O 8O 8O

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79. Nunchucks Wrote: | 15.26BST | Oct 9, 2008

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Reply to The Cockney:

Hypocritical nonsense!

Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow...

"This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."

there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.

You picked out the wrong paragraph.

This is the money shot right here:

"The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried out by that state."

A mildly interesting read until this statement, which unfortunately took the sting out of the rest of the article due to my subsequently wondering if the author was downs syndrome.

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80. jamiespurs Wrote: | 15.29BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

Reply to jamiespurs:

Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!

I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??

i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.

im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure it

Well there you go. How do you measure the immeasurable! One persons limit may be one persons starting point.

To be quite honest I think today on here as seen some of the most pointless arguments I have ever witnessed. Banning people from swearing would be ludicrous and against free speech.

Fair enough the racist and homophobic chanting is out of order but swearing?? Really?

I have been falsely accused of racism in the past and to be quite honest I find some people hide behind the "he's being a racist" argument too often. I fear this country is becoming a farce.

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81. chuckles Wrote: | 15.29BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!

I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??

I'd argue that nearly everyone here very often finds themselves roaring at a decision or action on the pitch with industrial language not realising what they're actually saying. this happens with every sports and is only human nature

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82. jamiespurs Wrote: | 15.31BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to chuckles:

Reply to jamiespurs:

Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!

I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??

I'd argue that nearly everyone here very often finds themselves roaring at a decision or action on the pitch with industrial language not realising what they're actually saying. this happens with every sports and is only human nature

Chuckles,

Hitting the nail on the head, human nature. Some people swear, some people don't I defy everyone on here that says they have NEVER used a profanity. Its a way of life in the modern world, some may not like it but they will have to accept it. I'd hate it if they banned swearing, I'd be f*cking livid! ;)

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83. billybigspud Wrote: | 15.32BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to peterridsdale:

Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to Grazza:

Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"

Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.

Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground. ;)

Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.

I doubt he...

Anyone who goes to a game expecting not to hear language of a fruity nature is delusional. I've been going since my dad took me to a home game against Wolves in the early 60's. I can remember singing along to 'Dougan is a fairy' which was pretty racy then, and embarrassed my dad. Not politically...

delusional? Almost certainly.

But just because it may be impossible to stamp out the fruity language, it doesn't mean we have to put up with the X-rated stuff.

We are in absolute agreement on the Campbell song. It is blatantly homophobic and perceived to be racist, a particularly spiteful and unpleasant chant of the type that should have stayed with the 'Life on Mars' generation.
Trying to ban other fruity language on the back of it is Quixotic. We...

Agreed - a formal ban on fruity language is futile and an attack on our civil rights. However, too many people think it is their right to use industrial language just because they are at a football match. Why? We can't wrap kids in cotton wool but that doesn't mean people have the right to shout...

I've always considered it a bit of an unwritten contract that when i've bought my ticket it comes with a right to let off a little steam. This often results in me questioning the parentage and solo sexual habits of the ref. and opposition. Like Grazza I'd temper this if sitting near children. I'd suggest you get used to it or go watch the rugby.

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84. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.40BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jamiespurs:

Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!

I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??

i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.

im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure it

Well there you go. How do you measure the immeasurable! One persons limit may be one persons starting point.

To be quite honest I think today on here as seen some of the most pointless arguments I have ever witnessed. Banning people from swearing would be ludicrous and against free...

i agree - i do not swear in everyday life - however at a football game (any game) - i swear all the time - i dont know why - think its frustration.

i think its ok to swear - ( i was going to say within reason :) )

i havent a clue about the swearing debate - if your sitting next to a child and someone keeps swearing then i would feel uncomfortale.

ok i think i have got it

i believe we should all make an effort not to swear, if it happens it happens, least we tried.

im confusing myself

fuck ;)

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85. Yidfield_General Wrote: | 15.41BST | Oct 9, 2008

Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not your sexuality or ethnicity
Or your age or your dress sense or mentality
Your just a lying **** and this song's PC!

8O

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86. peterridsdale Wrote: | 15.42BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jamiespurs:

Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!

I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??

i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.

im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure it

Well there you go. How do you measure the immeasurable! One persons limit may be one persons starting point.

To be quite honest I think today on here as seen some of the most pointless arguments I have ever witnessed. Banning people from swearing would be ludicrous and against free...

no one is talking about banning swearing. That would obviously be futile. But too many of you are justifying your right to swear on the basis that parents are being too protective of their kids. Why not let them watch porn when they are at kindergarten - after all, they will see it eventually?

Families have just as much right to go to Spurs as you do, and it is no longer reasonable for them to have to tolerate constant swearing just because you think it is OK. Society does not accept such behaviour at other sporting events - why do you think football is an exception?

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87. jamiespurs Wrote: | 15.42BST | Oct 9, 2008

Wayne

I do try not to swear when there are children presesnt but when they are little sh*ts what can you do! lol

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88. The Cockney Wrote: | 15.44BST | Oct 9, 2008

No you don't have to sing along but whose to say anyone can stop anyone else from singing what is essentially a release at a football match against a rival player who has wronged the club.

If you look closely then you will realise this is an engineered plan in order to make draconian changes to the way we think and what can be expressed at a football match. We have come a long way, to the stage where we are all self censuring, personally I don't see a need for further censorship because it's unhealthy and all it does is keeps people's true feelings hidden which is the reason why our institutions are failing us today because it's such a big lie.

This is an argument about suppressing as oppossed to expression and we must stop the sheep mentality as well as the absurd suggestions that we don't by now know better as to what is acceptable and what isn't. It's a stick and carrot and I for one am not a f-ing donkey to be hit by a stick every time I want to express my feelings at a football match.

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89. billybigspud Wrote: | 15.44BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Yidfield_General:

Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not your sexuality or ethnicity
Or your age or your dress sense or mentality
Your just a lying **** and this song's PC!

8O

=D =D =D
You my friend are a f*ckin' poet.

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90. peterridsdale Wrote: | 15.45BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

Reply to jamiespurs:

Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!

I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??

i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.

im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure it

oh, so if we can't measure it, lets just swear as much as we want. Stop making excuses, clean up your act, and make WHL a great place for everyone to go to.

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91. billybigspud Wrote: | 15.48BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to The Cockney:

No you don't have to sing along but whose to say anyone can stop anyone else from singing what is essentially a release at a football match against a rival player who has wronged the club.

If you look closely then you will realise this is an engineered plan in order to make draconian...

I prefer the carrot to the stick, only in your case i'm not sure where i'd want to shove it. :P

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92. Yidfield_General Wrote: | 15.48BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to peterridsdale:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jamiespurs:

Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!

I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??

i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.

im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure it

oh, so if we can't measure it, lets just swear as much as we want. Stop making excuses, clean up your act, and make WHL a great place for everyone to go to.

I do solemnly "swear" not to swear so much if Spurs start winning some games!

That's about the best I can offer!

:D

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93. peterridsdale Wrote: | 15.49BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to chuckles:
Reply to jamiespurs:

Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!

I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??

I'd argue that nearly everyone here very often finds themselves roaring at a decision or action on the pitch with industrial language not realising what they're actually saying. this happens with every sports and is only human nature

Chuckles,

Hitting the nail on the head, human nature. Some people swear, some people don't I defy everyone on here that says they have NEVER used a profanity. Its a way of life in the modern world, some may not like it but they will have to accept it. I'd hate it if they banned...

we have been accepting it for the last 30 years and the Campbell incident saw us reach the low point of decency. Again, no one is talking about banning, and the nature of football is that there will always be swearing. However, too many of you think that your ticket gives you the right to swear throughout the whole game. It's not acceptable anymore. Clean up your act

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94. billybigspud Wrote: | 15.50BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to peterridsdale:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jamiespurs:

Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!

I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??

i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.

im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure it

oh, so if we can't measure it, lets just swear as much as we want. Stop making excuses, clean up your act, and make WHL a great place for everyone to go to.

Lets homogenise the world, i could do with a 'Stepford wife'.

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95. peterridsdale Wrote: | 15.51BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Yidfield_General:

Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jamiespurs:

Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!

I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??

i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.

im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure it

oh, so if we can't measure it, lets just swear as much as we want. Stop making excuses, clean up your act, and make WHL a great place for everyone to go to.

I do solemnly "swear" not to swear so much if Spurs start winning some games!

That's about the best I can offer!

:D

its a start.

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96. chuckles Wrote: | 15.52BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to peterridsdale:

Reply to Yidfield_General:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jamiespurs:

Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!

I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??

i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.

im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure it

oh, so if we can't measure it, lets just swear as much as we want. Stop making excuses, clean up your act, and make WHL a great place for everyone to go to.

I do solemnly "swear" not to swear so much if Spurs start winning some games!

That's about the best I can offer!

:D

its a start.

Group hug......... :D

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97. HornchurchYids Wrote: | 15.53BST | Oct 9, 2008

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Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to The Cockney:

Hypocritical nonsense!

Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow...

"This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."

there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.

You picked out the wrong paragraph.

This is the money shot right here:

"The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried...

Nunchucks

Your spiteful comment belittling people with developmental disorders takes the sting out of your argument too I'm afraid.

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98. jamiespurs Wrote: | 15.55BST | Oct 9, 2008

peterridsdale

Will you please stop with this incessant 'clean up your act' campaign. I'm not saying every other word is a swear word OR that its perfectly acceptable to swear all the time, I think you have to realise that in certain pressure moments, like at a football match people swear, its a pressure release mechanism.

To be quite honest you sound like the kind of guy who's had his kids doing chores since they were 4 and ban them from watching tv after 8pm in order to teach them the merits of a virtuous life. I'm afraid you seem to be living in the victorian era my friend.

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99. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.56BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Yidfield_General:

Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not your sexuality or ethnicity
Or your age or your dress sense or mentality
Your just a lying **** and this song's PC!

8O

i was getting ready to remove my comolli pic, up until the last line were i noticed **** ;)

good song tho :)

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100. The Cockney Wrote: | 15.56BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Nunchucks:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to The Cockney:

Hypocritical nonsense!

Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow...

"This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."

there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.

You picked out the wrong paragraph.

This is the money shot right here:

"The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried...

To Nunchucks,

What is it you don't agree with about the statement about Israel. Are you disputing what I wrote, so then let's discuss it, you make your case and allow me to divulge some facts but don't just assume whenever anyone questions anything about Israel that they don't have a very valid point because you are just being ignorant and dismissive without any grounds to be.

So you tell me what's worse, the fact that this football club is a supporter of Israel which is in effect a terrorist state built on terrorism or that a few fans sing some censured songs on the terraces which doesn't go any further and therefore cannot be seriously questioned as having a profound effect on that player, especially when a player has to go through that maybe 180 minutes in a season?

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101. jamiespurs Wrote: | 15.58BST | Oct 9, 2008

Well done Nunchucks! lol

Another thing for PeterPissdale to get his knockers in a twist about!

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102. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 15.58BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to peterridsdale:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jamiespurs:

Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!

I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??

i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.

im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure it

oh, so if we can't measure it, lets just swear as much as we want. Stop making excuses, clean up your act, and make WHL a great place for everyone to go to.

some people swearing is human nature - ie they dont even know its swearing.

im saying people should make an effort to stop - but if a decison does not go your way, its hard not to pop out a swear word.

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103. TMWNN Wrote: | 16.00BST | Oct 9, 2008

H liked the interview, without sounding like a brown noser, I couldn't really disagree with anything you said.

I thought you'd sound a bit more of a geezer though. ;)

Talking of geezers, where's the Tanner interview?

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104. jamiespurs Wrote: | 16.02BST | Oct 9, 2008

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your favourite obscenity. It will make you feel better!

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105. chuckles Wrote: | 16.03BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to The Cockney:

Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to The Cockney:

Hypocritical nonsense!

Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow...

"This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."

there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.

You picked out the wrong paragraph.

This is the money shot right here:

"The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried...

To Nunchucks,

What is it you don't agree with about the statement about Israel. Are you disputing what I wrote, so then let's discuss it, you make your case and allow me to divulge some facts but don't just assume whenever anyone questions anything about Israel that they don't have a...

This is a footbal forum and not a political one so why start with the debate about Israel.

I know that the last few days have been boring with the endless discussing on Comolli but i'm sure we can find some more relevant to the club to discuss than this... ;)

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106. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 16.04BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to chuckles:

Reply to The Cockney:
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to The Cockney:

Hypocritical nonsense!

Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow...

"This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."

there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.

You picked out the wrong paragraph.

This is the money shot right here:

"The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried...

To Nunchucks,

What is it you don't agree with about the statement about Israel. Are you disputing what I wrote, so then let's discuss it, you make your case and allow me to divulge some facts but don't just assume whenever anyone questions anything about Israel that they don't have a...

This is a footbal forum and not a political one so why start with the debate about Israel.

I know that the last few days have been boring with the endless discussing on Comolli but i'm sure we can find some more relevant to the club to discuss than this... ;)

it wasnt really discussing,

i was getting bullied ;)

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107. jamiespurs Wrote: | 16.04BST | Oct 9, 2008

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H liked the interview, without sounding like a brown noser, I couldn't really disagree with anything you said.

I thought you'd sound a bit more of a geezer though. ;)

Talking of geezers, where's the Tanner interview?

I was expecting HH to sound like a modern day cockney Cholmley Warner. Or like Alf Ramsey, you know, he knew he wasn't posh but tried to sound it anyways. No offence HH.

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108. jamiespurs Wrote: | 16.05BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to chuckles:

Reply to The Cockney:
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to The Cockney:

Hypocritical nonsense!

Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow...

"This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."

there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.

You picked out the wrong paragraph.

This is the money shot right here:

"The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried...

To Nunchucks,

What is it you don't agree with about the statement about Israel. Are you disputing what I wrote, so then let's discuss it, you make your case and allow me to divulge some facts but don't just assume whenever anyone questions anything about Israel that they don't have a...

This is a footbal forum and not a political one so why start with the debate about Israel.

I know that the last few days have been boring with the endless discussing on Comolli but i'm sure we can find some more relevant to the club to discuss than this... ;)

Israelites! Now if we could get a chant going to the tune of the Desmond Dekkers "the israelites" that would be good! lol

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109. Nunchucks Wrote: | 16.06BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to HornchurchYids:

Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to The Cockney:

Hypocritical nonsense!

Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow...

"This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."

there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.

You picked out the wrong paragraph.

This is the money shot right here:

"The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried...

Nunchucks

Your spiteful comment belittling people with developmental disorders takes the sting out of your argument too I'm afraid.

I'm a hypocrite. Sue me.

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110. peterridsdale Wrote: | 16.07BST | Oct 9, 2008

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peterridsdale

Will you please stop with this incessant 'clean up your act' campaign. I'm not saying every other word is a swear word OR that its perfectly acceptable to swear all the time, I think you have to realise that in certain pressure moments, like at a football match people...

Here is why I have turned into Mary Whitehouse. I am embarrassed by what my so-called fellow fans did at Pompey and I want it to stop, and I want the silent majority of Spurs fans to want it to stop as well. Too many of you seem to think that provided our chants are not racist or homophobic then it is open house. It is not.

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111. The Cockney Wrote: | 16.08BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to billybigspud:

Reply to The Cockney:

No you don't have to sing along but whose to say anyone can stop anyone else from singing what is essentially a release at a football match against a rival player who has wronged the club.

If you look closely then you will realise this is an engineered plan in order to make draconian...

I prefer the carrot to the stick, only in your case i'm not sure where i'd want to shove it. :P

To Fatknacker,

You see there you go being all insulting when I thought you may have said something intelligent to be able to argue your case.

I say make your point, debate, be offensive if you must but say something substantial and of substance, don't just talk from the wrong end because that's just ignorant.

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112. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 16.14BST | Oct 9, 2008

LINK

what a story hehe

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113. peterridsdale Wrote: | 16.14BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your so-called fellow fans did at Portsmouth, or perhaps you were impressed by their creativity.

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114. HornchurchYids Wrote: | 16.15BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Nunchucks:

Reply to HornchurchYids:
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to The Cockney:

Hypocritical nonsense!

Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow...

"This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."

there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.

You picked out the wrong paragraph.

This is the money shot right here:

"The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried...

Nunchucks

Your spiteful comment belittling people with developmental disorders takes the sting out of your argument too I'm afraid.

I'm a hypocrite. Sue me.

an honest hypocrite ;)

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115. jamiespurs Wrote: | 16.16BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to peterridsdale:

Reply to jamiespurs:

peterridsdale

Will you please stop with this incessant 'clean up your act' campaign. I'm not saying every other word is a swear word OR that its perfectly acceptable to swear all the time, I think you have to realise that in certain pressure moments, like at a football match people...

Here is why I have turned into Mary Whitehouse. I am embarrassed by what my so-called fellow fans did at Pompey and I want it to stop, and I want the silent majority of Spurs fans to want it to stop as well. Too many of you seem to think that provided our chants are not racist or homophobic then it...

Look I wasn't there so I can't say anything about what happened. Quite frankly your ideas about us all going back to an era when everyone smoked, wore flat caps and used those stupid rattles is not realistic. Football fans do not go round shouting 'bravo' 'jolly good stuff' that went out in the 60's.

We live in a world where violence, swearing and scenes of a sexual nature are readily available. The world has moved on from the matinee movies and having to go to the cinema to watch the news, get out of your bomb shelter and have a look my friend. The world isn't a bed of roses!

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116. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 16.16BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to peterridsdale:

Reply to jamiespurs:

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

"I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high"

what happens if emotions for some fans last 90 minutes.

again you can not measure it.

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117. Yidfield_General Wrote: | 16.17BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to peterridsdale:

Reply to jamiespurs:

peterridsdale

Will you please stop with this incessant 'clean up your act' campaign. I'm not saying every other word is a swear word OR that its perfectly acceptable to swear all the time, I think you have to realise that in certain pressure moments, like at a football match people...

Here is why I have turned into Mary Whitehouse. I am embarrassed by what my so-called fellow fans did at Pompey and I want it to stop, and I want the silent majority of Spurs fans to want it to stop as well. Too many of you seem to think that provided our chants are not racist or homophobic then it...

I get where you are coming from but you simply cannot tell adults to stop saying this or stop doing that. It simply doesn't work. We all know right from wrong but we are turning in to a nation of pussies and cry babies, who yell racism, ageism and every other ism that springs to mind because we are all becoming brainwashed. I hear kids swearing on the streets and if i've got my two with me, 5 and 3yrs old, it annoys me because I don't want them to hear that but there is really no pont in me trying to change those kids. Morals need to be taught in the home, church or school after that you're on your own my friend. Football is an outlet for adults to vent. Whether you like it or not many adults (mainly male) go to football for the tribal need, the belonging to a family/clan, to drink and be merry and to sing and curse. I honestly believe that some of this is down to genetics. We are tribal creatures. Let's just be thankful that we are no longer tearing each other apart inside or outside the stadiums!

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118. billybigspud Wrote: | 16.20BST | Oct 9, 2008

I gave your piece all the consideration it deserved.
You managed to pull your unbalanced political ideas about socialism, zionism etc. into an unbalanced tirade.
This is a football forum, take your politics somewhere else.
In your case ignorance is bliss.

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119. Grazza Wrote: | 16.20BST | Oct 9, 2008

White Hart Lane the year is 2045...

LINK

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120. Nunchucks Wrote: | 16.22BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to The Cockney:

Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to The Cockney:

Hypocritical nonsense!

Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow...

"This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."

there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.

You picked out the wrong paragraph.

This is the money shot right here:

"The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried...

To Nunchucks,

What is it you don't agree with about the statement about Israel. Are you disputing what I wrote, so then let's discuss it, you make your case and allow me to divulge some facts but don't just assume whenever anyone questions anything about Israel that they don't have a...

I declined the opportunity to engage in debate with you with my off-hand dismissal because I resent your explicit inference that I'm racist, simply because you can't believe how anyone can't possibly be.

So, go on then. Educate me. Expatiate on how Tottenham Hotspurs is a terrorist funding organisation.

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121. jamiespurs Wrote: | 16.23BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to peterridsdale:

Reply to jamiespurs:

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they weren't all there dressed as the KKK. IMO they are probably not racists, how can they when they probably all love Ledley King. They just hate Sol Campbell. But like i said, thats their choice.

I'm not trying to tell them how to live their life or how what to think, we are all free to think and say what we want, if it convenes any laws then they must accept the punishment, thats the way the world works.

Your thinly veiled attempt at calling me a racist was rather pathetic, a bit like your wishy washy Mary Whitehous views on life. We have to accept that it won't stop because it won't.

As long as people are being born and people are shuffling off their mortal coil people will swear, its just as Chuckles said a way of life. Much like preaching inane uninteresting views is to you.

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122. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 16.25BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

to swear is to do

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123. chuckles Wrote: | 16.26BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

to swear is to do

=D

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124. jamiespurs Wrote: | 16.27BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to chuckles:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

to swear is to do

=D

Audere Est Fuckere

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125. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 16.28BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to chuckles:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

to swear is to do

=D

Audere Est Fuckere

=D =D =D

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126. billybigspud Wrote: | 16.29BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to chuckles:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

to swear is to do

=D

Audere Est Fuckere

Jean Claude Van-Damme ?. ;)

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127. Yidfield_General Wrote: | 16.29BST | Oct 9, 2008

Should have got that tattoo'd om my back instead!!! =D =D

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128. Yidfield_General Wrote: | 16.30BST | Oct 9, 2008

Oops that was supposed to be a replu to Jamiespurs! 8O

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129. Yidfield_General Wrote: | 16.30BST | Oct 9, 2008

REPLY!!! FFS!

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130. jamiespurs Wrote: | 16.35BST | Oct 9, 2008

PeterPissdale has gone quiet, he must be watching countdown! i hope he approves of what Carol Vorderman is wearing! lol

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131. Ricardo Wrote: | 16.36BST | Oct 9, 2008

Yes I agree with you about not singing this song but not for the same reasons. Sol Campbell left the club in a disgraceful manner, so call him disloyal or ungrateful or a scab, but all the other references to being 'black' or 'gay' are just irrelevant and unnecessary "ism's" or phobias which just make the singers sound like idiots and not the person they are trying to discredit.

Please come up with a song that sticks to basics or truths rather than crap like this.

The same goes for the Adebayor song, it makes me cringe that people are still singing shit like this in 2008. Call him an Arsenal f*&@kwit if you want but leave the irrelevant, racist crap out of it !

And all you people who think it's alright to chant shit like this, you are just blissfully ignorant of the effect it has. You are also very lucky it doesn't happen to you.

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132. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 16.37BST | Oct 9, 2008

i know the story about modric has no substance and is lies.

but who would be tempted to sell modric for just say 20 mill?

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133. Kosher Cowboy Wrote: | 16.41BST | Oct 9, 2008

I asked my Friend (who's gay)if he faniced Camp-bell. The answer was a resounding yes. In my book that must make him a bit queer. The racist part is the tree thing, I'm afraid..Being half Jamaican, the thought of a black guy hanging froma tree does invoke scenes of those redneck w@nkers blaming black people for their pathic existence...Anyway I can stand Campbell. He's a C*nt

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134. jamiespurs Wrote: | 16.41BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

i know the story about modric has no substance and is lies.

but who would be tempted to sell modric for just say 20 mill?

NO, NO AND NO. Why sell him before he has had the chance to show what he's got.

Incidentally, that story was run correia dello sport. An italian paper well known for living in the realms of fantasy and making up half truths when there is nothing better to write about. It was then picked up by a weak news site over here and now some journalistic dynamo from the worst paper ever printed has copied the story onto their site.

Never, ever believe anything that comes out of that pathetic excuse of a paper.

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135. billybigspud Wrote: | 16.42BST | Oct 9, 2008

What high jinks they must have round at chez Ridsdale. Lamb cutlets and spotted dick for tea followed by a chapter or two of The Famous Five. Absolutely splendid. ;)

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136. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 16.46BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

i know the story about modric has no substance and is lies.

but who would be tempted to sell modric for just say 20 mill?

NO, NO AND NO. Why sell him before he has had the chance to show what he's got.

Incidentally, that story was run correia dello sport. An italian paper well known for living in the realms of fantasy and making up half truths when there is nothing better to write about. It was then...

it is a terrible story - it says as modric is underperforming - so why would they offer 30 mill

funny though

30 mill for mod - surely levy would have to sell!

then let comolli bring in another gem ;)

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137. jamiespurs Wrote: | 16.46BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to billybigspud:

What high jinks they must have round at chez Ridsdale. Lamb cutlets and spotted dick for tea followed by a chapter or two of The Famous Five. Absolutely splendid. ;)

Charades too! There must be charades!! lol

"Please daddy, please can we play charades??"

Fatknacker, you have me laughing all the way to the bank with that one!

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138. billybigspud Wrote: | 16.47BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

i know the story about modric has no substance and is lies.

but who would be tempted to sell modric for just say 20 mill?

NO, NO AND NO. Why sell him before he has had the chance to show what he's got.

Incidentally, that story was run correia dello sport. An italian paper well known for living in the realms of fantasy and making up half truths when there is nothing better to write about. It was then...

it is a terrible story - it says as modric is underperforming - so why would they offer 30 mill

funny though

30 mill for mod - surely levy would have to sell!

then let comolli bring in another gem ;)

Easy now, you said no more C words even in jest.

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139. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 16.49BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to billybigspud:

Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:

i know the story about modric has no substance and is lies.

but who would be tempted to sell modric for just say 20 mill?

NO, NO AND NO. Why sell him before he has had the chance to show what he's got.

Incidentally, that story was run correia dello sport. An italian paper well known for living in the realms of fantasy and making up half truths when there is nothing better to write about. It was then...

it is a terrible story - it says as modric is underperforming - so why would they offer 30 mill

funny though

30 mill for mod - surely levy would have to sell!

then let comolli bring in another gem ;)

Easy now, you said no more C words even in jest.

sorry :(

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140. peterridsdale Wrote: | 16.49BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

yep. My views were so uninteresting that you felt compelled to respond in length.

We can agree on this. People are free to say and do what they want - if they break the law, then they will pay the consequences.

But a football club is a community. The actions of individual members of our community reflect upon us all. As a member of the community I have a right to stand up and say "enough is enough". I respect the fact that while many of you condemn the Campbell incident, too many of these same people defend their right to hurl as much abuse as they want each week, provided it does not become homophobic or racist. In fact, these people seem to want to deny my right to take my family to a game and not have to be subjected to a constant barrage of F***s and c****s.

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141. jamiespurs Wrote: | 16.49BST | Oct 9, 2008

The C word OR The C word? That is the question.

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142. billybigspud Wrote: | 16.51BST | Oct 9, 2008

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What high jinks they must have round at chez Ridsdale. Lamb cutlets and spotted dick for tea followed by a chapter or two of The Famous Five. Absolutely splendid. ;)

Charades too! There must be charades!! lol

"Please daddy, please can we play charades??"

Fatknacker, you have me laughing all the way to the bank with that one!

That would be ok except his son is probably 35. ;)

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143. Kosher Cowboy Wrote: | 16.52BST | Oct 9, 2008

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Hypocritical nonsense!

Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow...

what a load of wank. Of course our society is racist, along with every other country in the world....But I'll tell you this. After travelling to all corners of the globe, it was great to return to such a tolerant society. Of course we still have issues with some dickheads who beleive the BNP will create a utopia within this great country, but the vast marjority do not see ethincs has a threat. By the way was you born within the sounds of bow bells.

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144. jamiespurs Wrote: | 16.55BST | Oct 9, 2008

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This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

yep. My views were so uninteresting that you felt compelled to respond in length.

We can agree on this. People are free to say and do what they want - if they break the law, then they will pay the consequences.

But a football club is a community. The actions of individual...

Look take your family to a game, and then complain to a steward if someone is swearing too much, see if they care. Because I my friend are way past caring!

I should imagine that you will be seen as a pedantic Percy Peasbody and You'll probably end up with a bit of abuse going your way. Not that I'd condone that but I'd probably guess thats what ruffians do nowadays.

A suggestion, have you tried getting seats in one of the 'Family orientated' areas of WHL? In that case , if there is excessive swearing in that area then thats a poor show and a steward has every right to remove the bloke from the vicinity.

But like i said, I'm now bored of your victorian views on life. We don't live in the past we live in the present. The present isn't all sunshine and smiles. Get over it.

I'm off for the evening my friends, I would go home and continue my views on swearing and violence but I'm off down the pub to get tanked up, cause some trouble, be sick on my shoes and then get in a and bash the missus about ;)

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145. billybigspud Wrote: | 16.57BST | Oct 9, 2008

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The C word OR The C word? That is the question.

I'm not sure you could slide a fag paper between them (sorry wayne).
PS Am i allowed to say fag paper anymore?. ;)

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146. Yidfield_General Wrote: | 16.58BST | Oct 9, 2008

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I asked my Friend (who's gay)if he faniced Camp-bell. The answer was a resounding yes. In my book that must make him a bit queer. The racist part is the tree thing, I'm afraid..Being half Jamaican, the thought of a black guy hanging froma tree does invoke scenes of those redneck w@nkers blaming...

Seriously man. You can link hanging from a tree with Rednecks hanging blacks. Well i'm half Jamaican and half Beliezian and my immediate take on that line in the song was that Judas hung himself from a tree because of his mental state after betraying Jesus! Maybe that is because of my Catholic upbringing or maybe because I do not believe that everyone is racist and that everything that everyone says has a racist intention!

I guess i'm lucky to be a bit of a sticks and stones type of bloke. Go on say your worst, i've heard it all, never mind the colour mate thick skinned me. It pays to be thick skinned if you're a Spurs fan!!!

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147. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 17.00BST | Oct 9, 2008

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The C word OR The C word? That is the question.

I'm not sure you could slide a fag paper between them (sorry wayne).
PS Am i allowed to say fag paper anymore?. ;)

one comolli dig a day, thats the limit ;)

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148. peterridsdale Wrote: | 17.00BST | Oct 9, 2008

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What high jinks they must have round at chez Ridsdale. Lamb cutlets and spotted dick for tea followed by a chapter or two of The Famous Five. Absolutely splendid. ;)

Charades too! There must be charades!! lol

"Please daddy, please can we play charades??"

Fatknacker, you have me laughing all the way to the bank with that one!

That would be ok except his son is probably 35. ;)

God bless you both. That type of banter is both witty and entertaining. You could even throw in a swear word and I would still laugh. Given such a high level of wit and sophistication, why the need to turn into neanderthal man every Saturday afternoon?

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149. billybigspud Wrote: | 17.00BST | Oct 9, 2008

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Reply to peterridsdale:
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Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

yep. My views were so uninteresting that you felt compelled to respond in length.

We can agree on this. People are free to say and do what they want - if they break the law, then they will pay the consequences.

But a football club is a community. The actions of individual...

Look take your family to a game, and then complain to a steward if someone is swearing too much, see if they care. Because I my friend are way past caring!

I should imagine that you will be seen as a pedantic Percy Peasbody and You'll probably end up with a bit of abuse going your...

Aaaah another fine night out in the former city of culture :D

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150. peterridsdale Wrote: | 17.03BST | Oct 9, 2008

an elegant argument. Good luck with your PHD.

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151. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 17.03BST | Oct 9, 2008

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What high jinks they must have round at chez Ridsdale. Lamb cutlets and spotted dick for tea followed by a chapter or two of The Famous Five. Absolutely splendid. ;)

Charades too! There must be charades!! lol

"Please daddy, please can we play charades??"

Fatknacker, you have me laughing all the way to the bank with that one!

That would be ok except his son is probably 35. ;)

God bless you both. That type of banter is both witty and entertaining. You could even throw in a swear word and I would still laugh. Given such a high level of wit and sophistication, why the need to turn into neanderthal man every Saturday afternoon?

because football is a passionate game, were your blood boils, your heart takes over - you do not know what your saying - all that you know is that your love for this great club is doing the talking.

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152. peterridsdale Wrote: | 17.05BST | Oct 9, 2008

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Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

yep. My views were so uninteresting that you felt compelled to respond in length.

We can agree on this. People are free to say and do what they want - if they break the law, then they will pay the consequences.

But a football club is a community. The actions of individual...

Look take your family to a game, and then complain to a steward if someone is swearing too much, see if they care. Because I my friend are way past caring!

I should imagine that you will be seen as a pedantic Percy Peasbody and You'll probably end up with a bit of abuse going your...

your wife hit the jackpot when she found you.

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153. billybigspud Wrote: | 17.07BST | Oct 9, 2008

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I asked my Friend (who's gay)if he faniced Camp-bell. The answer was a resounding yes. In my book that must make him a bit queer. The racist part is the tree thing, I'm afraid..Being half Jamaican, the thought of a black guy hanging froma tree does invoke scenes of those redneck w@nkers blaming...

Seriously man. You can link hanging from a tree with Rednecks hanging blacks. Well i'm half Jamaican and half Beliezian and my immediate take on that line in the song was that Judas hung himself from a tree because of his mental state after betraying Jesus! Maybe that is because of my Catholic...

Don't forget mate, you know the reasoning behind the song. If you didn't know the context then you might think differently.

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154. peterridsdale Wrote: | 17.07BST | Oct 9, 2008

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What high jinks they must have round at chez Ridsdale. Lamb cutlets and spotted dick for tea followed by a chapter or two of The Famous Five. Absolutely splendid. ;)

Charades too! There must be charades!! lol

"Please daddy, please can we play charades??"

Fatknacker, you have me laughing all the way to the bank with that one!

That would be ok except his son is probably 35. ;)

God bless you both. That type of banter is both witty and entertaining. You could even throw in a swear word and I would still laugh. Given such a high level of wit and sophistication, why the need to turn into neanderthal man every Saturday afternoon?

because football is a passionate game, were your blood boils, your heart takes over - you do not know what your saying - all that you know is that your love for this great club is doing the talking.

I believe your friends down at Portsmouth knew exactly what they were saying. The chant was many things, but impromptu it was not.

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155. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 17.08BST | Oct 9, 2008

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Reply to billybigspud:

What high jinks they must have round at chez Ridsdale. Lamb cutlets and spotted dick for tea followed by a chapter or two of The Famous Five. Absolutely splendid. ;)

Charades too! There must be charades!! lol

"Please daddy, please can we play charades??"

Fatknacker, you have me laughing all the way to the bank with that one!

That would be ok except his son is probably 35. ;)

God bless you both. That type of banter is both witty and entertaining. You could even throw in a swear word and I would still laugh. Given such a high level of wit and sophistication, why the need to turn into neanderthal man every Saturday afternoon?

because football is a passionate game, were your blood boils, your heart takes over - you do not know what your saying - all that you know is that your love for this great club is doing the talking.

I believe your friends down at Portsmouth knew exactly what they were saying. The chant was many things, but impromptu it was not.

im only speaking as myself. i can not control what other people say.

if im watching a match - my passion for spurs does the talking.

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156. The Cockney Wrote: | 17.10BST | Oct 9, 2008

To Nunchucks and Fatnacker,

Firstly I'm a Jew and not a Zionist. There needs to be a distinction as Zionism is a political ideology and being a Jew is a way of life.

The very fact you guys are not willing to debate renders our online conversation pointless however in order to give this subject some closure and clarify my argument for bringing the Israel factor into this equation was that, there are far worse things which are being perpetuated around the world and here in this country by the powers that be for us to lay blame on something like football chanting as somehow a gauge of our moral standing in society.

I have noticed that this incident is being used by some in order to apply pressure and mould the behaviour of supporters at a football game whilst much more serious crimes against humanity are being committed by these same powers who make up the so called rules.

My point is, that this whole system is corrupt enough and that's where we should be looking to make wholesale changes rather than using the common man's arena to play the moral high ground.

I don't think the average football fan needs to be ostracised because of rival chanting or be told how to think, what to say and what not to say.

Rather those that have become untouchable because of power gained through their greed, exploitation and actions towards other human beings have gone unaccounted for, for years!

It's insulting to any intelligent human being whilst there are huge crimes being committed we are looking to lay societies blame on things like football chants, rap songs and computer games!

It's all the same bull, it's a form of thought control whereby a so called consensus is regurgitated by the media whores and it acts like some kind of moral standard where we police one another whilst no one is looking at the root of the real problems in society.

I hope you now understand my point of view.

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157. Nunchucks Wrote: | 17.11BST | Oct 9, 2008

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Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

yep. My views were so uninteresting that you felt compelled to respond in length.

We can agree on this. People are free to say and do what they want - if they break the law, then they will pay the consequences.

But a football club is a community. The actions of individual...

Look take your family to a game, and then complain to a steward if someone is swearing too much, see if they care. Because I my friend are way past caring!

I should imagine that you will be seen as a pedantic Percy Peasbody and You'll probably end up with a bit of abuse going your...

I think it's pretty natural for a guy to take his kids to a game and be concerned about the amount of cussing they're being subjected to.

Give the guy a break. It's not like you have extensive first hand experience of the ground, what with you being exiled in Dublin and all...

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158. billybigspud Wrote: | 17.11BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to peterridsdale:

Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

yep. My views were so uninteresting that you felt compelled to respond in length.

We can agree on this. People are free to say and do what they want - if they break the law, then they will pay the consequences.

But a football club is a community. The actions of individual...

Look take your family to a game, and then complain to a steward if someone is swearing too much, see if they care. Because I my friend are way past caring!

I should imagine that you will be seen as a pedantic Percy Peasbody and You'll probably end up with a bit of abuse going your...

your wife hit the jackpot when she found you.

ZOOOOOOOOOOM. As well as the 21st century, irony and sarcasm seem to have passed you by. Might i suggest you take the next charabanc back to Tunbridge Wells, since it's clesrly way past your epoch.

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159. Yidfield_General Wrote: | 17.13BST | Oct 9, 2008

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I asked my Friend (who's gay)if he faniced Camp-bell. The answer was a resounding yes. In my book that must make him a bit queer. The racist part is the tree thing, I'm afraid..Being half Jamaican, the thought of a black guy hanging froma tree does invoke scenes of those redneck w@nkers blaming...

Seriously man. You can link hanging from a tree with Rednecks hanging blacks. Well i'm half Jamaican and half Beliezian and my immediate take on that line in the song was that Judas hung himself from a tree because of his mental state after betraying Jesus! Maybe that is because of my Catholic...

Don't forget mate, you know the reasoning behind the song. If you didn't know the context then you might think differently.

Then it's sad that some people naturally think the worst. I was talking to one of my colleagues a few days ago and he was given a tongue lashing by one of his customers because he used the saying "you pay peanuts, you get monkeys" in front of a black worker who took offence. I mean what the fuck is that all about? Even when he explained the saying he was still given the frosty stare!! Now monkey is a racist word if used in the presence of an ethic person. What a load of bollocks! the person who complained and caused a fuss needs a swift kick in the knackers and told to fuck right off ...... make my blood boil!

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160. Kosher Cowboy Wrote: | 17.22BST | Oct 9, 2008

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I asked my Friend (who's gay)if he faniced Camp-bell. The answer was a resounding yes. In my book that must make him a bit queer. The racist part is the tree thing, I'm afraid..Being half Jamaican, the thought of a black guy hanging froma tree does invoke scenes of those redneck w@nkers blaming...

Seriously man. You can link hanging from a tree with Rednecks hanging blacks. Well i'm half Jamaican and half Beliezian and my immediate take on that line in the song was that Judas hung himself from a tree because of his mental state after betraying Jesus! Maybe that is because of my Catholic...

Sorry but not being Catholic, I sort of missed the Judas part...Hence the problem.Not all of us are catholic, or Christian come to think of it

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161. peterridsdale Wrote: | 17.23BST | Oct 9, 2008

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I asked my Friend (who's gay)if he faniced Camp-bell. The answer was a resounding yes. In my book that must make him a bit queer. The racist part is the tree thing, I'm afraid..Being half Jamaican, the thought of a black guy hanging froma tree does invoke scenes of those redneck w@nkers blaming...

Seriously man. You can link hanging from a tree with Rednecks hanging blacks. Well i'm half Jamaican and half Beliezian and my immediate take on that line in the song was that Judas hung himself from a tree because of his mental state after betraying Jesus! Maybe that is because of my Catholic...

Don't forget mate, you know the reasoning behind the song. If you didn't know the context then you might think differently.

Then it's sad that some people naturally think the worst. I was talking to one of my colleagues a few days ago and he was given a tongue lashing by one of his customers because he used the saying "you pay peanuts, you get monkeys" in front of a black worker who took offence. I mean what the fuck is...

there you go again. Instead of taking time to consider if the phrase could be offensive you attack the guy for being offended. Take responsibility for your actions.

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162. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 17.26BST | Oct 9, 2008

people interpret things in different the only person that knows what is meant is the person that said it.

i am not racist, and if i had said you pay peanuts, you get monkeys"

i would not care what any1 else thought,


i would not apologise, as i have done nothing wrong.

i am not a racist, my consencience (spelling) is clear

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163. peterridsdale Wrote: | 17.27BST | Oct 9, 2008

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Reply to jamiespurs:
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Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

yep. My views were so uninteresting that you felt compelled to respond in length.

We can agree on this. People are free to say and do what they want - if they break the law, then they will pay the consequences.

But a football club is a community. The actions of individual...

Look take your family to a game, and then complain to a steward if someone is swearing too much, see if they care. Because I my friend are way past caring!

I should imagine that you will be seen as a pedantic Percy Peasbody and You'll probably end up with a bit of abuse going your...

I think it's pretty natural for a guy to take his kids to a game and be concerned about the amount of cussing they're being subjected to.

Give the guy a break. It's not like you have extensive first hand experience of the ground, what with you being exiled in Dublin and all...

some support at last. I am being painted as a bible bashing stockbroker from Tunbridge Wells, which I take great offence at, as I am merely a bible bashing stockbroker from Haywards Heath.

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164. munso Wrote: | 17.32BST | Oct 9, 2008

roll on defeat to stoke, at least this place will be a bit more cheery! ;)

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165. billybigspud Wrote: | 17.32BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to peterridsdale:

Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

yep. My views were so uninteresting that you felt compelled to respond in length.

We can agree on this. People are free to say and do what they want - if they break the law, then they will pay the consequences.

But a football club is a community. The actions of individual...

Look take your family to a game, and then complain to a steward if someone is swearing too much, see if they care. Because I my friend are way past caring!

I should imagine that you will be seen as a pedantic Percy Peasbody and You'll probably end up with a bit of abuse going your...

I think it's pretty natural for a guy to take his kids to a game and be concerned about the amount of cussing they're being subjected to.

Give the guy a break. It's not like you have extensive first hand experience of the ground, what with you being exiled in Dublin and all...

some support at last. I am being painted as a bible bashing stockbroker from Tunbridge Wells, which I take great offence at, as I am merely a bible bashing stockbroker from Haywards Heath.

Nobody mentioned stockbroker as we had enough sticks to beat you with, but as i always say, never look a gift horse.......
About this short selling of financial stocks............. ;)

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166. billybigspud Wrote: | 17.34BST | Oct 9, 2008

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Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to jamiespurs:

This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

yep. My views were so uninteresting that you felt compelled to respond in length.

We can agree on this. People are free to say and do what they want - if they break the law, then they will pay the consequences.

But a football club is a community. The actions of individual...

Look take your family to a game, and then complain to a steward if someone is swearing too much, see if they care. Because I my friend are way past caring!

I should imagine that you will be seen as a pedantic Percy Peasbody and You'll probably end up with a bit of abuse going your...

I think it's pretty natural for a guy to take his kids to a game and be concerned about the amount of cussing they're being subjected to.

Give the guy a break. It's not like you have extensive first hand experience of the ground, what with you being exiled in Dublin and all...

Astride his sturdy white steed (Steeeeeeeeeeed), armour glinting in the sunlight, it's Nunchucks to the rescue. (cue William Tell overture).

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167. peterridsdale Wrote: | 17.44BST | Oct 9, 2008

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why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

yep. My views were so uninteresting that you felt compelled to respond in length.

We can agree on this. People are free to say and do what they want - if they break the law, then they will pay the consequences.

But a football club is a community. The actions of individual...

Look take your family to a game, and then complain to a steward if someone is swearing too much, see if they care. Because I my friend are way past caring!

I should imagine that you will be seen as a pedantic Percy Peasbody and You'll probably end up with a bit of abuse going your...

I think it's pretty natural for a guy to take his kids to a game and be concerned about the amount of cussing they're being subjected to.

Give the guy a break. It's not like you have extensive first hand experience of the ground, what with you being exiled in Dublin and all...

some support at last. I am being painted as a bible bashing stockbroker from Tunbridge Wells, which I take great offence at, as I am merely a bible bashing stockbroker from Haywards Heath.

Nobody mentioned stockbroker as we had enough sticks to beat you with, but as i always say, never look a gift horse.......
About this short selling of financial stocks............. ;)

ZOOOOOOOOOOM. As well as the 21st century, irony and sarcasm seem to have passed you by. Might I suggest you take the next charabanc back to Milton Keynes, since it's clesrly way past your epoch.

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168. Nunchucks Wrote: | 17.56BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to The Cockney:

To Nunchucks and Fatnacker,

Firstly I'm a Jew and not a Zionist. There needs to be a distinction as Zionism is a political ideology and being a Jew is a way of life.

The very fact you guys are not willing to debate renders our online conversation pointless however in order...

Cockney,

It simply will not wash when I open the floor to you to qualify your statements by asking you to explain what you mean by Spurs Supports Terrorist Regimes, by then completely ignoring this query and responding "well, I see you guys are not willing to debate".

I asked you a question. I'm literally agog to read what you have to say.

Additionally, I appreciate your mewling about what is 'insulting to any intelligent human being'. I can't speak for any other intelligent human beings out there, but what is insulting to me is (a) being daubed as a racist by you completely apropos of nothing, and (b) being told that somehow I'm contributing to a terrorist faction without qualification.

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169. 2dare is to do Wrote: | 18.03BST | Oct 9, 2008

Ive just read a few of the comments, people are still saying its a bit homophobic and racist.. please point these parts of the song out to me as i cant bloody see it..

maybe we should sing
,Spurs spurs...where ever you may be, until are lot start turning up on a sat afternoon


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170. billybigspud Wrote: | 18.07BST | Oct 9, 2008

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Reply to peterridsdale:
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That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

yep. My views were so uninteresting that you felt compelled to respond in length.

We can agree on this. People are free to say and do what they want - if they break the law, then they will pay the consequences.

But a football club is a community. The actions of individual...

Look take your family to a game, and then complain to a steward if someone is swearing too much, see if they care. Because I my friend are way past caring!

I should imagine that you will be seen as a pedantic Percy Peasbody and You'll probably end up with a bit of abuse going your...

I think it's pretty natural for a guy to take his kids to a game and be concerned about the amount of cussing they're being subjected to.

Give the guy a break. It's not like you have extensive first hand experience of the ground, what with you being exiled in Dublin and all...

some support at last. I am being painted as a bible bashing stockbroker from Tunbridge Wells, which I take great offence at, as I am merely a bible bashing stockbroker from Haywards Heath.

Nobody mentioned stockbroker as we had enough sticks to beat you with, but as i always say, never look a gift horse.......
About this short selling of financial stocks............. ;)

ZOOOOOOOOOOM. As well as the 21st century, irony and sarcasm seem to have passed you by. Might I suggest you take the next charabanc back to Milton Keynes, since it's clesrly way past your epoch.

How dare you sir, to steal my works and not even correct the spelling is simply unforgiveable. Clearly you also have a fondness for plagiarism of the works of Lord Gnome.
Milton Keynes tut tut, I reside very comfortably here in elegant surroundings at Kier Hardy Towers, Canning Town.

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171. billybigspud Wrote: | 18.11BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Nunchucks:

Reply to The Cockney:

To Nunchucks and Fatnacker,

Firstly I'm a Jew and not a Zionist. There needs to be a distinction as Zionism is a political ideology and being a Jew is a way of life.

The very fact you guys are not willing to debate renders our online conversation pointless however in order...

Cockney,

It simply will not wash when I open the floor to you to qualify your statements by asking you to explain what you mean by Spurs Supports Terrorist Regimes, by then completely ignoring this query and responding "well, I see you guys are not willing to debate".

I...

Apologies NC just realised your rescue job was tic, as you know fool well that Jamie is in exile in Nether Wallop.
PS. Why are you entertaining this pseudo?.

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172. Yidfield_General Wrote: | 18.29BST | Oct 9, 2008

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Reply to Kosher Cowboy:

I asked my Friend (who's gay)if he faniced Camp-bell. The answer was a resounding yes. In my book that must make him a bit queer. The racist part is the tree thing, I'm afraid..Being half Jamaican, the thought of a black guy hanging froma tree does invoke scenes of those redneck w@nkers blaming...

Seriously man. You can link hanging from a tree with Rednecks hanging blacks. Well i'm half Jamaican and half Beliezian and my immediate take on that line in the song was that Judas hung himself from a tree because of his mental state after betraying Jesus! Maybe that is because of my Catholic...

Don't forget mate, you know the reasoning behind the song. If you didn't know the context then you might think differently.

Then it's sad that some people naturally think the worst. I was talking to one of my colleagues a few days ago and he was given a tongue lashing by one of his customers because he used the saying "you pay peanuts, you get monkeys" in front of a black worker who took offence. I mean what the fuck is...

there you go again. Instead of taking time to consider if the phrase could be offensive you attack the guy for being offended. Take responsibility for your actions.

It's a shame because I admire your stance and have no wish to try to berate you but you have got to be taking the piss now! You are basically saying that I should take responsibility for causing offence whether intentional or not! I am saying that you need to take responsibility for being offended when it was not my intention to offend. I'm sure you get my point. Some people need to toughen up and not assume that everything anyone says is intended to cause offence because if we all thought like that we would be living in a PC nightmare ............ wait a minute!!!!

That reminds me of a quote that I once read and I cannot remember who it's from but it's along the lines of .....it is a greater offence to take offence than cause offence. To cause offence can be accidental while to take offence is a concious decision.

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173. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 18.41BST | Oct 9, 2008

Love Thy Neighbour. Now that WAS a program.

And there's my point. You can, in the privacy of your own home switch things off.

Mr Risdale has made some very valid points.

My view is that the whole concept of liberty is that everyone gets as much as they could possibly want.

Right up until the point whereby they start impinging on other people's.


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174. Yidfield_General Wrote: | 18.52BST | Oct 9, 2008

I'm surprised some of these twits haven't yet taken the opportunity to use the "Sol, Sol wherever you may be" line as having a racist intention. I mean he was right there on the pitch so surely the fans were implying that all the black players look the same!!!!

Really gets my back up ...... my kids will not rise to racism or this take offence at everything culture. Fact!

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175. paulhasissues Wrote: | 19.21BST | Oct 9, 2008

Harry this is nice peice of writing, did the paperboy deliver the times instead of the current bun today?

The Sol thing in my mind is like you wife going to live with you pikey brother who you couldn't stand anyway.

You just don't forgive that kind of betrail (bad spelling). If someone had done that to me i think that i wouldn't forgive them no matter the time that had passed.

Sol has brough this on him self.

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176. peterridsdale Wrote: | 19.24BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Yidfield_General:

Reply to peterridsdale:
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Reply to Yidfield_General:
Reply to Kosher Cowboy:

I asked my Friend (who's gay)if he faniced Camp-bell. The answer was a resounding yes. In my book that must make him a bit queer. The racist part is the tree thing, I'm afraid..Being half Jamaican, the thought of a black guy hanging froma tree does invoke scenes of those redneck w@nkers blaming...

Seriously man. You can link hanging from a tree with Rednecks hanging blacks. Well i'm half Jamaican and half Beliezian and my immediate take on that line in the song was that Judas hung himself from a tree because of his mental state after betraying Jesus! Maybe that is because of my Catholic...

Don't forget mate, you know the reasoning behind the song. If you didn't know the context then you might think differently.

Then it's sad that some people naturally think the worst. I was talking to one of my colleagues a few days ago and he was given a tongue lashing by one of his customers because he used the saying "you pay peanuts, you get monkeys" in front of a black worker who took offence. I mean what the fuck is...

there you go again. Instead of taking time to consider if the phrase could be offensive you attack the guy for being offended. Take responsibility for your actions.

It's a shame because I admire your stance and have no wish to try to berate you but you have got to be taking the piss now! You are basically saying that I should take responsibility for causing offence whether intentional or not! I am saying that you need to take responsibility for being offended...

Sir - I was a trifle unfair in picking on your example as I can see both sides to your particular argument. However, I was really continuing a theme that was present throughout the discussion today. Many of our fellow citizens were defending their right of free speech irrespective of the fact this may cause offence. My view is that everyone can say what they like, when they like, to whom they like provided they at take the time to consider the consequences of their actions.

Some people on this board vigorously defend their right to speak as they please, while at the same time denying others the right to enjoy a game of football without having to put up with a constant stream of profanities.

The consequences of their actions is they have embarrassed our Spurs community and I for one, am fed up with it.

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177. peterridsdale Wrote: | 19.29BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to 2dare is to do:

Ive just read a few of the comments, people are still saying its a bit homophobic and racist.. please point these parts of the song out to me as i cant bloody see it..

maybe we should sing
,Spurs spurs...where ever you may be, until are lot start turning up on a sat afternoon...

the chant was vile and abusive and brought shame on our club. When you sink to that level of abuse, a technical analysis of what category of bigotry it falls into is an exercise in futility.

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178. Nunchucks Wrote: | 19.48BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to billybigspud:

Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to The Cockney:

To Nunchucks and Fatnacker,

Firstly I'm a Jew and not a Zionist. There needs to be a distinction as Zionism is a political ideology and being a Jew is a way of life.

The very fact you guys are not willing to debate renders our online conversation pointless however in order...

Cockney,

It simply will not wash when I open the floor to you to qualify your statements by asking you to explain what you mean by Spurs Supports Terrorist Regimes, by then completely ignoring this query and responding "well, I see you guys are not willing to debate".

I...

Apologies NC just realised your rescue job was tic, as you know fool well that Jamie is in exile in Nether Wallop.
PS. Why are you entertaining this pseudo?.

I likes the cut of his jib.

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179. Nunchucks Wrote: | 19.53BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to peterridsdale:

Reply to 2dare is to do:

Ive just read a few of the comments, people are still saying its a bit homophobic and racist.. please point these parts of the song out to me as i cant bloody see it..

maybe we should sing
,Spurs spurs...where ever you may be, until are lot start turning up on a sat afternoon...

the chant was vile and abusive and brought shame on our club. When you sink to that level of abuse, a technical analysis of what category of bigotry it falls into is an exercise in futility.

Go on, my son!

Dear, oh dear, Harry. You've really gawn and done it this time. The cat, as they say, is well and truly amongst the pigeons. I don't recall being this riveted to the internet since heavyhangers.com had a 24 hour free pass.

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180. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 20.15BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to Nunchucks:

Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to 2dare is to do:

Ive just read a few of the comments, people are still saying its a bit homophobic and racist.. please point these parts of the song out to me as i cant bloody see it..

maybe we should sing
,Spurs spurs...where ever you may be, until are lot start turning up on a sat afternoon...

the chant was vile and abusive and brought shame on our club. When you sink to that level of abuse, a technical analysis of what category of bigotry it falls into is an exercise in futility.

Go on, my son!

Dear, oh dear, Harry. You've really gawn and done it this time. The cat, as they say, is well and truly amongst the pigeons. I don't recall being this riveted to the internet since heavyhangers.com had a 24 hour free pass.

=D

If I knew it was going to work out like this I would have set up little table selling light refreshments with exaggerated margins...

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181. prakash daswani Wrote: | 21.03BST | Oct 9, 2008

I'm with Chirpy at comment no 3. Sure we were all angry at how Sol's long drawn-out departure de-stabilized the team for over a year waiting for a new contract to be signed which it never was (at least Berbs wasn't Club skipper).

But that was then and things have moved on and so should we. The lyrics of the guilty song are at best distasteful and at worst, well let's just say puerile and pathetic and leave it at that. Let's try instead to look forward, rather than back - there are young kids among our number who already love the Club as I did when I first started watching them. They want to carry the glory flag into the future so lets focus their sights on the Club future triumphs, rather than on a petty picking over of old and best forgotten wounds.

And I'm with HH on how thin the repertoire of our chants now are. Fan sections around the country used be, and some still are, so smarat and inventive and humorous in their compositions. They'd pick up an existing rousing anthem (like Jerusalem, or Amazing Grace, or you'll never walk alone) and turn its words into their own. How brilliant it would be if there were some lyricists out there who could compose something that would bring out the goosebumps and add this to our currently limited choice, between a poor remix of a dreary Rod Stewart single or the tired copy of XYZ and his blue and white army. Sorry I forgot the electrifiying foot stamping rap yidsXXXXyidsXXXX. That makes all of 3, across 90 minutes? Come on guys, how about some new uplifting songs, if only to cheer up the players during these dark times?

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182. Nick_The_Greek Wrote: | 21.48BST | Oct 9, 2008

It`s all very well for all these journalists saying Campbell should be protected from Spurs fans ,but who protected Spurs from that liar Campbell ?

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183. billybigspud Wrote: | 21.51BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to paulhasissues:

Harry this is nice peice of writing, did the paperboy deliver the times instead of the current bun today?

The Sol thing in my mind is like you wife going to live with you pikey brother who you couldn't stand anyway.

You just don't forgive that kind of betrail (bad...

I've just been shopping at Tesco with the mrs and right now I'd give my left bollock and all i own for a pikey brother. Forgiveness guaranteed instantly. Blood brother will do, small cut to right palm and she's yours. :\ :\

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184. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 22.07BST | Oct 9, 2008

Reply to billybigspud:

Reply to paulhasissues:

Harry this is nice peice of writing, did the paperboy deliver the times instead of the current bun today?

The Sol thing in my mind is like you wife going to live with you pikey brother who you couldn't stand anyway.

You just don't forgive that kind of betrail (bad...

I've just been shopping at Tesco with the mrs and right now I'd give my left bollock and all i own for a pikey brother. Forgiveness guaranteed instantly. Blood brother will do, small cut to right palm and she's yours. :\ :\

=D =D =D

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185. BruceCastle Wrote: | 22.24BST | Oct 9, 2008

Pikey bruv couldn't hack it either and took a EuroStar to clear his head.

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186. BruceCastle Wrote: | 23.29BST | Oct 9, 2008

I see another unsightly stain has been removed. Do you do hems?

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187. BruceCastle Wrote: | 23.37BST | Oct 9, 2008

I once new a maiden who mastered the Hong Kong finish.

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188. billybigspud Wrote: | 23.56BST | Oct 9, 2008

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I once new a maiden who mastered the Hong Kong finish.

Evening BC,
Are you going to enlighten us on the unsightly stain, hems and the Hong Kong finish?.

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189. BruceCastle Wrote: | 00.01BST | Oct 10, 2008

Unsightly stain: some wanker who came on spouting a load of shite and harry put spot remover on him.

Hems: a tidy finish at the shoe end of your trouser

Hong King Finish: double meaning. a style of hem and a happy ending

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190. billybigspud Wrote: | 00.06BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to BruceCastle:

Unsightly stain: some wanker who came on spouting a load of shite and harry put spot remover on him.

Hems: a tidy finish at the shoe end of your trouser

Hong King Finish: double meaning. a style of hem and a happy ending

Class =D =D

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191. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 00.19BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to BruceCastle:

I see another unsightly stain has been removed. Do you do hems?

:P HH Ninja Thought Police Strike!

You can't just post Ridsdale your a cunt and run off like that. It's just not cricket.

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192. billybigspud Wrote: | 00.26BST | Oct 10, 2008

Harry,
Would that still count if he was the real Peter Ridsdale, because I can assure you that he is a cunt ;)

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193. BruceCastle Wrote: | 00.35BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to billybigspud:

Harry,
Would that still count if he was the real Peter Ridsdale, because I can assure you that he is a cunt ;)

its not cricket yet it invites the wrath of the Duke of Edinburgh's bat.

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194. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 00.43BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to billybigspud:

Harry,
Would that still count if he was the real Peter Ridsdale, because I can assure you that he is a cunt ;)

=D

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195. billybigspud Wrote: | 00.58BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to BruceCastle:

Reply to billybigspud:

Harry,
Would that still count if he was the real Peter Ridsdale, because I can assure you that he is a cunt ;)

its not cricket yet it invites the wrath of the Duke of Edinburgh's bat.

I've been hoist by my own petard chaps. For comic effect i put Rupert as my first name when joining this site. Now the buggers are sending me emails to dear Rupert. There's only so much a man can take. :\ :\ :D

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196. BruceCastle Wrote: | 01.15BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to billybigspud:

Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to billybigspud:

Harry,
Would that still count if he was the real Peter Ridsdale, because I can assure you that he is a cunt ;)

its not cricket yet it invites the wrath of the Duke of Edinburgh's bat.

I've been hoist by my own petard chaps. For comic effect i put Rupert as my first name when joining this site. Now the buggers are sending me emails to dear Rupert. There's only so much a man can take. :\ :\ :D

every one knows your name and all of your games...Ruuuupert!

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197. billybigspud Wrote: | 01.26BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to BruceCastle:

Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to BruceCastle:
Reply to billybigspud:

Harry,
Would that still count if he was the real Peter Ridsdale, because I can assure you that he is a cunt ;)

its not cricket yet it invites the wrath of the Duke of Edinburgh's bat.

I've been hoist by my own petard chaps. For comic effect i put Rupert as my first name when joining this site. Now the buggers are sending me emails to dear Rupert. There's only so much a man can take. :\ :\ :D

every one knows your name and all of your games...Ruuuupert!

Brucy, you're so sharp you'll cut ya good self =D =D =D
ps. that f*cking song is in my head now

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198. sol campbell Wrote: | 06.42BST | Oct 10, 2008

When i left you bunch of deluded losers was the best thing i ever done! I went on to win 2 league titles (1 at shite harte) and 3 f.a cups. now get over it !

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199. MysteriousStranger Wrote: | 08.37BST | Oct 10, 2008

For the "song" itself - the "racist" part is down to interpretation. They used to hang black people from trees y'know. Them. The rednecks. If you like to put that spin on it. And some people, do. However, he is a traitor, right? Judas Iscariot was a traitor. One who betrayed his master (Jesus), leaving him in the sh_te for a bribe, i.e. the lure of money. Funny, I'm sure money had nothing to do with Sol Campbell "betraying" his master (Spurs), not to mention the religious overtones of football (not the "Yiddish" associations of Spurs, but a general aspect of what it is to be a football supporter). Put it this way, I consider supporting a club/faction the closest thing I'd get to organised religion, so I can see the direct comparative. And the "homophobic" part is down to interpretation/association. i.e. Both Sol Campbell has been associated (through vicious rumour or perhaps some truth but I care not either way) with "being gay". The "Overmars" rumour etc. So Judas c~nt with HIV, well HIV - ultimately AIDS - well, it's an exclusively gay disease right? And since Sol is gay... 8O he must have the "gay disease". You get where I'm going with this. Please detect the sarcasm dripping from the gay referencing before responding that I'm the ignorant one! Besides, wasn't Sol seeing some older bird for years? I always thought she might have been "cover", or he swung both ways (not from a tree, you understand) 8O
The point is, these rumours or truths are what point anyone to the HIV part being a reference to an already pre-existing long standing suggestion that Sol likes c@ck.
What I've done there is literally dissect the song. The racist and homophobic aspects of this song (by way of fact-contained in the song) are non-existent. It's petty PC pandering and ignorance that have twisted it into something other than what it actually is. It is just a tale about a traitor, with a nasty, tasteless ending (the HIV bit - which technically should not be viewed homophobic).

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200. Blanchflower Wrote: | 08.45BST | Oct 10, 2008

We aint Millwall, we aint Chelsea headhunters, I want my kids to go to a game and enjoy it, want them to want to go back. I have no sympathy with Sol Cambell, but my kids enjoyment is more important than wasted words on that parasite.

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201. MysteriousStranger Wrote: | 08.50BST | Oct 10, 2008

I do agree wholeheartedly that there is no need for this song in the game, it's been over seven years now. We should have gotten over that fact he left, even if he is a "Judas".

Harry's suggestions for new original chants should make up for a new thread/topic?

And, instead of slagging off Dawson etc. for being "shite", let's encourage our players.

Try singing "Dawson the Enforcer, Dawson the Enforcer, tra la la la, tra la la la!" when he makes a crucial/or crunching tackle.

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202. jamiespurs Wrote: | 08.53BST | Oct 10, 2008

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This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

yep. My views were so uninteresting that you felt compelled to respond in length.

We can agree on this. People are free to say and do what they want - if they break the law, then they will pay the consequences.

But a football club is a community. The actions of individual...

Look take your family to a game, and then complain to a steward if someone is swearing too much, see if they care. Because I my friend are way past caring!

I should imagine that you will be seen as a pedantic Percy Peasbody and You'll probably end up with a bit of abuse going your...

I think it's pretty natural for a guy to take his kids to a game and be concerned about the amount of cussing they're being subjected to.

Give the guy a break. It's not like you have extensive first hand experience of the ground, what with you being exiled in Dublin and all...

Nunchucks,

I refuse to be reeled in by your baiting regarding my location in these fair isles.

However, I do take exception to my frequention of WHL. I used to go an awful lot when I lived down south. Unfortunately due to work I have moved a long long way away from my beloved WHL and for the past 7months I have had to watch my club from afar. I have experienced live football matches at every level, from the ryman south to the premier league, blimey I've even been to fiorentina vs vicenza! My point to Pissdale was that you cannot simply stop people from doing something unless its proven to be excessively offensive or criminally unjust.

Risdale as Fatknacker commented, should head back to Milton Keynes and the pleasant Trueman Show existance he so obviously enjoys. He needs to except that in the real world that people do swear, crime gets committed and not everyone is permagrinned and pleasant.

And as for 'The Cockney' I think the Met Police's anti-terrorism squad should be waking you up at some point in the near future!

HH, as has been said earlier, this one has put many a cat amongst the plentiful pigeon population, I salute you.

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203. jamiespurs Wrote: | 08.55BST | Oct 10, 2008

'Dawson the enforcer' =D

IF ONLY

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204. Poshspur Wrote: | 09.01BST | Oct 10, 2008

Morning Spurs.
So Juventus according to that reliable source The Daily 'I've got no opinions on anything, can you tell me how I should be over reacting in a right wing kind of way' Mail, will "test Spurs resolve"? with a £30 mil bid for Modders in Jan.
Discuss....
Also do you now the way to San Jose, we've been twinned with them...joy.
I appreciate this is yesterday's news, but I've been busy!

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205. jamiespurs Wrote: | 09.06BST | Oct 10, 2008

POSHSPUR

NEVER going to happen in a million years! What is the point in signing one of the most talented young midfielders in the world if we are going to ship him out after 6 months?? IMO its the Daily Mail trying to undermine Spurs at every opportunity.

Why do people bother reading anything they print?

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206. JimboTheYid Wrote: | 09.11BST | Oct 10, 2008

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Southern trees, bear a strange fruit,
blood on the leaves, blood at the root,
black bodies swinging in the southern breeze,
strange fruit hanging from rhe poplar trees.
Billie Holliday - Strange Fruit

I'm afraid chaps that given their history, black people are...

It's got nothing to do with the Deep South lyncings from trees...S*l is called Judas, Judas killed himself by hanging from a tree - end of - thus the song is NOT racist, nasty yes but racist, no.

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207. Poshspur Wrote: | 09.20BST | Oct 10, 2008

I'd agree with that, although Christ knows what the board will decide! I like that Billic is saying he wants to help sort Modric out, form wise! Also kind of a relief, if it's not a serious problem, that Modric has been carrying a knee issue. I really rate him in the right midfield, ie not ours at the mo... Hopefully he'll come good...
I think this break will do us good, as it's not like we've lost momentum because we were on a role! For the sixth time this season, I shall be saying to everyone around me, this is a pivital game for our season at Stoke. But with Bolton after, then four properly tough fixtures including the Arse, we surely have to take 6 points from the next two.

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208. TMWNN Wrote: | 09.40BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to JimboTheYid:

Reply to billybigspud:

Southern trees, bear a strange fruit,
blood on the leaves, blood at the root,
black bodies swinging in the southern breeze,
strange fruit hanging from rhe poplar trees.
Billie Holliday - Strange Fruit

I'm afraid chaps that given their history, black people are...

It's got nothing to do with the Deep South lyncings from trees...S*l is called Judas, Judas killed himself by hanging from a tree - end of - thus the song is NOT racist, nasty yes but racist, no.

That's according to the Gospel of Matthew.

The Acts of the Apostles (1:18) opines that 'With the reward he got for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out.'

I prefer to believe in the latter, especially if it happens in the return fixture.

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209. Nunchucks Wrote: | 09.42BST | Oct 10, 2008

Foiled again. I'll get you next time, Gadget.

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210. jamiespurs Wrote: | 09.45BST | Oct 10, 2008

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Foiled again. I'll get you next time, Gadget.

I always had you down as more of a Baron Greenback.

In the style of Avram Grant; "Mouse!"

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211. MysteriousStranger Wrote: | 10.07BST | Oct 10, 2008

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'Dawson the enforcer' =D

IF ONLY

Tell us about Glasgow again, how you adore shopping in Sauchiehall Street, and how you miss coming to White Hart Lane so you can boo the players!

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212. chuckles Wrote: | 10.11BST | Oct 10, 2008

I see Podolski is back on the radar LINK but i'll believe it when i see it. Would be a good signing IMO though.

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213. jamiespurs Wrote: | 10.16BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to MysteriousStranger:

Reply to jamiespurs:

'Dawson the enforcer' =D

IF ONLY

Tell us about Glasgow again, how you adore shopping in Sauchiehall Street, and how you miss coming to White Hart Lane so you can boo the players!

Sauchiehall street isn't really that great. Buchanan Street is where all the good shops are. Everyone knows that! However, I do admire your effort to look up a Glasgow A-Z and quote a random street name.

I didn't come to WHL to boo the players. Like I've said before, if they turn out in a Spurs shirt on matchday they have my full support. It doesn't mean I have to agree with them being in the team let alone the squad, but they all have my full support.

I have never, ever gone to a Spurs game and booed a Spurs player. I love Tottenham Hotspur and if I go to a game my energies are taken up in supporting the team. However, when I'm not watching them I'm entitled to form opinions on players.

My opinion on Dawson is that he's Championship level and an utter liability. When he plays I spend most of my time heart in mouth when the ball or a passage of play goes anywhere near him, he inspires no confidence whatsoever.

However, like I said come matchdays I'm willing him and all the boys to have good performances, the sad reality in Dawson's case is that no matter how hard we will it I fear he's past his best in a Spurs shirt.

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214. markdray Wrote: | 10.21BST | Oct 10, 2008

In other news nice to see you-know-who is at it again ... LINK

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215. SE15 YID Wrote: | 10.31BST | Oct 10, 2008

if sol cambell, michael barrymore, harry hotspur and onedavemckay all want to bat for the other team i think it's up to them but to be honest they should just come out and say that they are gay and they will feel a bit better about it.

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216. TMWNN Wrote: | 10.35BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to MysteriousStranger:
Reply to jamiespurs:

'Dawson the enforcer' =D

IF ONLY

Tell us about Glasgow again, how you adore shopping in Sauchiehall Street, and how you miss coming to White Hart Lane so you can boo the players!

Sauchiehall street isn't really that great. Buchanan Street is where all the good shops are. Everyone knows that! However, I do admire your effort to look up a Glasgow A-Z and quote a random street name.

I didn't come to WHL to boo the players. Like I've said before, if they turn out...

The most fun way to shop in Glasgow is to take a gentle stroll around the Barras market, noting the whereabouts of anything you might want.
Then go for a pint in one of the boozers nearby (not advisable if you don't have a Celtic fan as a mate) where the local scag heads will try and flog you all kinds of tat they've just stolen.
Just tell them what you want, they'll go and get it.

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217. jamiespurs Wrote: | 10.36BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to SE15 YID:

if sol cambell, michael barrymore, harry hotspur and onedavemckay all want to bat for the other team i think it's up to them but to be honest they should just come out and say that they are gay and they will feel a bit better about it.

Idiot. Now i'm no fan of ODM's but that whole quote of yours is a bit stupid isn't it?

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218. billybigspud Wrote: | 10.41BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to JimboTheYid:

Reply to billybigspud:

Southern trees, bear a strange fruit,
blood on the leaves, blood at the root,
black bodies swinging in the southern breeze,
strange fruit hanging from rhe poplar trees.
Billie Holliday - Strange Fruit

I'm afraid chaps that given their history, black people are...

It's got nothing to do with the Deep South lyncings from trees...S*l is called Judas, Judas killed himself by hanging from a tree - end of - thus the song is NOT racist, nasty yes but racist, no.

Jimbo,
The next paragraph begins - 'Of course we understand it's not an issue of race, but most hear the words without knowing the context'. So essentially you're just agreeing with me.

One thing has occurred to me though, are we sure that whoever wrote this garbage did so referencing Judas and wanting S*l to die painfully. Most of us are just making a logical assumption, I for one have only anectodal evidence that this is the case, having never spoken to the writer. It is possible that he could be referencing the KKK and homophobia.
I know that it may be difficult, given Hampshire knackers involvement, but would the writer of the s*l song, or anyone connected, care to comment?.

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219. jamiespurs Wrote: | 10.42BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to TMWNN:

Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
Reply to jamiespurs:

'Dawson the enforcer' =D

IF ONLY

Tell us about Glasgow again, how you adore shopping in Sauchiehall Street, and how you miss coming to White Hart Lane so you can boo the players!

Sauchiehall street isn't really that great. Buchanan Street is where all the good shops are. Everyone knows that! However, I do admire your effort to look up a Glasgow A-Z and quote a random street name.

I didn't come to WHL to boo the players. Like I've said before, if they turn out...

The most fun way to shop in Glasgow is to take a gentle stroll around the Barras market, noting the whereabouts of anything you might want.
Then go for a pint in one of the boozers nearby (not advisable if you don't have a Celtic fan as a mate) where the local scag heads will try and flog you...

You're joking aren't you?? The Barras?? I don't know a single sane person that would go their for a gentle stroll, unless they were interested in having their pockets picked, their handbags wrenched from their clutches and an interest in buying old tat and fake 'Guci' (seriously i've seen it spelt like that) goods.

You're best bet for a night out is to head for the west end. It has a notting hill feel about it. Lots of trendy bars and big georgian houses, for shopping I'd stick to Buchanan street, if you duck of down the alley ways of buchanan street you'll find plenty of nice hidden drinking establishments.

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220. billybigspud Wrote: | 10.43BST | Oct 10, 2008

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In other news nice to see you-know-who is at it again ... LINK

Well Rid.

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221. billybigspud Wrote: | 10.44BST | Oct 10, 2008

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In other news nice to see you-know-who is at it again ... LINK

Well Rid.

That should be WELL RID. This websites as temperamental as he is.

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222. TMWNN Wrote: | 10.49BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to TMWNN:
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
Reply to jamiespurs:

'Dawson the enforcer' =D

IF ONLY

Tell us about Glasgow again, how you adore shopping in Sauchiehall Street, and how you miss coming to White Hart Lane so you can boo the players!

Sauchiehall street isn't really that great. Buchanan Street is where all the good shops are. Everyone knows that! However, I do admire your effort to look up a Glasgow A-Z and quote a random street name.

I didn't come to WHL to boo the players. Like I've said before, if they turn out...

The most fun way to shop in Glasgow is to take a gentle stroll around the Barras market, noting the whereabouts of anything you might want.
Then go for a pint in one of the boozers nearby (not advisable if you don't have a Celtic fan as a mate) where the local scag heads will try and flog you...

You're joking aren't you?? The Barras?? I don't know a single sane person that would go their for a gentle stroll, unless they were interested in having their pockets picked, their handbags wrenched from their clutches and an interest in buying old tat and fake 'Guci' (seriously i've seen it spelt...

Yes.

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223. billybigspud Wrote: | 10.52BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to TMWNN:

Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to TMWNN:
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
Reply to jamiespurs:

'Dawson the enforcer' =D

IF ONLY

Tell us about Glasgow again, how you adore shopping in Sauchiehall Street, and how you miss coming to White Hart Lane so you can boo the players!

Sauchiehall street isn't really that great. Buchanan Street is where all the good shops are. Everyone knows that! However, I do admire your effort to look up a Glasgow A-Z and quote a random street name.

I didn't come to WHL to boo the players. Like I've said before, if they turn out...

The most fun way to shop in Glasgow is to take a gentle stroll around the Barras market, noting the whereabouts of anything you might want.
Then go for a pint in one of the boozers nearby (not advisable if you don't have a Celtic fan as a mate) where the local scag heads will try and flog you...

You're joking aren't you?? The Barras?? I don't know a single sane person that would go their for a gentle stroll, unless they were interested in having their pockets picked, their handbags wrenched from their clutches and an interest in buying old tat and fake 'Guci' (seriously i've seen it spelt...

Yes.

TMWNN,
Are you also the Mysterious Stranger?, and Jamie, were you suggesting that Nunchucks was The Cockney?.

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224. jamiespurs Wrote: | 10.57BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to billybigspud:

Reply to TMWNN:
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to TMWNN:
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
Reply to jamiespurs:

'Dawson the enforcer' =D

IF ONLY

Tell us about Glasgow again, how you adore shopping in Sauchiehall Street, and how you miss coming to White Hart Lane so you can boo the players!

Sauchiehall street isn't really that great. Buchanan Street is where all the good shops are. Everyone knows that! However, I do admire your effort to look up a Glasgow A-Z and quote a random street name.

I didn't come to WHL to boo the players. Like I've said before, if they turn out...

The most fun way to shop in Glasgow is to take a gentle stroll around the Barras market, noting the whereabouts of anything you might want.
Then go for a pint in one of the boozers nearby (not advisable if you don't have a Celtic fan as a mate) where the local scag heads will try and flog you...

You're joking aren't you?? The Barras?? I don't know a single sane person that would go their for a gentle stroll, unless they were interested in having their pockets picked, their handbags wrenched from their clutches and an interest in buying old tat and fake 'Guci' (seriously i've seen it spelt...

Yes.

TMWNN,
Are you also the Mysterious Stranger?, and Jamie, were you suggesting that Nunchucks was The Cockney?.

NO I believe they are 2 very different people.

&

NO. Although myself and Nunchucks rarely see eye-to-eye, I believe him to not be an absolute lunatic of the same scale of 'The Cockney', who's anti-zionist views and comments were actually quite disturbing and nonsensical.

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225. billybigspud Wrote: | 11.08BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to billybigspud:
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Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to TMWNN:
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to MysteriousStranger:

Tell us about Glasgow again, how you adore shopping in Sauchiehall Street, and how you miss coming to White Hart Lane so you can boo the players!

Sauchiehall street isn't really that great. Buchanan Street is where all the good shops are. Everyone knows that! However, I do admire your effort to look up a Glasgow A-Z and quote a random street name.

I didn't come to WHL to boo the players. Like I've said before, if they turn out...

The most fun way to shop in Glasgow is to take a gentle stroll around the Barras market, noting the whereabouts of anything you might want.
Then go for a pint in one of the boozers nearby (not advisable if you don't have a Celtic fan as a mate) where the local scag heads will try and flog you...

You're joking aren't you?? The Barras?? I don't know a single sane person that would go their for a gentle stroll, unless they were interested in having their pockets picked, their handbags wrenched from their clutches and an interest in buying old tat and fake 'Guci' (seriously i've seen it spelt...

Yes.

TMWNN,
Are you also the Mysterious Stranger?, and Jamie, were you suggesting that Nunchucks was The Cockney?.

NO I believe they are 2 very different people.

&

NO. Although myself and Nunchucks rarely see eye-to-eye, I believe him to not be an absolute lunatic of the same scale of 'The Cockney', who's anti-zionist views and comments were actually quite disturbing and...

Sorry fella, misconstrued the bit about the anti-terrorism squad. Thought you'd addressed that to Nunchucks. As well as a grasper of straws, it seems i have a penchant for the wrong end of sticks. 8O 8O

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226. TMWNN Wrote: | 11.08BST | Oct 10, 2008

You must have some job up there JS.

Either that or a bird with a cashmere snatch. :P

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227. jamiespurs Wrote: | 11.14BST | Oct 10, 2008

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You must have some job up there JS.

Either that or a bird with a cashmere snatch. :P

I do like my job, apart from when I'm really busy I always have a few mins to brows the internet.

The second, well.... lets just say I'm starting to look at my cashmere sweaters in a rather lingering and lustful manner! ;)

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228. billybigspud Wrote: | 11.16BST | Oct 10, 2008

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You must have some job up there JS.

Either that or a bird with a cashmere snatch. :P

I do like my job, apart from when I'm really busy I always have a few mins to brows the internet.

The second, well.... lets just say I'm starting to look at my cashmere sweaters in a rather lingering and lustful manner! ;)

Your camel coat is doing a runner as we speak ;)

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229. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 11.37BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to SE15 YID:

if sol cambell, michael barrymore, harry hotspur and onedavemckay all want to bat for the other team i think it's up to them but to be honest they should just come out and say that they are gay and they will feel a bit better about it.

SE15 - I really don't understand why you come on here. You never leave anything worth reading. You obviously don't have anything to say about football.

Isn't there a Jim Davidson website you could be on?

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230. Nunchucks Wrote: | 11.42BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to jamiespurs:

Reply to TMWNN:
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
Reply to jamiespurs:

'Dawson the enforcer' =D

IF ONLY

Tell us about Glasgow again, how you adore shopping in Sauchiehall Street, and how you miss coming to White Hart Lane so you can boo the players!

Sauchiehall street isn't really that great. Buchanan Street is where all the good shops are. Everyone knows that! However, I do admire your effort to look up a Glasgow A-Z and quote a random street name.

I didn't come to WHL to boo the players. Like I've said before, if they turn out...

The most fun way to shop in Glasgow is to take a gentle stroll around the Barras market, noting the whereabouts of anything you might want.
Then go for a pint in one of the boozers nearby (not advisable if you don't have a Celtic fan as a mate) where the local scag heads will try and flog you...

You're joking aren't you?? The Barras?? I don't know a single sane person that would go their for a gentle stroll, unless they were interested in having their pockets picked, their handbags wrenched from their clutches and an interest in buying old tat and fake 'Guci' (seriously i've seen it spelt...

I like you because you're ironyproof.

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231. jamiespurs Wrote: | 11.45BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to Nunchucks:

Reply to jamiespurs:
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Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to MysteriousStranger:
Reply to jamiespurs:

'Dawson the enforcer' =D

IF ONLY

Tell us about Glasgow again, how you adore shopping in Sauchiehall Street, and how you miss coming to White Hart Lane so you can boo the players!

Sauchiehall street isn't really that great. Buchanan Street is where all the good shops are. Everyone knows that! However, I do admire your effort to look up a Glasgow A-Z and quote a random street name.

I didn't come to WHL to boo the players. Like I've said before, if they turn out...

The most fun way to shop in Glasgow is to take a gentle stroll around the Barras market, noting the whereabouts of anything you might want.
Then go for a pint in one of the boozers nearby (not advisable if you don't have a Celtic fan as a mate) where the local scag heads will try and flog you...

You're joking aren't you?? The Barras?? I don't know a single sane person that would go their for a gentle stroll, unless they were interested in having their pockets picked, their handbags wrenched from their clutches and an interest in buying old tat and fake 'Guci' (seriously i've seen it spelt...

I like you because you're ironyproof.

I like you too :?

And if thats wrong then I don't want to be right! ;)

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232. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 11.49BST | Oct 10, 2008

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H liked the interview, without sounding like a brown noser, I couldn't really disagree with anything you said.

I thought you'd sound a bit more of a geezer though. ;)

Talking of geezers, where's the Tanner interview?

I will have to work on my 'geezerness' for you!

Trevor is a great character and consequently we're gonna do a bit more than the original Q&A thing.

I'll have an initial interview out for this weekend barring an act of God.

After that, we hope to have him drop by now and again with his news, views, knuckledusters etc etc....

;)

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233. Poshspur Wrote: | 12.19BST | Oct 10, 2008

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H liked the interview, without sounding like a brown noser, I couldn't really disagree with anything you said.

I thought you'd sound a bit more of a geezer though. ;)

Talking of geezers, where's the Tanner interview?

I will have to work on my 'geezerness' for you!

Trevor is a great character and consequently we're gonna do a bit more than the original Q&A thing.

I'll have an initial interview out for this weekend barring an act of God.

After that, we hope to have him...

At the risk of being 'site naive'/thick as , interview? Where? Who with, what?! Who am I? Who said that?!
I appreciate I haven't really committed to this site yet... 8O

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234. thfcwaynethfc Wrote: | 12.20BST | Oct 10, 2008

well, hows everyone this fine morning?!

it is pissing down outside, but im smiling, knowing that in 24 hours ill be in slovenia :)

green and white army!

in spurs related news, did any1 read steve howard in the sun this morning?

can some1 please tell tell me why ppl are bangin on about defoe???

when we sold him he was not 1st / 2nd / 3rd choice he was 4th! (imo he is better than bent)

however we were not to know that berbs + keane were too leave - i think its a stupid argument - i like defoe - he needed 1st team football - and thus he is doing well - is he a stikrer for a top 4 side - no.... are we a top 4 side, no -

but thats what we should be aspiring to be :)

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235. Poshspur Wrote: | 12.40BST | Oct 10, 2008

Ignore previous comments, scrolled up and found your interview.
I particularly liked your use of the phrase "from the go get"! I think it's important to try words in different orders to the conventional ways, it's how language evolves. It's like the Mexican food approach to language. Just wrap it another way and it's a new dish!
Talked sense, well done...press on.

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236. HarryHotspur Wrote: | 13.05BST | Oct 10, 2008

Reply to Poshspur:

Ignore previous comments, scrolled up and found your interview.
I particularly liked your use of the phrase "from the go get"! I think it's important to try words in different orders to the conventional ways, it's how language evolves. It's like the Mexican food approach to language. Just...

;) Here, Poshspur are you the same of the THBN site? :?

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237. peterridsdale Wrote: | 13.40BST | Oct 10, 2008

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This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.

Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.

Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your...

why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obscenity when the emotions are high, but there remains a hard-core of fans who think it is their right to spout filth and abuse throughout the game. At least tell me you are embarrassed by what your...

That chant has been round for quite a while now mate, it was probably created the evening Sol lost his bottle and walked out the changing room!

I'm non-plussed about what the fans were singing. Its a free world, its their choice. They didn't run on the pitch and beat Sol up and they...

yep. My views were so uninteresting that you felt compelled to respond in length.

We can agree on this. People are free to say and do what they want - if they break the law, then they will pay the consequences.

But a football club is a community. The actions of individual...

Look take your family to a game, and then complain to a steward if someone is swearing too much, see if they care. Because I my friend are way past caring!

I should imagine that you will be seen as a pedantic Percy Peasbody and You'll probably end up with a bit of abuse going your...

I think it's pretty natural for a guy to take his kids to a game and be concerned about the amount of cussing they're being subjected to.

Give the guy a break. It's not like you have extensive first hand experience of the ground, what with you being exiled in Dublin and all...

Nunchucks,

I refuse to be reeled in by your baiting regarding my location in these fair isles.

However, I do take exception to my frequention of WHL. I used to go an awful lot when I lived down south. Unfortunately due to work I have moved a long long way away from my...

Get your facts straight. I was told to go to Tunbridge Wells, not Milton Keynes. Secondly, you have inflated my crusade to one where I seek to rid society of all its ills (sending you to Dublin is a good start in this mission). I merely argue that the Campbell incident highlights that too many people think that being at a football match gives them the right to spew vile abuse irrespective of who is around them. You condemn the Campbell chant but at the same time defend the right of fans to sing what they want as "you cannot simply stop people from doing something". You can't have it both ways.

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238. jamiespurs Wrote: | 14.01BST | Oct 10, 2008

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why do we have to accept it is not going to stop? I have no problem with fans letting rip an obs