Thursday, 09 October 08, 04:53 AM · Comments (268)

Let me make my position perfectly clear. If Sol Campbell got hit by a bus tomorrow I wouldn't feel anything. He is, as they say, nothing to me. And I couldn't care less if he's gay, straight or Australian.
And so then to the 'The Sol Cambell Song' which I reproduce here, "Sol, Sol wherever you may be, not long now till lunacy, and we won't give a **** when you're hanging from a tree, you Judas **** with HIV".
Personally I go to games to cheer on our lot. I used to be bored by the 'Stand Up If You Hate Ar5ena1' chant. Now I'm embarrassed by it. When sung when we're not even playing them is an even more desperate reminder of how thin we are for songs. But anyway...
I don't sing the Sol song. It's a bloody angry bit of verse and as I said at the top of this, he's nothing to me now. But I don't sing it primarily because for all of it's venom, to me, the net result is to highlight a low in our Club's history. I'd rather get involved in something a bit more cheery, a little less grim of a Saturday afternoon.
Don't get me wrong. Barracking is good for the soul. Bellowing 'w*nker' repeatedly at one of their lot or the referee can be very theraputic. In fact, I'd recommed it.
The Sol Song. Is it racist? Based upon my own understanding of the Bible and it's tale of Judas combined with the fact that I wasn't raised in say, in the Deep South of the USA, to me it isn't. I'm not an apologist for this vicious bit of verse, just stating my personal opinion.
But we have had this hateful song doing the rounds now for what, seven years and what has it achieved? Well right now it has every bleeding heart in the media not to mention Hampshire Old Bill chasing our ambulance.
Brain Reade's sensationalist piece last week set the tone.
He was later joined by the ever outraged Peter 'F*ckwit' Tatchell in the Guardian.
Next on the scene was FA Chairman Lord Triesman.
Rio Ferdinand made an excellent statement in relation to the two bob fine Croatia got for the awful Heskey abuse. As a result of the 'renewed interest' in the Sol Campbell Song, Tottenham secured a mention in virtually all the coverage Rio got.
It's time we moved on. Unless we lose this song, we are going to be mentioned in dispatches every time the race issue rears it's ugly head in football.
Let's play football and not into the hands of the politically correct.
you say its time we moved on. It ain't. Such chants bring shame on our Spurs family, and turn what should be an enjoyable (and very expensive day-out) into a depressing experience.
Don't focus on whether the chant was racist or not (as this suggests if you can prove it wasn't, then everything is cool). The chant was vile and has no place anywhere, least of all at a place of so-called sporting entertainment where people spend 40 quid plus for a ticket and are seeking an escape from their daily lives for a few hours.
Harold - do not move on. Use your forum to let Spurs fans know this is unacceptable. Call people out on your board if it happens again. And a message to Levy - do more, do much more. Increase policing and ban those who you catch throwing abuse. Do a Cloughie, and post notices around the pitch to tell the morons there is difference between banter and abuse. Get the players to publically speak out on the issue. Make a tannoy announcement during the game; better still, stop the game if you have to and forfeit the points.
Being bottom of the league I can cope with. Having the good name of my club and fellow fans being dragged into the gutter by a bunch of humour-less morons is something I can't stand for.
Harold - don't walk away from this. Stand and fight for our club.
HH
We all know for one reason or another the papers or more importantly 'sensationalist' papers such as The Daily Mail seem to dislike Spurs and enjoy writing derogatory articles about our club. The Camp*ell saga is another example of that.
Arsenal fans taunted Ashley Cole for being gay, Le Saux used to get taunted for being gay. Unfortunately, there will always be a minority of football fans that just shout abuse at players. Thats just the way it is.
The most annoying thing about the S*l saga is that Spurs fans are being called Racists. HOW can we be racists?? We come from North London, one of the most ethnically diverse places in Britain nay Europe or even the world. Our club captain is black among other star players that are also coloured and we have over the years had many black players in our teams. A good percentage of our squad is foreign, and we call ourselves yiddo's in response to our harsh treatment from other fans due to our team coming from a jewish area of london!
Why was the FA and police force not so keen to punish West Ham whenever we play them? They firstly 'hiss' to immitate gas chambers (the holocaust) and also when Mido played for us the chant of shoe bomber was rather unjust too.
In my opinion the the press and other people have very short memories and in terms of papers like the Daily Mail there is no point in even looking at their vitriolic, nonsensical rubbish.
I agree, I've heard this sung quite a few times and never joined in. I'm not offended by it I just think it's a bit homophobic. It clearly isn't racist of course. I think we should come up with a new song about Sol steering clear of these issues.
First, grazza you have a point about the adebayor song, it is racist - and gets sung all over the place no matter who we play - interesting none of the hacks have complained about it. I have heard at every game home and away I have been to over the last few years but none of these journo's of higher moral status have mentioned it. The campbell song however is not racist and I don't believe it to be homophobic unless HIV is a disease that only affects gay people, I may be wrong but I don't think it does. that idiot deserves everything he gets.
Reply to Grazza:
I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.
Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....
Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.
What are the press banging on about??? Don't they know that Monday was the start of:
'Black History Month' on the official site???
Next thing you know we'll do a 'Gay History Month'
Just for Sol we'll do a 'Black AND Gay History Month' Or maybe just a hole weak!
Sorry for that one people, foolish and immature. I just couldn't help myself!
Reply to jamiespurs:
HH
We all know for one reason or another the papers or more importantly 'sensationalist' papers such as The Daily Mail seem to dislike Spurs and enjoy writing derogatory articles about our club. The Camp*ell saga is another example of that.
Arsenal fans taunted Ashley...
What has that got to do with the price of fish in wartime?
By your own lips, you acknowledge John Terry to be a racist, yet he plays in a team richly populated with black fellas and is not remiss with the hugs when any of them score.
Denial is futile. We've been caught with our hands in the cookie jar. Now, it's hands up, straighten up and fly right time.
Fair point Jamie - and indeed Seven Sisters is officially the most diverse area of London, and thus the whole of the UK.
By all means, I think the club should respond and officially denounce this song. It is designed to be as offensive as possible to Sol personally, but it over-steps the boundaries in doing so. The club should issue an intelligent press release both denouncing this song, saying that it is taken seriously, and then highlighting the many other forms of abuse that is rife amongst all supporters of all clubs. In other words, we are intent on cleaning our shop, but the problem is not ours alone so a more general approach by the FA etc should be taken (if it can't be policed by the fans themselves which would be ideal) rather than targeting one club.
We all know why this is news at the moment. I don't think we are a special case and in some ways I can understand the shadenfreude surounding our club and the eagerness to find ways to kick us around at the moment. It is a product of both an over-ambitious board and fans who believed both their and the medias hype regarding our standing - too much talk of a CL finish leading to too much pressure piled on from within and outside to achieve that, resulting in a veritable free-for-all of joyful abuse and rubber-necking now that the wheels have come off.
So, while I do understand why we are the media punchbag at the moment, (after all they do love to build something up so that they can kick it down again - a tried and tested media strategy), it is bloody annoying. This reaction to the Sol song is just the latest. Its absurd to characterize it as racist, and Spurs fans have been rightly shouting that at everyone trying to do so - after all I find it personally offensive to be called a racist by a transparently opportunistic band-wagon jumping no-mark like Peter Tatchell. It is offensive though, and like I said, if the club reacts in a sensible manner, at once condemning the song and also expressing...
It's not so much that Judas left to join the Woolwich Wanderers, but how he did it. A free transfer lining his own pockets, he was worth at least 20m at the time and could have easily signed a contract with a 10m get out clause (and they would have paid that) in stead he left the club that gave him his chance, made him captain and he alone robbed us of any compensation. Not just Tottenham fans but football fans everywhere should detest this sorry excuse for a human being.
Ran out of space there, anyway I think you get my point!
Southern trees, bear a strange fruit,
blood on the leaves, blood at the root,
black bodies swinging in the southern breeze,
strange fruit hanging from rhe poplar trees.
Billie Holliday - Strange Fruit
I'm afraid chaps that given their history, black people are entitled to get a little antsy when predominately white folk sing about hanging one of their number from a tree.
Of course we understand that it's not an issue of race, but most hear the words without knowing the context. The rest of it is just bitter homophobia. I'm all for calling opposing players and the ref. w*nkers but this vicious diatribe has to stop.
A suitable replacement song needs to be found.
How about
Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not long now till lunacy
And we don't give a fuck if you have an STD
Cos you're a Judas cunt who went on a free.
Ticks all the boxes and keeps the PC brigade happy too. Everyone's a winner.
Reply to HornchurchYids:
A suitable replacement song needs to be found.
How about
Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not long now till lunacy
And we don't give a fuck if you have an STD
Cos you're a Judas cunt who went on a free.
Ticks all the boxes and keeps...
How about it was seven years ago: get over it.
Reply to Grazza:
I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.
Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....
Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.
do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.
Sol should count himself lucky:
Figo found a pig's head was just one object among many - including a whisky bottle, mobile phones, golf balls - that rained down on Figo as he tried to take a corner kick for Real Madrid at the Nou Camp!
Reply to jamiespurs:
Sol should count himself lucky:
Figo found a pig's head was just one object among many - including a whisky bottle, mobile phones, golf balls - that rained down on Figo as he tried to take a corner kick for Real Madrid at the Nou Camp!
Jamie,
What did you do with Shergar?
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to Grazza:I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.
Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....
Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.
do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.
Prawn sandwich vicar?. Oh the poor downtrodden working-class
Reply to jamiespurs:
Sol should count himself lucky:
Figo found a pig's head was just one object among many - including a whisky bottle, mobile phones, golf balls - that rained down on Figo as he tried to take a corner kick for Real Madrid at the Nou Camp!
His ebay shop must be an Alladin's cave ....
That song is a bit naughty as far as chants go, but there's nothing racist about it.
The hanging from a tree line relates to Sols perceived mental state, not the treatment of blacks in the deep south.
Still, it isn't very nice.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Alan Shergar?
I sent him to work on the apprentice!
I was thinking more of offers you can't refuse. clearly, Basil has not left the building.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to jamiespurs:Sol should count himself lucky:
Figo found a pig's head was just one object among many - including a whisky bottle, mobile phones, golf balls - that rained down on Figo as he tried to take a corner kick for Real Madrid at the Nou Camp!His ebay shop must be an Alladin's cave ....
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Coming In Your Ears
LINK
Harry,
Do you drive a wheelchair, drink from a vase and have a thing for Thora Hird?.
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to HarryHotspur:Coming In Your Ears
LINKHarry,
Do you drive a wheelchair, drink from a vase and have a thing for Thora Hird?.
I'm not as feng shui as you!
Surely one of the finest comedy shows ever?
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to HarryHotspur:Coming In Your Ears
LINKHarry,
Do you drive a wheelchair, drink from a vase and have a thing for Thora Hird?.
Dodgy Eric: [about the Bucking Bronco] I'll give you a week's free trial while I get your table fixed, then she's got to go to the European Finals in Dusseldorf.
Brian Potter: Dusseldorf? Oh, good. You can take "das fruit machine" back with you.
People are calling for us to forget about Campbell, forgotten history. But it isnt. Maybe once he hangs up his boots and doesnt frequent the gates of WHL ever again can we forget that he ever existed. But when he comes to visit, we have every right to give the bastard hell for what he done.
We remember the good times and our greatest achievments, so its hard to exoect us to forget about the bad times and one of the lowest points in our history. That may sound extreme, but it was teh ultimate betrayal and I for one think he deserves everything he gets from the terraces.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to billybigspud:Reply to HarryHotspur:Coming In Your Ears
LINKHarry,
Do you drive a wheelchair, drink from a vase and have a thing for Thora Hird?.I'm not as feng shui as you!
Surely one of the finest comedy shows ever?
Did you like Early Doors by Craig Cash (Royle Family's Dave)?.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Reply to billybigspud:Reply to HarryHotspur:Coming In Your Ears
LINKHarry,
Do you drive a wheelchair, drink from a vase and have a thing for Thora Hird?.Dodgy Eric: [about the Bucking Bronco] I'll give you a week's free trial while I get your table fixed, then she's got to go to the European Finals in Dusseldorf.
Brian Potter: Dusseldorf? Oh, good. You can take "das fruit machine" back with you.
Dodgy Eric: She'll be shitting money
Brain Potter: If not it better start shitting snooker tables
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to HornchurchYids:A suitable replacement song needs to be found.
How about
Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not long now till lunacy
And we don't give a fuck if you have an STD
Cos you're a Judas cunt who went on a free.
Ticks all the boxes and keeps...How about it was seven years ago: get over it.
Sorry Nunchucks but I belive that any player associated with the scum deserves an earful whenever they come to the lane.
It's called rivalry.
Or maybe we should just hug opposing fans and spread love to all mankind?
Oops, sorry. You might see that mankind remark as sexist. No offense birds!
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to jamiespurs:Reply to billybigspud:Reply to HarryHotspur:Coming In Your Ears
LINKHarry,
Do you drive a wheelchair, drink from a vase and have a thing for Thora Hird?.I'm not as feng shui as you!
Surely one of the finest comedy shows ever?Did you like Early Doors by Craig Cash (Royle Family's Dave)?.
Prefered 'The Smoking Room' myself, You like that one? Never really got into Early Doors, on the rare occassion I caught it I found it funny but it never wuite held my attention.
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to Grazza:I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.
Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....
Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.
do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.
Yes mum
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to HarryHotspur:Reply to billybigspud:Reply to HarryHotspur:Coming In Your Ears
LINKHarry,
Do you drive a wheelchair, drink from a vase and have a thing for Thora Hird?.Dodgy Eric: [about the Bucking Bronco] I'll give you a week's free trial while I get your table fixed, then she's got to go to the European Finals in Dusseldorf.
Brian Potter: Dusseldorf? Oh, good. You can take "das fruit machine" back with you.
Dodgy Eric: She'll be shitting money
Brain Potter: If not it better start shitting snooker tables
Same guy delivered the bouncy castle with the 'giant lovelength', i almost cried with laughter. looking forward to his new show about pop reality shows this w/e.
I say keep on singing it until he has the good grace to admit he shafted us.
At last someone comes out of the club and says something outside of the standard football speak, take a bow David Bentley! We are a laughing stock at the moment and while nothing can be done about the clowns at the top we could at least have some balls on the pitch. Make him captain straight away (or as soon as he has a haircut)!
A bit off subject I know, but aren't some people just massive arseholes?
LINK
people like this are great examples of how the UK's education system is epically failing.
Reply to spursfan333:
A bit off subject I know, but aren't some people just massive arseholes?
LINK
people like this are great examples of how the UK's education system is epically failing.
This would explain where a lot of posters on here came from - the first week I moved to OleOle....
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to peterridsdale:Reply to Grazza:I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.
Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....
Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.
do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.
Yes mum
Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"
Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.
I swear the FA are taking all the fun out of football.
Singing and banter is just as much a part of the matchday experience as actually watching the game.
Football wouldnt be football without it!
Theyre like the health and safety men off Soccer AM
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to Grazza:Reply to peterridsdale:Reply to Grazza:I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.
Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....
Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.
do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.
Yes mum
Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"
Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.
Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground.
Reply to spursfan333:
I swear the FA are taking all the fun out of football.
Singing and banter is just as much a part of the matchday experience as actually watching the game.
Football wouldnt be football without it!
Theyre like the health and safety men off Soccer AM
Jamie, over to you.
Reply to HornchurchYids:
Reply to Nunchucks:Reply to HornchurchYids:A suitable replacement song needs to be found.
How about
Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not long now till lunacy
And we don't give a fuck if you have an STD
Cos you're a Judas cunt who went on a free.
Ticks all the boxes and keeps...How about it was seven years ago: get over it.
Sorry Nunchucks but I belive that any player associated with the scum deserves an earful whenever they come to the lane.
It's called rivalry.
Or maybe we should just hug opposing fans and spread love to all mankind?
Oops, sorry. You might see that...
If that's your definition of rivalry, fair play to you.
You're probably one of the Spurs elite who bolts upright as soon as you hear someone start off 'Stand Up If You Hate Arsenal' when we're playing Bolton away. Nothing like a nice bit of rivalry when the rivals are 300 miles away, though, eh?
There's rivalry, and there's embarrassment. Watching some skiffle headed, cordy necked hokey scream about hanging from trees and HIV and all that jazz for seven years: that's embarrassing.
As is reading the room temperature IQ afflicted amongst you defending that shit.
Tony Jimenez has left Newcastle to 'pursue other interests' - like Comolli's job perhaps?
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to HornchurchYids:Reply to Nunchucks:Reply to HornchurchYids:A suitable replacement song needs to be found.
How about
Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not long now till lunacy
And we don't give a fuck if you have an STD
Cos you're a Judas cunt who went on a free.
Ticks all the boxes and keeps...How about it was seven years ago: get over it.
Sorry Nunchucks but I belive that any player associated with the scum deserves an earful whenever they come to the lane.
It's called rivalry.
Or maybe we should just hug opposing fans and spread love to all mankind?
Oops, sorry. You might see that...If that's your definition of rivalry, fair play to you.
You're probably one of the Spurs elite who bolts upright as soon as you hear someone start off 'Stand Up If You Hate Arsenal' when we're playing Bolton away. Nothing like a nice bit of rivalry when the rivals are 300 miles away,...
Ouch
Reply to Chirpy:
Tony Jimenez has left Newcastle to 'pursue other interests' - like Comolli's job perhaps?
was thinking the same thing myslef Chirpy, can't be any worse than Comolli.....
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to Grazza:Reply to Grazza:Reply to peterridsdale:Reply to Grazza:I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.
Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....
Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.
do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.
Yes mum
Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"
Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground.![]()
Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.
I doubt he considered that the block I frequent is hardly populated by the shy retiring type and/or whippersnappers.
Patronizing fiend.
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to HornchurchYids:Reply to Nunchucks:Reply to HornchurchYids:A suitable replacement song needs to be found.
How about
Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not long now till lunacy
And we don't give a fuck if you have an STD
Cos you're a Judas cunt who went on a free.
Ticks all the boxes and keeps...How about it was seven years ago: get over it.
Sorry Nunchucks but I belive that any player associated with the scum deserves an earful whenever they come to the lane.
It's called rivalry.
Or maybe we should just hug opposing fans and spread love to all mankind?
Oops, sorry. You might see that...If that's your definition of rivalry, fair play to you.
You're probably one of the Spurs elite who bolts upright as soon as you hear someone start off 'Stand Up If You Hate Arsenal' when we're playing Bolton away. Nothing like a nice bit of rivalry when the rivals are 300 miles away,...
Hear F*ckin' Hear.
Reply to Chirpy:
Tony Jimenez has left Newcastle to 'pursue other interests' - like Comolli's job perhaps?
Is he better than comolli? If yes, brign him in. Although I prefer no more DoF at the club.
Being a loyal member of the GAWA (Green and White Army) - our home and away matches have the best atmoshphere in the world (yes better ATMOSPHERE than the lane on a derby day)- not cause are chants are racist/homophobic etc. our songs are just plain funny (i.e. were not brazil, away in a manger, no crib for a bed, the little lord jesus lay down his sweet head, the stars in the bright sky look down were Healy, Healy, Healy, you are my Davis my stevie Davis, you make me happy when skies are grey, so f**k your lampard, your stevie gerrard, please dont take our davis away), but ALL OUR FANS - get behind our team and means are small nation perform better - yes we our the 12th man - results at windsor park 3-2 spain, 1-0 england, 2-1 sweden, 0-0 czhec etc.
my point im trying to make is atmoshpere is crucially important at matches and can spur the players on. What I'm saying is songs dont have to be homophoic/racist etc (Not saying Sol song is racist)
i can see both sides of the argument...one is the song itself (i dont see it as racist) and so if fans sing it what is the prob? i can see the opposition as it is a disgusting song in terms of word choice, so is it appropriate at a match were kids are watching, tv cameras are watching...while watching match on sky i knew exactly what was being sung - yes i joined in (in my own living room), but knew there would be actions taken - the fa looking to investigate + my dad asking me to wash my mouth out
You have to ask yourself - by singing a song like that and drawing attention to ourselves - did it spur the players on - did sol campbell performance suffer - the answer too both were NO. So then why sing it?
People will say they are letting sol know exactly how they feel for him - i think sol knows how we feel about him by now.
im with Harry, i couldnt care if sol died tomorro, that doesnt mean i have to keep singing songs about him at a match drawing attention to ourselves.
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to chuckles:Reply to Chirpy:Tony Jimenez has left Newcastle to 'pursue other interests' - like Comolli's job perhaps?
was thinking the same thing myslef Chirpy, can't be any worse than Comolli.....
no not a debate about comolli again
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to billybigspud:Reply to Grazza:Reply to Grazza:Reply to peterridsdale:Reply to Grazza:I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.
Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....
Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.
do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.
Yes mum
Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"
Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground.![]()
Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.
I doubt he...
Anyone who goes to a game expecting not to hear language of a fruity nature is delusional. I've been going since my dad took me to a home game against Wolves in the early 60's. I can remember singing along to 'Dougan is a fairy' which was pretty racy then, and embarrassed my dad. Not politically correct nowadays obviously, but the language has got increasingly worse, mine included.
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Being a loyal member of the GAWA (Green and White Army) - our home and away matches have the best atmoshphere in the world (yes better ATMOSPHERE than the lane on a derby day)- not cause are chants are racist/homophobic etc. our songs are just plain funny (i.e. were not brazil, away in a manger, no...
wayne, hate to disagree with you but some of the chants in windsor park are not in the least funny and i have experienced these from the other side of the community.
Anyway, that aside, being a free country you will always get an idiot who starts singing whatever he feels which then gives everyone else associated with the club a bad name.
This whole story about Sol's song will blow over in a matter of weeks once the press get something new to rant and rave about. There will no doubt be a few idiots singing it again loud and proud when we next play portsmouth and i hope the club make an example of them publically.
Reply to chuckles:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:Being a loyal member of the GAWA (Green and White Army) - our home and away matches have the best atmoshphere in the world (yes better ATMOSPHERE than the lane on a derby day)- not cause are chants are racist/homophobic etc. our songs are just plain funny (i.e. were not brazil, away in a manger, no...
wayne, hate to disagree with you but some of the chants in windsor park are not in the least funny and i have experienced these from the other side of the community.
Anyway, that aside, being a free country you will always get an idiot who starts singing whatever he feels which then...
the atmosphere at windsor has changed over the last 3-4 years - making it enjoyable for both sides of the community.
again as you point out you will always get the odd one or two - which should be punished severely.
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to HornchurchYids:Reply to Nunchucks:Reply to HornchurchYids:A suitable replacement song needs to be found.
How about
Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not long now till lunacy
And we don't give a fuck if you have an STD
Cos you're a Judas cunt who went on a free.
Ticks all the boxes and keeps...How about it was seven years ago: get over it.
Sorry Nunchucks but I belive that any player associated with the scum deserves an earful whenever they come to the lane.
It's called rivalry.
Or maybe we should just hug opposing fans and spread love to all mankind?
Oops, sorry. You might see that...If that's your definition of rivalry, fair play to you.
You're probably one of the Spurs elite who bolts upright as soon as you hear someone start off 'Stand Up If You Hate Arsenal' when we're playing Bolton away. Nothing like a nice bit of rivalry when the rivals are 300 miles away,...
My defintion of rivalry is standing on the old North Bank, Highbury with a load of Yids watching Robbo stick Charlie Nicholas in the stands.
But then my experiences as a Spurs fan are most likely completely different to you. They are no less valid, just different.
We can't all be like you Nunchucks.
Reply to Grazza:
Reply to billybigspud:Reply to Grazza:Reply to Grazza:Reply to peterridsdale:Reply to Grazza:I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.
Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....
Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.
do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.
Yes mum
Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"
Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground.![]()
Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.
I doubt he...
Of course it matters. Too many people on here are justifying the abuse given out to Campbell on the basis that 1. He deserves it 2. We are sit in a block where people only know two words and one begins with an F and the other with a C 3. its not racist and if its not racist, then whats the problem.
My hope is that the vast majority of Spurs fans don't want to hear this type of abuse ever again. There is nothing better than a genuinely funny chant or banter - it really is part of the game. But you are now resorting to vile and degrading abuse. For those who want to continue this hatred - you bring shame on us all. Do you really think that you have enhanced our reputation this week, but then again, I guess you don't care.
Spurs is not a racist club. WHL is based in the most multicultural area in the country. Ledley King is idolised.
Yet attendance at any match at WHL is hardly family entertainment is it?
There is a moronic sub culture present in the game of football that is absent in any other game. Why is that?
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to Grazza:Reply to billybigspud:Reply to Grazza:Reply to Grazza:Reply to peterridsdale:Reply to Grazza:I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.
Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....
Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.
do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.
Yes mum
Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"
Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground.![]()
Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.
I doubt he...Anyone who goes to a game expecting not to hear language of a fruity nature is delusional. I've been going since my dad took me to a home game against Wolves in the early 60's. I can remember singing along to 'Dougan is a fairy' which was pretty racy then, and embarrassed my dad. Not politically...
delusional? Almost certainly.
But just because it may be impossible to stamp out the fruity language, it doesn't mean we have to put up with the X-rated stuff.
Reply to ToniMontana:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:Reply to chuckles:Reply to Chirpy:Tony Jimenez has left Newcastle to 'pursue other interests' - like Comolli's job perhaps?
was thinking the same thing myslef Chirpy, can't be any worse than Comolli.....
no not a debate about comolli again
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Whats this about Comolli???
Fatknacker - Where the people end up with rubber burns, BP "Rubber burns, I thought he was a scottish poet!"
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to ToniMontana:Reply to thfcwaynethfc:Reply to chuckles:Reply to Chirpy:Tony Jimenez has left Newcastle to 'pursue other interests' - like Comolli's job perhaps?
was thinking the same thing myslef Chirpy, can't be any worse than Comolli.....
no not a debate about comolli again
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Whats this about Comolli???
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Fatknacker - Where the people end up with rubber burns, BP "Rubber burns, I thought he was a scottish poet!"
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to Grazza:Reply to billybigspud:Reply to Grazza:Reply to Grazza:Reply to peterridsdale:Reply to Grazza:I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.
Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....
Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.
do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.
Yes mum
Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"
Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground.![]()
Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.
I doubt he...Anyone who goes to a game expecting not to hear language of a fruity nature is delusional. I've been going since my dad took me to a home game against Wolves in the early 60's. I can remember singing along to 'Dougan is a fairy' which was pretty racy then, and embarrassed my dad. Not politically...
I can remember getting home after spurs manure in the 70s .. and wandering around singing 'He's shot, he;s cum , all over marys bum tommy doc' ... and my mum looking at me in horror ...
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to billybigspud:Reply to Grazza:Reply to billybigspud:Reply to Grazza:Reply to Grazza:Reply to peterridsdale:do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.
Yes mum
Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"
Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground.![]()
Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.
I doubt he...Anyone who goes to a game expecting not to hear language of a fruity nature is delusional. I've been going since my dad took me to a home game against Wolves in the early 60's. I can remember singing along to 'Dougan is a fairy' which was pretty racy then, and embarrassed my dad. Not politically...
delusional? Almost certainly.
But just because it may be impossible to stamp out the fruity language, it doesn't mean we have to put up with the X-rated stuff.
We are in absolute agreement on the Campbell song. It is blatantly homophobic and perceived to be racist, a particularly spiteful and unpleasant chant of the type that should have stayed with the 'Life on Mars' generation.
Trying to ban other fruity language on the back of it is Quixotic. We all want to protect our kids from the unpleasant side of life, but you can't wrap them in cotton wool. I guess that, like my dad, your'e probably more uncomfortable about it than your children.
Reply to markdray:
Reply to billybigspud:Reply to Grazza:Reply to billybigspud:Reply to Grazza:Reply to Grazza:Reply to peterridsdale:do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.
Yes mum
Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"
Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground.![]()
Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.
I doubt he...Anyone who goes to a game expecting not to hear language of a fruity nature is delusional. I've been going since my dad took me to a home game against Wolves in the early 60's. I can remember singing along to 'Dougan is a fairy' which was pretty racy then, and embarrassed my dad. Not politically...
I can remember getting home after spurs manure in the 70s .. and wandering around singing 'He's shot, he;s cum , all over marys bum tommy doc' ... and my mum looking at me in horror ...
oh sh*t
Reply to HornchurchYids:
Reply to Nunchucks:Reply to HornchurchYids:Reply to Nunchucks:Reply to HornchurchYids:A suitable replacement song needs to be found.
How about
Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not long now till lunacy
And we don't give a fuck if you have an STD
Cos you're a Judas cunt who went on a free.
Ticks all the boxes and keeps...How about it was seven years ago: get over it.
Sorry Nunchucks but I belive that any player associated with the scum deserves an earful whenever they come to the lane.
It's called rivalry.
Or maybe we should just hug opposing fans and spread love to all mankind?
Oops, sorry. You might see that...If that's your definition of rivalry, fair play to you.
You're probably one of the Spurs elite who bolts upright as soon as you hear someone start off 'Stand Up If You Hate Arsenal' when we're playing Bolton away. Nothing like a nice bit of rivalry when the rivals are 300 miles away,...My defintion of rivalry is standing on the old North Bank, Highbury with a load of Yids watching Robbo stick Charlie Nicholas in the stands.
But then my experiences as a Spurs fan are most likely completely different to you. They are no less valid, just different.
We...
Let's hug it out.
as ppl are already pissed off with my little comolli pic....i originally said i will wait to jan window to see wether i keep the mr comollis pic or not - however im willing to remove it now - for the first person to come up with a chant/song for every1 to sing at whitehart lane - the chant cannot be racisit/homophobic/contain swear words - the 1st person to make me laugh - will win the prize of off seeing me remove my hero mr comolli
and pick out a new pic - anything you want!
songs please.....
Come on, what parent wants to completely censor their childs life? I think its not only unreasonable but it also fails to prepare them for the real world. Its not bad enough that we live in a nanny state some people now want to make their kids live in bubbles.
Lets face it for all the efforts parents make to avoid their kids coming into contact with swearing etc it will all go right out the window in the real world! Kids swear, they find it amusing because its forbidden. For all of you saying "oh my kid shouldn't be exposed to this etc" just remember that when they go to school they'll end up looking at porn, swearing, trying cigarettes maybe through peer pressure try drugs. There is only so long you can wrap kids in cotton wool.
Football is stressful and going to a game is even more stressful. I'm not saying that its alright for grown men to F and C the place down but its just a part of life. IMO trying to ban it will not work, we just have to accept that some people find it perfectly normal to f&c and some people dont.
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
as ppl are already pissed off with my little comolli pic....i originally said i will wait to jan window to see wether i keep the mr comollis pic or not - however im willing to remove it now - for the first person to come up with a chant/song for every1 to sing at whitehart lane - the chant cannot be...
I apologise for having said harsh words to you on a previous post. You are clearly a gent, a little confused imo but nethertheless a gent
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to Grazza:Reply to billybigspud:Reply to Grazza:Reply to Grazza:Reply to peterridsdale:Reply to Grazza:I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.
Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....
Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.
do not call anyone a c*nt while at a match. There are children present and parents are not spending a small fortune to take their kids to a forum where you will spout foul-mouthed abuse because you can't think of anything positive to shout.
Yes mum
Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"
Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground.![]()
Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.
I doubt he...Of course it matters. Too many people on here are justifying the abuse given out to Campbell on the basis that 1. He deserves it 2. We are sit in a block where people only know two words and one begins with an F and the other with a C 3. its not racist and if its not racist, then whats the...
Lets get this straight, i have never been a supporter or advocate of the Campbell song or the Adebayor song. I certainly dont feel comfortable singing stuff like that. I dont think its big or clever.
Thats why i said call a C a C - as in "tell it how it is"
I certainly do care about about singing ridiculous songs about Campbell/Adebayor because the criticism from all around is very hard to take, esp when im not involved. I swear plenty at football but i certainly dont cross the line signing crap like that.
If you look at my first post it says time to knock these songs on the head. What i meant by my second point in the same is "tell it like it is". Im not so stupid im going to start effing & c'ing next to a father & child.
I think we are at cross purposes somewhere so i'll leave it at that.
Why the name anyway?
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
as ppl are already pissed off with my little comolli pic....i originally said i will wait to jan window to see wether i keep the mr comollis pic or not - however im willing to remove it now - for the first person to come up with a chant/song for every1 to sing at whitehart lane - the chant cannot be...
Who was the cat with the Ewa Sonnet avatar? Now that was a goddamn avatar.
I miss him.
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to peterridsdale:Reply to billybigspud:Reply to Grazza:Reply to billybigspud:Reply to Grazza:Reply to Grazza:Yes mum
Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"
Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground.![]()
Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.
I doubt he...Anyone who goes to a game expecting not to hear language of a fruity nature is delusional. I've been going since my dad took me to a home game against Wolves in the early 60's. I can remember singing along to 'Dougan is a fairy' which was pretty racy then, and embarrassed my dad. Not politically...
delusional? Almost certainly.
But just because it may be impossible to stamp out the fruity language, it doesn't mean we have to put up with the X-rated stuff.We are in absolute agreement on the Campbell song. It is blatantly homophobic and perceived to be racist, a particularly spiteful and unpleasant chant of the type that should have stayed with the 'Life on Mars' generation.
Trying to ban other fruity language on the back of it is Quixotic. We...
Agreed - a formal ban on fruity language is futile and an attack on our civil rights. However, too many people think it is their right to use industrial language just because they are at a football match. Why? We can't wrap kids in cotton wool but that doesn't mean people have the right to shout f**k, c**t, and w*****r throughout the match.
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:as ppl are already pissed off with my little comolli pic....i originally said i will wait to jan window to see wether i keep the mr comollis pic or not - however im willing to remove it now - for the first person to come up with a chant/song for every1 to sing at whitehart lane - the chant cannot be...
Who was the cat with the Ewa Sonnet avatar? Now that was a goddamn avatar.
I miss him.
Just looked her up and found her on Lana's big boobs website. I can see why you miss him, you should set up a link
Hypocritical nonsense!
Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow annihilation of the oppressed people of the world, off of which we maintain our standard of living.
This in turn has made our society lazy, unfulfilled and full of pathetic 'rules' by police ourselves thus enabling those at the top to rule over our masses under the so called banner of 'law and order'.
This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism.
The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried out by that state.
Then we start getting uppity about a couple of songs which are self censored to allude to racist comments but are not overtly racist.
I can't believe you HH would become such an agent of PR for the club like the hungry whore of Babylon you have become!
I've been a Spurs fan for 30 years and I still live in Haringey unlike most of you pathetic fans, we've had plenty of players of all races and creeds, from Nayim, Mido, Ghaly to Garth, Ossie, Ricky and Ronnie Rozenthal but we all understand what is sung is all fair in rivalry. Today's songs are a self censured form of expression, so what if Footballers don't like it, they should deal with the consequences, and as far as I know it doesn't go beyond the terraces on match days. It's part and parcel of the banter at a football match and nothing beyond.
Stop kidding yourselves, bring out the truth and stop being such a bunch of puppets, 'oh no I never sing those songs' why lie to yourselves?
Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!
I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??
Reply to The Cockney:
Hypocritical nonsense!
Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow...
"This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."
there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!
I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??
i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.
im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure it
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to The Cockney:Hypocritical nonsense!
Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow..."This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."
there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.
You picked out the wrong paragraph.
This is the money shot right here:
"The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried out by that state."
A mildly interesting read until this statement, which unfortunately took the sting out of the rest of the article due to my subsequently wondering if the author was downs syndrome.
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jamiespurs:Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!
I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.
im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure it
Well there you go. How do you measure the immeasurable! One persons limit may be one persons starting point.
To be quite honest I think today on here as seen some of the most pointless arguments I have ever witnessed. Banning people from swearing would be ludicrous and against free speech.
Fair enough the racist and homophobic chanting is out of order but swearing?? Really?
I have been falsely accused of racism in the past and to be quite honest I find some people hide behind the "he's being a racist" argument too often. I fear this country is becoming a farce.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!
I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??
I'd argue that nearly everyone here very often finds themselves roaring at a decision or action on the pitch with industrial language not realising what they're actually saying. this happens with every sports and is only human nature
Reply to chuckles:
Reply to jamiespurs:Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!
I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??I'd argue that nearly everyone here very often finds themselves roaring at a decision or action on the pitch with industrial language not realising what they're actually saying. this happens with every sports and is only human nature
Chuckles,
Hitting the nail on the head, human nature. Some people swear, some people don't I defy everyone on here that says they have NEVER used a profanity. Its a way of life in the modern world, some may not like it but they will have to accept it. I'd hate it if they banned swearing, I'd be f*cking livid!
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to billybigspud:Reply to peterridsdale:Reply to billybigspud:Reply to Grazza:Reply to billybigspud:Reply to Grazza:Am i allowed to chant "wwwwwwwwwwoooooooahhh, you're Sh*t agggggggghh"
Or is that offensive. I might upset the oppositions goalie actually. Best not.Grazza,
I think he's deluding himself that little Tarquin isn't hearing or saying far worse in the playground.![]()
Its not that, its just the fact that he's barked that little order out and not taken into account the fact that maybe, just maybe, the person he is addressing has the presence of mind not to shout the "C" word within the earshot of kiddies. If that even matters as you say.
I doubt he...Anyone who goes to a game expecting not to hear language of a fruity nature is delusional. I've been going since my dad took me to a home game against Wolves in the early 60's. I can remember singing along to 'Dougan is a fairy' which was pretty racy then, and embarrassed my dad. Not politically...
delusional? Almost certainly.
But just because it may be impossible to stamp out the fruity language, it doesn't mean we have to put up with the X-rated stuff.We are in absolute agreement on the Campbell song. It is blatantly homophobic and perceived to be racist, a particularly spiteful and unpleasant chant of the type that should have stayed with the 'Life on Mars' generation.
Trying to ban other fruity language on the back of it is Quixotic. We...Agreed - a formal ban on fruity language is futile and an attack on our civil rights. However, too many people think it is their right to use industrial language just because they are at a football match. Why? We can't wrap kids in cotton wool but that doesn't mean people have the right to shout...
I've always considered it a bit of an unwritten contract that when i've bought my ticket it comes with a right to let off a little steam. This often results in me questioning the parentage and solo sexual habits of the ref. and opposition. Like Grazza I'd temper this if sitting near children. I'd suggest you get used to it or go watch the rugby.
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:Reply to jamiespurs:Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!
I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.
im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure itWell there you go. How do you measure the immeasurable! One persons limit may be one persons starting point.
To be quite honest I think today on here as seen some of the most pointless arguments I have ever witnessed. Banning people from swearing would be ludicrous and against free...
i agree - i do not swear in everyday life - however at a football game (any game) - i swear all the time - i dont know why - think its frustration.
i think its ok to swear - ( i was going to say within reason
)
i havent a clue about the swearing debate - if your sitting next to a child and someone keeps swearing then i would feel uncomfortale.
ok i think i have got it
i believe we should all make an effort not to swear, if it happens it happens, least we tried.
im confusing myself
fuck 
Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not your sexuality or ethnicity
Or your age or your dress sense or mentality
Your just a lying **** and this song's PC!
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:Reply to jamiespurs:Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!
I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.
im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure itWell there you go. How do you measure the immeasurable! One persons limit may be one persons starting point.
To be quite honest I think today on here as seen some of the most pointless arguments I have ever witnessed. Banning people from swearing would be ludicrous and against free...
no one is talking about banning swearing. That would obviously be futile. But too many of you are justifying your right to swear on the basis that parents are being too protective of their kids. Why not let them watch porn when they are at kindergarten - after all, they will see it eventually?
Families have just as much right to go to Spurs as you do, and it is no longer reasonable for them to have to tolerate constant swearing just because you think it is OK. Society does not accept such behaviour at other sporting events - why do you think football is an exception?
Wayne
I do try not to swear when there are children presesnt but when they are little sh*ts what can you do! lol
No you don't have to sing along but whose to say anyone can stop anyone else from singing what is essentially a release at a football match against a rival player who has wronged the club.
If you look closely then you will realise this is an engineered plan in order to make draconian changes to the way we think and what can be expressed at a football match. We have come a long way, to the stage where we are all self censuring, personally I don't see a need for further censorship because it's unhealthy and all it does is keeps people's true feelings hidden which is the reason why our institutions are failing us today because it's such a big lie.
This is an argument about suppressing as oppossed to expression and we must stop the sheep mentality as well as the absurd suggestions that we don't by now know better as to what is acceptable and what isn't. It's a stick and carrot and I for one am not a f-ing donkey to be hit by a stick every time I want to express my feelings at a football match.
Reply to Yidfield_General:
Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not your sexuality or ethnicity
Or your age or your dress sense or mentality
Your just a lying **** and this song's PC!
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You my friend are a f*ckin' poet.
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:
Reply to jamiespurs:Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!
I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.
im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure it
oh, so if we can't measure it, lets just swear as much as we want. Stop making excuses, clean up your act, and make WHL a great place for everyone to go to.
Reply to The Cockney:
No you don't have to sing along but whose to say anyone can stop anyone else from singing what is essentially a release at a football match against a rival player who has wronged the club.
If you look closely then you will realise this is an engineered plan in order to make draconian...
I prefer the carrot to the stick, only in your case i'm not sure where i'd want to shove it.
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:Reply to jamiespurs:Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!
I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.
im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure itoh, so if we can't measure it, lets just swear as much as we want. Stop making excuses, clean up your act, and make WHL a great place for everyone to go to.
I do solemnly "swear" not to swear so much if Spurs start winning some games!
That's about the best I can offer!
Reply to jamiespurs:
Reply to chuckles:Reply to jamiespurs:Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!
I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??I'd argue that nearly everyone here very often finds themselves roaring at a decision or action on the pitch with industrial language not realising what they're actually saying. this happens with every sports and is only human nature
Chuckles,
Hitting the nail on the head, human nature. Some people swear, some people don't I defy everyone on here that says they have NEVER used a profanity. Its a way of life in the modern world, some may not like it but they will have to accept it. I'd hate it if they banned...
we have been accepting it for the last 30 years and the Campbell incident saw us reach the low point of decency. Again, no one is talking about banning, and the nature of football is that there will always be swearing. However, too many of you think that your ticket gives you the right to swear throughout the whole game. It's not acceptable anymore. Clean up your act
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:Reply to jamiespurs:Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!
I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.
im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure itoh, so if we can't measure it, lets just swear as much as we want. Stop making excuses, clean up your act, and make WHL a great place for everyone to go to.
Lets homogenise the world, i could do with a 'Stepford wife'.
Reply to Yidfield_General:
Reply to peterridsdale:Reply to thfcwaynethfc:Reply to jamiespurs:Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!
I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.
im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure itoh, so if we can't measure it, lets just swear as much as we want. Stop making excuses, clean up your act, and make WHL a great place for everyone to go to.
I do solemnly "swear" not to swear so much if Spurs start winning some games!
That's about the best I can offer!
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its a start.
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to Yidfield_General:Reply to peterridsdale:Reply to thfcwaynethfc:Reply to jamiespurs:Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!
I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.
im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure itoh, so if we can't measure it, lets just swear as much as we want. Stop making excuses, clean up your act, and make WHL a great place for everyone to go to.
I do solemnly "swear" not to swear so much if Spurs start winning some games!
That's about the best I can offer!
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its a start.
Group hug.........
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:Reply to The Cockney:Hypocritical nonsense!
Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow..."This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."
there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.You picked out the wrong paragraph.
This is the money shot right here:
"The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried...
Nunchucks
Your spiteful comment belittling people with developmental disorders takes the sting out of your argument too I'm afraid.
peterridsdale
Will you please stop with this incessant 'clean up your act' campaign. I'm not saying every other word is a swear word OR that its perfectly acceptable to swear all the time, I think you have to realise that in certain pressure moments, like at a football match people swear, its a pressure release mechanism.
To be quite honest you sound like the kind of guy who's had his kids doing chores since they were 4 and ban them from watching tv after 8pm in order to teach them the merits of a virtuous life. I'm afraid you seem to be living in the victorian era my friend.
Reply to Yidfield_General:
Sol, Sol wherever you may be
It's not your sexuality or ethnicity
Or your age or your dress sense or mentality
Your just a lying **** and this song's PC!
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i was getting ready to remove my comolli pic, up until the last line were i noticed ****
good song tho 
Reply to Nunchucks:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:Reply to The Cockney:Hypocritical nonsense!
Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow..."This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."
there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.You picked out the wrong paragraph.
This is the money shot right here:
"The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried...
To Nunchucks,
What is it you don't agree with about the statement about Israel. Are you disputing what I wrote, so then let's discuss it, you make your case and allow me to divulge some facts but don't just assume whenever anyone questions anything about Israel that they don't have a very valid point because you are just being ignorant and dismissive without any grounds to be.
So you tell me what's worse, the fact that this football club is a supporter of Israel which is in effect a terrorist state built on terrorism or that a few fans sing some censured songs on the terraces which doesn't go any further and therefore cannot be seriously questioned as having a profound effect on that player, especially when a player has to go through that maybe 180 minutes in a season?
Well done Nunchucks! lol
Another thing for PeterPissdale to get his knockers in a twist about!
Reply to peterridsdale:
Reply to thfcwaynethfc:Reply to jamiespurs:Its not like everyone who attends football matches have tourettes! They aren't shouting it constantly. Personally I think a bit of industrial language doesn't hurt anyone!
I mean where would we be without the industrial revolution??i understand what your saying, but how do we measure what is enough swearing in a match - is it 1 swear word a min.
im not saying we cannot swear - all im saying how can you say someone swears too much when we cannot measure itoh, so if we can't measure it, lets just swear as much as we want. Stop making excuses, clean up your act, and make WHL a great place for everyone to go to.
some people swearing is human nature - ie they dont even know its swearing.
im saying people should make an effort to stop - but if a decison does not go your way, its hard not to pop out a swear word.
H liked the interview, without sounding like a brown noser, I couldn't really disagree with anything you said.
I thought you'd sound a bit more of a geezer though.
Talking of geezers, where's the Tanner interview?
This swearing argument is going round in fuc*ing circles! Lets just stop it.
Those of you who hate it, carry on hating it, but accept that its not going to stop.
Those of you who like it, go open a window, take a deep breath then let out a massive rendition of your favourite obscenity. It will make you feel better!
Reply to The Cockney:
Reply to Nunchucks:Reply to thfcwaynethfc:Reply to The Cockney:Hypocritical nonsense!
Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow..."This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."
there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.You picked out the wrong paragraph.
This is the money shot right here:
"The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried...To Nunchucks,
What is it you don't agree with about the statement about Israel. Are you disputing what I wrote, so then let's discuss it, you make your case and allow me to divulge some facts but don't just assume whenever anyone questions anything about Israel that they don't have a...
This is a footbal forum and not a political one so why start with the debate about Israel.
I know that the last few days have been boring with the endless discussing on Comolli but i'm sure we can find some more relevant to the club to discuss than this...
Reply to chuckles:
Reply to The Cockney:Reply to Nunchucks:Reply to thfcwaynethfc:Reply to The Cockney:Hypocritical nonsense!
Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow..."This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."
there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.You picked out the wrong paragraph.
This is the money shot right here:
"The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried...To Nunchucks,
What is it you don't agree with about the statement about Israel. Are you disputing what I wrote, so then let's discuss it, you make your case and allow me to divulge some facts but don't just assume whenever anyone questions anything about Israel that they don't have a...This is a footbal forum and not a political one so why start with the debate about Israel.
I know that the last few days have been boring with the endless discussing on Comolli but i'm sure we can find some more relevant to the club to discuss than this...![]()
it wasnt really discussing,
i was getting bullied 
Reply to TMWNN:
H liked the interview, without sounding like a brown noser, I couldn't really disagree with anything you said.
I thought you'd sound a bit more of a geezer though.![]()
Talking of geezers, where's the Tanner interview?
I was expecting HH to sound like a modern day cockney Cholmley Warner. Or like Alf Ramsey, you know, he knew he wasn't posh but tried to sound it anyways. No offence HH.
Reply to chuckles:
Reply to The Cockney:Reply to Nunchucks:Reply to thfcwaynethfc:Reply to The Cockney:Hypocritical nonsense!
Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow..."This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."
there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.You picked out the wrong paragraph.
This is the money shot right here:
"The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried...To Nunchucks,
What is it you don't agree with about the statement about Israel. Are you disputing what I wrote, so then let's discuss it, you make your case and allow me to divulge some facts but don't just assume whenever anyone questions anything about Israel that they don't have a...This is a footbal forum and not a political one so why start with the debate about Israel.
I know that the last few days have been boring with the endless discussing on Comolli but i'm sure we can find some more relevant to the club to discuss than this...![]()
Israelites! Now if we could get a chant going to the tune of the Desmond Dekkers "the israelites" that would be good! lol
Reply to HornchurchYids:
Reply to Nunchucks:Reply to thfcwaynethfc:Reply to The Cockney:Hypocritical nonsense!
Your all a bunch of closet racists, trying to shape the mood of real fans. We sing what we like, you want to change society then do something about this failed excuse for a culture and society which rewards evil deeds and stands for nothing less than the slow..."This country is an institution of racism. It's rife in the Air force, Army, Police Force, practically every institution of this land hides behind a veil of racism."
there is racism all over the world - does not mean I have to particpate in it.You picked out the wrong paragraph.
This is the money shot right here:
"The Zionist supporting individuals of this club are inherently racist, this includes the hierarchy of this club, who by their support for the state of Israel are responsible for the genocide carried...Nunchucks
Your spiteful comment belittling people with developmental disorders takes the sting out of your argument too I'm afraid.
I'm a hypocrite. Sue me.
Reply to jamiespurs:
peterridsdale
Will you please stop with this incessant 'clean up your act' campaign. I'm not saying every other word is a swear word OR that its perfectly acceptable to swear all the time, I think you have to realise that in certain pressure moments, like at a football match people...
Here is why I have turned into Mary Whitehouse. I am embarrassed by what my so-called fellow fans did at Pompey and I want it to stop, and I want the silent majority of Spurs fans to want it to stop as well. Too many of you seem to think that provided our chants are not racist or homophobic then it is open house. It is not.
Reply to billybigspud:
Reply to The Cockney:No you don't have to sing along but whose to say anyone can stop anyone else from singing what is essentially a release at a football match against a rival player who has wronged the club.
If you look closely then you will realise this is an engineered plan in order to make draconian...I prefer the carrot to the stick, only in your case i'm not sure where i'd want to shove it.
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To Fatknacker,
You see there you go being all insulting when I thought you may have said something intelligent to be able to argue your case.
I say make your point, debate, be offensive if you must but say something substantial and of substance, don't just talk from the wrong end because that's just ignorant.
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I think its time we left the Adebayor one alone as well.
Call a c*nt a c*nt is what i say, but this sort of stuff is asking for trouble....
Interesting that none of the hacks (that i read anyway) picked up on the "Yids" category on our playlist.
Exactly right.
And what's more, if he wants the furore to die down, all he has to do is apologise for his defection. Acknowledge the fans he deceived, betrayed and scorned. Say that it was an ill-advised action and the he shouldn't have lied about hsi intentions.
If he did, I'm sure the majority of fans would allow him some measure of dignity. Some may even find it in their hearts to forgive him and start treating him as a player who did well for us while here was at WHL.
Stop whining Campbell! Put your hands up and admit what you did, instead of hiding behind Harry's skirts.