Who Do You Blame - At The Lane?
Monday, 12 January 09, 07:29 PM · Comments (287)
Let's for one blog anyway, turn our blunted instruments, sharp objects and thoughts to our illustrious the management team.
Jol's armory consisted of a kind glance over Hught's clipboard and a kindly spare fag for the first lad back after a few laps of the training pitch.
Wendy's regime was ...er regimented. Double everything bar the custard. Cow & Gate's takings tripled during his reign.
Arry arrived with his elasticated waist under his armpits, a cry of Ich bin ein Berliner! and a catering sized ketchup under his arm.
Now we have Arry, Bondy, Parksy, Big Joe, Leslie and when he'a free, Timmy. Supposedly a melting pot of common sense and everyday straightforward footballing logic.
Where has it gone wrong? Why does the communication collapse? Who isn't earning their end of that £50 Arry famously had to split? This blog is you driven so I'll let you get stuck in.
My big concern is Ferdinand. This guy has stood out there with the shirt on his back. I listened to him on Setanta a few weeks ago. He rather hesitantly 'broached' the subject of service and supply to the forwards.
Watching Defoe against Wigan was like going back in time. No service and little suggestion of any.
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It's the majority of the fuckin workshy players that are to blame. Jol / Ramos / Redknapp. Does it really matter who is in charge when we have some players who just don't give a shit.
I blame Joe Jordan for not playing on Sunday.
He surely would have injured the majority of the Wigan players or decapitated the referee and forced a replay.
It's the programme sellers fault
players. Full Stop.
Alot of our players think they are better than they actually are. They think they have made "it" when they sign for Spurs (whatever "it" is i'm not too sure??). You only have to look at our results against the top4 teams to see that.Our players raise their game to "prove" how good they could be. Its exactly the same when we play so-called weaker teams - their players raise their games to "prove" the same thing.
Basically, what i'm trying to say is we are f*cked
Reply to he's a yiddo:
so true haha
Commoli and levy, nuff said
Its my fault I get the blame for everything around here, so why not get the blame for a workshy lazy brunch of so called Tottenham players.
I blame us fans for putting so much pressure on the millionaires who wear the shirt week in week out without passion.
I blame us fans for thinking that we have a club steeped in history and glory.
I blame us fans for thinking that we are a club big enough to compete with europes elite. It must be really tough for these players arriving with reputations and £15m + price tags (we have 5 of those at the moment would you beleive).
This top level league in England is unique to the fact that aside from Chelsea and Man Utd, the rest are quite evenly matched, so when your out on that pitch 110% is a minimum requirement to scrape a result.
What we have at our club are players giving 110% at other clubs looking for their dream move. They get it at "Soft" Spurs and then relax. It is not good enough.
*End of Rant*
Now that I think about it there is a paper or thesis for somebody in that;
"The Tottenham Syndrome" - believing oneself to be better than they actually are resulting in eternal mediocrity
Levy...he's had 7 years and we are still in a mess.
It's the same squad of players who drew 4-4 with scum, 0-0 with Manure, beat scousers 2-1, beat spammers 2-0, so it MUST be the players. They're alla bunch of bertie big bollocks who believe the hype written about themselves. Time to graft out a couple of boring 1-0 victories; points on the board is needed. It's blatantly obvious it's the players faults and believing the hype, when the pricks keep coming out and saying we can still finish top 4! Pricks.
Oh and Modric CAN NOT play central midfield; that was proved AGAIN yesterday.
Arry was perfect 10 years ago when he was first linked with the top job. We are old school boys club British set up. He will buy some edgy players who can make an impact in the EPL. I feel Jol was perfectly suited to our club and a great manager who did not have any backing or trust. Saying that if you look at Jol's team there were some very average players but the squad and formation worked around Carrick Davids and some great strikers. Atouba, Diesel, Tainio, Chimi, Naybet, Edmen etc. Our current squad is worth 100's of million but collectively toilet...
Players. There are many that show no urgency. From back-tracking to even throw-ins. There is no movement and too many of them switch off far to often. We see far to often: Lennon sulks when it doesn't go right, Bentley isn't willing to give it, Jenas goes missing, Huddlestone loses weight and gains it all back? Bale thinks pace will help out his non-existent positional sense. We need grafters, we need those willing to fight for the crest on their shirts. We need players with big-balls.
....and to those who blame Levy, for constantly backing successive mangers to the tune of however many millions and whose interest is in nothing but the club, I say - fuck off.
The blame lies mostly with the players. Their lack of effort and desire is shocking and bewildering.
Most frustrating sight in football: watching a Spurs midfielder lose possession cheaply and then make only a half-hearted attempt to win it back.
Reply to thaispurs on the floor:
Also Arnesen made some horrendous signings and it really looks amazing how much Chelsea paid for him. In fact one could blame Arnesen and therefore the Yid army for Chelsea's entire self destruction. Frank really pissed Jose off and signed plenty of rubbish which slowly unbalanced and upset the balance of the club. Quite nice really when you think about it and gives us a good chance courtesy of the credit crunch to get lucky and take Chelsea on.
Easier to say who fault it ISN'T:
Gomes
O'Hara
Woodgate
Dawson
Defoe (yet)
LACL OF STRIKERS MIDFIELDERS AND DEFENDERS BASICALY WE NEED SOME NEW QUALITY PLAYERS
Reply to DANNYBOY:
Agree completely. The way we always raise our game against the big 4 demonstrates perfectly the lack of passion and effort in other games.
The players should be a-fucking-shamed of themselves.
*lack
Wayne Rooney has made it - he is a top footballer, has millions in the bank and plays for one of the worlds top 3 clubs. Yet the desire and workrate he showed against Chelsea puts our players to shame. It means so much to him to win - something our players lack - only O'Hara & Dawson show a spark of real aggression and desire. The old saying that you have to earn the right to play is true and sadly most Spurs players haven't the desire to win that right.
Secondly our players seem to have lost confidence again and against physical teams the battle seems lost before the match kicks off, Modric was brushed aside by Wigan's midfield, Bale's loss of form and ability is shocking, Zokora is, was and will always be useless - a lot of running and falling over but thats it. Also our forwards seem unwilling to close down defenders like Wigan's forwards did.
Solution - more new signings - loads of them.
I blame the lasagne.
Anyone blaming the chairman or previous directors of football - waste of space though they were - is implying that the current squad is a 'bottom 3' squad. Which is utter nonsense. There's plenty of quality in the squad, they just need to start f******* pulling their finger out.
in the main youve got to blame the players but for sundays result redknapp has to take the blame. i know our 2 games before that had been against average sides but to change a winning formation just to suit ledley king was a joke. i feel for ledley with the injuries but we have to go with dawson and woodgate and leave ledley on the bench, good footballer or not im fed up with the team being changed just to suit one player
Reply to DANNYBOY:
Love you man
Reply to tottenhamtony:
Damn straight. He might lose his head a bit sometimes but you can't fault Rooney's commitment and desire. Stephen Gerrard is another one - a shining example of what we're lacking in midfield. Not just in ability, but in drive, passion and leadership.
Reply to DANNYBOY:
To be fair its not just about giving managers lots of money. Its about getting the right person in and giving that person enough time to build a legacy, something which levy has never done, hence the reason we are in the shit.
The players just don't put it in and haven't done for a long time, just for a good few years we have had a couple who have carried the rest, now we don't even have that. If you keep players like Jenas and even make him captain you are asking for trouble.
Harry has made us no better, he doesn't seem to be able to get across to the players, can anyone tell me what the plan was yesterday?
Spurs have a soft midfield..what's new? I think Harry has seen JJ for what he is, (thank christ) and he won't be playing much if we take Appaih on. We need a couple of grafters in there, JJ and Bentley are just daydream about getting forward and Zokora, for all his effort, offers litte end product. Keep O'Hara in there, the boy WANTS to play in the first team and to earn his place...plus he can cross and shoot. A bit of steel in the midfield from players who have something to prove and we'll be looking ok.
Reply to tottenhamtony:
Agree totally, when you see Spurs players in action you are hard pressed to see players running full tilt to close players down. The Rooney thing is absaloutley true, you can see his drive. The biggest problem that Spurs face is that the "Winning mentality" which exists at Man U etc is clearly missing at SPurs. This is a cultural failure Since the 90's within the club which I BELIVE Harry knows all to well. Soft underbelly is what we have at the lane and only a change of personnel can change this.
Not all our players are not 100% at it, but most are not running at full tilt.
Reply to breadbin:
You could probably combine that with (is it) Stockholm Syndrome - to accommodate our support
Reply to onedavemackay:
'We've a problem with a few insurgents Sgt Mjr.'
'It's alright, we're dropping Dannyboy on 'em at 2030hrs, sir.'
The fault lies fairly and squarely with Lord Alan Sugar. In the mid-1990's, there was a window of opportunity to be ahead of the curve and establish the club as a top 4 champions league team. While Sugar was fooling around with Gerry Francis, Christian Gross, and Chris Armstrong, the Woolwich Arsenal were getting into bed with Bergkamp and Wenger. Before, we knew it, the window was slammed shut and only the cash of a Russian zillionaire could ever open it.
Since that time, the deck has been stacked against Levy. He has done as much as we could expect a man to do but his one chance of breaking into the top 4 has been to appoint a modern day Brian Clough. The nearest version was snapped by up Aston Villa. We can question his judgement in appointing Santini, Comolli, Ramos etc, but we cannot question his effort to succeed.
Therefore, Sugar's lack of foresight means we are now institutionalized as a mid-table "under-performing" club. Some years we may flirt with the top 4, other years we may win a trophy, and periodically we will become embroiled in a relegation battle only to escape at the death with a run of victories which we will lead us all to proclaim that we are now set for a run at the top 4 the following season.
While we continue to delude ourselves that we are a "big club" who should be in the top 4 every year, we will continue to spend big money on mediocre players. In the absence of new investors from the Middle East, the only way forward is to stop spending GBP 15 million on strikers like Defoe (who spent most of his previous spell at the Lane either on the bench or offside) and invest the funds in actually getting good kids through the academy and into the first team.
i blame the tea lady !!
I blame the grammar school boys from the bible class at All Hallows Church.
Reply to carlosspurs:
Bada bing.
Rooney is a monied cave man with little regard for much.
Be he wants the ball more than a child wants it's mother.
The fight in that man is ferocious.
We can barely muster the threat of minor tiff.
I've always been a bit iffy about the shouty Scotsman, is it 'cause 'Arry doesn't like giving a rollocking on the pitch but saves it for the last minute in the dressing room?
I have the confidence that we'll not be the next Leeds/Chorlton and the Wheelies but only just. I don't think getting rid of all the old school hopefuls mid season will help.
'Arry, keep your gently cockney arm around the shoulders of our limp midfield and make sure we don't end up in a position where we have to lose all of our talent come the Summer...
Peas.
Reply to 1kashola:
Now we're cooking. Name names
Its no one person(s) fault. Yes some are more culpable than others but they are all part of what appears to be sadkly rotten to the core.
It's not Harry's fault but I hope he is still not apportioning blame come April or worse still May 24th (my birthday and all I hope for is Premiership safety and a Wii).
Mostly to blame is COMMOLI. The worse use of a cheque book since Blankety Blank. On the whole poor players with what now appears to be a poor mentality. Did he never ask ofanyone including himself, "do you think the player can mix it on a cold Sunday in Wigan", not on yesterday's showing. The guy was effectively a scout but clearly never though about the balance of the team in terms of tactics or mentality.
LEVY - I am not doubting the financial backing he is giving the club but he may well have been blind in the handing over of cash for average players (Jenas, Bentley etc etc) not just in transfer fees but wages. Are wages performance based. Doesn't appear to be? Maybe I am doing him an injustice but he presided over some poor players, average managers and Sporting Directors and the leadership must come from the top. I do believe his dispensing of the previous management structure is correct but I just hope its not too late.
PLAYERS - Ultimately they are the ones who produce the results but when you are on £60k a week do you really want to risk getting hurt. I know I would but they are not supporters like me. I know Bentley is a supporter but with that money burning a whole in my sky rocket why would I want to work hard?
MODERN FOOTBALL: With the same top 4 going for the big prize and the rewards that go with it, our players may feel that challenging for the premiership is dead rubber and why cups are more appealing. A sad endictment and one I could discuss adnauseam.
Glad I got that off my chest.Thanks for use of your psychiatrists couch Harry. Im off to watch Jack Bauer now. If only he had a decent left peg. Just what we need at WHL!
COYS
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Henry Percy
we need some steel and attitude in the main with exciting interplay when
attacking and sound defence positioning etc .....all consistent week in week out........what struck me was tthe amount of 50-50 passes not to the feet and meaning we put ourselves under pressure........
tidy football and shelve ineffective play.the players should show more tenacity and determination when it really matters.......
they need all the support we can muster from the remaining season....
it is going to be a battle so cmon u spurs ....!!
pull your sox up!!!!!
Glad you bought this one up Harry. There's obviously more than one culprit but here are my main views. Firstly, why are we playing Zokora over Huddleston?? Retain the ball is the most important thing in midfield, not some dick who can give it duracell for 90 mins but can't pass a ball 15 meters, can tackle but then needlessly gives the ball away again & can shoot his load but nothing else. Can't stand Jenus, but even he I would have preferred to Zok yesterday. That Lazy fooker Bale can absolutely get f*cked & out of our club if thats the level of effort he wants to put in. I was ashamed at watching him trudge slowly behind Heskey as he ran into our box yesterday, absolutely discusted me tbh. He's supposed to be taking advantage of ekotto's ban, joke. I want to go on but don't have time, I don't blame Pav or Def yest, no supply what they supposed to do. Focused too much on shutting them down, instead of playing our own game.... Negative & disappopinting. That's my moan out the way anyways! Long long season, Mancs are gonna trash us twice, so no one get carried away, cos we certainly won't be winning in euroipe at this rate either!!!!
The damage was done I believe when 5th place just wasn't good enough for the board. Jol took us to places we hadn't been to in a long while and when the share holders (if they are to blame) demanded a bigger pot of gold, UEFA wasn't the Champions league with all the trimmings.
Employ Arsenal reject number 1 ( Comoli) buy sick notes, Exit Jol...up set the apple cart....bring in Wendy.....lose lots of confidence.....ask lots of questions like - "what did he say" and "wheres the fu*king ketchup?.".... lose lots of games.....exit PSB and Berba-dross....sell lots of players that we can't do without .... End up so stressed we lose most of our teeth....enter Arry.....make do with the falll out of the past 3 seasons.
.....season, sprinkle with bullshit, place in the oven for 3 seasons at gas mark panic, serve with humble pie and a pint of "whoops"
Job Done
i think the ONE positive of us getting relegated(which will happen if things dont change). is we get to offload the crap aka
:
zokora, bently, jenas
then we can build are team around players that want to play for this club and want to win
Reply to The Offside Trap:
That was great. I'll waive my fees on this occasion
Reply to James147:
we don't know how to score! Our midfielders are not brilliant and cannot consistently create chances for our strikers. But why didn't we have this problem last season. Last season we got Berb and Keane who didn't rely too much on midfielders. We need someone who can connect back to front like Keane. I don't understand why we keep buying similar type of players. What we need is to improve our scoring ability. It 's simple, when you can't score and error 's always there, you LOSE!!!
Reply to peterridsdale:
Was this not the time that spurs had just been floated on the stock market (thanks scholar you bumhole) and we were nearly bankrupt?
I was young at the time but my memory serves that sugar saved us financially from the mess that sholar made (and he did the same to forest) - is he not the real villian of the piece?
The current team is a mish mash of players from different managers!! We need ONE manger to be given the chance to build a team. Its hard to blame Levy as he has provided the finance to each appointed manager. Certain players have taken the piss out of our club and continue to do so. Redknapp is a good short term measure, but to build the club up i am not sure. I hope i am wrong as i long for stability and hope as much as any spurs fan
Reply to DANNYBOY:
i believe i am agreeing with you wholeheartedly - what next - DZ to score a thirty yard screamer in the cup final?
COYS
we don't know how to score! Our midfielders are not brilliant and cannot consistently create chances for our strikers. But why didn't we have this problem last season. Last season we got Berb and Keane who didn't rely too much on midfielders. We need someone who can connect back to front like Keane. I don't understand why we keep buying similar type of players. What we need is to improve our scoring ability. It 's simple, when you can't score and error 's always there, you LOSE!!!
Reply to HornchurchYids:
me finks the gaffers tactics is a bit boring.same old formation n lineup..same old players,,,,,boring
Reply to calebray:
The reason you don't recogniise him - this is 'DB -Black Ops'.
You can say that on the BBC?
2 Things worry me about rednapp.
1. How did he manage to only take a team with ferdinand, carrick, cole, lampard, defoe to 10th place best finish at west ham?
2. He's already pointing the finger at anbody he can for results, chairman for putting the squad togrther, players for not trying. Didnt here him blame anybody else for the good results when he first came in.
When Poyet was here - he fronted up to every interview after games, never blamed anybody else - he took responsibility.
That was a massive loss loosing someone of his integrity.
Reply to bornspur:
Not entirely in disagreement, but I would say we've strikers who have been living on scraps and are hungrier than a Pikey's dog.
The players must take responsibility for their actions on the pitch. The problem is that most of them don't, at least not on a consistent basis, and it is consistency that underlines quality. We have many so called quality players, perhaps too many - but not enough ordinary grafters/fighters - and the irony is that I bet most of them, if asked, would not think they are doing anything less than expected. We are in deep doo doo here people. No one will just "roll over" beacause we are Tottenham from The Lane - I believe that we will just scrape through this season and save ourselves, but I only have hope to pin that aspiration on. Hope and a prayed for decline of at least 3 other teams who will pick up less points than us! As to the future - big clear out rebuild the squad with the balance we have all been craving for.
Reply to YidArmy:
That's what prompted this particular blog, sir. Questions have to asked now of the management team.
We all new that our lot needed shaping up.
That's why we brought you and your miracle men in, Arry.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
GGGRRRRRRRRRR
Harry's not quite the messiah then.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
.... and wouldn't we love a couple of Rooneys. I look forward to the day when Spurs are in the papers for players being sent off, courting contoversy, for all the wrong reasons!
the fact we started the season with just bent upfront could be a fact of why we are in this particular little mess....
berba-i think everyone knew he was going to go
psb-we could of dug our heels in...like villa with barry....but £20m is alot of dosh...
i blame the guy who greenlighted the sale of malbranque,tainio and to a lesser extent chimbonda....not great players but they grafted for us and tainio was a yid.....and
i still for the life of me can't think why we sold them.....
As the squad was assembled and controlled over the last 2 or 3 years by the Fat Frenchman and it was he who pushed for Jol out and Ramos in I think he has to take most of the blame for the current plight.
I think too few on this blog are taking notice of what Arry's been saying. He has stated quite clearly that we have an unbalanced squad, we are short of grafters and avoiding the drop is one hell of a job. So it strikes me that he at least knows what needs to be done. There are undoubted improvements since Arry arrived such as the appointment of Tony Parks, compare that with the Robbo fiasco.
Now lets look at the facts.
The 10 sides at the bottom of the Prem are separated by 5 points.
Stoke, West Brom, Blackburn, Portsmouth and Boro all have a goal difference of -12 or worse ours is -6 and that includes our first 8 games.
Our form since Arry came along if projected over the next 18 games would have us on 44 points and that assumes that we don't improve under Arry's management.
Of course we are in danger of going down but I think most sane unemotional neutrals would bet against it.
In Henry James Redknapp I trust.
Stay cool
Drink more Port
Reply to HarryHotspur:
DB - Black Ops - Only if it is the new drama by andy mcnabb - Saturday primetime starring Bernard Manning digitally remastered
Reply to calebray:
You are correct. Mr Sugar did put the club back on a secure footing (and eventually sold at a nice profit). However, the key point is that he deemed the Bergkamp transfer as a sign of madness which would signal a financial meltdown for football. He may have been well-intentioned, but he was proved wrong. David Dein and Alan Sugar were on either side of the argument at that time, and Dein was correct.
The reason why WWII broke out was due to bad decisions made directly after WWI. The reason why we are consistently crap is not due to Jenas, or Zokora, or Gomes, or Levy, but due to Sugar. He should have joined the League of Nations, but instead went his own way.
I have a theory! See what you think of this. I feel that outside the top-4 Spurs are seen as a glamorous club. i think players who are not good enogh to make the top teams see Spurs as the next best thing, they like to see it on their CV. "Look at me I played for a club who has had players like Ardiles, Greaves, gazza, Hoddle, Waddle, a team who was the 1st British club to win the domestic league & cup double and the 1st British club to win a European trophy and until the mid 90s had won the FA Cup more than any other club" Therefore we get players who ain't got what it takes and are happy with that and then we wonder why it don't work out. Well it has!!!! Its worked out for those individuals claiming huge wages and fees from the Club. Well i say get lost the lot of you, don't use spurs so you can tell your grandkids you once played for a great club. People like Jenas, Bale, Bentley, Defoe, Downing(No wonder he wants to come to Spurs - fits into my theory perfectly), Corluka they DO NOT CARE...... Drop them Harry and get them as far away from OUR club as possible, they are embarrassing Super Spurs. A whole new generation of kids are growong up seeing Spurs as a laughing stock who win nothing, Well I've had enough. GET SOME HEART BACK IN OUR TEAM. I was at Wembley when Gazza almost wrecked the fencing trying to get to us fans to share OUR DAY the day we humiliated Arsenal. Justin Edinburgh going in on Lee Dixon so hard I think it was his screams that Kevin Davies could still hear the other day. Where is the fight, I ain't seen it for best part of 20 years. Harry I hope you get time as long as you throw the SHI*E OUT NOW and save our club..... All we need is heart and Jenas you would make a cracking lion in the Wizard of Oz......
Didier Zokora.
I blame him.
Reply to calebray:
I'll have some of that son; even better if it's the winner
Reply to KOJAC:
We are STILL talking to that lot about loaning him back, you know......
or the mentality.
If you go into a game without victory as the aim then losing is a very real possibility.
Reply to JonSpurs:
There is No positive to being relegated.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
you seem to have a strange fixation with me tonight Mr Hotspur
Reply to DANNYBOY:
He's subbing for Bimmi
Reply to onedavemackay:
Is his real name Henry?
Our 'Enry?
Splash it all over.
But don't spill the port, of course
As the name implies am working hard (ish) sadly Haven't got time to read all the replies.
My take... The midfield.. For too ong now the emphasis has been placed on the strikers for lack of goals.. Players (Bent) not deemed good enough ! Well strikers can only rely on the sevice they get for the majority of their goals. I dont think our midfiled is good enough. Have never rated Jenas and yesterdays performance only reinforces my opinion of him. Zokora.. Just isn't Prem class. Lennon great going forward final ball i poor.. Bentley... needs to be played on the right not the left to get something decent out of him. Modric is starting to show signs but as with all new players to the EPL needs at least one season to bed in.
One last thing, the team need to play to it's strengths... I favour 4-4-2 Harry, as did Ramos keeps changing the team formation which leads to even more confusion IMO. Injury and suspension aside playing the same 11 week in week out to allow players to get an understanding with one another wouldn't go a miss either....
Are we ever going to see Modric & Thudd paired up the middle again? Spurs were 2-0-1 with them together, and scored 8 goals in those 3 matches. That was the best run of form 'arry has had as a coach, but he hasn't put them out together again. The setup in the 2nd half against Burnley was also terrific, but I have this bad feeling we will never see that lineup again either. I continue to be dismayed at our coaches inability or unwillingness to keep our winning lineups together.
Reply to DANNYBOY:
Just admiring your 'they don't like it up'em style', mate.
Not stalking, sorry -
Reply to DANNYBOY:
Maybe he likes talking to muppets!!
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Let's face it, they're all cunts
Everyone!
We need to stop signing 'names' and flavour of the month types and start buying players that fit the system the manager wants to play. Who had heard of Palacios or Valencia but they showed up our motley crew yesterday
Reply to YidArmy:
...and you can fuck off an' all...
I blame myself. I have been in this abusive relationship for decades. I have spent my money (pocket money and wages) and I've given countless Saturday afternoons to a team that has let me down so many times. Over and over I am given promises that it will get better soon. Every so often there are fleeting moments of joy. That's what keeps me going. I love it and I can't leave it.
Two words: Damien Commolli. He didn't have a clue in the transfer market: Boateng, Gilberto, Assou-Ekotto, Bentley, Bent, Pavlychenko, Bale, etc the list goes on and he sold Steeeeeeeed, Keane and Berba - excellent players. We have too many girls who pivot about the pitch trying to play fancy footie and not enough gritty, tackling, no-shite taking nasties so we are lightweight and outmuscled and our strikers get no service. Time to stop playing fancy passes and WIN UGLY!!!
Reply to HarryHotspur:
do you mean chimbonda...?
Reply to DANNYBOY:
Ill give you this, you do take critisism well mate!!
It's Levy's fucking fault. Forget the coaches, forget the players, it all stems from when Levy sold Carrick behind Jol's back. From that point onwards came the slide. Martin Jol was heads and shoulders our best manager since Tel, and Levy treated him like a little clogged bitch. If Jol was given the freedom in the transfer market as Harry is now, and we'd have kept hold of Carrick, and shown the ambition that would have tempted players like berbie to stay, we'd be so far ahead of the woolwich now that it doesn't bare thinking about. yes Jol couldn't make a sub to save his life but we've never come close to the performances against united and arsenal at the end of the 2005/06 season.
Levy's a money man and we'll be sold as soon as that stadiums built. on a business level he's been superb, and perhaps in the current climate that's something to be praised, but fuck him forever for how he treated martin.
Bednar - you are having a laugh!!
Reply to Yid at work:
agree
A number of factors seem attributable to our recently resurfaced underachievement. To me, one issue persists, though, regardless of manager, chairman, system, etc.: Our central midfield lacks quality and leadership!!!!!!!!!!!
No price can be placed on a boy who possesses skill, strength, the ability to link play - in all areas to all areas - while also being a leader who pushes the others and sets an example in training and during matches. In other words, I would happily trade Zokora, Jenas, Bentley, Ghaly, plus cash to get Gareth Barry. I'm sure he won't come and if so, he'll likely start playing like shit, but it's a start.
At first I thought one of the guys in my vicinity at the game was shouting 'wanker', then I realised he was shouting 'want it!' Players so utterly devoid of desire, the fans need to remind them to have some.
Gomes, Defoe, King, Dawson and O'Hara took some time at the end to clap the fans in a thank you. Others buggered off.
In case you were wondering who’s to blame for Tottenham current league position , I’ve created a list to keep track. Feel free to add any that I’ve missed.
1. The Players
2. Joe Jordan for not playing
3. The program seller
4. Commoli
5. Levy
6. Kent spur
7. The Fans
8. Capitalism
9. Frank Arnesen
10. The lasagna
11. Harry Redknapp
12. Stockholm Syndrome
13. Alan Sugar
14. The tea lady
15. The school boys from the bible class at All Hallows Church
16. Henry Percy
17. Shakespeare
18. Modern Football
19. Zokora
20. Bale
21. 5th place
22. Bentley
23. Jenas
24. Not scoring!
25. Irvin scholar
26. The stock market
27. The whole squad
28. Tactics
29. A lack of port
30. Everyone!
31. Bruce Castle
I'd like to blame matchday officials and a stacked fixture list also, while we're at it.
There's gotta be something else?
Looks like it's a nasty battle with me and everone else for relegation.
I blame us. To be more exact I blame ambition and expectations beyond the club's ability to deliver. We see ourselves as a "big club" a "sleeping giant" that needs to be awakened with a prod to take our rightful place among the elite. We've tried to quickly assemble a side to challenge the best by buying reputations rather than players. We've been impatient with their development and so buy more and then more again. We should have given them chosen manager less budget and asked for a generic and sustainable growth.
It has been shown that Jol temprorarily succeeded then stumbled and was replaced. New manager more new players, temporary improvement then Ramos stumbles and is replaced with 'Arry. Instant improvement followed quickly by a return to dross. Harry is right the squad is unbalanced. Too many luxuries not enough solid graft. We can only hope he can somehow galvanise this lot into an outfit who can keep us up then it's clearout time. Maybe we will have learned our lesson and aspire for top half of the table for a season or two before we look higher. We need to get the right type of players in and keep them long enough to feel like Spurs players have some afinty to the club instead of their wallets. If success comes earlier fantastic but we can't go on spending zillions on unknown quantities who fail to deliver.
Reply to BruceCastle:
Right, we've got one of 'em.
GETINTHEBACKOFTHEVAN!
Now look what you've done! I've gone and spilled half a bottle of unadultrated child's piss.
We are so soft, a feather would fall into a coma if it touched us.
I blame Levy for never facing up to the fact that King was finished and rather than replace him, burden every manager with a one game in three defender and secondly for never controlling the exit of Berbatov and thus replacing him in a panic.
Finally I blame him for allowing Redknapp to bring in too many generals, all of which are second raters (or like King are part-timers), when he had Allen and Ingelthorpe ready made to step fully up to the plate.
Bond and Jordan. What have they ever done? They are not Tottenham people. Especially Jordan, its all gone tits up since he turned up.
IT'S BERBATOV'S FAULT, LADS
Reply to steve:
Exactly, we change our league side & cup sides just to accomidate King,and even though he is quality and is a legend who filled Sols boots and some we cant,( and should ) stop building our side around him, I also worry that although we indeed do have some quality players their patience run out and we end up being a selling club and our best are Top Four bound cause they desire top footie and ultimatley winners medals and as a amatuer player myself ( goalie ) know how important a consistent back 4 is
Why are supposed fans of football so quick to jump into bed with moneyman Levy? Read the FT instead!!
I don't give a toss how much money he invests, that's a given, the whole POINT is for us mugs to pay our money, buy our shirts and food and then it gets reinvested in the team.
You guys are cosying up to Levy like that's something SPECIAL?!?
Holy shit, it's not as if he does anything revolutionary to make the club money, his business nous extends to
"pump up the matchday prices beyond inflation", "make four kits in one season",
and most crucially
"BUY PLAYERS YOUNG AND/OR CHEAP AND SELL THEM OFF AT A DIZZYING PROFIT, WHATEVER CRIPPLING IMPACT IT HAS ON THE FOOTBALL"
Let's not forget his number 1 achievement, sacking a coach that delivered the best results in a decade, hiring a manager who could not talk English with a dubious record bar 1 club, giving him carte blanche and them distancing himself from the whole affair and sacking everybody.
A captain goes down with his ship, a lot of the posters here demand commitment from the players, but clearly Levy does not show commitment and stand or fall by his decisions.
The man runs a football club well, big deal- taking money from such passionate fans as Spurs is blessed with is akin to candy from a baby.
Ramos for me.
He got us into this by continually changing the team and playing odd formations."You don't know what your doing"
It's been catch up ever since.
Harry turned it around but now we have had a dip in form (which isn't unusual for most teams). But because we were so far behind to start off were back down amongst the dead men again.
I have assembled a line up. Did any of these men commit the stated offense?
we have to remember where we were when harry took over....bottom...2 points...remember the jokes....hadn't won a game....and slipping away
we are only 2 places better off....but have to give harry a chance and get behind him and the lads....let's see what he does in the window before we all start crapping our pants...
Reply to Chump Windbag:
What do you want Levy to do? Pull out his check book more? Keep managers on dangerously sinking ships?
I think Redschnapps got the selection wrong on Sunday - he should have played Thudd & Lennon from the start - without these 2 are forwards don't get any service what on earth was Pav doing out on the left wing?
Otherwise it's all Commoli's fault & Levy for backing him. Let's hope Arry gets a decent central midfielder and left winger this month.
If not I'm beginning to think will look good next season...in the championship!! - look how we stuffed Burnley 4-1!!
levy should never have sacked jol end off
Reply to pualo de puablo:
I agree ,here, but i feel king should be included in this as he gives 110% whenever he plays..and i would include Huddlestone. At least he tries unlike so many otheres!!
Why dont we just have a team of 7, they coulnt do any worse! maybe send in a pot of hair jel instead of Bale? Its bound to have a harder and firmer hold on the game!
Reply to BruceCastle:
that's right BC you've got the right man....i knew it was him all along.....
Reply to BruceCastle:
The fourth in from the right was definitely seen on stage at Faces Ilford, pill'd off ' 'is nut, Blud' shouting, ' 'As anyone seem me eyebrow shaver, Blud?'
Reply to Chump Windbag:
Ouch.
Reply to KOJAC:
Hey maybe the good guy got framed by the bad guy
Reply to HarryHotspur:
at least 7 of them look like they do some sort of substance abuse.....the one fourth from the right definitley needs to get some sleep....
Defoe is no great goal-scorer ...... his initial goal a game at Pompey was down to one in three at the end ..... but he is not the problem, however poor he is as far as I am concerned. Two issues: a defence that leaks periodically and unexpectedly, especially with Bale in the side, who urgently needs a refresher course in basic defending. Secondly, a midfield that creates only periodically, and surrenders when the going gets tough or the prize is not immediate. That's why we win cup games and lose league games ...... we need a few players so we can drop chumps and switch around. We need more players like Dawson and O'Hara (and Gomez) that are highly motivated and don't throw the towel in quickly. I feel that Bentley gets booed because, when the going gets tough he sends in a useless cross and disappears. There is little flexibility in the team, and very rarely do we see anyone think of alternatives when things don't work. I like Woody and Corlucca, and Pav is coming along. I wouldn'y chuck Benty, but he will get nowhere unless he gets good service. Short answer to question. EVERYONE's to blame, but mostly it's the midfield. And, if Dawson had stayed on on Sunday we would have drawn, and THAT would have been a good result.
Thanks for the opportunity to vent frustrations Harry. As for my 2 bob...
I believe there are a few factors as to why our beloved club has not progressed as it should have over the past couple years. Many have been pointed out by my fellow bloggers above.
LEVY - for experimenting with the "Continental" style of mgmt (ie. DOF in charge of signings). Arneson and Jol did work together, but this set up should've been abandoned when Frankie jumped ship.
COMMOLI - an unmitigated disaster. He was like a Gooner sent to infiltrate this club and leave it in utter shambles. A poorer squad architect you will be hard pressed to find. Too many soft "flair" players as HR has pointed out creating an unbalanced squad. Selling on grafters like Steed and Tainio in favour of the Bentley's of the world was ill-advised in hindsight.
I hope HR is given a few transfer windows by this fickle Chairman. He's a football man. He knows tactics, has an eye for talent and knows what a balanced squad should look like. Let him do his Houdini act to keep us up this year, then allow him a few summer windows to construct a winning team and create a winning belief amongst the players, before he is poached by the FA to replace Fabio!
This blame game is very interesting. I'd like to join in - because I believe I'd be quite good at it - but I suspect my talents at it are unbalanced. You might say they aren't fit for purpose, or 'proper talents'.
I'm too emotional, for a start; so, while, on one side, I can blame with a fulminating passion, I cannot complement that on the other with cold rationality. Also, I'm inclined to accuse those that I think are blameworthy without first ensuring a defence of my argument. Having said that, I admit that I'm just as likely to defend everyone from blame - because I get all philosophical about adversity, or feel guilty about charging others of wrongdoing - and fail to point the finger at anyone who genuinely deserves it.
With so many contradictions - up, down, left and right - you can imagine that my centre is seriously flabby, fluid and lacking robustness. Which leaves me quite incapable of prosecuting a winning argument either for or against in the blame game at all.
If there were a Blame League, I'd probably be relegated.
Fuck me, I can't believe the number of comments here blaming chairmen, directors of football and managers, past and present...
I'm not saying they haven't made some dodgy decisions but you've only got to ask yourself one question:
Is third from bottom the BEST you think our CURRENT squad of players is capable of?
Of course not. So the majority of the blame lies squares on the shoulders of the players.
Do you realise that amongst others we've lost to Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Portsmouth, HULL, FUCKING STOKE, Bolton, Fulham, West Brom and Wigan this season!?
And how many of those teams have got better players than Spurs? Exactly. So whose fault is our current situation?
Gomes
Ghaly
Jenas
Modric
Fraiser
Dawson
Woodgate
Bentley
Lennon
King
Harry
Levy
Was wondering about the King situation. Him having a dodgy knee an' all. Wondered about medical treatment, and medical insurance. Stuff like that.
Now I know that the aliens are in the White House, so forgive me if this seems outlandish. But are some medical insurance pay-outs occasionally contingent upon a minimum of performances by players within given time-frames?
Just curious. Because it was an eccentric formation. 4-4-2 wouldn't have surprised anyone.
Reply to 9__37:
Thank you, Sir Humphrey Appleby
Reply to James147:
I getchya.
Gerry Bleedin' Francis.
Sending a car 'round there now. We'll soon have the entire gang.
Great work everybody, keep 'em comin'.
God.
Comolli if you're an atheist.
Reply to 9__37:
Good point. I say this largely as it's a conspiracy theory I wholly subscribe to.
So far I have only whispered it into the ears of giant lizards and the readers of this blog.
I also have another theory that says those two groups aren't mutually exclusive
32. Match day officials
33. The fixture list
34. Us
35. Ambition
36. Expectation
37. Berbatov
38. King
39. Ramos
40. The entire cast of smiley faces
41. Gerry Francis
42. Aliens in the white house
43. Middlesbrough
44. Sunderland
45. Hull
46. Fucking Stoke
47. Bolton
48. Fulham
49. West Brom
50. Wigan
Reply to TommyHarmer:
Bale is clearly a fucking Jonah and we should use him as bait in a swap deal for ...anybody. He is by no means the first wunderkid to lose his footballing ability along with his teenage spots. Alun Evans (Wolves c1970), Francis Jeffers and hopefully Theo Walcott to name but three.
And I know the current vogue is to praise O'Hara but we don't need more of his type. Those fateful Sundays in May are littered with honest grafters like him crying at the thought of playing at Barnsley the following season.
We need some muscle.
Reply to Another New Coach:
Bale is a Jonah.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
We are all going to Wembley
Reply to HarryHotspur:
51. The Carling Cup
Reply to James147:
James147 - while it is obvious these players are more talented than their league position would indicate, it is equally obvious that the whole doesn't equal the sum of its parts, which is why the architects of this unbalanced squad must bear some responsibility. No?
To get to the root of the problem, the real culprit is Sir Henry George Norris (deceased).
The Black kit is the problem the players just cant see each other....
The tories...
If Gordon Brown et al can blame them still, even though they were sacked 11 years ago then we can.
Reply to BruceCastle:
agreed.......if only he'd left them where they were.....i bet he was a shapeshifter....
One thing I couldn't help thinking about was Steve Bruce. Don't get me wrong. I'm not calling him a 'thing'. I mean the man himself, and his career as a player.
He was a central defender. Like anyone who plays football, he will know what he found easy and what he found hard. In his case, those forwards and tactics that were difficult to defend against, and those that weren't. He's not a small man, that Steve Bruce; but, like most people, he probably enjoyed it less defending against big fuckers; even less against speedy ones. So, I reckon that now, being a coach, it follows naturally as night follows day that he would opt for big fuckers who know how to put it about freely to comprise his team. Because he knows what problems they can cause.
I don't know what the point of all this is. You don't need to research the opposition coach's history so much as look at his squad to learn what sort of a game you face. But we were a soft touch all over the park.
Reply to 1kashola:
Jonah and the Bale or Jonah and the Wales?
Reply to Hairy_Hotspur:
They must bear some responsibilty of course.
But the players are getting off lightly in these comments. There's been a consistent lack of commitment and desire from Spurs' players this season.
We haven't lost all those games because of an unbalanced squad, or even an unbalanced team. The team was balanced against Wigan, it just didn't show any belief, fight or energy. Wigan wanted it more, no question. And that's been the case lots of times this season.
To answer your point another way. The whole does not equal the sum of its parts, but our 'whole' should equal a lot more than the third worst team in the league. A lack of balance doesn't account for consistent apathy in our players' attitudes.
to all these stupid retarded spurs fans who blame daniel levy for all our clubs woes. think back to the days of alan sugar my friends. the days when the spurs hierarchy were happy to keep us as a top 10 side without ever showing any further ambition because that would mean having to spend big money to compete with the big boys. Daniel levy is spurs through and through and between him and our wonderful and seldomly complaining backer joe lewis we have been amongst the biggest spenders in the premier league during the last 3 or 4 years. Levy had a vision and although his choice of managers and especially director of football hasnt always been top notch at least he wants to spend money and has ambition for us. spurs bought some of the top young english talent in the game from the lower leagues and turned them into top class premier league stars (not to mention their soaring transfer values) Give the man a fucking break! Hes doing his best trying to keep the fans happy with big name signings whilst at the same time trying to satisfy our ultra generous backers by keeping the books balanced. Its not all fun and games being daniel levy let me tell you! Peace out fellow yids!
CAMPbell - I blame him. lets show our feelings at the weekend
Judging by the cartoons that have been attached in recent days, it looks like the blame rests squarely on former Australian prime minister John Howard. Lord knows, I've been blaming him for a lot of the shit that's been going down in Australia in recent years, and still am. I wouldn't be too suprised if his nasty influence has crossed the oceans and affected the confidence at WHL.
Reply to 9__37:
i like bruce....i remember when he had that altercation outside his house....and was on football focus the next day with a blackeye...god knows what happened...
but someone mentioned bramble earlier and it got me thinking bruce has done well there....titus was a laughing stock not so long ago....now they are 7th and on a good run with bramble as their rock....impressive from bruce...
*Off topic thought
After the outcome of my drinking on Friday I decided to give up drinking tonight. Myself I do like the odd glass. I can manage quite well without it. One thing though, I don't think I would enjoy is being surrounded by very drunk people when I wasn't drinking - just not my idea of fun – like tonight I decided to stay home and have a cup of tea.
Wotever happens i think we will put things right this weekend and the week gone will be all but a bad dream.......
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Surely this would only apply to a player that we had actually paid money for,we paid nothing for the ledley as a product of the academy
52. Bale the Jonah
53. Sir Henry George Norris.
54. The black kit
55. The Tories
56. Judas
57. Former Australian prime minister John Howard
Reply to 1kashola:
it was probably for the best.....not much point in being sober if everyone else is drunk.....
unles they are all women.....that is
Reply to 1kashola:
OK, I'll bite. What was the outcome of Friday night's booze up?
It better be good
Reply to Dave11:
let's hope so.....
My wife is to blame for this. Seriously. See, every team I have ever become a fan of or attached to has turned into a disaster. Growing up in Western Canada, I have been a life long Vancouver Canucks fan, a franchise that has been "just one step away" for most of their 40 year existence. I also grew up a huge Seattle Seahawks fan, which has had only one great season since I became a fan in the 80's. In college, I moved to the States to play collegiate hockey, and in my 3 seasons there, my team won all of 2 games. One was due to forfeit, when 16 of their 19 players got taken away by the SWAT team after climbing into the stands to fight with our fans. The other one, when the opposing goalie no-showed and we squeaked out a 4-3 win, despite shooting at an empty net the entire game. My son went off to college two years ago, and made the mistake of turning me into a fan of their college football team, another team with a tremendous heritage like Spurs, who then went on to a 0-12 record this season, the worst in their history.
So to my wife. In 1993 she begged me to let my son play football. Despite playing as a youth for nearly a decade, I refused, saying that my son had to play a real sport, that being hockey. Then, a few years later, she asked me to coach my daughter, and again I refused. She went ahead and signed me up without my knowledge. She told me just before the first practice, where I then planned to resign, but how could I refuse to coach this group of adorable 5 year old girls who looked at me as if I was their hero. It had been ages since I played, so I started watching EPL games on cable, watching the players and modern tactics closely so I could be a better coach, and immediately became a huge Klinsmann fan. And there, once again, my propensity for destroying teams as a devoted fan occurred again, all because my wife signed me up to coach my daughters U6 team. Sorry :-(
Reply to loozegear:
I am but a humble conspiracy theorist (2nd Class), so I couldn't say for sure.
But what I do know for sure is that you can insure ...anything.
Reply to TMWNN:
I woke up sunday morning in a strange bed, naked, with "I love cock" written on my chest in lipstick. One hell of after work house party. The apartment was empty and all the doors were locked.I had to climb out of the window to get out dressed in a make shift outfit.
My reputation and career is in ruins - the pictures appeared online.
I promised my girlfriend to quit drinking today.
Does a half a bottle of night nurse count as drinking
Reply to KOJAC:
yeah i can feel it....well i can feel something!
THE PROBLEM IS AS FOLLOWS:
some of the players are not putting it in and some are thats 1 major problem, the second is: harry redknap is making some silly decisions, i.e.yesterday for example his formation was a good idea but playing 8 defensive players was wrong thats the problem, he needs to be a bit more enthusiastic and ambitious and stop worrying too much about containing other teams, they way to contain them is by attacking them, to play fast flowing wing play with modric changing the play with through balls aswell, this will confuse the oposition, the problem is simple, i dont mind 352 and to be honest thats the only way if we are going to use modric otherwise we sell him cos thats the problem accomodating modric, but we need runners like lennon. he should have started yesterday and we should have taken the game to them just like all the big teams do not worry about containing them, let them worry about containing us.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
World Trade Center, for example.
Reply to 1kashola:
i hope you went to the doctors to get yourself checked out....
I still think we can sign Arshavin and Villa if we try, and possibly Barry Manilow.
Reply to DANNYBOY:
Levy sacked Graham ,Brought in Hoddle sacked Hoddle used Pleat as caretaker .Brought in Santini who had as much English as a new born replaced him with Jol who did reasonably well till Levy under mind him by courting Ramos with Jol still in charge .Ramos was another non English speaking coach who won a trophy I might add but could not get the shower of shite we have wasted MILLIONS on to try a leg .We now have Redknapp who is not up to it in my opinion .Levy calls the shots and dont forget it or try to defend the PLUMB
Reply to 9__37:
i think we should get david icke in as manager next october....that'll sort out the men from the boys in the dressing room....let's see how commited they are to tottenham hotspur
Reply to 9__37:
Dont talk silly...we could never sign barry manilow...
Reply to KOJAC:
Not yet, although I was thankful that my anal virginity is still intact. They were a number of gay colleagues at the party.
At least it was a woman that took advantage of my inebriated state.
Night nurse is kicking in.
Fading fast x
Night Night Tottenham x
Reply to 1kashola:
You'd have to ask Keith Chegwin that.
You may have to shout.
I actually think we're doing OK
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
I see you're still a prick AND I'm still waiting for my fucking doner
Reply to 9__37:
Good call. Afterall he does write the songs the whole world sings...
It's hard to stay angry for long. Constipation is the thief of time, but diarrhoea waits for no man.
Reply to 9__37:
There's a poor joke in there somewhere - something about having Ledders Twinned.... or twinned with Ledders....
Reply to NEIL SPURS:
just cos sugar was bad it don't make levy good. if only life was so black and white. what about the possibility that they each parellel the other as sumptious bastards of ineptitude?
Obama's better than Bush, but he's still a politician.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
If the whole world did a Mexican Wave the wave could circumnavigate the entire globe seven times before Spurs scored a goal. That's a little known fact, outside Mexico.
Reply to Adolf Ginola:
Putting that forename in front of Ginola deserves you to be banned from this site in an instant. Be gone. And you spout utter bollocks.
Reply to HarryHotspur:
Or Spurs being on Ground Zero. We need a distraction: let's invade the Emptycrates.
So has anybody decided who is in actual fact to blame for this mess or is it still ongoing?
Their are inherent security issues surrounding our invasion planning though.
I've already heard people singing, 'Spurs Are On Their Way To Barnsley'....
Reply to Dave11:
175 posts in and I have two pieces of news.
1. We're closing in on 'em.
2. We're ahead of schedule.
Who is to blame? Daniel Levy he is in charge
I tend to agree with onedavemackay, which was a good an sensible summation. Clearly Levy as the Chairman is overall responsible, but the blame must go to those who have masqueraded as experts and not delivered.
Levy has I believe a fierce commitment to THFC and has done what he thinks right most of the time. He consulted some of the best brains in football before arriving at the DoF plan, with Arnensen it may have been a different story. He stayed with the advice when the personnel changed, not unreasonable.
He backed his new DoF with the appointment of Ramos, I always felt against his gut feel and has give his management team the funds to build. He has since shaken up the board, made the changes to the management personnel AND the DoF system and gone to the manager that won the FA Cup with a clubno glamour on a limited budget.
Levy has learned from that and I think we have a far better chairman now that we did when he first came on board. How much he has learned remains to be seen, I hope he has learned that you cannot change 50% of your first team overnight and that a solid club base will only come through steady development not quick fixes.
The real problem at THFC? The will to win!
Reply to HarryHotspur:
We then forward our concerns and ideas to the club.
Reply to daytripper:
your forgiven.....
how could you not coach your daughter and her friends....
i think the problem started before klinsman arrived...
i do enjoy the way north americans find their teams.....good choice....
Reply to BruceCastle:
Yes I can relate to this fixation my self. I have been diagnosed with a rare
and incurable disorder. A condition which takes it name from the famous
Austrian Dr SpursundTits who discovered this particular Illness.
Its an insatiable desire for the love of Spurs and something else I forget now!
Our ambitions for the season in shreds, relegation staring us in the face, doubt pervading the club and fan-base; but trust the goons to give you a laugh.
Referring to Bendtner's pink boots, Whinger declares: "I am not convinced by them."
a nice story from a yid.....
LINK
get Andrei Sergeyevich Arshavin now!
58. Day trippers wife
59. Barry Manilow
60. David Icke
61. Keith Chegwin
62. No will to win
63. Bendtner's pink boots
64. No Arshavin
The night nurse wore off
The players....the players.....the fucking players. The players are fucking things up for all of us. We have international players in virtually every position available....but they can't out think fucking Stoke. We've all played the game at some point in our lives, at some level, and did we need to be told to go out there and beat the other fucking team? No we didn't because the ability to fight comes from within and you either have it or you don't. Until the instinctive "fear" kicks in they aren't going to fight. The players don't believe that they can go down....I'm sure of it. They think that they are too good, too rich, and too good looking. Fear motivates....but how do we get a bunch of kids who left school at 15 years old to rationalize that? Someone needs to get the message up 'em....cos' they don't like it up'em.
Okay, now I've just put the wind up myself....the fear just kicked in....and i left school when i was eighteen. Time for another Heineken.
Reply to Finn:
After leaving spurs for man utd didnt carrick say the difference between the clubs was that it was acceptable to lose at spurs. I don't think anyone from Levy down really thinks we can break into the top four thats why our best players go to teams already established in the top four. sad but true
and another thing.....why are the players that we want too expensive for Spurs but not too expensive for other clubs? Ashley Young for example was a young, English, talented, left winger....just what we needed. But we didn't buy him......Villa did. We chase after shit like Downing who is not as good and would cost us a lot more.
So, who gets Arshavin then? Citeh? Arsenole? Spurs? You guess.
Reply to COYScanada:
Trouble is if ashley young had signed for spurs he would now be rubbish.Arshavin to be a superstar, its destiny surely
I personally blame Dave Mackay, the fact that he is now in his seventies is no excuse whatsoever not to be out on that pitch playing for his beloved Tottenham. One thing is for absolute certain that if he was every other player out there would be so bloody worried of the rocket up their arses they would have got for any lack of effort or passion not to mention the physical and verbal dressing down they would play as if their lives depended on it. Mackay the greatest on the field leader this club have had in my fifty odd years of watching our great club.
Ian
Reply to spursman1961:
Absolutely spot on. But if the glorious Dave MacKay gave them all a verbal bollocking followed up with a few direct threats (in the manner of a Billy Bremner lecture), the girlie boys would claim that they were being harassed and bullied and would pick up their ball and go home.
Israel, Israel and Israel!!!!
Reply to NEIL SPURS:
Are you related to Levy?
I agree with anyone thinking Levy is to blame. Being the top dog, taking the decisions to implement a DoF system (consultative advice taken or not), and then implement it in a manner that compromises it before you have even begun, it can only then be the self same person that ultimately carries the can. I'm no fan of the DOF system, was delighted when it was uncerimoniously thrown in the skip on HR's appointment, but to make it work, the manager must be the choice of the DOF and nobody else. The DOF should then do the hiring and firing of managers, coaches, players etc within the guidelines laid out by the chairman who runs the financial side.
I don't know whose man Santini was, but something didn't smell right at the outset. Same problems existed as with Comoli and all those who managed under him i.e. players were purchased who the manager didn't want. A certain M Carrick was totally unwanted by Santini, think some others were too, timotee shampoo possibly?. Anyhow, I digress.
Spurs have made quite a number of bad decisions at board level, and it's Levy or men that he has appointed that have made them.
Someone slated Sugar for his approach to spurs and then praised Levy but I don't think the approach has been that different. I'm by no means a Sugar fan, far from it, but without him and his financial approach we'd be in a lot of bovver with the comedy el tel approach to leaking important financial information prior to official stock market announcements etc. Levy and Enic just took over at a time when we'd been stabilised from a position of serious financial insecurity, and therefore had the money to invest in the team, very heavily I will add.
Day to day though, most recent blame goes to comoli and ramos for unbalanced squad (levy appointed men) and to the vast majority of players themselves who underperform each week - there is no excuse for their continued failings.
To focus on the players then, I'd be all in favour of a big spring clean in the midfield centre mid dept, a culling a large proportion. Hopefully this doesn't come across as a champioship manager approach, but as we have been given carte blanche to vent our spleens by Mr Hotspur, here is the contents of mine.
The all important axis of our midfield just doesn't work. Jenas is the very embodiment of inconsistent, has great engine but so often fails to do the simple things well, can be great but more than often isn't. Zokora, well, he runs and tries hard but really just isn't good enough, can't pass, can't shoot, drives towards goal then gets a noosebleed and scuffs it towards a ball boy, prefereably near the corner flag. When he wins it, you need a partner for him that can be constantly within 10 yards so the pass doesn't go astray or doesn't charge up the pitch. Thudd, great passing ability, not great mobility and sometimes just looks like his heart is in it, especially against the supposed smaller teams who have bloodied our noses all season.
Said before I know but the ideal solution would be morphing the three of 'em to form one good player. The result would be an athletic midfielder with defensive capabilities but also ability to get forward. To suspend reality for one second longer in fantasy football land, a fit michael essien is the player I would love to see fill this position for us, sadly it's never ever...ever..........ever going to happen
IMO the only people to blame for whats going on now are the current players and management team.
This is the same team that beat liverpool twice and got a (mossy) draw with the goons.
I don't like the way Harry has started using his links with the media to deflect blame onto everyone but himself. He took the praise when we were going well, so now its time to hold your hand up.
The squad he/we have is far better than most of the other squads in the bottom half, so I don't see it as having the wrong players, just not getting the best out of them, down to motivation, playing out of position, formation, whatever.
I always liked Harry, but he has made some weird decisions with players since he has been here.
Not sure why he stuck with the 1 up front Wendy prefered, when it wasn't working.
I thought Defoe coming, playing with Pav or Bent would be the way forward.
Lets go 4-4-2, add some flair in the right games, ie Bentley (not away to Bolton, Wigan etc then we need the battlers) home to Pompey would be ideal, get some confidence in the guy.
The problem at spurs is the board-has been for years and has been for years. Even look now they intefere with transfers. Ever since Santini/Arnersen arrived we wanted Downing. But they leave and Jol/Arnersen, Jol/Commolli, Ramos, Comolli and now Redknapp want Downing. It does not make any sense. When has Redknapp ever gone for a player who has much battle in him as JJ, Bale, Bentley etc
The problem is Levy aint got a clue about football. He is happy enough to see the big names arrive. I can remember the days of trying to buy Rivaldo and Morientes when they were in their prime. You also have Paul Kelmsley. Another guy who even though 'officially' is not a member of the board he has a lot of power etc he taps up Ramos with the help of Tony Jimenez. Oh and when Ramos goes he gets old mate 'Arry in!!!
The problem Levy and Kelmsley and ENIC has is now they have hired 'Arry they have hired a man who will want his own players a the club. Not these pansies like Jenas, Bent, Bale, Boatend etc and he will walk if and when he wants. Im afraid the present and future is very very bleak.
For me the blame lies squarely at the rather large feet of Mr Tom (Thudd) Huddlestone!
He played every game(ish) in the fantastic run that we had when Harry took over and made some killer passes and chipped in with a few goals too. We had superb, fee flowing football and while we were not defensively great, the pros far outweighed the cons. So it is Tom's fault for not getting picked!
Seriously though without thumbing through stats etc Thudd was different class during that goalden spell and many on here (including me) were comparing him with Hoddle and worshipping him accordingly. How is it that Harry can't see the significance of our dip in form since he has been left out. I know he has had a bit of an injury but he was dropped for some of the games which is beyond me because apart from Ledders and Woody he has been our MVP so far. Luca's work rate is good and he is a terrier but for me Thudd is a class apart and must play when fit. I bet the strikers love it when Thudd plays. Have a look at the stats and you'll probably find that we score a shed load more goals when he plays because his passes start things off, get Lennon, Bently and the strikers into space etc and generally hurt the opposition.
C'mon Harry wake up!
arry took over a good squad of players that were lacking in confidence, he had the honeymoon period, that is now over.
people can blame players - but it is the managers job to get them to play - if he cant he has to sell whoever isnt doing it.
ultimatly it lies with harry, what i am seeing is a man who is trying to keep certain players happy. if you look at the side - its not bad on paper - so redkapp has to get it right.
gomes - looking a great keeper
corluka - again solid right back (better centre back)
woodgate - solid
dawson/king - dawson -progress under harry. king not a dm as shown on sun, so he either play cb or not at all.
???? - bae - progressed a little/still vunerable - bale - lost all confidence - he is still 19, i would not sell him, id loan him out. Again I know ppl have been saying play o hara here – id have to agree – give him a go there – at least he will give 100%
betley/lennon - these are england internationals - harry has to get the best out of them, if he cant sell them.
???? zokora - i feel a little sorry for him - as i think over the last month he has been on the only man in midfield (apart fro o hara, when he plays), that will tackle and win balls, however what is the sense in winning balls if once he wins them he gaves them away, sell him.
???modric - interesting to see him in a 4-4-2, however unless we get a great DM we cannot judge him, however he needs to be taking more control of games like wigan, were he was non existent, he needs to get on the ball more, weather he can adapt to a 4-4-2 still imo remains to be seen.
??? - no natural left winger.
defoe - too early to judge.
pav / bent- imo pav is the best finisher in the league, the prob im having is his all round play is not up to prem league standard, wether he can improve this or not its another thing, in fairness he has not got much service in the box, ehich is needed...dont think harry rates him. bent again is to unpredicatble, can score 2 1 week then score 0 for a few weeks.
subs
ohara – grafter, need players like him
jj – if mod plays cm, he cant play – sell
Giovanni- harry doesn’t like him – loan him out
Gunter – potential – loan him out
Frazer – an average back up.
Hudd – is he better footballer than zokora – yes – is he fitter, can he cover as much ground – no. can be a great anchorman in the prem – no
Appiah – only signed – is he fit enough? Time will tell
So judging by the above – we need a left back – left winger – 1 centre midfielder - right winger.
So if you look at the above statement – 1 could be led to believe it is the midfields fault – players are playing with big reputations but not producing it – sell them on – if we make a loss, take it on the chin, learn from our mistakes and move on.
However yes I midfielders are too blame, however harry has to take blame as well, his tactics against wigan – have been poor – imo we did not need to spend 15 mill on defoe until we can get midfielders who can supply the front men. Pav/bent to be fair have not got much service, im not saying they are world beaters but you cant judge them until they get some decent service. They could have offered wigan 15 mill (defoes money) + jj + thud for palacios and valenica, which at least would have solved a bit of the midfield prob…..however im not the manager, harry is…..so he has to sort it out….which I hope is fast………
In short…………our current midfield needs to go, replaced by a better midfield, then we will start winning.
Levy. He chooses the manager, but none have been givem time to build their teams, becuase he panics. Then there is the sale of keane and berbatov, with no replacement. Oh, and selling Defoe for £9m and buying him for £15.75m Harry will be gone in less than two years, just like the rest, if Levy stays, and we will be no further forward.
its our own fault we dont sing we just moan and caste the blame on every thing but ourselves we should be ashamed and wev call the gooners for silence we only have one song "stand up if you hate arsenal" that rubbish Come on lets start now lets use these web pages to make Spurs great again what happened to knees up muther brown and maybe its because im a Londoner are we not proud of our city anymore come lads and ladies lets support our team come what may
Anyone who punctuates their sentences with 'Fact', 'Full Stop', or 'End Of' is to blame.
just seen this on the Mail website, prob nothing though.
"A deal for free agent Stephen Appiah is currently on hold as it is understood the Ghana international midfielder has gone home after training with the club last week."
Hope we don't lose him, by all accounts he sounds a bit tasty!
Although he was very long winded about it, I agree with Wayne.
Replace the midfield. It's cack.
'arry's to blame. His buying policy is to target players from clubs at risk of relegation: Bednar, Bellamy, Downing, N'Zogbia, now Palacios (ok, Wigan aren't at risk of the drop, but they ought to be, so there).
Although this policy could genuinely unsettle or denude clubs, 'arry ought to go for the jugular and target the coaches instead. Bruce, Kinnear, Zola, Partridge, Mowbray - we can just terminate their contracts at the end of their season, when we're safe.
Introducing Mr Graham Roberts and his no-nonsense interpretation. I remember the pictured goal well - what a great night that was.
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Reply to 1kashola:
Why am I to blame?
Reply to 9__37:
...and anyone unhappy with the term 'midget' please take it up with Mr Roberts.
Don't blame it on the sunshine nor the moonlight. Blame it on the Boogers.
Two things are certain:
1) We may not know who to blame for the mess, but it's only the players that can get us out of it.
2) I forgot the other.
Reply to DANNYBOY:
well said...Levy has shelled out more than most chairman in the league depsite never having champs league football.
He's the driving force behind a stunning new stadium.
The only thing he's done wrong is appoint Commolli (who had a decent reputation!)
He's Spurs through and through...
He was right to sack Jol who had clearly lost the plot,
Ramos looked a stunning appointment however it didnt work out..not Levy's fault.
He didnt want to sell Keane and Berba and made sure the club got top dollar for them instead of being bullied by the big boys.
Harry looked just the right appointment too and had a great start to his reign.
I cannot fathom where the anger against Levy comes from...give the players and the manager stick as they're the ones employed to win us games and that is something Levy can't affect.
Reply to TMWNN:
Quite agree. But there's no reason for upset. It's all perfectly clear.
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I blame the lot of em equally. Spurs like many others are a chameleon team. They emulate their surroundings namely the opposing team.Take harrys first four games in charge: We can play the likes of united liverpool and arsenal, knock it about brazil-esque along the ground, down the flanks into the box. BOOTIFUL.
Then take the last 4 games Wigan, west brom, fulham, newcastle. Gritty teams who get stuck in. Problem is we try to get stuck in but lack the bite. We can play the slick game with the best of them only those games are few and far between at the moment. We lack the confidence and self belief to control a game to play at our pace. That is the sign of a good team in any sport. Who can play and compete with the best, and convict a lesser skilled team.
Until we get players with that confidence and mentality were slugging it out for the foreseable future.
I do however believe in a select few, and I think who we have, are good enough. Thats were Arry comes in, a master of turning pure muck into gold. Lets see if he can do it with some tarnished silver.
Reply to munso:
Why would Appiah want to stay here? He's hearing 'arry say how Zokora is his golden boy, and has to figure he's never going to see the light of day as a starting DM here.
TMWNN - sorry, bad link. It was Peter Kay's explanation of the difference between dwarfs and midgets. Try this. Otherwise youtube.
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Reply to 9__37:
Crystal, but aren't we supposed to call midgets dwarves these days?
Reply to TMWNN:
Love to see Robbo involved today, he must have something to give this club?
He still PAYS to watch spurs according to his book I'm reading at the mo.
He has certainly upset a few in his time at the lane, but he is Tottenham through and through.
Get in there Robbo!
Reply to 9__37:
this team has no desire or cohesion and worst of all,no leader.every1 and myself included can bang on about how poor some of our players are but there is no way this team should be in the position we find ourselves in and the single most important reason is because there is no leader in our team,no one that the players look up to,no one that inspires them,no one that drives them on,no one that fires them up,so in escence we are a rudderless ship.
Reply to dermo:
Redknaapp Is the manager it is up to him to put the team out .We have a good squad full of talented players ,it is up to Redknapp to get the best out of them .There is an old saying and you can see how very true it is over the last few days ,a poor workman always blames his tools .
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
Yes, we have plenty of tools!
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
great battles and wars have been won on the backs of great generals,when the soldiers are in the midst of battle they dont look to their kings for inspiration,they look to their generals that are in the thick of the battle with them.
Reply to dermo:
You`ve watched Gladiator to many times
We had a chance to put someone in the team with a bit of guts and something to prove but some people booed him off - Ghaly of course.
Could Ghaly be better than Zokora? discuss.
Without dought mr levy.He needed more faith in his judgement of appointing ramos he should of backed him on transfers of players he wanted in.We have missed agreat opportunity to really have a team that could take us forward and challenge for titles and cups.while i think harry will do a good job, I would of gone after martin o'neil .
Reply to gettingthereslowly :
Why would Martin O'Neil have left Villa for us?
except bale, our defenders are ok. we should play 451 with 2 strong DM(no zokora) in the middle of the park. It doesn't matter how many striker we have upfront if we have no control in midfied. It can't be denied that we really need to keep buying midfielders and a LB. If I were harry I would buy Palacios, Hunt. We may have to pay in overrated prices but we have no choice since relegation cost more
Reply to It's not suppose to be like this:
Give Ghaly a go then
Sunday proved nothing about Modric. He was playing at the head of a diamond with two hard-working, yet ultimately uninspirational players in O'Hara and Zokora offering virtually the only width we had.
Modric is an absolutely top-class footballer but there's no point having a terrific passer of the ball in your side if he has nobody to pass to in the business end of the pitch and with the front two being marked out of the game and with absolutely nobody getting beyond Modric from the rest of the side then he was left with absolutely no options.
In fact, as much as I like Harry and his point about the number of gutless players in the squad, it's Redschnapps himself who should take a lot of credit for the defeat after picking a ridiculously defensive side against a Wigan team who we should be beating no matter what form they're in.
Reply to HenryPercy:
Not you Henry but Sir Henry Percy who was "Harry Hotspur" of Shakespeare's Henry IV who the name Hotspurs is associated with.
Reply to gettingthereslowly :
I believe O`Neil was offered the job ,but he would not believe the Lords prayer coming from Levy
More good news a real hard workerLINK
Playing six defenders has, as far as I can tell never worked in a football game. That's why it didn't work on Sunday.
Enough of this (not drinking) I'm off the pub to debate the merits of tasty pancakes, yummy pastries and mob psychology.
Reply to Nick_The_Greek:
So have I
Great post sir 
Reply to NovaYid:
David Bowie! Apparently the credit crunch is all his fault. He's why we didn't buy Young, Arsharvin and Huntlaar.
Tosser!
Reply to NovaYid:
Reply to Oldmotherhubbard:
Spot on. I lay the lion's share of the blame for the turd we submitted on Sunday at the feet of the manager.
I know Wigan are on a good run and all, but if we can't travel to the Wigans of the world with any ambition above and beyond a draw, then we bloody well deserve to go down.
Harry should've realized by now that we are not going to win a physical midfield battle. Playing a hideously negative formation does us no favors; it only invites the opposition to lay siege to us because they can be confident we're not going to be any threat to them at the other end. It's not our style, and it's completely inappropriate given our personnel.
We are not going to beat teams like Wigan by grinding them down. We don't have the players for that. We beat teams like Wigan by playing our tidy passing game and letting our flair/pace players open them up. The sooner our fearless leader clues in to that, the better.
Reply to Armchair Expert:
Nonsense.
How much money has Levy given to Comolli, Jol, Ramos over the years....?????
More than most clubs in the Premiership thats for sure!!!!!
Why are we blaming anyone. Is it not our philosophy to underachieve every year in order to make that one year - that 1966 of a year- when we do win the quadruple. No wait, the sextuple ( not sure if that is right but it is to do with trophies and it has sex in it) the greatest year of all our lives. Rather be a spurs fan than any other fan because winning is such a rarity that we can excuse even the most over the top celebrations. West Brom at home I'd take 1-0 and bang out the bubly and a catered party with a bouncy castle and ball pond. Sorry i mean port.
Reply to NovaYid:
Amen. A trip to the JJB with visions of a goalless draw dancing in our heads.
Spurs: Feel the Excitement!
Reply to James147:
We have said all season that we have too much quality and yet we are still in bottom 3. Clearly, quality has to be put into context. Skill/talent is useless in the prem without guts and commitment. These players with a few exceptions have neither. Championship here we come.
Reply to Jason Bartley:
Replying to Jason Bartley:
Great points. But I'd like to correct one issue. 110% is not the minimum. 100% is the maximum. By definition. Just sayin'.
truth is the club hasn't been the sam since martin jol, fell out with edgar daivids, davids was an influence like roy keane, a professional that knew a player had to have desire to win and talent alone was not enough. He may have been past his best as a player when he arrived, but we have been papering over the cracks since his gone. We miss his professionalism, and after BMJ fell out with davids, he lost the dressing room as well.
I blame Frank Arnasen's greed. We've gone down hill ever since he left, obviously with Comolli taking over.
And don't say that he wasn't in charge of Berba's transfer cuz he was, we were after him for months (close to a year methinks) before we actually signed him. The other signings that year (chimbomba and zokora) were Comolli.
I also hate it when people blame levy. He has done nothing but invest into this club. He puts in ridiculous money that clubs like Everton could only dream about. Yet we bitch and moan when he gets rid of Jol after a horrific start and replaces him with, at the time any way, a world class manager
I think the one to blame is nothing but Mr Harry....you don't try new formation and tactics when you are already in a mess and then change everything round...and by not playing Darren Bent when he was scoring goals week in week out....now he lost that rythem and form of course because there's the russian twat
Expectation and over zealous opinion of a pretty poor squad, regardless of how much we have spent on them.
I think Harry has been right to point out the unbalanced nature of the squad, and we certainly have our fair share of players who have not given the effort that paying fans expect.
Its partly the board but mostly the players to blame. We have some good hard working players and a number of players who show glimpses of class. The show of class is few and far between and now that other teams in the league have improved our short comings are being highlighted this year.
We have a long way to go before we think about "breaking" into the Top Four. We need consistency along with pride and determination on the pitch.
The board can provide funds to bring in players, Management and Staff can coach and instil a work ethic and provide tactics. But once the players cross the white line they alone are responsible for their actions.
For crying out loud Dannyboy(post 14),
Levy's job is to 'choose' the right men to take the club forward. He chose Comolli and then accepted that jumped up scout's decision to undermine, embarrass and finally oust the best manager we'd had since the late 80's, then bring in a manager who failed spectacularly even though he had a phenomenal league cup win, not just as a springboard but as compelling proof of what his new squad were capable of. And that's without even going into Comolli's player trading techniques.
Levy may be good at putting his hands deep into his pockets but his reading of peoples talent and who to trust have been an unmitigated and humiliating disaster. If Levy's abilities with human resources were equal to his abilities with book balancing and shareholder quenching we wouldn't be bottom three and a laughing stock, but they're not and we are.
Go on the Spurs.
Reply to JonSpurs:
Beg pardon!
I think you'll find that if we get relegated the players you want us to get rid of will stay and the ones you want us to build the team around will bugger off sharpish.
Where did you go to football business school, Comolli Inomprehensive?
Reply to Doccas:
Have you ever considered playing Henry V?
Go on the el....
For the defeat against Wigan, harry is to blame. Why he fucking doesn't play his better team. Why he take off the pitch pav and mod ? Why he doesn't play o'hara at left back and Gio or even bentley at the LM position and why zok started at RM position and King in a CDM role ?!?! What's the fuck harry ? we beat derby 4-1 with a complete different team, and we beat wigan a week ago, with a complete different team ... What's the fuck, continue like this and you'll be our next ramos, It's up to you ...
Reply to DANNYBOY:
Well said dannyboy!!!! i just cant understand the critisism he gets. Since he took over we,ve matched nearly all other clubs for spending. Its not his fault tactics and so on havent exactly worked on the pitch
Reply to el:
El, very impressive with the 20/20 hindsight...
If you can criticize Levy for hiring and then firing Jol and Ramos then tell me now, not after the fact, was Redknapp the right hiring, and when exactly will he be let go or will he succeed?
At this point in time I cannot see us getting outta relegation zone we are playing so poorly, theres no desire, we are not cre4ating chances for the forwards and they are not making chances them selves. The expensive players just ponce around the pitch like fairies. We need a player like stu pearce or paul ince who pull on the shirt and wanna play for the team and want to win.
Harry get ur foot up there arses and give them what for before its to late
Jol leaves - Ramos says it's a poorly put together team, gets rid of 10 or so players and brings in a few.
Ramos leaves - Redknapp says it's an un-balanced squad and needs 3/4 players.
I understand we needed a bit of an overhaul but all we've got now is 3 pretty decent 5 a-side teams inherited from different managers.
To me the problem is wanting to do too much too soon. No manager in the world would think you can turn a team around with one close season spend up.
Ramos done well with Sevilla after working with what he had over a period of time, you can't expect to have the amount of new personel we have and expect it to work.
It's probably not the view of most other fans but I honestly think we should just stop bloody buying people and it'll work. By work I mean stay up.
Reply to DANNYBOY:
what....brain donor??
Reply to Ol'Git:
Sorry, I can't let it lie.
Jol didn't "stumble", he was undermined from way before he was pushed.
Ramos didn't stumble either, he was never on his feet.
Reply to 9__37:
Shut up and blame someone.
Or leave this site.
Reply to 9__37:
Yup, passed from the New York Port Authority into private hands and a new extremely profitable insurance policy - specifically aganst a terrorist attack - a matter of months before the planes hit.
Coincidence of course.
Reply to 9__37:
I think we can get Ricky Villa to shave his arse with a Barry Manilow CD.
Reply to Steve:
i thought that the DOF was for the keeping/building of a squad as managers or coaches to be more specific on the continent....came and went....
or for the continental chairman to keep a real good grip on the squad.....
either way it hasn't worked for levy and you can't help but feel a little sorry for jol... even though most of us at the time had decided we could do better.....
..results are the main thing in football if you don't get those then you're pretty much fucked....
Reply to el:
it would of been good to hear that on the news at ten......
The blame for sundays piss poor display
1.harry for putting bale in defence ,if your gonna play him play him in midfield he cant defend
2.harry for not taking gomes off ..
3.jenas...the wimpiest midfielder in the premiership
4.bentley.is this guy a gooner trying to send spurs down.get rid of him and get gareth barry in.
5.ALL THE PLAYERS FOR NOT GIVING A SHIT ABOUT THE SHIRT
Levy has chosen four managers now: Hoddle, Jol, Ramos and Redknapp. None of them seemed able to really control and shape the team the way that Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger and even Moyes have been able to over the years. You might say the problem was Comolli, buying unwanted players. But he's not around any longer and after three months Redknapp still doesn't seem ready to organize a tight, tough, resilient team. Whatever excuses the various managers may have touted, the problem comes back to Levy every time. He doesn't know enough about football. He's capricious and impatient when we're doing reasonably well (ie under Jol), and panicks when we're doing badly (ie under Ramos). Appointing Redknapp was the act of a desperate and short-sighted man. I wouldn't be surprised if we're relegated this year.
Reply to Lillywhite:
Dear Lillywhite,
I'm not the one putting myself forward as the man to take ultimate resposibility for hiring the right people to improve Tottenham Hotspur PLC's fortunes. I'm not the chairman but if I was I'd expect the buck to stop with me, as it appears to with many other company chairman, many of whome step down following disasters occurring on their watch. After 7 years, I find myself running out of patience with the current pretender who's mistakes have been spectacular. It's not about hindsight, it's about taking responsibility.
So who do you think the THFC buck stops with?
Could someone tell me whome is resposible for my spelling?
65. Man Utd
66. Losing Carrick
67. Dave Mackay
68. Israel
69. The board
70. The large feet of Mr Tom (Thudd) Huddlestone!
71. Anyone who punctuates their sentences with 'Fact', 'Full Stop', or 'End Of'
72. The midfield
78. The Boogers
79. The lot of them
80. Lack of desire
81. Cohesion
82. Playing six defenders
83. David Bowie!
84. The credit crunch
85. No one is to blame
86. Martin Jol
87. Edgar Davids
88. Frank Arnesen's greed
89. Over zealous opinion
And finally after a couple of hours debating this at the pub I have come to the conclusion that The Illuminati and The New World Order is to blame for the current situation at The Lane x
And what about my spelling?
Reply to 1kashola:
well...there(TNWO) always to blame....
did you get daytrippers wife.....?
Reply to KOJAC:
i mean their(TNWO)....i think...who invented all these different words....
Hmmmm as a fan of 'another' team here's my (unwanted - ha!) view!
In 274 posts you've blamed a series of different chairmen, different boards, different players, different tactics etc...
And during this period of time the ONE constant influence in ALL of it is... drum roll..
YOU - THE FANS
YOU all wanted Jol out as you thought he had lost it and didn't have what it took to win the 'big' games.. so your chairman delivered.
YOU all still want 'pretty' attacking football regardless.. cuz its the Spurs way.. so your managers *try* and deliver.
YOU all want big names like your shopping on CM2009 - Modric, Bently etc.. so your chairman trys and delivers.
And most of all YOU all STILL (!) think you have the divine right to beat 'teams like Wigan'
This filters to the players guys - there's 36,000 of you (With you 3rd from bottom!) thinking that a team 'like Spurs' should roll over a team 'like Wigan' - who are THE in form team, 7th in the league and gonna be damn hard to beat regardless of form.
And you wonder why the players aren't up for the fight? They get the belief from 36,000 of you they shouldn't need to try that hard!!
Reply to madladdy:
good points....who is your team....?
Reply to steve:
I agree with all that subbing Pavlyuchenko for Bent was a waste of resource that we needed in the middle Bents crap weird team picked that day.
Reply to KOJAC:
Villa... and so its easy to see how you guys got carried away a few years back with 5th place etc..
But I have to say the majority of Villa fans are still realistic and know going to Wigan/Hull/Stoke is going to be a damn tough game and at the very least your in for a battle!
Man U go there tomorrow - any Man U player with a half hearted attitude of 'its only Wigan' would get a kicking from Fergie!
Maybe it stems from this 'nice' football.. Villa fans want to see players busting a gut and dying for the team, give 110% blood, sweat and tears and we'll forgive you for most other things.
Nice football is one thing, but WestBrom are going down with pretty football.
Reply to madladdy:
well i can't say i've seen nice footbll from tottenham this season.....
and man utd will most probably destroy wigan at old trafford....
but good luck to the villa in upsetting the goons....it's always a pleasure to see the likes of villa,everton,newcastle,spurs...you know real football clubs trying to to do the bizness....
Have to say - above all I think you guys really need a gritty leader on the field to instil that fighting/team spirit you lack.
For YEARS Spurs have been an easy game - we might be unlucky and you guys might hit form and outplay us and win 5:0 - but its never a 'hard' game etc!
Good luck with the rest of the season!
Reply to KOJAC:
58. Day trippers wife
i think we simply arent a TEAM.....theres still uncertainties on our best starting 11....maybe Arry is struggling with managing the ego's?
having game after game attracts injuries and an element of resting players, keys players that is.
we need to establish our spine and work from there;
gomes
woody
modric
pavlova
Whether you play 3-5-2 or 4-4-2 or any fuckin combo these players should (IMO) be certainties to start
i also think Lennon is first choice as is Thudd but the spine is the key. I cant believe i am suggesting King isnt one of them but he aint up to it physically and that is a killer for us
the rest can fight it out and warm the bench and accept it....after all they will still get their wonga.
The one i feel real sorry for is JOH as he is a master of none. he really should try and establish his best position and make it difficult to be dropped.
at the moment Arry aint struggling to drop anyone.
I suggest the above for our Prem games as it is our priority, for cup games he can chop and change as much as he likes, i couldnt give a toss.
as for transfers, forget it unless its a propoer Left winger or a striker.......and in January this will be like rockin horse do-do
comolli and levy for all the pathetic midfielders they bought AND for letting Malbranque go!
We have been buying players instead of buying a team. I think ultimately you have to blame the owners as in any business. I think we have paid big money for young players ( 18-22) with the potential if they do well to be sold at 25 in their prime. Bent may be expensive but he can be re-sold. Buy a player at 27 and his resale value will drop quickly. I was disgusted the way board went behind Jols back and the ENIC owners should have replaced levy. Spurs need to build a team, two players for each position, regardless of age and the best value for money. And then give an experienced manager like arry a minimum of three years. (Moyes, Bruce would not have lasted that at the current Spurs).
I blame the supporters. Never stop bitching about everything under the sun. Every week a new scapegoat. Jolsgonemental and the like need to piss off and go support Chelsea with the rest of the glory hunters.
Spurs save me from your supporters!