Thursday, 16 August 07, 11:29 PM · Comments(41)
David made great debuts yesterday: he finally scored his first goal in Major League Soccer and gave a great advantage to the Los Angeles Galaxy. The Angelinos beat D.C. United 2-0.
Beckham scored a magnificient free kick, proving that his ankle's injury is only a bad memory. The Spice Boy showed all his class offering the second goal to captain Landon Donovan. People who were already criticizing him now are welcome to shut it up.
Still doesn't proof anything. He still in the list, "Of Retirement". The man of LA Galaxy is Landon. That British is waste of money, just look LA Galaxy that is far from the play-offs. Alexis Lalas
is an Idiot with capital I, for contracting him. There younger players, cheaper and better than that METROSEXUAL peace of trash.
lol, lempira. I agree with you. Why doesn't Alexi Lalas shut his mouth, talking about "The EPL is just money and big egos". HA! Look at yourself in the mirror, before saying something stupid like
that, Mr. Lalas. He brings Beckham over here. Why? To make people like the sport of football more, here, in the US and for......what else? $$$$$$$$$$$$-MONEY-$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Why do you think the
stadiums, in every city, raise the prices of the MLS games, when the Galaxy plays there? They're getting...$$. That asshole, Alexi Lalas, needs to shut his mouth and watch what he says, because one
day, he'll take his comments on the EPL game a little too far and before you know it, he'll be in an ambulance, getting stitches. Beckham should just quit while he's ahead of himself, because that
free-kick was shit. Ronaldinho and Pirlo's free-kicks/crosses are WAY better than any fucking "Golden Balls".
i still don't understand ... what are you folks so angry about beckham? It just looks like idiotic jealousy if you ask me. So what if its for money? the mls needs money and beckham brings money.
whats wrong with that? and so what if ronaldinho & pirlo's free kicks are better? they're not here in the US improving the profile of the sport. how can he be a waste of money if he's sold $250M
worth of shirts. and how can landon be the man for L.A. - wasn't he the one who was around when the galaxy sunk to that dismal record? you will never understand the impact of beckham you do not
understand the business side of soccer. and lalas maybe an idiot, but he is a talking point of the mls. how much did you talk about the mls before hand?
The Gals are crap and Becks was brought in too late. Not his fault, it's MLS. Their plan blew up. But look what he is doing for football/soccer in this country - record crowds, beautiful football,
goals, media coverage up the ying yang both Domestic and International. Frankly I love that Becks is here and now! Please look at the big picture.
gonzilla, i'm not mad at Beckham or the MLS. I hate the fact that guys like "MeettheBeckhams" praises Becks so much. They act like he's the best player in the world and obviously he's nowhere near
that. I love the MLS (Red Bulls supporter), but lots of people need to understand he came over here for money and to retire (completely TRUE), not so he can show how good he is at bending a football.
so what if they praise beckham too much? they would have the same argument if they say you praise barca too much! and don't tell me i'm wrong - because i can prove it. you praise barca so much you
fail to recognize real madrid's accomplishments. its the same way. its a sport. people are free to choose who they want to root for and support. being the "best" as you say is always relative &
subject to opinion. i believe you DO NOT have a right to criticize people who have different opinions than you. the money part - well, it goes both ways, he makes money for himself and more
importantly for the league. And is trying to play a friendly in england and then a derby match vs. chivas the next day "retiring"? i think not, my friend. stupid, maybe. but definitely not retiring.
oh ... and did you even go out to the match and support your local club?
Anti - i know you are a hater but this is crazy even for you. You can hate Becks and Lalas and the Galaxy all you want but you have the nerve to say that shot was shit.....look at it again that was a
great shot by any standard and to take away from his talent is utter crap. Becks in his 30's is better than most of the young inexperienced guy in MLS right now and him being here wil only help the
game. .......bottom line
hmmm, gonzilla you proved me wrong. Why would I not go and support the Red Bulls, if it weren't for Beckham and the Galaxy, they would be the best team in the MLS, due to Angel, Reyna, and the new
boy, Altidore. The game was amazing. I go to some Red Bulls games, only the ones I think will be entertaining. NY Red Bulls v. Galaxy - amazing game, NY Red Bulls v. Real Salt Lake - boring as fuck,
especially with Adu gone. Anonymous, obviously you never seen any of Beckham's other free-kicks, from back in Manchester and his early days in Madrid. The free-kick for the Galaxy was shit, when
compared to other free-kicks. As a matter of fact, just 2 months ago, when Becks was still in Madrid, he scored a better goal than the one he did in the Superliga. You need to go to YouTube and watch
some free-kicks because that one was shit.
One more thing. gonzilla, what you bring up of my love for Barca and my praising them, is all true. But, Barca is a club, Beckham is one guy. I like Lionel Messi, but I don't praise him as much as
most Americans praise Beckham. They act like he's God or something and for me, that's going a little too far. Also, in my opinion, there's a HUGE differnce between one man and a whole club.
Anonymous, where do you see hate in my comments? Yeah, I cursed a lot and sounded angry, but that's not hate, that's frustration. You got to learn that, that's 2 very different things and although it
seems like hate to you, it's not to me, so.......
no ... there is little difference, anti-madridista. you always talk like barca is the greatest club in the world. its the same thing. how is it different for one person? and how can you say that
(free kick) was shit? how many times have you seen a free kick like that? that hit the side netting first -not the back of the net. i'm beginning to think that you don't know much about football
other than barca - that makes you no better than these people who you claim to not know anything about soccer/football. IN FACT, THEY ARE BETTER BECAUSE THEY DON'T TALK SHIT LIKE YOU.
becks and that goal was great really anti if you are comparing to his previous goals then that goal was still good but it was not one of his best true.......but there is a big dirfference from the
becks that played at man u and the becks that plays for the galaxy..either way he is still better than most of the rookies that play in mls.......Becks is good for the MLS.......he just is and Anit
name someone in MLS that can make free kicks like Becks ....i can't think of anyone......but it won't matter b/c the Houston Dynamo are going to repeat as MLS champs ....GOOOOOO DYNAMO!!!!
Yes, Soccercell said, what I've been trying to say. What I meant by "his free-kick was shit", was that it was no where near as good as his others. I guess everyone takes the word "shit" very, very
harshly, so by "shit" I mean it just sucks, when compared to his others. gonzilla, I've seen that free-kick. Have you seen Beckham's OTHER free-kicks, from Madrid, last season because obviously you
have no idea of what he is capable of doing, since you think that free-kick in the Superliga was sooooo good. Ok, you got me on that part with Barcelona. But, that's my passion talking, not my
knowledge for the game. But, then again, I wouldn't expect a Thierry Henry FC (aka Arsenal) fan to understand what I'm trying to say. gonzilla, I can tell by your comments above, that you've just
stated liking Becks. 'Cause if you saw the way he played for Madrid last season, you wouldn't be defending him.
gonzilla, I guess you never saw his resergence in the Madrid squad last season. When, Capello and the Madridistas had lost faith in him, he fought back and got himself back into the Madrid 11 and
into the England 11. It pains me to say this, but because of Beckham, Madrid were the better team in La Liga, last season. By your comments above, I can see YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HE DID LAST SEASON.
That's why you're defending him so much. He played MUCH better in Madrid's last game against Mallorca, then he did in that Superliga game against Houston. And don't give me any bullshit about how he
was on a bad ankle against the dynamo because I guess you wouldn't be too smart to know, that he was on a very bad ankle that day too. gonzilla, STICK TO THE PREM because clearly, YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF
HOW GOOD BECKHAM CAN PLAY. I'm not defending Becks, I'm telling you the facts because I see you don't know.
i've tried to be polite and tact before ... but are you stupid? you are the one who has been saying that beckham sucks - all the time i've been trying to state what he has accomplished - look at my
other comments at other blogs where i similarly defend beckham. we've had this argument several times. i've never compared his galaxy season to his last real madrid season. i've always said that he
was a major part of that fantastic title winning run of real madrid. i can run a list of comments just here on oleole about how i've mentioned his achievements. and obviously you do not know what you
are talking about because beckham has never played against HOUSTON DYNAMO in the Superliga or in the MLS. so unless you can back yourself up (with facts) in your next comment, i suggest you shut the
fuck up and stop making a fool out of yourself.
and just to prove you wrong - go ahead and read what i wrote over a month ago - LINK - everything you claimed that i did not know, i
wrote about it in that post. and just to remind you how idiotic you can get - didn't you write "if i don't know him, he isn't good" about arsenal's signing of bakari sagna?
(sigh) You done? Ok, you're right about all the Sagna and the other debates we've had, but I have a habit talking before thinking, because even you.....are not perfect. NO ONE is perfect. I don't
know what team Beckham played against in the SL, so I just picked the Dynamo, sue me. And I guess your comprehension skills aren't too good because I said, I'M NOT defending Becks, just showing you
the facts. He does suck and if someone like you can't see that.......................
no, you dumbfuck - you haven't presented me with facts. only opinions. what fact did you bring up? "beckham is good" is not a fact - its an opinion, a fact is "beckham scored a goal". Its your
comprehension skills that need work - i used that line on you before, and now you keep using it like you came up with it. (i was the one posting under arsene_knows) and since your on this
"comprehension" trip, do you even UNDERSTAND what that means? you clearly do not. i can't see that he sucks because he keeps getting called up to the england squad and he has played for two of the
most storied clubs in the history of football won more titles that you. and you said earlier "how good he can play" and then you say "he sucks". what is it? make up your mind! i told you to come back
at me with better statements.
oh ... and i am far from perfect, it only looks that way because i am arguing with you. and next time you use the word - its RESURGENCE. stay in school, kid.
Ok, tough guy.......A) that's the way I spell resergence on the internet. Sue me. B) The reason why I'm saying he sucks and that he's good at the same time, is because I'm trying to tell you, that
NOW, he sucks, but you're defending him, like he's the shit, so i'm trying to tell you that he's played better than you have seen him play for LA and Madrid. C) You act like he's the only guy to have
been recalled for a national team, after everyone loses faith in him. D) You're too dumb to remember that it was WENGER_knows, not Arsene. E) don't know what a "dumbfuck" is, I know what a dumb
*SPACEBAR* fuck is. F) I'm not a pro footballer, so of course he'll win more titles than me (nice comment, idiot). G)"i am far from perfect, it only looks that way because i am arguing with you."
You're the only one laughing at that joke/wise-crack. H) It's hilarious, to see people like you get angry!!
no, i'm not angry - i'm having fun interacting with your shit arguments. and if you're stupid enough to think that i think beckham is the shit ... my whole point which you keep missing is that "HE IS
NOT SHIT AS YOU SAY HE IS". And i'm sure you'll find a lot of detractors when you say that he sucks now. Open your eyes to the reality that he is not as bad as you think he is. i'm actually glad
you're learning how to build arguments unlike your earlier off-topic personal attacks as a response. at least, you are learning - there is hope.
Dude, ok, look. If I'm stupid, you are stupider because I know you're trying to tell me that he isn't as bad as I think. Ok. Cool. But, I'm trying to say, the only reason why you think he is sooooo
good, is because you must have started watching his performances a few months ago. By the way you talk, I can clearly see that you NEVER seen his past performances. Look, Beckham may have beaten some
team in the Superliga, but answer me this. If he's soooooo good, like YOU are implying, then why couldn't he do anything in the England v. Germany game? England lost. And here are some of the points
I know you will bring up. A) "He's on a bad ankle". Cool. I get that, but he doesn't have to play, if he doesn't want to and he did, so there's no excuse. B) "He's not the star" Who says you have to
be a star to do what is expected of you? Robinho isn't Brazil's star, but he shined in the Copa America.
C) "One man can't do it by himself". He's the most liked (for some reason) player that England has. He is not expected to score 50 goals for England, but he is expected to asisst and give some good
crosses. He didn't do that, so he IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK HE IS. And D) "The Superliga is a low league competition, where as England v. Germany is a BIG game" YOU keep telling me that he is, oh so
good, so if he can't do shit for England, then he IS NOT GOOD. How is he NOT as bad as I think? Oh, and he may have won a Treble with United in '99, but Ronaldinho won a WORLD CUP with Brazil, so I
just want you to know who the better player, overall, is.
after all these exchanges you never got the point? how can one player that you praised for having a good run in last year's la liga become totally shit in a matter of months in your eyes? get it
through your thick skull, i'm not repeating myself anymore - read what you & i have said previously ... and here you go again - how does robinho & ronaldinho factor in to a conversation like
this? its comparing apples to oranges to grapes. i have just concluded that you just say what comes to your head without a real thought process. too bad, i was beginning to have in you. the original
point was aimed at trying to convince that beckham is not bad for the league. please do not be a lawyer - i can guarantee that you will not win any cases.
after all these exchanges you never got the point? how can one player that you praised for having a good run in last year's la liga become totally shit in a matter of months in your eyes? get it
through your thick skull, i'm not repeating myself anymore - read what you & i have said previously ... and here you go again - how does robinho & ronaldinho factor in to a conversation like
this? its comparing apples to oranges to grapes. i have just concluded that you just say what comes to your head without a real thought process. too bad, i was beginning to have in you. the original
point was aimed at trying to convince that beckham is not bad for the league. please do not be a lawyer - i can guarantee that you will not win any cases.
"how can one player that you praised for having a good run in last year's la liga become totally shit in a matter of months?" Here's an example. Ronaldinho. He was better than any player on the
planet in that '05/'06 Champions League Final, in which, ironically, your team was in as well. He was well subdued, but it was he who led the team to the Final. After that Final do you remember what
happened in the World Cup? Even I, have to admit, that he became totally shit in the matter of 1 month. gonzilla, that was dumbest question you can ever ask me. "how does robinho & ronaldinho
factor in to a convers. like this?" Like I said, you don't have good comprehension skills because Robinho and Ronaldinho are examples of what i'm trying to say about Beckham. If you did have GOOD
compre. skills, you would know that, but you don't, so................
"it's like comparing apples to oranges to grapes" Yeah, but there are some similarities between those 3 fruits. They're slightly round, they're sweet, they're juicy, and they're all good for your
health. Plus, all of those fruits are foods that your doctor wants you to eat. I certainly like them, but I bet you don't even know what they are. "I have just concluded that you just say what comes
out to your head without a real thought process." I said that I have a habit of doing that, a few comments ago. I was right....you DON'T have good comprehension skills, because by this comment, it
seems as if you've just figured out what I said.
"the original point was aimed at trying to convince that beckham is not bad for the league" If I said, in any of my comments, that Becks was bad for MLS, I take it back. He's not bad for the league,
I just don't know why everyone, in the US and England praise him, like he's God. "please do not become a lawyer - i can guarantee that you will not win any cases." You know, I hope you know that only
retards laugh at their own wise-cracks/jokes. These little cracks that you say, aren't funny to me, but I still hear someone laughing. YOU. I guess that means you're the retard.
anti Becks and if the rumor mill is true Zindane would make the MLS better...it won't be Premier but it will be better and the MLS does, just like US soccer ........needs to improve......in the world
of futbol there are three regions that dominate.......Europe, Latin America and Africa.......for the US to become respectable more people in the US are going to have to take and interest .....Becks
generates interest.....which may inturn cause that young athelete to be like him and presto chango....you have some (only some) of our best athelets playing futbol instead of the big 3 in the
US......Now of course this is a gamble but one the MLS is willing to take. and i really can't blame them so yes Becks playing for the US might be the first step in making the US a respectable futbol
nation but if we didn't have Beck....MLS and US soccer would not even be worth talking about on this board.
OH! Thank you SoccerCell. You just for proved my point! At the end of your statement you say "...so yes Becks playing for the US might be the first step in making the US a respectable futbol nation
but if we didn't have Beck....MLS and US soccer would not even be worth talking about on this board." gonzilla, he just proved my point! YES, we CAN talk about the MLS and US soccer without Beckham.
Juan Pablo Angel, Guillermo Barros Schelotto, Cuauthemoc Blanco, Fred, Jozy Altidore, Luciano Emilio, Abel Xavier, Landon Donovan! The list goes on and on. The only reason Becks is more popular is
because he more known than the others I mentioned. You 2 praise him, like he's the God of football, like without him the MLS would be boring. NO! There are plenty of greatly skilled and talented
players in MLS, but you 2 only see Beckham. That's a shame.......and that's why I'm saying Becks SUCKS!!!!
and as far as Becks play... he is not the same player we was at Man U but he is still great (sorry anit you have to give him is due) he might not be the great david beckam from a few years ago but
look at the MLS....who is better i mean really better to the point you would have said MLS playing taking free kicks in the world cup besides beckam....i will tell you who...nobody....right now he is
the best free kick taker in MLS and may be the best player (i am a big brian ching fan myself) anti this is like the shaq coming and playing for Greece....is he the same player he was in his dream
team days no but can you think of a better center in Greece.....no.....so let becks do what he does and let the media adore him and say he is the greatest player on US soil b/c right now thats true
and if this hype gets more people interested in the beautiful game then i am all for it.
anti look at who you mentioned............Juan Pablo Angel, Guillermo Barros Schelotto, Cuauthemoc Blanco, Fred, Jozy Altidore, Luciano Emilio, Abel Xavier, Landon Donovan..........are you kidding me
.......these guys can free kick like Becks........come on!!! I mean Donovan gave Becks the Captian armband. if Beckam sucked then this article would not have been written.
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SoccerCell, I get what you're trying to say, but when did I say anything about Angel, Fred, Blanco, etc, taking free-kicks? I just said that MLS would still be very entertaining without "Golden
Balls". Did you not see the young talent in that NY/LA game? I certainly did, when I was there. My attention was NOT focused on Beckham, like everyone else's. I was focused on the game. The game, the
game, the game....
I get that anti and the game is great but Becks makes more people realize how great it is.....Americans like shootouts and if more MLS games were 5-6 or 3-4 for that matter that would genereate
interest.......the media is saying that Becks is the god of futbol in the US but the media is uninformed so i can't blame becks for the hype around him. But in all honesty he is the biggest draw in
American sports right now regardless of his talent level. the know nothing people who heard all the hype about Becks will come to the games and if they like it they will stay and if they don't then
it back to the drawing board for the MLS. Its just embarassing that the worlds games can't compete with NASCAR in the US. thats a joke the worlds game is losing out in the US to a bunch of rednecks
that turn left for 2 hrs.....that has to change
Well, I get what you mean. But, why should we care if some stupid rednecks don't love our sport? Why should we care if they talk trash about it? They're are just nasty-ass, stupid rednecks, who
probably married their sisters. They don't have to like our sport. I mean, do you like NASCAR? I sure as hell don't. And your point about the media and the Beckham hype is what I've been trying to
get to. The media make it seem like he is the God of futbol EVERYWHERE. Like, the sport wouldn't be what it is now, if it weren't for him and blah, blah, blah. All they see is Beckham. They don't see
Ronaldinho, Lionel Messi, Fabio Cannavaro, Zinedine Zidane, etc. If the media people shut their mouths for one minute and took a look at those guys I mentioned, they wouldn't surround Becks when he's
sitting on the bench or when he gets up to warm-up. They'd know that he's the best in MLS, but not everywhere
And that's why I'm trying to tell you and gonz that he is NOT as good as the media are making him out to be.
Well that point is well stated and HELL NO i don't like NASCAR.....i think the US media does not focus on guys like Messi, Zidane, Eto, Kaka and the rest for one simple reason.......they don't play
in the MLS and the media in only worried about the fame not the game and thats the way it is right now.......and gonz made that same point that he is not as good as the media makes him out to be but
i think he still has some Man U magic in him (call me delusional if you want) now is he enough to get the Galaxy to the playoffs........not this year........and yes there is a lot of great talent in
MLS but as you said he is the best in the MLS ....at least for right now
Yes, thank you for getting my point, SoccerCell. You're right, when you say that the media doesn't focus on Messi, Ronaldinho, etc. because they don't play in MLS. But, they focus on Beckham WAY too
much. If the media want the sport to succeed in this country, as I do, they need to open the doors, and show this country Messi, Ronaldinho, Wazza, CR7, etc. Because if they don't, then people might
turn on the channel and see Beckham and they might think that he's the best there is, when, clearly, he's not. If they show more of the players I mentioned, then this sport would be phenomal in this
country. I mean, having my club, FC Barcelona, come here and play 3 games for their pre-season is great. But, they need to focus a little more on Barca, ManU, Milan, etc, if they want people to get
involved with the beautiful game. They have got to stop focusing on just Beckham and show the better guys
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thank friggin GOD somebody said it, but let me say it again "SHUT UP"
Still doesn't proof anything. He still in the list, "Of Retirement". The man of LA Galaxy is London. That British is waste of money, just look LA Galaxy that is far from the play-offs. Alexis Lalas
is an Idiot with capital I, for contracting him. There younger players, cheaper and better than that METROSEXUAL peace of trash.