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Don't sell the Dutch clan just for the sake of it, Mr.Perez

Tuesday, 16 June 09, 07:20 AM · Comments (145)

I woke up today and turned my iPhone on to find an RSS item from the Guardian UK claiming that Florentino Perez is going to sell all of the Dutch players on the squad. Yes, including Sneijder, Huntelaar and Robben.

While I believe that players like Drenthe need to go, I don't understand why we would want to sell Huntelaar and Robben. The first is a predator when it comes to scoring goals and the second is a quality winger that we haven't found his replacment yet. As I said earlier on the blog, If we bring Ribery then we can sell Robben, and from the looks of it, signing Ribery at the moment is quite difficult considering the astronomical fee Bayern are asking.

However, in addition to Drenthe, we could offload Van Nistelrooy and Van der vaart and to some point Sneijder (since we now have Kaka and Ronaldo) but only If we receive a good offer. We shouldn't sell them for whatever we get, If other clubs can't match what we are asking for then they can fu*&k off, as this is how we have been treated by AC Milan, Man UTD and now Valencia.

Perez wants to have a squad of 25 players and he still intends to stuff it with as many Galagcticos as he can get. Alonso, Ribery and Villa are all difficult to sign, and If there was one I'd throw more cash on then it would be Ribery (Yeah I'm gung-ho about him, but no, I'm not gay) so I think we should now concentrate on getting a central defender and a left-back in order to strengthen our shaky defense.

Still, we'd need to offload. But please Mr.Perez, don't do it just for the sake of it. Offload strategically and don't make the same mistakes again. Don't send another Makelele or Eto'o somewhere else

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lovemona
1. lovemona Wrote: | 14.14BST | Jun 16, 2009

for the club sake!! dont sell huntelaar and v.d.v....plz...both of them can make it big just give them time...i sure new season they will show wht the real thing they can do...plz Florentino Perez...hala madrid

Danniel
2. Danniel Wrote: | 14.18BST | Jun 16, 2009

Sneijder's agent said that Sneijder wants to stay =D ....I think he might be really useful if we don't get Alonso...

It was reported that Robben will be sold for 7m and RVN for 1.25m which I think is unbeleivably low...I wouldn't sell Robben for atleast 30/40m or otherwise Robben + 10m for Ribery would also be a good option ;) I would sell RVN for atleast 7m.

As for VDV I think he should be sold and we should just make sure that we get what we paid...as for Drenthe I think he should be loaned not sold...if anything his value can only increase. ;)

I wouldn't sell M.Diarra as he might be very useful...especially if Lass gets injured or suspended.Lastly Saviola(free) & Heinze(5m) should be sold...Liverpool are interested in Saviola and Heinze is attracting PSG & Marseille so we can get rid of both =D

lovemona
3. lovemona Wrote: | 14.23BST | Jun 16, 2009

if want to offload player....just offload...saviola,raul(age),Drenthe(loan),gago(loan),rud,guti(age),salgado(age)
Sneijder(loan)...dont sell huntelaar,robben and v.d.v.....plz..wht do u guys tot???

Madridista4
4. Madridista4 Wrote: | 14.35BST | Jun 16, 2009

Yeah i agree if we get Ribery then we can sell Robben and if we get Alonso then we can sell Sneijder but if we dont then keep them.. I would also like to keep M. Diarra because I think he is fantastic and Gago has been struggling.. anyways no news on Villa yet.. but Bacary Sagna said he would join Real Madrid.. LINK

Bence
5. Bence Wrote: | 15.12BST | Jun 16, 2009

Robben needs to go, he is like a virus destroying the team from the inside.

Otaku-jin
6. Otaku-jin Wrote: | 15.14BST | Jun 16, 2009

Florentino Perez is a Grade A, cream of the crop, top quality, best in show, award winning, idiot.
There should be a restraining order keeping him 100 yards away from the Bernabeu, Valdebebas, the players, managers, staff and supporters.

real fannnn
7. real fannnn Wrote: | 15.17BST | Jun 16, 2009

selling robben would be stupid i rate robben higher as ribery. i mean what has ribery really proven on top level nothing !! cause the budeliga is not in the same league as the la liga. And were saying that robben is injury prone but ribery was this season more injured as robben. I think robben and sneijder should stay the rest can go. ;)

Madrid4Life
8. Madrid4Life Wrote: | 15.27BST | Jun 16, 2009

*DO NOT SELL ROBBEN

Sell Sneider;

*DO NOT SELL VDV

Sell RVN;

*DO NOT SELL HUNTELAAR

Sell Saviola;



*A championship winning team needs a good bench; we could always keep these players.

lovemona
9. lovemona Wrote: | 16.12BST | Jun 16, 2009

keep me hahahaha juz kiding =D

Zeeed
10. Zeeed Wrote: | 16.30BST | Jun 16, 2009

It looks like Valdano is now interested in the services of Karim Benzema if he fails in his attempt to land David Villa.
He also mentioned that neither Zlatan Ibrahimovic nor Diego Forlan are possible signings for the club.
I think Benzema would be the perfect striker to pair with Higuain as he is young, fast, has a good shot and plays well in the air.


Here's the link:

LINK

themadridguy
11. themadridguy Wrote: | 17.08BST | Jun 16, 2009

I'm surprised Gago isn't on the sell list. 8O
M. Diarra should be kept. We should also keep Robben, Huntelaar and Sneijder.

These are the players we should sell (no loaning crap):
Gago,Heinze,Raul,Javi Garcia,Metzelder,Drenthe,Guti,VDV,Saviola,RVN,Salgado.

kid_rock
12. kid_rock Wrote: | 17.09BST | Jun 16, 2009

like Madridista4 mentioned we're targeting Sagna for 22 million !! ,, i think we ought get a decent left back or a full back better than a right back , they say they need a replacment for Sergio Ramos , well why dont we give Castilla's Daniel Opare a chance , this Ghanian lad is amazing and should get his share in the first team instead on wasting millions on players we arent in need of ..

themadridguy
13. themadridguy Wrote: | 17.31BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to kid_rock:

like Madridista4 mentioned we're targeting Sagna for 22 million !! ,, i think we ought get a decent left back or a full back better than a right back , they say they need a replacment for Sergio Ramos , well why dont we give Castilla's Daniel Opare a chance , this Ghanian lad is amazing and should...

Yeah Sagna- first I don't rate him highly, then he is a RB! LOL! Is Perez crazy or what?? 8O We need a CB and a LB for god's sake!
Instead of signing foreign young players, why don't we give Castilla youngsters a chance?? And I also think the reason we don't have more Spanish stars in our team is that Rafa has most of them at Liverpool, which is joke in my opinion.

phantompong
14. phantompong Wrote: | 17.41BST | Jun 16, 2009

IMHO, Madridistas price Robben too highly. Why -

because we look at when he saved our asses, like against Valencia and Villarreal in the middle of the season.

Other clubs look at Robben and see a player with a history of injury, who goes for goal when he should pass and passes when he should go for goal.

Don't get me wrong. I like the guy. His doctor said after this season's injury that Robben will never suffer another major knee injury, and I hope so. If he stays, I'm sure he'll do very well. But when it comes to Robben the club will have no sentimentality (unlike, ahem, Guti and Raul), and other clubs will not care that he is a fan favourite. His price is definitely lower on the market than Ribery or Silva. Don't kid yourselves.

You know, if we get another winger without an injury history and with better team play, I say we let Robben go. Pat him on the back, "great job, we'll miss you", and move on.

I don't understand why we keep going for right-backs, first Maicon, then Sagna. Yes we're thin in that area because Salgado will be moving on this or next season. But Heinze is *definitely* leaving, which leaves us no left-back whatsoever (there's Marcelo, but it's still such an obvious weak spot!) Besides, Sagna isn't going to sit on the bench waiting for Sergio Ramos to get injured, is he? We need a left-back, then we can worry about getting right-back cover!

I'm not too bothered about Villa not coming, but I *will* be bothered if Huntelaar goes and Villa doesn't come. Barcelona is reportedly offering Valencia 50 million euros plus Bojan and Caceres for Villa. I say good for them! They bought Caceres for 16.5mil so that transfer would put Villa above Kaka in total value. That will be... interesting. BUT, if Huntelaar is going to make way for Benzema rather than Villa, I say that's dumb. He's *already* a world-class striker, and Benzema has not had anywhere near the success that Huntelaar has had at international level.

lovemona
15. lovemona Wrote: | 17.50BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to themadridguy:

I'm surprised Gago isn't on the sell list. 8O
M. Diarra should be kept. We should also keep Robben, Huntelaar and Sneijder.

These are the players we should sell (no loaning crap):
Gago,Heinze,Raul,Javi Garcia,Metzelder,Drenthe,Guti,VDV,Saviola,RVN,Salgado.

i think will must keep Metzelder we need a tall defence... =D

themadridguy
16. themadridguy Wrote: | 17.55BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to phantompong:

IMHO, Madridistas price Robben too highly. Why -

because we look at when he saved our asses, like against Valencia and Villarreal in the middle of the season.

Other clubs look at Robben and see a player with a history of injury, who goes for goal when he should pass and...

If we ain't getting any good replacement for Robben than we must keep him. Btw Robben is priced highly 'cause we bought him for 32 million Euros! He is the most expensive signing of the Calderon era I think.

themadridguy
17. themadridguy Wrote: | 17.57BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to lovemona:

Reply to themadridguy:

I'm surprised Gago isn't on the sell list. 8O
M. Diarra should be kept. We should also keep Robben, Huntelaar and Sneijder.

These are the players we should sell (no loaning crap):
Gago,Heinze,Raul,Javi Garcia,Metzelder,Drenthe,Guti,VDV,Saviola,RVN,Salgado.

i think will must keep Metzelder we need a tall defence... =D

He is kinda slow for CB and he has already upset Perez by criticising his high spending.

lovemona
18. lovemona Wrote: | 17.58BST | Jun 16, 2009

if you guys aware of this...we buy player with high price from other club..but when we sell them the price is so cheap..what wrong with that???we must be hard to other club...if they want our player we gv them low price but when we buy from them...the price so insane!!!

themadridguy
19. themadridguy Wrote: | 18.07BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to Zeeed:

It looks like Valdano is now interested in the services of Karim Benzema if he fails in his attempt to land David Villa.
He also mentioned that neither Zlatan Ibrahimovic nor Diego Forlan are possible signings for the club.
I think Benzema would be the perfect striker to pair with...

I didn't think Perez would run out of money so early... I'm disappointed.I thought we were a bigger club. :|

themadridguy
20. themadridguy Wrote: | 18.08BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to lovemona:

if you guys aware of this...we buy player with high price from other club..but when we sell them the price is so cheap..what wrong with that???we must be hard to other club...if they want our player we gv them low price but when we buy from them...the price so insane!!!

I agree with U on that! It's not logical thinking by our club.

themadridguy
21. themadridguy Wrote: | 18.11BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to themadridguy:

Reply to Zeeed:

It looks like Valdano is now interested in the services of Karim Benzema if he fails in his attempt to land David Villa.
He also mentioned that neither Zlatan Ibrahimovic nor Diego Forlan are possible signings for the club.
I think Benzema would be the perfect striker to pair with...

I didn't think Perez would run out of money so early... I'm disappointed.I thought we were a bigger club. :|

Where did the 350 million Euro kitty go?? :?
Or was it just exaggeration by the press?

Zeeed
22. Zeeed Wrote: | 18.23BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to themadridguy:

Reply to themadridguy:
Reply to Zeeed:

It looks like Valdano is now interested in the services of Karim Benzema if he fails in his attempt to land David Villa.
He also mentioned that neither Zlatan Ibrahimovic nor Diego Forlan are possible signings for the club.
I think Benzema would be the perfect striker to pair with...

I didn't think Perez would run out of money so early... I'm disappointed.I thought we were a bigger club. :|

Where did the 350 million Euro kitty go?? :?
Or was it just exaggeration by the press?

I think the original plan was to acquire Villa for 35 million euros and Ribery for 50 million euros and spend what was left over to strengthen the defense. But we are having difficulties acquiring these players so they've been forced to look for other cheaper alternatives to find another striker and winger. Thus, they may save some money for the January window or next summer...

DynastyofRealMadrid
23. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 18.51BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to lovemona:

for the club sake!! dont sell huntelaar and v.d.v....plz...both of them can make it big just give them time...i sure new season they will show wht the real thing they can do...plz Florentino Perez...hala madrid

wut's the need of keeping VDV when u have Kaka and C.ROn?? make some room for those that we need.

lovingthebeautifulgame
24. lovingthebeautifulgame Wrote: | 18.58BST | Jun 16, 2009

what's the logic in selling robben and buying ribery instead. I don't think ribery is better i think robben is better. If robben learns to be a little less selfish and works a bit on his end pass i think he is even better as ronaldo. real should keep sneijder to the rest of the duthc clan can go since i think rvn doesn't get back on his old level but if he does he should stay to.

DynastyofRealMadrid
25. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 19.12BST | Jun 16, 2009

No club will bid Robben more than 20 millions beacuse of his frequent injuries so don't be so optimistic. Whether or not this dutch winger should stay depends on whether or not we can sign one bw silva and ribery. Some people are stupid enought to compare robben with ribery, who only missed several games last season(unlike some ignorance said). They are actually different types of player. Robben is a typical winger while Ribery is more like a attacking midfielder or a playmaker playing in the flank. The dutch is faster and the french is a better passer. i personally think there are 3 factors will force robben to be sold: 1. Injury prone; he almost missed all the important games we played last season. 2. Tactic; Pellegrini don't play typical wingers so robben has to change the way he plays to fit in. 3. Passing lacker; he somewhat lacks of the ability to pass like Messi, Iniesta, Silva, and Ribery. most of time he just dribble but has no idea where has teamates are and ended up strikes the ball by himself. these 3 factors make the dutch winger hard to stay with us.

others are less controversial:
VDV - he should be sold cuz there's no place for him. we've got two of the best attackers and VDV shouldn't waste his career being a bench warmer.

SNEIJDER - I prefer him to rest of the dutchs but i think he needs to change the way he plays if he wants to stay. He lacks the skills of dribbling so we don't wanna waste the spce to use 2 DM to cover him. he gotta improve his defensive skills and transform himself to a CM, Xavi's role. Xavi is even greater in skill level but Barca doesn't need to waste of space to use 1 more additional DM to cover him.

HUNTELAAR - he should stay for 1 more season in my opinion cuz i believe he will be benefited by the arrivals of kaka & CR7. He is the type of 1-touch striker who can't create things to himself like Villa, Benzema, or Eto. But his ability to grasp opportunity is still great.

Riken
26. Riken Wrote: | 19.12BST | Jun 16, 2009

I think Raul should retire to give more space for the young forwards, or he should be benched.
As for the dutch clan I would like all of them to stay and Drenthe to be loaned.

DynastyofRealMadrid
27. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 19.17BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

No club will bid Robben more than 20 millions beacuse of his frequent injuries so don't be so optimistic. Whether or not this dutch winger should stay depends on whether or not we can sign one bw silva and ribery. Some people are stupid enought to compare robben with ribery, who only missed several...

DIARRA - I really don't know what's going wrong here. we can't play with only one holding midfielder, especially we've got some dude like kaka. Gago is the one who should either be sold or loaned, not M.Diarra. i personally won't sell him unless we can get one from Mascherano, De Rossi, Melo, Yaya Toure.

Drenthe, Metzelder, Heinze, Saviola, and Javi Gacia should leave.

chizy5
28. chizy5 Wrote: | 19.29BST | Jun 16, 2009

If david villa goes to brcelona then madrid are in shit barca willonly become better and more dangerous with real playing second fiddle again this new season please Perez try and get that villa we really need him,our ttack needs a villa type of player pus he is spanish international it enhances our stature .we need villa and forget the rauls thats our weak point upfront please accept raul is non longer the player to terrorise any defence.
If Valdano thinks raul and guti will be great again then lets just forget and wait for barcelona to shine again this next season i honestly i do not see how we can challenge the top six teams next season with just kaka and ronaldo .why on earth do we need to sell arjen robben and snieder thats a very wrong decision on his day and when fit arjen robben is one of the best in the world the fact that calderon bought him is no footballing excuse what message are we sending to other players if we have have to offload good players because calderon brought them think twice guys.

lovingthebeautifulgame
29. lovingthebeautifulgame Wrote: | 19.29BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

No club will bid Robben more than 20 millions beacuse of his frequent injuries so don't be so optimistic. Whether or not this dutch winger should stay depends on whether or not we can sign one bw silva and ribery. Some people are stupid enought to compare robben with ribery, who only missed several...

ribery was more injured than robben this season you can look it up if you don't believe it !!! and another reason why you can't say ribery is better because he playes in a total different level football the la liga is with al respect a higher leauge as the budesliga. and the only reason why robben is cheaper as ribery is because his injuryproness thing but his season he was barley injured but he had the bad luck that the times he was injured it was during importent games but that's not his foult.

DynastyofRealMadrid
30. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 19.31BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to phantompong:

IMHO, Madridistas price Robben too highly. Why -

because we look at when he saved our asses, like against Valencia and Villarreal in the middle of the season.

Other clubs look at Robben and see a player with a history of injury, who goes for goal when he should pass and...

well said, i couldn't agree anymore!!

themadridguy
31. themadridguy Wrote: | 19.31BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to Riken:

I think Raul should retire to give more space for the young forwards, or he should be benched.
As for the dutch clan I would like all of them to stay and Drenthe to be loaned.

I don't understand why Perez and co. just simply ask Raul and Guti to retire gracefully than be kicked out with disgrace? I mean are they blind or what??

phantompong
32. phantompong Wrote: | 19.36BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to themadridguy:

Reply to phantompong:

IMHO, Madridistas price Robben too highly. Why -

because we look at when he saved our asses, like against Valencia and Villarreal in the middle of the season.

Other clubs look at Robben and see a player with a history of injury, who goes for goal when he should pass and...

If we ain't getting any good replacement for Robben than we must keep him. Btw Robben is priced highly 'cause we bought him for 32 million Euros! He is the most expensive signing of the Calderon era I think.

Yes, I agree with you - we should only sell him if we have a replacement. No one else cares what we bought him for - Robben to RM was Calderon's election promise, remember, and the only one he could deliver on. Of course Calderon was willing to spend to bring him here. BUT if we do get a good replacement for him, then you just have to say Perez is covering his @$$ well.

I definitely want Huntelaar to stay if we can't get Villa. Benzema is not worth it IMHO. But look, he wants to bring six players in and reduce the squad by three, so nine players have to go out. Last season we had M. Diarra and DLR out. So now we have four players who can play DM/CM. Perez is eyeing Alonso, who also plays that position. He may not get Alonso, but chances are he'll look for a player in that mould and of that quality. That makes five. I'm surprised Gago isn't on the list, but we can loan him out. I'm not sure M. Diarra would have as many loan suitors as Gago; chances are there are teams who want to buy him outright (they're naming Man Utd now). So, well, let's leave it. Someone has to go, and there's no room for sentimentality.

I think, unfortunately, Metzelder's recent comments means he's heading out, too. We'll see. Valdano has said the decision on Garay is up to Pellegrini (which is good), and that we are in talks with Getafe concerning Granero. ALSO, I think we officially have Negredo back, even though he may yet be used in a player exchange. So it's not all bad.

I feel bad for van der Vaart but he should go, especially since 2010 is a World Cup year. He'll never get a chance ahead of Kaka and Guti.

Richard Fielder
33. Richard Fielder Wrote: | 19.52BST | Jun 16, 2009

1) Should go all out to buy David Villa - Should have given Valencia what they want. I can see him sticking a few goals past us next season!

2) Should Buy Forlan

3) If not Villa, buy David Trezeguet.

4) Buy Left back and 2 centre backs.

5) Keep: Robben, Higuain, Pepe, Ramos, L Diarra, Snieder (sub), Huntelaar (sub), Metzelder (sub)

themadridguy
34. themadridguy Wrote: | 20.02BST | Jun 16, 2009

No transfer action since last week. :(
It's becoming dull :?
when is our next signing going to land??

kid_rock
35. kid_rock Wrote: | 20.05BST | Jun 16, 2009

defnsacentral claims that perez has secrertly signed a contract with Forlan ( Forlan's buyout clause is 36 Million )

DynastyofRealMadrid
36. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 20.42BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to lovingthebeautifulgame:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

No club will bid Robben more than 20 millions beacuse of his frequent injuries so don't be so optimistic. Whether or not this dutch winger should stay depends on whether or not we can sign one bw silva and ribery. Some people are stupid enought to compare robben with ribery, who only missed several...

ribery was more injured than robben this season you can look it up if you don't believe it !!! and another reason why you can't say ribery is better because he playes in a total different level football the la liga is with al respect a higher leauge as the budesliga. and the only reason why robben...

jesus crest!! it's no point to argue this!! don't u understand what i said???? i was talking about their playing style okay?? okay, let's assume that we are both injuried prone!! it 's very very stupid to judge Ribery just by the fact that he is playing at Bundesliga!!! he is totally underated. He was superb in world cup 2006!! i didn't say he is BETTER than Robben cuz i CAN't simply make a comparison with two players's actual abilities by the league they played. if Ribery is playing in France or in Netherlands, it's okay. But Bayern Munich is one the best in Europe and i believe the squad we had last season can't even beat them. I will only compare player by the style they play. U obviously don't understand what the difference bw ribery and robben is.

some objective factors Ribery will be more suitable than Robben in Pellegrini's system:

1.) Robben CANNOT provide any small wise shot passes like Messi,Ribery, and Silva do.

2.) playing in the left, Robben can drive down the flank and cross by this is NOT wut is likely to be needed under Pellegrini who relies more on the sidebacks to do this. two side middfielders under Pellegrini are more likely to cut in the middle. Robben can CUT IN, but he just strikes the ball all the time when there were several open men.(according to how he played last season)

Comparing two players with different style is absurb. It only matters which one of them will suit the team more. i don't suggest to sell robben. but i will if we can sign ribery. Robben and higuain are the only two shinning stars in our SHIT squad. however, i don't see them shinning against some BIGGER teams in CL, such as liverpool. that ain't mean they are not good. They are great but our SHIT team made them look better than where they actually are.

AndresMadrid
37. AndresMadrid Wrote: | 20.45BST | Jun 16, 2009

franck ribery :D

LINK

Bestplayersdirectory.com
38. Bestplayersdirectory.com Wrote: | 20.58BST | Jun 16, 2009

Can't they just sell Florentino Perez instead? :D

Except Drenthe I think all are quality players you don't sell overnight.

DynastyofRealMadrid
39. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 21.04BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Reply to lovingthebeautifulgame:
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

No club will bid Robben more than 20 millions beacuse of his frequent injuries so don't be so optimistic. Whether or not this dutch winger should stay depends on whether or not we can sign one bw silva and ribery. Some people are stupid enought to compare robben with ribery, who only missed several...

ribery was more injured than robben this season you can look it up if you don't believe it !!! and another reason why you can't say ribery is better because he playes in a total different level football the la liga is with al respect a higher leauge as the budesliga. and the only reason why robben...

jesus crest!! it's no point to argue this!! don't u understand what i said???? i was talking about their playing style okay?? okay, let's assume that we are both injuried prone!! it 's very very stupid to judge Ribery just by the fact that he is playing at Bundesliga!!! he is totally underated. He...

Frank Ribery have played 25 League games and scored 9 goals, he played all 8 of his CL games and scored 4 gaols.

Arjen Robben played 29 League games but and scored 7 goals, he only scored 1 goal in his 6 CL appearances.

it seems Ribery is "BETTER" if u wanna count on statistics.

themadridguy
40. themadridguy Wrote: | 21.05BST | Jun 16, 2009

I was just curious about this player wages thing. :? I think Real Madrid pay one of the highest salaries to their players in the world, that's why some folks are so intent on staying, including Raul.
Can someone post a link to a site where we can check out their wages?? 8O Or is it legally prohibited??

ludwig Hasbauer
41. ludwig Hasbauer Wrote: | 21.05BST | Jun 16, 2009

the board of directors from bayern munich is in favor of accepting an adequate offer for ribery..this was an official act, but it's not necessaryly a sign that he will be sold..only hoeness now has the official right to sell franck..now it's up to him to force his way to real madrid..by the way I hope real don't buy a 32 year old forlan..I prefer benzema 1000times..

themadridguy
42. themadridguy Wrote: | 21.08BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:

the board of directors from bayern munich is in favor of accepting an adequate offer for ribery..this was an official act, but it's not necessaryly a sign that he will be sold..only hoeness now has the official right to sell franck..now it's up to him to force his way to real madrid..by the way I...

IMAHO Silva=(Ribery+Robben)x 10 =D

Silva is a magic passer of the ball. He was superb in the Confed. Cup game against NZ, and he has got pace too! :P

themadridguy
43. themadridguy Wrote: | 21.09BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to themadridguy:

Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:

the board of directors from bayern munich is in favor of accepting an adequate offer for ribery..this was an official act, but it's not necessaryly a sign that he will be sold..only hoeness now has the official right to sell franck..now it's up to him to force his way to real madrid..by the way I...

IMAHO Silva=(Ribery+Robben)x 10 =D

Silva is a magic passer of the ball. He was superb in the Confed. Cup game against NZ, and he has got pace too! :P

*IMHO :?

Zeeed
44. Zeeed Wrote: | 21.10BST | Jun 16, 2009

I think Ashley Cole would be a good player to pursue to fill our hole at LB. He is also fast, strong defensively and is proven on the European level.
He apparently wants to leave Chelsea and I think he could be ours for 15 million euros.
If we can get Raul Albiol to fill our hole at CB that should give us strong backline of Ramos, Pepe, Albiol and Cole. We would also have Lass to protect our backline as he can fill in at fullback if either of Cole or Ramos push forward. This backline would also allow our attacking players to feel comfortable moving forward in attack.

themadridguy
45. themadridguy Wrote: | 21.13BST | Jun 16, 2009

I don't know what the fuss is about Ribery! 8O He doesn't even make the headlines in the football world like Ronaldo, Kaka etc. or even as much as our own Robben!
I need convincing! Although Robben is not good too!
Bring in Silva: is cheap and no-nonsense player.

themadridguy
46. themadridguy Wrote: | 21.15BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to Zeeed:

I think Ashley Cole would be a good player to pursue to fill our hole at LB. He is also fast, strong defensively and is proven on the European level.
He apparently wants to leave Chelsea and I think he could be ours for 15 million euros.
If we can get Raul Albiol to fill our hole at CB...

Cole would cost aroun 25-30 million I think and his wages are sky-high at Chelsea!

DynastyofRealMadrid
47. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 21.17BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to themadridguy:

I don't know what the fuss is about Ribery! 8O He doesn't even make the headlines in the football world like Ronaldo, Kaka etc. or even as much as our own Robben!
I need convincing! Although Robben is not good too!
Bring in Silva: is cheap and no-nonsense player.

agree on this one!

Zeeed
48. Zeeed Wrote: | 21.22BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to themadridguy:

Reply to Zeeed:

I think Ashley Cole would be a good player to pursue to fill our hole at LB. He is also fast, strong defensively and is proven on the European level.
He apparently wants to leave Chelsea and I think he could be ours for 15 million euros.
If we can get Raul Albiol to fill our hole at CB...

Cole would cost aroun 25-30 million I think and his wages are sky-high at Chelsea!

Sorry, I meant 15 million pounds. :?
He is one option among others. I also think we should take a closer look at Lahm (first choice), Grosso, Capdevila, Zhirkov, etc. because we definitely need a true left back which was apparent all of last season with Heinze and Marcelo.
I don't like the idea of getting a right back like Arbeloa or Maicon and switching them to the left side or pushing Ramos to the middle because I feel that he is already one of the best right backs in the world.

DynastyofRealMadrid
49. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 21.23BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Reply to themadridguy:

I don't know what the fuss is about Ribery! 8O He doesn't even make the headlines in the football world like Ronaldo, Kaka etc. or even as much as our own Robben!
I need convincing! Although Robben is not good too!
Bring in Silva: is cheap and no-nonsense player.

agree on this one!

however, how many HEADLINES one made has nth to do with whether a player is good or not!! Ribery should be doubted with his ability. it's hard for an ungly looking player to become a superstar like CR7 and Kaka unless they can have some sensational performances in some "major league". I dare say CR7 and Kaka wouldn't have been as famous as they are now if they play at France or Germany.

Ronaldinho was already playing in a superstar level when he was in PSG but it was until his arrival to Barca makes him getting recognized world-wild.

themadridguy
50. themadridguy Wrote: | 21.49BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to Zeeed:

Reply to themadridguy:
Reply to Zeeed:

I think Ashley Cole would be a good player to pursue to fill our hole at LB. He is also fast, strong defensively and is proven on the European level.
He apparently wants to leave Chelsea and I think he could be ours for 15 million euros.
If we can get Raul Albiol to fill our hole at CB...

Cole would cost aroun 25-30 million I think and his wages are sky-high at Chelsea!

Sorry, I meant 15 million pounds. :?
He is one option among others. I also think we should take a closer look at Lahm (first choice), Grosso, Capdevila, Zhirkov, etc. because we definitely need a true left back which was apparent all of last season with Heinze and Marcelo.
I don't...

Why do we always go after players who are unavailable or unlikely to come to us?? =D

themadridguy
51. themadridguy Wrote: | 21.53BST | Jun 16, 2009

According to realmadrid.com Ronaldo has scored 150 goals in 7 years, meaning an avg. of 21.5 goals per season! 8O
On that rate we only need a lone striker up-front (Higuain/Hunter/Negredo) and we can do well. 8)

Caracoleo
52. Caracoleo Wrote: | 22.25BST | Jun 16, 2009

Reply to kid_rock:

defnsacentral claims that perez has secrertly signed a contract with Forlan ( Forlan's buyout clause is 36 Million )

Atletico's president, Cerezo, has complained that 'other clubs' are using his team to pursue other players. In other words, pretending that they are interested in an Atletico player just to show that they are not desperate for one David Villa.

I believe that Forlan is a decoy, to make Villa pressurise Valencia to drop their demands.

On the subject of the Dutch; it is patently clear that most need to go. I would not mind if Sneijder or Huntelaar stayed if we couldn't sign anyone else. But it would also be very bad to have Sneijder languishing on the bench for most of the season. Bad for morale, bad for business and bad for our image. Can't do to him what we did to Saviola, Faubert etc...

The same goes for Robben + VDV.

Madridista4
53. Madridista4 Wrote: | 22.33BST | Jun 16, 2009

Sagna has denied the link so he might be out the of the picture now.. also there is a report that says juventus are in Madrid to negotiate the transfer of M. Diarra.. I like him a lot and I rather keep him than Gago.. but any word on Ronaldo medical, or Villa today?

Danniel
54. Danniel Wrote: | 00.16BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to themadridguy:

Reply to themadridguy:
Reply to Zeeed:

It looks like Valdano is now interested in the services of Karim Benzema if he fails in his attempt to land David Villa.
He also mentioned that neither Zlatan Ibrahimovic nor Diego Forlan are possible signings for the club.
I think Benzema would be the perfect striker to pair with...

I didn't think Perez would run out of money so early... I'm disappointed.I thought we were a bigger club. :|

Where did the 350 million Euro kitty go?? :?
Or was it just exaggeration by the press?

well its pretty obvious that we're out of cash...

1)Perez wants to sell a big list of players

2)Villa was NOT bought and we accepted defeat

3)It seem a loan was taken from the banks LINK

Money is NOT unlimited and that's why I thought Kaka's signing was not a "need" and therefore should not have been bought....now we're going to struggle to even get a decent left-back and a centre-back :?

DynastyofRealMadrid
55. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 00.46BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to Danniel:

Reply to themadridguy:
Reply to themadridguy:

I didn't think Perez would run out of money so early... I'm disappointed.I thought we were a bigger club. :|

Where did the 350 million Euro kitty go?? :?
Or was it just exaggeration by the press?

well its pretty obvious that we're out of cash...

1)Perez wants to sell a big list of players

2)Villa was NOT bought and we accepted defeat

3)It seem a loan was taken from the banks...

u can say the kaka signing is not as "Urgent" as certain other positions but u can't say he is not a "need" if none of those ACM we have are as good as kaka.

lovemona
56. lovemona Wrote: | 01.31BST | Jun 17, 2009

i hope Perez know wht he trying to do...with all the money,loan and offload of player...i dont know if the plan will work..if with all the money we spend and the result still the same??how??i see kaka play..and i dare to say snijder is same level as him..you may not agree with me but u do the ovserve...see our rud..how much we gona sell him??1m somthing..he is better than any strike we have...but coz of age and injure we hv to let go...from the start i dont agree with the big spending..i kill us all the fan and the club...but i gust Perez know wht he trying to do..

Madridista09
57. Madridista09 Wrote: | 02.07BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to themadridguy:

Reply to Riken:

I think Raul should retire to give more space for the young forwards, or he should be benched.
As for the dutch clan I would like all of them to stay and Drenthe to be loaned.

I don't understand why Perez and co. just simply ask Raul and Guti to retire gracefully than be kicked out with disgrace? I mean are they blind or what??

Because they are our leaders!

If Raul and Guti leaves then who will keep Cristiana Ronalda and company under control?
Cmon man a real Madridista would not want Raul to be sold. Raul will accept a bench role, but to sell Raul? It questions me how long you been a Madrid fan.

Raul said he would retire in two seasons. Raul is a icon, you dont sell Raul. Its like Juventus selling Del Piero or Milan selling Maldini.

Madridista09
58. Madridista09 Wrote: | 02.12BST | Jun 17, 2009

I rather have Robben then Ribery. If Robben opens his eyes he can be one of the world best.

I would sell: Saviola, VDV, RVN, Drenthe,Heinze, M.Diarra or Gago (not both.

Loan out Javi Garcia and Dani Parejo. Im surprised he didnt called up for Spain's U-21.

DynastyofRealMadrid
59. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 02.14BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to lovemona:

i hope Perez know wht he trying to do...with all the money,loan and offload of player...i dont know if the plan will work..if with all the money we spend and the result still the same??how??i see kaka play..and i dare to say snijder is same level as him..you may not agree with me but u do the...

Sneijder is at the same level as Kaka??? what 's wrong with u?? u can say Drenthe is as good as CR7!! do what observe??? that is insane to say so. Sneijder has not yet had any convincible performance to prove that he can be as good as kaka. take a look at the 06/07 season. take a look at how Kaka led Milan to win the CL with his own feet. Moreover, their styles are totally different. I really doubt ur football knowledge!!

Madridista4
60. Madridista4 Wrote: | 03.38BST | Jun 17, 2009

What the papers are saying are that the 6 dutch players will be sold plus Heinze, M Diarra, and Saviola.. Only sell Robben if we buy a new left winger (Ribery who papers now say we have 55 million saved up for) and Sneijder should stay because we need someone to back up our players like Kaka.. Why not sell Javi Garcia he has not done anything since he came back.. plus Id like to get back Granero who would be a fantastic sub for our wingers we might have a strong 11 with the players we bought and are going to buy but we need to have a strong bench as well

lovemona
61. lovemona Wrote: | 03.57BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Reply to lovemona:

i hope Perez know wht he trying to do...with all the money,loan and offload of player...i dont know if the plan will work..if with all the money we spend and the result still the same??how??i see kaka play..and i dare to say snijder is same level as him..you may not agree with me but u do the...

Sneijder is at the same level as Kaka??? what 's wrong with u?? u can say Drenthe is as good as CR7!! do what observe??? that is insane to say so. Sneijder has not yet had any convincible performance to prove that he can be as good as kaka. take a look at the 06/07 season. take a look at how Kaka...

ac milan...last standing this 08/09 season..3rd place..even with kaka there still they only finish 3rd???did kaka gv them trofi this season??any trofi???so if here we finish 2nd so with kaka on the team are u ensure we finish top???with snijder he not given a starting 11..when ramon take over he always on the bench...

phantompong
62. phantompong Wrote: | 04.19BST | Jun 17, 2009

Obviously there is some case to be made for Capdevila at LB, Pellegrini managed him at Villarreal and he's a top Spanish player so that would fit Perez's mission of getting more Spanish blood in the team. However my concern with Capdevila is his age. He's still performing at a very high level, but in three seasons we'll need to get someone else. Same for Grosso.

I'm honestly surprised Yuri Zhirkov hasn't already moved to one of the major leagues. But somehow I don't think Zhirkov is in Perez's plans at all. I'm baffled, again, at why we keep getting linked to right-backs. Maicon, Sagna, and now Arbeloa especially since Benitez has gone out and inexplicably bought Glen Johnson!

Also regarding letting Villa go - word is that Barcelona are offering either 50 million euros or 40 million plus Caceres (who they bought for 16.5 million) AND that Valencia want Bojan in a player + cash swap. Can we top that? Valdano is right, there's no point playing that game, especially since - unlike Ronaldo and Kaka (who has said Real are the only club he would leave Milan for) - Villa is not set on a move to Madrid, so we have no advantage in negotiations. I say for what it's worth, we keep Huntelaar and spend that money on Ribery instead.

DynastyofRealMadrid
63. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 04.28BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to lovemona:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to lovemona:

i hope Perez know wht he trying to do...with all the money,loan and offload of player...i dont know if the plan will work..if with all the money we spend and the result still the same??how??i see kaka play..and i dare to say snijder is same level as him..you may not agree with me but u do the...

Sneijder is at the same level as Kaka??? what 's wrong with u?? u can say Drenthe is as good as CR7!! do what observe??? that is insane to say so. Sneijder has not yet had any convincible performance to prove that he can be as good as kaka. take a look at the 06/07 season. take a look at how Kaka...

ac milan...last standing this 08/09 season..3rd place..even with kaka there still they only finish 3rd???did kaka gv them trofi this season??any trofi???so if here we finish 2nd so with kaka on the team are u ensure we finish top???with snijder he not given a starting 11..when ramon take over he...

Sneijder started all almost all the games under juande. He was benched cuz he is INJURIED and he has not yet fully recovered now. Please be more objective and don't look at things basically just by some meaningless statistics. Kaka missed lots of games last season because he was injuried too. He struggled playing with Ronaldinho. AC milan struggle not only because of Kaka, It's the whole team's problem. if a team doesn't play like a team, even Pepe or maradona can't help. Their weak central backlines and lacks of strong box striker bothered them for 2 seasons.

just simply ask urself a simple question, do u think those who voted for kaka to be the FIFA world player are blind??? if the answer is not. You shouldn't doubt his quality. And it sounds ridiculous to blame Milan's failure to kaka. u gotta know that at least he brought a CL trophy to them, has Sneijder done anything to us in CL yet?? i haven't seen any yet. You can't compare players with some ridiculous evidence .

Can u even point out something specific to prove that Sneijder is as good as kaka.

for me, i won't make such a meaningless comparison cuz they are not the same type of players. except for set pieces and long range shots, i don't see anything that Sneijder is near kaka's level. Can he simply beat his marker?? can he dribble through defenders with speed and skill to create open space?? i don't see any yet. It doesn't mean i don't think sneijder sucks. He is a great player for me. But i don't want to see him in the ACM position that we have to use two holding midfielders to cover him up, while he can't even dribble. For kaka, i think it's worthy. Ur what so called "observation" seems kinda inconvincible.

DynastyofRealMadrid
64. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 04.30BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Reply to lovemona:
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Sneijder is at the same level as Kaka??? what 's wrong with u?? u can say Drenthe is as good as CR7!! do what observe??? that is insane to say so. Sneijder has not yet had any convincible performance to prove that he can be as good as kaka. take a look at the 06/07 season. take a look at how Kaka...

ac milan...last standing this 08/09 season..3rd place..even with kaka there still they only finish 3rd???did kaka gv them trofi this season??any trofi???so if here we finish 2nd so with kaka on the team are u ensure we finish top???with snijder he not given a starting 11..when ramon take over he...

Sneijder started all almost all the games under juande. He was benched cuz he is INJURIED and he has not yet fully recovered now. Please be more objective and don't look at things basically just by some meaningless statistics. Kaka missed lots of games last season because he was injuried too. He...

and i dare say that if we don't strengthen the back line, we will still fail this season no matter how fantastic our attackers are. Don't u think that only kaka and CR7 can lead us to beat barca?? football is a 11 player game.

themadridguy
65. themadridguy Wrote: | 05.44BST | Jun 17, 2009

What's holding back the CR7 official confirmation as Real Madrid player?? Anyone know? It's all gone quiet about him lately.

Madridista09
66. Madridista09 Wrote: | 06.10BST | Jun 17, 2009

Lass has played left back before... I also believe M.Diarra has played centre back.

but we need atleast 2-3 new centre backs along with a left back. I really wish Lucio would play in the white shirt!

How about a move on Micah Richards or Per Mertasacker?

Madridista09
67. Madridista09 Wrote: | 06.15BST | Jun 17, 2009

Sneijder is good talent though, no doubt about that. But he cant be comparable to Kaka. I hope he stays though, he can set up some very nice crosses/passes and at free kicks is probably better then kaka.
Sneijder can be a super sub.

TheAngelOfMadrid
68. TheAngelOfMadrid Wrote: | 06.18BST | Jun 17, 2009

Here's my opinion on all of the Dutchmen;

Drenthe: Absolutely no question, he hasn't been near good enough to continue. Immense potential wasted by an immature transfer to the biggest club in the world. SELL

VDV: He used to be rated as one of the best in the world but we signed him for an imaginary position we still haven't figured out. His price tag was nice but he was certianly no winger or better yet, a Christiano Ronaldo. SELL

Sneijder: If there's one player on our squad who is hugley under-appreciated it's this man. A monster when 80% fit, he is absolutely amazing, for club and country. His performances in 07/08 and in the Euros justify he is top class but sadly he couldn't shake off a bad injury...screw Diaby. Sneijder is a player of the highest quality and he's the perfect back-up to Kaka, we don't need no Gago, just M.Diarra and Sneijder and hopefully DLR. KEEP

RVN: This one's an extremely tough descision. He's one of the only players in the squad who I would salute and I wouldn't even salute Raul. Whenever he plays, he plays at a high level and is the most deadly finisher to ever live. Sadly, he's 34 and we'll probably sign another striker and already own his successor, Huntelaar. UNSURE

Huntelaar: WTF!? This one shouldn't even be disputed. We paid 20m for him, played him in the wrong way most of the time yet still got 8 goals. It's only been 6 months! Selling him is very stupid. He's a top-class striker..one of the only old-fashioned ones left. Huntelaar should get another shot. KEEP

Robben: Ahh..the glass-man, right? Robben, the player who any team would love to sign, one the only top-class players we have on our entire squad? How can any of you be so unjust as to be willing to sell the Flying Dutchman after him, Higuain and Lass brought us the hope of winning the La liga. A match winner he is and a menace for Netherlands too. What has he done to go? Not pass? Hah, I guess most of you will get fed up with Ronaldo quickly. KEEP

themadridguy
69. themadridguy Wrote: | 06.26BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:

Here's my opinion on all of the Dutchmen;

Drenthe: Absolutely no question, he hasn't been near good enough to continue. Immense potential wasted by an immature transfer to the biggest club in the world. SELL

VDV: He used to be rated as one of the best in the world but...

What?? CR7 doesn't pass?? Are u kidding me? He passes 100 times more than Robben!

themadridguy
70. themadridguy Wrote: | 06.33BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to themadridguy:

I don't know what the fuss is about Ribery! 8O He doesn't even make the headlines in the football world like Ronaldo, Kaka etc. or even as much as our own Robben!
I need convincing! Although Robben is not good too!
Bring in Silva: is cheap and no-nonsense player.

agree on this one!

however, how many HEADLINES one made has nth to do with whether a player is good or not!! Ribery should be doubted with his ability. it's hard for an ungly looking player to become a superstar like CR7 and Kaka unless they can have some sensational performances in some "major league". I dare say...

Sign Silva instead of Ribery!

TheAngelOfMadrid
71. TheAngelOfMadrid Wrote: | 06.34BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to themadridguy:

Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:

Here's my opinion on all of the Dutchmen;

Drenthe: Absolutely no question, he hasn't been near good enough to continue. Immense potential wasted by an immature transfer to the biggest club in the world. SELL

VDV: He used to be rated as one of the best in the world but...

What?? CR7 doesn't pass?? Are u kidding me? He passes 100 times more than Robben!

Oh please, Ronaldo's just as selfish as Robben. Its just that at Utd, the team was made around him and it's going be totally different now. Wait and see, I can see you're a Ronaldo fan by your display picture but be rational. I have big doubts over Ronaldo, he could be another Beckham but I hope i'm wrong.

realmadrid_a10
72. realmadrid_a10 Wrote: | 07.00BST | Jun 17, 2009



This should be our 25 man squad next year:
GK: IKER, codian, adan (castilla GK)
DEF: Pepe, Ramos, Garay, Metzelder, Torres, Clichy, Zapata
MID: Sneijder, Robben, Ronaldo, Gago, De la Red, M + L Diarra, Marcelo, Granero, Kaka, VDV
FOW: Higuain, RVN, Hunter, Negredo

I know that guti and raul will be in there, and this is a problem.

Have u guys heard of any negotiations with defenders? maybe bruno alves, zapata, vidic, clichy and cole?

themadridguy
73. themadridguy Wrote: | 07.09BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:

Reply to themadridguy:
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:

Here's my opinion on all of the Dutchmen;

Drenthe: Absolutely no question, he hasn't been near good enough to continue. Immense potential wasted by an immature transfer to the biggest club in the world. SELL

VDV: He used to be rated as one of the best in the world but...

What?? CR7 doesn't pass?? Are u kidding me? He passes 100 times more than Robben!

Oh please, Ronaldo's just as selfish as Robben. Its just that at Utd, the team was made around him and it's going be totally different now. Wait and see, I can see you're a Ronaldo fan by your display picture but be rational. I have big doubts over Ronaldo, he could be another Beckham but I hope i'm...

From the matches I have seen of him playing for Portugal and Man Utd he looks less than half as selfish as Robben!

DynastyofRealMadrid
74. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 07.25BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to themadridguy:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

agree on this one!

however, how many HEADLINES one made has nth to do with whether a player is good or not!! Ribery should be doubted with his ability. it's hard for an ungly looking player to become a superstar like CR7 and Kaka unless they can have some sensational performances in some "major league". I dare say...

Sign Silva instead of Ribery!

it looks smarter to do so!

lovemona
75. lovemona Wrote: | 07.26BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Reply to lovemona:
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Sneijder is at the same level as Kaka??? what 's wrong with u?? u can say Drenthe is as good as CR7!! do what observe??? that is insane to say so. Sneijder has not yet had any convincible performance to prove that he can be as good as kaka. take a look at the 06/07 season. take a look at how Kaka...

ac milan...last standing this 08/09 season..3rd place..even with kaka there still they only finish 3rd???did kaka gv them trofi this season??any trofi???so if here we finish 2nd so with kaka on the team are u ensure we finish top???with snijder he not given a starting 11..when ramon take over he...

Sneijder started all almost all the games under juande. He was benched cuz he is INJURIED and he has not yet fully recovered now. Please be more objective and don't look at things basically just by some meaningless statistics. Kaka missed lots of games last season because he was injuried too. He...

a men that was few year ago...he not the same anymore...with all the injuried he have..he not the same kaka when win the "CL"..do u see brazil vs egyp??ya he score a goal...but most of the game i didt see anything special from him..its just normal..and ya football is 11player..so with or without him what will be the diffent???sending so much like that???dont see the past result..see the present..wht did he acomplish past year...ya mybe the past he ths so call great player...but now..he is normal...if talk about ronaldo ya he the best.he the world best..but kaka..i dont think so...

lovemona
76. lovemona Wrote: | 07.26BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to lovemona:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to lovemona:

ac milan...last standing this 08/09 season..3rd place..even with kaka there still they only finish 3rd???did kaka gv them trofi this season??any trofi???so if here we finish 2nd so with kaka on the team are u ensure we finish top???with snijder he not given a starting 11..when ramon take over he...

Sneijder started all almost all the games under juande. He was benched cuz he is INJURIED and he has not yet fully recovered now. Please be more objective and don't look at things basically just by some meaningless statistics. Kaka missed lots of games last season because he was injuried too. He...

a men that was few year ago...he not the same anymore...with all the injuried he have..he not the same kaka when win the "CL"..do u see brazil vs egyp??ya he score a goal...but most of the game i didt see anything special from him..its just normal..and ya football is 11player..so with or without him...

*spending

DynastyofRealMadrid
77. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 07.49BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to lovemona:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to lovemona:

ac milan...last standing this 08/09 season..3rd place..even with kaka there still they only finish 3rd???did kaka gv them trofi this season??any trofi???so if here we finish 2nd so with kaka on the team are u ensure we finish top???with snijder he not given a starting 11..when ramon take over he...

Sneijder started all almost all the games under juande. He was benched cuz he is INJURIED and he has not yet fully recovered now. Please be more objective and don't look at things basically just by some meaningless statistics. Kaka missed lots of games last season because he was injuried too. He...

a men that was few year ago...he not the same anymore...with all the injuried he have..he not the same kaka when win the "CL"..do u see brazil vs egyp??ya he score a goal...but most of the game i didt see anything special from him..its just normal..and ya football is 11player..so with or without him...

saying kaka's arrival wouldn't make a difference is absurb!! let's forgot about the past then!! but what evidence u were bring out?? last year??? it's already past dude, don't make me laugh!! how would u have the "super natural" power to predict that kaka MUST NOT play well in real madrid?? i want to learn cuz i think it might improve my predicting skills on gambling. besides, i gotta tell u something. Yes, indeed, football is played by 11 men and the most important thing is how to balance. With a guy like kaka will undoubtedly strengthen us offensively but we still gotta do sth defensively. past??? come on dude, kaka is only 27, he is not yet 30 and not yet dying like our captain Raul!! he still has the ability to kick back to the level he belongs to. his peak might have passed already but at least he shows us that he COULD actually accomplish something that none of the players in our squad has done.(except our legend Raul....sry to say this)!! and in terms of likelihood of occuring, i will tell u "yes" he still has the chance to be the kaka he used to be in a more offensive league. if kaka is 30, i will say his time is over regarding to the way he plays. but he is only 27, it's too early to say he is done!!

lovemona
78. lovemona Wrote: | 07.55BST | Jun 17, 2009

say wht u want to say about kaka..he great what so ever...i still think its will not make any diffrent...what make a team win a cup or trofi is not a superstar player...it all about play as a team,brave,play for the game not about money they get,never give up even if we about to loss..keep pushing untill 90minute..never give up..have the hunger for winning in each game....we dont need all this new player..u guys agree or not i dont care..why spending so much for a 1 player??i still have faith on snijder and v.d.v..and huntelaar..

Danniel
79. Danniel Wrote: | 08.00BST | Jun 17, 2009

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Sneijder is at the same level as Kaka??? what 's wrong with u?? u can say Drenthe is as good as CR7!! do what observe??? that is insane to say so. Sneijder has not yet had any convincible performance to prove that he can be as good as kaka. take a look at the 06/07 season. take a look at how Kaka...

ac milan...last standing this 08/09 season..3rd place..even with kaka there still they only finish 3rd???did kaka gv them trofi this season??any trofi???so if here we finish 2nd so with kaka on the team are u ensure we finish top???with snijder he not given a starting 11..when ramon take over he...

Sneijder started all almost all the games under juande. He was benched cuz he is INJURIED and he has not yet fully recovered now. Please be more objective and don't look at things basically just by some meaningless statistics. Kaka missed lots of games last season because he was injuried too. He...

Look....Kaka seems to be on the down hill....his form is starting to get worse and worse....hope it was just one season...

As for Sneijder he is certainly up hill...and he showed he can play really well EVEN when played out of position (all the matches in a R.Madrid shirt).Also when he got injured he showed real determination to get back from injury.

So why do you spend 65m when there is such little difference between them,you're out of money, and we already have Sneijder and VDV? Also you have to learn what is a NEED...a need is when there is something you can't do withouth...in real life situation it's food for example....a luxury is something you can do withouth...a microwave to warm up your food for example....i certainly think Kaka is not a need but a luxury and he can never be a need when out squad is full of attacking midfielders.

Danniel
80. Danniel Wrote: | 08.01BST | Jun 17, 2009

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ac milan...last standing this 08/09 season..3rd place..even with kaka there still they only finish 3rd???did kaka gv them trofi this season??any trofi???so if here we finish 2nd so with kaka on the team are u ensure we finish top???with snijder he not given a starting 11..when ramon take over he...

Sneijder started all almost all the games under juande. He was benched cuz he is INJURIED and he has not yet fully recovered now. Please be more objective and don't look at things basically just by some meaningless statistics. Kaka missed lots of games last season because he was injuried too. He...

Look....Kaka seems to be on the down hill....his form is starting to get worse and worse....hope it was just one season...

As for Sneijder he is certainly up hill...and he showed he can play really well EVEN when played out of position (all the matches in a R.Madrid shirt).Also when...

*our

lovemona
81. lovemona Wrote: | 08.03BST | Jun 17, 2009

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Sneijder started all almost all the games under juande. He was benched cuz he is INJURIED and he has not yet fully recovered now. Please be more objective and don't look at things basically just by some meaningless statistics. Kaka missed lots of games last season because he was injuried too. He...

a men that was few year ago...he not the same anymore...with all the injuried he have..he not the same kaka when win the "CL"..do u see brazil vs egyp??ya he score a goal...but most of the game i didt see anything special from him..its just normal..and ya football is 11player..so with or without him...

saying kaka's arrival wouldn't make a difference is absurb!! let's forgot about the past then!! but what evidence u were bring out?? last year??? it's already past dude, don't make me laugh!! how would u have the "super natural" power to predict that kaka MUST NOT play well in real madrid?? i want...

for me he is done...nothig special about him anymore..JUST NORMAL...evidence???i ask u...do u see he play like he use to play year ago??do see he do drible a ball and pass maybe 2 or 3 defender????like the old time???like he do when ac milan vs man u...accept the faith dude..he not the same anymore..i think about the club not a bout a player that cant accept the fact he is a real madrid player now!!!...and keep saying my heart always be with milan!!!

Madrid4Life
82. Madrid4Life Wrote: | 08.04BST | Jun 17, 2009

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ac milan...last standing this 08/09 season..3rd place..even with kaka there still they only finish 3rd???did kaka gv them trofi this season??any trofi???so if here we finish 2nd so with kaka on the team are u ensure we finish top???with snijder he not given a starting 11..when ramon take over he...

Sneijder started all almost all the games under juande. He was benched cuz he is INJURIED and he has not yet fully recovered now. Please be more objective and don't look at things basically just by some meaningless statistics. Kaka missed lots of games last season because he was injuried too. He...

Look....Kaka seems to be on the down hill....his form is starting to get worse and worse....hope it was just one season...

As for Sneijder he is certainly up hill...and he showed he can play really well EVEN when played out of position (all the matches in a R.Madrid shirt).Also when...

Eh? Even sneider himself said he isn't happy about his performance this season... And kakas first goal against egypt absolutely refutes your whole post...

lovemona
83. lovemona Wrote: | 08.07BST | Jun 17, 2009

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ac milan...last standing this 08/09 season..3rd place..even with kaka there still they only finish 3rd???did kaka gv them trofi this season??any trofi???so if here we finish 2nd so with kaka on the team are u ensure we finish top???with snijder he not given a starting 11..when ramon take over he...

Sneijder started all almost all the games under juande. He was benched cuz he is INJURIED and he has not yet fully recovered now. Please be more objective and don't look at things basically just by some meaningless statistics. Kaka missed lots of games last season because he was injuried too. He...

Look....Kaka seems to be on the down hill....his form is starting to get worse and worse....hope it was just one season...

As for Sneijder he is certainly up hill...and he showed he can play really well EVEN when played out of position (all the matches in a R.Madrid shirt).Also when...

i agree with you...101%

Danniel
84. Danniel Wrote: | 08.15BST | Jun 17, 2009

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Sneijder started all almost all the games under juande. He was benched cuz he is INJURIED and he has not yet fully recovered now. Please be more objective and don't look at things basically just by some meaningless statistics. Kaka missed lots of games last season because he was injuried too. He...

Look....Kaka seems to be on the down hill....his form is starting to get worse and worse....hope it was just one season...

As for Sneijder he is certainly up hill...and he showed he can play really well EVEN when played out of position (all the matches in a R.Madrid shirt).Also when...

Eh? Even sneider himself said he isn't happy about his performance this season... And kakas first goal against egypt absolutely refutes your whole post...

Some of his performances weren't so good....but some were....keep in mind he never plays in his position...

By saying Kaka's career is going downhill I'm not saying he's bad...or that he can't produce moments of brilliance...but a single moment doesn't mean his career is still not on a downhill


I have some (highly unbeleivable) news about Heinze,Robben & Huntelaar who according to this article....may leave for 30m!!!!If this happens I will probably go mad because this is SO stupid!!!LINK%C2%A330m-real-madrid-trio-251243

lovemona
85. lovemona Wrote: | 08.17BST | Jun 17, 2009

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Sneijder started all almost all the games under juande. He was benched cuz he is INJURIED and he has not yet fully recovered now. Please be more objective and don't look at things basically just by some meaningless statistics. Kaka missed lots of games last season because he was injuried too. He...

Look....Kaka seems to be on the down hill....his form is starting to get worse and worse....hope it was just one season...

As for Sneijder he is certainly up hill...and he showed he can play really well EVEN when played out of position (all the matches in a R.Madrid shirt).Also when...

Eh? Even sneider himself said he isn't happy about his performance this season... And kakas first goal against egypt absolutely refutes your whole post...

ya he score a goal..so what??do u see the whole game???do you see him drible and pass a player 2 or 3???its just normal..and about sneijder..he have a family problem in his head..and even if he injured he keep pushing to play..he care for the club..he love real madrid..not like kaka still think he a milan player...bulshit!!!

Danniel
86. Danniel Wrote: | 08.18BST | Jun 17, 2009

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Look....Kaka seems to be on the down hill....his form is starting to get worse and worse....hope it was just one season...

As for Sneijder he is certainly up hill...and he showed he can play really well EVEN when played out of position (all the matches in a R.Madrid shirt).Also when...

Eh? Even sneider himself said he isn't happy about his performance this season... And kakas first goal against egypt absolutely refutes your whole post...

Some of his performances weren't so good....but some were....keep in mind he never plays in his position...

By saying Kaka's career is going downhill I'm not saying he's bad...or that he can't produce moments of brilliance...but a single moment doesn't mean his career is still not on...

This is the link again....
LINK%C2%A330m-real-madrid-trio-251243

lovemona
87. lovemona Wrote: | 08.19BST | Jun 17, 2009

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Look....Kaka seems to be on the down hill....his form is starting to get worse and worse....hope it was just one season...

As for Sneijder he is certainly up hill...and he showed he can play really well EVEN when played out of position (all the matches in a R.Madrid shirt).Also when...

Eh? Even sneider himself said he isn't happy about his performance this season... And kakas first goal against egypt absolutely refutes your whole post...

Some of his performances weren't so good....but some were....keep in mind he never plays in his position...

By saying Kaka's career is going downhill I'm not saying he's bad...or that he can't produce moments of brilliance...but a single moment doesn't mean his career is still not on...

dont sell huntelaar!!!we a dome.. :(

Danniel
88. Danniel Wrote: | 08.27BST | Jun 17, 2009

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Eh? Even sneider himself said he isn't happy about his performance this season... And kakas first goal against egypt absolutely refutes your whole post...

Some of his performances weren't so good....but some were....keep in mind he never plays in his position...

By saying Kaka's career is going downhill I'm not saying he's bad...or that he can't produce moments of brilliance...but a single moment doesn't mean his career is still not on...

This is the link again....
LINK%C2%A330m-real-madrid-trio-251243

Sorry about the link let me try one last time from a different website
LINK

themadridguy
89. themadridguy Wrote: | 08.29BST | Jun 17, 2009

LMAO !! Sneijder is no where near Kaka's level, and will never be close to him if u ask me!

themadridguy
90. themadridguy Wrote: | 08.38BST | Jun 17, 2009

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Some of his performances weren't so good....but some were....keep in mind he never plays in his position...

By saying Kaka's career is going downhill I'm not saying he's bad...or that he can't produce moments of brilliance...but a single moment doesn't mean his career is still not on...

This is the link again....
LINK%C2%A330m-real-madrid-trio-251243

Sorry about the link let me try one last time from a different website
LINK

WTF is wrong with Madrid?? If we are selling Robben and Hunter, why not give them in players+ cash deal to Valencia to land Villa and Silva?? 8O That makes a lot more sense to me! What do we want? To make Tottenham part of the Big 5 in England??

lovemona
91. lovemona Wrote: | 08.47BST | Jun 17, 2009

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This is the link again....
LINK%C2%A330m-real-madrid-trio-251243

Sorry about the link let me try one last time from a different website
LINK

WTF is wrong with Madrid?? If we are selling Robben and Hunter, why not give them in players+ cash deal to Valencia to land Villa and Silva?? 8O That makes a lot more sense to me! What do we want? To make Tottenham part of the Big 5 in England??

perez is trying to make the club no1 club..but actualy he is destroying the club..he didt think wisely right now..we are doom!!!!

lovemona
92. lovemona Wrote: | 08.57BST | Jun 17, 2009

a fee of €42.6 million (£36m.....for our 3player???what wrong with perez????!!!!! that so cheap!!!! even robben can cost 25m or more..stupid!!! huhuhuh :(

themadridguy
93. themadridguy Wrote: | 09.00BST | Jun 17, 2009

Valdano said we are not after Ibra and Forlan, why the heck does the press spread baseless rumours such as "Real to offer Higuain + cash for Zlatan! " and "Forlan replacement for Villa !"
These rumours only add to the confusion and make the fans unsettled!

Madrid4life
94. Madrid4life Wrote: | 09.02BST | Jun 17, 2009

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if you guys aware of this...we buy player with high price from other club..but when we sell them the price is so cheap..what wrong with that???we must be hard to other club...if they want our player we gv them low price but when we buy from them...the price so insane!!!

When we buy someone ...de r in da best form.....we buy da best....when we sell who r out of form....one way rubbish....so price is too low

melbournemadridista
95. melbournemadridista Wrote: | 09.13BST | Jun 17, 2009

Guys i think untill we gettin ribery we shouldn't sell robben....we need one more midfielder.....we don't need those dutch ppl so much cuz de didn't do nough in last couple of yrs.....n da strategy madrid follows , specially senior prerez...he likes instant success...dats why we spend huge money....we don't have time to build up a player like huntlaar for 5 years....
If we don't sell RVN now we can't get a single penny nxt yr....so it will be a total loss project.
Some ppl asking ques on, will kaka go on downhill.....kaka is still top 5 soccer player in da world....last yr he was suffering bbit of injury so, he couldn't perform his best....I think he will be da next zidane in madrid.....

themadridguy
96. themadridguy Wrote: | 09.14BST | Jun 17, 2009

LINK
I am recommending this new search engine from Microsoft, becuz I'm tired of Google domination in the search space. Check out bing.com! It's images and video search is especially awesome!
Like when u search for videos, if u place ur cursor on the videos, they start playing, without actually clicking them! It's cool check it out!

And no, I'm not an employee of Microsoft. =D

melbournemadridista
97. melbournemadridista Wrote: | 09.14BST | Jun 17, 2009

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a fee of €42.6 million (£36m.....for our 3player???what wrong with perez????!!!!! that so cheap!!!! even robben can cost 25m or more..stupid!!! huhuhuh :(

If ny club want to buy someone , de check player fittnes history...in dat term robeen is in deep shit....dats why his price is low

DynastyofRealMadrid
98. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 09.30BST | Jun 17, 2009

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ac milan...last standing this 08/09 season..3rd place..even with kaka there still they only finish 3rd???did kaka gv them trofi this season??any trofi???so if here we finish 2nd so with kaka on the team are u ensure we finish top???with snijder he not given a starting 11..when ramon take over he...

Sneijder started all almost all the games under juande. He was benched cuz he is INJURIED and he has not yet fully recovered now. Please be more objective and don't look at things basically just by some meaningless statistics. Kaka missed lots of games last season because he was injuried too. He...

Look....Kaka seems to be on the down hill....his form is starting to get worse and worse....hope it was just one season...

As for Sneijder he is certainly up hill...and he showed he can play really well EVEN when played out of position (all the matches in a R.Madrid shirt).Also when...

of course, kaka is not as good as wut he used to be in his peak!!

i appreciate ur effort to tryna bring up such a understandable example to point out whether Kaka is a "need" good or a "luxury" good!! it's still early to say this since none of us can predict how he plays next season.

regarding to that "something that we can't be without", i think u tried to express the "wingers" and defenders. i totally agree in this point!! However, I do look up to whether the signing of kaka can STRENGTEHNED the squad or not!! Wesley Sneijder is my favorite among the dutch clan!! however, i don't see any "UP HILL" evidence of him in the past season due to his injury. and i haven't ARLEADY pointed this up to u so many time Daniel!! since u keep saying that he is being put in a wrong position!! i do ONLY admire him to play as a CM rather than ACM. the reason is simple--- he lacks of dribbling skills compared with kaka, totti(the peak one), Zidane, and Rui Costa. and i do prefer to see him being our Xavi!! that's what i expected to see from him.

JUST a very very little difference makes kaka different from VDV and Sneijder-----kaka can provide something EXTRA!!

however, if we fail to strengthen our defense!! i completely agree that the kaka signing is NO NEED since it spends our money to get better defenders!! other than that, kaka is still a great signing. It's just june, we still have almost two mths to work on it. let's see wut's gonna happen in the end!!

and i tell u what, a typical winger is no more a priority under Pellegrini!!

DynastyofRealMadrid
99. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 09.38BST | Jun 17, 2009

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ac milan...last standing this 08/09 season..3rd place..even with kaka there still they only finish 3rd???did kaka gv them trofi this season??any trofi???so if here we finish 2nd so with kaka on the team are u ensure we finish top???with snijder he not given a starting 11..when ramon take over he...

Sneijder started all almost all the games under juande. He was benched cuz he is INJURIED and he has not yet fully recovered now. Please be more objective and don't look at things basically just by some meaningless statistics. Kaka missed lots of games last season because he was injuried too. He...

Look....Kaka seems to be on the down hill....his form is starting to get worse and worse....hope it was just one season...

As for Sneijder he is certainly up hill...and he showed he can play really well EVEN when played out of position (all the matches in a R.Madrid shirt).Also when...

he is definitely not necessary to be "NEEDED"!! he is certainly gonna strengthen the squad, no doubt about it!! logically, a new LB is also not necessary to be "NEEDED", we still can rely on lousy heinze or weak marcelo!! it matters if a new comer can ACTUALLY ENHANCE the squad or not!!

u might say VDV and Sneijder are not as bad as Heinze!! of course, they ain't!! but what i've seen in the midfield is that "our attack is too predictable and lacking of depth"!! It doesn't mean Sneijder or VDV is bad but we definitely need someone who can CARRY the ball around to create open space. VDV and Sneijder are great passers but they can't beat up defenders when it's needed. and they are not likely to provide small wise passes like Silva and Xavi.

DynastyofRealMadrid
100. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 09.48BST | Jun 17, 2009

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a men that was few year ago...he not the same anymore...with all the injuried he have..he not the same kaka when win the "CL"..do u see brazil vs egyp??ya he score a goal...but most of the game i didt see anything special from him..its just normal..and ya football is 11player..so with or without him...

saying kaka's arrival wouldn't make a difference is absurb!! let's forgot about the past then!! but what evidence u were bring out?? last year??? it's already past dude, don't make me laugh!! how would u have the "super natural" power to predict that kaka MUST NOT play well in real madrid?? i want...

for me he is done...nothig special about him anymore..JUST NORMAL...evidence???i ask u...do u see he play like he use to play year ago??do see he do drible a ball and pass maybe 2 or 3 defender????like the old time???like he do when ac milan vs man u...accept the faith dude..he not the same...

so how are u gonna know that he cannot do it anymore!! don't freak me out saying that u've ALREADY watched any game with kaka on the RM jersey. Brazilian Ronaldo was almost done in Inter but who could expect his comeback later on in the 02/03 season. Regarding to the off-pitch atitude, kaka still has the chance to boost himself up. i dare say that even the off-formed kaka can provide something that none of our midfielders can. Robben can dribble but he lacks of passing skill.

and the silliest thing is to judge a player by one single game. kaka was awesome in the last two world cup qualifying!!!

melbournemadridista
101. melbournemadridista Wrote: | 09.48BST | Jun 17, 2009

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i hope Perez know wht he trying to do...with all the money,loan and offload of player...i dont know if the plan will work..if with all the money we spend and the result still the same??how??i see kaka play..and i dare to say snijder is same level as him..you may not agree with me but u do the...

Sneijder is at the same level as Kaka??? what 's wrong with u?? u can say Drenthe is as good as CR7!! do what observe??? that is insane to say so. Sneijder has not yet had any convincible performance to prove that he can be as good as kaka. take a look at the 06/07 season. take a look at how Kaka...

ac milan...last standing this 08/09 season..3rd place..even with kaka there still they only finish 3rd???did kaka gv them trofi this season??any trofi???so if here we finish 2nd so with kaka on the team are u ensure we finish top???with snijder he not given a starting 11..when ramon take over he...

Guys kaka was sufferin injury last yr...at da end he recovered....now he is gettin in full form...he is only 27...n he is still one of the fastest player in soccer....he has sprit to do better b he is very humble guy....I think he is going to be the centre of our team(like ac milan) within couple of yrs.....Sneijder is not a bad player but he was never in dat class of kaka,C RONALDO , messi , ribery......dis 4 players r still best....n u will find dem in dr class for at least 3/4 yrs....
So its better we don't compare ny of real squad member(2008/2009) with dis magnetic 4.

DynastyofRealMadrid
102. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 09.51BST | Jun 17, 2009

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a men that was few year ago...he not the same anymore...with all the injuried he have..he not the same kaka when win the "CL"..do u see brazil vs egyp??ya he score a goal...but most of the game i didt see anything special from him..its just normal..and ya football is 11player..so with or without him...

saying kaka's arrival wouldn't make a difference is absurb!! let's forgot about the past then!! but what evidence u were bring out?? last year??? it's already past dude, don't make me laugh!! how would u have the "super natural" power to predict that kaka MUST NOT play well in real madrid?? i want...

for me he is done...nothig special about him anymore..JUST NORMAL...evidence???i ask u...do u see he play like he use to play year ago??do see he do drible a ball and pass maybe 2 or 3 defender????like the old time???like he do when ac milan vs man u...accept the faith dude..he not the same...

and i am asking u to point out something SPECIFIC indicating that Sneijder is as good as kaka!! this is the evidence i am asking from u since u said they are at the same level.

remember, i am talking about the 08/09 season, which u keep critisizing kaka!! they both had a SHIT season due to injury. there is no point to judge two players with different playing style.

themadridguy
103. themadridguy Wrote: | 10.12BST | Jun 17, 2009

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saying kaka's arrival wouldn't make a difference is absurb!! let's forgot about the past then!! but what evidence u were bring out?? last year??? it's already past dude, don't make me laugh!! how would u have the "super natural" power to predict that kaka MUST NOT play well in real madrid?? i want...

for me he is done...nothig special about him anymore..JUST NORMAL...evidence???i ask u...do u see he play like he use to play year ago??do see he do drible a ball and pass maybe 2 or 3 defender????like the old time???like he do when ac milan vs man u...accept the faith dude..he not the same...

and i am asking u to point out something SPECIFIC indicating that Sneijder is as good as kaka!! this is the evidence i am asking from u since u said they are at the same level.

remember, i am talking about the 08/09 season, which u keep critisizing kaka!! they both had a SHIT...

I think Kaka and CR7 will look awesome in the white of Madrid! I can't wait for the new season in Spain! :P
Why does La Liga start later than EPL? It is annoying! :?

Danniel
104. Danniel Wrote: | 10.19BST | Jun 17, 2009

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Sneijder started all almost all the games under juande. He was benched cuz he is INJURIED and he has not yet fully recovered now. Please be more objective and don't look at things basically just by some meaningless statistics. Kaka missed lots of games last season because he was injuried too. He...

Look....Kaka seems to be on the down hill....his form is starting to get worse and worse....hope it was just one season...

As for Sneijder he is certainly up hill...and he showed he can play really well EVEN when played out of position (all the matches in a R.Madrid shirt).Also when...

he is definitely not necessary to be "NEEDED"!! he is certainly gonna strengthen the squad, no doubt about it!! logically, a new LB is also not necessary to be "NEEDED", we still can rely on lousy heinze or weak marcelo!! it matters if a new comer can ACTUALLY ENHANCE the squad or not!!
...

He will obviously improve the squad...as for the Xavi Comparison I honestly don't beleive he's good in that role but if you do I respect your opinion as always ;) I think Sneijder needs a Xavi type of player behind him...but not necessarily be one himself...infact I think Sneijder's best days in a Real Madrid shirt were when he played alongside Guti who once every cuople of games is a Xavi type of player ;)

Now it's useless saying Kaka's transfer was too high or not good....because they already happenned...we have to look foreward and try to find some way of putting them all together and getting a new left back...(and before telling me that I brought up the Kaka subject again...I did that in order to show you what I meant to say earlier ;) )

DynastyofRealMadrid
105. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 10.20BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to themadridguy:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to lovemona:

for me he is done...nothig special about him anymore..JUST NORMAL...evidence???i ask u...do u see he play like he use to play year ago??do see he do drible a ball and pass maybe 2 or 3 defender????like the old time???like he do when ac milan vs man u...accept the faith dude..he not the same...

and i am asking u to point out something SPECIFIC indicating that Sneijder is as good as kaka!! this is the evidence i am asking from u since u said they are at the same level.

remember, i am talking about the 08/09 season, which u keep critisizing kaka!! they both had a SHIT...

I think Kaka and CR7 will look awesome in the white of Madrid! I can't wait for the new season in Spain! :P
Why does La Liga start later than EPL? It is annoying! :?

it's okay as long as we finally can have a squad that is strong enough to challenge the big 4 of EPL.

DynastyofRealMadrid
106. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 10.26BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to lovemona:

say wht u want to say about kaka..he great what so ever...i still think its will not make any diffrent...what make a team win a cup or trofi is not a superstar player...it all about play as a team,brave,play for the game not about money they get,never give up even if we about to loss..keep pushing...

i am suprised that we are still not waken up yet!! Don't you really think with the same broken squad, we can go any farther in CL??? the consecutive first around knockouts in CL already tell us what level we are staying at. Even the team was in fomr in 07/08 season, we still played like a second tier team in CL. even Roma could beat us twice. what a shame. and what happened to the next season?? we didn't sign shit except VDV who is overlapping with Sneijder who was injuried. Plus, we got rid of Robinho and Baptista. and this made our squad is more shitty.

melbournemadridista
107. melbournemadridista Wrote: | 10.33BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Reply to lovemona:

say wht u want to say about kaka..he great what so ever...i still think its will not make any diffrent...what make a team win a cup or trofi is not a superstar player...it all about play as a team,brave,play for the game not about money they get,never give up even if we about to loss..keep pushing...

i am suprised that we are still not waken up yet!! Don't you really think with the same broken squad, we can go any farther in CL??? the consecutive first around knockouts in CL already tell us what level we are staying at. Even the team was in fomr in 07/08 season, we still played like a second...

But i think we need a striker....we don't have a gud one....raul n higuain can share 90 mins...we need 1 more ....n if we have ribery as well...couple of defenders ......da world will see ...we will be unbeatable.......

DynastyofRealMadrid
108. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 10.34BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to Danniel:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to Danniel:

Look....Kaka seems to be on the down hill....his form is starting to get worse and worse....hope it was just one season...

As for Sneijder he is certainly up hill...and he showed he can play really well EVEN when played out of position (all the matches in a R.Madrid shirt).Also when...

he is definitely not necessary to be "NEEDED"!! he is certainly gonna strengthen the squad, no doubt about it!! logically, a new LB is also not necessary to be "NEEDED", we still can rely on lousy heinze or weak marcelo!! it matters if a new comer can ACTUALLY ENHANCE the squad or not!!
...

He will obviously improve the squad...as for the Xavi Comparison I honestly don't beleive he's good in that role but if you do I respect your opinion as always ;) I think Sneijder needs a Xavi type of player behind him...but not necessarily be one himself...infact I think Sneijder's best days in a...

i agree, and that's just my personally opinion for transforming Sneijder as a CM. Cuz i don't see anything that he can do but Xavi, who is just a CM, CAN'T do. what i am trying to say is that i personally won't suggest to sacrifice one striker for sneijder. But i will for kaka cuz kaka can give us a "vague" striker.

it seems that M.Diarra might leave. How do u think mate?? i think it's out of reason to sell such a reliable defensive midfielder.

nicky
109. nicky Wrote: | 10.48BST | Jun 17, 2009

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Sneijder's agent said that Sneijder wants to stay =D ....I think he might be really useful if we don't get Alonso...

It was reported that Robben will be sold for 7m and RVN for 1.25m which I think is unbeleivably low...I wouldn't sell Robben for atleast 30/40m or otherwise Robben +...

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nicky
110. nicky Wrote: | 10.49BST | Jun 17, 2009
Danniel
111. Danniel Wrote: | 11.51BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Reply to Danniel:
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

he is definitely not necessary to be "NEEDED"!! he is certainly gonna strengthen the squad, no doubt about it!! logically, a new LB is also not necessary to be "NEEDED", we still can rely on lousy heinze or weak marcelo!! it matters if a new comer can ACTUALLY ENHANCE the squad or not!!
...

He will obviously improve the squad...as for the Xavi Comparison I honestly don't beleive he's good in that role but if you do I respect your opinion as always ;) I think Sneijder needs a Xavi type of player behind him...but not necessarily be one himself...infact I think Sneijder's best days in a...

i agree, and that's just my personally opinion for transforming Sneijder as a CM. Cuz i don't see anything that he can do but Xavi, who is just a CM, CAN'T do. what i am trying to say is that i personally won't suggest to sacrifice one striker for sneijder. But i will for kaka cuz kaka can give us a...

I don't think selling Diarra is a good idea at all...cause I don't rule out the possibility of playing them both together =D

Also if we need a right back...Lass might move as a right back...and M.Diarra plays in the middle.Lastly if Lass gets injured M.Diarra will definately be needed...we'd only have Gago as a defensive midfielder. ;) what do you think?

Danniel
112. Danniel Wrote: | 12.13BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to Danniel:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to Danniel:

He will obviously improve the squad...as for the Xavi Comparison I honestly don't beleive he's good in that role but if you do I respect your opinion as always ;) I think Sneijder needs a Xavi type of player behind him...but not necessarily be one himself...infact I think Sneijder's best days in a...

i agree, and that's just my personally opinion for transforming Sneijder as a CM. Cuz i don't see anything that he can do but Xavi, who is just a CM, CAN'T do. what i am trying to say is that i personally won't suggest to sacrifice one striker for sneijder. But i will for kaka cuz kaka can give us a...

I don't think selling Diarra is a good idea at all...cause I don't rule out the possibility of playing them both together =D

Also if we need a right back...Lass might move as a right back...and M.Diarra plays in the middle.Lastly if Lass gets injured M.Diarra will definately be...

(I find playing both Diarras together in the same team more intresting than playing Kaka and Ronaldo in the same team...I think Messi will spend the best part of the year staying awake in bed thinking about the prospect of having to face them in the match =D )

melbournemadridista
113. melbournemadridista Wrote: | 12.17BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to Danniel:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to Danniel:

He will obviously improve the squad...as for the Xavi Comparison I honestly don't beleive he's good in that role but if you do I respect your opinion as always ;) I think Sneijder needs a Xavi type of player behind him...but not necessarily be one himself...infact I think Sneijder's best days in a...

i agree, and that's just my personally opinion for transforming Sneijder as a CM. Cuz i don't see anything that he can do but Xavi, who is just a CM, CAN'T do. what i am trying to say is that i personally won't suggest to sacrifice one striker for sneijder. But i will for kaka cuz kaka can give us a...

I don't think selling Diarra is a good idea at all...cause I don't rule out the possibility of playing them both together =D

Also if we need a right back...Lass might move as a right back...and M.Diarra plays in the middle.Lastly if Lass gets injured M.Diarra will definately be...

I think we can try sneijder.....cuz i have seen his few matches whr he played as a defensive midfielder.

Guys can we try on ballack ?? He is one of the best defensive midfielder right now.....

n 1 more ques ...do you guys think we really need 1 more defensive midfielder after we get ribery ? cuz i don't think we need :|

flynn
114. flynn Wrote: | 12.23BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to Danniel:

Reply to Danniel:
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

i agree, and that's just my personally opinion for transforming Sneijder as a CM. Cuz i don't see anything that he can do but Xavi, who is just a CM, CAN'T do. what i am trying to say is that i personally won't suggest to sacrifice one striker for sneijder. But i will for kaka cuz kaka can give us a...

I don't think selling Diarra is a good idea at all...cause I don't rule out the possibility of playing them both together =D

Also if we need a right back...Lass might move as a right back...and M.Diarra plays in the middle.Lastly if Lass gets injured M.Diarra will definately be...

(I find playing both Diarras together in the same team more intresting than playing Kaka and Ronaldo in the same team...I think Messi will spend the best part of the year staying awake in bed thinking about the prospect of having to face them in the match =D )

i think we need a player of Ruben De La Red's characteristics more than Diarra's.*any of them for that matter.

ehab369
115. ehab369 Wrote: | 12.24BST | Jun 17, 2009

dont let robben or hutlaar go!!!!!
robben and huntlaar are quality players!

Danniel
116. Danniel Wrote: | 12.31BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to flynn:

Reply to Danniel:
Reply to Danniel:

I don't think selling Diarra is a good idea at all...cause I don't rule out the possibility of playing them both together =D

Also if we need a right back...Lass might move as a right back...and M.Diarra plays in the middle.Lastly if Lass gets injured M.Diarra will definately be...

(I find playing both Diarras together in the same team more intresting than playing Kaka and Ronaldo in the same team...I think Messi will spend the best part of the year staying awake in bed thinking about the prospect of having to face them in the match =D )

i think we need a player of Ruben De La Red's characteristics more than Diarra's.*any of them for that matter.

Gago has his characteristics if needed ;) Gago is more of a creative midfielder than a Diarra kind of player (as he was always being played). Also there is Parejo & Sneijder so I don't think a new player in that position is really needed.

Danniel
117. Danniel Wrote: | 12.37BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to melbournemadridista:

Reply to Danniel:
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

i agree, and that's just my personally opinion for transforming Sneijder as a CM. Cuz i don't see anything that he can do but Xavi, who is just a CM, CAN'T do. what i am trying to say is that i personally won't suggest to sacrifice one striker for sneijder. But i will for kaka cuz kaka can give us a...

I don't think selling Diarra is a good idea at all...cause I don't rule out the possibility of playing them both together =D

Also if we need a right back...Lass might move as a right back...and M.Diarra plays in the middle.Lastly if Lass gets injured M.Diarra will definately be...

I think we can try sneijder.....cuz i have seen his few matches whr he played as a defensive midfielder.

Guys can we try on ballack ?? He is one of the best defensive midfielder right now.....

n 1 more ques ...do you guys think we really need 1 more defensive midfielder...

I agree mate...depends on the game aye...whether it's more important to attack or defend ;) I wouldn't buy a defensive midfielder however it wouldn't be so bad if we get one...

As for ballack I think his wages are way too high for a player who gets frequently injured ;)

flynn
118. flynn Wrote: | 13.49BST | Jun 17, 2009

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Reply to flynn:
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(I find playing both Diarras together in the same team more intresting than playing Kaka and Ronaldo in the same team...I think Messi will spend the best part of the year staying awake in bed thinking about the prospect of having to face them in the match =D )

i think we need a player of Ruben De La Red's characteristics more than Diarra's.*any of them for that matter.

Gago has his characteristics if needed ;) Gago is more of a creative midfielder than a Diarra kind of player (as he was always being played). Also there is Parejo & Sneijder so I don't think a new player in that position is really needed.

i agree that we have enough in that position especially if De La Red do comes back.However it is a great concern with these players situations.
Sneijder and Gago's future still hangs in a balance.Parejo is much too young and inexperienced too carry the role while De La Red still have his heart problems to think about.
I just hope this situation is sorted out.

themadridguy
119. themadridguy Wrote: | 14.10BST | Jun 17, 2009

Plz why people still want to stick with Gaygo? =D
He is a total shit player. Doesn't deserve to play for Real Madrid, as we have seen so many times last year!

Raziel
120. Raziel Wrote: | 14.13BST | Jun 17, 2009

The way Real Madrid treats its players I doubt many of them want to stay under Perez. Also I don't think this will be a team, just a set of ego's that won't play together all that well. Money is destroying the sports. It's really funny how easy the fans and the club turn their backs on players/managers in Madrid. Real Madrid has become the disgrace of Europe.

themadridguy
121. themadridguy Wrote: | 14.23BST | Jun 17, 2009

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The way Real Madrid treats its players I doubt many of them want to stay under Perez. Also I don't think this will be a team, just a set of ego's that won't play together all that well. Money is destroying the sports. It's really funny how easy the fans and the club turn their backs on...

Yeah like U forget one Barcelona who turned their back on Ronaldinho and Rijkaard, you are one hypocrite man and U are the disgrace not Real Madrid, so just stop f***** around here!

themadridguy
122. themadridguy Wrote: | 14.32BST | Jun 17, 2009

LINK
What is this?? Robinho to Barca?? That traitor is becoming a pain in the a**!!

Danniel
123. Danniel Wrote: | 14.34BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to Raziel:

The way Real Madrid treats its players I doubt many of them want to stay under Perez. Also I don't think this will be a team, just a set of ego's that won't play together all that well. Money is destroying the sports. It's really funny how easy the fans and the club turn their backs on...

I have to say that I agree...except for the stupid thing that R.Madrid has become the disgrace of Europe....

Riken
124. Riken Wrote: | 14.38BST | Jun 17, 2009

What happened with the defense. Are we going to get some fresh players?
I think Juan or Mexes would fit good in Real Madrid.

lovemona
125. lovemona Wrote: | 14.39BST | Jun 17, 2009

i dont blam robinho if he want to go to barca...coz we the one tht treat him bad...from the 1st place..if can..i relly want robinho back to real madrid..but i gust that will never happen

Raziel
126. Raziel Wrote: | 14.44BST | Jun 17, 2009

I don't give a shit about Barcalona, but sorry if I offended you. Just don't like direction the sports is heading.
You think it is ok the way Perez is destroying the sports? He had to pay a €57,389,000 fee to become president? And now he opens up his wallet to buy the whole world? How will other European teams be able to compete with English and Spanish teams if this is the standard? I say bring in the 6+5 rule. Honestly i was disgusted by Manchester City the past year but check this comparison (it's not up to date but you get the point)!

Comparison

Real Madrid dream team...

Iker Casillas - in post
Sergio Ramos - in post
Pepe - in post
Marcelo - in post
Raul Albiol - £12 million
David Silva - £25 million
Kaka - £59 million
Frank Ribery - £60 million
C. Ronaldo - £80 million
David Villa - £40 million
Xabi Alonso - £20 million

Total = £296 million

Man City dream team...

Shay Given - in post
Nedlam Onuoha - in post
Kolo Toure - £12 million
Joleon Lescott - £15 million
Wayne Bridge - in post
Stephen Ireland - in post
Gareth Barry - £12 million
Robinho - in post
Carlos Tevez - £30 million
Samuel Eto`o - £30 million

Total = £99 million

I need to say more?

themadridguy
127. themadridguy Wrote: | 15.06BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to Raziel:

I don't give a shit about Barcalona, but sorry if I offended you. Just don't like direction the sports is heading.
You think it is ok the way Perez is destroying the sports? He had to pay a €57,389,000 fee to become president? And now he opens up his wallet to buy the whole world? How will ot...

How did U even think of comparing Man City with Real Madrid?? That's absurd!!
Real Madrid are the biggest club in the world and we are not owned by some Sheikh or Oligark like Man City and Chelsea, and btw it is not Perez's money, it's the club's money! And U should show some respect to the 9 time European champions!
We spend so big becuz we sign the best players in the world!

Raziel
128. Raziel Wrote: | 16.10BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to themadridguy:

Reply to Raziel:

I don't give a shit about Barcalona, but sorry if I offended you. Just don't like direction the sports is heading.
You think it is ok the way Perez is destroying the sports? He had to pay a €57,389,000 fee to become president? And now he opens up his wallet to buy the whole world? How will ot...

How did U even think of comparing Man City with Real Madrid?? That's absurd!!
Real Madrid are the biggest club in the world and we are not owned by some Sheikh or Oligark like Man City and Chelsea, and btw it is not Perez's money, it's the club's money! And U should show some respect to the 9...

I compared the 2 cause last year Manchester City was called the disgrace of Europe! The money they spend on players was absurd. Of course you can’t compare the 2 teams when it comes to achievements! But because you are so bias you lack self criticism. I respect Real Madrid for past achievements not for their current transactions and not because you say I have to. You need to deal with the fact not everybody shares your opinion on every little matter.
I’m just thinking about the players/managers which careers were set back a few steps cause of bad management. The way they are treating their players they won’t win any admirers in Europe or the rest in the world. One year you are the savior the next year you can go. This is no way to win fans. I like to watch attractive football, I also think it’s important the players/coaches are treated with respect/dignity by the fans and the club. Don't care what team: Real, Chelsea, Manchester United. You can't buy respect!

themadridguy
129. themadridguy Wrote: | 16.38BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to Raziel:

Reply to themadridguy:
Reply to Raziel:

I don't give a shit about Barcalona, but sorry if I offended you. Just don't like direction the sports is heading.
You think it is ok the way Perez is destroying the sports? He had to pay a €57,389,000 fee to become president? And now he opens up his wallet to buy the whole world? How will ot...

How did U even think of comparing Man City with Real Madrid?? That's absurd!!
Real Madrid are the biggest club in the world and we are not owned by some Sheikh or Oligark like Man City and Chelsea, and btw it is not Perez's money, it's the club's money! And U should show some respect to the 9...

I compared the 2 cause last year Manchester City was called the disgrace of Europe! The money they spend on players was absurd. Of course you can’t compare the 2 teams when it comes to achievements! But because you are so bias you lack self criticism. I respect Real Madrid for past achievements not ...

IMAO REAL MADRID- THE GREATEST CLUB IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL AND AC MILAN,LIVERPOOL,BAYERN MUNICH,CHELSEA,MAN UTD AND EVERY OTHER CLUB ON PLANET EARTH AND BEYOND, 8O CAN KISS OUR A*&% ! =D

themadridguy
130. themadridguy Wrote: | 16.40BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to themadridguy:

Reply to Raziel:
Reply to themadridguy:

How did U even think of comparing Man City with Real Madrid?? That's absurd!!
Real Madrid are the biggest club in the world and we are not owned by some Sheikh or Oligark like Man City and Chelsea, and btw it is not Perez's money, it's the club's money! And U should show some respect to the 9...

I compared the 2 cause last year Manchester City was called the disgrace of Europe! The money they spend on players was absurd. Of course you can’t compare the 2 teams when it comes to achievements! But because you are so bias you lack self criticism. I respect Real Madrid for past achievements not ...

IMAO REAL MADRID- THE GREATEST CLUB IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL AND AC MILAN,LIVERPOOL,BAYERN MUNICH,CHELSEA,MAN UTD AND EVERY OTHER CLUB ON PLANET EARTH AND BEYOND, 8O CAN KISS OUR A*&% ! =D

I WON'T SAY ANYTHING MORE ON THIS ISSUE.

the sporty type
131. the sporty type Wrote: | 16.42BST | Jun 17, 2009

Serieus how disrespectful is real to there players. they wanna sell robben who was by far there best player this year and is way better as ribery. and sure he is selfish but like ronaldo always passes and never goes for own succes. and come one hiquain is just as selfish maby even more but you here nobody about that because he is a fan favorit. you know i hope robben goes te barca and that he's gonna winn a lot of prices with them henry is getting old so he can play on his posistion. and sneijder had a really good season last year to the same with rvn when they were fit. I used to like real but with there madness in selling and buying i start to dislike them more and more

themadridguy
132. themadridguy Wrote: | 16.55BST | Jun 17, 2009

LOL! THIS HAS BECOME A REAL-MADRID BASHING BLOG! :?

DynastyofRealMadrid
133. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 17.05BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to Danniel:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to Danniel:

He will obviously improve the squad...as for the Xavi Comparison I honestly don't beleive he's good in that role but if you do I respect your opinion as always ;) I think Sneijder needs a Xavi type of player behind him...but not necessarily be one himself...infact I think Sneijder's best days in a...

i agree, and that's just my personally opinion for transforming Sneijder as a CM. Cuz i don't see anything that he can do but Xavi, who is just a CM, CAN'T do. what i am trying to say is that i personally won't suggest to sacrifice one striker for sneijder. But i will for kaka cuz kaka can give us a...

I don't think selling Diarra is a good idea at all...cause I don't rule out the possibility of playing them both together =D

Also if we need a right back...Lass might move as a right back...and M.Diarra plays in the middle.Lastly if Lass gets injured M.Diarra will definately be...

i think playing two Diarra in certain circumstances will be awesome, esp playing against a team like barca that tends to play possession football. however, i do think that it's beacause that the arrival of kaka and CR7 increases the probability and necessities for the 2 diarra's to play together cuz the former 2 need extra protection. and i still don't think it will be smart to keep gago next season. i still suggest to loan them out. and i still think a role like Xabi is still needed cuz we can't put 2 diarra's together all the time esp when we tend to attack against some weak team.

Madridista09
134. Madridista09 Wrote: | 17.59BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to themadridguy:

LOL! THIS HAS BECOME A REAL-MADRID BASHING BLOG! :?

I agree, the Far$a and EPL glory hunters have invaded.

If Perez wants to sell, sell high! Dont just sell because you desperately want them out. IDK y but we sell players less then what we buy them for sometimes....

phantompong
135. phantompong Wrote: | 20.05BST | Jun 17, 2009

This nonsense about how Real Madrid is going to own or fall apart next season is exactly that - nonsense. The truth is nobody knows what's going to happen, and even Perez's first go as President is not a good judge. Everybody forgets that he DID bring Zidane and Figo over, that Ronaldo DID score regularly, and that Beckham ultimately came good. The Galacticos were not the problem, it was the unbalanced team.

Look, how exciting is it for the newspapers to report that - oh, Villa this Villa that, Ribery here Ribery there, Maicon is unhappy at Inter. I think I've only seen one or two places (one of them being the official RM website) where Valdano talks about Pellegrini having the final decision on Garay, or being in talks with Getafe to bring Granero back. You don't know how many players the club is negotiating for, and if the player concerned isn't a "name" or already playing for a big club, then chances are the newspapers won't bother talking about it (e.g. Wigan says we've been calling them once a week for the last six weeks re Antonio Valencia, and I only read that today, and I also only just read that Marcano - the Racing LB - may be coming. Rumours, but so are the Villa, Maicon, Ribery...). So what looks like to us an unbalanced team may just be unbalanced reporting.

I keep saying this even though I know no one's gonna listen - this is difficult, but let's not judge. Let's just wait until we can see for ourselves whether Perez has indeed learnt from his mistakes - and we can only do that when the season starts. As things go, we aren't that badly off. (We could be Betis.)

Re "wasting" money: no money will actually have been wasted by the end of Perez's reign. That's the whole point of the Galacticos. And remember this: I read somewhere if Liverpool doesn't make it into the Champions League for one season, they will be unable to pay off their debts. Would you rather be in their position?

DynastyofRealMadrid
136. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 20.43BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to phantompong:

This nonsense about how Real Madrid is going to own or fall apart next season is exactly that - nonsense. The truth is nobody knows what's going to happen, and even Perez's first go as President is not a good judge. Everybody forgets that he DID bring Zidane and Figo over, that Ronaldo DID score...

exactly!! Calderon and Mijatovic had ruined the team for 3 seasons and it was them how got us staying in the second tier level. But no one seemed to confess and to concern , instead, everyone is yelling on Perez with his signings and those rumours brought about by the media. THis is so stupid. It's still early to judge things. Perez has only taken over for less than 3 weeks. But peopel seem to blame something that is uncertain on him, but no one mentioned Calderon who had ruined our team for 3 years. i don't really know if there is some good thing Calderon had done. maybe i should've brought this up. But whenever i think of how we got humiliated by barca in last classico....the first time we conceded 6 goals at home since 1950's. Plus the CL defeat by liverpool. I wonder if those who still think the 08-09 season could win the CL know anything about football.

melbournemadridista
137. melbournemadridista Wrote: | 20.46BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to Raziel:

Reply to themadridguy:
Reply to Raziel:

I don't give a shit about Barcalona, but sorry if I offended you. Just don't like direction the sports is heading.
You think it is ok the way Perez is destroying the sports? He had to pay a €57,389,000 fee to become president? And now he opens up his wallet to buy the whole world? How will ot...

How did U even think of comparing Man City with Real Madrid?? That's absurd!!
Real Madrid are the biggest club in the world and we are not owned by some Sheikh or Oligark like Man City and Chelsea, and btw it is not Perez's money, it's the club's money! And U should show some respect to the 9...

I compared the 2 cause last year Manchester City was called the disgrace of Europe! The money they spend on players was absurd. Of course you can’t compare the 2 teams when it comes to achievements! But because you are so bias you lack self criticism. I respect Real Madrid for past achievements not ...

Raziel.....i think i will answer you question like dis...

Perez paid dat money to get approval for election.perez doesn't spend his own money to buy players, he spends clubs money..n he can't even be profitable from club money(that is club rule) . so he spend dat money to be club president which he thought a unpaid but very respectful job.

Madrid is owned by it socio s . So dr is no rich oil tycoon is dr to help madrid. So it has to earn its own money. That madrid does by tv broadcasting and image right deal with various sponsors.So madrid need to buy reliable stars to get this offer specially when de r waitin for an big overseas tv deal offer. Players like beckham,ronaldo,kaka helps madrid to get more money from their sponsors like addidas,bwin,coca cola.So if madrid has flashy footballer like ronaldo or popular brazilian like kaka they will be benifited with huge amount of money.cuz may be u noticed he was ready to pay nough for beckham but not for ronaldinho(on dat time ronaldinho didn't v dat much commercial value). Same happenin with c ronaldo but he is not payin dat much for ibra/villa/maicon/ribery . So if madrid has gud players who can perform n may be popular as well(commercial value)..madrid will be rich...so dat it can maintain itself.dats how madrid is maintain its status....dats how madrid is world one of the most important brand name in sport,highest time uefa champion n la liga as well.
And you talking about fan, don't even worry abt it....cuz we v huge fan circle all over da world, dats why we v biggest tv deal n sponsors deal with us.
Its not players don't admire madrid...de do...dats why kaka came in madrid instead of man city, ronaldo came in from man u, ribery ,villa wants to come ...it not for money.cuz madrid pays less salary den chelsea,barcelona(chk on da net,u will get it). So why de come for, Its respect,honour u get,when u play for Real Madrid.

Marc
138. Marc Wrote: | 22.48BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Reply to phantompong:

This nonsense about how Real Madrid is going to own or fall apart next season is exactly that - nonsense. The truth is nobody knows what's going to happen, and even Perez's first go as President is not a good judge. Everybody forgets that he DID bring Zidane and Figo over, that Ronaldo DID score...

exactly!! Calderon and Mijatovic had ruined the team for 3 seasons and it was them how got us staying in the second tier level. But no one seemed to confess and to concern , instead, everyone is yelling on Perez with his signings and those rumours brought about by the media. THis is so stupid. It's...

I think people realize that Real Madrid need to rebuild and that they need to spend in order to rebuild. But that's not the reason others complain. If you stop looking at this issue through your white shades, then you will realize why they complain. Laporta's complaints may be too excessive and extreme but he has a point. The truth is, Real Madrid did disrupt the balance of the market and they have caused an inflation. 68 million for Kaka followed by a world record bid for Ronaldo in times like these is extreme. Not only is it bad for football, but it's also bad for Spain's economy. When faltering banks give out multimillion euro loans to a football club rather than the people, then there's something wrong.

Yes, Real Madrid do need to rebuild, but rebuilding isn't splashing millions of Euros towards only TWO players. Rebuilding is addressing your needs as a football club, in this case, it's the defense.

DynastyofRealMadrid
139. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 23.22BST | Jun 17, 2009

Reply to Marc:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to phantompong:

This nonsense about how Real Madrid is going to own or fall apart next season is exactly that - nonsense. The truth is nobody knows what's going to happen, and even Perez's first go as President is not a good judge. Everybody forgets that he DID bring Zidane and Figo over, that Ronaldo DID score...

exactly!! Calderon and Mijatovic had ruined the team for 3 seasons and it was them how got us staying in the second tier level. But no one seemed to confess and to concern , instead, everyone is yelling on Perez with his signings and those rumours brought about by the media. THis is so stupid. It's...

I think people realize that Real Madrid need to rebuild and that they need to spend in order to rebuild. But that's not the reason others complain. If you stop looking at this issue through your white shades, then you will realize why they complain. Laporta's complaints may be too excessive and...

as the transfer market is still far from closed, it's still too early to judge whether we are successful or fail in the summer transfer market.

as a real madrid fan, i only concern things from the club's stand point. Other than that, not my business. and i don't care how those outsiders(those are not RM fans) look at real madrid cuz they critisize everything regardless whether right or wrong. And there are also many haters around. and i don't care how much they've spent as long as they don't go bankrupcy and have to sell players. I only care if we can build up a great team. It's been only 3 weeks(not even 3 weeks). Is it too early to judge things now??

Tesfaalem
140. Tesfaalem Wrote: | 23.39BST | Jun 17, 2009



-------- Robben ----- Higauin ----- Ronaldo
---------------- Kaka ---------------------
------------------------------ Sneijder -----
-------------------- M.Diarra -------------
Capdevila ------------------------------- Ramos
---------------- Albiol -------- Pepe --------
-------------------- Iker Casillas -----------

chizy 5
141. chizy 5 Wrote: | 03.17BST | Jun 18, 2009

this website used to be good but with time iam realising some of the people have no fotballing knowledge at all they ruin this good blog..and dont forget its mainly a madrid web so pliz those anti madrid comments at times are stupid although some are sensible.
I think lets give Mr Perez and co some time and then we can see the results.we need good players to compete dont forget the gap between madrid and barca had grown so much evident by the thrashing of 6-2 by barca in madrid so pliz we need to reduce that gap by bringing in quality players thats what madrid is doing now.
If it means spending money then let it be. After all the CR7 deal was done by Caldron so Perez had just to summon what had already been agreed, do you think paying CR7 30 million was easy money blame goes to Calderon not Perez.
Money at madrid comes from merchandise,big fan base, tv rigths,sponsorship deals from big co like coca cola adidas etc so lets wait and see.

Ben Dover
142. Ben Dover Wrote: | 10.24BST | Jun 28, 2009

You are an idiot, my friend! As is Real, I mean,
the bosses! Roben is 2 classes over Ronaldo and Kaka, and although Im a MAN U fan, I like Real too and I saw last season that Roben did all the work on the pitch! Everywhere! You either are blind or have nothing to do with Football! You will see what flops Kaka and Ronaldo will be! they will show up 10 mina match, not like Roben, dying on the field for Real 90 min!! you and te decission makers of Real have nothing to do with football and common sense!!I hope that idiot Ferguson wakes up and replaces Ronaldo, witha better, harder-working, less cokky player, Roben!! Learn Football, my freind, leave your personal feelings out!!

BEN DOVER
143. BEN DOVER Wrote: | 10.39BST | Jun 28, 2009

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT IT WAS A BIG MISTAKE, YOU NEEDED A NEW COACH, NOT KAKA AND RONALDO, TWO OVERATED, OVERPRICED FUTURE LUXURY REZERVES AT REAL!! KAKA SHOWED ALL HIS POTENTIAL,NO MORE SURPRIZES FOR ADVERSARIES, AND RONALDO IS ALMOST THERE, HE IS MAN U STYLE, NOT REAL! THE LIKES OF PUYOL WILL EAT HIM ALIVE! AND THE REFS IN SPAIN WILL LET THEM PUNISH HIM EVEN WORSE THAT THE BRITS! REAL ALREADY HAD A GREAT TEAM, ROBEN IS WAY OVER KAKA AND RONALDO, NOT ONLY SKILL, BUT EFFORT! AND SCHNEIDER AN HUNTELAAR ARE VERY CLOSE!! BIG MISTAKE, MR PEREZ! TOO MUCH MONEY AND EGO, VERY LITTLE COMMON SENSE!! I THINK THAT BARCELONA WILL HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY FOR AT LEAST 2 MORE YEARS!!! THIS IS FROM A MAN U FAN, WHO PLAYS AND COACHES FOOTBALL FOR OVER 48 YEARS UNLIKE SOME OF THE 20 YEAR OLD 'SPERMMS' WHO ARE GOING TO 'INSULT' ME HERE! WHATEVER.....

themadridguy
144. themadridguy Wrote: | 12.00BST | Jun 28, 2009

Reply to BEN DOVER:

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT IT WAS A BIG MISTAKE, YOU NEEDED A NEW COACH, NOT KAKA AND RONALDO, TWO OVERATED, OVERPRICED FUTURE LUXURY REZERVES AT REAL!! KAKA SHOWED ALL HIS POTENTIAL,NO MORE SURPRIZES FOR ADVERSARIES, AND RONALDO IS ALMOST THERE, HE IS MAN U STYLE, NOT REAL! THE LIKES OF PUYOL WILL...

Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Dipshit!

Luke
145. Luke Wrote: | 23.14BST | Jun 29, 2009

Sell everyone but van Nistelrooy! Seriously. Van Der Vaart is a good player, but not Real Madrid quality. Sneijder is good, but not sure there'll be room for him with Kaka and Ronaldo. Robben is world-class, but what's the point of having him when he's injured all the time. Drenthe's confidence has been shattered beyond repair. And Huntelaar.. well, I just never liked Huntelaar.

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