Monday, 04 May 09, 01:00 AM · Comments (119)
Rau'l is a legend, but legends retire at some point.
Following Real Madrid's humiliating defeat to Barcelona in El Clasico, everyone started talking about what should be done at the club to reshape the team and restore its pride and image as Spain's, Europe's, and the world's most powerful football club.
With elections coming up this month, most are certain that Florentino Perez will regain the presidential seat and re-adopt the 'Galacticos' strategy — a team that is filled with superstars. His idea only worked for a couple of years before, then it collapsed and the club had to hire Fabio Capello to do a 'clean-up' and get the team's spirit back.
I personally don't have anything against Señor Perez, but if he is really going to reform the team in the way the press is reporting, then Real will definitely go into a trophyless coma for another four or five years.
So here is what the club needs to do in order to avoid this fate ...
After this election, there should be no more. Real doesn't have to change presidents, and presidents who are in power should put a halt to the scandals and focus their efforts on serving the club rather than themselves and their desires.
To begin with, he is a top-notch football manager. The fact that Tottenham sacked him doesn't mean a darn thing. Heck, even Capello was sacked twice when he won two titles. If you are going to evaluate a coach, then your evaluation needs to be objective and systematic. Study Juande's history, tactical ability, and football knowledge and you'll realize he is one of the best coaches in Spain at the moment.
Another reason to keep Ramos is because there aren't any better ones at the moment. Fergie, Wenger, Mourinho, Ancelotti, and Rafa are all tied up with their clubs. You can go to the route Barca went to by hiring a former player and a younger coach, but it is too risky. Pepe Guardiola proves me wrong here, but why risk it when you already have a great coach in Juande Ramos?
What is the foundation of the team at the moment? Casillas, Ramos, Diarra, Higuain, Robben, Diarra, and Van Nistelrooy are the players that when gone, the team greatly suffers. Guti, Raul, Salgado, and Cannavaro are also important players, but due to their age, they can't continue at the club and thus can't be the foundation of the team. So the first thing to do is keep the young, yet important players and — you guessed it — let go of the old folks. Wish them the best of luck and serve them as well as they served the club when it needed them.
The coach, not the president or the guy who mows the pitch, is the one responsible for this task. He should analyze the team and its players. He should look at the areas which the club needs to re-strengthen, and look for players who could play in these areas.
The first thing he needs to do is look at the Castilla and see if there is really an impressive, extremely talented youngster who can seriously and quickly develop to be a first-team player. It is typically difficult to find such a player, but Real Madrid has one of the best youth systems in the world and has always presented fantastic players to the world. There has got to be another Messi out there.
The second step is to scout. Look at the youth sectors of other clubs and spot the unique talents there. Four clubs master this very well — Barcelona, AC Milan, Manchester United, and Arsenal. Most of their first team players are either youth products or players whom they discovered. Real needs a scout who is intelligent and understands football very well to take this job. Another thing is that he can keep his mouth shut until a deal is sealed with a young talent. Maybe a role for Zidane?
The third step, and a harder one to implement, is to look for already world-class players at other clubs. The art of this strategy relies in the research, and the way of approaching the players and their clubs. Ramon Calderon and his staff were poor at this. Barcelona and AC Milan master it. They can get whoever they want, without breaking any rules or starting any wars with other teams.
In terms of who should be signed, loaned, and sold, here they are ...
Winger: Franck Ribery
Real has always had problems on the flanks, especially when Robben was injured and sometimes even when he was fit. Los Merengues need someone like Ribery as I can't seem to think of someone as superb. What I like about Ribery is that he is truly world-class and less problematic. He is a leader, a team player, and has the potential to be a FIFA Player of the Year.
Left-back: Philipp Lahm
I can't think of anyone else but Lahm to play as a left back. Gabriel Heinze is an ex-footballer and it is irrational that he continues at the club. Marcelo is doing a good job, but a replacement for Heinze is important and with the characteristics that Lahm has, he could really be a good fit for the job.
Center back: ?
So now that Cannavaro is reportedly undergoing a medical with Juventus, Real needs to look for a quality center back. Garay, whom Real bought a while ago but loaned out to Racing, will be here in the summer, but can he be counted on? In any case, another defender should be signed to shore up the defense.
Gabriel Heinze
Heinze is no longer capable of playing at a competitive level so it is time for him to hang up his boots, at least at the Bernabeu. However, before he does that, Real needs to find a replacement.
Javier Saviola
It hurts to see Saviola not given any chances. Former coach Bernd Schuster is to blame because he was the one who brought him in and never used him. And now with Higuain, Huntelaar, Van Nistelrooy and Raul, Saviola basically has no chance of a first-team spot. Chances are close to zero and the best thing for him and for the club is that he goes to another team.
Fernando Gago
I've never been a big fan of Gago, but I do like him and think he is a good player, but I'd loan him to a strong team in Spain, Italy, or Engalnd so he can develop quickly. Instead of relying on him primarily, Real should be counting on Diarra and Lass because, in all honesty, they are so much better than Gago.
Royston Drenthe
Drenthe has the talent, but still lacks a lot of things — even basic things. And he'll never get chances with Marcelo, Robben, Higuain, and Huntelaar on the squad. A good solution is to loan him to another team (Juventus are said to be interested) and let him develop there.
Javi Garcia
As the case with his young teammates, Javi Garcia can't seem to get a chance with players like Lass and Sneijder on the team. It all depends on him. If he thinks he can be better than those guys, then he should probably give it a shot, but If he thinks he can't compete with them and doesn't want to sit on the bench, then loaning him would be a good idea.
Michel Salgado
Salgado has been at the club for a long time, and it must honor him. If he still wants to play football regularly, then he is free to go to the States or the Gulf, but If he is okay with a managerial role in the club, then he should be welcomed.
Guti
Guti's only problem is that he is inconsistent. If he wasn't, he would probably be one of the best players in the world. He, like Raul, has been at the club for a long time and while he shouldn't retire, he shouldn't expect a lot of playing time either. He needs to choose — a warm bench or a nice job at the Cantera.
Raul
Alright. I'm playing with fire here, but what the heck? Raul is a legend, and legends need to retire at some point. Raul shouldn't retire If he doesn't want to, but he should know that he is simply incapable of playing at a competitive level week in and week out. He limits Real's potential and sometimes influences its strategy. When Raul plays, the club plays with 10 men, not 11.
Though, part of the problem is the coach. No one has ever had the guts to bench Raul. Actually, I remember Capello doing it a couple of times, but Capello is no longer in Madrid and Juande or whoever will be the manager should have the courage to tell Raul to warm the bench sometimes.
A large part of the problem is that Real doesn't learn from its mistakes. Club officials don't learn from their mistakes. They keep doing the same thing over and over again. What Real needs is stability, work ethic, hard work, dedication, faith and most importantly patience.
I'm sure you've got something to say and I want to hear it. Do you agree or disagree with me? What do you think should be done to create a Champions League winning Real Madrid team?
I'm all ears.
Hala Madrid!
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I think the safest way to go for Gago is to loan him. He has been at the club for two seasons and a half and I think it is time for him to either sit on the bench or play at another team for sometime then comeback.
We really can't count on him anymore. Hadn't Lass been here, we would have suffered a lot in the midfield.
I agree on most things of this story, but I see some things differently..
why should we keep van nistelrooy, a old striker who was hurt all season..I don't think we will win cl. next year, so we need a fresh start here..
I don't want ribery, he's a heck of a player, but he's a prooven troublemaker..I would either ronaldo or kaka(does so in fact at Milan if you watch closely) play on the wing..I'm pretty confident we'l get one of them..xabi alonso should control the tempo of our game (cesc is highly unlikely
) since we loose our top games in this area (gago has to grow,that's right)..we have metzelder,pepe and garay for next year in defense, so I would only buy one young talented defender like mancienne from chelsea for 5 killos or so..lahm would be darn perfect, however, I think we can forget it..
I would sell guti,vdv,van nistelrooy,drenthe,heinze,saviola and m.diarra if we get a couple of money for them..
instead of lahm i would prefer yuri zirkov or clichy!!!! what do u think??? but this is all fanatsy because i think perez now has mastermind like zidane and he wont commit ugly mistakes>>if u dont trust perez then trust zidane!!believe everything is going to be fine
Very good written Adam
But I want to add some things:
1. I'm so happy that you chose Ribéry.
2. I don't want Lahm, I want Taye Taiwo, Marseille.He's a giant left back, very much similar to R.Carlos. Has the talent to be the world's best!
3. I want Lucio in the middle. Pepe is a very good back and I really hope for him to come back. But it has been said many times that he need a older, more experienced back besides him. So now if/when Canna goes, please take in Lucio!
Then when it comes to Raúl, I think it's mission impossible! First, give him some good midfielders, why not Gourcuff? Then you see miracles I guess.
Watch link, I don't like Alves but here I think he's very right!
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Raul is the real Real leader!
I think Adam that this is a very good post.! Especially about the stability of the club. Constant changing of presidents and sporting directors only bring instability and uncertainty. Who ever comes to these positions pushes their philosophy and therefore changing it every couple of years is a disaster if you ask me...
But i disagree about keeping Ramos. I think that this is not crucial. Bear me out here...
The thing's that you spoke about keeping the team foundation with the players you mentioned and strategically filling other positions is way more important than keeping Ramos and who ever comes to Real after elections should deal with this seriously...!!
raul is finished business!!!we should learn from what aragones and del bosque did.they excluded raul, made casillas their captain and now they r playing football which is better than that of barca..i dont know when we fans will learn!!we want to win but we also want to see raul playing....these both things cannot come together
I think clichy is the most propable name out there for left back..I'm ok with him, he's young and has already played a youple of machtes..xabi alonso and Kaka/ronaldo and we look quite good to me..of course ribery's name is out there since he's French and a friend of zizou, but I think he goes
(and ruins them, because he thinks he's better than messi
About the players that should be signed...
I like Ribery very much and that's why i wanted Mijatovic to seal the deal with him last summer. We even had the chance when he was still playing for Marseille. Great yob MIJATOVIC..!!
But even do if we bring Ribery i would like that new Rael officials bring David Silva also to tjis team. He has proven himself to the big stage nad even now when they played against Barca. He's movement is great, he's creativity is great and he's skills with the ball is also great. And not to mention he played a role as a backup striker so there would be space in the same team for him, Ribery and Robben.
Lahm is a good choice for a left back, but Zirkvo and Cissokho are also good choices...
The team foundation can do without the Van Nistelroy, he's old and has a lot of trouble with injuries. It would be great to sold him to Man. City for great money this summer.
I do agree with you about Salgado and Guti but not about Raul...!
Raul for me is not done yet.!! He isn't that good any more to be a starter but we can still have some benefits from his goalscoring skills and we should keep him.
I completely agree with you. Real Madrid should get Per Mertesacker to partner Pepe at centre back.
And there is one more position that i would like to fill in and thet is a position of Gago in the center midfield. Gago is a good player but he often losses himself on the field just like he did against Barca. He runs, yes... But he seems like he's running without any sense creating an opening behind him most of the time...
Fabregas can play in his position, his creativity is well known but he has the pace and he is a player that comes back, defends and helps the midfield... Other then him in this position Xabi Alonso would bring stability to the midfield....
Well that's my thought's on this...
Reply to BIM-56:
Very good written Adam
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But I want to add some things:
1. I'm so happy that you chose Ribéry.
2. I don't want Lahm, I want Taye Taiwo, Marseille.He's a giant left back, very much similar to R.Carlos. Has the talent to be the world's best!
3. I want Lucio in the...
Real Madrid cant get taye taiwo because he's not good enough to play for a big team like real.
i think silva would be a better choice as compared to ribery.i agree ribery is world class and so on but silva would bring another style to our attack which this team lacked.he plays a different style as that to robben.i believe silva and robben would complement each other perfectly.
Reply to Rireal:
And there is one more position that i would like to fill in and thet is a position of Gago in the center midfield. Gago is a good player but he often losses himself on the field just like he did against Barca. He runs, yes... But he seems like he's running without any sense creating an opening...
i dont understand why u all r going mad after xabi and cesc when there is next zidane out there!!why not buy gourcuff!!!
he is both attacking midfielder and probably the most creative after xavi..those guys who r following french league and especially bordoux would surely agree with me on this one..any one know about laurent blanc/??? he is way better than juande ramos at tactics and like i said anyone watching bordoux games this season would have noticed there gameplay is much similar to that of barcelona>>believe me on this one.. i am dead sure
..they try to pressurise opponent with there zonal midfield play and then creats threat through flanks just like barca does..AS a matter of fact even zidane is a fan of laurent blanc.. correct me if i got it wrong
Reply to Ludwig Hasbauer:
I agree on most things of this story, but I see some things differently..
why should we keep van nistelrooy, a old striker who was hurt all season..I don't think we will win cl. next year, so we need a fresh start here..
I don't want ribery, he's a heck of a player, but he's a prooven...
I think we should keep Van Nistelrooy because we need to have some kind of balance up font. We already have young blood that is in Higuain and Huntelaar, and so the experience is in Van Nistelrooy and Rau'l.
However, what is more appealing to me is that Van Nistelrooy is still capable of performing well in big matches. He is 31 or 32 but he has had good two seasons so far. If you remember he was EL Pichichi with 25 goals, add to that the number of goals he scored in Copa Del Ray, Champions League and Schuster's first season.
Reply to Ludwig Hasbauer:
I agree on most things of this story, but I see some things differently..
why should we keep van nistelrooy, a old striker who was hurt all season..I don't think we will win cl. next year, so we need a fresh start here..
I don't want ribery, he's a heck of a player, but he's a prooven...
I also don't think that Ribery is a proven troublemaker. On the contrary, he is a discblined professional and is a team player. One thing that also differentiates him is that he has pace as well as extrodinary ball control. In addition to Robben and Messi, he is the only one who can run as fast as he could and yet keep the ball close to his feet.
Not only is he a winger, but also a playmaker and a striker. You can't find that in a player at the moment.
As for Ronaldo and Kaka, for Godsake, we need to forget about them. They don't want to move to Real, so let them fu%^#k off
Reply to BIM-56:
Very good written Adam
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But I want to add some things:
1. I'm so happy that you chose Ribéry.
2. I don't want Lahm, I want Taye Taiwo, Marseille.He's a giant left back, very much similar to R.Carlos. Has the talent to be the world's best!
3. I want Lucio in the...
I'm not really sure who we should bring as a left-back, but from the top of my head, I can only think of Lahm. Obviously, this task is done by people who knows the market, so lets hope the next Sporting Director will make the right decisions.
Reply to trooper:
raul is finished business!!!we should learn from what aragones and del bosque did.they excluded raul, made casillas their captain and now they r playing football which is better than that of barca..i dont know when we fans will learn!!we want to win but we also want to see raul playing....these both...
No they can come together. Play Rau'l when he deserves to play. Rau'l can still win us games, but he can't win them all.
He needs to be benched when he plays like crap. And he needs to play when he plays like the old Rau'l. As simple as that.
Reply to Adambader:
Reply to Ludwig Hasbauer:I agree on most things of this story, but I see some things differently..
why should we keep van nistelrooy, a old striker who was hurt all season..I don't think we will win cl. next year, so we need a fresh start here..
I don't want ribery, he's a heck of a player, but he's a prooven...I also don't think that Ribery is a proven troublemaker. On the contrary, he is a discblined professional and is a team player. One thing that also differentiates him is that he has pace as well as extrodinary ball control. In addition to Robben and Messi, he is the only one who can run as fast as...
david silva is a proven striker,playmaker and even winger !
In terms of lineup, I think Juande has been consistent in that regard, but sometimes injuries are to blame.
Reply to Adambader:
Reply to Ludwig Hasbauer:I agree on most things of this story, but I see some things differently..
why should we keep van nistelrooy, a old striker who was hurt all season..I don't think we will win cl. next year, so we need a fresh start here..
I don't want ribery, he's a heck of a player, but he's a prooven...I think we should keep Van Nistelrooy because we need to have some kind of balance up font. We already have young blood that is in Higuain and Huntelaar, and so the experience is in Van Nistelrooy and Rau'l.
However, what is more appealing to me is that Van Nistelrooy is still capable...
my qustion then is who would you start up front in big matches, van nistelrooy and higuain?
then we don't develop hunter, and he's no talent, he's 25..I think we lack a striker who creates his own shot, just like benzema or d.villa..
van nistelrooy or hunter score if they get the ball in the penalty area, they don't dribble past defenders..and hguain is the best example why real madrid is no galacticos..he has scored I think 2 goals away from home, and no cl. goal..of course he's young ad I hope he gets it done, but he'll be no ronnie.
what do you say?
Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:
Reply to Adambader:Reply to Ludwig Hasbauer:I agree on most things of this story, but I see some things differently..
why should we keep van nistelrooy, a old striker who was hurt all season..I don't think we will win cl. next year, so we need a fresh start here..
I don't want ribery, he's a heck of a player, but he's a prooven...I think we should keep Van Nistelrooy because we need to have some kind of balance up font. We already have young blood that is in Higuain and Huntelaar, and so the experience is in Van Nistelrooy and Rau'l.
However, what is more appealing to me is that Van Nistelrooy is still capable...my qustion then is who would you start up front in big matches, van nistelrooy and higuain?
then we don't develop hunter, and he's no talent, he's 25..I think we lack a striker who creates his own shot, just like benzema or d.villa..
van nistelrooy or hunter score if they get the ball in...
I'd start who deserves to start. Every player has their ups and downs and rotation is good in this case.
In some scenarios, It would be wise to start with someone like Van Nistelrooy, but sometimes he can't keep in terms of pace and that's when Higuain needs to feature. It all depends on the coach.
Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:
Reply to Adambader:Reply to Ludwig Hasbauer:I agree on most things of this story, but I see some things differently..
why should we keep van nistelrooy, a old striker who was hurt all season..I don't think we will win cl. next year, so we need a fresh start here..
I don't want ribery, he's a heck of a player, but he's a prooven...I think we should keep Van Nistelrooy because we need to have some kind of balance up font. We already have young blood that is in Higuain and Huntelaar, and so the experience is in Van Nistelrooy and Rau'l.
However, what is more appealing to me is that Van Nistelrooy is still capable...my qustion then is who would you start up front in big matches, van nistelrooy and higuain?
then we don't develop hunter, and he's no talent, he's 25..I think we lack a striker who creates his own shot, just like benzema or d.villa..
van nistelrooy or hunter score if they get the ball in...
van nilsterooy and higuain creates their own chances most of the times if you actually pay attention to their games.
Nice article but i'd add Xabi Alonso to the list of signings unless we can recover De la Red. Gago should be loaned I agree but I have to remind you that we already have a totaly squad (including injuries) of 28 players and if you're going to add 3-4 more, at least 7-8 need to be sold.
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Nice article but i'd add Xabi Alonso to the list of signings unless we can recover De la Red. Gago should be loaned I agree but I have to remind you that we already have a totaly squad (including injuries) of 28 players and if you're going to add 3-4 more, at least 7-8 need to be sold.
To be sold
Heinze and Saviola
To be loaned
Gago, Drenthe, and Javi Garcia
Thats 5 players, add to the mix Cannavaro who is going to Juve and Salgado who is likely to play in Qatar. Tha's 7
Gago, Javi Garcia, Van der Waart, Drenthe, Saviola, Cannavaro, Heinze, Miguel Torres should be sold....
Since Garay is joining us in summer, Kaka, Ribery, Bruno Alves and Diego should bought
Reply to flynn:
Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:Reply to Adambader:I think we should keep Van Nistelrooy because we need to have some kind of balance up font. We already have young blood that is in Higuain and Huntelaar, and so the experience is in Van Nistelrooy and Rau'l.
However, what is more appealing to me is that Van Nistelrooy is still capable...my qustion then is who would you start up front in big matches, van nistelrooy and higuain?
then we don't develop hunter, and he's no talent, he's 25..I think we lack a striker who creates his own shot, just like benzema or d.villa..
van nistelrooy or hunter score if they get the ball in...van nilsterooy and higuain creates their own chances most of the times if you actually pay attention to their games.
common--van nistelrooy is the typical striker who waits for the ball and strikes, I actually haven't seen him run past defenders!! higuain yes, but at home against almeria, not in liverpool..that's what I mean if you read carefully..
Reply to Zwelakhe Msuthu:
Gago, Javi Garcia, Van der Waart, Drenthe, Saviola, Cannavaro, Heinze, Miguel Torres should be sold....
Since Garay is joining us in summer, Kaka, Ribery, Bruno Alves and Diego should bought
Why sell Torres and Van der vaart? The first is very good, the second hasn't spent a season at the club yet!
in liverpool, higuain was up against four players all by himself with no offensive support whatsoever to give him space.im sure even villa and benzema cant handle that.
Good point. But with Ribery and Robben on the wings, plus a play maker in central midfield, we can play good football.
Reply to flynn:
in liverpool, higuain was up against four players all by himself with no offensive support whatsoever to give him space.im sure even villa and benzema cant handle that.
Very true. He needs a proper partner. I like the idea of re-signing Negredo who is totally awesome. Every week, this highlights show comes on ESPN and each time the Player of the Week is Negredo
Do you guys think madrid can land kaka or c.ronaldo this year? I think we get kaka..
any one heard o latest rumour regarding zlatan to real madrid !!!
Reply to trooper:
any one heard o latest rumour regarding zlatan to real madrid !!!
Yeah but I consider the Spanish newspapers a joke and won't believe it. There's another rumor that Kaka's dad, who's his agent has said that he's eaving for Real. I don't buy this crap one bit. Lets all just ignore this shit and wait for Perez's speech so we can see who and what his promises.
A revolution is needed at Real Madrid. Juande has not earned his stripes. Out! Roberto Mancini - IN.
No more elections. Become a PLC now, like Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal...That would ensure that the best people capable would run the club, and thay would have a REAL stake in it, they would have something to lose. Not like the current pack of assholes who are their just to raise their profile.
Integrate the youth team. We have got more youth players than any other team in the world - and yet their current chances of making it at Real Madrid are zero. Fire the youth scouts, Portugal - OUT, Lopetegui - OUT and bring it into the remit of the current team coach.
Casillas, Sergio Ramos, Pepe, Lassana, Marcelo + Higuain should stay. The rest SELL THEM. Robben is a joke. How many excellent performances have we seen from him this season? 3? 4? and he cost us 33million Euros?
And who the hell is Phillip Lahm?
raul albiol for defense ? he's young and already a proven quality defender with experience.
Reply to Caracoleo:
A revolution is needed at Real Madrid. Juande has not earned his stripes. Out! Roberto Mancini - IN.
No more elections. Become a PLC now, like Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal...That would ensure that the best people capable would run the club, and thay would have a REAL stake in it,...
You don't know of Phillip Lahm, probably the best left-back in the world along eith Evra?
Reply to flynn:
raul albiol for defense ? he's young and already a proven quality defender with experience.
He's a very good option, Agger too but i'm in favour of giving Garay the spot. He's very much worth a try.
Reply to Caracoleo:
A revolution is needed at Real Madrid. Juande has not earned his stripes. Out! Roberto Mancini - IN.
No more elections. Become a PLC now, like Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal...That would ensure that the best people capable would run the club, and thay would have a REAL stake in it,...
Calm down. Lahm is a good player. He might not be Polo Maldini but for sure he is a good player. If you can find someone better than him, then please tell us and we will get him.
Robben is not a joke. He has helped us win crucial matches against Villarreal and Valencia, but he just can't play alone. That's why we need Ribery.
Reply to Caracoleo:
A revolution is needed at Real Madrid. Juande has not earned his stripes. Out! Roberto Mancini - IN.
No more elections. Become a PLC now, like Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal...That would ensure that the best people capable would run the club, and thay would have a REAL stake in it,...
Also, I'd reject the idea of someone owning the club. We are changing presidents not because of the elections, but because, as you said, they are assholes. Lets assume I got tons of billions of dollars and I am an asshole and I buy Real, how would you get rid of me? You probably can't. Just elect the right guy -- Laporta is an example.
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Reply to flynn:raul albiol for defense ? he's young and already a proven quality defender with experience.
He's a very good option, Agger too but i'm in favour of giving Garay the spot. He's very much worth a try.
yeah but with cannavaro leaving, we're only going to have 3 centrebacks including garay.and with our luck with injury, we need one more !
Reply to Caracoleo:
A revolution is needed at Real Madrid. Juande has not earned his stripes. Out! Roberto Mancini - IN.
No more elections. Become a PLC now, like Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal...That would ensure that the best people capable would run the club, and thay would have a REAL stake in it,...
i dont agree with most of ur outrageous claims because real madrid is not the property of anyone but it's loyal fans...besides i would better stick with juand then mancicni who is a complete joke>>>well does any one heard of laurent blanc!!!!
Reply to trooper:
Reply to Caracoleo:A revolution is needed at Real Madrid. Juande has not earned his stripes. Out! Roberto Mancini - IN.
No more elections. Become a PLC now, like Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal...That would ensure that the best people capable would run the club, and thay would have a REAL stake in it,...i dont agree with most of ur outrageous claims because real madrid is not the property of anyone but it's loyal fans...besides i would better stick with juand then mancicni who is a complete joke>>>well does any one heard of laurent blanc!!!!
Blanc is good but has he got the experience? He can only be brought if we think we're going to stick with him for 20 years which is NOT going to happen. The last thing a growing manager like him needs is a piledriver to put him right back where he started.
Reply to trooper:
Reply to Caracoleo:A revolution is needed at Real Madrid. Juande has not earned his stripes. Out! Roberto Mancini - IN.
No more elections. Become a PLC now, like Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal...That would ensure that the best people capable would run the club, and thay would have a REAL stake in it,...i dont agree with most of ur outrageous claims because real madrid is not the property of anyone but it's loyal fans...besides i would better stick with juand then mancicni who is a complete joke>>>well does any one heard of laurent blanc!!!!
yeah and he seems to be quite good but he looks to be unexperienced.although i would go for him rather than juande ramos.
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Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:Reply to flynn:raul albiol for defense ? he's young and already a proven quality defender with experience.
He's a very good option, Agger too but i'm in favour of giving Garay the spot. He's very much worth a try.
yeah but with cannavaro leaving, we're only going to have 3 centrebacks including garay.and with our luck with injury, we need one more !
That's a valid point put I wouldn't go for someone with the class of Agger or Albiol to be back-up. A promotion for a lucky lad from Castilla maybe?
Reply to flynn:
raul albiol for defense ? he's young and already a proven quality defender with experience.
Excellent point. And Valencia are desperate to sell...
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Reply to flynn:Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:He's a very good option, Agger too but i'm in favour of giving Garay the spot. He's very much worth a try.
yeah but with cannavaro leaving, we're only going to have 3 centrebacks including garay.and with our luck with injury, we need one more !
That's a valid point put I wouldn't go for someone with the class of Agger or Albiol to be back-up. A promotion for a lucky lad from Castilla maybe?
i didnt mean to go for albiol or agger if we're giving the spot to garay.i just meant to have another defender,possibly young.the only promising defender from castilla is Chema Anton and he's a bit inconsistent.im also excited to see daniel opare putting on the real madrid first team jersey some time in the future.
Reply to trooper:
Reply to Caracoleo:A revolution is needed at Real Madrid. Juande has not earned his stripes. Out! Roberto Mancini - IN.
No more elections. Become a PLC now, like Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal...That would ensure that the best people capable would run the club, and thay would have a REAL stake in it,...i dont agree with most of ur outrageous claims because real madrid is not the property of anyone but it's loyal fans...besides i would better stick with juand then mancicni who is a complete joke>>>well does any one heard of laurent blanc!!!!
Belongs to its loyal fans? you've been swallowing too much propaganda. Every president that comes along promises to respect the wishes of the socios and ends up shafting them up the backside.
I don't see what is wrong if the club is owned by someone with a track record of being successful?
Mancini has manged at Inter Milan and Lazio - SUCCESSFULLY. Juande? A joke at Spurs, and successful at Sevilla
Who? SEVILLA.
Who the hell are they?
They are a second rate team that won a UEFA cup.
Oh, right? Did thay also win the Spanish league, like Deportivo, and Valencia?
Er... no. Just the UEFA cup.
The WHAT cup?
The UEFA cup - It's like the Champions league for second rate teams.
So, he's managed a second rate team successfully then? At least he knows how to spot talent and develop it though.
Well, actually, Monchi was in charge of that at Sevilla, and in fact Real Madrid wanted to bring him in years ago.
Oh, so Ramos has to actually SHARE the credit of his success at a second rate team with the sporting director, Monchi?
Got it in one.
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Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:Reply to flynn:yeah but with cannavaro leaving, we're only going to have 3 centrebacks including garay.and with our luck with injury, we need one more !
That's a valid point put I wouldn't go for someone with the class of Agger or Albiol to be back-up. A promotion for a lucky lad from Castilla maybe?
i didnt mean to go for albiol or agger if we're giving the spot to garay.i just meant to have another defender,possibly young.the only promising defender from castilla is Chema Anton and he's a bit inconsistent.im also excited to see daniel opare putting on the real madrid first team jersey some...
Opare has bags of potential and we should really make sure he develops well.
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Reply to trooper:Reply to Caracoleo:A revolution is needed at Real Madrid. Juande has not earned his stripes. Out! Roberto Mancini - IN.
No more elections. Become a PLC now, like Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal...That would ensure that the best people capable would run the club, and thay would have a REAL stake in it,...i dont agree with most of ur outrageous claims because real madrid is not the property of anyone but it's loyal fans...besides i would better stick with juand then mancicni who is a complete joke>>>well does any one heard of laurent blanc!!!!
Belongs to its loyal fans? you've been swallowing too much propaganda. Every president that comes along promises to respect the wishes of the socios and ends up shafting them up the backside.
I don't see what is wrong if the club is owned by someone with a track record of being...
just ask AC milan fans what it i like!!! u will get ur answer....
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Reply to flynn:Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:That's a valid point put I wouldn't go for someone with the class of Agger or Albiol to be back-up. A promotion for a lucky lad from Castilla maybe?
i didnt mean to go for albiol or agger if we're giving the spot to garay.i just meant to have another defender,possibly young.the only promising defender from castilla is Chema Anton and he's a bit inconsistent.im also excited to see daniel opare putting on the real madrid first team jersey some...
Opare has bags of potential and we should really make sure he develops well.
he might just give sergio ramos a run for his money in the future!but does anyone know about the injury he picked up earlier in the season ?i havent heard about him ever since.
The whole Mancini point is quite stupid. Would you call Schuster better than Juande or Mancini because he was successfull at Getafe AND Real Madrid. He won a title and for some reason, that's how you're judging your coaches. Mancini truly was a bad coach and his team was only winning the title because of the whole Scuddetto scandal and Milan's downfall. He was as big a flop in the Champions League as any manager we've had in the last 5 years. And yes, Juande was bad at Spurs but there were reasons for that. For one, the players weren't ready to listen to him and because of the language barrier, things got worse. The club did not listen to him and sold their best players against his will. The players at Tottenham never like the idea of him being coach in the first place. The likes of Hiddink and Camacho have flopped miserably at Real, does that make them any worse?
Reply to flynn:
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:Reply to flynn:i didnt mean to go for albiol or agger if we're giving the spot to garay.i just meant to have another defender,possibly young.the only promising defender from castilla is Chema Anton and he's a bit inconsistent.im also excited to see daniel opare putting on the real madrid first team jersey some...
Opare has bags of potential and we should really make sure he develops well.
he might just give sergio ramos a run for his money in the future!but does anyone know about the injury he picked up earlier in the season ?i havent heard about him ever since.
He returned some time ago but he's still trying to gain match fitness and it's likely he won't play this season.
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Reply to trooper:Reply to Caracoleo:A revolution is needed at Real Madrid. Juande has not earned his stripes. Out! Roberto Mancini - IN.
No more elections. Become a PLC now, like Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal...That would ensure that the best people capable would run the club, and thay would have a REAL stake in it,...i dont agree with most of ur outrageous claims because real madrid is not the property of anyone but it's loyal fans...besides i would better stick with juand then mancicni who is a complete joke>>>well does any one heard of laurent blanc!!!!
Belongs to its loyal fans? you've been swallowing too much propaganda. Every president that comes along promises to respect the wishes of the socios and ends up shafting them up the backside.
I don't see what is wrong if the club is owned by someone with a track record of being...
Who the hell is Guardiola?
He is the manager of Barcelona.
Barcelona who are still alive and kicking in three competitions and are considered to be Europe's strongest team at the moment. Barcelona who are making history and setting new records.
What is Guardiola's CV? Well, nothing that I know. Juande's record is better I guess.
Well, mate, it doesn't work like that. It is not always about CVs and statistics. Granted that they show you that a coach is of high quality and has achieved something for himself, but there are other things to consider. Can you tell me why Mourinho isn't as successful at Inter as he was in Chelsea?
And Mancini, he won the Seria A with Inter, that's fine, but what about the Champions League? Eh, Schuster won us the league.
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The whole Mancini point is quite stupid. Would you call Schuster better than Juande or Mancini because he was successfull at Getafe AND Real Madrid. He won a title and for some reason, that's how you're judging your coaches. Mancini truly was a bad coach and his team was only winning the title...
That's what I was trying to say.
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Reply to flynn:Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:Opare has bags of potential and we should really make sure he develops well.
he might just give sergio ramos a run for his money in the future!but does anyone know about the injury he picked up earlier in the season ?i havent heard about him ever since.
He returned some time ago but he's still trying to gain match fitness and it's likely he won't play this season.
thanks for the info !
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Reply to Caracoleo:Reply to trooper:i dont agree with most of ur outrageous claims because real madrid is not the property of anyone but it's loyal fans...besides i would better stick with juand then mancicni who is a complete joke>>>well does any one heard of laurent blanc!!!!
Belongs to its loyal fans? you've been swallowing too much propaganda. Every president that comes along promises to respect the wishes of the socios and ends up shafting them up the backside.
I don't see what is wrong if the club is owned by someone with a track record of being...Who the hell is Guardiola?
He is the manager of Barcelona.
Barcelona who are still alive and kicking in three competitions and are considered to be Europe's strongest team at the moment. Barcelona who are making history and setting new records.
What is...
precise and to the point!!!!i think the situation is not in the hands of fans right know..let the proceeding party take steps accordingly to he needs of the club
Well, you guys stick with Juande. We'll be having similar conversations next year, I can tell you.
Bad tactical changes. you can't dispute that. Taking off Marcelo - the only guy who looked likely to manufacture a chance from midfield - to bring on Huntelaar - the striker who mare than anybody else depends upon good service from midfield?
Can anyone explain why Raul plays ALL the matches, 90 MINUTES? And you say that Juande is the solution for the future? God help us!
This would not happen under Roberto Mancini. He would drop Raul like the dead weight he is. Have a testimonial match, and show him the door.
And while we're on this subject, I don't want to see any statues of that decrepid parasite, or any training pitches named after him, or any special 'Raul Gonzalez Lifetime Achievement' awards.
He should be branded the leech that he is and booted out so that Real Madrid can once again start to get itself in order.
Mancini is young, successful at the top level, ruthless when he needs to be, and is able to strike a balance between defensive and attacking football.
He is relatively inexperienced, I know. But so was this Guartrola guy.
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Well, you guys stick with Juande. We'll be having similar conversations next year, I can tell you.
Bad tactical changes. you can't dispute that. Taking off Marcelo - the only guy who looked likely to manufacture a chance from midfield - to bring on Huntelaar - the striker who mare than...
Juande does make mistakes. All coaches make mistakes, but just take a look at how he has transformed the team. Do you realize that we were in fifth place when he took over? Do you realize that the defeat against Barcelona ended an 18-match unbeaten run? And he only came in the middle of the season.
We had a very good chance of winning the league thanks to him. Thanks to him that Robben, Rau'l, and Higuain started playing well. Thanks to him that we managed to sign Lass and Huntelaar.
Had Schuster remained the coach we wouldn't have certainly been in this position now. Schuster, Calderon and Mijatovic put all of us in this position. Had Real hired someone else, I doubt we would have managed to go unbeaten from a Clasico to another.
Also considering the players he has had, and the injuries to some of our key man, he did a very good job. Just imagine if he had more time, resources and players he needed, what would he do?
Give the guy a break!
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Well, you guys stick with Juande. We'll be having similar conversations next year, I can tell you.
Bad tactical changes. you can't dispute that. Taking off Marcelo - the only guy who looked likely to manufacture a chance from midfield - to bring on Huntelaar - the striker who mare than...
Btw, I really enjoy your discussions. Keep it up
I think besides Ribery...we can get Silva and maybe also De Maria (who for some reason isn't being mentioned anymore)But I prefer Silva and Ribary.
As a centre back I think the best would be Chiellini (but it's amost impossible).
So we can either use musacchio (from the Castilla) or maybe Albiol,Ivanovic,Zapata,Meira,Naldo,Matesacker
I would add RVN with the players to sell.
Now the things I don't agree with are...
1)Why loan Gago?If Lass or Diarra get injured who will play?
2)Why try to get rid of Raul when he scored 18 goals this season?I don't see that as bad...how much more does he need to score considering his age?I wouldn't start him but he should be used as a super-sub...but not sell him...or tell him 10x...but we don't need you anymore.
Lastly if we'll sell Saviola and RVN(or according to you...Raul) I would bring back Negredo
There is BREAKING NEWS MADRIDISTAS .. Florentino Perez will announce his intention to run in the presidancy on May 14th.. some names he is mentinon are Kaka,Cristiano Ronaldo,Cesc,Villa,Silva,Xabi Alonso, Negredo.. obviously he will not buy all but those are just some names
1) Keep things stable - got your point - fire the 3/4th of the squad, build a now one from the scratch.
2) Keep Juande Ramos - hell, no. He failed miserably in such a vital game against cules. No vision, no changes of tactics, nothing. Just inviting the catalanes - please, humiliate me here in Madrid.
3) Keep the team's foundation - 100% agree. We differ on Rail, though. He is a legend and should stay. Period.
4) Feed the team strategically - good point, but you support Juande? What a joke. He is miles away from terms like strategy and game plan changer. Just remember how Capello could turn things around with an ease. I mean it - Juande is a crap.
We should return to galactico era - 3 superstars and lots of promising young tallent from cantera and Spain.
To be signed
1- Winger: Franck Ribery - hell YEAH!!! I wonder where was the retard Kijatovic last year., Moron. Completely hate him for what he's done for Real Madrid.
Very good alternative is jesus Navas of Sevilla.
2- Left-back: Phillip Lahm - agree. Why on earth mijatobich sold roberto carlos in the first place? IDIOT. MORON.
3. Center back - bring back Garay. Mijatovic is a moron for letting him off to a loan. Idiot.
To be sold - everyone except the foundation. This is Gago, Drenthe, Saviola, Salgado and Guti.
Probably only Javi Garcia should be loaned but if there pops up a buyer - sell him.
Perez should do the miracle of turning our chances from misery to glory. He needs guys like Jorge Valdano to balance the team with 2-3 superstars and also to increase the Spanish players.
Couldn't have said it better than that. But there is a huge huge flaw in your article.
How can you not know that Juande supports Raul? If you want Juande to stay then it automatically means more years for Raul on the pitch. Therefor we need to get rid of Juande and get a Coach with character. One that doesn't care what the fans think, one that produces results on the long run. You don't even know if Juande is that type of coach, because his CV only shows small bursts of glory in his coaching career, rather than huge results through building and management that requires time, consistency and balance to achieve. Still don't get me? See Alex Ferguson and Arsen Wenger as examples.
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Couldn't have said it better than that. But there is a huge huge flaw in your article.
How can you not know that Juande supports Raul? If you want Juande to stay then it automatically means more years for Raul on the pitch. Therefor we need to get rid of Juande and get a Coach...
In the last 15 years, Real Madrid has been coached by many coaches and none of those had the balls to bench Rau'l. I bet you that it is highly likely our next coach will not bench Rau'l. Why? I don't really know. It confuses me. I don't believe the theory that Rau'l control what goes inside the club, but I believe there is something else that stops coaches from benching him. His personality? His achievements? I don't know.
As for Juande and his CV, I've talked about this earlier in a comment, but will replicate the same points. An impressive CV won't hurt for sure and it is usually a good indication to whether the coach is a successful or an unsuccessful coach, but it is not the only thing on which we should base our evaluation. An example I used earlier is Guardiola. He practically has no CV related to coaching, but here he is making history with Barcelona.
In order to succeed, you have to have faith in your work and in the people you work with. Trust me, this applies to all areas in life, so let's believe in Juande.
Reply to Madridista, Bulgaria:
1) Keep things stable - got your point - fire the 3/4th of the squad, build a now one from the scratch.
2) Keep Juande Ramos - hell, no. He failed miserably in such a vital game against cules. No vision, no changes of tactics, nothing. Just inviting the catalanes - please, humiliate me...
1- If you got my point then why did you say: fire the 3/4th of the squad, build a now one from the scratch.? You gotta be kidding me.
2- If you are going to judge Juande on one match then here you go: Liverpool trashed Man UTD 4-1 at the Old Traford. Fergie sucks!
3- You basically said: "We should return to galactico era - 3 superstars and lots of promising young tallent from cantera and Spain."
Oh yeah, you've caught the Perez-flue. To build a successful team, you need balance. You can't have three superstars and eight second-division-rated players on the same squaD (Zidane, Ronaldo, Beckham -- Pavon, Mejia, Salgado, Huelgera, Celades) You remember?
4- I still think it is unwise to sell Gago and Drenthe -- loan them -- you won't lose anything, you'll profit!
Completely agree with the last two comments Adam. Well-said.
everbody here who thinks continuity is important should ask himself if he questions juande..real madrid have won 17 out of 18 matches before a horrible loss..I don't get it why people critisice juande when he took over a disastrous team..he's not jesus christ who makes gago a superstar overnight, but he gets the maximum talent out of this team..
I don't understand why raul plays always, but it's a matter of fact that he's a role model for each player in every training session and on and off the pitch.I think he's important on the pitch not only because of his own performance, but he makes others better..
I am convinced he wont be a starter next year, but will be a very important player in this squad!
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everbody here who thinks continuity is important should ask himself if he questions juande..real madrid have won 17 out of 18 matches before a horrible loss..I don't get it why people critisice juande when he took over a disastrous team..he's not jesus christ who makes gago a superstar overnight,...
Totally agree. Can't you people see? It wasn't only Juande who didn't have the balls to bench Raul, the master of ball, Fabio Capello couldn't do it. It puzzles me too but there's something to all this. It's stupid to blame coaches for the Raul thing. I also feel he won't stand Perez's changes but I still feel Juande should stay unless we can somebody of the calibre of Mourinho or Benitez which is highly unlikely.
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Reply to Madrids_Martyr:Couldn't have said it better than that. But there is a huge huge flaw in your article.
How can you not know that Juande supports Raul? If you want Juande to stay then it automatically means more years for Raul on the pitch. Therefor we need to get rid of Juande and get a Coach...In the last 15 years, Real Madrid has been coached by many coaches and none of those had the balls to bench Rau'l. I bet you that it is highly likely our next coach will not bench Rau'l. Why? I don't really know. It confuses me. I don't believe the theory that Rau'l control what goes inside the...
Raul should have been benched 5 years ago exactly. He would have then regained his form(maybe). More than 5 years ago Raul was brilliant.
Well I think there is only 1 indication on why Raul plays/has to play.
Here is my evaluation.
There is a crisis inside Real Madrid's economy. Yeah we are the top club in the world in terms of revenue. But what about profit? When perez left he made a really big dent in our financial situation. All clubs have debt and real madrid is one of those clubs but its never disclosed. So I believe to help this debt from becoming to big to handle, real Madrid have become desperate and they looked at which item generates the most income for them. So what is it you think? Its Rauls shirt. Selling his shirt is priority over everything. Even over winning the champions league. Because realistically after capello Madrids administration knows that we'll never get the champions league(the big money).
This is what I believe. How many hear baught Madrids shirt? Did you go have dinner after the game? Were you ashamed of going out wearing the shirt after the game? Its ok we all were.
Lets rebuild R.Madrid again. Lets lose the pathetic mainstream fans who "some" don't know crap about football(see goal.com), this will force Madrid in changing their tactic in getting profits and maybe then we'll have the CL, Kings cup and La liga as the administrations main goal.
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Reply to Madridista, Bulgaria:1) Keep things stable - got your point - fire the 3/4th of the squad, build a now one from the scratch.
2) Keep Juande Ramos - hell, no. He failed miserably in such a vital game against cules. No vision, no changes of tactics, nothing. Just inviting the catalanes - please, humiliate me...1- If you got my point then why did you say: fire the 3/4th of the squad, build a now one from the scratch.? You gotta be kidding me.
2- If you are going to judge Juande on one match then here you go: Liverpool trashed Man UTD 4-1 at the Old Traford. Fergie sucks!
3- You...
Hi Adambader,
isn't your point to keep 7-8 players and to restructure the whole team around them?
I am a fan of galactico era, loved Figo, Zizu and Ronaldo tandem. I just miss having hugely important players who can win matches when the team is not playing well. Only Raul is close to doing that.
I do agree for the balance - I want more Spanish players, that's why if I were Perez, I would go for spanish superstars like Villa, Silva, Fabregas and just one new foreigner (Ribery is enough).
We have too many foreigners in our squad.
I am still pissed at Gago so I opt for selling him straight away. As for Drenthe - I agree he has a potential and should be loaned.
HALA MADRID!
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
Reply to Adambader:Reply to Madrids_Martyr:Couldn't have said it better than that. But there is a huge huge flaw in your article.
How can you not know that Juande supports Raul? If you want Juande to stay then it automatically means more years for Raul on the pitch. Therefor we need to get rid of Juande and get a Coach...In the last 15 years, Real Madrid has been coached by many coaches and none of those had the balls to bench Rau'l. I bet you that it is highly likely our next coach will not bench Rau'l. Why? I don't really know. It confuses me. I don't believe the theory that Rau'l control what goes inside the...
Raul should have been benched 5 years ago exactly. He would have then regained his form(maybe). More than 5 years ago Raul was brilliant.
Well I think there is only 1 indication on why Raul plays/has to play.
Here is my evaluation.
There is a crisis inside...
usually fans buy shirts of players 1. they like
2. who are great
and nobody buys three raul shirts!
I have one from 6 years ago! I won't buy a new one..
I will buy a shirt from kaka, benzema or fabregas, but not from raul, and that's the way most fans have seen it for a couple of years..
so I don't think he plays because of the money..
You didn't get me. My point was Raul is a huge factor in selling RM's shirt. And he's the most loved RM player. It doesn't matter who's shirt you are buying really. Its madrids shirt. But the ones that have Raul printed on the back are sold the most.
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
Reply to Adambader:Reply to Madrids_Martyr:Couldn't have said it better than that. But there is a huge huge flaw in your article.
How can you not know that Juande supports Raul? If you want Juande to stay then it automatically means more years for Raul on the pitch. Therefor we need to get rid of Juande and get a Coach...In the last 15 years, Real Madrid has been coached by many coaches and none of those had the balls to bench Rau'l. I bet you that it is highly likely our next coach will not bench Rau'l. Why? I don't really know. It confuses me. I don't believe the theory that Rau'l control what goes inside the...
Raul should have been benched 5 years ago exactly. He would have then regained his form(maybe). More than 5 years ago Raul was brilliant.
Well I think there is only 1 indication on why Raul plays/has to play.
Here is my evaluation.
There is a crisis inside...
First off, you think Real is not profitable. According to Forbes, we are the richest club in the world. Richer than Man UTD and Chelsea with their billionaires.
Secondly, you are basically saying, thanks to Rau'l we are selling shirts. So Rau'l is who is largely helping us make ends meet. Well, If I wanted to buy a Real Madrid shirt, I'd want my name on it or the name of my favorite player which in this case is not Rau'l. The same goes with all Madrid fans, they'd want the shirt of their favorite player, and Rau'l isn't the only favorite one.
Thirdly, the large sum of Real's revenue comes from TV rights. Calderon made a huge deal with La Sixta (correct me If I'm wrong) and it brought hundreds of millions of euros to the club. Also commercials and sponsorships pay well.
Reply to Madridista, Bulgaria:
Reply to Adambader:Reply to Madridista, Bulgaria:1) Keep things stable - got your point - fire the 3/4th of the squad, build a now one from the scratch.
2) Keep Juande Ramos - hell, no. He failed miserably in such a vital game against cules. No vision, no changes of tactics, nothing. Just inviting the catalanes - please, humiliate me...1- If you got my point then why did you say: fire the 3/4th of the squad, build a now one from the scratch.? You gotta be kidding me.
2- If you are going to judge Juande on one match then here you go: Liverpool trashed Man UTD 4-1 at the Old Traford. Fergie sucks!
3- You...Hi Adambader,
isn't your point to keep 7-8 players and to restructure the whole team around them?
I am a fan of galactico era, loved Figo, Zizu and Ronaldo tandem. I just miss having hugely important players who can win matches when the team is not playing well. Only Raul...
I loved Zidane, Ronaldo and Beckham, but hey, we are a football club not Hollywood.
What I am trying to say is it doesn't hurt If you have a couple or even three superstars, but you need to balance the squad. When Perez was in charge, we basically had fantastic players on the wings and upfront but we didn't have defenders. You need to be strong in every position.
barca controlled the game because of two main players.. xavi, and iniesta.. barca played a 4-3-3, while we played 4-4-2.. did we really think gago could outperform xavi AND iniesta? lass could compete with yaya toure, but gago? come on.. we should have started VDV instead of raul, although that was impossible.. and why sub ramos for VDV? that meant lass would play right back, and VDV and gago in the center.. gago vs barca's midfield, who would obviously win?! metzelder did well, but heinze, he was a joke.. robben, casillas and higuain were our best players..
if you go on madrid's website, this season they are always talking about that we made history this season.. i guess they're right, but for all the wrong reasons..
we don't need a complete overhaul, we just need only a couple.. HALA MADRID..!
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
Reply to Adambader:Reply to Madrids_Martyr:Couldn't have said it better than that. But there is a huge huge flaw in your article.
How can you not know that Juande supports Raul? If you want Juande to stay then it automatically means more years for Raul on the pitch. Therefor we need to get rid of Juande and get a Coach...In the last 15 years, Real Madrid has been coached by many coaches and none of those had the balls to bench Rau'l. I bet you that it is highly likely our next coach will not bench Rau'l. Why? I don't really know. It confuses me. I don't believe the theory that Rau'l control what goes inside the...
Raul should have been benched 5 years ago exactly. He would have then regained his form(maybe). More than 5 years ago Raul was brilliant.
Well I think there is only 1 indication on why Raul plays/has to play.
Here is my evaluation.
There is a crisis inside...
maybe u r right maybe u r wrong!!!as far as i know real madrid gets financial help from jews!!!almost 55 % of shares belongs to jews....i am not just making it up..i read these fact in a newspaper article>>>
Reply to Adambader:
I think the safest way to go for Gago is to loan him. He has been at the club for two seasons and a half and I think it is time for him to either sit on the bench or play at another team for sometime then comeback.
We really can't count on him anymore. Hadn't Lass been here, we would...
Word brother preach
Reply to Adambader:
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:Reply to Adambader:In the last 15 years, Real Madrid has been coached by many coaches and none of those had the balls to bench Rau'l. I bet you that it is highly likely our next coach will not bench Rau'l. Why? I don't really know. It confuses me. I don't believe the theory that Rau'l control what goes inside the...
Raul should have been benched 5 years ago exactly. He would have then regained his form(maybe). More than 5 years ago Raul was brilliant.
Well I think there is only 1 indication on why Raul plays/has to play.
Here is my evaluation.
There is a crisis inside...First off, you think Real is not profitable. According to Forbes, we are the richest club in the world. Richer than Man UTD and Chelsea with their billionaires.
Secondly, you are basically saying, thanks to Rau'l we are selling shirts. So Rau'l is who is largely helping us make ends...
Since when did I say Real is not profitable?
Only the minority of RM's fans don't consider Raul as the top player. Whether you wanna believe it or not. Its like the friggin sun in broad daylight. Mainstream RM is a whole lot about Raul.
Being the richest club doesn't mean you'll continue being the richest club unless you have a economical plan for the future to continue the required average in revenue. Real Madrid aren't the most profitable club anymore,
source your information now!!! The one you claim about forbes 2008-2009
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
Reply to Adambader:Reply to Madrids_Martyr:Raul should have been benched 5 years ago exactly. He would have then regained his form(maybe). More than 5 years ago Raul was brilliant.
Well I think there is only 1 indication on why Raul plays/has to play.
Here is my evaluation.
There is a crisis inside...First off, you think Real is not profitable. According to Forbes, we are the richest club in the world. Richer than Man UTD and Chelsea with their billionaires.
Secondly, you are basically saying, thanks to Rau'l we are selling shirts. So Rau'l is who is largely helping us make ends...Since when did I say Real is not profitable?
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Only the minority of RM's fans don't consider Raul as the top player. Whether you wanna believe it or not. Its like the friggin sun in broad daylight. Mainstream RM is a whole lot about Raul.
Being the richest club doesn't...
This is what you said:
"There is a crisis inside Real Madrid's economy. Yeah we are the top club in the world in terms of revenue. But what about profit? When perez left he made a really big dent in our financial "
Revenue = profit. You were confused and you also confused me
The point is selling Raul's shirt is not a priority in terms of revenue generation. What is a priority is building a successful team that plays good football and win titles, which in return bring profits. When the team wins, TV rights usually go up, more supporters are attracted, and more products are sold, more branding is spread.
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
Reply to Adambader:Reply to Madrids_Martyr:Raul should have been benched 5 years ago exactly. He would have then regained his form(maybe). More than 5 years ago Raul was brilliant.
Well I think there is only 1 indication on why Raul plays/has to play.
Here is my evaluation.
There is a crisis inside...First off, you think Real is not profitable. According to Forbes, we are the richest club in the world. Richer than Man UTD and Chelsea with their billionaires.
Secondly, you are basically saying, thanks to Rau'l we are selling shirts. So Rau'l is who is largely helping us make ends...Since when did I say Real is not profitable?
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Only the minority of RM's fans don't consider Raul as the top player. Whether you wanna believe it or not. Its like the friggin sun in broad daylight. Mainstream RM is a whole lot about Raul.
Being the richest club doesn't...
Yes, I made a mistake. This is this years list and Real sit second
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Reply to Adambader:
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:Reply to Adambader:First off, you think Real is not profitable. According to Forbes, we are the richest club in the world. Richer than Man UTD and Chelsea with their billionaires.
Secondly, you are basically saying, thanks to Rau'l we are selling shirts. So Rau'l is who is largely helping us make ends...Since when did I say Real is not profitable?
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Only the minority of RM's fans don't consider Raul as the top player. Whether you wanna believe it or not. Its like the friggin sun in broad daylight. Mainstream RM is a whole lot about Raul.
Being the richest club doesn't...Yes, I made a mistake. This is this years list and Real sit second
LINK
And still this valuation does not show profit. Profit is never disclosed to the public. 2 mistakes
revenue is the amount of money generated, not taking the costs into the consideration. Profit is the surplus after taking all costs into consideration. So your basic profit formula is:
profit = revenue - costs
One name for all of you guys EDIN DZEKO!!!!!!!
He is the one who can take the ball and score!!!!!!
Look at him please!!!
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
You didn't get me. My point was Raul is a huge factor in selling RM's shirt. And he's the most loved RM player. It doesn't matter who's shirt you are buying really. Its madrids shirt. But the ones that have Raul printed on the back are sold the most.
I think I got you indeed.what I want to say is it doesn't matter if raul plays or not, many fans don't buy shirts because of him..
they buy either because of a cool player like zidane, or because they are fans of real..
marketing would be if they buy kaka, an adidas idol..
but raul's business time is over..the poor thing is they have to use raul as their idol because they didn't get kaka 2 years and ronaldo 1 year ago..
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
Reply to Adambader:Reply to Madrids_Martyr:Since when did I say Real is not profitable?
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Only the minority of RM's fans don't consider Raul as the top player. Whether you wanna believe it or not. Its like the friggin sun in broad daylight. Mainstream RM is a whole lot about Raul.
Being the richest club doesn't...Yes, I made a mistake. This is this years list and Real sit second
LINK
And still this valuation does not show profit. Profit is never disclosed to the public. 2 mistakes
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Then that way, the whole Premier League is pretty much not profitbale due to their immense debts
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:Reply to Adambader:Yes, I made a mistake. This is this years list and Real sit second
LINK
And still this valuation does not show profit. Profit is never disclosed to the public. 2 mistakes
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Then that way, the whole Premier League is pretty much not profitbale due to their immense debts
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Thats pretty much true believe it or not.
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:Reply to Madrids_Martyr:And still this valuation does not show profit. Profit is never disclosed to the public. 2 mistakes
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Then that way, the whole Premier League is pretty much not profitbale due to their immense debts
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Thats pretty much true believe it or not.
I know it's true, i'm just pointing out the financial crisis in the Premier League
the only thing still missing in Real Madrid is that we didn't find a midfield replacement at ZIZOO class.
We need a brain head of the club like what zizou used to play this role...
Forwards can do nothing if they do not have a strong, skillful and world class player in the back... We are so far at the moment with quality of players we have to dream of europeans titles.
Daniel:
Jesus Christ! Silva, Di Maria, Ribery... can you see a pattern forming here? I thought we agreed that balance was the key? What is the point of bringing in 3 clones?
Also we are forgetting that we need people with a big game mentality. Above all that is what we need. People with 2 big cojones. I don't care if they can't do 5 step overs.
Reply to madridtrini4:
barca controlled the game because of two main players.. xavi, and iniesta.. barca played a 4-3-3, while we played 4-4-2.. did we really think gago could outperform xavi AND iniesta? lass could compete with yaya toure, but gago? come on.. we should have started VDV instead of raul, although that was...
It's not only a couple mate. You are wrong if you think that we only need a couple of changes. More than half the team needs to go. Of course that won't happen- not feasible, I know. Put simply, there are half a dozen players who can't perform at the top level.
Juande is another problem. Can't believe there are people still defending him. Talk about burying your head in the sand!
He practically sent out our team to commit suicide. Playing with a defence so far up field - EVEN AFTER WE TOOK THE LEAD! We had the lead Juande, amazing as it sounds, we were in the driving seat! And you asked us to slit our own throats. Instead of laying down a tactical mine field for Barcelona's tippy tappy passing, we invited them to pick holes in our defence. Thanks a lot. And people here still say that you are the coach to take us to that next European Cup next year, when the final will be held in the Bernabeu.
Reply to Caracoleo:
Daniel:
Jesus Christ! Silva, Di Maria, Ribery... can you see a pattern forming here? I thought we agreed that balance was the key? What is the point of bringing in 3 clones?
Also we are forgetting that we need people with a big game mentality. Above all that is what we need....
i agree with u at almost everything except the manager issue!!i am neithe rin favour of juande nor against him ...all i want is tactician who can change game just like capello used to do sending in two substitute and there u go!!!unfortunetly we just saw how big blunder juande commited by substituting sergio and bringing in a joker a.k.a javi garcia..i am confused just like u mentioned earlier we might again be here at this very blog next year criticising juande ramos..
i think real madrid should get either french or dutch manager or if possible rafa benitez
ADAM BADER Do you know your report is on FOX SPORTS.. here is the link LINK just remingiding you incase you didnt know wow keep up the great writing love this site
Reply to Madridista4:
ADAM BADER Do you know your report is on FOX SPORTS.. here is the link LINK just remingiding you incase you didnt know wow keep up the great writing love this site
congratulation adam!!! i guess soon MARCA might offer u a job as a chief editor
who knows!!!! keep up the good work
Reply to Madridista4:
ADAM BADER Do you know your report is on FOX SPORTS.. here is the link LINK just remingiding you incase you didnt know wow keep up the great writing love this site
OMG! I had a feeling this article would be picked up by a big site! Thanks for letting me know!
"Happy Dance"!
Reply to trooper:
Reply to Madridista4:ADAM BADER Do you know your report is on FOX SPORTS.. here is the link LINK just remingiding you incase you didnt know wow keep up the great writing love this site
congratulation adam!!! i guess soon MARCA might offer u a job as a chief editor
who knows!!!! keep up the good work
Thanks! I appreciate it
We need more than one real class player like Ribery!
Agree with Casillas,Ramos,Lass,Mahmadou,Pipita, Robben and Pepe(if succesfully recover,I hope).Only not Lahm,rather Clichy!
Real madrid fans has to speak in spanish ok? Estoy completamente de acuerdo con que el real debe cambiar toda la plantilla y sacar a ese monton de viejos que ya no sirven y dejarse de estar firmando la primera mi#$% q haya en el mercado(faubert por ej.),mirar mas a la cantera y tener mas vision a los jugadores(unos de los errores de juande fue no meter a huntelar para la champions,porq creia q no era suficiente con apenas algunos 30 minutos de juego,claro tenia que darle mas oportunidad)...gente con vision ganadora y sobre todo un entrenador que cree una quimica de equipo unica y lo mas rapido posible a una posible entrada de nuevos jugadores,porq de nada vale un monton de estrellas y no halla quimica,esto seria algunas de las cosas que deberia hacer el madrid si kieren volver a ser un equipo grande en Europa y evitar la miseria de siempre de caer humillado ante los equipos grandes,porq a la verdad que ya los equipos de champions tener que jugar con el madrid ya no mete miedo ya es como jugar con un everton,espanyol o cualkier otro equipo mi%^& por la falta de prestigio que se ah ganado.amen :p
Reply to Edgardo(puerto rico):
Real madrid fans has to speak in spanish ok? Estoy completamente de acuerdo con que el real debe cambiar toda la plantilla y sacar a ese monton de viejos que ya no sirven y dejarse de estar firmando la primera mi#$% q haya en el mercado(faubert por ej.),mirar mas a la cantera y tener mas vision a...
Muy bien, perro parra mi Huntelaar no es el delantero que nos va a llevar. No se mirrar que tiene esa pasion a ganar como los delanteros mejores como Benzema, Ruud, Eto'o, F.Torres y Higuan ellos tienen esa pasion parra dejar todo en la cancha perro Huntelaar no me convenze.
Reply to BIM-56:
Very good written Adam
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But I want to add some things:
1. I'm so happy that you chose Ribéry.
2. I don't want Lahm, I want Taye Taiwo, Marseille.He's a giant left back, very much similar to R.Carlos. Has the talent to be the world's best!
3. I want Lucio in the...
personally, I think Lahm is the best in the world so far. He can do both defense and attack perfectly. The key is that he grasp the timeing decently with his speed, tackle, pace, covering and great anticipation. But it' s great to see u mention that Nigeria Taye Taiwo, he is fast and a gd tackler. I personally don't look up on his long range shot that much since it will be some attachment, and not as important as defense. I dont know if he can be still as gd as he is now if he comes to play in a higher level league.
Simple, "Gago is not yet at the top rank!!" how simple is that, I don't care whether we should loan or sell him. ALl i no is that he is not as gd as the 2 diarra defensively, and he is nowhere near Xabi and Cesc's level as a creating CM. Someone mentioned Yoann Gourcuff. I admit that he will potentially become the next zizou and he has such a fantastic season In Bordeoux, but he can defend as well as the former too. moreoever, i didn't see anything impressive so far when he comes to play in big stage like CL and the worldcup qualiflying with France. I don't mean he is not world class. But French league is a lower level league and i don't know if this new zizou is mature enough to be the key of RM. I look up to him, he is a playmaker who is capatble playing in both flank which gives the coach flexibily to rotate. BUt i would expect more "immediate impact" with Ribery or some big names who are "already big enough" like Kaka and C.ROn. D. Silva is also one of my favorite.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Simple, "Gago is not yet at the top rank!!" how simple is that, I don't care whether we should loan or sell him. ALl i no is that he is not as gd as the 2 diarra defensively, and he is nowhere near Xabi and Cesc's level as a creating CM. Someone mentioned Yoann Gourcuff. I admit that he will...
i dont know if u have been watching france world cup qualifying matches but let tell u the only reason i follow france since zidane retired is to see gourcuff play!!! just like u said "he is a playmaker who is capatble playing in both flank which gives the coach flexibily to rotate"..this is exactly what i noticed in him...i see him more like xavi "a ball distributer with great technical skills" and one thing particular about him is that he dont give away the too easily "unlike gago, snijder and guti" that is where we r caught on counter...let me put it simple dutch player donot know how to play possession football"dominating the opponent" and that is what we r dying to see
I think the most important thing is what I read in some earlier posts: Madrid need to develop their players. Look at Barca, tons of homegrown players. Madrid need to reorient their philosophy away from trying to "sign" their problems away. Galacticos, hah, lame!
And as a fan of Barcelona, i HOPE HOPE HOPE Madrid fire Juande.
why did they sell robinho and keap robben. robinho had a great season. he got injured 1 time and played a couple of games bad, and that was it for him. they keap robben who is always injured and dont apear in big games.
Real madrid is suffering again the same way they did when they sell makelele. trying gravesen, the uruguay guy, emerson. finaly they got diara and lass. gago need to be loaned of benched.
and here we go again, who the hell is faubert, drente, vdv, the only who can stay is sneijder.
The reason why raul and rvn had a lots of goals was because of robinho serve them, he is way better than robben in that. he has skills, technique and is a teamplayer but the only thing he isnt strong. but you can let him work on that he is doing very good at city right now.
I will trying to bring in silva and villa because you can shut them down easily. ribery is as selfish as robben. and in midfield i will try to bring in xabi alonso because cesc is a litlle bit impossible. left back clichy, and center defender juan or bruno alves.
sell drenthe because he cant deal with pressure.
sell vdv because he cant deal with the roll he has on the team, in hamburg a king but in real a slave.
sell saviola because he has bad luck with the coaches.
sell rvn because his is getting old and have a injury.
sell salgado and heinze beacause they cant defend.
sell huntelaar because he cant play good footbal he can only score he is the same kind of player with benzema.
sell canavaro because he is getting old and he want to go to juve.
sell guti that guy is a problem maker when he is in good mood a good player but when he is not oeeeeeeiiiii.
for another winger they can try mancini from in inter he is a good winger though. and please try to buy diego from werder bremer that guy is awesome
I gotta say that having read everything and watched a lot of Bordeux's games Gourcuff is probably one of the best options for a playmaker. Milan don't seem to want him since he has been loaned out and Bordeux will never pay Milan's asking price of about 18 mil. He and Ribery can complement each other quite well. Also David Silva would be another great addition as well.
Reply to Caracoleo:
Reply to trooper:Reply to Caracoleo:A revolution is needed at Real Madrid. Juande has not earned his stripes. Out! Roberto Mancini - IN.
No more elections. Become a PLC now, like Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal...That would ensure that the best people capable would run the club, and thay would have a REAL stake in it,...i dont agree with most of ur outrageous claims because real madrid is not the property of anyone but it's loyal fans...besides i would better stick with juand then mancicni who is a complete joke>>>well does any one heard of laurent blanc!!!!
Belongs to its loyal fans? you've been swallowing too much propaganda. Every president that comes along promises to respect the wishes of the socios and ends up shafting them up the backside.
I don't see what is wrong if the club is owned by someone with a track record of being...
Great post...I might add that most second rate teams that do participate in the Uefa cup dont even play with their first teams if they are challenging for something better in their domestic league.
Hopefully that would change from next year (they are trying to make Uefa cup more worthwhile)
Anw yeap All that said from Adam are correct but not keeping Ramos.
And I am being objective by looking at his tactical knoweledge or may I say the lack of it !!!
I would add Ronaldo to this list.. If you need a person to change big games - Ronaldo is the person. at 23, he is the right investment.
Why does everybody wants to chastize Gago. I'm so suprised at that. Gabriel heinze is the reason why we have lost alot of our matches this season. He is the first to be sold.
Drenthe, Saviola, Javi Garcia must go. As for Van de Vaart, i think he still needs a season to prove his worth. Bring Kaka, Villa, Ribery and Christiano Ronaldo.
As for a left back, i prefer Phillip Lahm or Gael Cliche. Any other left back would do us more harm than good. Ezekiel Garay should partner Pepe in defence or better still lets buy Bruno Alves for that matter.
Juande must stay as well and Higuain should always be a starter. How many times does he need to prove himself. He's efforts have won us 2 league titles and yet we dont seem to acknowledge him.
We dont have any excuse if we dont win the 10th champions league title in front of our fans.
Hala Madrid.
Reply to musilini:
I completely agree with you. Real Madrid should get Per Mertesacker to partner Pepe at centre back.
i think we had gone for wilson palacios from tottemham
The grand Raul can still afford to play thouigh not the 90 minutes. So he can stay and help the others and give us some minutes on the field.
Pellegrini will certainly give us better organisation, more spectacles and above all great results.
New signings:Kaka, Ribery or C. Ronaldo, Alves ( Porto) or Maicon ( Inter Milan),
Xabi Alonso or Maquerano,Ibra or D. Silva, D. Villa or D. Forlan.
I bet 5 or 6 of the above will join REAL MADRID.
I am confident that REAL MADRID will ge the greatest by next year.
Hala Madrid!
r.madrid has gone sick man....
my mate used to support man u now ronaldo
is gone to madrid and kaka too. he now support madrid that how good there got....:]
Roben must be in Real Madrit because is very good player.
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I completely agree. We need stability, a 3 year plan. We have a foundation now and we have to avoid the pitfalls of spending money just because we have it. I disagree about Gago. He had a hard time in the classico but I saw that he played his heart out and always went back and defended. Again Defense is key and we need that when Capello came that was the first thing he sorted out. We have the talent. We have replacements for our attackers We have Raul's heir in Higuain. We have Ruud's heir in Huntelaar. All we need is a playmaker. At the beginning of the season I thought we may have had them with Sneijder, Van Der Vaart and De la Red. We will have to see this Summer but we have the elements of excellent squad we just need to piece them together.
Reply to helmet_09:
Gago has undeniably improved, but I still don't think that he can do so much better than this. A player in his role needs to have certain qualities. We need someone as good as Cesc, Xavi or Iniesta If we want to play some good football. Do you think that Gago is capable of assisting and creating chances like how those players I've just mentioned can? No, I don't think so.