Is Selling Huntelaar The Right Thing To Do?
Tuesday, 14 July 09, 10:20 AM · Comments (292)
This has been on my mind for a while now. I just keep thinking about it and it really worries me. I'm not a fan boy nor really gung-ho about Huntelaar, but he is a player that I think is one of the best on the market right now. He has unique characteristics such as his height and finishing skills, and these are what we are going to need. There are going to be tough games where clever-positioning and excellent finishing would snatch the three points. There also going to be times where we'd need to score no matter how and one of the ways to score is from set-pieces and headers and for that you need Huntelaar not Higuain or Benzema.
Looking at our frontline at the moment, you'd think that we have a lot of strikers. This is true, actually, the problem is caused by Perez' decision to bring both of Benzema and Negredo without selling Ruud or forcing Rau'l out of the team. I'm not saying that signing Benzema was a wrong call, it is actually a very good move, but what I'm saying is Perez had to clean up first. Since Rau'l is untouchable, and Higuain deserves to stay thanks to his hard work, Perez should have offloaded Ruud for a few reasons.
- He is coming off a nasty injury and God knows If he'll be as healthy as before.
- He is over 30 and there is no point in keeping him If we are thinking long-term.
- He only has one year left on his contract so this is the right time to sell and get some money.
He should have also loaned or sold Negredo because in all honesty neither Pellegrini nor the fans will let him have a shot with the first team. Just ask Saviola, Soldado, Owen....etc Real Madrid fans are demanding and so is everyone else in the club. If Negredo isn't ready in the sense of being capable of starting in the Champions Leagues or scoring in big games, then he won't certainly feature. I know he has developed quickly since he left the Castilla team, but is his development quite enough to ensure him a spot in a team with Cristiano Ronaldo, Rau'l, Benzema, Van Nistelrooy, Huntelaar and Higuain? I don't think so, If he was Adam Bader I'd say, hell yeah he'd start over all of those, but he aint Adam.
THE QUICK SOLUTION
Don't sell Huntelaar or Negredo, just offload Van Nistelrooy. If you think Van Nistelrooy needs to stay, then offload one of our midfielders to make up some room. Does anyone think that Drenthe, Javi Garcia, Gago, Parejo, Guti and Faubert deserve to stay? The only midfielders that deserve to stay, in my humble opinion, are Sneijder, Robben, Van der vaart, Lass and Diarra. And what the hell Salgado is still doing there? He is past it. He is a legend, but he is past it. And what about Heinze? I'd do better as a left-back though I don't know how to kick a ball properly.
IF PEREZ SELLS HUNTELAAR, THEN IT IS A BAD SIGN
I'm not jumping the gun here, but I think If Perez sells Huntelaar, then this will prove we still can't think strategically. For me, If that happened, it would be like a Makelele situation. I might be wrong about all of this, but I personally believe selling a world-class 25 year old and keeping a bunch of inadequate old chaps on the team is in not wise.
What is insane is keeping useless clowns on the team....... just watch this and you'll understand what I mean.
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i quite agree with you. Huntelaar is a pure finisher but if Real Madrid is going to keep 4 strikers then Huntelaar will be on the list. Why? Raul is the club's icon n he's going no where. Maybe he'll be on the bench in many games. Higuain has earned his stay while Benzema has come for a huge sum n is going no where at least not in the immediate future. Negredo will probably remain to fill in a spanish quota. I guess it's Huntelaar and nistelrooy that will be leaving.
Again this would be a big mistake. Huntelaar is one of the last big strikers in a world that is populated by the small secondary creative strikers like Benzema, Higuain, Tevez, Aguero, etc. It seems to tall target man strikers are comming through at any team. I agree Ruud should be the one to go and also Raul has to realize that this is a new era and for the good of Madrid he needs to step down. I really hope the deal falls through and Klass stays. Maybe he and either Higuain or Karim will become the next Morrientes and Raul. If we do sell him I hope Galliani and Milan swoop in and take him.
Real Madrid To Pay Ajax €7m If Klaas-Jan Huntelaar Is Sold: LINK
So Perez is going to sell Huntelaar for 18 million (20 if Stuttgart qualifies for CL). Madrid has to pay Ajax 7 million if this transfer does happen, so in the end they'll only get 11 or 13 million. How crazy is that? They paid double almost triple. Talk about bad investment.
Reply to Trunks:
Talk about unstrategic thinking.
I happened to read the translated version of marca.com and I was surprised to see that many of the Spanish readers commenting there were also horrified at the decision of selling Huntelaar. What's more, they were even more apalled at why oldies like Salgado, Guti and Raul were staying. Believe me guys the Spanish folks are as much fed up of Raul as some of us here. I don't know why then Perez can't axe him, even when Raul has criticized him for his Galactico policy in the past.
Someone there said Huntelaar was another 'victim' of Raul like Portillo and Saviola, and I agree with him. Raul just doesn't know when to quit for the team's sake.
I hope Klaas decides to stay and fight for his place like Sneijder.
Another thing: doesn't Ryan Babel play as substitute at Liverpool?? Then both he and Klaas have the same chances of featuring at the 2010 World Cup.
So what's the logic behind Klaas's chances of playing at World Cup diminishing becuz of him playing as a substitute??
Raul refuses to go quietly. Yes, the greasy haired one has spoken again, and is refusing to contemplate life on the bench. Nor does he see himself fading away gently into the background as the new generation take over. According to him, the onus is on the others to take his starting place away from him.
Old vinegar face said that Kaka and Cristiano were going to make him a better player and he is looking forward to competing against them for a place in the team.
Our Dear Leader also said that in football the past means nothing! That's a lesson a few Raulites around here need to learn.
Reply to themadridguy:
Huntelaar will play in the World Cup whether he stays or not. He is their best and most effective striker and everyone knows it. Now I think he wants to stay in Madrid and but is being put under pressure by the club. I hope he resist and refuse to go, though If Milan, Arsenal or Man UTD cam and he agreed, I wouldn't blame him. We don't treat our players well.
Reply to Caracoleo:
Heck, Ronaldo and Kaka can make me a legend. I agree that others has to take his spot by performing better, but the thing is, many have done it in the past. Higuain, Owen, and many others proved their more effective and yet Rau'l played. I think the only way he is going to lose his spot is through the coach. I hope Pellegrini is a man enough to bench him when he is playing like crap. Oh god, I wish I was the coach.......
Reply to Trunks:
I don't know why's there the obsession to sell Huntelaar, when we have to pay Ajax 7 million euros???
That means it won't help us much in raising money for new signings (11 million euros). 
It is totally outrageous.
Can't we just wait for another year?? Then RVN and Raul will be on their way out too, and Hunter will have a spot available for him.
Klaas's agent said something interesting about the 'sporting aspect' of Klaas's move to Stuttgart.
LINK
Reply to Adambader:
he he he, that was a good joke, when is Raul NOT playing crap??
Watch this good video of Huntelaar. It showcases his versatility as a striker. After watching it U get to know what we are losing here.
LINK
I think Huntelaar being sold makes sense. We already have striker options that have proven they can do the job better.
I'm going to sidestep the Raul thing as much as I can - it's all been said before. The facts and stats speak for themselves in goal terms.
Dunno why you all think VN is over the hill, he was the best outfield player we've had for the last 3 years. He's been injured and he only has 1 more season left on his contract - you aint gonna get shit for him anyway, so don't bother selling. Sure he's old, so bring him on at the end to score the winning goal when you need it. Seeling him means you have 1 million euro to show for him - what's the point?
Some of you guys are always complaining about how cantero players never get a chance - strikes me Negredo fits the bill perfectly. He has better ball skill than Hunter and has shown he can do the numbers too (at a crap team). He's young motivated by Real Madrid and cheap wages.
If Hunter had stayed, then Negredo would never get on the pitch you can be sure of it - even now he's gonna have to show something special.
Do you guys think Madrid can win the treble?
LINK
Let's face it - we're all hoping for a Higuain/Benzema front 2 aren't we?
Sure Raul and VN will play for a limited time, but those 2 our our future - not Hunterlaar.
Watch sucker Villa signing Real Madrid shirt:
LINK
Reply to themadridguy:
REALLY A VERY FUNNY VIDEO
Did Huntelaar score a goal with head last season? Anyways in my opinion it will be disappointing, but by no way is it comparable to the Makelele situation. If Huntelaar stays, it will really make life difficult for Pelligrini. After all we have Negredo back now. I've said we need to use one between Benzema and Negredo as the out and out striker, and one between Raul and Higuain as the support striker. Ruud would fit in the first category, and if Huntelaar stays then we have four players fighting for one spot which is ridiculous.
I am actually pleased he is being linked with Stuttgart, which is my favourite German team, and I think he will do well there and fill the void left by Mario Gomez.
So my answer is given that we have signed Benzema and recalled Negredo, selling Huntelaar is the right thing to do, both for the club and the player.
Reply to losblancos_dxb:
its good for the club but its not good for him'plus he scored two or three goals i think,one was cancelled because offside ruling against Sporting Gijon
Reply to losblancos_dxb:
I would be surprised if Real Madrid don't sell Negredo b4 the season begins: there are 3 scenarios in which he can be gone-
1) As bait for Xabi Alonso
2) In a deal for Santi Cazorla
3) Some EPL club makes a 20 million euro offer for him
I personally don't see him staying at Real Madrid especially with 'Raul' still here.
Reply to MadridistAli:
*with his head
Reply to EvoLtc:
i quite agree with you. i think its better for huntelaar to leave. The arrival of Benzema means that Huntelaar has to leave and besides i think Negredo can do as much as Huntelaar.
Definitely Sell:
Metzelder (give the youngsters albiol and garay time to prove themselves)
Negredo (will make lots of profit and one less striker in the running)
Drenthe (has potential but not the necessary mentality to overcome adversity)
Salgado (he has seen better years and Torres is a much better option)
Definitely Loan:
Javi Garcia (not really sure about him yet)
Dani Parejo (has talent but needs more time)
Maybe Sell:
Heinze (no replacement yet, but maybe include in swap deal for Arbeloa)
van Nistelrooy (Huntelaar is far younger, more versatile, and capable of replacing him)
M. Diarra (to make room for that defenseive mid and Lass has looked much better)
van der Vaart (deserves either more playing time or a transfer, maybe too similar to Sneijder)
I would not sell Huntelaar as he adds a different dimension to the attack. I like him and Ruud, but I think that we should first sell Ruud because he is older and Hunter deserves a chance. Raul is a very important figure whether you all like it or not and deserves more respect than you have given him. I wouldn't necessarily compare Huntelaar and Makelele, but selling him would be a huge mistake.
I think if there's one thing Perez has done wrong, it's being to political with his transfer policy. He seems to be looking to purge the club of the players acquired under previous administrations which is not only unnecessary but destructive.
Reply to Ruud van Nistelrooy:
LOL! Ruud u are actually saying u should be sold ahead of Klaas !
This Dutch guy should go to a club where he can play and enjoy the game each week! In my opinion this could be every club in Europe who wants a striker who has a goal average of 33 goals (includes full career club and international appearances)! Which is nearly every club except Real Madrid. Those stupid @#^**%
Reply to losblancos_dxb:
Yes, but it was ruled offside.
Reply to EvoLtc:
The point I'm trying to make is that Huntelaar is a different player. Higuain, Benzema and Negredo are very similar. Hunter is something else. He has skills the others don't, and the others have skills he doesn't have (dribbling, pace..etc).
We need to have a balanced team especially in the front. We don't need four similar players. If Ruud was 25, I'd definitely sell Huntelaar as he is his clone. They even can't play together.
Reply to Ruud van Nistelrooy:
loan out javi garca? mate drenthe has more potential then javi garcia i think we should loan out drenthe and parejo...and sell the rest
All this problem won't occur if all the old one goes.
You may be correct but Castilla players will always be favored.
Reply to EvoLtc:
Guys,
Why do we need Higuain and Benzema upfront??? They are both similar players. What is the point in having 2 similar players upfront. The 2 strikers need to complement each other. Huntelaar is a poacher, like VNR. Selling Huntelaar when he's been at the club for just 7 months is ridiculous. With creative midfielders like Ronaldo and Kaka, imagine how many chances he'll get. He's tall, has a strong aerial presence and is a clinical finisher. what is wrong with Perez. It makes neither footballing sense nor business sense.
Lets go through the squad and decide on the 25 for next season:
1 Casillas: Stay
2 Salgado: Sell
3 Pepe: Stay
4 Sergio Ramos: Stay
5 Gago: Stay
6 Lass: Stay
7 Raul: Stay (dont want him to, but lets be realistic)
8 Kaka: Stay
9 C Ronaldo: Stay
10 Wesley: Stay
11 Robben: Stay
12 Marcelo: Stay
13 Adan: Stay
14 Guti: Stay
15 Drenthe: Loan
16 Heinze: Kick him out
17 Parejo: Loan
18 Albiol: Stay
19 Hunter: Stay
20 Higuain: Stay
21 Metzelder: Sell
22 M Torres: Stay
23 Van der Vaart: Stay
24 Javi Garcia: Sell
25 Dudek: Stay
Benzema: Stay
Van Nistelrooy: Stay
Negredo: Stay
M Diarra: Stay
Garay: Stay
De la Red: Not in squad
That is 24 and all we need is a leftback and we are set to win the treble. I think it will be okay to have a lot of strikers because higauin and benzema can fill in for ronaldo, kaka, robben in the creative midfield positions and thus negredo, RVN, hunter and raul can sometimes play upfront. We will probably start like this:
----------Iker
Ramos, Pepe, Albiol, LB (cissoko,marcelo,clichy)
------Lass,--Wesley
Roanldo---Kaka---Higauin/Robben
-------Benzema
also if we bring in xabi alonso we can put adan as one of the 6 castilla players who can make up to 6 appearances
what do u guys think?
Reply to realmadrid_a10:
Dude, i like all the player to stay but economically, that would increase the amount of pay cheque. If we are going to rotate 5 players for 1 position, then IMO its a waste of money.
Reply to RMFantasy:
I do like Hunter to stay lets face it, we cant always get what we want.
Huntelaar should be kept, we just have it started to rebuild a new team with new style and structure. It's better for us to have strikers with different style in the squad. As everyone says, Huntelaar is the only target man we have in the sqaud(i don't count on 33 veteran RVN whom i think should be sold).
In the midfield, it's silly to sell M.Diarra if we are thinking big. We can't rely on only one ball winner on all the games we play. If Lass got injuried or suspented, some dude like Xabi or Gago CANNOT be able to fill up the gap cuz they ain't ball winner. Sometimes we even need to have two destroyer on the pitch. we shouldn't commited the same mistakes.
our attacks apparently seem to complete, but i can't look it as a perfection until we can bring in Xabi Alonso since i still think we lack of a "passer" on attack. If we must play Robben and CR9 at the same time, we better have a distributer who can spray the ball to the flank. Kaka could handle it but he has to drop back so deeply all the time. I rather have a creative holding midfielder to help him out and let kaka focus on attack. Maybe Wesley is capable on doing that, but he is still an uncertainty due to his unfamiliarity on playing in deeper area.
With CR9 and robben playing together, the squad will end up becoming 4-3-3 although it was initially set as 4-4-2. therefore, despite we have the best attackers in the lineup, we can still hardly maintain the possesion since the two wingers tend to directly penetrate by themselves.
However, it's depending on the coach, IMO, it's pointless to have bunch of superb players if they just do their own thing individually but not to have the game under control
Reply to Andrade:
hehehe....if raul plays whyn't ??
guys be realistic...whatever we say nothing going to work against raul. raul will stay,if we are really unlucky he will be starter of every match
, if we are lucky he will be sub. as right now we don't need negredo we should sell/loan him. in my opinion loan would be better option, so we can find out his improvement, and later if we can use him or sell him for better price.We must sell RVN.We should keep huntelaar so some different skills add up. but he was one of the last moment signing of cadleron..so perez wants to get rid of him. 
Reply to Ruud van Nistelrooy:
there's no money to be made from selling Ruud. Completly pointless to sell him unless you are trying to reduce the wages
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
As I keep trying to point out, you don't make any money from selling VN. There's simply no point in selling him. We aren't going to build a team around Huntelaar anyway
I think you're completely right. I have quite low expectation for next season. But naturally I tend to be a pessimist
By the way guys- interesting question:
What do poeple think about Benzema? Certainly the most interesting signing and signs of looking ahead in the long term.
personally I think this guy will be a bit of flop this season, but end up making good for us in the more medium to long term.
Any other opinions?
English media say Xabi Alonso will be a Real Madrid player next season...LINK
once again bro, u get to the point directly!! some of us are kind of over optimistic and forgot that we are REBUILDING THE TEAM with bunch of new comers. we can't do shit with all the superstars if we can't be blended together as a team. No matter how great our players are, they still need time to get used to the new enviroment with new teammates and a new coach. we are not just simply plugging them in since we don't have a steady system.
Reply to EvoLtc:
I hope he can stand the pressure when things aren't going so sweet.
I would also like to see the rest of the team protecting him in press conferences when things aren't going his way. You know the kind of thing; "We know he's a great player - we see it every day in training" etc.
Sadly, I don't think this will happen as Higuain never received that kind of support from the captains (the people who really count). He was left to flounder alone as he struggled to find his goal scoring form, and never received words of support in the press. I wanted to read something like Raul saying; "Higuain is a great player, and it is just a matter of time."
So I am expecting hard times ahead for Benzema, particularly with the fickle mob we call Real Madrid supporters. Remember - noone gets away with poor form, except Raul of course.
But if he stand the initial pressure, then surely he will become a great striker for Real Madrid.
Reply to Realfanatic:
Benzema and Higuain are NOT similar players. The only thing in common is that they can both run with the ball. End of story.
One more bit of news: Alberto Bueno has joined Valladolid. This was one of the best talents in the Castilla side who played for the first team a couple of times last season - and scored some good goals too.
Well, he's gone. Not good enough for us maybe.
Reply to EvoLtc:
Well by selling RVN, RM can save the money to pay for his wages.
Reply to Caracoleo:
Has he been sold or is it a loan move? I would be shattered if he is sold because he is my favourite player from the Castilla squad. Maybe they have the usual buy back clause.
Reply to Caracoleo:
Agreed. Benzema and Higuain would complement each other perfectly.
Reply to losblancos_dxb:
Madrid did not report that. But I suspect 'sold', as they seem to be trying to keep this news quiet. It would'nt surprise anyone if he was sold and not loaned.
Everything will be made clear in the next few days I imagine.
Reply to EvoLtc:
Agreed mate
i think he will be the least impressive out of all our signings (including Albiol).However I do see him winning the pitchichi award in two to four years 
As for the transfer itself I think he was just bought for the shirts...I would rather keep Negredo or Huntelaar who have equal or better quality...and use the money to buy a decent LB.
Michel has recently said that Negredo is actually BETTER than Benzema...I think it's that's too much...but I do think they're on the same level.As For Huntelaar I prefer him from Benzema.Correct me if I'm wrong...but didn't Benzema have a 10 match goaless streak with Lyon?And in the national team he wasn't that impressive...so I prefer Huntelaar.
Reply to Danniel:
As for the signings this is how good I predict they will play in the first year...
1)Ronaldo
2)Kaka
3)Albiol
4)Garay
5)Benzema
well, why would hesitate to play both higu and benze? even if they are really a type, why not? Man Utd had been playing like this for maybe 2 years, and its pretty much succesful, well, i worried about higu more. valdano said all the signing will be in starting XI, and the fact that raul hasn't stepped off too, so if raul keep playing, and benze play, where will higu play??
oh yeah, i also thought? does benze really a same type player like higu, or maybe tevez and rooney in the better level? i actually believe that he is maybe like fernando torres, an all-round player, who can do both running and positioning, but i guess i dont really know, haven't watched french ligue 1 and national team recently
Cronaldo and higuain always been together(like in partners or sth..)during the training... i watched some videos and seen some pictures when they trained...are they in love actually??
but who knows...maybe theyre just partners at that moment..
Reply to Caracoleo:
Here's another Castilla player about to leave...it seems we will never learn
(www.soccerway.com) Even though I never heard of this guy I don't imagine he's bad if a premier league team wants him.
Premier League newbies Burnley have handed a trial to Real Madrid's Fernando Guerrero, as manager Owen Coyle prepares to strengthen his squad ahead of the new season.
It had been known that the Ecuador international was undertaking a trial, although the identity of the club remained unknown.
However, it has now been confirmed that League's new boys Burnley are looking at the 19-year-old Real Madrid youngster.
Coyle has reportedly been tracking Guerrero after being impressed, while watching him in action for Real's reserve side Real Madrid Castilla.
Arsenal May Turn To Huntelaar Following Adebayor's Expected Sale To Manchester City: LINK
From what I've heard and read there is no way Huntelaar is staying in Mardid. He was allowed to join physical training sessions with Ronaldo and the rest but when the ball came in the field he had to leave. For this reason he himself decided not to go to Ireland. Treating your own players as the enemy. With friends like that who needs enemies?
Anyways Arsenal is by far my favorite English team, so if he has to go let it be Arsenal.
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
yeah every one saying oh madrid going to win everything.but they dont have a clue whats going to happen! i doubt madrid will win the treble...i dont even know if they gona win the champs league eather altho i think they might get pass the last 16 after ages!...alot of madrid depenz on who they sign next..if alonso then it might be bright for madrid
Reply to MadridIndo:
madrid must play higuain up front with benzema...i was watching real madrid tv and they had this guy on there who said "oh i think raul will defo play bcuz he needs to be on the pitch to organise it all"
wtf? thats all he can do just tell everybody else what to do fuck sake
Robben commenting on his future saying that he is staying and he is happy.. LINK
If anyone needs to be offloaded, it's Drenthe.
Reply to Caracoleo:
How do U rate Adam Szalai?? I think he is better than Bueno.
Reply to The new Visitor:
What are u trying to say man?? That they are gay??
This is the problem with today's times: U can't even be great pals with someone.
Reply to Trunks:
Is it becuz RVP plays there that Arsenal is ur fav team???
Reply to Danniel:
well, i once said it, just dismiss the castilla. we're just ruining their talent and their future. if their favourite team is madrid, just make a big announcement "those who want to join us should train themselves in other club until they reach the level or ballon d or and in the same time can bring us a lot of money i the same time!"
Reply to Weezy:
ha? organize? well then, why dont he become the assistant of pellegrini, it's much more useful, at least he will give some space to the youth, but if he still insist to be seen in the camera, just make him the cheerleader mascot, like fred the red of man utd, he like clapping anyway, i think he trained all the way to make a clapping that can raise the spirit, i guess..
Reply to Danniel:
I don't think you've ever watched Benzema. If Negredo is better, how come Man Utd were battling with us for Benzema not Negredo? What is it you don't like about Benzema?
His explosive pace?
His ability to shoot with both feet?
His ability to play one-tows in tight situations?
If it's his inexperience that worries you, w could have just waited a few years and then sign him when he is worth 90 million like CR9. That would make great business sense wouldn't it?
Daniel, you've been on a real downer on all Madrid's new signings! Be happy, man! We are stepping up in quality. Even your great hero Raul said that.
Reply to themadridguy:
Never seen Szalai play. Because he NEVER GETS IN THE FIRST TEAM!!!!
Hopefully I'll be able to watch him we joins Getafe, or Almeria or whatever.
Reply to Weezy:
Raul couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel.
He seems to think dropping back in midfield, collecting the ball from Gago, and passing it 2 metres to Lassana is organising a team.
Pathetic.
Reply to themadridguy:
I like the way this team is created, total focus on talent. Something the bigger teams can't afford, also doesn't win you prices. They need to buy a bit more experience though. Think their main focus this year is to keep the team together, good philosophy. These kids know how to play together, think they are a good outsider to win prices in Premier League. But seriously how can you not like them? The attractive football they play, just need to be a bit more consistent and probably in need of a bit more experience. And they have great players such as: Fàbregas, Clichy, Walcott, v. Persie, Arshavin and the list goes on.
Reply to Trunks:
I liked it when Man Utd and Ronaldo whipped their asses in the UCL !
That's why I hate them.
It was a very good feeling to see Wenger's face like shit. Like Rio Ferdinand said "It was MEN against BOYS", and the men taught the boys a lesson.
Arsenal is all about stealing young talent from every country out there.
Reply to Caracoleo:
hey man u are actually right about Raul there. He does do that kind of meaningless shit and we end up playing with only 1 striker.
Reply to Trunks:
And btw are U a RM or an Arsenal man?? Who wud u support if we squared off in the CL??
Reply to Trunks:
Don't they have enough attackers already?? Walcott, RVP, Nasri, Eduardo,Arshavin... What's the guarantee Klaas is gonna be in the starting XI there??
Reply to EvoLtc:
In fact we are not making enough money with Hunter either, since we have to pay 7 million euros fine to Ajax if we sell him.
And selling RVN would make sense since he is at the end of his career and was the 2nd or 3rd highest wage getter at RM before this season. So yeah, we can save money by selling RVN and we shouldn't sell Hunter.
Reply to themadridguy:
So why no word on Hunter yet?? He has stayed back in Madrid to sort out his future. Isn't 2 days enough to do that??
Reply to Caracoleo:
If he's all that tell me why his scoring record is so poor???
Reply to Caracoleo:
Negredo has proved himself in La Liga which is a tougher league than what they have in France.
Reply to themadridguy:
Fine? I was not aware of this.
Reply to themadridguy:
But Raul ends up scoring the all important goal. Sometimes its good to be invisible. Berbatov is doing it all the time.
Reply to losblancos_dxb:
he he he, I'm not a fan of Berbatov either.
Reply to themadridguy:
You seriously were cheering Manchester United over Arsenal? And about stealing talent that's not really true, Wenger creates players you and I like. They have attackers but they need another striker effective in the box striker, they got Bendtner but he sort of sucks. I'm still struck by the fact you cheered ManU though.
Reply to Trunks:
I was never a fan of Arsenal from the days of Bergkamp and co. I liked Chelsea and Leeds then. I was especially fond of Hasselbaink.
And why do u think it is strange to support Man Utd over Arsenal??
Which player has been created by Wenger- RVP,Nasri,Bergkamp,Arshavin,Adebayor??
Reply to Trunks:
I really hope Hunter goes to Stuttgart instead of those annoying fans at Arsenal.
What's wrong with Stuttgart?? They are a top German side and r playing in CL this year.
yeah this Huntelaar thing is going really slow at the moment .. is there any other player that is in discussion to be sold because as of right now Huntelaar is the only one that I know of
Reply to themadridguy:
By selling huntelaar and RVN we getting some money (12/14 million) plus we saving around 10 million for their wages.so not that bad. And one more fact is we can only register 25 players at the begining. so we need to keep alternatives for all positions.so shouldn't register 6 striker
Reply to melbournemadridista:
My option- sell RVN and Negredo to trim the strikers.
For 25 restriction- Sell Heinze,Javi Garcia,Salgado,Drenthe,VDV,Metzelder and Gago (one player i think they are not selling.)
Reply to melbournemadridista:
We would not get the same money for Huntelaar and RVN.. RVN only has 1 year on his contract left and he is 33 years old and we would maybe only get like 2-4 million for him if that .. selling Huntelaar we would get after we pay Ajax around 11-13 million.. and selling Negredo we would also get good money but its interesting to see what happens out of those 3 names it is likely that only 1 stays along with Raul,Higuain, and Benzema
Reply to themadridguy:
And I think this is a stupid rule in La Liga to allow max 25 players in the squad-makes no sense. Wtf their problem??
We keep as many players as we want.
Reply to losblancos_dxb:
I am not understanding how do you guys think negredo better than benzema.
negredo only scored 13 and 19 goals in last 2 season. on the other hand benzema scored 31 and 23 goals.
Where negredo(23 yrs) doesn't have any experience of CL. Benzema(21 yrs) has scored 10 goals for last 2 season for lyon.
And may be this fact doesn't make any sense but still benzema was nominated for Ballon d'or 2008. You can take it as a compliment to his career.
Reply to themadridguy:
la liga has lots of stupid rules like buy out clause as well....which i find very interesting as well
Reply to Madridista4:
actually i was saying the total amount we can get after sellin huntelaar and rvn. We won't get that much by selling negredo.
So what leftback are we going to sign it seems that maxwell has signed for barcelona from inter .. are we still after Arbeloa?
Reply to melbournemadridista:
Why wouldn't we?? Negredo is valued at 15-18 million Euros.
Reply to themadridguy:
i don't think we would get that much for him. don't believe on goals.com rumors
Reply to Caracoleo:
No no I did not say Negredo is better than Benzema...it was Michel who said so.I think Benzema is a good guy and I like him however I don't like signings which are not "needed".I don't like the fact that so much money was spent just so that now we will end up getting rid of Huntelaar and Negredo who are of the same level.
Can't you see that our youth talent is once again going down the drain??
As for the signings I liked Albiol's signing for example...because a defender was needed...but I can't understand selling good players...to buy players of the same quality with a much higher price just because Calderon bought them.
I can already imagine what will happen this year...Huntelaar scoring around 30goals for his new team and Benzema will barely score 20.As for Negredo if he stays he will probably score about two all season...one in each appearance.
Just in from ONDA CERO a respected Spanish radio.. we have offered Bayern 55 million euros for Ribery..
Reply to Madridista4:
Here is the link for my post above.. LINK
I been around Real Madrid long enough to say this is no where near Makelele's level. If Huntelaar leaves, well so be it. But it will not affect the team like Makelele's departure.
Why not loan out Huntelaar this season???
Then after Raul retires next season, we will get Huntelaar back!
Sell Negredo to an EPL team for 20M....
IF Lass leaves then i would say it could be like the Makelele aftermath... Sad we are not even considering la castilla. There are gems in la castilla, who knows we prob have the next Kaka,Raul, or Ronaldo.... But sadly they will never show their true potential since they get no shot at the first team, and they know it will be almost impossible to get a starting spot in the new galacticos....
Reply to Madridista4:
Perez should had used those 55m euro's for a world class left back instead of Ribery when we have Robben... Oh well here we go again....
Reply to Madridista09:
Those were the 55 million we had reserved for Ribery so he is using it.. and from the players we are going to sell thats the money we will use to buy Xabi Alonso and a left back
Personally, i'd rather see Huntellar loaned out to another team rather than sell him off. He still seems like such a great asset to have even though so many top players have been brought in.
I'd like to see him play in the EPL at a top team there if possible, but that's just my opinion.
According to Zerozero football we've signed a Roberto Canella Suárez from sporting Gijon; I'm not sure if he's a LB or CB?
LINK
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
that looks a crap site to me.
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
he is a left back that is interesting because it is just a profile but maybe we have got him .. also according to SABAH that just came out we got Xabi Alonso for 35 million LINK
Reply to themadridguy:
Well believe it or not this site was the first to show C.ronaldo and Kaka's signings even way before the official announcing.
Anyway is this guy good he seems young?
What about this report from SABAH saying that we got Xabi Alonso and also has some quotes but its difficult to understand when translated to english.. LINK
Well finally found a video of this Canella dude;
LINK
If he can chip shot like that... I'd say he has a creative left foot.
Negredo to be transferred to a EPL side in next 48 hrs. :
LINK
Reply to themadridguy:
Cadena ser is a good source I don't want to see him go but we are getting good money for him
According to wikipedia and zerozero football Roberto Canella is a Real Madrid player.. and wikipedia did the same thing before we even signed Raul Albiol they put him up as a Real Madrid player.. so Roberto Canella our left back here is the LINK
canella got in the sky sports spanish league 11 for last season!
Reply to Weezy:
so then he was the best left back in la liga and is only 21 years old .. welcome Roberto Canella.. Im sure if these informations are true we will get an confirmation in the next day or something
Reply to Madridista4:
It still says Canella's current club is Sporting Gijon. So there is nothing yet.
Reply to themadridguy:
read the middle where it says Cope Radio says Real Madrid are likely to acquire his services.. but earlier when i posted the link it said Real Madrid but they changed it again but it still says something in the middle
Reply to Madridista4:
yeah man...hes quite good actaully ...i think he can be great i would say hes much better then hienze...the boys quick on hes feet and a solid tackler and alos quite good going forward...alot of people didnt notice him becuz sporting were shit and there defence was a disgrace but he was still playing good
Can anyone tell me how Barca can get Maxwell from Inter for 4.5 mil euros??
Now is that a rip-off or what??
Ronaldo to address the press in Ireland today.
Reply to Madridista4:
how's his defending skills?? is he good at positioning and covering besides tackling.
Reply to Madridista4:
I've checked it and nothing about him on Wikipedia but they said according to COPE Radio he might join Real Madrid,plus is he really that good i didnt see him in the 4-0 win
Reply to themadridguy:
hehehe...we should try for him.....
but i doubt if we could get him less than 15 m
Shouldnt we go for a experienced Left Back?
After all he is just 21....
If he can turn out like Sergio Ramos, then great!
Why dont we loan Huntelaar for one season?
And then next season he can be in the first team after Raul retires....
Any news on trying to sign some young u-20 argentineans or brasilians?
We should go for douglas costa.
Reply to themadridguy:
If you want to buy a set of statistics - we already have Raul.
If you want a top class striker, Benzema is your man. Just judge him on his performances, not his past striking record.
Reply to Danniel:
you are more than happy to see Raul barely score 18 goals in the league. So why is it different if a young whipper snapper of a centre forward like Benzema cracks in 20 goals?
Do you think Huntelaar can get 30 goals a season for us?
I think Benzema IS needed. The all purpose forward. The guy who can everything!
Like you, I would like to see Huntelaar stay. But maybe his confidence has gone, or maybe they think he's one dimensional. I don't know.
Or maybe having 3 class forwards is simply too much competition for Raul! I wouldn't rule out this last possibility. We all know that Raul is the worst striker we have in the squad. Yet, he must play, as you know, it is simply inconceivable that Raul is relegated to the bench. So the pecking order is:
1) Raul
2) Benzema
3) Higuain
4) Ruud Van N
5) Huntelaar
6) Negredo
You can see that Huntelaar and Negredo simply won't get a game. Keeping them in this current line up is like ruining their careers. Especially with a World Cup coming up. Given these facts, it is clear that Florentino is doing the right thing by Huntelaar, and as we know is putting the welfare of the player ahead of the financial interests of the club.
Personally I would drop Raul to number 6, and move Huntelaar in to number 3. But I don't run the club.
Raul does.
Reply to Caracoleo:
Yes I think Klaas can get 30 goals for us if he is started in every game.
Sneijder may be on the way out:
LINK
Reply to themadridguy:
I think some of his performances last year, particularly at the end of the season, demonstrate that he can't get 30 goals. He is too reliant on good service - especially crosses. When the team plays badly Huntelaar disappears. Unlike Higuain or Benzema, who are capable of pulling a rabbit out of the hat.
Reply to themadridguy:
Looks like old news to me. A slow day on the transfer market for Goal.com maybe?
Pellegrini already said he was staying.
Reply to Caracoleo:
I understand perfectly what you're saying.The only reason i want Raul over Benzema is that Raul was for free...and Benzema was bought for a high price...but now that Benzema has been bought there is nothing to do but sel Huntelaar...my point was tha Benzema should not have been bought in the first place....this is wht I had in mind
1)Higuain
2)Huntelaar
3)Raul/RVN
4)Negredo
The 3rd and 4th spots are interchangable depending on perfomance....but that way we could have kept our talent and would have spent much less money.As for Raul if you have the impession that he's my hero he's not...I simply respect his efforts...my hero is S.Ramos
Reply to Caracoleo:
Yeah, I think Sneijder are Robben are staying now. I have a feeling Pellegrini liked them in training or something. I see a burst in confidence in the two in the training snaps too while all the other Dutchies, especially Drenthe and VDV.
Negredo is on the verge of joining Tottenham and we are getting about 18-20 million euros for him
Reply to Danniel:
Yes. But now we have a better attack!
I just hope people are patient with Benzema. I don't want them to do what they did to Drenthe.
Real Madrid should about scoring goals and we should always be looking to improve the forward line. But I recognise that other parts of the team should be a priority now.
Reply to Madridista4:
Why we selling BOTH Negredo & Klaas?? I think we need at least 3 world-class strikers in the squad,i.e. Benzema, Higuain and Hunter.
Raul doesn't count & RVN is just too old for this shit.
Reply to Caracoleo:
I will not be patient with Benzema, especially after we paid 35 mil euros for him and after all the praise u gave to him.
I want him to start scoring by the 2nd game.
Reply to themadridguy:
Then it seems you are no fan of quality..... players like raul, berbatov and benzema are pure quality........., berbatov has the potential to be the best forward in the world........!!!!
and do not forget when raul stays as the 2nd striker..., our midfield gets overrun.... like boys against men......... our midfield last year consisted of gago and lass... gago who was invisble in all the imp matches like against liverpool and barca...... we need better quality like alonso!!! and dont forget raul is more than a player... he is a leader... an inspiration and he is Mr. Real Madrid
Hey peeps what happened to the Ronaldo press conf???
Didn't he show up??
Reply to Shre:
blah blah blah ....Raul this.. Raul that.... enough already.
Reply to themadridguy:
Well it looks like RVN is staying and Negredo and Huntelaar are being sold.. RVN on the official jersey website got his #17 back from Parejo if that is any indication as well LINK
Reply to themadridguy:
Ronaldo did have his press conference the quotes are on the official website on the spanish side
e guys, which 1 do u guys think is the best source/web for RM's transfer rumours?? which one is the most trusting one...?
Reply to Madridista4:
it seems interesting that casillas away shirt is orange...doesnt it looking good 2 him?
I think it's good that we sold bueno so he could get time but it fortunately included a buy-back clause. I just can't understand why we would sell both negredo and hunter. I'm glad that negredo is being sold because he won't get enough time at madrid. We could also make a sizable profit off him, unlike huntelaar. Just selling Negredo, we only have 5 strikers, and two of them are set to retire in about a year. So where does that put us?
I also think Canella would be a good signing, but that we have enough midfielders.
Reply to themadridguy:
I really hope C Ronaldo is worth the 94M, because we fucked up the market with our transfers. All of a sudden teams are asking 2-3X of what players are worth bcuz RM were stupid enough to play this much for Ronaldo.
Anyways no news on trying to sign a defender? wow....
Inter signed Lucio.... Lucio could had been real good signing for real madrid.
Reply to themadridguy:
Damn u seem like a true Raul hater and a Ronaldo lover...
Reply to themadridguy:
i would say benzema is a good deal. benzema will be in his prime within 2/3 years. then we had to buy him for 70-80 million.so buying benzema actually perez did a good deal.
Reply to Mikel:
rumors are always rumors. until its official u can't trust on any rumors
Reply to themadridguy:
i think alonso will join us next week. then alonso will play alongside with lass.kaka upfront,robben on wing..ronaldo wing+2nd striker ..benzema 1st striker.....so we have higuain,raul,RVN....for sub/replacing benze. this should be enough.
Real Madrid Steps for Success:
1. Sell Negredo because he could fetch a hefty sum, it would reduce our striker surplus, and he would only sit on the bench anyway.
2. Keep Huntelaar, and use him in a three-man rotation with Benzema and Higuain, with Raul and possibly van Nistelrooy providing cover when needed, unless we only want four strikers, in which case we should sell van Nistelrooy.
3. Sign a good and preferably young Left Back, since Heinze, Marcelo, Garay, and Torres are not quite ideal candidates for various reasons. Canella and Kasmirski could be good signings.
4. Sell a few of the old players, such as van Nistelrooy, Heinze, and Salgado, and a few of the "black sheep", such as Drenthe and possibly Metzelder and M. Diarra.
5. Line up as such:
GK: Casillas
DEF: Ramos, Pepe, Albiol, Canella/Kasmirski
Subs: Garay, Torres, Marcelo, maybe Metzelder
MID: Lass, Ronaldo, Kaka, Robben
Subs: Sneijder, van der Vaart, Guti, Gago, possibly M. Diarra
OFF: 3-man rotation of Benzema, Huntelaar, and Higuain (until we find the optimal pairing)
Subs: Raul, maybe van Nistelrooy or Negredo
6. Give me a few of your spare million euros.
Reply to themadridguy:
I doubt raul will retire this year
,but RVN won't be with us for more than 1 yr. so even if we lose both of them we would have higuain . and you know perez....he is always there to buy some galactico 
did we sell Bueno for real?!
why Perez whyyyyyy!
the best is definitly marca.com
I say so because since perez took over they have announced each transfer at least one day before it went through..they have not talked about one player that was not actually our target..
defensacentral.com is not bad either, since it is a madrid-site..of course English websites are not as reliable as others, because they are not linked with the real madrid board! but when a liverpool newspaper writes about xabi, read it carefully!!! hala madrid!
Reply to MadridistAli:
and where did he go?
I hope Benzema doesn't flop, especially if we use him in a 1-striker setup, which I don't think I would like. I'm just not comfortable putting someone who is in my opinion less proven than Hunter as our only striker. I know we have Kaka and CR9, but I still thik we need tradition #9 aka a target man. Huntelaar can do exactly that. Sometimes our opponents are going to be more physical than we would like, and that's when we are going to need players like Pepe, Diarra, and Huntelaar to win.
Reply to Madridista09:
how come lucio ,maxwell being transferred, and we are doing nothing. we still need a left back....i think again nobody cares about defense
as we miss pepe on first 4 match...and if there is no new left back...i can clearly see we can concede 2/3 goals against deportiva on our 1st match.
Transfer Update: Negredo is on the verge of joining Tottenham - according to Cadena Ser...
Hamburg want VDV back and are offering 10 million- according to Defensa Central ...
Huntelaar still deciding on Stuttgart move and has until Saturday to decide where to play- according to AS
Reply to melbournemadridista:
Perez is too busy trying to sign players that will sell tons of shirts!
I mean Inter signed Lucio for 5M euros!!!!
And Barca signed Maxwell for around 4M euros!!
Wow... Defense wins championships, Offense sells tickets. Yet again, this is Perez...We should know his way of thinking by now.
Reply to Madridista09:
Florentino has made it clear; we must sell before we buy ANY new players. We have a squad of 36 for God's sakes!
What I can't understand is how come the likes of Heinze, Metzelder, Negredo etc are allowed to go to Ireland when everyone knows they are not wanted.
Keeping them training back in Madrid would have made it clear to them that they must leave - and we could clear our decks more quickly.
Reply to themadridguy:
Wow. Spoken like a true Madridista! You would fit right in at the Bernabeu, Daniel!
Did you know that Zidane was booed by the Bernabeu in his first few matches? It's true. How crazy is that?
Did you know that Redondo used to get a lot of stick from the Bernabeu? A lot of people doubted he had the quality to play for Madrid, and preferred Luis Milla (?!?) to Redondo!
Just remember that when you start booing Benzema when he misses an easy chance.
Reply to Caracoleo:
Anyway I did know everything that you said and I have said so many times that we should have patience with our players...(Gago is a perfect example) Now that bezema has been bought...he should be kept for a very long time sice he has an extemely bright future...even if he scores ver few goals.
And the last thing...I will never boo a R.Madrid player...not even C.Ronaldo (who is my least favourite player in the whole world XD)
Did we really sell Beuno????????
Reply to Caracoleo:
Then why is Perez going after Ribery when he knows he needs to strengthen the defense?! Ribery is slightly better then Robben. Robben is a world class winger.
Do you know how many players from Castilla went to Ireland or will participate in the pre season tours?
What bothers me is we sell Bueno without giving him a fair chance in the first team.....
Reply to Madridista09:
Pay*
Reply to Caracoleo:
harsh - i think you replies to the wrong person on that one.
Reply to Caracoleo:
I'm with Caracoleo on this one - Benzema is definitely an investment far beyond the capabilities of Huntelaar - which are limited IMO.
Reply to EvoLtc:
Also Benzema is liekly to bench Raul, whereas Huntelaar never would ahve done.
I'm more upset to lose Negredo
Pellegrini today tried a lineup using Ronaldo as a right winger and Raul and Benzema up top for the friendly on Monday
Negredo has agreed a four year deal with Tottenham and should complete a medical this weekend.. also we have inserted a buy back option for next summer which is good for when RVN leaves we have a nice replacement but here is the link.. LINK
Reply to Madridista4:
Why dont we just loan him out? along with huntelaar?
Unless the buy back option is less then the fee...
Reply to Madridista4:
So im guessing Pelligrini will play in a 4-4-2 not the 4-2-3-1....
Reply to Madridista4:
WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for crying out loud! not even in a experiment Raul is benched! I want a Benzema/Higuain frontline...heck a benzema/huntelaar frontline is more deadly than a benzema/raul attack. I hope this line up of midfielders and/wingers/attck hog the ball and never pass it to Raul....Robben better be starting so this can happen!
Look at it this way...Barca is trying to sell ETO'O...the man who is a goal scoring machine, he won them the CL this season and has played his shit out for years and won many titles for them, yet still this old sack-o-cellulite is running ball day in day out for madrid. WHY!!!!!!!!!! is there anyone with gigantic balls to coach this team!!!!????!!!!!!
According to AS this is the team that will play Monday vs Shamrock Rovers.. this is obviously giving a lot of players chance to prove themselves that wont get much playing time during the season or are just fighting to stay at Real Madrid.. LINK
LINK WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT
Oh shit Ibra to Barcelona!
Jaja suckers overpaid by miles
LINK
Reply to Madridista09:
perez needs money. thats why he is selling negredo. and until its an extreme case like : benzema or higuain got injured(long term like rvn), or raul is retired by next summer or negredo is playing superb in next season , only than perez will use buy back option.
Reply to realfreak:
this is just a pre season match. we don't have alonso yet, so pellegrini using ronaldo as midfielder(right wing) not as wing-2nd striker. as it is 1st match for us, it doesn't look good if we don't play our captain on stating XI
. 
and i think at least first few matches raul will be on starting XI as a leader.....maybe later on he would be used as sub
Reply to Danniel:
funny guys
Reply to melbournemadridista:
I agree Raul will start but later on other guys will get more minutes and will start
Reply to realfreak:
Why indeed? Some people here think that Raul has no influence on the manager. I've always said that is naive. When will you guys get it?
Raul runs this team.
This time the sacrificed player is Higuain - our best attacker last year. Played fewer minutes than Raul, got subbed more than Raul yet scored MORE goals than Raul.
We have to sacrifice our best players just so Raul can play. Just so Raul can break another record. Just so Raul can try to get back in the national team.
We have become slaves to Raul Madrid. Raul's personal objectives take precedence over the team's objectives. The team has become a vehicle for furthering the myth of Raul's greatness, his loyalty, his dedication, his perseverance.
I've got 3 words for Raul:
GO TO HELL
By the way, just wanted to point out that Saviola scored 2 EXCELLENT goals yesterday against Bilbao.
I'd like to personally thank Raul for wasting another valuable player.
wow soo many comments.
i think huntelaar should be sold.
hes not gonna play wen theres only 2 positions for striker.
one will def. be taken by raul.
like it or not, he is the captain, the leader, and much more then a player.
he can also score important goals,
yes sometimes he does nothing, but raul is much more then just a player.
higuain is better then huntelaar, and deserves a spot next to raul.
benzema was just bought, i think he'll either be a sub, or be the one next to raul.
hence, huntelaar being sold.
as for drenthe, i love him.
he has so much potential, and wen we were doing terrible, he was our best player.
remember he won that penalty against atletico??
he just needs to play more.
loan him out.
as for talking abt drenthe and other midfielders...
it doesnt matter towards huntelaars situation.
there are only 2 striker positions on the field.
raul, higuain, benzema are the top 3 strikers we have.
huntelaar is not needed, and hence will be sold.
Reply to RMCF_7:
In your world Raul might be better than Huntelaar - but I really don't understand how you justify including a museum piece in the starting line up over Huntelaar.
In your own words "Raul sometimes does nothing."
So actually, we are not playing with 2 strikers - only 1: Benzema.
"Raul is much more than a player." What else does Raul do to justify being in this team?
He belongs in a museum.
Raul messed up previous seasons, he was great the previous millennium.
Also how much do you care about the team and the club if you egocentrically keep on playing know you aren't as good as the others. Some people keep forgetting about is RvN by the way, he was still on top of his game before his injury, which was only a year ago. The striker with the most comparative features is Huntelaar, but it's very likely he will be sold. I know RvN is old but I still think he can do a lot of damage, way more then Raul. Also Ronaldo and RvN used to play together, I wonder how they click now, the 2 weren't too close in ManU from what I heard (might be rumors though plus it's long ago). It's certain Negredo will leave, Huntelaar will leave. Which leaves 2 great young people Higuain & Benzema. RvN should be sub.
Another thing I noticed from an article someone just posted here, that Sneijder was missing on training. I thought a post from 2 days ago about Sneijder being open for Inter talks were speculation, however him not showing up on training puts things in a different perspective. I really don't want him to go to Inter!
Sneijder has just picked up a little 'injury'.
Michel Platini: Real Madrid Have Wrecked Transfer Market; New Rules In 2012: LINK
We all figured this would be happening. I also hope they will implement the 6+5 rule one day, we'll have more competition in La Liga and Europe again. Greatest teams will still win the most but more chance for outsiders that way, which will make it more fun to watch. As it looks now La Liga will just be about 2 teams. CL will be about 4 English teams and 2 Spanish teams, with luck an Italian and a German team.
I also would like to see 6+5. It is premiership that is dead set against it.
Real Madrid wouldn't fare so badly with their robust youth set up. They produce decent players on a regular basis, they just haven't produced any great players for a while.
As for Platini - what team elevated him to greatness? Juventus. Hardly a French team, really. And he became one of the richest players in the world playing for the richest team at the time.
But I do have some sympathy for the things he says.
yea,,im startin to get a little nervous here....
any updates on alonso??
Reply to realfreak:
*reply 2 this...
Reply to Caracoleo:
The 6+5 rule is ideal for football, more competition will be created and talent will have more chance to develop properly by playing actively for a team instead of rotting on the bench.
Spain and England is filled with wasted talent, players that would start in the starting 11 of any German, French, Portuguese or Dutch team. All the silly politics in the sport aside, we want more competition, better competition and this is the best way to do it.
As for the transfer market, NO MOVEMENT. Haven't heard anything lately apart from that Negredo might leave. All the talk about getting Ribery/Alonso, no talk about a left back and no signs of whom might leave. At least 3 Dutchies need to be offloaded, also Heinze/Metzelder the list goes on. And still no talk about a left back. This is starting to get annoying. GET A LEFT BACK PEREZ!
Huntelaar will announce on Monday wheter he has accepted offer of Stuttgart
according to the mirror Real Madrid are nearing the Alonso deal for 32 million euros... and as usual rafa is planning 2 use the money 2 buy D. Silva..
Now, I don't want to be that guy, but I know the real reason C. Ronaldo joined our club.
LINK#1082083
copy & paste
We are fucked if the 6+5 rule goes through.....We cant compare our youth ranks to Arsenal's or Farsa's...
Reply to Madridista09:
How can you say that when ours has never been given a chance? Whenever we've trusted our youth, we've prevailed. Be it the Butragueno etc era or the more recent batch of Casillas, Raul, Guti, Seedorf etc. I actually think we'd do well with the 6+5 rule. If i'm not wrong, if we play Casillas, Ramos, Albiol and sadly Raul, we're playing 4 Spaniards already so it shouldn't be a problem.
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
this rule is against European law, so it will never come true..uefa and fifa have been trying on this one for a long time, but it has simply no ground on law..you can not make it easier for a Spaniard to play in madrid than for any other European citizen...in madrid simply the best players of the world should play! hala madrid
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
We played Casillas,Guti,Raul. That was a time ago. How about today???
We would still need 2 more right? Xabi Alonso could be the fifth. Maybe David Silva in the future 6. But Raul will retire which will bring it back to 5.
Unless Real Madrid sign Arbeloa for left back.
LINK
OMG check that team out!!!
Forlan over Raul? What the fuck man. So they're saying Forlan is better then Raul?
Messi over Figo? What da hell. Figo has done way more then Messi....
Reply to Madridista09:
I don't understand how u can pick ramos over salgado! michel has won two cl. trophies, and he was from 2000-2004 the best right back in the world!
Reply to Caracoleo:
How the fuck can you say Raul go to hell, are you ok or what? How many times has Raul saved Madrid in matches huh? How long have you been supporting Madrid? Hmm... Ok Raul go to hell with all the trophies he has won with Madrid and all those 300+ goals jajaja what da fuck man....
Reply to Trunks:
i don't think new rules which was stated over there won't effect real madrid or barca. because they run by their own wealth , they are not depended on their president wealth like epl teams.
Reply to Madridista09:
Forlan is way better than Raul - since 2000. Not before.
Reply to Madridista09:
Of course, Raul won those Champions Leagues all by himself - right? For God's sakes...
New line up Pellegrini is experimenting with:
Benzema---------Higuian----------Cristiano
Guess what?
No Raul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pleeeeeeeeeaaaase let it be true... Come on Pellegrini, you CAN DO IT!
No Rauuuuuullll!!!!!!!!!
God exists!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply to Madridista09:
yeah but messi is actaully better...u gota be honest there... dont know about raul forlan been scoring hes ass off in the past like for 3 4 years but i would have put raul in
Reply to Caracoleo:
hes just trying it ...it still aint that hes gona actautlyy start with it hopefully he does thoo fingers crosed
Reply to Weezy:
although i am the BIGGEST fan of Figo, I still accpet that Messi is actually better in individual level.
6+5 rule? What's next, a salary cap?
To Caracoleo and Trunks:
You have shown utmost disrespect to the legend Raul. He has contributed so much and is so important to Madrid, and yet you all, who have given absolutely nothing to Real Madrid, have the audacity to say things such as Fuck Raul, Go to hell, and You belong in a museum? To say you hope he takes on a secondary role is one thing, but this is absolutely traitorous! You are the fucking disgraces to Real Madrid, not Raul! You are no Real Madrid fans. Go kill yourselves!
Barcelona is also struggling to sign Villa. It seems like this best striker in Euro will possibly stay in Valencia. That would be a good news for us.
Reply to Ruud van Nistelrooy:
Omg RVN has spoken....
How bout you put a sock in it?
Raul has ruined Madrid for the past 4 years, he should retire; end of story.
Javi Garcia on the way out.. LINK
Reply to Madridista4:
Javi Garcia is very close to a loan move to Benfica and it could be made official in the next few hours.. the link is above
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
yeah barca just wana copy madrid sign a star ibrhimovic is a big game flop! hopefully etoo scoress millions for inter and barca regret this!
Reply to Caracoleo:
No really? I never knew that... WTF
Reply to Caracoleo:
Are you high or what? Not even a ignorant person would say that.....
Reply to Madridista09:
Not even a Barcelona die hard fan would say Forlan is better then Raul. If you think Forlan is better then Raul. Then Javier Saviola is better then Di Stefano...
Reply to Ruud van Nistelrooy:
Agree mate. WHat do this "madridistas" know anyways? I bet they been supporting madrid ever since last summers Ronaldo rumours....
Reply to Weezy:
I would rather put Eto'o or Villa instead of Forlan.... BTW Xavi as the DM? Really...
No man Figo has been better then Messi this decade. People love Messi a lot... He is great. But better then Figo this decade? BS. Figo has done way more. I know some Barcelona fans that agreed that Figo has been better then Messi.
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
How Figo and Raul were left out is beyond me. This is the team of the DECADE. Messi doesn't deserve a spot for 2 great seasons.
Reply to Madridista09:
of course if u talk about the "decade", Figo and Raul deserves more credit than those young pales in this generation. in 00/01, we 'd almost become the first team to be able to win CL in 2 consecutive years. unfortunately, we were taken down by bayern's sissy defensive football(with our weak defense). But the "Figo+Raul" pair created the anxiety for everything single team in CL and Spain at that season. Figo also had 3 successful seasons with Inter later on while Messi had only risen up for 2 seasons; Raul had great performances UNTIL 2004, until he played shit later on, he was still a GREATER one than Forlan if we talk about the decade. It's fair if someone said Eto or Villa is greater than Raul, but def. not forlan.
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
*the first team to be able to win CL twice in a row IN RECENT YEARS.
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Agreed mate...and what's even better is that absolutely stupid deal regarding Ibra-Eto'o,Hleb + 40m deal which seems about to take place. If Barca would have Ibra,messi and Henry as their attackers next year...I doubt they will score many goals as there will be no-one to finish off the moves.(Ibra misses some BIG BIG chances) I think neither Ibra nor Henry will reach the 20 goal mark next year..and the only way for Barca to have sucsess upfront will be if Messi scores many goals.Also, with 40m you can buy some of the best attackers in the world...so I think Barca made a VERY bad move there.
Reply to Ruud van Nistelrooy:
Hey asswipe, just because I hate Raul doesn't mean I hate Real Madrid.
Real Madrid has ALWAYS been my team - and will always will be.
But Raul is killing us. And I put the team above ANY individual. If Raul pisses on us - I piss over him. The only player that's ever annoyed me this much.
You happy playing with a lame geriatric up front? Then in my book YOU are the traitor. YOU are happy to damage our chances of success just so we can play your little hero up front week after week. YOU are happy to blame everyone else for failure except that putrifying corpse you seem to worship.
You need a sharp dose of reality.
Stop worshipping at Raul's feet and see him for what he truly is; a blood sucking leech that is preventing the real talent from coming through.
Reply to Madridista09:
I have been supporting Real Madrid since before you were in your mum's tummy mate.
Don't make assumptions about people you don't even know.
Reply to Madridista09:
No. Raul has been mediocre since 2000. Any objective viewer would say the same. He's never really had a GOOD season since 2002. Good matches - yes. But not consistently good seasons.
Forlan has been top scorer TWICE - dummy.
That has to count for something.
Personally, Forlan wouldn't quite make it into my starting 11, maybe a sub?
The latest on Alonso:
Alonso for Sneijder? Everyone happy with that?
It's not like Sneijder had a good season - and Alonso seems to be on everyone's wish list here...
That's the latest proposal anyway.
Reply to Ruud van Nistelrooy:
Seriously Ruud, chill down. And read what i have said before you make horrific insolent retarded accusations. At the moment you give RvN a bad name, he's actually a really nice guy that has shown Madrid and us fans all the respect.
I don't hate Raul but i think he needs to take a step down, if you don't agree with that, fine. I placed that in the context of a joke, something like last time he played good was the previous millennium. I said none of the things you accuse me off. Read before you go off at people. Before i thought you were a funny guy, but now you've shown some psycho features, not very pleasant. And even if I did say such things, that doesn't mean you have to wish a person ....! Man what is wrong here... BAD VIBES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just want to talk about football.
Reply to Caracoleo:
How are you saying that Raul has been mediocre since 2000...and never had a good seaason since 2002?I find that contrasting.I think Raul should be in the first 11 for a simple reason...practically nobody has been as consistant during the last decade as much as he was.What I mean is Forlan was top scorer twice...however he did not score goals consistantly throughout the decade like Raul did...(I know it's not Forlan's fault...but he still didn't).
Reply to Daniel:
Can't agree. Forlan has been consistently good, and sometimes VERY GOOD (twice top scorer).
Raul hasn't had a consistently good season for... ages.
In fact he has been in a steady DECLINE since 2002. He has had some good matches, true. But they have become FEWER and FEWER since 2002.
The same cannot be said of Forlan. He's had one or 2 off seasons, but has always bounced back.
I think Villa should be there. He's been excellent for the last 6 years.
Ronaldo + Villa? Good partnership?
How many good games did Raul play last year?
Sevilla was the highlight, definitely. I thought he was GOOD in the Nou Camp, actually.
Maybe you could count the away match at Valencia?
It's very hard to count the number of very good matches Raul played because they are few and far between.
I'm just trying to be objective here.
>LINK
if the 6+5 rule will exist and if we will not buy a spanish left midfield,, dat means... nothing else but put raul in the 1st XI....
Ronaldo------Raul-------Benzema
will the match on monday be live on realmadrid.com??
Transfer Update: Javi Garcia will join Benfica and will be made official in the next few hours... Huntelaar will speak on Monday about whether he is leaving for Stuttgart or not.. Marseille is interested in Heinze.. Xabi Alonso will become a Real Madrid player next week according to numerous reports.. and Negredo still appears on his way to Tottenham
Reply to Caracoleo:
I totally back you up on the Rau'l thing, though I wound't force him to retire or just kick him out. I'd just bench him as simple as that. As I said before, he has to be treated as anyone else. If he is performing like Rau'l the one we know then he plays. If he continues performing like he has been in recent years, then someone else has to take the spot. Football is a collective game and If 1 player out of the 11 is under-performing the team suffers.
Another point is we have other options. If we only had Raul I wouldn't mind seeing him play in every game because he'd be the only striker we have, but we do have other 4 or 5 strikers who are world-class.
Forlan is a good player and has been consistent. I think If we compare the two when BOTH of them were at their best, I'd say Rau'l is better. But I agree, in recent years, Forlan has been very good.
Reply to Caracoleo:
Alonso for Sneijder? That sounds good ONLY IF they gave us cash. I'd say something like 15m euros. Yes, I'm not crazy. Sneijder is world class and worth millions. He is also young and has potential. Alonso is grown up and excellent but when it comes to transfers, Sneijder has more value.
Reply to Madridista4:
If we sell both of Negredo and Huntelaar, who we got left then? An under-performing Raul, still injured Ruud, Benzema and Higuain? That doesn't make sense to me.
Reply to Danniel:
yeah man, they are too stupid to insist the eto-Ibra deal, even though i don't like Eto since he always talks shit about RM, but he is one of the most productive strikers in the world. they shouldn't have let him go for Ibra.
real madrid should pay marsellee to take heinze
lol...
where to watch real vs shamrock? i can't wait!
Trunks, sorry I confused you with one of the other billion people that post here. I also agree that Raul must take a more secondary role, a few people's comments have just been way out of line. And concerning the few psychotic things I said, let it be understood that is serious less than 25% of the time. That said, I do take Caracoleo's comments seriously.
Caracoleo, you are an absolute fool. You have done nothing to prove why Raul is ruining this team, just called him names. Do you really want Saviola or any of the strikers that Raul has "kicked out" over the years. Raul kicked them out because he is both better on the pitch and more important off the pitch. Raul is our hero because he performs when it counts, we can always depend on him. Has Forlan scored 180+ goals since the turn of the decade? No, plus he was in South America for his first two seasons, and then went to Man U and surely proved himself there for three poor seasons. Since then, he has played for Villareal and Atletico Madrid, whereas Raul has played for just Real Madrid.
Reply to Ruud van Nistelrooy:
Raul didn't kick anyone out. He was one of the reasons they didn't get chances. What myself, Caracelo and a few other fans are saying is that Raul limits our chances, tactics and options. When we play with Raul, we sometimes need to adjust the lineup according to him because we have to do that. That's totally fine but he in turn should perform well. If we take Raul off and lets say send in Benzema or Ronaldo, adjust our tactics according to either one and they perform well, what is more profitable? What works in this case? Unfortunately, Rau'l isn't consistent and not just him but the whole team but he is "one" of the obstacles that are keeping us away from glory.
Reply to Adambader:
But Raul played pretty good last year,unlike Sneijder,Heinze and others,how can you all call him an "obstacle" while he performed almost perfect last season
Exactly, how was Raul an obstacle last year, or the year before?
I agree we should probably give the new guys a chance, but I am a little skeptical of Benzema and think that he should prove himself before he starts before Raul, Higuain, or Huntelaar. To say that Raul must be given less time is one thing, but it is another thing altogether to insult his great achievements and past contributions to the club. You can say that he should retire soon, but why insult what he has done in the past when he has been Real's most important player of the last fifteen years? I agree with you who say give him a secondary role, but not those who so blindly insult the legend Raul.
Reply to MadridistAli:
Raul had a few good games. Personally speaking, I think the best season Rau'l has had in the last three or four years has to be the 2006-2007 season.
Reply to Ruud van Nistelrooy:
When fans insult him on a blog or in a conversation offline, they don't really mean it (most of the times). For example, when I say in one of my blog posts that Raul is crap nowadays, I don't mean he is not a good player, a legend or anything of that sorts. We are describing his performances, which are quite frankly and objectively nothing but crap.
Benzema has already proved his worth and that's why we bought him. He isn't a Castilla player who still needs to showcase his talent. He has had Man UTD, Barcelona and other teams kiss his ass for his signature. And now you are basically saying he should prove his worth, who can he do that when he isn't given chances?
Reply to MadridistAli:
i hate to bring this up but i totally doubt ur football knowledge when u said the "PERFECT PERFORMANCE" of Raul last season. No offense, but this is a joke mate!! he scored 18 goals, but have u counted his totally playing time?? He almost played every single game even when he was playing shit. perfect??? his poor first touch, his slowness on moving?? his failure to keep the pace with others on counterattack?? his hesitation on passing?? These signs are pretty obviously mirroring how PERFECT mr. captain has been performing. How did u know Saviola couldn't score the same amount of goals when he wasn't even given any chance??? this is why we look no.7 as the obstacle. He deserves the honor as a legend but you gotta accept that he can't kick back to the his peak anymore. His time is pass. He is occupying the spot even though he played below average. Before u say sth like "perfect performance", go count how many turnovers Raul made and led us dispossessed last season. 18 goals??? we could have done better than that if we didn't play him who contributes to a big part of our "dispossession football". if he is a target box striker with size like RVN, i would say he still can play as a starter, but according to his playing style, losing speed reveals it's the time for him to step away from the starting XI. He didn't play CONSTANTLY good last season, but just TEMPORARILY!! he disappeared on the pitch CONSTANTLY.
Reply to Adambader:
totally agreed man. a legend deserves the respect ONLY WHEN he is willing to sacrifice to his team. As a real madrid fan, we should look up to the team as the priority, not any particular player. If Raul wants to see real madrid success, he gotta sacrifice his playing time. what it looks like is that he just occupies a spot for breaking some meaningless personal record rather than real madrid. I don't doubt his love on real madrid but he gotta show us, the fan, that he is willing to sacrifice his playing time for real madrid' success. He gotta act like a legend if he wants to be the real legend.
Reply to Adambader:
AS reports that once again BENZEMA was the best player during training..in 3:3 and 4:4 ben strikes with ease
and I want to say that raul is not very good, nor is he very bad! he usually scores when he gets a chance, but he definitly has lost the ability to play furhter down in miedfield! I think he has developed into a box striker..he would definitly profit of kaka and ronaldo, but I don't think he will be a starter in important matches, nor should he be! but he's very, very important for real madrid and I think also for madridistas around the world!
Adam Bader:
He scored over twenty goals last two seasons, and whatever way you look at that, that is not at all crappy. Also, I was not objecting to people's opinions of his form. I was objecting to the people who neglect his past contributions, which some people were doing. And for the last time, I agree with you that he must sacrifice some time, but why must the others insult what he has done in the past?
Trunks: Sorry to break it to you but it is more important that the players get respect than the shit-stirring fans, after all they are the ones who are contributing to the team.
Reply to Ruud van Nistelrooy:
Living in the past. How is life in the 20th Century? Economy booming? Flares still in fashion in your world?
Raul has limited the chances of others. Fact.
Saviola played around 20 minutes in total last season. How crazy is that?
Do you really think Raul is THAT much better than Saviola? Is he better than Saviola at all?
"More important off the pitch." What does this mean? Exactly?
This is crap. All that matters is the 90 minutes ON the pitch.
If he wants to become an ambassador for Madrid, fine. Just STAY OFF the pitch.
You might say I'm a fool. But I know better than to kiss any player's ass. Every one of them has a massive ego, and they get carried away with the fame. Raul is no different. Except he has become a RUBBISH player.
It is people like you, calling him a legend, that contribute to the decline of Real Madrid - because Raul will never get the message that he really needs to hear:
RETIRE PLEASE IN THE NAME OF GOD
Reply to MadridistAli:
Your idea of 'perfection' is absolutely crazy.
Have you ever seen Raul play when he was actually good?
You wouldn't say he was pefect last year.
Reply to Adambader:
...er I think it is Liverpool asking for cash actually.
Sorry to break the bad news.
Reply to Caracoleo:
Ah, I thought it was a pure swap deal with no cash involved. Naah, I think it aint good for us. Sneijder is class.
Reply to MadridistAli:
the thing is raul is 32 and sneijder is like 24 if raul was 24 we wouldnt be saying all this stuff he is just passedd hes best so he gota step down which he aint doing thats what is most annoying
Reply to Adambader:
the question is: is Sneijder capable on playing as deep as Xabi?? i mean defensively.
Hey guys don't worry.
Madrid is going to be too fast next year for Raul. He just won't fit into the gameplay.
He'll feel too humiliated to play before mid-season I think; lets hope we don't face problems because of that.
So yeah, he's not an issue; we're done with him. Remember my words.
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
I don't think he is - and he's never been asked to really.
Alonso is the kind of player Madrid are looking for; someone who can affect and run a game from deep. Kaka will play higher up the field anyway, so Sneijder will have very limited opportunities this season.
I'm surprised Liverpool don't want Robben. It's on the wings where they really lack quality. I wonder if Benitez is going to end up asking Robben?
Reply to Caracoleo:
Is he better then Saviola at all?
Damn and i thought the stupid people couldn't get any more stupid, hmm i got proved wrong..
Of course Pelligrini will bench Raul for Higuain and Benzema.
After all he said he would retire in 2010.
No news on trying to sign any defenders... Hmm interesting, i wonder who would be the left back?
In the current squad i would prefer Miguel Torres.
LINK
this made me laugh. Thx god he we didnt give up Higuain for this fool. His agent needs a reality check.
2-3 seasons
Higuain>Ibra
Benz>Ibra
w/o a doubt.
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
i don't think we are done with him yet(at least not in this coming season).....either he will play allmost all the game to mess it up properly or he will perform better(which has very less chance) .
Reply to Madridista09:
Stupid is keeping Saviola on the bench the WHOLE season while Raul drags his ass over the pitch week after week.
Really stupid is constantly kissing Raul's ass, like you do, confusing the past and the present.
Remind us again, what year is it in your world?
Reply to Madridista09:
I agree with you here. Agents eh?
Reply to Caracoleo:
Agents are jackasses.
Reply to Madridista09:
His agent is very repetitive, he keeps on saying the same stuff. Fact is Ibra has never been important in the matches that matter, not for Sweden and in CL not for Inter. He's most certainly not worth what Barca is willing to pay for him.
Personally I love Drogba. 
Too late for that now though, since we already got Benzema.
Signing him will have a total cost of 87.5 million euros, what hypocrites talking shit about the Ronaldo deal. Ibra's transfer fee has been set to €45m, Barca got a €35m offer from Manchester City for Eto'o and Hleb will be set on a loan deal to Inter for €7,5m.
From what I've seen, Ibra can be good but he is not consistent and never been the decisive factor in important matches (unlike Eto'o, Henry, Messi).
Now the lack of respect they show to Eto'o is another factor which will work against Barca, financially wise. Eto'o is a hero in Africa, Barca will loose a lot of fans by treating him this way. If Perez is smart and thinks about marketing only (which it looks like most of them time) he should get an African hero, this way Asia and Africa will be in the hands of Real.
And from what I've read Eto's will give both Barca and Inter a hard time getting him to work along: LINK
I think he's taking a shot back at both Inter and Barca, cause he feels undervalued. Good for him.
Reply to Adambader:
Don't forget Adam...Ruud,Benzema,Higuain & Raul will all be fighting for one single position.(If we play 4-4-2 with Kaka used as a supporting striker).And if ALL get injured or underperform...there would be C.Ronaldo who can also play as a striker.However I agree that selling both Huntelaar & Negredo is a bad idea
Reply to Daniel:
CR9 is likely to play as the supporting striker instead of kaka who's gonna be the playmaker. it doesn't mean kaka is necessarily to play in the flank but in the middle.
Reply to Caracoleo:
Nah. See i made comments about raul that he should be benched so Higuain could shine.
It is 2009 btw 20th of July.
Reply to Adambader:
Dude, Ibra's Agent are so good.. can anybody recommend the agent to Raul?? Surely the agent would say " Raul is better than all the players in RM".
Reply to RMFantasy:
Whosh..whosh..Any club wants to buy Raul? He is a Legend and worth 200m way better than CR9, Benzi and Kaka when mix together.
Javi Garcia has been transferred to Benfica this website has confirmed and it and so has MARCA .. we do have a buy back option I believe but it was clear he was going to go because he would not get many chances.. but Thank You Javi Garcia good luck in Benfica.. LINK and here is another link.. LINK
Reply to themadridguy:
Only Madrid fans do this...... can u imagine man u fans tunring against scholes and giggs and they are now 35..... how shamfully we treat our megastars who have poured eveything they have in madrid.... rem heirro and how shamefully he was kicked out....!!! fans like u disgust me!!!
Reply to melbournemadridista:
Absolutely true ............. fergie wanted to buy him this time round........!!!!
he is pure class.....!!!
if we would have waited for 3 years had to pay more than what we paid for ron!!
thank god perez has the foresight which these fools lack....!! thats why he is the prez....
hala Madrid!!!
Go perez!!
Reply to Madridista09:
U say we changed the tactics according to raul....????
how long have u been a madrid supporter...???
let me tell u a fact that raul is a striker but during the last perez era he was played as anything but... i remember him being put as a left mid sometimes.. sometimes as attacking mid. sometimes in the hole.... and those were his worst years.... because he had to play everywhere but in his position...
do u think u are more intelligent than the real madrid coaches....??? or do u think none of them just have balls...(so many coaches without balls... hmm something to ponder..)
he is the model professional....
He is Real Madrid's golden boy....!!
and even for a minute lets assume he plays for personal records(which he doesnt) he is one of the players who would die for madrid!! but lest assume he does play for himself///...
so how does he get such brilliant records if he plays crap....????
And show some respect to the real legend.....
why are madrid fans so disgusting to their legends..
I have never seen any other team talk abt this to their icon players....!!!
it saddens me to say this but some madristas like u who do not give respect shame all of us...!!!
I am not saying he should play all... but he doesnt deserve this disrespect......!!!
Lol. Raúl's 18 league goals must have been a mistake. he is shuch a horrible player. lol...
Anyway, i'd like to remind you all that during the last season Raúl, on multiple ocations (sorry 'bout the spelling) said that he accepts the fact that he might not be a starter all the time anymore.
Reply to Mikisto:
mistake?! Higuain's goals were mistakes 7 or 8 goals from penalties and Raul didnt even score one penalty and dont say Higuain took the penalties coz he's beta,no coz Raul wuzn't there
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Sorry...didn't understand what you're saying.I think Ronaldo will play as a winger not as a supporting striker.I mentioned him as a striker if needed ONLY.
Reply to Danniel:
what i tryna say is that CR9 is gonna play more forward than Kaka, unlike what u said kaka will be the supporting striker. and CR9 shouldn't be given a fixed position. he should be given the freedom like Messi has in barca. His goal scoring ability is superb. I don't see the need to limit him flanks in which case our attack will be too predictable like last year.
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
and i forgot to tell you that kaka himself prefers to play as an ACM rather than 2nd striker(his MIlan position). He wants more room for himself.
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Well what we need are players who can play on the wings in my opinion...so Ronaldo would be an excellent candidate.My most practical formtion I could think of would be this...(I'm only using our current players).This would also be very close to the first galactco era.
------------------Casillas
Ramos---Pepe/(Garay)-----Albiol---Marcelo/(Torres)
-------Lass/(Sneijder)-----Diarra/(Gago)
Ronaldo----------------------------Kaka/(Robben)
-----------Higuain/(Raul)
-------------------------Benzema/(RVN)
In order for what you're saying to happen we'd play 4-3-3...which is not liked by Pellegrini from what I heard and read.
Reply to Danniel:
urs would work out well. this is actually what we were using at 01/02 and 02/03. and according to the lineup we played the first friendly in ireland, Pellegrini tends to TRY on playing CR9 on the wing with two strikers up front. However, i believe we will turn out playing 1 striker later on. If we play CR9 and Robben in the starting XI together with kaka as the ACM, This 4-5-1 will actually turn out to be a 4-3-3. IMO, CR9 should be used as Lionel Messi who hasn't had a fixed position. CR9 deserves to have more freedom on attack. The attack will be much more flexible and unpredictable. according to the playing style of Villareal in last couple of seasons. They tended to rely on the wingbacks to attack on the flank rather than "wingers". the "wingers" tend to cut in(it doesn't mean they can't drive down the flank but just when it's needed). Unfortunately, with the players we have in hand now, i don't think we can play this type of football. They suit 4-3-3 more.
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Cr9 is not Figo type of "winger" who tend to attract defenders, create room and provide crosses, he is more like a forward type of winger who tend to CUT IN and create room to strike, this is similar to robben. He is known as a "forward" more than a "midfielder". Of course, he also can do what a winger doest in the flank. But this will restrict him to provide his best--his goal scoring technique. Honestly, i even prefer Ribery to CR9 if we talk about a "FIGO TYPE OF PLAYMAKING WINGER". and up to now, i can't find a passer(like david silva or Iniesta) in our squad who can be the assistant of kaka. we are still missing a decent LB. Robben is a great dribbler but not a passer; Marcelo attacks great but sucks on defense. That's why i do think a 4-3-3 will be more suitable IMO. I know it's not likely to happen. maybe a 4-2-2-2 is also worth it to try on the friendly games.
huntelaar should definately stay and pelligrini should rely primarily on higuain benzema hutnelaar and negredo with raul and ruud supplying experience when needed... huntelaar is the oldest out of the first four i mentioned and his experience should help the other 3 selling him would be a bad idea and i sort of wish he forces himself on the team
Reply to ahmad:
ahmad are u aware that only 25 players are allowed on a team.. and in this squad you want to keep 6 strikers...???
and how do u propose to keep them all happy
give them all enough playing time considering this is the world cup year.....
Plus we need to raise some money and reduce some wages even Real Madrid needs to offload some players for money :-)
Plus we do need to buy alonso and a good left back maybe arbeloa
Raul deserves nothing but respect, all the strikers that the club had in recent years cannot compared to the Great One of the Real, He is the guy that has skills to win a game whether he is scoring or assisting, remember, if you are a defender, you cannot undermine his presence, let him retire as a player with respect because he earned it, i believe not of you guys here works as hard as this guy.
Reply to francis:
I completely Agree. Raul may not be the same player he was 6-7 years ago but he has proven over the past 2 seasons he can still deliver. He knows how to adapt and the man can still put the ball in the net. If I'm not mistaken he had more goals than Higuain in ALL competitions last year and I believe he will be continue to be clutch and score goals as he has done before not to mention his unrivaled work ethic. I don't think any other madrid player runs as much as him in a game.