OFFICIAL: Real Madrid Sign Cristiano Ronaldo from Manchester United
Friday, 26 June 09, 02:58 PM · Comments (153)
And here comes the official confirmation of Cristiano Ronaldo's move to Real Madrid. The club has just issued the following statement.
Real Madrid CF and Manchester United have signed the definitive agreement for the transfer of Cristiano Ronaldo to the Spanish club on 1 July.
The player will stay at Real Madrid for six seasons.
Ronaldo will be presented at the Santiago Bernabeu on 6 July.
The fee is $135m (95m euros -- 80m pounds). His salary is set to be 15m euros a year. His image rights will be divided 50-50. His shirt number is yet to be known, but it is most likely to be "9".
Cristiano Ronaldo's Profile & Honours
| Birthdate: | 05 Feb 1985 |
|---|---|
| Birthplace: | Madeira, Portugal |
| Position: | Winger |
| Appearances: | 291 |
| Goals: | 118 |
| Joined United: | 12 Aug 2003 |
| United Debut: | 16 Aug 2003 v Bolton (H) |
| International | Portugal |
Honors
Manchester United
- Premier League: 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
- FA Cup: 2003–04
- League Cup: 2005–06, 2008–09
- FA Community Shield: 2007
- UEFA Champions League: 2007–08
- FIFA Club World Cup: 2008
Individual
- UEFA Euro 2004 Team of the Tournament
- FIFPro Special Young Player of the Year: 2004–05, 2005–06
- Portuguese Footballer of the Year: 2006–07
- UEFA Team of the Year: 2003–2004, 2006–07, 2007-08
- FIFPro World XI: 2006–07, 2007–08
- PFA Young Player of the Year: 2006–07
- PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2006–07, 2007–08
- PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2006–07, 2007–08
- PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2005–06, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
- FWA Footballer of the Year: 2006–07, 2007–08
- Barclays Player of the Season: 2006–07, 2007–08
- Barclays Player of the Month: November 2006, December 2006, January 2008, March 2008
- Barclays Golden Boot: 2007–08
- Barclays Merit Award: 2007–08
- European Golden Shoe: 2007–08
- UEFA Club Forward of the Year: 2007–08
- UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2007–08
- FIFPro World Player of the Year: 2007–08
- Ballon d'Or: 2008
- FIFA World Player of the Year: 2008
- FIFA Team of the Year: 2008
Hala Madrid!
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I'm glad this Ronaldo shit is finally over!!
Now we can truly look forward to him playing at the ESTADIO SANTIAGO BERNABEU!
GREAT NEWS it was expected and now its finished.. Kaka, C Ronaldo, and Raul Albiol.. also thanks to Saviola for his great attitude and sportsmanship and best of luck in the future.. HALA MADRID
I hope ronaldo wouldn't disappoint us. I am expecting a lot from him , actually more than kaka.Whatever happening in the club should end well. means we should get some more player which we are expecting. I am really eager to see their performance. Maybe it would be too much to expect they will win CL this year, but still we are going to have a far better squad than last year,so nothing wrong to hope
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Reply to banvuvuzeladotcom:
Actually, I'm quite sick of it too! It sounds like insects! And I'm going to that site now!
Reply to themadridguy:
Plz Madridistas! You should also go to that site and register.
Best thing about Ronaldo is that the more pressure he has the more brilliant the output he gives.
He will explode in Madrid Remember my words.. Explode!
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
Yeah! Ronaldo is the ULTIMATE GALACTICO
for me!
Reply to banvuvuzeladotcom:
Vuvuzela is our way of supporting our teams here in Africa, we would happily ask FIFA to take the World Cup away from here than let them dictate the way we do things in our backyard! Europeans sing so loud at soccer matches, we play Vuvuzela.....and drums....and all that the African way!
I hate this punk, I never wanted him to come to Madrid. But now that he's wearing the white kit, I'm forced to support him. He is NOT the best player in the world, but as long as he plays well, I won't talk about him.
Welcome CR9....although it would be CR7 is certain ppl would make way for others....let's just hope and pray you don't have to be assisting no. 7 too much from this season on
According to the MARCA front page for saturday.. Villa asked valencia to sell him to Madrid.. its getting interesting.. LINK
According to The Times Xabi Alonso has decided to quit liverpool.. LINK
Why don't we go for Capdevilla. Our Coach is ex-Villareal person.It's easy to convince he leaving.His deal will not be costy, he not young either , that will be a positive point, when he retire, Marcelo'll grow up :->
Reply to R7real:
did u forget the reason why we don't use marcelo??? Capdevilla can attack well but he is not an outstanding defender. He doesn't even like to defend. his arrival will not form us a solid backline. He is okay against some average guy but not some particular great attacker like Messi.
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
I dont know,i believe Kaka will outshine C.Ronaldo,i expect more from him,keep in mind that he is a Playmaker
Reply to Madridista4:
Please,is there's any english version for Marca
Reply to Ultras Sur:
Same here mate...atleast it is said that he does not disrupt the dressing room...hope that proves to be the case.
Good riddance to bad trash... you can have the ball-hogging jerk-off... he lost us the champions league final.. have fun watching his ego ruin your team =)
Reply to MadridistAli:
the more pressure the better he performs? no... the more cameras, the more press, the more he tries to steal the show all by himself... Kaka was a good pick up... ronaldo will disappoint you, mark my words...
Reply to Danniel:
Yeah.I guess he's our "Mourinho" figure where he'll take the spotlight from Madrid and some of the pressure too,i hope.
Reply to MathJones83:
I think your being too harsh on him .. yes he is a diva but the guy knows his football.. he ain't an extraordinaire but he defiantly a excellent player
Reply to Danniel:
I think we don't have to worry about him too much....He played in big club like man.u before so i think he would be doing more mature behavior in dressing room.
Reply to MathJones83:
I agree with u that he tries to show off a lot, which doesn't work most of the time. But still he has a very good ability of scoring as winger. Now it would be too much if we expect him to perform like he did in past couple of years for man u without giving him a similar squad like man u. He got expected level of support from his teammate over there, so he shined a lot...in madrid with no defense or striker what he can do all by himself ??
*i know we r signed player now like kaka,albiol.But thats not enough at all.
Reply to Ultras Sur:
If he is not the best player in the world then who is, YOU? At least he has got the FIFA World Player of the Year award to show for it, unlike you!
Reply to MathJones83:
Another Man Utd hypocrite! If it wasn't for him, U wouldn't even reach the CL final! Forgot his goals against Porto and Arsenal?? Last year, it was only becuz of that "punk" that you won the CL! At least thank him for the contribution he made, you worthless piece of...!
Reply to MathJones83:
As if our team wasn't ruined before his arrival!
Reply to Madridista4:
That 41 mil Euros price tag for Alonso is too high. Don't you think??
Reply to themadridguy:
Ronaldo is gonna score more goals than Kaka hands down!!
If we sign Villa, he should get number 9, and give Ronaldo VDV's 23.
Reply to themadridguy:
whoever madrid is goin for, they put a high price tag on them.... cuz they think madrid is waiting with bag full of money.
alonso 41 m
maicon 40 m
ibra 90 m
ribery 70 m
these all are crap price tag......i think this is one of the main reason why perez refused to pay more for villa. cuz he thought if he pays valencia some xtra 5 m , after everbody will keep demanding high transfer price from madrid.
Reply to themadridguy:
ronaldo is a winger who scores....
kaka will play as a midfielder who will assist by his vision of the pitch .
so if kaka plays as a playmaker with his ability, higuain , ronaldo , even raul can score
Reply to MadridistAli:
if you put in marca in google you can translate the page in into english
id rather get cesc Fab then alonso...
If we don't get Alonso then I really believe Sneijder can do the job and play in that role.. Sneijder will be back to his best
Reply to MathJones83:
i said am expecting more from Kaka,me too i hate C.Ronaldo but we must wish him the best with Real Madrid
Reply to Madridista4:
Couldnt have agreed more.And he's certainly better than Alonso at scoring.
Reply to themadridguy:
Yes he will and i hope,but Kaka will assist more and more goals for all Real Madrid players
Reply to waheed:
i tried but it didnt work,everytime its says error (http 128..blah blah blah)
Personally I don't get why the Dutchies want to stay in Madrid. Both Valdano and Perez Dissed the Dutch players on multiple occasions. Have some pride and leave, make them eat their words later (Valdano and Perez that is).
As for Ronaldo, he's a great player but his ego tends to get in the way, by overspending on players the balance is negative in my opinion. Don't think big prices will be won this year, but we'll see.
Reply to themadridguy:
yeah you rigth
you boys are getting the best player in the world by a country mile. all of you that are already moaning abot him believe me you wont be in a few months. the lad is a freak. and as for the united supporters on here saying that they are glad he is gone you lot just need to realise that he wanted to go to a bigger club and improve himself. theres nothing wrong in that. good luck to him and thanks for helping make the premier league the best in the world.
i think for da number ,i wud really give CR no. 17,, if RVN will leave,, and kaka no 9,, dunno bout albiol and garay...
Reply to Madridista4:
hahahaha....
yea.. im getting so confused bout dis hell.. 
Reply to johnnyg:
Finally some sense here!
Reply to Taufik:
I think C.Ronaldo will go either for no. 9 or 10 !
hi Again Madridistas, It was really a long time before I stopped writing in the forum,but now I want to congratulate everybody on the new president and the new ERA our team is getting into, whatever were the players that are coming I hope they give their best to RM and we will shine again like the glorious days
I just wanted to say something about the dutch players who are likely to leave, one that should stay whatever happens , ROBBEN is a deadly weapon if we give up on him somebody else will get him, he is still young and very talented. we should give him a one more season chance with the new players and I'm sure we are going to be proud of him... C.ronaldo arrival as well as KAKA arrival made me feel better because they are great players, and I'm sure they'll cooperate well, R. albiol is a good young player and he'll be great with S. Ramos...I hope we'll get Karim Benzema...
Hala MAdrid!!!
Reply to Trunks:
dutch don't want to leave for 2 reason ;
firstly, they get really good salary on their present contract with madrid. if they go somewhere else they will not get the same money as they are not in form.
secondly, as some more stars going to come and hopefully madrid will win titles , so they want to have share of that glory which they may not get in their new clubs.(as spurs offer for RVN,fiorentina for derenthe ).
Reply to themadridguy:
he will get 9 , cuz sneijder has 10...n probably he is not leaving
Reply to melbournemadridista:
I always liked Drenthe, good personality and his heart was with Real from the beginning. He has so much potential/talent, I think he will be a force to recon with in the future. I doubt if he'll return to Madrid though, the fans treated him poorly, booing such a young player (was not like he wasn't putting in any effort, so blame the people that bought him and those who gave him playtime or just shut the ... up).
As for RVN it would make me really sad to see him end his career playing for a second rate English club. A player from his caliber should end it in style, or in his own country.
I don't think they are in it for sharing glory if they have no playtime, these people live/eat/breathe football. They're not in it for the money either, that's just an extra.
More stars doesn't necessarily mean more prices (or any prices at that). I personally was hoping Real would be building a collective, a team. But it's starting to look like a group of individuals. Needs to be a healthy balance in a team, too many stars will cause problems. Look at Chelsea earlier this year, they needed a peoples manager to fix that (Hiddink).
Reply to joe007:
i agree robben should stay he is a fantastic player and if we sell him i'm sure we're gonna regret that. I think we should keep sneijder to he could be a supersub cause we have to have quality on the bench to.
Reply to themadridguy:
Listen, where did I ever say I was a great player?
I bet you're one of those Ronaldo fans that started supporting Real Madrid when he arrived. He is a great player no doubt, but he is NOT the best player in the world. I hate to admit it, especially since he plays for Barca, but I'd rather have Messi any day.
I'm even a big fan of Iniesta, especially when he plays for Spain. I remember there was a poll for Madridistas on Marca I think. It was about who they would prefer Perez would sign. The majority of Madridistas voted for Iniesta. I may sound crazy, but I think he's as good as Kaka.
Messi and Iniesta are the two players from Barca that I wish could play for Madrid.
Reply to Ultras Sur:
No. you are wrong! I was a Real Madrid fan from long ago when I was a kid. Probably from 97. And my first favourite player was Fernando Morientes.
And criticising Ronaldo will not make u any better person.
Reply to Ultras Sur:
You're not alone, I can assure you. I also hate him and I cried when I heard he was coming. It feels like he's gonna destroy "my" beloved team. But I have decided that I'm not gonna look at him. I hope Ribéry is coming so I can concentrate on him.
And when the first one comes and complaines over his attitude on the pitch and over all the writings in the press over him and his affairs I'm going to laugh my ass off!
And I'm a good enough person!
Reply to BIM-56:
Man enough of Ronaldo haters!
you guys have some issues over ronaldo!!!take a chill pill and accept him cause there aint any better player than him. trust me when i say i am the biggets ronaldo hater alive but i gotta admit that he is unique. i believe he is still a child, he migth be 24 years old but he still act like 15 years old kid and i dont blame him or that infact i think he will grow under raul leadership and will find a different world at bernabue. i can bet any guy here at this blog that soon they will be singing his songs
in addition mark my words he will go down as one of the five greatest player ever to play for real madrid...just give him a chance, i am literally begging
Reply to flynn:
who needs a CM to score??? i rather have someone who can depend and cover the gap. Sneijder definitely can play this role and i also expect so much on him. But honestly, he really gotta participate on defense more and more often. and he must be sacrificing his scoring ambition and reducing his frequency of penetrating forward. Cuz the most important thing for a CM is positioning. One gotta be able to turn defense onto attack, so he must stay in his own position all the time. Sneijder can maintain the bond well, he can distribute the ball way better than Gago, he is faster, etc.....but he really has to improve his defending technique and couldn't make passes in rushes like he used to be. Playing CM is totally different with ACM, ACM tends to focus on attack and one can pass the ball forward whenever he find opened men, CM must look the midfield as a whole and must be able to whether slow down or fasten up. that's why Gago's 8 assissts would be enough to cover his overall ineffeciency on his CM role.
Drenthe is going to loan at Fiorentina a great move for the young lad where Fiorentina will play in the champions league so hopefully he will impress.. LINK
Reply to BIM-56:
I am just not getting one thing, u guys are man u fans or madrid fans ?
most of the man u fans i know personally, now a days all the time they are shouting: man u is now a better team except ronaldo / man u will do better without ronaldo / ronaldo's ego was big problem for man u in success.
now in this blog i am lookin at same comments.Guys he is not that bad person, its media who made it like that. Whatever he was, still he performed in his club, and I am sorry to say Man U performed better than us in last couple of years(EPL N CL) . So its better , if we wait and see. just don't try to be haters.
Reply to BIM-56:
one more thing , he doesn't need to destroy ur beloved team, we are already in a very bad situation after el classico n cl defeat to liverpool.what worse do you think can happen ??
how come some of us have already judge with stereotypical association??? he hasn't even presented to real madrid yet?? the prejudice is kind of harsh. We didn't say shit when those lower rank players being signed but we critisize like crazy when the FIFA world Player of the year was signed. THis is so damn stupid as a fan. I'd made harsh criticisms on some RM players because they didn't play like real madrid's level. But i wouldn't be stupid enough to judge a player without even seeing his debut with the club.
I am not a fan of CR, i also don't like his off-pitch attitude. But is this matter if he plays good on the pitch?? i don't think so. i rather have a "party" player who can play well on the pitch than a very deciplined player plays shit on the pitch. Moreover, everything is still uncertain. who knows if CR will become more focus on the team if he comes. i concern on some technical stuffs rather than this kind of meaningless prejudice.
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
I fully agree with u! I mean why they hate him so much??? He maid Man U a CL winners, he scored more than 40 goals... But, but,we have to say bad words, just leave him alone, let him play!
He is a player, not a president of USA, leave him alone when he is out of White House!
I am not his fan, but let us be Honest, he is Best.
According to AS.. Kaka presentation is on Tuesday June 30, Raul Albiol presentation is on Thursday July 2, and Ronaldo presentation is on Monday July 6
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Look, im only saying if we couldnt get Alonso away from Anfield, we shouldnt bother looking for somebody else and just give the players that we have a chance.
And im just pointing out that Sneijder gives us an added advantage with his scoring capabilities although his passing is average.
Reply to flynn:
But if Alonso chooses to come, then it would be good for Real Madrid.
btw, does anybody have an update on De La Red's current situation ? Will he be able to play ?
Dudek has renewed his contract for one more season with Real Madrid
Reply to Madridista4:
Wow! That's a surprise!
Reply to Madridista4:
Where did U read it??
Reply to soccerlovee:
According to this article at People.co.uk, Man City are supposed to be lining up a deal to try to acquire Robben from Real Madrid.
It makes mention of their desire to catch both Eto'o & Tevez first it seems and then to also go and get Robben:
LINK=man-city-line-up-a-real-deal-for-arjen-robben%26method=full%26objectid=21478194%26siteid=93463-name_page.html
Reply to themadridguy:
I read it on defensa central and also a polish website I believe but it should be official this coming week.. but according to numerous reports we have made a 32 million bid for Karim Benzema.. it will be interesting to see how if its true
Raul Albiol had a good game today I really like him as a player
Reply to Madridista4:
32 M of what euros ?? i don't think it would be enough...Man U was already in the race , now arsenal also joined ...i am feeling he would cost us around 45/50 M .
Reply to melbournemadridista:
I think the best option for both clubs would be a trade...25m + VDV for example
I think we ought to give 40 million Euros for Benzema. That is the price even his agent said was the correct valuation of him. And nobody wants a shit player like VDV. So fogget about it!
IF SOME OF YOU HAD ANY DOUBT REGARDING RAUL'S FEAR IN THE REAL MADRID DRESSING ROOM, READ THESE STATEMENTS MADE BY SCHOLARI:
"I am sure Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka will get on very well with each other. Cristiano has nothing to do with the conceited image everybody has of him. I think both of them will be big friends"
"Real Madrid's PROBLEM IS RAUL. He is already a veteran and he still is in charge of the dressing room."
As you can see, it will be Raul who will disturb the harmony of the dressing room, not CR7!
And read this by Portuguese legend Eusebio on C.Ronaldo:
“I cannot define him [Ronaldo]. He is now the god of another world. I think this year’s Real Madrid will not have problems because at the moment he is the best player in the world.”
Now those Ronaldo naysayers, who don't think he is the best footballer in the world, you can shut your mouth, becuz this man CERTAINLY knows better than you and he is also a Football Legend, unlike you!
Reply to themadridguy:
Besids Benzema and maybe Lloris...Lyon don't have a single player who's VDV's level....so calling VDV a sht player is nonsense.
As for Scolari...I don't care what he says...he might have coached Brazil and Portugal...but he never coached R.Madrid so he doesn't realy know what Raul is...every R.Madri coach speaks highly of Raul.
Reply to themadridguy:
VDV, shit? Fool, the lad has made the finals of the Balon d'Or and FIFA world player twice in a row and actually got to fifth position two/three seasons ago. Support coments with facts, baseless arguments are like popcorn with no butter.
Reply to themadridguy:
Why the attitude? You're always complaining in here when someone attacks Ronaldo but look at what you are doing. Also don't spread nonsense, v/d Vaart was hyped and he couldn't live up to it, not many can. However his career ain't over just yet, personally I think v/d Vaart is too good for the French and German competition. V/d vaart needs more playtime to improve, needs to get used to a team, which was impossible in Real since real shines in manager/player swapping.
But seriously just cause you have ronaldo avatars doesn't mean you have to be as cocky as him.
Whatever, spill all the hate towards me you got, still ain't gonna change the fact that VDV is a SHIT player! VDV IS SHIT! VDV IS SHIT! VDV IS SHIT! VDV IS SHIT!
If somebody still didn't notice, VDV IS SHITT!!!!!!!!
Reply to Trunks:
When U get that much money, U got to perform NO MATTER WHAT!!!
VDV IS INFACT SHIT PLAYER- NO PACE, NO DRIBBLING SKILL, NO PASSING VISION, NO SHOOTING POWER, NO NOTHING- ALL CRAP AND MEDIOCRITY,PATHETIC!!!
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Who are u calling a fool???
Watch out your tongue mister!
Just in from realmadrid.com: Kaka to be presented on Tuesday, 30th June.
"Fans have been waiting for this moment for a long time. Kaka will be presented at 20:30 CET on 30 June at the Santiago Bernabeu Stadium. He will arrive straight from South Africa, where he's been playing in the Confederations Cup."
One question: Why is he being presented at night?? That's not usual!
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Support comments with facts?? Like U mean to say, Ronaldo is not the best footballer in the world- is supported with facts??
Gimme a break man, u make me laugh!
What's this?? Looks like USA is gonna win the Confederations Cup!
2-0 USA!
Reply to themadridguy:
Because they want for South America and North America to see it. When Beckham got presented Cnn and BBC was there so they might be there for kaka and then Ronaldo.
Reply to themadridguy:
Who mentioned anything about Ronaldo? But if you ask me Messi outshone Ronaldo in the CL final...and also played better in the league...so yes I don't think he's the best...he's excellent...but not the best.Giving reasons for what you say such as this is supporting your commets with fact mate
Van der Vaart is a great player, there's no doubt. We bought him when we didn't even need him. We needed wingers and bought a central midfielder when we already had 6. He was World-Class and he still shows class with the Netherlands. In fact, every Ducthman we have except Drenthe is amazing for Netherlands. You an't call a player shit with no back-up is all i'm saying. And with all the abuse i've seen users like you hurl, I deserve to speak my mind too. And yes, I know who i'm talking to but you should know who you're talking to. Users like me Danniel snd DynastyOfRealMadrid have been using this blog for ages and it's not fun to see people being so disrespectful. I've seen so many users limit their comments just because of some crazy comments, RealMadridFan for example. He can present his argument with class, can you? Hala Madrid!
Now, new users have to 'respect'old users??
Gimme a break man!! What if I didn't have Internet in my home before?? Being an old user doesn't make U somehow 'special'!!!
Reply to themadridguy:
Haha how are you come up with these things?XD You have to respect everybody mate
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Now, new users have to 'respect'old users??
Gimme a break man!! What if I didn't have Internet in my home before?? Being an old user doesn't make U somehow 'special'!!!
Sorry for the double post, accident!
I never said respect me, I just said you should know how to be respectful to everyone. We're not trash, nor are you so be respectful. Most of the new users just need to learn how to have an argument and not impose their opinion in such a harsh manner. Sorry, if you think i'm being disrespectful.
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
It's already man! It's just that the ""fool" thing irked me!!
Reply to themadridguy:
* alright not already
Reply to felipe:
That's crap!!
Reply to themadridguy:
Raul is Real's main problem right now IMO.....notice for years no young fierce striker has come to madrid and even when a striker comes they end up on the bench....if we do by some long shot miracle get villa poor higuain will suck bench....if raul gets benched you know pelligrini is out within months.
LOL! Brazil win 3-2 after going 2-0 down!
Reply to realfreak:
Yeah I'm sick of Grandpa Raul!
LOL! Kaka is the MVP of the CONFED. CUP!
Great display by Kaka.. and now since confederations cup is over the futures of some players linked with us will be much clearer
Reply to realfreak:
mate its not like that. As a leader raul has control over dressing room i agree, but that doesn't mean that he will be so selfish to let madrid loose.He is a senior player , and he also knows his better days gone, so i think he will think what is best for the team. And the main thing is that, lets the season start first, till xmas we can observe the team. So it would be very early to make any harsh comment on raul/ronaldo/kaka .
Reply to themadridguy:
mate how many bottles of bear u finished ?
calm down......
i am also a big time raul,ronaldo n casillas fan....so i understand u feel bad when someone talk about ronaldo. But its a discussion board...n we all support same club, so what is the point of throwing mud to each other. If you really want to throw mud to someone throw it to catalans
Reply to melbournemadridista:
Last year, Raul hardly let Huntelaar play! What do u have to say about that??
Reply to themadridguy:
Or poor Saviola for that matter!!
Like I said, 14 years and still people can't get enough of same old mediocre Raul!!
Gimme a break!
Reply to flynn:
I dare ask u, among those players we have, who can be a decent CM??? i also look up to sneijder but it's gonna be extremely difficult to him to adapt to this CM role since he is not likely to defend. i ain't saying he can't but it definitely takes time for him to get used to it; DLR is an uncertainty due to his health problem; Gago is horrible and only deserves to be a sub; who else?? Guti?? yes, indeed, sometimes vice-captain can play at "zidane" level, but it's like once in awhile. like 5 out of 20 games. he is not a reliable one.
None of those in our squad is reliable enough. giving them chances DOES NOT MEAN we gotta take risk on them. u don't know how important such a CM role for us??? without such a distributer who can turn defense onto attack, the existence of kaka and ronaldo will be meaningless. we can't take risk for that. without a decent LB, we still could put a CB or RB to fill up the vacancy, it still works out defensively. BUt for CM, only a CM can play as a CM. but i emphasize that i would like to see Sneijder to try on it. BUt we can't afford to take risk .
Reply to Danniel:
VDV is definitely not a shit player, but saying no one in lyon is at VDV's level is also nonsense. the veteran Juninho Pernambucano who just retired is definitely better than VDV. u can say none of the attacking midfielder in lyon is at Lyon but u can't say their whole team is like that. i dare say the broken squad we had last seaosn, we would still had our butt kicked against them. cuz they played like a team.
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
*i mean at VDV's level, ont "Lyon's level"
Reply to themadridguy:
calm down dude, VDV is definitely a 1st rank player in Europe. He might not be among the best list. But he is definitely not a shit one......
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
i miss that RealMadridFan dude so much too.
Can't wait for Kaka's presentation on June 30th, then Ronaldo's on July 6th!
Reply to themadridguy:
yeah def its going to big .. hopefully we get few more great presentations
I was just wondering, will we have a full team ready for next season in time for the peace cup??
Reply to themadridguy:
i dont think it will be full but im sure it will be close to it.. over the next 2 weeks we will most likely sell the players we don't need
it will be odd, if some of the players who play in the Peace Cup, get sold later!
Hey Adam!! I was wondering if U could set up a chat box here- for 1 and 2 liners! Is that possible mate?
It would be handy for some folks!
What is this news bout Barca offering 4-years deal for Villa?? Dammit, Valencia are becoming like MU (Ronaldo saga)!! Didn't they pull out Villa from the transfer market???? Why if pathetic Barca team offering contract to Villa. If its true then Valencia is not honoring their words to Madrid. LINK
Reply to RMFantasy:
that report is 2 days old and since then valencia have denied they have received a bid . but who knows anything can happen
Reply to RMFantasy:
Perez, just sign Villa if Valencia is selling him. Rumors says that he love to join Madrid and why dont sign him since all the duchies goin to be offload. It would be good to have Villa, Negredo, Higuin and Raul in our strike force. Negredo(Hot Prospect), Higuin (one of the best last season in RM), Raul (cant say much) and Villa (the best in spain).
ribery and villa would make the attack complete....we need a good left back thats the big problem.. i think we should keep sneijder hes the only dutch player i think is good enuf for madrid but robben is good aswell but he gets injurd to much maybe thats what cost him hes real madrid career and hunterlaars no bad eather..so i dont know im gna be sad to see them leave..real madrid should get some left back from the castilla side and give him a chance
Reply to waheed:
There is less chances that the Castilla players goin to break thru the main team. Valdano has mention that none of the Castilla players worthy of playing in the top flight. There is potential but to use them, not at this moment when the 1st team itself has yet being fully establish. RM are bringing all the big guns to the team and hopefully Pellgrime can adopt/establish an attractive playing style with lethal strategy for the forthcoming season.
If Villa come, it would be great and hopefully he be in the 1st 11 together with higuin/negredo. I did not mention Raul coz if Raul goin to be the main full time starter for the whole season, then there is no point buying or adding our strike force. They will only rot on the bench. No offense thou to Raul fans. If he is a caliber leader, he should think of his team before himself if he is under perform.
I love to have Ribery as well thou we still have Robben. Yes he is injury prom but if Marcelo is not good in defending, he is good as a winger. We still can use Marcelo as Super Sub.
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Can you mention any players (besides Benzema) who are better tha VDV then?Cause as you said...Juninho left.(Btw he did not retire...his contract was terminated...he is still available to play)
Also as you said correctly, they play as a team...but that does not mean that their individual players are better than ours...not even close infact.
As i had mention, it might be a reality that Raul will be the starter in every game next season if the rumors are true LINK
That only left us Raul, Higuin and maybe Hunter. If RM use Negredo for alonso, then we are playing with only 3 striker next season. It hurts to see that Negredo was bought back only to be use as a make shift for other transfer.
IMO, since Liverpool wants Hienze badly, why dont we trade him for Alonso? Perez need Alonso badly, Benitez wants Heinze, well there is mutual understanding that both parties can be in win wi situation. ohh yes, i forgot that Liverpool already bought a new LB so there is no chance for the trade to take place.
Reply to Danniel:
VDV is one of the best player years ago. he is good but his style does not suite RM type of playing. RM history the midfield tend to hold the ball with a bit of dribbling skills that can fascinate the fans. VDV are one touch football type of player. Just watch his game with dutch, they all play one touch football. Even if he is good with Holland, he does not fit into RM style thus making him looks like un-reliable players.
Reply to Danniel:
it's true that none of them except benzema is in VDV's class. But that isn't no one rite?? and in terms of individual talent, Ours are definitely better, But definitely not what u called "not even close" sometimes we need to look at other competitors with more objective point of view. being to biased can be misled. Our result during last couple of seasons pretty much indicates our decline in European level. La Liga is much more competitive than french liga, but if we count on the results in CL, we ain't no better than Lyon. That 's very pathetic.
Reply to RMFantasy:
regardless to his football style, he is a very talent midfielder overall. But his lack of some fancy tactics excludes him from the "best" list. however, if he can play like Frank Lampard or Steven Garrald, i guess no one will not pick on his skill to critisize him. however, he didn't show he plays at that level yet in his national games.(even in Hamburg years ago) unfortunately, he wasnt given so much chances in RM. However, i dare say he can only provide what he could provide in Hamburg, with which is still very insufficient to RM. IMO, he suits Germany football more.(i guess i had the similar mind on him with u)
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Look i believe Sneijder and Guti can be a decent CM if not a great one.
Guti played a big part in the last Galacticos as a CM.He might not have done the greatest job in the world but he was decent enough to fill that spot and earn a start.
Sneijder meanwhile might have been lacking defensively but i must say he had to play the playmaker role too in these past season with his CM position.So he had to play in the opposition's half to supply the through balls which makes him defensively unreliable.But with Kaka already playing the playmaker role, Sneijder's job on the field will be reduced significantly which we will see him participate more in defense.
And other than Alonso,can you name other REALISTIC target that is spanish to fill that role ?
*spanish is for the 6+5 rule.
Reply to flynn:
other than alonso, i would pick Xavi or inesta. it might happen thou since Valdano did mention RM will raid Barca if we have to. Since this is an open market, we can go whoever we want. If it happens, gosh..how wondrous it would be to snap another Barca player under their nose for madrid just like figo. Hala Madrid!!
Reply to themadridguy:
Los_galacticos.
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I'm also quite new to this forum, but I have already noticed that quite alot of your postings are overly provocative and occasionally overstep the line of suitable respect for fellow posters - regardless (as you say) of how experienced a poster you are.
No one is trying to "pull rank" on you and I'm not either, but I think it would be good for everyone to just get along.
Dissagreement is what these kind of forums thrive on. I respect your views on Ronaldo, Raul and VDV even though I may not share them. All I would normally expect is that you do the same back and try listen to alternate views.
This way it's much easier for us all to get along together and focus on supporting Real Madrid, rather than having everyone have to read through pages and pages of comments that aren't very enlightening for anyone (don't take this the wrong way).
Also, if you follow this behaviour as a gudieline you might find that more people would find it easier to agree with you.
You might even convince me that you're right about Raul
Reply to flynn:
Marcos Senna and xavi will be the other two Espanol who can even do better than Alonso does. But god knows that they won't be signed in a wise manner.
As for what u said about Guti, i dare say he is too unprofessional as a vice-president. He lacks of stabiliy and this is a vital part for a CM. Same kind of saying, we can't afford to take risk in such an important position. Guti, no doubt, has the best vision of passing in our squad last year. in 07-08 season, he was the key of the team. His ability to be a playmaker is even better than Sneijder in terms of maturity and passing skills. However, regardless to his age, he is not the one who is trustable. He can play like Zidane in one game but he can be disappeaered on the pitch in the next game. This is horrible. for sneijder, i agree with what u said, he can definitely focus on CM duty with kaka in front of him. he had asked Cannavaro to teach him defending skills and i really appreciate his effort. i do expect him to be the Xavi of ours. But what i am tryna say is that "IT'S STILL UNCERTAIN WHETHER HE CAN TURN OUT TO BE A DECENT CM OR HARDLY ABLE TO GET USED TO IT". it's still risky and def can't be achieved in a short period of time. If it takes him the entire season to do so, should we wait one more year for the CL come back just for this??? why don't we just stick with Gago and pray that he can become the "real" redondo certain years later?? that's why i've been emphasizing the importance of signing a decent CM. Cuz we don't have a "perfect" one. It's hard to find the perfect one, but if we wanna be the best, we gotta try to get the best. Especially when we have to challenge a team like barca, the best in the world. We gotta have some advantage of ours. This year, we can acquire two of the best attackers in the world. And this is a great chance for us to get back to where we were. Why don't we just tryna get the best out of that??
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
it's not so wise to take risk on some minor thing that can possibly get the great opportunity for our bounceback slipped over again.
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Honestly - I'm not sure about Van Der Vaart - I don't think I've seen enough of him even now!
One the one hand he appears to be able to deliver the goods on ball control, passing, shooting and free kicks. Some might justifiably dissagree, but I think maybe the system is wrong for him rather than him not being good enough.
i dont want madrid to buy alonso...id rather get Cesc Fab..or Keep Sneijder...
Reply to EvoLtc:
Face it- the chap couldn't handle the heat!!
What no. has Kaka chosen for himself then?? The kit he will wear tomorrow at the presentation will have a no. , won't it??
What??
I didn't know today was the birthday of grandpa Raul!
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
If you read what I said "Besides Benzema and maybe Lloris...Lyon don't have a single player who's VDV's level" so that is exacty what I said
As for individual talent I do say that our players aren't even close to Lyon's...and to me them doing equally good as us in the Champions League is very worrysome...but as I said...Lyon's individual talent isn't close to R.Madrids...inevery area of the pitch.
Reply to Danniel:
actually, i do agree that none of their players are apparently at the same level of VDV except Benzema and Lloris. But mate, I aske u becuase he had said "NONE" of their player...is in VDV's level and this is why my curiosity is provoked.
But then regarding to individual talent, honestly, we CANNOT say "each area of the pitch".
remember, if we were talking the "lyon" in last several years, their midfield performs better than ours(if Robben and Robinho were counted as forward in the 4-3-3) in terms of creativity. but yes indeed, we have a better backline(in which no one knows how to defend set piece) and a better frontline(only when RVN is included) in terms of individual talent.
let's face it!....even if raul is using a cane he will be in the starting XI and that is just sad...BIG TIME
Reply to realfreak:
that was a reply to los galacticos about grandpa raul's birthday
Reply to realfreak:
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Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Sorry mate but I can't understand the difference between what you're saying in the first point.
Once again...their midfield performs better as a team...but individually they don't have any players who are at Lass,Diarra,VDV & Sneijder's level...and I think that's a big problem...because individually our midfield is better...but in reality theirs is equal or better.So it's either unbalanced or our team hasn't had enough time gelling together...I think both are the case
Reply to Daniel:
don't matter mate!! im just tryna share wut i thought since i saw u said none of them is as good as vdv.(i thought u excluded Benze and Juni) it's okay.
, we still showed nothing in CL games. Even though they played like a team a year ago, we still got beaten twice by a team like Roma that ain't even considered to be a CL winning team...we still can go farther. That's why i've emphasizing my enjoying seeing some classic players' arrivals. i really appreciate that and really set my expectation higher compared with last few years. I know u might notice them i am also one of those who keeps saying that "we gotta play like a team". but honestly, better players are indeed more likely to bring about better results.
technically, i agree with ur point. But what frustrates me is that even when our team has a pretty gd form(07/0
now, ireally hope that we can further strengthen our midfield, which i look as the most important factor to dominate a game. we gotta have a midfield that can be able to challenge barca's, which is considered to be the best in the world. and i really hope Javier Mascherano not to go to Barca.....what do u think?
Guys, i do not know whether its me or the transfer rumors has gotten into my head. IMO perez has made a huge mistake revealing our two superstars signing in his debut as President. Its seems to me that all the players RM try to bring in encounter hiccup!!
Other clubs try to fork out RM money because they think they can strike gold just like Ronaldo and Kaka. Like Villa saga, first Valencia want to cash in then suddenly hey change their mind. Same goes to Ribery thou. If only Perez has bought all the players in our weak position first then present Kaka & Ronaldo at the end, I think it would be much easier.
Since everybody in this blog agreed that RM really need a LB, who do you think a club would sell to RM in a decent price?? Surely all of them try to play black jack with us hoping to stuck mega deal for their players. Honestly, these are my humble opinion that Perez has made his 1st mistake and i myself is not an economist nor master in transfer market but just a fan who is concern
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Yeah but playing like a team in my view is not only like in Capello's reign...where the team was united etc...
In my view really paying like a team is creating a team which spends atleast 5/6yrs together and making few canges yearly...such as teams like barca,man u and liverpool.In my view Perez still has a chance to do this if he buys a good left back..and sells just a FEW players.(Robben is not one of them)
Reply to Danniel:
everyone knows it takes time to develop a great team. BUt the most important team to develop a system and a playing style with a team is that "U GOTTA HAVE GOOD PLAYERS", the better ingredients u use, the better the cuisine is made. 2nd tier players only can form a 2nd tier team no matter how long they've been sticking in the same team.
Barca and Man Utd are def not built up in 1 or 2 yrs, but more important, their succuession CAN'T be brought about without GOOD PLAYERS. to bulid up a team, u gotta have the decent players first. U can say those we stuck at for last couple of seasons were "POTENTIAL" or sth, but these kind of "VAGUE" potential thing can't give us impact like what Ronaldinho, Deco, and Eto did to barca.
So the most essential elements to build up a champions team is---- good players. The better the players u have in hand, the faster the good result u could get.
Capello had re-united the team but the players he had in hand was so limited. i do believe we could have been better if he stuck with us IF and ONLY IF he could be the one who decided who's to buy in the transfer market instead of Mijatovic and Caderon.
As for now, the most important thing is to buy a left back and TO TRAIN OUR DEFENDERS TO LEARN TO DEFEND AS A UNIT BUT NOT INDIVIDUALLY. that's the biggest problem of our backline overall. they suck at defending set piece and fail to cover up each other most of the time. This is sth i look forward to. i also would like to see him stay if no addtional attackers are signed. But i would expect to see him prove his passing skills and get less injuries. That's just the pain in our butt. He has the ability to dribble through 2 to 3 defenders but can end up waste the valuable chance by smacking the ball himself in a very inappropriate manner. further, i will see Xabi's signing as the key to decide whether or not to make Robben stay.
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
I agree abou everthing mate
but the Dutch cotingent aren't 2nd tier players...so they should all stay in my view.In addition, I expect Robben to be much better this year (if he stays) because this year he won't be marked by two or three players in each match (like the game against Liverpool) but probably won't be marked at all because of Kaka & Ronaldo's sigings.
Reply to Danniel:
instead of referring to the "dutch clan", i will like to look at them individually. At least, VDV and Drenthe have to leave. Sneijder, Huntelaar, and Robben are def not 2 tier. i i would like to see them stay too.
As For Robben, let's look at him in this way. IMO, how many markers he's gonna have around is the big deal. the most important i wanna point out is: HE HAS TO CHANGE THE WAY TO PLAY IF HE WANTS TO STAY IN THE START XI. AND IF HE KEEPS PLAYING LIKE HE USED TO BE. HE CAN NEVER BECOME THE KEY OF A TEAM, IN ANY TEAM. cuz he lacks of the most important element-----to know how to cop with ur teammates. in this regard, take a look at Iniesta, Robinho, Ribery, Silva, and maybe Messi. Compare to them, Robben also has explosive speed and dribbling skills. But what's missing?? Robben didn't play like he was in a team. He just dance by himself without even looking at others. His dribble destroy the flow of the possession and the rhythm most of the time. Robinho maybe slower than Robben but the brazilian knows how to dance around his teammate and always knows where to pass when he got marked tightly. Contrastly, Robben only dances by himself and always extends the distance between him and the "helpers" around. That's why he always ended up dispossessed whenever he couldn't dribble through. Most often, he just could pass "backward" when his passing space is blocked. I just don't understand why he never tryna carry around with some spin move to look for some open man while he had the ability to cut in. This is something i look up to in a coach point of view. Since Pellegrini is likely to play possession football----something we SHOULD play IMO----we should concern to get some decent passers rather than just blindly dribble. I would like to see if Robben can be able to "STOP" and "PASS" rather than to blindly dribble and shoot in a very predictable way.
Its easy to buy the best players and then win.IT takes knowledge to find a future talent and make a player out of him.Thats what youre manager doesnt have!
P.S. i love kaka but C.Ronaldo is an asshole