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Real Madrid Sign Kaka & Xabi Alonso?

Sunday, 31 May 09, 02:33 AM · Comments (76)

Kaka to Real Madrid

AS confirms that Florentino Perez has indeed reached an agreement with AC Milan over Brazilian superstar Kaka who will sign a five-year contract and will earn €9,120,000 a year at the Santiago Bernabeu.

This means that Kaka will say goodbye to his fans when Milan face Fiorentina this evening. During his six seasons with Milan, Kaka played in 192 games and scored 62 goals.This is not extraordinary, but it is impressive nonetheless.

He played a key role in Milan's Champions League triumph and was the competition's top-goal-scorer. He also won the Balon d'Or and the FIFA Player of the Year award. However, his form has dropped in the last couple of seasons. Still, he is a world-class attacking midfielder and will hopefully add value to the team. I'm really looking forward to seeing him in the famous white shirt. We'll hopefully bring Ribery and possibly Cristiano Ronaldo. In addition to Robben, we'll have many options in the midfield and we'll be able to play at a high level.

This must hurts for Calderon because he tried hopelessly to sign Kaka but failed. Heck, he even failed to sign any of the players he had promised to bring (except Robben). Senor Calderon, this is how stuff is done -- learn from Perez.

Another player who looks to be definitely coming is Liverpool's Xabi Alonso. Sport says that the initial fee is €25 million, and the English club is looking to bring Gabriel Heinze to the Anfield (which is good news for us, Gabi has been performing like crap this season).

Personally, I like Alonso and I think he is the type of player we need. He'll have the assistance of Lass and Diarra in the midfield. However, this will complicate things for Gago whom I think should be loaned out. I really can't see us depending on Gago anymore If we want to play at the level teams like Barcelona and Manchester United are playing.

All of this could mean that a player or two need to be offloaded. I've heard rumors of Sneijder, Van der vaart, Drenthe, and Javi Garcia all going to other clubs. I still would like Sneijder and Van der vaart to stay. I think the ideal thing we need to do is just to loan them. They can improve elsewhere and we can bring them back whenever we want.

Just to remind you, nothing is official yet, but keep watching for official announcments in the next few days....

Hala Madrid

Hala Madrid!

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Bonjourgehhy
1. Bonjourgehhy Wrote: | 09.38BST | May 31, 2009

I'm all for Kaka and Xabi Alonso coming to Real. Hoping for the real deal.

flynn
2. flynn Wrote: | 11.03BST | May 31, 2009

i dont think signing both Alonso and Kaka would be good for Madrid.First of all,they play in two completely different formations.Secondly,if a coach managed to put them in one formation,that would naturally means a winger/forward would be sacrificed in that formation.and i dont think that spells out "attractive play" which Perez is promoting.

Sneijder should be given a chance rather than splashing out money for someone else.plus,i remember recalling someone with a goatee saying he doesnt want to part with Xabi.

i love football
3. i love football Wrote: | 11.56BST | May 31, 2009

real should keep robben he has bin together with hiquain our best player this season. When real bring ribery and our team starts to play good football again robben wil start playing even better so selling robben would be stupid

DanA
4. DanA Wrote: | 13.31BST | May 31, 2009

I disagree with you Flyn. I think a midfield of Lass, Alonso and Kaka would work well with the popular 4-2-3-1 formation that Liverpool amongst others are using successfully.

Lass = Masherano
Alonso = Alonso
Kaka = Gerrard

Seems to me those three would work very well together.

brhoc
5. brhoc Wrote: | 13.57BST | May 31, 2009

this sounds like any other joke I've been hearing. well I'll like to see what will happen, but for now halla madrid

Jan
6. Jan Wrote: | 14.07BST | May 31, 2009

You're mad. We don't need Kakà, we need Ribery. What's more, Gago, Sneijder and Van Der Vaart must stay, no one has to be loaned out.

vr2bw-kash
7. vr2bw-kash Wrote: | 14.14BST | May 31, 2009

you can have kaka just leave alonso alone he belongs those who love him in liverpool and always will

Danniel
8. Danniel Wrote: | 14.21BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to Jan:

You're mad. We don't need Kakà, we need Ribery. What's more, Gago, Sneijder and Van Der Vaart must stay, no one has to be loaned out.

I can't agree with you any better...it's stupid saying Sneijder and VDV should be loaned...cause they won't.They will either stay or leave.Kaka will be opening the door for BOTH to leave I'm sure of it.

flynn
9. flynn Wrote: | 15.12BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to DanA:

I disagree with you Flyn. I think a midfield of Lass, Alonso and Kaka would work well with the popular 4-2-3-1 formation that Liverpool amongst others are using successfully.

Lass = Masherano
Alonso = Alonso
Kaka = Gerrard

Seems to me those three would work...

yeah but Higuain will suffer because he cant play as a lone striker and turning him into a winger would misuse his abilities.would Madrid want to throw away a great young talent in their hands ?

i think it would be much better to sign just one and develop the players that we already have like Sneijder,Parejo,Gago and possibly Granero who's been performing wonderfully well with Getafe.

Adambader
10. Adambader Wrote: | 15.23BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to Jan:

You're mad. We don't need Kakà, we need Ribery. What's more, Gago, Sneijder and Van Der Vaart must stay, no one has to be loaned out.

I'm not mad. We need Kaka because Sneijder and VDV have been out of form. We need Kaka because he can change games. Plus, we need Ribery because we need him on the left wing. With Robben, and Ribery on the wings we can have that width we always lacked.

Sneijder, Van der vaart, and Gago need to be loaned if they can't compete for a place or don't want to be benched. It would be a pity to see them warming the bench. And it would be a pity to see them play and not helping the team. Do you really thing that Gago can be relied upon in crucial matches? I personally prefer the two Diarras over him. Bottom line is, if those guys are okay with being benched and competing, then they are welcome to stay.

trooper
11. trooper Wrote: | 16.01BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to flynn:

Reply to DanA:

I disagree with you Flyn. I think a midfield of Lass, Alonso and Kaka would work well with the popular 4-2-3-1 formation that Liverpool amongst others are using successfully.

Lass = Masherano
Alonso = Alonso
Kaka = Gerrard

Seems to me those three would work...

yeah but Higuain will suffer because he cant play as a lone striker and turning him into a winger would misuse his abilities.would Madrid want to throw away a great young talent in their hands ?

i think it would be much better to sign just one and develop the players that we already...

dude u got to be kiddin me!!!! the last time higuain played as a lone striker end up scoring 4 goals in same match against malaga!!!and if we go further back to santiago benabue trophy he again scored two vital goals playin as a lone striker...in simple higuain is ballo de ore next year

matt
12. matt Wrote: | 17.01BST | May 31, 2009

I am "appalled" at people wanting Gago,VDV to stay.
Gago is a shit player.Along with Heinze,Raul and some other players he has been the cause of Real Madrid's disintegration into a 2nd tier team.
Don't u watch football folks?
Also I think Ribery will be hard to get, as Bayern Munich's manager said the other day that his transfer fee is 100 million euros!?
I am still not convinced that Alonso will be sold by Rafa;seems highly unlikely. Why do AS and Marca keep on playing with our feelings? =D

One player who is definitely coming to Madrid now is C.Ronaldo. Perez has said that he was the ideal replacement for Beckham and should have been signed by Madrid a long time ago.
And knowing how Perez likes money-generating, shirt-selling players like Beckham, I am sure that Ronaldo will be signed by Perez this summer. :P

We need to turn our attention to signing players like Bruno Alves,Lahm,Maicon also.
How the f*** did Chelsea get hold of both Zhirkov and Ancellotti??

Madridista4
13. Madridista4 Wrote: | 17.06BST | May 31, 2009

Carlo Ancelotti has confirmed he will be leaving ac milan but does not know where he will coach next season but all signs are pointing to chelsea.. but who would you Madridistas rather have Manuel Pellegrini or Carlo Ancelotti as our coach ?

ronaldo
14. ronaldo Wrote: | 17.16BST | May 31, 2009

I will go for 2 time CL winning Ancelotti any day! =D

losblancos_dxb
15. losblancos_dxb Wrote: | 17.18BST | May 31, 2009

Well I dont believe anything. I am not going unless I see the OFFICIAL confirmation on Goal.com or realmadrid.com.

But I saw Kaka play against Fiorentina today and Ribery against Stuttgart a few weeks back and can strongly say they will more than solve our problems in midfield. Between the two I would choose Kaka obviously.

And Alonso, personally, I dont rate him that highly. He is good but I dont think he'll offer us much.

trooper
16. trooper Wrote: | 17.33BST | May 31, 2009

i am still not convinced with either ancelotti or pelligrini!!!ancelloti is a master tactition probably better than mourinho in my opinion but a lousy motivator and have a habit of playin aged players on the other side peligrini is also a marvelous coach but villareal defence sucks just like madrid>>>i see him shuster's clone nothin special and have u noticed somethin that his style of play in the only counter to barca philosophy ever exist but he will need to have player of his choice in order to produce results not perez chosen one

realmadrid
17. realmadrid Wrote: | 18.22BST | May 31, 2009

What a fool's goal Casillas let in there! That was horrible! Casillas is not the world's best anymore, he is overrated.
Robben only dances around in a circle. He is totally ineffective.

trooper
18. trooper Wrote: | 18.30BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to realmadrid:

What a fool's goal Casillas let in there! That was horrible! Casillas is not the world's best anymore, he is overrated.
Robben only dances around in a circle. He is totally ineffective.

wow dude u rates player on daily basis i guess!!!!yesterday he was world class today he is overrated!!!take my advice stop wactchin football

real madrid
19. real madrid Wrote: | 18.43BST | May 31, 2009

i think ramos should put robben on the left again i think he than can show us again how good he is cause he barly gets bals on the right. And he can feed raul and hiquain better with bals on the left.

Danniel
20. Danniel Wrote: | 18.57BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to Adambader:

Reply to Jan:

You're mad. We don't need Kakà, we need Ribery. What's more, Gago, Sneijder and Van Der Vaart must stay, no one has to be loaned out.

I'm not mad. We need Kaka because Sneijder and VDV have been out of form. We need Kaka because he can change games. Plus, we need Ribery because we need him on the left wing. With Robben, and Ribery on the wings we can have that width we always lacked.

Sneijder, Van der vaart, and Gago...

Adam I've been saying this for a long time...did either Sneijder OR VDV play a SINGLE game where they like to play most this season?Before this season when Sneijder played in the Euros he played in his preferred position and left everybody stunned.So if Kaka comes we are going to arrange all our tactics in order to siut him...and we didn't do the same for Sneijder and VDV.I don't think that's fair and I also don't think that's realistic...if kaka comes I don't know what will happen because i really can't imagine real madrid playing my preferred formation 4-2-3-1.What I'm anticipating though is this formation...4-1-3-2...if this happens we will get beaten...BADLY.

Now about Sneijder,VDV and gago.Imagine you were the player....knowing that half the big teams would do anything to get you...would you go out on a loan so that whenever R.Madrid decide they need you back they'll get you?I find this very unrealistic

pellos
21. pellos Wrote: | 19.18BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to real madrid :

i think ramos should put robben on the left again i think he than can show us again how good he is cause he barly gets bals on the right. And he can feed raul and hiquain better with bals on the left.

Well Ramos has no idea what is going on. He is a terrible coach, so what you should expect is do nothing at all :p

trooper
22. trooper Wrote: | 19.23BST | May 31, 2009

afterall totenham fans were right about rAMOS he sucks!!!!wel will any one tell me what raul wants ????for me he is the worst thing ever happened to real madrid....

pellos
23. pellos Wrote: | 19.26BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to matt:

I am "appalled" at people wanting Gago,VDV to stay.
Gago is a shit player.Along with Heinze,Raul and some other players he has been the cause of Real Madrid's disintegration into a 2nd tier team.
Don't u watch football folks?
Also I think Ribery will be hard to get, as Bayern...

they got them because they are moving fast, while on the other hand we are holding elections.

I tottally agree with you...everybody keeps saying but I find it be extremely hard to get a hold of players like those. Is not like a few years when teams sold their best players for 50 million or so. Like zidane ronaldo or figo. If milan sold kaka...(and they already sold gurcuff) they will have nothing. they wont sell their best player. Ribery for 100 million that is way to much.

I think we should get ronaldinho. 2 years ago everybody loved him, now all have forgotten him. Well with a good coach and if you build a team around him he can be nurtured back to the best player he used to be. He is still quite young too. We dont need xavi alonso. He is good but we dont need him, sneijder can be as good as him. Just keep playing him.

As for left back we should get the brazilian Kleber, he is really good, and an attacking midfielder nilmar. that is ofcourse if the big names dont come...and I find it quite unlikely that they will.

trooper
24. trooper Wrote: | 19.45BST | May 31, 2009

woooooooooowww hunetelaar red card!!!now this is interestin

Madridista4
25. Madridista4 Wrote: | 19.55BST | May 31, 2009

We lost again we gifted the game to Osasuna and I cannot believe Real Betis are relegated .. but three teams that are promoted are Xerez,Zaragoza, and Tenerife I believe.. Official Announcement is coming that Florentino Perez will be sworn in as President tomorrow on Monday

Danniel
26. Danniel Wrote: | 19.59BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to trooper:

woooooooooowww hunetelaar red card!!!now this is interestin

It might determine weather he stays or not ;)

Danniel
27. Danniel Wrote: | 20.01BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to Madridista4:

We lost again we gifted the game to Osasuna and I cannot believe Real Betis are relegated .. but three teams that are promoted are Xerez,Zaragoza, and Tenerife I believe.. Official Announcement is coming that Florentino Perez will be sworn in as President tomorrow on Monday

They weren't relegated since Numancia lost and Huelva and Sporting drew. ;)

john
28. john Wrote: | 20.04BST | May 31, 2009

Yeah it is sad that Real Betis got relegated. They were one of the exciting names in La Liga. And this is all becuz of Real Madrid, why we lost to such a crap side? Osasuna deserved to go down, not Betis. I'd rather watch RM vs Real Betis, than RM vs Osasuna any day! :D

john
29. john Wrote: | 20.11BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to Danniel:

Reply to trooper:

woooooooooowww hunetelaar red card!!!now this is interestin

It might determine weather he stays or not ;)

That'd be harsh on Hunter.He did not deserve a red card, let alone a yellow. He is frustrated 'cuz Ramos gives him very few minutes on the pitch. I think Raul has conspired to isolate Hunter in the team, that's why nobody seems to want to pass the ball to him.
Give the man some credit, he has scored 8 goals in the few games he has played. That's not bad considering he came in January.
Where was Raul in the whole match? Did anyone even notice him? He was totally invisible, ineffective and was infact a drag on the team.
RAUL GONZALEZ- U SUCK DIPSHIT!

Adambader
30. Adambader Wrote: | 20.12BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to john:

Reply to Danniel:
Reply to trooper:

woooooooooowww hunetelaar red card!!!now this is interestin

It might determine weather he stays or not ;)

That'd be harsh on Hunter.He did not deserve a red card, let alone a yellow. He is frustrated 'cuz Ramos gives him very few minutes on the pitch. I think Raul has conspired to isolate Hunter in the team, that's why nobody seems to want to pass the ball to him.
Give the man some credit, he has...

Raul was there giving the ball away to Osasuna. =D

ts
31. ts Wrote: | 20.13BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to Danniel:

Reply to Madridista4:

We lost again we gifted the game to Osasuna and I cannot believe Real Betis are relegated .. but three teams that are promoted are Xerez,Zaragoza, and Tenerife I believe.. Official Announcement is coming that Florentino Perez will be sworn in as President tomorrow on Monday

They weren't relegated since Numancia lost and Huelva and Sporting drew. ;)

LOL! Sporting won 2-1. Don't post if u don't know! Don't spread disinformation around. 8O

Shaker
32. Shaker Wrote: | 20.22BST | May 31, 2009

I`m the biggest real madrid fan in the whole world.
I think in real, all real madrid need to change, from the root. not just players must be gone, not just player must be buy..who agree with me???

Danniel
33. Danniel Wrote: | 20.32BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to ts:

Reply to Danniel:
Reply to Madridista4:

We lost again we gifted the game to Osasuna and I cannot believe Real Betis are relegated .. but three teams that are promoted are Xerez,Zaragoza, and Tenerife I believe.. Official Announcement is coming that Florentino Perez will be sworn in as President tomorrow on Monday

They weren't relegated since Numancia lost and Huelva and Sporting drew. ;)

LOL! Sporting won 2-1. Don't post if u don't know! Don't spread disinformation around. 8O

:? ok sorry as if I intentionally tried posting wrong information around.What happened was that on eurosport's website the result is still 1-1 and Betis are still out of the relegation zone :?

Adrian
34. Adrian Wrote: | 21.22BST | May 31, 2009

I would like Ribery more but Kaka is solid. The player i want the most is Xavi but that will never happen.

realfreak
35. realfreak Wrote: | 21.25BST | May 31, 2009

hahahaha...gos it sickens me to see him play now. he's so slow and lacking skill.
But looks like the worst of them is on his way out.
There is a God!
LINK

realfreak
36. realfreak Wrote: | 21.25BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to realfreak:

hahahaha...gos it sickens me to see him play now. he's so slow and lacking skill.
But looks like the worst of them is on his way out.
There is a God!...

that was my reply to adam's last post

Madridista4
37. Madridista4 Wrote: | 21.37BST | May 31, 2009

So Florentino Perez will be sworn in as President tommorow at 12 CET is that correct

TheAngelOfMadrid
38. TheAngelOfMadrid Wrote: | 21.39BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to trooper:

afterall totenham fans were right about rAMOS he sucks!!!!wel will any one tell me what raul wants ????for me he is the worst thing ever happened to real madrid....

OMFG! What is wrong with all of you? Let me remind you why Juande was the brought in the first place, to ensure us a CL spot, he did more, he set up a title fight. Okay, sure, he might not be good enough but your comment stresses my argument which is that Real Madrid and its fans think no end of themselves. Juande set records in case you didn't notice. Let the guy leave in peace, I salute him for a job well done. Hala Madrid!

Caracoleo
39. Caracoleo Wrote: | 21.59BST | May 31, 2009

Juande is a good pro. But NOT Real Madrid material. If you are happy with lowering your standards - fine. Not me.

Gago should be loaned. Why? Is he good enough, or not? Make up your mind.

What is the point in keeping all the Dutch contingent. They are the ones that let us down. I feel that most of them couldn't handle the pressure. Since this is the post Galactico generation, I guess this is to some extent understandable. But they failed to rise to the occasion. I would only keep one Dutch player, and Robben is not that player. We haven't seen the best of him for ages. He goes missing so much, and gets led up blind alleys so easily.

Kaka has been a great player, but I am worried we are getting a version of Kaka that is already on the downward slope. And if he's going to be our Steven Gerrard, or our Lionel Messi, that worries me.

Of course, the biggest problem is the coach. Pellegrini is most likely. He's done a good job at Villareal. But we need someone who's got a little bit of nastiness. Someone ready to kick some ass, ignore the demands of the fans, drop a few of our favourite players - really show everyone who is the boss. Is Pellegrini that man?

Interestingly, this is exactly what Lauerent Blanc did when he was named manager of Bordeaux. He called the players back from Holiday and got them training early. He singled out a few ring leaders and made sure they knew he wasn't taking any crap. I think he's done really well.

Dammit, where have all the real men gone?


TheAngelOfMadrid
40. TheAngelOfMadrid Wrote: | 22.15BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to Caracoleo:

Juande is a good pro. But NOT Real Madrid material. If you are happy with lowering your standards - fine. Not me.

Gago should be loaned. Why? Is he good enough, or not? Make up your mind.

What is the point in keeping all the Dutch contingent. They are the ones that let us...

Totally agree, well said. I think we should keep Robben, Sneijder and Huntelaar out of the Dutch contingent though. RVN can be kept too since he's still lethal. Blanc is the man we need, Pellegrini doesn't convince me at all. I just want all these haters Juande leave in peace, he did a pretty good job after all.

Madridista4
41. Madridista4 Wrote: | 22.50BST | May 31, 2009

Its 12 in Spain and its officialy June 1st and the deadline has passed for Candidates and that leaves us with just Florentino Perez as the only qualified candidate to take over.. So Florentino Perez is OFFICIALY PRESIDENT OF REAL MADRID.. HALA MADRID!!

realfreak
42. realfreak Wrote: | 22.53BST | May 31, 2009

Reply to Madridista4:

Its 12 in Spain and its officialy June 1st and the deadline has passed for Candidates and that leaves us with just Florentino Perez as the only qualified candidate to take over.. So Florentino Perez is OFFICIALY PRESIDENT OF REAL MADRID.. HALA MADRID!!

WOO-HOO.....now I'll wait till raul is a goner to throw up the confetti

anyath
43. anyath Wrote: | 22.55BST | May 31, 2009

Instead of Kaka , he should focus on Ronaldo. he is younger than Kaka and worth the investment. Can play as winger and forward. Kaka form has dropped for two years now...

40 MM euros is too much money for ribery..

i soccerfan
44. i soccerfan Wrote: | 23.03BST | May 31, 2009

i think we should keep robben en rvn from the dutchties. I mean we al have seen how good robben can be and sure the last couple of games he didn't play good but we should not forget that the whole team doesn' t play good and you can't expect robben to play good than. If robben would play in man u i am convinced that he would be as good as c.ronaldo. and rvn is old but he still is an amzing striker and maby he shouldn't be a starter but having him on the bench would be a really good feeling knowing we would have someone on the bench who is actucaly worldclass

Madridista4
45. Madridista4 Wrote: | 23.16BST | May 31, 2009

Florentino Perez will be unveiled tommorow at 1300 CET at the Santiago Bernabeu

chizy5
46. chizy5 Wrote: | 23.44BST | May 31, 2009

Raul sucks and he was playing sheet against osasuna did you see him. Ramos did not substitute him instead he took robben out that has ben his down fall he should just go an draul must just retire. i honestly do not see him playing in the first 11 next season and cant be captain at all please if madrid is seroius then get rid of this raul or play second fiddle to barcelona again remember pepe is banned for four games already this is very crucial once we lety barcelona on top then we might never catch up remember this whole season madrid spent time on anticipating a barca downfall and never happened.so be warned we need a coach right now to start preparing the team

realfreak
47. realfreak Wrote: | 00.36BST | Jun 1, 2009

Reply to Madridista4:

Florentino Perez will be unveiled tommorow at 1300 CET at the Santiago Bernabeu

:\ It's beautiful =D

broto
48. broto Wrote: | 04.05BST | Jun 1, 2009

hoping to see the biggest names in football in my favourite club within the next 2 months .........
hope for all success of the galacticos in the seasons to come.........

TheAngelOfMadrid
49. TheAngelOfMadrid Wrote: | 04.44BST | Jun 1, 2009

For the first time in ages, Real Madrid will NOT be in the first drum of the CL draw :\ I hope Calderon and Mijatovic get what they deserve for doing this. We will however have a massive draw because of this with an English team very likely to be our opposition. Next year is going to be interesting. Hala Madrid!

afshaar
50. afshaar Wrote: | 06.09BST | Jun 1, 2009

Kaka as rightly pointed out is out of form and if rumors be true then more than 9m Euros a season would be very expensive salary. And obviously AC Milan would not sell him cheap.

And Pellegrini doesn't seem to be the one who can play hardball with the boardroom guys.

DynastyofRealMadrid
51. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 06.25BST | Jun 1, 2009

i personally wouldn't take kaka as our priority but i would oppose to sign such a great player. for those who opposed to sign kaka, I won't say anything cuz i dare say u will see what the meaning of getting a "world-class" player is once the brazilian can really arrive in bernabeu. I can't stand for some stupid comments saying that we don't need kaka just because we have VDV, Sneijder, and Gago. In terms of level, none of them is close enough to compare with a FIFA player of the year. Gago SHOULD BE loaned out if he doesn't wanna be benched. VDV is out of form and both him and Sneijder(whom i think have most potential to improve in the future) CAN'T provide what Kaka can simply provide to his team. for me, it's simple, if we wanna surpass other giants in Europe(most of them are obviously much stronger than we are), we gotta have some better players in our team. it's not the matter of whether or not we NEED a guy like kaka, it matters whether signing someone like kaka can strengthen our team or not. furthermore, saying Xabi alonso and kaka can't play together is totally non-sense. One CM and a 2nd striker can' t play together?? what the heck is going wrong in ur mind?? higuain shouldn't play as a winger in a 4-4-2 formation, but if u look at how Barca play Eto at their 4-3-3, or 4-5-1, u will understand what i mean. Even if we sign david villa, we still can start kaka, higuain, ribery, and villa all together without overlapping. it only depends on how the next coach is gonna work things out. players like kaka, higuain, villa, and ribery should be given FIXED position. they can give us a superb lineup if they are given enough freedom.

flynn
52. flynn Wrote: | 06.39BST | Jun 1, 2009

Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:

Reply to Caracoleo:

Juande is a good pro. But NOT Real Madrid material. If you are happy with lowering your standards - fine. Not me.

Gago should be loaned. Why? Is he good enough, or not? Make up your mind.

What is the point in keeping all the Dutch contingent. They are the ones that let us...

Totally agree, well said. I think we should keep Robben, Sneijder and Huntelaar out of the Dutch contingent though. RVN can be kept too since he's still lethal. Blanc is the man we need, Pellegrini doesn't convince me at all. I just want all these haters Juande leave in peace, he did a pretty good...

Blanc might be a good young coach but his only experience is in Ligue 1 which is no where near La Liga.that might be a problem as he would need time to settle to the spanish league.
even if we compare the track record of Blanc and Pellegrini in Champions League,we can clearly see who is the better coach.

better yet,Pellegrini doesnt stick to the same lineup every matchday.he uses the rotation system close to perfection.this means that no player can get his way with the coach.

DynastyofRealMadrid
53. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 07.23BST | Jun 1, 2009

Reply to Danniel:

Reply to Adambader:
Reply to Jan:

You're mad. We don't need Kakà, we need Ribery. What's more, Gago, Sneijder and Van Der Vaart must stay, no one has to be loaned out.

I'm not mad. We need Kaka because Sneijder and VDV have been out of form. We need Kaka because he can change games. Plus, we need Ribery because we need him on the left wing. With Robben, and Ribery on the wings we can have that width we always lacked.

Sneijder, Van der vaart, and Gago...

Adam I've been saying this for a long time...did either Sneijder OR VDV play a SINGLE game where they like to play most this season?Before this season when Sneijder played in the Euros he played in his preferred position and left everybody stunned.So if Kaka comes we are going to arrange all our...

simple, just go make a single comparison b4 u said something UNFAIR. there is no such a thing!! who is better between kaka, vdv, and sneijder?? i don't see anything except for free kick that the dutchmen can be as gd as kaka. Can Sneijder and VDV dribble through couple players with their skill and speed?? i don't see it so far. so there is no such a thing about whether it's fair or not. It's only fair to put the BETTER players in the lineup.

speaking about their form or preference position. I can tell u that both of these duthcmen had been put in the CM position in several games, especially sneijder who had been out later due to injury. SO don't say that they have NOT played in their what so called favorable position.

Further, let's forget about how their forms are now or how they are "UNFAIRLY" treated in real madrid. They were STILL NOT in kaka's level when they were in their top forms, whether in Ajax or Hamburg. for me, i prefer Diego or Deco to them, soit is so stupid to close the door for kaka who is still considered as one of the top 5(at least) in the world ONLY beacuse we have two average attacking midfielder(they are good, but kaka is one of the best).

the funniest thing about what i've seen is the 4-2-3-1 formation, with which, i dare say Kaka and Messi will be the best 2 to perform as no 10 role in this formation in the world. Unrealistic?? have u seen any AC milan match these several years. Even alexander pato can score like crazy playing along with kaka. getting beaten badly??? mate!! how would u know that?? whether kaka can come or not is still uncertain...!!! the only thing i've known so far is that we have ALREADY got beaten "BADLY" so many times this year with gorgeous gago.

DynastyofRealMadrid
54. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 07.25BST | Jun 1, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Reply to Danniel:
Reply to Adambader:

I'm not mad. We need Kaka because Sneijder and VDV have been out of form. We need Kaka because he can change games. Plus, we need Ribery because we need him on the left wing. With Robben, and Ribery on the wings we can have that width we always lacked.

Sneijder, Van der vaart, and Gago...

Adam I've been saying this for a long time...did either Sneijder OR VDV play a SINGLE game where they like to play most this season?Before this season when Sneijder played in the Euros he played in his preferred position and left everybody stunned.So if Kaka comes we are going to arrange all our...

simple, just go make a single comparison b4 u said something UNFAIR. there is no such a thing!! who is better between kaka, vdv, and sneijder?? i don't see anything except for free kick that the dutchmen can be as gd as kaka. Can Sneijder and VDV dribble through couple players with their skill and...

just take a look at the assisst kaka provided to pato at yesterday's game against fiorentina. and simply ask urself whether or not vdv and sneijder can do the same thing. then conclude whether choosing kaka ahead of them is a BETTER idea or not.

DynastyofRealMadrid
55. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 07.29BST | Jun 1, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to Danniel:

Adam I've been saying this for a long time...did either Sneijder OR VDV play a SINGLE game where they like to play most this season?Before this season when Sneijder played in the Euros he played in his preferred position and left everybody stunned.So if Kaka comes we are going to arrange all our...

simple, just go make a single comparison b4 u said something UNFAIR. there is no such a thing!! who is better between kaka, vdv, and sneijder?? i don't see anything except for free kick that the dutchmen can be as gd as kaka. Can Sneijder and VDV dribble through couple players with their skill and...

just take a look at the assisst kaka provided to pato at yesterday's game against fiorentina. and simply ask urself whether or not vdv and sneijder can do the same thing. then conclude whether choosing kaka ahead of them is a BETTER idea or not.

the only reason we should concern about signing kaka is his age and downslope form like Caracoleo said. It's definitely not because of the dutch duo. think about if they REALLY haven't given a single game with their preferable position or not. I dare say it's more than 5 times for both of them(although vdv wasn't a starter on those games).

rm
56. rm Wrote: | 08.57BST | Jun 1, 2009

Now that Perez is the President,can we please hear which players he is gonna sign and the coach?
All the rumours are driving me crazy.Perez please put an end to all the speculation and announce your grand plans for Real Madrid. How many times have I heard- "Kaka/Ronaldo to come to Madrid", and after that-" Kaka rubbishes Madrid talk, Ronaldo: My Real dream is over, I am happy at Manchester"!
Can the press plz shut the f*** up??
Perez plz announce ur plans asap.

Danniel
57. Danniel Wrote: | 09.41BST | Jun 1, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to Danniel:

Adam I've been saying this for a long time...did either Sneijder OR VDV play a SINGLE game where they like to play most this season?Before this season when Sneijder played in the Euros he played in his preferred position and left everybody stunned.So if Kaka comes we are going to arrange all our...

simple, just go make a single comparison b4 u said something UNFAIR. there is no such a thing!! who is better between kaka, vdv, and sneijder?? i don't see anything except for free kick that the dutchmen can be as gd as kaka. Can Sneijder and VDV dribble through couple players with their skill and...

just take a look at the assisst kaka provided to pato at yesterday's game against fiorentina. and simply ask urself whether or not vdv and sneijder can do the same thing. then conclude whether choosing kaka ahead of them is a BETTER idea or not.

Let me make a few things clear...I didn't say Sneijder and VDV are better than kaka...because that's just stupid.

2nd of all...Sneijder and VDV's favourite position is NOT as central midfielders...but as central attacking midfielders which is different.(EXACTLY like Kaka plays for Milan...or Diego for Werder)

3rd..I used Sneijder and VDV as an example to show that since that position is NOT used in Madrid (central attacking midfielder)...I don't see any reason behind getting a player who only plays in that position.

4th...I said that the 4-2-3-1 formation is unrealistic because I simply cannot imagine perez's Real Madrid playing with one attacker.If I were a coach I'd play this formation because it's my favourtie but I highly doubt that a coach will play this formation under perez.

Lastly, with formations which are too offensive I can safely say that we will get beaten by the big teams.We NEED two defensive midfielders in order to have possetion...so formations such as 4-1-3-2 will be useless

ludwig Hasbauer
58. ludwig Hasbauer Wrote: | 09.50BST | Jun 1, 2009

you forget that madrid very often played the 4231 formation under del bosque..they played raul up front and zidane left, guti central and figo right, and behind them with flavio and makelele..of course they also played with morientes up front, but then raul was rather an attacking midfielder very often..I could imagine that we play with 3 strikers, and they play very freely.. two of them could be kaka and c. ronaldo..

Danniel
59. Danniel Wrote: | 10.36BST | Jun 1, 2009

Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:

you forget that madrid very often played the 4231 formation under del bosque..they played raul up front and zidane left, guti central and figo right, and behind them with flavio and makelele..of course they also played with morientes up front, but then raul was rather an attacking midfielder very...

If it happens very good...it's my preferred formation.But I don't think that will be the case if we'd have Raul,Higuain,Negredo,Huntelaar and possibly Villa or Benzema.Under Perez I'm finding the 4-2-2-2(our current formation) or the 4-3-3 as more probable. ;)

trooper
60. trooper Wrote: | 10.57BST | Jun 1, 2009

did u guys ever witnessed galactico era???because i doubt that !!!!let me tell u why...real madrid had player like figo,zidane,ronaldo and raul in front who at the same time keepin possesion and scorin goals on ther own and ofcourse with some roberto carlos assistance while the rest of the team stayed back in ther own half to avoid caught on the break>>>what i ment to say is 4-2-3-1 is the best formation and option for real madrid style...i can see real madrid palyin with 1 lone stiker possibly david villa and higuain right behind him as second striker and havin ronaldo and ribery on sideways...i believe these four players r enough to open up any defence on ther own

EvoLtc
61. EvoLtc Wrote: | 12.57BST | Jun 1, 2009

Reply to Danniel:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

simple, just go make a single comparison b4 u said something UNFAIR. there is no such a thing!! who is better between kaka, vdv, and sneijder?? i don't see anything except for free kick that the dutchmen can be as gd as kaka. Can Sneijder and VDV dribble through couple players with their skill and...

just take a look at the assisst kaka provided to pato at yesterday's game against fiorentina. and simply ask urself whether or not vdv and sneijder can do the same thing. then conclude whether choosing kaka ahead of them is a BETTER idea or not.

Let me make a few things clear...I didn't say Sneijder and VDV are better than kaka...because that's just stupid.

2nd of all...Sneijder and VDV's favourite position is NOT as central midfielders...but as central attacking midfielders which is different.(EXACTLY like Kaka plays for...

I don't accept that the reason that Sneijder and VDV played 'poorly' was to do with position. These guys are total Dutch, it's a part of their makup that they can play flexibly. In the euros they switched roles frequently. Thier best game i saw them play in was opposing side midfielders in the euros.

I accept what you're saying about Kaka may not be nexcessary, but he can play as a second striker and for Brazil I have seen him play down the wing

EvoLtc
62. EvoLtc Wrote: | 13.14BST | Jun 1, 2009

Incidentally, I'm convinced our priority signing should be Ronaldo, not Kaka.

EvoLtc
63. EvoLtc Wrote: | 13.18BST | Jun 1, 2009

.... and Villa ;)

EvoLtc
64. EvoLtc Wrote: | 16.00BST | Jun 1, 2009

....but not before a couple of defenders =D

DynastyofRealMadrid
65. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 17.01BST | Jun 1, 2009

Reply to Danniel:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

simple, just go make a single comparison b4 u said something UNFAIR. there is no such a thing!! who is better between kaka, vdv, and sneijder?? i don't see anything except for free kick that the dutchmen can be as gd as kaka. Can Sneijder and VDV dribble through couple players with their skill and...

just take a look at the assisst kaka provided to pato at yesterday's game against fiorentina. and simply ask urself whether or not vdv and sneijder can do the same thing. then conclude whether choosing kaka ahead of them is a BETTER idea or not.

Let me make a few things clear...I didn't say Sneijder and VDV are better than kaka...because that's just stupid.

2nd of all...Sneijder and VDV's favourite position is NOT as central midfielders...but as central attacking midfielders which is different.(EXACTLY like Kaka plays for...

1. Sneijder and VDV shouldn't be the obstacles for real madrid to get some BETTER players.

2. Beacause both of them lack of dribbling skills and speed. So a team like real madrid SHOULDN'T develop a team around team with team playing in the no. 10 role ANYTIME. cuz u don't want to see real madrid sticking in Ajax and Hamburg's level. It's pointless to use two defensive midfielders to protect some players who don't even carry the ball around.

3. it's not u and me can decide whether a CM is useful or not in a formation. it's the coach's duty. and a holding midfielder like Xabi ALonso pretty much can do EVERYthing Sneijder and VDV can do.

4. Perez shouldn't interfere some tiny tactical stuff like what formation we shuld go with. It's the coach's duty and even the sporting director can't do that . How did u know real madrid can't play 4-2-3-1 under perez?? something is still unknown yet. no matter how many attacking players he signs, it's still the coach's duty to decie the formation and the lineup. and did u know that real madrid was actually playing the best 4-2-3-1 formation in the 2000-2001 season. and later on it changed to 4-4-2 since Zizou is capable on playing in the left flank(unlike Sneijder and VDV).

DynastyofRealMadrid
66. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 17.04BST | Jun 1, 2009

Reply to Danniel:

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

simple, just go make a single comparison b4 u said something UNFAIR. there is no such a thing!! who is better between kaka, vdv, and sneijder?? i don't see anything except for free kick that the dutchmen can be as gd as kaka. Can Sneijder and VDV dribble through couple players with their skill and...

just take a look at the assisst kaka provided to pato at yesterday's game against fiorentina. and simply ask urself whether or not vdv and sneijder can do the same thing. then conclude whether choosing kaka ahead of them is a BETTER idea or not.

Let me make a few things clear...I didn't say Sneijder and VDV are better than kaka...because that's just stupid.

2nd of all...Sneijder and VDV's favourite position is NOT as central midfielders...but as central attacking midfielders which is different.(EXACTLY like Kaka plays for...

i wonder if u still CAN'T see what VDV and Sneijder are lacking compared with diego and kaka. i personally admire sneijder ONLY BECAUSE he can play as a central midfielder. and for me, they are not the right no 10 for real madrid anytime.

DynastyofRealMadrid
67. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 17.11BST | Jun 1, 2009

Reply to Danniel:

Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:

you forget that madrid very often played the 4231 formation under del bosque..they played raul up front and zidane left, guti central and figo right, and behind them with flavio and makelele..of course they also played with morientes up front, but then raul was rather an attacking midfielder very...

If it happens very good...it's my preferred formation.But I don't think that will be the case if we'd have Raul,Higuain,Negredo,Huntelaar and possibly Villa or Benzema.Under Perez I'm finding the 4-2-2-2(our current formation) or the 4-3-3 as more probable. ;)

it' really pathetic if u still include raul as one of our key player next season. i respect him as a legent but HE shouldn't be an obstacle for real madrid's future plan. Negredo is still an uncertainty and playing good in la liga DOESN'T MEAN he could be reliable enough to play in CL.

so i don't see the problem of having 3 strikers(Villa, Huntelaar, and Higuain) in the squad. each of these three has a different football style while higuain is down to play in the flank like Eto in a 4-3-3 formation, the attacking form of a 4-2-3-1. and i doubt if u really saw any games in the galactico era. FOr me, i ONLY recognize the first 3 years as the real galactico, in which we were still coached by del bosque, a advocator of 4-2-3-1. It's Del Bosque who brought this fabuluous formation to real madrid.

DynastyofRealMadrid
68. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 17.13BST | Jun 1, 2009

Reply to EvoLtc:

Reply to Danniel:
Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

just take a look at the assisst kaka provided to pato at yesterday's game against fiorentina. and simply ask urself whether or not vdv and sneijder can do the same thing. then conclude whether choosing kaka ahead of them is a BETTER idea or not.

Let me make a few things clear...I didn't say Sneijder and VDV are better than kaka...because that's just stupid.

2nd of all...Sneijder and VDV's favourite position is NOT as central midfielders...but as central attacking midfielders which is different.(EXACTLY like Kaka plays for...

I don't accept that the reason that Sneijder and VDV played 'poorly' was to do with position. These guys are total Dutch, it's a part of their makup that they can play flexibly. In the euros they switched roles frequently. Thier best game i saw them play in was opposing side midfielders in the...

exactly!! signing kaka is not smart but the reason is definitely NOT because we have sneijder and vdv.

DynastyofRealMadrid
69. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 17.14BST | Jun 1, 2009

Reply to DynastyofRealMadrid:

Reply to Danniel:
Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:

you forget that madrid very often played the 4231 formation under del bosque..they played raul up front and zidane left, guti central and figo right, and behind them with flavio and makelele..of course they also played with morientes up front, but then raul was rather an attacking midfielder very...

If it happens very good...it's my preferred formation.But I don't think that will be the case if we'd have Raul,Higuain,Negredo,Huntelaar and possibly Villa or Benzema.Under Perez I'm finding the 4-2-2-2(our current formation) or the 4-3-3 as more probable. ;)

it' really pathetic if u still include raul as one of our key player next season. i respect him as a legent but HE shouldn't be an obstacle for real madrid's future plan. Negredo is still an uncertainty and playing good in la liga DOESN'T MEAN he could be reliable enough to play in CL.
...

so it's just depending on the coach, not perez!!

SaramiR
70. SaramiR Wrote: | 02.00BST | Jun 2, 2009

Madrid needs "SPEED" kinda like in the Premiere league. Barca won la liga because they have that factor. Liverpool scored only once in Santiago because in that single (sadly) match we had "SPEED".

To win Champions league, u have to be better than all including English EXTRA fast-paced tactics.. By god's sake, we lost to Arsenal in the Emirates Cup :S
Don't tell me that it's "friendly".. Madrid are Madrid and Arsenal are can't beat them!!!

Last year Madrid weren't at their best.. Ironically, they might have been better this year!! They won the league.. Why? because they were the best Spain could have.. That doesn't mean they were rated internationally.. (Feels like Lyon's life story? )

Get Kaka, Ribery, Alonso or/and Christiano.. Get DEFENCE... Get any quality player you could get.. That would eventually lead to a healthy bench! And players DO get injured.. (Especially the dutch)

DynastyofRealMadrid
71. DynastyofRealMadrid Wrote: | 03.03BST | Jun 2, 2009

Reply to SaramiR:

Madrid needs "SPEED" kinda like in the Premiere league. Barca won la liga because they have that factor. Liverpool scored only once in Santiago because in that single (sadly) match we had "SPEED".

To win Champions league, u have to be better than all including English EXTRA fast-paced...

Barca didn't win titles ONLY with "SPEED", it's because they are able to control the "TEMPO" of the game. "POSSESSION" and "PASS" are their keys to dominate Europe this season. Being able to CONTROL the speed either fast or slow is far more important. they can take it very slow against some physical team like chelsea. They will never risk any silly long passes like our midfielders did all the time. They are always patient. They can move the ball very well and can use the ball very precisely. even releasing from transition, they would never make it in a rush like most of the counter-attack teams do all the time. MOst of their players have the awareness of the importance of "SLOWING DOWN" properly.

madrid
72. madrid Wrote: | 16.56BST | Jun 12, 2009

madrid are best on world

CRAIG
73. CRAIG Wrote: | 15.11BST | Jun 15, 2009

I am a geordie fan through nd through but i have to say if Real sign Ronaldo they are definitley in for a chance of winning champions league next year.

Sena
74. Sena Wrote: | 18.42BST | Jun 26, 2009

8) ;) :) :P just Kaka
Best player in the world 8)

sena
75. sena Wrote: | 18.43BST | Jun 26, 2009

8) Just Ricardo Kaka 8)

ibraahim
76. ibraahim Wrote: | 08.54BST | Jun 30, 2009

ddddddddddddd

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