Real Madrid 2-6 Barcelona | La Liga Review
Saturday, 02 May 09, 11:11 AM · Comments (171)
2-6 
HALA MADRID! HALA MADRID! HALA MADRID!
One of the things that bug me about being a Real Madrid fan is having to put up with other stupid Real Madrid fans. Whenever Real loses, they start blaming whoever they want to blame. I just hope they provide constructive criticism, but they just try to feed their anger by convincing themselves that the manager or the whole squad isn't capable of winning anything.
I find it irritating because clubs like Manchester United and Arsenal have coaches and players who have been at the club since I was two years old. They have been humiliated and kicked out from many competitions, but instead of messing up with their clubs with clean ups and welcoming a Perez-official, they rebuilt their squad strategically, and this is what we need to do.
As a matter of fact, a clear example is Barcelona. They did not win anything last season and the season before (with same current squad), and we trashed them 4-1 at the Bernabeu, but guess what? They diagnosed the problem and solved it. They didn't sell the whole squad as some fans would like to do, they sold those who can't play well anymore and kept those who still can serve the club.
Now I'm not saying that we shouldn't be offloading some players, but what I am saying is that it would be a huge mistake if we did it like how Perez is reportedly going to do it. Selling players like Sneijder, Van der vaart, Robben, Cannavaro and Higuain is a huge huge mistake, because it is practically impossible to find and bring other players who can play as well as those.
- The first thing we need to do is to keep Juande Ramos. Firstly, you can't find a better coach at the moment, and secondly he has proved he is a top-notch manager and deserves to stay.
- The second thing we need to do is to let Juande do his job. No one such as Mijatovic or Perez should interfere with any sporting decisions. No more Cristiano Ronaldo or Kaka crap. Let Juande decide who comes and who goes, he is a football manager and he knows the game better than anyone in the club.
- The third thing we need to do is to keep things stable at the club. No more elections and no more scandals. For Godsake, we are not the United States of America where we have to change the president every four years.
- The fourth thing we need to do is to remain patient and supportive. Building a world-class Champions League winning team takes a lot of time and we have done a good job so far, but If we do the "mass clean up" we'll have to start from zero and it would take us another five years to build a quality squad.
I'm confident that many will disagree with me and still want to follow Perez' plans. Honestly, I don't trust anyone who gets elected because they all have been the same. Some of them did good things, but most of the time, they disestablished the club and hurt our image as the best club in the world.
I wanted to talk about this rather than the game because it doesn't matter what will happen this season. Barcelona are 7 points ahead and it is practically impossible to catch them again.
What we need to do is win our remaining matches so we make sure second place is ours. I just hope the team won't be largely effected by EL Clasico result and can play some good football and win.
Hala Madrid!
Goals
Thierry Henry17'
Carlos Puyol
20'
Lionel Messi
35'
Thierry Henry
58'
Lionel Messi
75'
Gerard Piqué
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i hope robben is gonna show tonight how good he really is real needs to winn this and i think we have a pretty decent chance
I'm so damn nervous, I could wet myself any minute now
Surely, the biggest El Clasico for the last 5-6 years. Hala Madrid!
hey guys plz tell me a link to watch the match live....
ty!!
GOOAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Higuainnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
robben and marcello need to get more ball there teammates need to give more balls to them especialy robben because everytime he gets the ball it becomes dangerous !!!!
1-3 for Barca
hahah forza barca madrid suck balls
Where is the defence.
We are playing their game not ours.
This is disaster.
Juandee ramos is an idiot...we had the chance to win this as soon as higuain scored. Close down the gaps...there is too many gaps because they all close down the opponents too fast.
Gagoo is shit in marking...he just puts pressure on the opponents nothing else...a maskot could do that. Lass at least steals the ball sometimes even though it was his fault for the goal.
Vaart should have started butt nooo ...f**** Ramos
This is slowly turning into Barcelona vs Casillas not Real Madrid.
Where on earth is the defense?
Blame the coach, blame the refs, blame yourself... Barca is just the better squad
you guys are lucky you have IKER because if not it would easily be 5-1...
I`m not watching the game more.
I`m waiting the next season.
the atmosphere is not that gd here and let me break the silence. THat's exactly wut i'd said at the previous post. IF we don't pay high attention on defense, one little turnover can kill us. only the first 15 minutes we were like playing a home game and after that they have it all under control. It's not just because they have players with better quality. Look at the way they are passing the ball, not just how calm they were under pressure, but more importantly is their "DISTANCE BW EACH OTHER". there must be more than 1 players following so tightly when one is holding the ball. It creates much more space for them to pass. Look at us, whenever Higuain and Robben are dancing and running, NO ONE is following up and helping them out. that's pathetic. It's about the team's structure rather than the quality of individual players. ANd they are simply doing the same thing defensively. Whenever Higuain got the ball, there must be at lesat 3 players around him. furthermore, im tired of this shit, just put VDV on Raul's place.
Reply to Riken:
typical madrid fan. still 45 mins to go and already packing it in on the season? COWARD
Reply to Brawley7:
what the f*** is wrong with you.
Reply to MESSI18:
I`m not a coward, I`m realistic and I`m not afraid to say it.
sorry brawley7. i meant to reply for messi18 post.
Reply to affy159:
true thats realistic but at least support your team throughout the whole season, i wouldnt consider myself a fan if i didnt support the team in the bad years ( a la last two years)
robben and casillias are the only ones who are playing there best the rest need to step up there game !!!1
Reply to Messi18:
Barcaa play better when you let them play their game. But chelsea and valencia showed that has weaknesses and if you play with a certain way you have a chance of winning.
The only problem is that Juande Ramos is STUPID. He is not a tactician noo way no how
Reply to affy159:
ok mate.
all is good.
Guys, this is getting ugly.
bye bye to the league. 2-5 is just to much. madrid really need a major surgery to compete next season. goosh!! i really miss robinho.
ok, then gd nite everyone
Reply to Brawley7:
I actually had my hopes high at the beginning of the game. Lets hope my other team (chelsea) can show them how it is played
Thankfully it's now over.
Admit our losses Real Madrid fandom......I personally knew we would not have won this game and the goals of Barca did not surprise me....our defense is shit and they have more firepower. It was expected. Look on the bright side, we will most certainly be in CL next year and hopefully with a whole new squad. The only ones who should remain from this entire squad into next year are casillas, ramos, higuain and Lass.
Anti-Mijatovic I have to take my hat of for you...you were absolutely right....we are failing at the big stage (where it matters most).
I think the only thing worse then the heavy defeat if that this will "inspire" Perez to return to Real madrid even more...expect hearing that he will return by the end of the week
robben and casillias the only players who deseverd to wear the white shirt this game !! omg real played so bad what were they thinking
Reply to realfreak:
So are Arjen Robben and Pepe.
It's pathetic to see some real madrid making excuses to the team's failure. SOmetimes we just have to face the truth. and it's a shame for some pple said that WE DON'T NEED A REFORM FOR THE TEAM.i'd already pointed it out b4 the match. Even though we had several great victories against some 3rd rank crappy team(except Seville), it's still hard to even DRAW barca. Our team seemed not at the same level compared with barca.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
The 0-5 aggregate defeat against liverpool, the 2-8 aggregate defeat against barca, and the two loss against Junventus indicate that WE ARE JUST PLAYING AT A 2ND RANK TEAM'S LEVEL.
i just can't cool myself down, my anger and shit, this is fucked up to watch my team being humiliated by the arrogant Catalans at home. this season is a disaster. And i feel sorry for Real Madrid to have some pathetic fans who are still kissing Mijatovic's ass. This Serbian bastard is such a retard who ruins real madrid with his stubborness. All the focus had been shift to Perez who has not yet had anything to do with real madrid. Blame the one who refused to sign world class players. Fuck that shit.!
i couldn't believe what i was looking tonight..!!
crapy football with no head and tail...! our midfield was taking a vacation today..
The defense and midfield looked like sh...!! it was the same 442 formation that we play for some time now and Barca made us look like an amateur team. Juande didn't know how to set up a play against Liverpool and doesn't now what to do against Barca even do Valencia shoved us how to play against a team like that...!!
but i wouldn't like to blame only Ramos... Gago is not a world class quality, Hainze is not olso... Canavaro is old and Raul can play on high level football any more, but we have VDV, Saviola and Huntelar on the bench... BRAVO, BRAVO..!!!
This right now is a recap of Mijatovic and Calderon's time on the helm of Real Madrid..!! Now you can see what have you made in your time in charge of this club. You made us a club that play's a second rate football, spend incredibly lot of money only to create a situation where we have to make a huge REFORM and again spend a lot of money... BRAVO, BRAVO...!!!
You have only disgraced yourself and you have made yourself a worst ever board of Real...!!!
Reply to Rireal:
it's over!!!i just can imagine how realamdrid fans at bernabue would be feeling!!!we r slaughtered and juande has to go!!!oh god this is not happening>>>believe me even if we had ronaldo or ribery th escore line would be no different///trust me...real madrid is dying breed
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Not only refused to sign world class players but had no abilities of running this club and has no competence in bringing world class players. He is even such a sh... that he let go some of our best players. This is total AMATEURISM and INCOMPETENCE!!!!
And the one to blame for this humiliation is not only Juande Ramos, we have a crap of a BOARD and we have to pray that there is someone who knows what the fu.. they are doing because this Fu.. DOESN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
U gotta laugh... 6-2 at the bernabeu!!!! Fuckin hell!! Chelsea drew 0-0 at the camp nou..barca arent the dream team every1 is makin out..United and maybe Liverpool wud beat them easily. Iy just shows how 2nd rate madrid are.. Cassillas is the only World Class player. Lass, heinze, robben are Premier league rejects as is our manager (HE GOT SACKED FROM SHITTY SPURS)!! The rest are flops in big games. WHY WHY WHY wud Ronaldo leave the Thaeater Of Dreams, when u play with Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov, Giggs, Scholes, Ferdinand, Vidic etc etc, where United play the best attacking football along with Barca in the world to come to a has been club that barely beats the smaller teams that come scared of the Real Madrid badge!! We are living on past glories and the gap between Real and the rest is gona keep getting bigger.
Reply to trooper:
you are not far from the truth. Our tactics were wrong and well read, we play slow football with a lot of bad or wrong passes, we don't how to place ourself without the ball and to make space and goog movement without the ball!!! And also what Anti-Mijatovic sad the DISTANCE BETWEEN THE PLAYERS IS HUGE...
Yes, even with Ronaldo and Ribery it would be sh...!!!
And that's the legacy that Mijatovic has left us!!!!!!!! BRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVO.!!!!!!
Reply to Madridinho:
Don't lose your focus mate... Man utd team is long time together with a long lasting coach. They are buying players who fill in or slowly get in the first squad... They don't make a big REFORMS every year, they heaven't weakened their squad, they made it stronger. They are compact team who plays together for a while and that Real Madrid is NOT!!!!!!!!!!
You can thank a Real Madrid BOARD for this situation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
for the 2nd time of my life my team my life has let me down again , first from liverpool and now from our arch enemy fricken barca , barca are signin the right names at the right time goodbye ribery ....... i wont blame the players or juande even though his tactics are soo definsive and obvious all what i can say is F U mijatovic and screw the entire adminstration ...... R.madrid used to be something that am proud off but now it's something that am crazy about and in love with but cant do shit to help it .... its like watching titanic sinking for 777777777th time , please sign the right people to wear our shirt .... goodnight folks therez always another season and another day MADRID isnt history Madrid Will reWRITE history .... CASI HIGUAIN ROBBEN PEPE RAMOS RUD are the right people to stay in out team the rest is pure shit ............. MADRID FOREVER...... DAYnNight= RedsNblues
HalaMadrid
robben is not a reject chelsea wanted to keep him but he choose himself to go. and if after this season you still think robben is not worldclass there is clearly something wrong with you. robben was togehter wit casillias good tonight but he can't win the match on his own. if robben would play with the same players messi does he would be as good as messi maby even better cause messi wasn't even that good tonight he missed a lot of chances eventhough he maked 2 goals and he lost the ball a lot to. and lass is on of the best players for real this season and no he didn't play good tonight but nobody really did cause barca tonight played just amazing.
oh it's a reply to madridinho btw
What in the fucking hell was that ! Another Liverpool like game! That shitty Juande Ramos does not learn from mistakes! This squad might be the worst ever! Now I am praying we fast forward to August where we have a new world-class squad, because waiting 3 months with the pain of this season inside me will drive me crazy!
Why the fuck did Juande pick Heinze and Gago, and bench Huntelaar?
And ONE THING I WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY- DON'T LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO PRAISE LASS DIARRA! HE IS A SHIT OF A PLAYER! HE CONCEDED A GOAL BECAUSE OF HIS MISTAKE AND THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE MATCH HE WAS RUNNING AROUND THE BARCA PLAYERS LIKE A DOG! HE SUCKS! I TELL YOU! I HAVE NEVER BEEN CONVINCED OF HIM AND GAGO EVER SINCE THEY MADE US LOSE TO LIVERPOOL !
A PLAYER WHOM EVEN PORTSMOUTH WOULDN'T START , WHY WOULD WE PAY 20 MILLION EUROS FOR HIM? 20 MILLION EUROS FOR A 4 MILLION EURO PLAYER!
NOW I ADVISE ALL REAL MADRID FANS TO GO TO HIBERNATION UNTIL NEXT SEASON AND ERASE THEIR MEMORIES AND FORGET THAT A GAME CALLED FOOTBALL EXISTS! WATCH SOME OTHER SPORT!
AND ONE MORE THING! I THINK WE WILL ALSO LOSE TO VALENCIA AND VILLAREAL NOW THAT WE HAVE NOTHING TO PLAY FOR!
GUDNIGHT! IF U CAN SLEEP! THIS REAL MADRID SIDE SUCKS! IT TRULY SUCKS! AND DON'T U DARE TRY TO ARGUE WITH ME ON THAT 'CAUSE IT'S THE COLD-HARD TRUTH !
Reply to Ravi:
It sucks and the Mijatovic is responsible for this situation...!!!
In conclusions. With my merengue blood. I am happy. This is a wake up call. Lets see if the Real Madrid administration cares about this team.
Time will tell....
Reply to Danniel:
yeah man, everyone is frustrated by the result. It really hurts every real madrid fan's heart. i hope Adam can forgive me on using some extreme language but it was just my expression of my broken heart!! This El Classico is a disaster, it couldn't be easily erased from our hearts. just like last time we got abused by Ronaldinho-- the 0-3 lost.
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
what's next sack juande!!!then bring who??????u know how i am feeling right now like someone close to me just passed away///we r a laughing stock and there is no hope...bring in perez then what???will this memory be erased ever /????i say it again barca is not invincible,real madrid is just not good enough..if valencia can draw barca at home then why not us...on paper we have better player..i dont know someone was blaming mijatovic here...thsi si the reason why we r failing!!!we always find a reason to blame some one!!realmadrid is dying..
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
It is getting harder and harder for me to stand up to MAN U, CHELSEA, LIVERPOOL,BARCA fans!
Where am I going to hide my face now?
If this does not wake up the bossses at Real Madrid, then what will?
We want CHANGE!
Even if we had won this year , everybody would have praised Barca! because of the shitty defensive football he made us play!
And now we should sign a REAL coach who makes Real Madrid play attractive football and at the same time the team keeps clean sheets!
Who is that coach?
Can anyone make any suggestions?
I don't want Italian coaches like Capello ! He also made us play defensive football like Juande!
That's why he was sacked!
If Real Madrid continue to play defensive football I am not going to remain a fan!
Now I am beginning to doubt our recent 3 Champions League titles!
Were they fixed?
I remember the Real Madrid team I first came to know! They had Hierro at the back and the strike team of Raul and Morientes was superb! Those two scored goals for fun! They played brilliant attacking football!
It was love at first sight! I knew my club was Real Madrid !
But now? How things have changed! I am beginning to doubt my love and my faith!
Only big failure can arouse from their dream. The last two La Liga title we'd won gave us an excuse to overestimate our team's level. And who pays attention to the 5 consecutive 1st round knockout at CL??? In fact, the CL statistic in recent years clearly indicates the decline of Spainish clubs' level. Barca seems to be the only one who can compete with the EPL big 3,(i would exclude Arsenal) and SeriA Giants(only the milan duo). we'd let the 18 game winning streak overwhelmes our head but i wonder if we did really count on those teams....!! in some of those matches, we just BARELY beated some crappy teams. and when it comes to be Barca, we got served and this happens the fatal cause of our defeat on defending La Liga. I think nth should be said in this moment. The result pretty much tells us everything. We gotta learn how to stop making excuses or we won't never get to success again. It's not just beacuse "WE HAD A WONDERFUL GAME WHILE WE DIDN'T PLAY WELL" or "WE HAD A BAD WEEK"(I don't think they'd got a GD WEEK though)!! we gotta learn how to face the truth that we are not good enough. How simple is that.
Reply to Ravi:
i feel you ... exactly what am going through shit i cant evem sleeep feeel so humilated and thrashed..... am starting to think the first 5 C.L trophies were rubbish ... uefa competetion wasnt as hot as it is now .... we r gettin knocked out as soon as we meet an average good team .... this is too much but all what i can say to u my friend .... this is football ... and defeat is part of the game especialy if ur facing a team like barca currently .... thank god the game finished with a 4 goals gap ty casilias,roubben and higuain our future
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
CORRECTION: "THEY HAD A WONDERFUL GAME WHILE WE DIDN'T PLAY WELL"
Reply to trooper:
Madrid is not better than Barca on paper you foolish foolish boy. the only players that would make it in barca is IKER, RAMOS and maybe, just maybe robben although he would be behind messi and iniesta.
But what a Barca whore doing on our blog?
This is a very sad night for any madrid fan. Unfortanatly i actually saw it coming but not by this margin. I've resolved not to watch anymore matches till next season!!! Im so devastaed right now, these are the nights that i wished i neva watched football in the 1st place and what makes it worse is i cant support any other team but madrid! I feel like a convict senteced to life witout parole!!! Till next season hala madrid!
Reply to MESSI18:
u pathetic son of a fuckin whore!!!who said real madrid player r better than that of barca!!! i was refering to valencia..where were u when same real madrid team owned barca after pasillo!!every team has it bad time and unfortunety it was real madrid...
always Real Madrid!
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hi adam i am waiting for u to shed some light on this 2nd may disaster!!!
Reply to Ravi:
Raviii change sport....bc you have no idea about football. Lass first of all was a starter for portsmouth. Furthermore the teams chelsea and arsenal wanted to keep him but he woulds settle for not being a starter. But ofcourse when you have makelele and essien you wont start Lass. Get your facts straight.
Then Lass has been a great player since coming in real, but its Ramos fault. He is the one who tells gago and Lass to run around players like dogs. And I agree they played like that...and Gago has always been ineffective. But its no the players fault...its the coach.
I dont know if you ppl play Football manager...but one of the easiest things to do if you see that the opposite team is finding too much space behind you...is have your defensive line deeper and have your players not close down opponents too much.
(that is what hiddink did and respect for that)
BUT ONCE AGAIN RAMOS IS AN IDIOT...RETARD...STUPID. Even Emerie of valencia is a better coach than him and he showed that in the draw with valencia.
We need a good coach ppl....we have the players well maybe we need another winger...but hell we have talent in this team and a coach who can get the best out the players in given circumstances.
Reply to MESSI18:
Messii you dont get it...Iniesta or Xavi where never great players...Toure played for olympiakos not so long ago...valdes is crap...pique didnt make it in the first team in man utd...you almost gave away etoo last year.
I am not saying this to suggest barca is not a great team...but to show that what barcelona has better that madrid is only one thing....and thats PEP.
He made your team click...and all the madritistas should see this and stop talking about Lass and our players as if they are a bunch of rejects.
Its the coach!!!!!
I wrote it 5 times in my posts already but I am really angry ....Ramos is an IDIOT...I said it when we lost to liverpool ...I am saying it now again...get rid of him.
I know our options of world class coaches is limited but we need to look and price one great coach...and then get stability in our club.
Reply to Ravi:
You're a fucking idiot. Lass is the only reason we didn't lose 10-0. He leaves his heart and soul on that field and plays tough football that doesn't get enough respect in Spain. Something Guti could take a note from. Tonight was no one's fault but the administration for not allowing Schuster to give the team more depth last summer and letting Robinho go. Madrid tried tonight, but are not good enough to beat Barca, let alone draw with them.
HOWEVER, I will NEVER stop supporting my team, and I get so sick and tired of seeing these "fairweather fans" whistle their team and come onto forums to talk shit on a team they claim to support. Support your team through the tough times too! HALA MADRID!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply to trooper:
Logically i think u somewhat made some fallacy in ur statement with which u failed to use ur premises to support ur conclusion:"i don't know someone was blaming mijatovic here...and this is the reason why we r falling...!!!" is this relevant?? Oh i got it now, that means if we worship our director 3 times a day and kiss his ass even though he made some stupid decisions(with his confident announcements, we can be success....?? beautiful!! no one is blaming on anyone but there must be some legitimate cause to every outcome, and if we couldn't correct wut we'd done wrong, we ain't gonna kick back to the level we were. And there is so many next year, that's enough!! okay, we shouldn't blame on anyone but ourselves who determine to be a supporter of the club, a collapsing club. And don't blame anyone even though one is doing something obviously wrong.
Reply to trooper:
even up to now, there is SOMEONE who still thinks we have players better than barca's. i dare say that's the REASON why we are falling and DYING!!!
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
i apologize to this one by misunderstanding wut u mean, i read ur comments firin' that Barca son of a bitch. and i got wut u mean. nth offensive, but i just tryna point out wut i'd seen with the club are fuckedup
I love real with all my heart but i am not gonna say they are better than Barca right now. I am not in denial. We don't have a side that can compete on top level...heck we can't even beat a 3rd division team in spanish cup we will beat the top clubs in Europe! it's all the director's fault. for years he should've had castilla players slowing weaning into the 1st team. Back when zidane and carlos and figo and co. left negredo and co should gotton their full chance instead of going out and buying drenthe, gago and other shitwards. There would've been no need to bring in Faubert on loan. Our castilla players would be so devastating right now barca would've been on the receiving end of today's drubbing. They spent all the time chasing Ronaldo. They have a one track mind and is not thinking of the future.
look at this front/midfield line up
RM
raul
higuain
gago
lass
marcelo
robben (just coming off injury)
Barca
Henry
Eto
messi
Xavi
iniesta
toure
tell me you all didn't expect real to get blown out. and don't get me started on the defence. barca has firepower each one of those players always scoring........how many goal does gago, lass, marcelo have? I'm sure eto and messi alone have a combine total of goals this season more than those 6 real players.
All Hail PEREZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will take whatever he is going to do with RM over this shit.
Did you all really expect us to win when we were attacking Barcelona. Whoever here is blaming Juande Ramos, blame yourself. You're the people who force him to not defend and take risks. We could've got a draw or quite possibly a win if we would've held tight but the pressure we put our coaches under is shameful. Chelsea defended their ass off and we think we can be brave and hit Barcelona? I'm seriously going to blame myself and all the fans for forcing us to not play this 'defensive' football. Get it in your heads, without it, no team is complete, not even Barcelona! But I will give credit to us for one thing. Had this been anyteam but Barcelona, we would've got a result. We weren't all that bad, they just proved they deserve the title. I'm not going to cry because this is what I expected and that's why I hesitated from making a prediction. We have over-condifent fags ruling our club and it's seriously time for a change. I'll tell you who deserves to stay; Higuain, Casillas, Lass, Robben, Sergio Ramos, Pepe, Huntelaar and Juande Ramos. I wouldn't care to hoots if the rest of the team was kicked out. We don't have a good enough squad, as simple as that. Neither is it as bad as some think. Nobody in the world can doubt Higuain and Robben after this game, I guarantee you that. They are sublime but were two World-Class players in our strike force going to stand a chance against 6 in theirs?
And I think this just proves me point about Cannavaro, he's trashed when he comes up against good opposition. Let Pepe and Garay start a new revoloution with possibly Lahm at left-back. Ribery-Robben on the wings. Lass and Xabi Alonso in the center and Negredo and Higuain upfront being rotated with RVN and Huntelaar. We'd be near Barcelona with a team like this but to emulate them would take some time. I congratulate Barcelona on a wonderful game and season and I hope they bring Spain some pride by winning the Champions League. Hala Madrid!
And let me just say something from the bottom of my heart, those of you who are planning to stop supporting Real because of a bad season, let me give you a word, PLASTIC. That's what you are, you're just plain glory-hunters, you have no genuine love for the club just trophies. I'm only referring to certain comments though. I find certain supporters here to be very well-spoken.
Reply to pellos:
Explain to me right here, how is any of this Juande's fault? Give me a solid reason.
Reply to Ravi:
LOL! You think Lass didn't start for Portsmouth? AHAHAHAAHH! Funny lad you are. And as Kristen stated above, Lass is one of the four players because of whom we didn't lose 10-0 and they are Robben, Higuain, Casillas and Lass himself.
Barcelona Burn you alive
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Then you will say try to win the 3 cups
and Barcelona will win
Reply to hashim alsadah:
It'll be even when we give you a Guard of Honor, loser. Cocky scum like you make me want to puke.
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
juande has showed again how he is NOT a tactician.valencia and chelsea have showed how to attack barca while holding the defense tight but he still opted to use his stupid tactics.we were up againts a fast pace barca and who did he called?a turtle pace gago,heinze and raul.this is absurd!lightning has just struck twice at madrid with juande as coach.and who knows it might just struck once more.who's next to give madrid a hammering?he should leave.take a good real tactician like valencia's emery.
Reply to flynn:
My friend, each time he tries to be a tactician, us fans start to complain about playing defensive football and don't lie and say that not the way it it. The pressure we put on our coaches is immense. Remember his first three games where we were playing on the counter? We looked so impressive but some ignorant fans couldn't stand not playing pretty football. Juande tries to listen to the fans. Sure, he could've taken the 10 men behind the ball way but which supporter would accept having beaten Barca playing like 'cowards'? Another thing, Valencia did well, yes, but Barca clearly lacked motivation, something I told everyone they wouldn't lack against us. Barca looked very tired against Valencia and rested too. Against Chelsea, they were frustrated by Chelsea's 'pathetic' ways. If us fans can't accept defensive football, why are you blaming Juande for not using it?
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
like donald trump usually says!!!some one has to be fired!!!! and i guess it is pedja this time and next year if we fail and that is certain then maybe it will be zidane or valdano..the problem is weak foundation and PHILOSphy!!!the main probelm is pathetic acedamy and in order to click philsophy u need to have it from grass root levev...
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
nevermind mate!!!i am really feeling sorry for all of us...beleive me when barca scored there 5 goal, i was in the cafe and the first thougth came in my mind was how anti-mijatovic and angel of madrid would be saying to them self
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
beleive me when i say i am ready to see real madrid conceeding 10 goals then giving passillo!!!6-2 wont be remembered that much but passillo will haunt barca fans forever!!trust me
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
TheAngelOfMadrid so you corrected me ,so he was a starter after all! That means you shit follow a team like Portsmouth! Shame on you!
Well that doesn't change anything! You mean he still is a 20 million Euro player? You still think he played well in our games against Liverpool and barca? Remember the game against Liverpool! We conceded one goal because Lass failed to clear a high ball and the resulting play conceded us a goal!
Now again he conceded a goal against Barca!
And what is the shiity argument about 10-2 if not for Lass!
Fuck U!
It was Saint Iker who saved us from that! Not some lowly "Lass" or any of our defenders or defensive midfielders!
"Lass" got his "ASS" kicked last night by Barca as he did against Liverpool!
Also why do we have crap Argentine players like Heinze and Gago in our starting XI I have never understood!
With Heinze its like the coach has to start him if he is fit ,like Raul!
Has he got some friends in Real Madrid Board?
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Listen don't worry about it..."fans" who turn up only when Real Madrid lose shouldn't be even considered plastic fans.
After all this isn't something new...the same thing happened when we lost against Liverpool.Before some of you start critisizing critisize yourselves...because you either shouldn't be here on this blog or you aren't true R.Madrid supporters...I can't imagine the B.Munich fans after losing 4-0 ta Barca,or the Man U fans after losing 4-1 to Liverpool doing the same thing.This is the reason R.Madrid is failing right now because just as something turns out wrong....nobody wants to be a part of it and everybody wants everybody to go....so much for bringing stability to the club
Real Madrid ist der größte scheißverein der welt!!!!!!!!!
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
i understand the need to use defensive tactics at times but not in every match and even against mediocre teams.he also seems to be a one trick man for not being able to switch strategies in a match.a good manager needs to have a few tricks up his sleeves and not approach every game the same way as juande has done now.
Reply to flynn:
Yet at the same time, people over here are criticizing our defence. So you want us to attack and leave ourselves exposed with out shitty back-line? Right there, you proved my point. If we can make up our mind, the results will automatically be better. This match though was not going to be won even if we played differently because Barca were at their very best against a team that shouldn't compete with teams higher than Arsenal.
Reply to Ravi:
Chill dude, have some respect. I just laughed, didn't swear or anything and that should be mutual. And no, anybody who has knowledge about the Premier League would know about Lassana so don't make foundation-less remarks like that. And yes, I belive he's worth each and every penny. I would trust the opinions of Gerry Armstrong or Guillem Balague who call him a bargain. Yes, he was at fault for a goal, but wasn't San Iker also at fault for Henry's second? Or Ramos at fault for each and every goal? Does that make them any worse? Though, you're right, Gago and Heinze are practically along with the left-wing, our weakest position.
"it's clear we are a 2nd tier team in Europe today and a 2nd place team in La Liga." U just simply pointed out what i 'd been tryin' to express. as a supporter, i critize our team when they play bad cuz i care about the team. BUt besides the critizism, more importantly, i gotta point out where we should be improved. U just did it perfectly with the evaluation which i couldn't agree more!!
Just updated the post with my thoughts. I'll be replying to some comments here as they drive me nuts
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
I cannot cool myself too. I am pissed and furious. We just became a laughing stock.
I totally agree that Mijatovic and Calderon are 100% to blame for this shameful season.
I propose Mijatovic and Calderon to beaten with stones in the center of Madrid. I might even get a ticket to visit Madrid and throw a stone at those idiots.
Reply to Ravi:
Rava, all due respect man, but Madrid have made two outrageous mistakes in the last decade - sacking of Del Bosque and Capello.
The proverb - do not fix it if ain't broken accounts to those mistakes.
Capello is far superior than Schuster and Juande. He was brilliant in making team play adjustments (from defensive to offensive style of play), just remember how we won the liga 2 years ago.
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
well I just did...if you read my post. The strategy was all wrong...you dont close down barcelona since they can dribble...they can find spaces and score.
Especially when we had the first goal we should have held the score by doing exactly what chelsea did.
I really dont get it you tell me to give you an argument even though all I have been doing was giving arguments...so I am sure I wont be able to change your mind
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Angel of madrid ..sorry but you are full of crap. You think ramos cares if madrid fans complained about the football???? He has been playing the same style since appointed.
Two defensive midfielders that has them running around the ball with Gago always humiliating himself while doing that...he cant steal a ball for his life.
Anw same tactic...with some teams it works with others not...Ramos is not a tactician...he just knows one tactic and counts on the passion that our players showed over and over again and individual talent to win the game.
You say that he plays defensively??? We conceded soooo many goals....even when we are sometimes ahead.
Reply to flynn:
Dude Flynn you are the only reasonable person in here who understands football...Thanks!!!!
I'm not a fan of the Perez method and would love most of the team to stay but we need to replace Heinze. That man is not capable of playing in a Real Madrid t-shirt anymore. He had a good few years at Man United but since then he went downhill.
Reply to pellos:
The blame falls solely on Mijatovic and Calderon for giving us such an imbalanced and second-rate squad. Juande's done all he could with it yet you just proved my point. Us fans think that all trophies were made for us. No patience whatsoever. We expect every year to be perfect. Had a bad season..it's time for a clean-up. Oh, this manager ONLY got us to second..sack him, why don't we? Why give him a chance when we can bring in someone who's also going to not do so well in his first season and we'll sack him too. You can't succeed when you're not given a chance, remember that. We made that mistake with Capello and we're going to make the same mistake with Juande. Another thing, yes he has two tactics because he doesn't have the players for other ones! We have one freaking winger, ONE! We have no World-Class playmaker, a sorry excuse for a left-back. Truth is, we've lost to these teams not because of managers but because of a useless squad. Stop blaming coaches, blame those who did this. I can guarantee you no coach in the world would've done much better than Juande. Benitez or Fergie maybe but nobody else. I'm not saying that Juande's only not as good as these two but that other than these two, nobody could've done better. And please, show some respect, I can disrespect you too but I have the self-respect to not sink to your level. Hala Madrid!
Reply to pellos:
And yes, we could've defended all-out but would our history be able to deal with that. The 'mighty' Real Madrid having to defend. Think about it. I can take a defensive tactic but can everyone, especially the Ultra-Surs do so? Can the newspapers do so? We think too much of ourselves, that's another problem.
Reply to pellos:
well said...
But i wouldn't said that he is full of crap. the man has his own opinion. you have to respect that...
believe me we will be all here at this very blog discussing same thing next year!!!there is no hope,give juande another chance and he will vomit again..i would recommend laurent blanc for real madrid!! he is the perfect coach for real amdrid believe me...he is th ecoach of bordoux
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Ok sorry but you accuse me of blaming the coach while you keep accusing the players. First of all even when shuster won the title I still thought he wasnt a good coach.
I dont expect trophies...I expect to see some reaction from the bench mid way through the game. And I am not talking only about changing a player and that player making the difference. That is not coaching. You need to be able to adapt to each game.
Seconldy stop blaming the players. We have the 3rd best winger in the world, the top goalkeeper, one of the best defensive midfielders out there.
Then we have Vaart who is a world class attacking midfielder (did you know that chelsea is interested in him?? And they have lampard) sneijder is a world class playmaker.
Then you have the worlds best academy. Sooo stop talking about the players. Just look at what scolari did to chelses...he destroyed the team...the way they played was unbalanced...and then one great coach changed everything.
And who are you saying that I should show some respect to??? I respect the team and their passion but I have watched Ramos from the past I never thought he was a good coach sooo I express my opinion....with good arguments.
And I never wanted real to win the title...I just want some imagination on the field and that only comes with good coaching.
Oh and by the way....saying hala madrid at the end doesnt make you right!!!
This season was not our time....next season,after the summer reconstruction!Anyway,I am satisfied with the results of this team at the end!Hala Madrid!
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Oh and by the way...Heinze you are saying he is crap right...well Bosingwa played for the first time in left back slot and dealt with messi much better.
Now if you think bosingwa is a better left back than heinze then what can I say.
Sooo once again....its the TACTICS
you cant have him going forward....hee has messsi against him for gods sake. Ramos screwed up...he didn do his hw at all
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Why are you saying that Ramos keeps trying to listen to us..??
If he did Raul, Gago and Hainze would play every match!!! Not only that but he would adopt and change the game strategy against some teams. I know that it is easy to speak of this right now after the game, that it is easy to be smart right now. But this is not about it.
We play second rate football for some time now, with the same team and formation. It was bound to happen that someone will reed us and take the advantage. That is what happened against Liverpool and now against Barcelona. And in between those games we never changed our strategy and most of the time we looked mediocre.
And for that I WILL BLAME RAMOS, MIJATOVICH and CALDERON.
That's my opinion and because of that i am not a weaker fan of Madrid or PLASTIC fan...!!!!!!!!
Reply to pellos:
It is correct that Lass made a mistake, but hey he has been in incredible form so he is not the one to blame. As Juande said, the whole team to blame. But If there is one I blame then it would be the management for their stupid decisions over the years.
Reply to Rireal:
well said!!!!!!!
Reply to pellos:
So you are basically saying Juande is stupid. Well, he has won 42 points our of possible 47 or 48 and he only came in the middle of the season. HE IS NOT STUPID. The stupid is whoever think that Ramos is the one to blame. For Godsake, a few days ago he was a hero and now an idiot?
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
I agree Mijatovic is stupid, but I wouldn't call him a "Serbian bastard". Please calm down.
He was never my hero Adam...and please anybody ...even shuster would be able to get the same amount of points from these games with this squad
Villareal and Athletico kept dropping points and most of the spanish teams were inconsistent. Look at milan this year...a terrible team and still they managed to be second.
And stop assuming that I am one of those ppl who are happy when my team is winning and blame the coach when it isnt.
He is stupid (as a coach always) bc he is not a good analyzer of situations and not a good tactician.
Non one of you has told me why he played like this against barcelona...all you keep mentioning is that he had good past results.
Well if you are happy on just winning teams with lower quality players but lose against the best teams just bc the coach cant work out a trick then thats fine with me.
Reply to Adambader:
yes, he won many points since he arrived here but in many occasions it was also our luck that had some influence in our result, especially when we didn't played well against lover rated teams.
I am not saying that he is only one to blame but it is also his responsibility.
guys guys.... we can not blame a single person for what happened last night.... real madrid is a team and win or loss the credit goes to the whole group.... having said that, its my personal opinion that we need to get a new coach first thing in the summer, i don't think juande is suitable for the real madrid job even though he is an amazing coach.... secondly, though many might disagree, i think we need a skillful mid someone like ronaldo/ribery and a quick mobile striker eg tevez or iniesta.... also left back is a definite necessity as heinze literally sucks! i hope our admin makes the right decisions this summer. Hala Madrid ALWAYS!
CRISTIANO RONALDO has come out today and said 'the real madrid dream is over, i want to win the league and champions league with manchester'...last week he said 'i want to win many things at old trafford and be one of uniteds greats'
I agree with many fans that we dont want another galacticos, but we definitely need to buy one of the best attacking players in the world to help us compete. We cant sign messi, rooney and ronaldo wont leave, ribery is going barca and it looks like kaka would only leave milan to goto manchester united as he said a few weeks ago.
If we cant attract the best players then we need a coach like wenger that can get the best out of good but not world class players and develop youth players.
We are a second rate team with ONE WORLD CLASS PLAYER...IKER! Huntelaar, VDV, Lass, Gago, Heinze and many others are all flops.
And we only beat the smaller teams becoz theyre afraid of the Real Madrid badge.
CRISTIANO RONALDO has come out today and said 'the real madrid dream is over, i want to win the league and champions league with manchester'...last week he said 'i want to win many things at old trafford and be one of uniteds greats'
I agree with many fans that we dont want another galacticos, but we definitely need to buy one of the best attacking players in the world to help us compete. We cant sign messi, rooney and ronaldo wont leave, ribery is going barca and it looks like kaka would only leave milan to goto manchester united as he said a few weeks ago.
If we cant attract the best players then we need a coach like wenger that can get the best out of good but not world class players and develop youth players.
We are a second rate team with ONE WORLD CLASS PLAYER...IKER! Huntelaar, VDV, Lass, Gago, Heinze and many others are all flops.
And we only beat the smaller teams becoz theyre afraid of the Real Madrid badge.
he is jus not good enough coach for real madrid...can't win on the big stage......since he started at club he had been starting the same team same formation ...and he is not learning from his mistakes......we need major changes in the summer ...
Reply to Adambader:
YAY! Somebody on my side
I really don't understand how you can blame all this on Juande.
Reply to Rireal:
You misunderstood me, if he could listen to us we'd be a great team but being a Spaniard myself, let me tell you Ultra-Surs are some of the most ignorant fans in the world. Along with our newspapers they're the ignorance-committee of Spain. They're the ones who he listens too and they are totally wrong. For the Liverpool and Barcelona games, you can put quite a lot of the blame on him, but I blame an incapable squad which in tern leads to the faults of Calderon and Mijatovic who are hence the culprits.
Reply to Adambader:
Adam , you keep blaming people who gets angry whenever Real loses but that normal because Real Madrid is now not a top quality team .. nor does Real Madrid has top quality players except for Iker, Real Madrid clearly has what a friend of mine calls a mafia consisting of Raul,Guti, Miatjovic and the fitness coach they sabotage the team from within to make sure they stay , which I agree to some extent. Real Madrid needs complete overhaul in their sporting administration excluding Juande Ramos and specifically the youth coach, First team coach and the Cantera Director.
If we want to go back to a team feared by all we must agree on that Real Madrid is NOT a great team anymore ( Talking about the sporting issues not the Madridismo concept dont get me wrong) We need players, young players who are match winners, goal scorers and players capable of handeling players like Leo Messi or F.Torres. If we agree on that and start building from within .. I am sure we will be back better than ever.
Todays not my day..
however, I think with 4 singnings we could be in shape next year ich bin ein pfurz
sdbgw
Reply to pellos:
At max, we have 5 World-Class players - FACT. Compare it to Barca's 9-11, depending on your opinion plus the galactic-class of Messi, we were bound to lose. And let me correct you, we have THE best winger in the world. Messi and Ronaldo are not wingers. Otherwise yes, you're right but the presence of has-been like Raul and Heinze in our team is holding us back. I'm totally against a clean-up. I just want more quality added to the team to put it on the same level as the others. Neither will I say Juande is the best out there but his record surely makes him deserve another chance, at least in my opinion. I'm saying be respectful in your comments, you used the term 'full of crap' which is offensive. I'm up for a good argument but disrespect is not cool. And I know saying 'Hala Madrid' doesn't make me right, it's just something i'm used to writing at the end...where'd that come from
today is not my day..
however, one year ago we knockedbarca down..
so I think with 4 singnings we could be in shape next year..
heinze and gago should not be in the starting eleven..so we need a left defender and a prooven central midfielder..I hope for clichy (chivu) and cesc (xabi alonso)..we also need a second winger better than marcelo, robben is a keeper..I would either take ronaldo, but I don't think we get him, or david silva..and we definitly need another striker who's world class..my take is benzema or david villa..if we sell players we don't need anymore we can afford players for each of these positions.. the top teams have 11 stars on the pitch, and real has talented players who are no stars today, but they don't lack talent.. wath do you say???
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Sorry I am not trying to disrespect you..I like discussing about these things anyway. OK soo here is my new argument...you say Barca has 9-11 world class players huh. Well if you read one of my posts earlier I mention this...but let me recap.
Yaya toure, pique, keita, became world class players in Barca. Puyol xavi iniesta are all products of barca..and same for young busquets who pep showed trust in him.
Henry until last year was considered past his best...and Etoo was almost sold. Sooo we are just left with Messii whoo yes is a better player than anyone in Real squad at this moment. Oh yea and Alves who ok world class but easily comparable with Ramos.
As for valdes ok he is only decent.
Sooo how all these players refound their form...or others became to be called world class in only a year???
Its Pep.. Under Rijkard they were all good but we still had a shot..bc ok he is not at the same level of coaching. And remember they had Ronaldinho at his very best...and Deco.
But its Pep that made them click. They dont miss a single pass....Xavi's ratio of completed passes is amazing. Now you really think that these comes natural????????????
No its all about the tactics and the coaching regime. You all keep talking about Raul ...but he scored so many goals these year and he is a natural striker.
But when you have running back and forth all over the pitch then he is bound to show his weaknesses in defending..and in pace.
Oh and Ronaldo and messi started out as wingers but were given more free roles by their coaches...it doesnt mean they are still not able to play better in the wing than Robben.
And I am not underestimating robben..he is one of my favourite players but still havent had the coach to nurture his talent. Mourinho did but England was too tough for him since he gets injured easily.
Anw looking forward to your response
Reply to pellos:
That's a nice argument but has Juande really had thr time to make those changes, he got 6 months, barely any control over transfer and not even pre-season to experiment. He recieved a team in pieces and was told to win a title or he's gone. Looking at those conditions plus his results, he's done a job good enough to deserve a second shot which is very unlikely but he should really get a full-season. If the season fails then sack him but nobody can deny he's tallied a great amount of points and set a few new records. Does a record-setting manager not deserve a second chance? I know he's going to get sacked in the end but I feel it will be an injustice if that happens. The Castilla point is a good one and if Castilla can make that crucial promotion to the Segunda then players will get more chances and i'm looking forward to seeing the likes of Opare, Alipio and Acuna strut their stuff. I'm also very much in favour of brining back Negredo who's a phenomenal player and worth the buy-back. We shouldn't let him go to a big club and then regret it.
Reply to pellos:
Oh and Robben does better at Real than he's done at Chelsea. But that's really not up to the coaching. He got so fed up of the coaching, he consults his own fitness coach
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Yeap you are right he didnt had a lot of time BUT, look at hiddink, he had less time and was still able to counteract the barca tactics. Also If you saw the chelsea - liverpool game it was a game full of tactical changes that could have gone both ways. Both benitez and hiddink are tactical geniuses.
On the other hand you have Ramos who only knows one way of playing. I am not suggesting we should get another coach for his reaults...which in fact were great and brought stability in the club but beacause he is plainly not a coach who can win titles in a period where tactics is the most important thing in winning.
Also he obviously doesnt have an eye for good performers. He has insisted on gago and he kept him in for all game both yesterday and against liverpool even when he wasnt doing anything.
I hope you understand what I am saying...he is an ok coach but not one who can beat teams with tactical coaches...his game is too obvious and predictable.
As for the young players..tottally agree with you. As soon as ramos came played pananca in a game or two...just to get some fans on his side...have you seen him doing that since then???
Not even parejo who came in with so many promising future hasnt played at all under Ramos.
He constanlty makes poor coaching decisions.
Did you know that Pep send Barca players out for vacation before the madrid match??
He told them go to the beach and have fun. Also he has kept rotating and keeping all of them happy. Small things like this in handling your players make the difference
I want to say that you should not blame juande for yesterday! he's no wenger, benitez or fergie, but he's a decent coach..
I think he wanted to run over barca and gain momentum..he missed it!
however, this year real is a team of mediocre players (compared to the elite) and he won a couple of games so far..what I want to say is, this team is no better than 2nd in Spain..we are as good as bayern or maybe lyon, but not liverpool,chelsea etc. we could have played defence yesterday and lose without trying.. juande is a coach who does decent with this squad..
Reply to pellos:
I didn't like the way Chelsea played against Barcelona tbh, it was quite disgraceful. But I am telling you, if Real would've played like that, it would've had a very bad effect on the crazy fans and in tern the team. Gago's no longer his first-choice, Sneijder is. Gago's the second-choice. And I totally agree with his descision to not play VDV there because Van der Vaart is way too attacking and does no tracking back whatsoever and that's not the type of playmaker we need. Van der Vaart should be played instead of Raul. Back when the Liverpool game happened, Sneijder wasn't playing in central-midfield, he was rotating with Marcelo. He played Palanca because we were short of players. I think it's stupid to take those risks in the league. the competition which is made for those players, we were eliminated from, the Copa del Rey i'm talking about. How can we rotate wiht such less depth in our squad. Would you take the risk of putting on Salgado for Ramos in a game? Or Javi Garcia instead of Lass? Though, you're right about one thing, he needs to develop a stronger bond with his team. His fitness regime is very impressive too. We've not been at the level of other top-class teams for many years. We weren't there under Hiddink, Capello or right now Juande. That's an extravagant bunch of names. Maybe it was really the squad, mainly the left-back slot and the wings.
and who is the alternative?
he has won trophies with sevilla, is Spanish, and sevilla played some attractive football under his charge..
give him spectacular players and he will succed..
lets face it, despite of robben there is NOBODY in this squad who makes me say U LA LA..no magical players...
and I got two questions:
1. how strong do you think huntelaar can be?
2. is garay a player who can start for real madrid next season?
Reply to Ludwig Hasbauer:
I want to see Moyes from Everton, He is a good disciplinarian and a good tactician and an inspirational figure. That would for me be the cheapest but better possible option.
The problem about acquiring magical players is that they are very expensive...Yes ofcourse if we got villa tevez silva ronaldo we would improve.
I am always talking about the current circumstance and how a coach can make the better use of them. And I still think we have quality players that other teams dont even dream of.
Even metzelder is in the Germany team, and heinze still is picked by maradonna. And all the dutchies are international level.
U just dont see how quality they are bc of the coach.
And I agree about playing attractive football...but come on after the 1-0 if we played like chelsea we might even be talking about winning the La liga today.
And maybe chelsea football wasnt beautiful but it was disrespectful they just exploited their advantages over barcelona. It was a tactical masterpiece
Reply to Ludwig Hasbauer:
Huntelaar is amazing but like RVN, you have to play to his strengths. Meaning, we have to pass the ball as much as we can to him and he'll do the rest, that's his job. And absolutely, i'm still in shock about how Garay wasn't recalled. He can play at left-back/right-back too, is an awesome set-piece taker, he's tall and he's very tough. He made Sergio Aguero and Diego Forlan look bad, and earlier on in the season, he made Eto'o and Henry look bad in the 1-1 draw where he got Racing's goal. He's a great replacement for Cannavaro. Just the type of player that fits into the Real Madrid category. Fast, agile and skillfull. He's like a clone of Pepe but more skillfull and less of a risk-taker. I would rate him as equal to Pepe.
I see a lot of comments about Ramos is not a good coach. People if we change our coach every fucking season we are not going nowhere.
Look at Man Utd. Alex Ferguson is 20 years coach of the club and they didn`t sack him after the seasons where he did not won the title.
And he got only 2 CL trophyes in 20 years.
that's nice, because I haven't seen garay enough..and you share my thougts on huntelaar..in my eyes he will be much better with a second quality winger..
if we can play a left defender, pepe,garay,ramos we'll have a pretty good defensive lineup..
by the way, when will perez have his press conference this week? if he's clever he's fast now..
Reply to Riken:
Exactly what i've been saying. We'll get nowhere like this. Ferguson did trash in his first season but look where his second chance has got him. Just give Juande a chance, he's earned it.
Reply to Riken:
so what do you want???real madrid to win 2 CL every 20 years!!!we won last two la liga titles but does it look like we r the defending champions...i think this year we were supposed to improve but what happened we just dont know....dont worry next year we will be agian here at this blog where angel of madrid will be defending the coach and the the player and the rest of them would be questioning his reasoning!!!!this club is slowly turning in to mafia corporation where decision r taken by a group of arrogant fans known as ultra-surs and we fans around the world r just left pissed every year..there is only one guy realmadridfan who happens to have some common sense and rest of us r lost in words..buy this buy that wont take us anywhere!! this club is a dying breed...sometimes i feel like casillas and higuain r too good for real madrid..what's the use of wasting millions on foriegn players when the result is same old boring football...bring in mourinho, wenger or what ever they wont last 9 months at this mafia club!!!
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Bravo!!! This is a true fan of real madrid. Fpr the rest fuck you guys!!!!!!!!!
You do not deserve to be a madrid fan.
we lost so what????
We beat them last year 4;1...
We need time, and there was to much preasure on the guys before the match, and we created that preassure.
To be honest Barca is a bether team at the moment...
Bye bye
Reply to trooper:
That's not what he means, he means stop sacking coaches so often, give somebody a chance.
Reply to trooper:
And yes, I would blame only a slight part of it on the coaches, most of it falls on bad administrration which has lead to an imbalanced squad.
Reply to trooper:
Though, you're totally right about the Ultra-Surs, them ignorant fools are helping to ruin this club.
Reply to Ravi:
The blog is more interesting when fans of dif teams chuting about the best game in the worl(football).
Reply to trooper:
You didnt won la liga for the past 2 years... We handeled the titels to Madrid
There is something wrong with many of you so called Madrid Fans. Especially when you want Ramos gone and players like Raul Gone. Granted I would not have started him but still he does bring something to the team. First of all I am not mad. I am actually happy because we played Barca at their game and we did not trow a bus in front of the goal like other teams have. We came at Barca and naturally they played the counter attack and they won. Robben and Higuain were the best on the field for Real. Every time they touched the ball the instantly had two or three Barca players on them. I was a little upset with some of the tactics like not playing Huntelaar, taking of Sergio Ramos, and throwing in Javi Garcia. This game sums up the problems that we have to address this summer. Defenders, a Winger, and a playmaker. We don't need strikers. Barca has proven that because the best players yesterday were Iniesta and Xavi. A player of their skills and caliber is what we need. So lets put this behind and focus on winning the last remaining games.
Reply to pellos:
You said that If Schuster was in Juande's shoes, he would collect the same posts. Guess what, Schuster was there and he ran away. He gave up. Actually, Schuster was the one who led us to being behind Barcelona.
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Great comment TheAngelOfMadrid! You summed up large part of the problems in a couple of paragraphs..
I just don´t get it how "fans" just couldn´t see this thrashing coming??!! This is the worst Real Madrid team in decades going toe to toe with the best Barca team of all time.. 6-2 just highlighted the difference in class between us and a top team in the world. I was so surprised by fans who were surprised of the large distances between our players! Juande has been playing like this from the first game he took over, basically 6 defending and 4 attacking. Barca on the other hand, 10 attacking and 11 defending! The same as Liverpool and the same as Juventus.. And still people are surprised..
But people please, this is not the end of the world, this does not mean we are going to become a team of the stature of Everton or Cagliari - get a fucking grip folks! Barca was in chaos in the late 90s and early in this decade when we were the team of all teams! Football, just like life, goes in cycles! We have (god say it is so) hit a low point and hopefully the only way is up!
There is lots to be said about Real Madrid but right now i also want to congratulate Barca on a fantastic season.
I will keep screaming HALA MADRID until i die!!!
HALA MADRID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alright folks, I admit I can't keep up with you. Lots of ongoing discussions in here. Though, I just want to say one thing. I might be wrong, but I still think it is not the coach who is to blame. Since the 2002/03 season we have hired a dozen of coaches and whenever we lost the fans blamed them. None of those coaches was capable of coaching Real Madrid? I mean c'mon, the club sacked Capello twice when he brought two La Liga's to our cabinet.
We just have this habit of sacking coaches whether they rock or suck. Those at charge all to blame. And to those who say that we need a coach who has a name for himself. Okay, If you were a Barca fan and I told you Guardiola would be a good coach, I'm 100% sure you'd say NO, he can't coach a big club like Barca because he is young and lacks experience. Guess what, he is making history at Barca -- right now -- and he made it in the Bernabeu last night.
In the world of football, names count yes, but how one goes about making a name for themselves? They start from scratch, If you believe in them, give them more time and they'll succeed. Thankfully, we have Juande Ramos who is already successful, so my humble opinion is to keep the guy and change other things in the club that I'll talk about tomorrow in more detail.
Reply to GrandeReal:
Well-said, and I forgot to mention that our lines are not well-connected. There is a lot of space between our defense, midfield, and attack. I'm sure Juande is aware of this, but given the fact he hasn't had a lot of time to change the way we play dramatically, I can't criticize him for this. We should be thankful that he got us where are now. Had Schuster stayed, we would have probably remained in 5th position which would have been a REAL DISASTER.
Welcome to the blog btw
Reply to Barca Fan_in the House:
It is normal. When there are two teams competing hardly for a league and the form of one of them drops, and the other team wins, it doesn't mean that the first team handed the title to the other one. Who would hand a title to its rival
? It is simple. The most consistent team wins. Even in life, if you want to be successful, you need to be consistent. 
Reply to Ravi:
how is LASS supposed to take care of the dirty work alone against arguably the best and maybe the second best midfield in the world, Barca and Liverpool respectively??!! Gago is not ready for the biggest stage yet, he is a great player in the making, but LASS is world class from top to toe! And if you cant realize that, please dont respond this comment!
Heinze is not a Juande issue, its a Mijatobitch issue.. The hole world saw that he is lacking skills and pace and still that son of a b***h did not address the issue!!!
I understand that you, just like the rest of us, is bitter, sad and frustrated! But if u cant stick to facts and behave on this forum, please dont come back! Hell, start supporting Barca or Manu...
Reply to Barca Fan_in the House:
yeh just like we didi this year!!!u didnt won we handed you the title!!!now how is this for a change
Reply to Senad:
I will never betray my club, I love Real Madrid and such losses hurt. A lot. I am still mad and cannot get over it.
I will continue supporting the club of my heart, but I want those pieces of shit - Calderon and Mijatovic to take responsibility for the disgrace they brought to us - the loyal fans of Madrid.
I want them to be stripped of their membership cards at Madrid and to be personas non-grata.
What they did was humiliating to me.
HALA MADRID!
Reply to helmet_09:
Well for Juande I am non decided. It is true, that he inherited a team but he failed at the most important matches.
Specifically for the this match, it was obvious that all problems came from Gago - replace him, draw the mid players to the defense and go for the counter attack. How on earth, Hidink realized that a team supererior than Madrid (Chelsea) should not outplay Barsa and should play on the counter attack?
I am 100% against bashing Raul - he is e legend and our captain and he saved us in many matches this season (Sevilla!). He should stay and retire at Madrid. We should respect our captain!
Finally, all I'm trying to say is that I miss Capello and Caldi/Pedja were morons to letting him go. Just remember the match at Nou Kamp (3:3).
Thanx Adam for the welcome, ive been writing here before but on another nick - just couldn´t remember it
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I guess my comment sounded kind of anti-juande but im not.. The coach issue is delicate right now. Should the new admin give Juande a second chance but have him sleeping on barbed wire (get the CL trophy or get sacked cause u are part of the Calderon legacy) or should they give it to a coach like Blanc and stick with him during the 4 years? I dont know mate... Juande have done what he could given the players he was given.. The stats, the points collected, the attitude towards the press and the world, the determination of the players suggest to me that Juande can become something big - but we must let him perform on the big stage for at least a couple of years! If we do not give him unconditional support then dont bother extending his contract!
Hell, i rather give the coaching duties to a worse coach then Juande as long as the admin believes in him and gives him the players he wants and the time he needs to build a team!
God, im just hoping a new president can come out and say - "Real is from now until 2011 under construction. We will do what ever we can to win all competitions we enter but we have set a goal of becoming the best team in the world for the 2012 campaign. And the manager in charge of this project is Mr XXXX! Thanx for your time, see you in 2012. Do you have questions about sporting matters - please ask my sporting director. Do you have questions about tactics - please ask my coach. Do you want me to predict the outcome of our game against Man U? Please ask the king!"
Its just a silly dream... I know it aint happening
Hala Madrid!!
Right guys everything has been said my own feelings are i do agree with Real madrid fan,you have guys like raul, guti who have connections on the board or management and are nomlonger playing well and are always in the team i mean raul what do you expect.get a few additions to the team and get rid of useless players evryone knows about them, try and keep Ramos because we have sacked everycoach that has come to madrid in the last four to five years. So by sacking ramos it means getting a new coach who will needtime to adapt and might possibly fail and get sacked again possibly before the end of the season then waht next try and get another coach a third one in two seasons thats wher madrid is failing. bring on the youth system as well and madrid should not be run by fans and the media but by the management. It seems there is a lot of politics that goes on at madrid that we supporters do not understand and do not know of.For your own information barcelona does not need a lot of work they just need to stay focused ans united then they will still be a very good side come next season so madrid needs to quickly sort out the problems and build a good team ,i always ask myself why are the elections taking so late to be done .what it means is less time for the new management to prepare its really surprising 14th JUNE 2009 FOR ELECTIONS WHAT FOR .this is where this team madrid has continous problems that never seem to end and its been years struggling to be on top and failing.Do you remember last year when we beat barca 4-i they were not playing well the minute barca plays well we do not match them why?consistency whether management or football wise we seem to swap chop and change everytime.my advise is if nothing proper is done then madrid will always struggle to reach the top they so deserve.
Why Adam and Angel of Madrid keep supporting "Who..ande" is something I can't inderstand!
The man is a complete idiot, and I have believed so for long now!
Just look at his tactics yesterday! The defence was nowhere! What is a coach's job? He tells each of the players what their individual roles are. And seeing that match, it looked as though none of the players knew exactly what they had to do! Everyone looked out of sorts!
THERE WAS NO GAMEPLAN!
Did u notice another thing? Juande replaced Robben before the match completed! For what? Is he keeping him fit for a Champions League 2nd leg clash?
Ha Ha!
Dude that was our do or die match!
Was he keeping him safe for the rest of the 4 matches?
We cannot finish 3rd! Sevilla are 18 points behind us!
Look at his other substitutions! He substituted Marcelo for Huntelaar, whom he should have started!
And why Raul starts every game? He is Real Madrid's Grandpa!
Then he substituted Sergio Ramos- a defender.
He also brought on Javi Garcia- a shit player!
Why he gives he and Van der Vaart a chance over Drenthe and Saviola, I fail to understand!
And where did Palanca go? He played so well at Camp Nou!
Why is Saviola not given a chance in any game?
He is still a better striker than Raul.
Neither Schuster nor Juande trusted him. Why?
Can anybody tell me?
Recall the game against Getafe! In that match Juande brought on Javi Garcia for Cannavaro and our defense fell apart! That's why Pepe lost his cool! He was furious with Juande's poor coaching decisions!
That night Juande's ass was saved by our players, otherwise he wud had been sacked that day!
If Adam and Angel of Madrid keep on saying that we should not blame the coach, then tell me why?
Real Madrid is not the only club, look what Chelsea did with Scholari!
And now Chelsea is in CL semifinals!
If Adam and Angel of Madrid were Chelsea fans, they would still be supporting Scholari! Why do u both make us fans feel like we are the ones at fault?
And about the continuity thing! Real Madrid is a democratic organisation, unlike Man U or Chelsea, where the Board and President are elected by the club members for fixed year terms!
So like any democratic country's elections, people can vote out the person they don't think has done a good job, here it is our coaches!
The club members pay hard cash for membership! How do u think they feel when they see their club doing so badly? They also are club stake-holders so they do have a say in what goes on at the club. The fact that Real Madrid is a democratic body is its undoing! Nobody can agree on one thing!
I THINK THAT REAL MADRID CAN ONLY BE SAVED BY FLORENTINO PEREZ! ANGEL OF MADRID U SAY WE SHUD HAVE EXPECTED THIS RESULT! WE DIDN'T EXPECT 6-2 DUDE! DO U KNOW THAT'S THE WORST DEFEAT FOR US AT THE HANDS OF BARCA IN 2 DECADES OR SO? AND THE WORST AT THE BERNABEU!
LOOK HOW OUR SHIT PLAYERS LET OUR LEGENDS SUCH AS RONALDO AND ZIDANE DOWN. POOR RONALDO PREDICTED 2-0 FOR REAL AND SAID HE WOULD BE WATCHING THE GAME WITH HIS SON, WHO IS ALSO A RM FAN!
CAN U IMAGINE THE PAIN AND THE SHAME, RONALDO MUST HAVE FELT WATCHING RM LOSE IN FRONT OF HIS SON SO BADLY?
OUR PLAYERS MADE RONALDO LOOK LIKE A FOOL!
I THINK HIS SON MAY NO LONGER CONTINUE TO BE A REAL MADRID FAN!
NOBODY LIKES LOSERS MAN!
EVERYBODY WANTS TO WIN!
I SHOUT ALOUD NOW:
" SACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK JUANDE NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW....."
I DON'T WANT TO SEE HIS FACE ANYMORE! OUR TEAM
CAN DO WITH THE ASSISTANT COACH FOR THE REST OF THE GAMES!
ANY BODY HERE TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS? I AM ALONE AT THIS MOMENT I THINK!
THEY WERE GREAT IN THE CL BEFORE, NOW THEY DON'T EVEN FEATURE IN IT! WHY IS THAT ?
I KNOW THEY DIDN'T WIN THE LEAGUE, THEY FINISHED 2ND. THEN WHY DON'T 2ND PLACE TEAMS FROM DUTCH LEAGUE PLAY IN CL?
RUNNERS- UP OF LA LIGA DO PLAY IN CL. WHY? THAT'S NOT FAIR!
Yeh mate well said about elegtions but i think they need to be a bit earlier than 14th june now that we know we have lost the league.on the coach iam not too sure who can come in and replace Juande for next season and do a good job what about mourinho is he not available and affordable.on raul oh my god that guy is now nolonger good for madrid his workrate his speed thats not ehat we need ut iam surprised they still want him for next season thats a big mistake. All he is doing is to block the likes of david villa coming to madrid why is there no mention of david villa wanted by madrid, to protect raul is that not so?if david villa ends up at Barca then you will see how much madrid would have lost out.
I still believe there is too much politics behind the scense when it comes to raul.Madrid needs to move in fast and make the signings they need for next season
Hey guys, whatever we say on thing is a fact - it was a HUGE shame, i have never felt so bad after watching football. I agree with previous e-mail that Ramos should stay, but i do not think that 80 % of our players have enough class to play in Real Madrid. Here is the list of players i think deserve to play in Real Madrid:
Raul, Casillas, Ramos, Cannavaro, Robben, Sneider ( maybe- Higuain, Diarra and Pepe). I wanna know who you guys think should stay in the squad.
HALA MADRID!
Mate ravi do not forget how many coaches have been sacked by madrid in the last four or five years and what achievements have madrid got from that.
At times yiou have to look at balance of the team and the quality which i think real does not have. look at gago and marcello they are no playmakers compared to xavi and iniesta that alone shows how much differents there is between barca and real.
Madrid needs quality and ofcourse clever play and quality passing and madrid do not seem to practice that at all and to some extent i blame the coach for not practcing quick passing and support in that match against barca you could easily see madrid failing to spring one two touch football something that can be done by any good footballerthis is where i blame some coaches including juande.
The next sports director should concentrate on the coach to play more one two touches and supporting the man on the ball plus opening up to receive a clean pass thats all real madrid is lacking and they need to improve on this and we will match barca and the other big teams.
Juande is a good coach no doubt about that. But I'm sorry he lacks experience against big clubs. He depends a lot on pushing the team forward through boosting there self esteem and such. The fact is we should not have played the way we did against Barca if we had wanted to win. We should have played exactly how liverpool played against us in the Bernabeu.
Whats done is done. I say we focus on rebuilding. I'm not sure if we'll be able to come back in form soon. Because one things for the club has lost a lot of respect this year from other clubs due to having clown presidents, coaches and mr.mijatavic.
I'll conclude what I'm saying here with one last opinion. If we want fast results. Raul has to be benched. Otherwise I really really can see barcelona getting stronger next year and us losing more like 6-0 or 8-0 in the bernabue if not more.
Poor cassillas can you imagine how many goals we would have conceaded from barcelona if we had "good" goalkeeper rather than a god send??
We NEED KAKA because we lack a true midfield orchestrator just like Casillas said they have xavi and iniesta and we dont we need KAKA,Ribery,Ibrahimovic,Lahm, and Bruno Alves.. so a projected lineup next season.. Casillas,Ramos,Pepe,Bruno Alves,Lahm,Lass,Kaka,Ribery,Robben,Ibrahimovic,Higuain.. bench Marcelo,Raul,Guti,Sneijder,Huntelaar,Gago etc... that is what I would like
According to as in one of their articles it says that Bosco leite kakas father said to people close to him that kaka would play in Florentinos real madrid next year. do you guys believe this because kaka is the one player with benzema that i would love in real madrid.
Reply to pellos:
thanks ! just speaking my mind out.
Reply to Phil:
HAHAHA! I'm not a girl dude
Reply to RAVI:
Let me tell you why. I'm fucking tired of seeing great coaches come and go just because they couldn't win a trophy. Ferguson didn't win trophies every year, Mourinho didn't, heck, Benitez and Arsene win trophies once in 4 seasons. The players you mentioned are not given chances because they don't make use of the little chances they get. Higuain did and he's untouchable. Robben made so much use of his chances that we had to bench Robinho. Sneijder replaced Gago after a single game. Huntelaar cemented himself after he got chances. Drenthe was never way too good though I don't doubt his potential. Saviola is totally not match-fit. Players such as him need to played in extra-competitions to see his form whereas we're out of the King's Cup. Were you following the Robben situation at all. He worked 12 hours a day to be there on time and he could not finish 90 mins, simple as that. To make him go through a whole game would be plain stupid. And no, I still say, there are better coaches out there but none of them are available. And please, I knew from day one Scolari was crap. We want stability and Juande is a good manager to begin it with. We're not even asking for him to be our manager for the next 5 seasons, just a second chance..a year maybe? The fact that you called Garcia crap proves my initial point, we have extremely poor depth to our squad for which the blame goes to Mijatovic and Calderon. And what are you talking about, he brought on Garcia because a)Cannavaro was niggled and b)We had no ball possesssion. The idea was great, the player was not up to the challenge. And we will make the fans feel at fault because we are the ones responsible for this. We, I don't mean each and everyone of us. Ever heard of an Ultra-Sur, those who practically run this club? They're ignorant fools. We're the laughing stock of the world because of impatient fans - FACT. I used to be like all of you. Thinking it was the coaches at fault but then I realised who the real culprits were.
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
The true culprits are not us fans, we're just a side-story. This whole mess was created by Calderon adn Mijatovic.
I was out of the country at the weekend, but I still managed to watch the full horror of the massacre at the Bernabeu. I'm not the kind of person to say 'I told you so...' but it was proof of several things that I had been saying here for a while:
-Juande is OK as a temporary coach. But this man simply can't coach Real Madrid long term. He hasn't got what it takes to give Real Madrid a backbone. 5-0 at Liverpool and now 2-6 against Barcelona. Enough said.
- The squad is very poor. We no longer inhabit the elite sector of football clubs, a territory that now belongs to the likes of Chelsea, manchester U, Milan, Juve etc... we are clearly in a second tier with the likes of Spurs, Valencia, Sevilla, Lazio, Marseilles etc.
- Despite this, we still believe we can play free flowing football without having to worry about the opposition. We are too proud to do a Chelsea and play with 1 striker up front in order to shut down the opposition. According to us, the opposition should be worried about what we can do, not the other way round. We are deluded mad men. That's why we'll always get thrashed by big teams. We need to be more realistic, and play with the tactics of a second rate team. Less fancy dan football, more steel.
-There are only currently 5 or 6 players who are unsellable. The others can go if there are good offers because they are replaceable. Sergio Ramos is unreplaceable. Lassana, too. Pepe, for all his hot headedness must also stay. Marcelo and Higuain have earned their keep. Casillas is one of the best in the world, but he has no decent competition at Real Madrid. The rest are not top class players and would make good substitutes in the best case scenario.
A new squad please.
Reply to Madridista4:
I would say choose EITHER Robben, or Ribery.
Personally I would let Robben go.
There is a reason why Chelsea sold him, you know.
Reply to Caracoleo:
Well-said. Though I would add Robben to the 'keep' list for sure. And I don't think a complete revamp is necessary, around 5-8 signings is enough but each signing needs to be worth it. And the free-folowing football thing is what I have been telling everyone in all my comments. The fans, mainly the ones in Spain are not ready to see us defend and the coach can't have the balls to defy them, such is their power. I also think Juande should be given a full-season to see what he can do with all the necessary facilities available to him, it's easy to say he's not a long-term coach when he hasn't been given a chance. Though I applaud you for the way you write, very nice but I have noticed something, you seem rather serious as i've never seen the usage of an emoticon in a single comment.
Reply to RAVI:
You are right in view. Juande is a mediocre coach. what's happened to Palanca? Also Bueno up front? What the hell!
Juande only picks Raul, because the the share the same agent, a guy called Carvajal. He also happens to be Guti's agent.
As for the democratic thing, I think it's stupid. Real Madrid should be run like a top class business, NOT like a state run by corrupt politicians trying to fill their pockets.
I WANT THE BEST PEOPLE RUNNING REAL MADRID - NOT A BUNCH OF CLOWNS!!!
Reply to Caracoleo:
They sold him because of his injuries and recently, Mourinho said selling Robben was the biggest mistake of his coaching career. They could consider selling him because he was injured too much but he seems to have changed and he's one of the Top 5 players in the World when fit. An asset we should NOT let go.
i think Robben is a super star he should stay iker ,pepe higuian .lass,ramos, and bring on david villa, silva or ribery another defender then lahm if possible kaka and forget about cr7 he wont come.get mourinho with his special attitude he will be good because he is the only one available to come forget about wenger, benitez ,and ancelloti
Can anyone disagree with me on this one.if madrid gets a new coach whoever it is then come midway through the season the team has not performed well or madrid loses to barca at the bernabeu on the ist league game of next season then that coach will be sacked.if so then lets agree that next season should be treated as transformation or transitional year and there is no need then to rush decisions get the right players and give them time to get used to playing together.
We got destroyed by barca because our midfield was nowhere near xavi and iniesta,also our passing was poor and we do not surpport the man on the ball just that is what is needed get a caoch to concentrate on that and pliz get rid of raul then madrid is back on top.look at the arsenal players no big names but look at the type of football they play,please be wise and get your facts right perez be warned do not waste get the right balance.