Sunday, 04 January 09, 05:42 PM · Comments (115)

So another 1-0 win has secured us another three points which is great. What is greater is that Arjen Robben continued his amazing form and newly signed players, Lassana Diarra and Klass Huntelaar, both made good debuts.
Ramos (Juande not Sergio) started with Casillas in goal, Sergio on the right, Pepe and Cannavaro in the center and Heinze on the left.
In midfield, he started with Gago and Lassana Diarra who replaced the injured Guti in the center, while Robben and Sneijder played on the flanks.
Upfront there was Rau'l who partnered new signing, Klass Huntelaar.
Performance-wise, Real Madrid were absolutely offensive and amazing. They repeated the same performance they gave against Valencia and what was similar was that they failed to capitalize on the chances and score more goals which is not always good and if this keeps going we'll lose matches even if we play well.
As usual, Robben was the driving force behind Real's attack. His pace and dribbling skills literally exhausted Villarreal's defenders and helped us put more pressure on them.
He scored our only goal after an impressive run through the right-flank. The Dutch winger came inside from the right and shimmied across the penalty area past several challenges before curling a hard shot into the far top corner, leaving Diego Lopez with no chance.
That was a piece of art...
But what was more amazing though was the performance of Lassana Diarra.
I had never thought he'd have made such a debut. He looked like he had been playing with Real Madrid for years. He looked solid and unbeatable in the midfield. He also partnered Gago very well which is pretty amazing since the two had never played with each other. This supports my point that Diarra was a good signing. Many people thought that we got it wrong because the guy had been abandoned by clubs like Chelsea, Arsenal and Portsmouth, but If this debut is just a little bit of what we'll see, the guy is absolutely good.
As for Huntelaar, he gave a good performance too although he was pretty nervous. He had a golden chance but Villarreal's goalkeeper, Diego Lopez, was faster and closed the only angle on goal to thwart the Dutch striker. The funny thing is that he got booked in his debut! Oh what a start Klass, but no worries, you'll kick-ass next time.
Sergio Ramos was fantastic as well. It seemed that Juande Ramos (eh, we have two Ramoses and two Diarras) had given him the okay to move forward and attack. I like it when Ramos goes forward, he is very dangerous as much as a striker (well, not really, but Ramos can pass defenders very well, because he is a defender himself lol)
Anyway, Sneijder, Rau'l, Casillas, Pepe and the rest of the gang had a good game too except Heinze and Drenthe. I'm not picking up on them, but the first was back from his long-time injury and I thought he had learned from his mistakes. I remember that he made a mistake, that hadn't Casillas been there, they would have equalized.
As for Royston, the rapper, well, he hasn't improved at all. In the last few weeks of Schuster's life as Real's coach, Drenthe was a starter and had a lot of time to improve but he failed to do so. Now that Ramos is the coach, he won't likely have as much time as he used to have so he better improves quickly or he won't see the light again that is the pitch again.
Villarreal were good at counter-attacks. They had many chances and could have equalized. Casillas made a fantastic save as he changed the direction of a header which hit the post and he saved our ass on many occasions.
The important thing is that we won. Although I'm happy with everything I think we need to improve our scoring skills. We need to score as many goals as we could.
This win puts us in third place just one point behind second place.
Hala Madrid!
Substiutes: Drenthe for Huntelaar, Van der vaart for Lass, Metzelder for Robben.
Man of the Match: Arjen Robben
A video of the goal:
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1-0 almost 1-1 damn. well the longer the distance is 12 pts the better hehe
We won! But Villarreal were really bad at taking their chances, I was quite surprised. Casillas saved our ass quite a few times - as did Diego Lopez for them. Gotta say we still didn't take our chances well - at least it wasn't as heart-stopping as the Valencia game though.
I can't help thinking that if those chances Drenthe messed up had fallen to Robben, or Sneijder, VDV, or even Raul, we would have scored at least one more. I thought Raul had a good game defensively today but was missing the edge up front. Thank goodness for Robben!
The Ramos/Robben combo down the right is looking very good right now. I do get very worried when we lose the ball upfield and Ramos is in the other penalty area instead of his own, though - although Cannavaro and Pepe were excellent in the middle today, plus having two holding midfielders made it less worrying than it might normally be.
On the other hand, surely we need to do something about our left flank. Not just getting a right winger so we can put Robben on the left, but doing something about the left-back position. Defensively, neither Heinze nor Marcelo convince me.
Ah whatever. Three points against Villarreal can't be a bad thing.
great win, Robben was the man of the match and Lass was superb
this is the type of players we were lacking,from the first game he was shining, I really hope that Drenthe can deal with the ball in front of the goal once in life, and I wish for Huntelaar the best start next game with Higuain instead of Raul and We'll rock Maillorca's net with goals
Hala Madrid!
Reply to Ad1gun:
In a future season, when Barca are 12 points behind Real, you won't find me on a Barca site gloating.
Somos caballero del honor. Hala Madrid.
Reply to phantompong:
CaballeroS. Sorry.
plz Adam I haven't seen the goal I want a link to ROBBEN's magnificient goal, I love this player his way ahead of messi and I'm sure he will always shine with El Blancos!
can't wait to see your comments
Reply to joe007:
I'm looking for it.
Reply to joe007:
Added one now. It is low-quality though, but that's what found.
thanks man it's enough
Reply to joe007:
You welcome. I just can't stop watching that goal. Fantastic!
Brilliant goal by Robben
(and I was right about the line up
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Guess Schuster was right about one thing...a few days ago he said that even when Real win...the supporters are manyatimes still unhappy despite wining....he seems to be right
we beat two top teams in the league and Barca were VERY fortunate to beat us guys!!!This is great I can't understand how some are still unhappy.
ROBBEN! I'm getting used to screaming that name. Oh boy how amazing it feels to have that special player on our team after what has it been 3-4 years
But credit to the entire team, Pepe was fantastic, Lass and Gago played equally good and Casillas was...Casillas
Though, phantompong said above, Heinze doesn't convicne, not does Marcelo since he's under-developed. The finishing was also pretty poor and Huntelaar missed a golden chance but he's new and has immense pressure on him so it's only fair to give him some time. Lass seems like he knows what to do though. Sneijder was great too, always running around and passing the ball well. I like what Juande's doing and hopefully, as we keep on playing that defence, they'll improve as a unit. Hala Madrid!
Reply to Daniel:
The fans are unhappy because Real Madrid is a big club that not only does it need to win, but also to win in fashion. We gave two fantastic performance against Valencia and tonight Villarreal, but we won 1-0 not because we couldn't create more chance but rather convert chances which is something we need to improve if we want to win something this year.
Now, had Villarreal been effective in front of goal tonight, our performance wouldn't helped us avoid a draw or defeat. It is a formula, you need to play well and score as many goals as you can.
I said it wont be easy, but at the end we won. Robben was fantastic, he made his own a chance and scored a fantastic goal.Also Pepe in the defence was briliant. I expect more attacking formation in the next game.
HALA MADRID
Reply to Adambader:
Damn it, I made typos and I can't edit them. C'mon OleOle let me edit this thing!
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
I think if we needed to loan or offload some players, they would be Drenthe for lacking BASIC SKILLs, Heinze for being nervous and always rushing and Javi Garcia if Lass kept playing like this.
Reply to Riken:
You have always said things that became true
for those of you who think robben is better than messi think again . seriously if you could chose between messi and robben you would never chose robben that is ridiculous
comeon are we forgetting who is better at everything ( shooting, dribbling, speed, passing) the only thing robben is good for is diving and getting injured. and if robben was better than messi why would you go after c.ronaldo (tbp) THINK BEFORE YOU POST.
For a New Year, for a new team...well done!!HalaMadrid
Reply to Adambader:
Well said
We need to start winning big because winning 1-0 really isn't convincing but it's acceptable against big teams but I really expect us to beat Mallorca by 2 goals or I will be very unhappy. It was still a great performance, especially by the Flying Dutchman and I see this as a good foundation for further development and Juande's starting to convince that he's the man for the job. Hala Madrid!
Reply to Ad1gun:
Who said anything like that? And if they did, they're being stupid and they're being a Madridista
There's no doubt Messi is better but Robben is amazing and he can really challenge Messi for the best Player of the Season if he stays fit. Ronaldo's a fag, really, I don't know why Calderon wants him. Us fans really don't. There are only two players I admire in the Barca squad and they're Messi and Iniesta, without both, you're really not all that good and it showed against Mallorca. Without Iniesta, you were pretty bad against a relegation side. Hopefully both get injured and are out for the season
Hala Madrid!
Reply to Ad1gun:
Who compared Messi to Robben? Both have their own different characteristics. And If I had to chose, I'd be in a difficult situation and it would also depend on what I want in the player. If I wanted a talented player who has pace, dribbling skills and CREATIVITY I'd choose Messi, but If I wanted a player who has LEADERSHIP, CHARACTER, PACE and powerful shooting skills, I'd definitely choose Robben.
Your question is just like: who is better, Pele or Maradona? C'mon!
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
I don't think the low score line was due to the team we faced, but rather to our ineffectiveness in front of goal, so even against smaller teams we'd have the same problems if we didn't work on it. The thing that we have worked on is the defense. We have conceded two goals in the last four matches (Zenit, Barca, Valencia and Villarreal).
Reply to Adambader:
I have also to mention that Ramos has dramatically changed the way the team plays. He also gave more freedom to the likes of Robben, Sneijder and Ramos and that's why they are so fired up especially Robben.
Wonderful goal by Robben although I wanted a draw because I'm a Sevilla fan anyway we are level on points and level on goal difference but what gives Sevilla 3rd place is that they beat real 4-3
What another mediocre performance, watch how barca tear teams apart. Robben is good but wudnt get in the top two teams man utd or barca..thats the difference
No No No!! We need to get rid of half the team.. wheres the excitement?? Huntelaar is not european class u will see. Free Palestine
Reply to Adambader:
That would be the ideal obviously...but small wins against big teams (and sometimes even small ones) are good too...as long as they're victories...besides Adam I wasn't refering exactly to fans like you...I was refering to "fans" like RobbenMadrid (no offence)
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i cant wait till we play you guys again because then you might actually try to win and leave more space for messi and etoo
Reply to RobbenMadrid:
robben can get into any team in the world and if you disagree you are damn stupid. barca have hleb and henry for the opposite wing and robben is better than them both. other than cristiano man u have giggs, nani on the wing and robben is better than them two as well
Reply to Ad1gun:
dude aren't barcelona exciting enough that you have to spend your time here. can't blame you though because real are that damn good. i can't wait till we play barca again. this time we can come out and show you how rubbish the barca defence really is.
Yess i am so happy for the 3 points.. but we need to take advantages of our opportunities and score more goals.. i heard that guti was having muscular problems so he could not play but Lass looked very very good.. hopefully guti and higuain recover in time for next weekends game.. I am still waiting Pedja for "that" winger... HALA MADRID!!!!!
Reply to Adambader:
i have to ask, how does robben have leadership skills but not messi? IMO, messi is a real leader so i would like to know what makes you say robben wins out in this characteristic. i would also venture to say messi has all those characteristics which you pointed out, in abundance. i've seen him exhibit plenty of character and leadership in the last two years especially,
Robben is the man. Lass played well and energized the midfield. Jan still needs time to get used to La Liga. But we can't rely only on Robben. Hopefully we can sign one more winger as soon as possible. Hala Madrid!!
congratulations all madridistaz , sweet victory and we got our 3 pts and thats what it matters to stay in the game , barca fans are just so frustrated for what happened last year and the year before and their 31 lost trophies so please go enjoy your 3-1 LUCKY victory and nag somewhere else .... offcoarse robben was awsome as usual and offcoarse messi is amazing aswell you cant compare a nuke with an atomic bomb lol , anyway what i liked the most is lass he was really solid. excellent game for him really do hope we see more of this fella , press were right for the first time this guy is the new makelele , as for huntelaar well didnt impress me like lass did but still its his first game and i really hope he gets adapted to our game really quick because he is CLASS no matter what huntelaar is a great player. HALA MADRID !!!
guys check this article out
Real Madrid coach Juande Ramos admits they may drop plans of signing a right winger this month.
"It may be the best thing that could happen," Ramos explained. "When there is a necessity (to buy), everyone wants to bleed Real Madrid. There are players that have a market price and then when we make contact it multiplies."
"That is not fair."
Reply to redsNblues:
can you please send the article.. i really do believe though that we do need a winger as a backup for Robben
Well.i've said that we are going to win 4-0,but we didnt although we made another clan sheet and that's important just like the 3 points,but i didnt see anyone in the comments praising Casillas on what he did yesterday,i think he was better than Robben who only had a few chances against Villareal,Lass and Hunte were good but Lass was better,he held both Senna and Cazorla in the midfield,also VDV tried to repeat his goal aginst Gijon with his back heel but i think it hit the hand of Villareal's defender (dont know his name).
Hala Madrid!
Hala Casillas!
Hala Robben!
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
let that winger be RIBERY!
Reply to Aquismaia:
i just won to remind you that the biggest loss of Sevilla in La liga since 1927 was aginst Real Madrid in Sevilla's home 0-8,can you believe this guys EIGHT!!
Juande Ramos choose to keep Palanca until end of season maybe thats why he says that they might not sign a winger in january
Yes, Lass played well but was not amazing he just played well and almost cost us a goal at the beginning when he tried to pass the ball out of the box you don't pass it out you bomb it out when there is the other team collapsing on you, but i just think it was due to his nervousness but he will get better,BUT did you not see the performance Gago put in crucial tackles making good passes that is why he is the starting holding mid and lass will have to back him up. I also just wanted to comment on M. Diarra when he first came to Real i loved him especially how Capello played him he held that mid nice and tight nothing got passed him even having to pick up after stupid emerson mistakes but when shuster came he started to drop and im not blaming him but shuster who did not know how to play him if you see the difference in the years he started floating more when shuster played him and that's not his game yes he did alot of running but just becuz he ran a lot doesn't mean he played well, but i think with ramos in charge now someone who actually knows his tactics M. Diarra will come back strong. YOOOOOO, whoever has FIFA 09 for ps3 add me spitty06 im tired of playing these losers who keep picking Man U.
Lass Diarra is obviously happy to play in RealMadrid!!He has so much time to improve!Klass was impressed too much,but showed good will!!!Time...
And there happened an one very interesting result yesterday!
Our always "black cat"-"jinks" Osasuna kept Sevilla behind us!
Perhaps just luck...I don,t know,but I am satisfied..not superstitious..
Lassana had a very good performance. i think him and gago should play more consistently together so that they can grow as a unit, as we will need to play both against liverpool. i think madrid should go for ribery this jan because of two reasons. first is that he can be a match winner like robben is for us in the league , and secondly he wil have had time to settle into madrid so that he is fully ready for next season. that said, it is really difficult to get him, but real should atleast try. real really shouldn't drop any points uptill the liverpool match as vilareal were the toughest opponent.
About the Liverpool match, i think that we will need to take full advantage of our fixture list compared to theirs. they have the FA cup against everton, as well as league matches against everton, chelsea and finally man city right before the madrid match. liverpool most probably won't be able to rest their key players against city as they must win and it is a team with robinho in it
Man what a news: The Walcoct can leave arsenal for just £400k
can u believe it? I wish we can grab him before Manchester city, here's the link:LINK
what u think madridistas? is he a good signing for us?
I think this guy is a perfect winger
Hala Madrid
sry guyz It's Theo Walcott
Real Madrid Moot Diego For Van Der Vaart Swap!!!!!
is that really true? i hope VDV can show some form in next game or he's gonna be swaped !
Anyway Diego is a great player too what u think guys?
LINK#Comm
Reply to alex:
i have in my PC its way better than in PS3
Reply to joe007:
i just think that Diego is better than VDV,i always say that to Adam but i dont know why he doesnt agree with me,so i think its going to be very nice if we swaped VDV for Diego then bring Walcott,its going to be AWSOME!
Reply to alex:
I use Real Madrid, PSN ID: NJ365. You would have never guessed I would pick Real Madrid, would you?
I can't wait for the Adidas live season updates so that I can add Lass and Huntelaar to the starting XI
Reply to redsNblues:
Wait just a minute, I read that article too, the guy asked, are you planning to sign another striker, not winger
I saw it on multiple sites, where'd you read it?
Reply to MadridPrince:
Oh You think in this way Robinho could help us, forcing Liv?Haha..sympathic..
good idea but I don,t believe it...Anyway I believe we could win Liv...somehow..Especially if master Gerrard maybee won,t be satisfied..or even could not play..let us give our best!!
Reply to Adambader:
i totally agree, drenthe's performance is awful, everytime he touches ball, we lose possession. He needs to be loan out and gain more experience. moreover, Heinze shows his weakness(he is too slow and not capable to move up and down)offensively while he always struggles defensively this season, while Marcelo's turnoff rate is still high(he is still too young to be a starter of a top team) the left back position is sth we need to concern at summer.
this is very good start for real madrid but this is definely not enough. Our team's quality is not yet as good as they were with the ZidaneFigo's era. Give a lot of credit to J.Ramos who aimed at the team's defense and we all witness the improvement. however, I am still waiting for some world-class players come in and lead us to win the 10th CL title. this is the only way for us to dominate Europe like we were at 2002. We need to bring in someone who is "already" world classbut player but not "potentially". Pedja and Calderon are doing terribly on this. Under their administrating,real madrid seems no longer the attraction for all the best player like it was b4. Even Santi Cazorla refuses us.....!! we need changes and I am really impatient with the administration since they seems doing nth but not willing to spend money even necessary. Where is the new winger, pedja??
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Benzema...Ribery...and don,t kill me please, C.Ronaldo!World classes which could be for us...but not before summer unfortunately..forget Aguero,Messi etc..only my little opinion..probably I am wrong..
Reply to davorreal:
I agree
and besides...don't forget...three whole years without winning a single title were the result of that era.
I think Pedja and Calderon are doing a great job...I think they only have one defect...that is the way they treat and handle some players...otherwise...excellent work.
Reply to davorreal:
if only he could help us in this way
. but man city are not a team to be taken lightly. what i was trying to say is that this liverpool that we are going to play isn't going to be the same as they always are in champs lge. normally they are not concerntrating on the league and putting all thier attention into champs league. also they are not using the squad rotation policy that they were so famous for. i think that this season because of these two factors there has been a visible weakness in liverpool. that said, they have always managed to come back from a match they were losing or drawing to get the full points and are sitting at the top of the EPL. If we can beat L'pool then there is no reason why we can't win the champs league
Reply to davorreal:
I think Ribery is world class too and Benzema is very close to world class. what i don't understand is why claderon and mijatovic went in for Villa and cazarlo so late when it was going to be tough getting them. and also why they aren't going for Ribery and Benzema when the only thing standing in the way of them joining the club is the fee that needs to be agreed with their clubs. both playrs want to come to madrid and if we put an offer in for them and it is rejected, they can ask for a transfer themselves
Reply to Daniel:
listen, the Zidane and Figo era that i said ain't mean the Beckham and Ronaldo Era. I critize Calderon and Pedja doesn't mean i agree with wut Florentino since 03-04. I totally disagreed that he sold Makelele to Chelsea and the way Florentino insisted the "zidane and Pavon" plan which utterly ruined Real Madrid and consquently caused the collapse of the brillant era. and he shouldn't have fired Del Bosque and If he concerned more on defense, we couldn't have won the 10th CL title on the past few yrs. BUt how about now, we won two consecutive La Liga title cuz we had good managers. But our adminstration rewarded Fabio and Bern with a dismissal. and you pretty much can see how "excellent" they were doing during last summer. Calderon spent all the time screwing around the C.Ron trade but gettin' nth but rushin' in signing VDV(Sneijder was injuried). IF he could get rid of Ronaldo and work on other alternatives, the injuried problem wouldn't have affected us that much. and this led us to lose Robinho(he did exactly wut Calderon wanted C.ron to do to man utd). Pedja was even worse, he didn't do shit after the C.ron signing was failed. He disregard to Bern schuster's signing request and left for vacation at the last day b4 the summer transfer market closed. this is wut u called "excellent", no kidding. Bern Schuster should bear some responsiblity for the team's failure but wut could he do with that broken squad, there were 10 players injuired and we ain't got not enough substitutes, esp winger. We'd only got robben after Robinho'd gone. and Pedja told the media that "real madrid's squad was already sufficient to compete for CL and La Liga. EVen a retard knew this was BS. and now, there is only 27 left for the winter transfer window close, let's how this excellent director can do. Excellent!?? LMAO!!
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
and i forgot to say that real madrid had not yet been albe to qualify to the quater-final in CL after Calderon and Pedja era began. as a fan, i began to lose the confidence that i had with the team since our team is no longer a giant on the CL.
Reply to joe007:
totally agree.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
First of all...look at all the young players we now have...such as Robben,Higuain,Pepe,VDV,Diarra,Huntelaar,Sneijder...no team can boast of having such quality young players...in my opinion...not even Arsenal. As for what happened last summer it was ONLY one person's fault...and that is Robinho....because he said he's leaving in the last few days.(infact until it became impossible to retain him...they weren't willing to let him go)...this team with Robinho with it would have been gr8.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
I agree with Anti-Mijatovic. calderon and mijatovic are terrible. you can't even give them credit for the excellent signings that real madrid have made. they may be because of the managers. calderon and mijatovic were wrong in apponting capello and schuster and wrong in firing them. capelllo never played attacking football and was brought in to win a trophy for real, which he did so why was he fired?? schuster played counter-attacking football and wasn't a proven coach so why hire him?????
we lost a world class player because of these two asses and the big ass in manchester. i have always believed, and still do, that robinho is a better player than ronaldo and he proved it too in brazil v portugal. many of you may disagree but i think that robinho is even better than robben. The only reason i didn't regret not getting ribry was because we had robinho, now we don't even have him. They should either resign robinho or get ribery now
Arjen Robben has said that he feels at home at right wing which is doing alot of damage to other teams because he cuts in and shoots with his left foot as we seen yesterday (Great Goal).. but im still wondering what happen to Luis Antonio Valencia as a backup for Robben
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
i have to agree with you on this one... but also Mijatovic have done some good things with Real. he has brought young, talented and trophy hungry players but i think that he is not the right man for this yob... he has totaly lost it this summer and embaresd REAL MADRID, beucause C.Ron who played us like fools and losing Robinho( who he couldnt replaced) and therefore putting us in a difficoult position... he didin't listen to Schuster opinion in transfers and the players that had to come and fill in positions that are needed( winger, left fullback, and attacker) and because off that i think that his responsibility for this situation in Real is bigger than Schuster's ... Now we sudenly want to trade VDV for Diego???? What is next? Wasnt summer the oportunity to bring Diego and a winger that Real is in desperate need for. You all saw what hapened with Huntelaar and Lass, we cant have them bought in CL... Who is to blame here???
the game against Vilarreal wasnt that good. in the second half they were better than us and could easily came to takeing a point in Santiago Bernabeu. they were attacking from the centre of the midfield and guarding our bets man Robben with three players because they know that our other wing is usseles. they concetrated only on marking Robben in defense and it was good for them. That's why Real need's another winger with such skill's like Robben and Ribery. BRING RIBERY Mijatovic!!!! it could be good for you...
or David Silva who could play in CL...
Reply to Rireal:
yes but try to understand this...we needed an attacker and a winger...which are BOTH the positions Robinho...and when he wanted to leave there was no time to buy replacements...I mean it's very easy to complain but I they bought a winger and Robinho stayed...Robben might have ended up on the bench...you have to put yourself in their shoes
about the vdv diego thing...that is what I meant by "the way they handle players".The Huntelaar and Lass thing is a mistake I agree...but I still think they were good singings
I agree Real Madrid should buy David Silva in January because he would help out Robben alot and would be able to play in CL because he has not apeared in uefa cup this year because he was injured for a while
why would Robben been benched?? He can also play as an attacker, so can Robinho
...! And the point that i was trying to say is that Robinho should have never left Real, and they( Mijatovic) had to take care off that. Talk to player and convince him to stay and that he is a vital player for Real. Why hasn't that been done? And would this be bad if have both Robben and Robinho in the team and if we could bring Ribery in...
Reply to Daniel:
I totally agree that the management made some good signings although I no longer believe Drenthe and Heinze were good deals.
if we have two great wingers than it will be a lot more difficult for our opponents to make a good defense against us. Vilarreal wouldn't have only Robben to take care of and they wouldn't be able to move three players to keep an eye only on him. in this case the other winger could have much more space and could done some serious trouble in their defence.
Reply to Rireal:
Thats what they tried to do..keep him...but if they did so he was so hard headed that he would probably refuse to play and train (like he did) and be sold in January for just about 20m at the most.
Adam...about Heinze I agree with you 300%....I always doubted how good he would have been for real...and honestly...he was better then I expected...so it comes to no surprise that his perfonmances were as they were
About Drenthe I understand your concern...but I STILL beleive that in the future he will not only suceed,but also become a big star
and i understand why he was hard headed after they wanted to trade him for C.Ron and some cash without his knowledge... in his position i would probably do the same.
whats done is done and is now over...
but i agree with you on Drenthe, in the future he can develop and became a great winger. maybe a loan would be a good solution for him.
Reply to Daniel:
Heinze is a piece of shit. I hope we replace him as soon as possible as he's the only part of the defence that is weak. As for Drenthe, a lot of you are really harsh on him. I mean sure he sucks infront of goal but he's pretty good otherwise. He runs and dribbles quite well, wins corners but yeah, he doesn't have the killer instinct. He should be loaned out because he's very talented and in a year or two, he'll be a wonderful partner for Robben but by that time we'll have the winger we need, hopefully. Hala Madrid!
Reply to MadridPrince:
Robben>Robinho in all aspects of the game. Even when Chelsea sold him he said he would've easily stayed and love the club. On the other hand, Robinho acted like a fag because were trying to sign Ronaldo, I bet he would've done the same if we'd gone for Ribery. Robinho's just like Ronaldo, he plays only for money and fame while players like Robben play for the team. As for attributes, Robinho was not as fast as Robben, he couldn't dribble like Robben either. Some of you might think step-overs are proper dribbling but they're not and Robinho lost possession a lot while doing them and showboating while Robben uses the raw form of dribbling with his twists and turns. I loved Robinho, he was and is one of my favourite players but sadly, he has no class. Robinho is probably as good or better than the Ronaldo of this season but nowhere near the Robben of this season. Sure, he's scored a few goals but he's playing as a centre-forward and that's expected. Though, it's matter of opinions and you have yours.
I agree about Calderon and Mijatovic's coaches mistake but they have won nearly as many trophies as Perez did in his entire tenure so yeah, it's satisfactry for me. Hala Madrid!
Robben is showing everything he has and in fabulous form this season. only if he has bit more luck with injuries and he will make every Real Madrid fan satisfied...
He is a pure class and is great to watch him play, pure enjoyment...
I think Walcott would be great and espicially if he only would cost us the amount. He is young and fast go for him now calderon before wenger gets a new deal done. Than in the summer bring back garay and buy benzema hes said it like a million times he wants to go to madrid. And maybe even ribery
Madridistas, any news on if we are going to sign a winger this january because i have been hearing that we will and some have been saying that we wont
i swear if i see another post match comments from any real coach saying "we had many chances to score" i'm gonna kick a puppy. if you switch your starting striker them maybe you can get goals.....when last (other than robben) has a midfielder score/winger score. gago had found the net once and he's been at real how long? if i had a dollar everytime this season raul missed an opportunity i'd be a millionaire.
Reply to Daniel:
Everyone knows how many great young players we've got now. But how much do we spent on them?? Pepe is not one of the best CB in the world but doesn't he really worth 3000? Higuan,Gago, and Robben are excellent!! but how much did we spend to acquire these younstas?? and then you count how much A. Werger did spend on his youth signning. Honestly, and Objectively,Fabrigas, Watcott, clichy, and Sagna, and Adebayor are no way to be worse than ours. And the point is how much arsenal spent on them. FOr us, it is a shame since we gotta spend big money to get this "young stars" who was "Potentially" to become "big star". Robben costed us 3600 and Pedja had so far spent 290 million euros on the transfer market after he came. This amount could definely have brought us some better alternative. Everyone knows taht Robinho was tripping with us and caused lots of problems. but as a club's director, they must need to set up some alternative plans as back up. Just in case if some players refused to stay, they could have brought the replacements appropriately, but wut did our administration did?? rushing in bidding Villa and Cazorla but ended up with nth. so who's to blame?? as the club's administration, they have the responsibility to handle all these craps, but not just leaving all this shit behind and went out for vacation. and they would never admit wut they'd done wrong but found sth or someone to blame instead. Im not here tryna persuade other Madridistas to back me up and im not here tryna say sth offenseive to you guys. This is my personal opinion and i gotta emphasize that i like all the young players that we've had now(except Drenthe), but i really hope our team can spend money "appropriately" and " adequately". I really hope to see some superstar who has the ability to change the game with his own feet.Robben is very very close to this but only one is not enough.
Florentino was terrible and had signed many wrong players too, but at least he didn't break his promise-he signed Figo the first yr he came. and look at our at 2000-2003,even we were doing horribly on defense, we could still dominate the midfield and the possession. the"Zidane Figo Makelele Cambiasso/Higuara combination were perfect. the style they were play was exactly like Barca is playing today. ANd the team we are having now, although having a much better defensive system, we are lacking "creativity" so badly. Last year we relied too much on Guti, but since this 31 yr old playmaker was not a consistent player and lacks of stability. we must sign someone else who can do it better. VDV doesn't like to hold the ball longer and this type of playmaker doesn't seem quiet suited La Liga and real madrid. Sneijder can be another Frank Lampard but definitely not another Zizou. and this problem is even more obvious when we were against some Germany and Italian teams. We've never won any away game against them since 2006. we could do nth against their solid defense. as a spainish team we gotta take advantage on our gd things. Euro 2008 proved that how good spainsh style football were against the others. Calderon and Pedja made me wonder if only Dutch players know how to play football. We have all the best players in Europe domestically so why we bother to sign some young players from outside of the country ?? why didn't we spend money on some world-class players and promote more young players from the youth system instead of siging from outside. Spainish football is brillant and creative. this is what other big clubs from Italy or england lack of. we gotta take advantage what we are good at. in 2001, Luis Figo led us to beat Lazio 3-2 at Olympico Stadium, our midfield were totally dominated our strong oppenent(Veron Nedved Simone) cuz our players were way better on skill level. the following year. We beated the new SeriA Champ Roma(leading by Capello and Batigo)2-1 away fr
in 2001, Luis Figo led us to beat Lazio 3-2 at Olympico Stadium, our midfield were totally dominated our strong oppenent(Veron Nedved Simone) cuz our players were way better on skill level. the following year. We beated the new SeriA Champ Roma(leading by Capello and Batigo)2-1 away from home, while zizou was absent. once again, we took'em down because he dominated the midfield with elegant short passes, dribbles and pace. even though we got owned by Junve at 03 since sucker perez neglected defenses, we still showed all the giant from Euro that we could take down everyone no matter where we were playing at, we were simply the best since we had the best players leading the team. But now... this football style is no longer existed. we couldn't even beat Roma at Home last season. And this season we couldn't do shit against Junve's solid defense(Robben's absence showed our weakness). If our team has someone like Kaka, Ibrahimovic, Diego, or Ribery, and Messi it couldn't have been better since acquiring one of them can give us more than acquiring couple more other players. we should be patient with the young players and they absolutely deserve their chances to develop, but not fxxkin' around when against some big ones. They still can learn as bench players. THis is simple, whoever is the best deserves to be a starter. whoever is good but not yet the best stays on the bench. signing big players are inevitable for the team'success. our two La Liga titles tied Perez's era's. But what can really statisify Madridistas----- The CL, no doubt about it, if anyone are statisified with a realmadrid with 2nd rate quality, i've got nth to say about it.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
i edit sth here, I admit that Pepe is now one of the best, not "not one of the best"
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
I agree with you
About the winger thing...I think Walcott might be good and also,some very good news to most of you (not to me)...I've just read that Milan have signed Pennant from Liverpool...so that's another winger out
Reply to MadridPrince:
hey guys you've got to hear this
Tevez is saying it he'd love to be in BLANCO
lol man how many players love to be in Madrid but how much we can sign? Ribery? Benzema who did express his love since childhood? or recently the powerful and fast forward Carlos Tevez? what do you think Guys?
here's the link:
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Well Aguero said that he would never play in Real!Tevez would like that, but now,after ManUtd refused him!And his best days are gone...I don,t know..
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Robben is better in some aspects but robinho is still a better player than him. robben has pace but robinho has much better technique. and robben plays for the team???? HA!! he is a greedy player, he always looks down and doesn't look at what great runs his teammates make. he also doesn't help out with te defnesive work which was the reason why he fell out with mournho. robben is great because defenders are threatened by his pace and he can change direction quickly. but robben can be marked out of the game. robinho was a pass and move player and not only got into good positions himself but acknowledged the great runs of his teammates. these type of players are much harder to mark out of a game.
he left because he got treated like dirt. Why is he about money???? because he went to man city??? he didn't reject madrid's contract because of the wage but because of how he was treated. firstly he wasn't allowed to go to the Olympics and then he was also seen as an instrument Mijatovic and calderon could use to lure ronaldo. He didn't choose man city because of his greed. its because madrid rejected chelseas offer because of their greed and he was desperate to leave to a club that could afford him. If he just wanted more money why not give him it rather than give saviola so much for doing nothing.
Also, Real are doing badly because there is no robinho. robben is a threatening force but robinho for us was that force every team needs and has except for real madrid now. I think the pair of robben and robinho would have been an unstoppable force. and if one (robben) got injured we would have had the toher
by the way just to clear everything up. i absolutely love robben (in a non gay way) but i love robinho even more (also in a non gay way)
Reply to MadridPrince:
It's unfair to Robben when you say that. Did you watch how many times Robben passed the ball against Valencia. Any one of us could've scored from thoise sitters. I think it's only fair for him to take a stand for once and go on selfish runs. It paid off didn't it? The player argument is useless because we have different opinions.
This is the fault of those who run the club. Injuries played a big part too along with other problems. Yes, selling Robinho was a mistake but he can be replaced, hopefully Mijatovic realises that Ribery is that replacement
Hala Madrid!
Robinho did act stupid. So what if he wasn't allowed to go to the Olympics, can't he take that much? Yes, he was used in the Ronaldo saga but so many players have been linked with moves like this. VDV for example is being linked with a move away from Madrid but he's confident he'll stay. Robinho acted like a real crybaby. Your saying we should've gone for Ribery, we would've actually signed a replacement then, Robinho would've reacted in an even worse fashion. Real are not doing badly because there's no Robinho! That's bullish talk. We are struggling because of a lack of reinforcements, not because of the loss of a single player. I say we're doing badly because Baptista left
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
I think Robinho isn't a cry baby....I honestly think he's stupid because he took the advise of his agent....who only cared about the money.
Reply to Daniel:
i agree yet disagree with Daniel he is not a cry baby but he is not stupid, he was ill advised when he was in a bad situation. Many people would call that manipulation and anyone and evryone can be manipulated so are we all stupid??? AngelofMadrid, i said we should get ribery becuase we now have no robinho, i also said (somewhere) that i was only not unhappy that we didn't sgn ribery coz we had robinho. Robben is greedy (but so is messi, c.ronaldo etc etc). you said he is more of a team player than robinho. how? against valencia higuain made a good run and he didn't pass the ball, what happened no goal. against villareal raul made a good run, he didn't pass what happened? luckily a goal. this is ok against smaller team but what about when we play against a big club, and this is our only chance. I have seen both these players play for the past 4-5 years and i am just stating what i see. all top players are greddy because thats what makes them good, robben, robinho, ronaldo, messi even kaka to some extent, so being greedy is not a bad thing. In my view robben is a cross between ronaldo and messi, and robinho is a cross between messi and zidane. i love zidane and so you can probably see why i love robinho - even though you may not see what i mean by he is a cross between messi and zidane
Also the player argument isn't useless. if we both had the same opinion then there would be no argument, and talking about the same thing would be useless.
saying robben is better in all aspects is not true. i pointed out to you those aspects which are worse than robinho's and you see it as unfair. what is also not true is that robben is a better team player and a leader (which i read somewhere here too). i would just like to say that only state those facts which there is clear evidence of. if you say things which aren't true like robben is a great leader or he has a nice ponytail, the people will argue against it and it will undermine all the great things about the player. (pretty much what i did)
Moving on.... Tevez to Real Madrid. Good Idea or Bad????? Personally i am not sure. he will give real madrid another very consistent match winner (in my opinion he is better than rooney and the stats point that way too this season). he is best as a supporting striker and do we really need him then? i am sure that he is a better player that he is more of a match winner than raul
but raul is the heart, pride and soul of real madrid (forgot to add
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I think tevez is good but we have higuian. Now who we should really get is Benzema in the summer everybody knows he is the best and he said that his dream of coming to madrid was becoming true little by little so i think calderon is getting a deal done. Maybe finnally he can get a good player.
Reply to MadridPrince:
I'm not saying we shouldn't have signed Ribery, he would have been and still would be an excellent acquisition. I never said he was a team player, I said he plays for the team. There's a difference you see. Robben plays to entertain the fans and to win the world over, sorta like Messi. Though Robinho, like Ronaldo is the type of guy who you can tell plays more for his own personal benefit than for the benefit of the team. It's complicated, you might not understand. Robinho helped us a lot and for that reason he is one of my favourites but I was extremely dissapointed with what happened. I also think Robben is not the type of player who should be made captain because he's the type of player who wants to really excel and captaincies can be a huge burden. I think Robben passed the ball WAY too much against Valencia. On a normal day I would've thought he should've passed more but looking at the finishing, he could've scored more himself. But that's a short-term issue which will take no tiem to fix. I also think being greedy is not a bad thing, players like Robben need to be given that freedom to be up there with the best.
The player argument is indeed useless. Some people still dare say Ronaldo is better than Messi whereas they're being foolish. It's like that. I say Robben, who took Robinho's starting XI place from him in a matter of games is better. You say Robinho has better attributes. When I say all aspects, i'm not talking about his skills or his technique. I'm talking about his attributes as a whole, off the ball situations, handling the media, knowing how to deal with things etc. I still feel Robben is a better player but that's my opinion, everybody has an opinion. Arguments are not possible with different opinions.
Tevez is not the player we need though he's an excellent talent. I'd prefer Ribery and Benzema instead of him because we need players like them more than the likes of Tevez. Hala Madrid!
Hey guys i was wondering has alipio mad his debut yet with castilla because i have not heard anything about him
I have no idea what Pedja has been doing but i believe that we need a good winger as a backup to Arjen Robben right now for end of the season.. there were talks about valencia but its has slowly faded away by wigans asking price of 18 million.. Real Madrid should look into South America and find a winger maybe we can find a steal as we did in Gago and Higuain
Reply to MadridPrince:
messi is not that greedy, he has pace and he is really good at anticipating whether or not he is able to dribble through the defender, he is an excellent passer. And you can see the brilliant combination play bw him and Daniel Alves. That 's sth we still don't have yet. But sergio and robben are gradually working on it now, actually the game we just had against villareal is better than the one against valencia. Robben tended to pass more. Objectively, it's unfair to compare Robben and Robinho cuz they are too different types of player. RObben is a traditional winger. he is faster and is able to drive all the way down to the flank side and cross the ball in(he changes the way he plays recently though, he tend to cut inside more). but technically, Robinho's move is more smooth and i personally think he suits real madrid's style a little more since he brought us more "creativity", and Guti likes to play with him and the "1 2" shot passes bw them made the ball movement more smooth and precise. That's sth Robben can't do yet. But RObben is way better on counter attack and he can attract more defender since his explosion is too fast and needed to be "doubt-team", but sometimes his run is way too fast then his teammates couldn't catch up. that' sth Messi can do better compared with robben, but robben is still young and has a lot of room to improve.
For all those who said Robben is greedy....I've checked the stats and Robben has the highest amount of assists in the league (6 assists).
He has indeed made his debut. I think he's played two games by now. He scored two goals on his debut for the C team
Reply to Daniel:
You are right but in game, you can tell he can be selfish but every one is selfish
Reply to Madridista4:
If we're going to look into South America then we should sign players other than wingers for Castilla too
Reply to Felipe:
I want benzema at madrid but not yet. i think we should make an agreement to sign him with lyon but for the 2010/2011 season, by which time raul and ruud may not last entire matches. the first player real should sign is ribery because out of the players who can play on the wing he is in the top 5 and the player that is most likely to come to real. the other 4 in my view are robben, messi, ronaldo and robinho. i don't think that we can get robinho or messi and i wouldn't want ronaldo.
i also agree with those of you who think real should sign youth players from south america because there are some real starlets. i think that they should play for the youth team like other youngsters do when they go to a big club. e.g. messi, fabio + raphael (man utd). i also think that we should place more of an emphasis on the youth system like the big clubs do. Barcelona, Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea all buy excellent youth players and provide them with a chance to step up to the first team. if we had a system like that in place we maybe wouldn't be suffering as badly from the injury crisis. For example if we had someone like Carlos Vela in our youth system then we wouldn't be going to the ends of the earth to look for a winger and vela would most likely be able to develop into a top class player by playing first team football. we have had top players and may still do but i have noticed that since calderon has took over him and mijatovic have made it somewhat of a habit of getting rid of our top class youth. Mata is the most obvious one, and i also think that soldado left because real of calderon's foolishness to sign saviola too. this way soldado could have got more of a chance
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Acording to wikipedia (reliabilty very very questionable), Alipio has made 5 appearances for Castilla scoring 2 goals. those goals must be from the real madrid C friendly
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Reply to MadridPrince:
I agree that Arsenal and Barca have great youth systems...but Liverpool,Man Utd and chelsea?
everyone now only concerns forward. BUt wut we really need to sign now is a winger. failing to sign a winger in summer makes it much harder to sign appropriate one for now because of the UEFA CL policy. and im totally in favor of the VDV and Diego swap in summer. Diego suits RM rather than VDV.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Even though Deigo's very creative and would really suit us. VDV deserves some time. Just because we got him for 9m unlike all our other over-priced signings doesn't mean he should be sold quickly. Diego should be signed for cash and Bremen would likely accept an offer. Hala Madrid!
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
vdv is a very gd player and i admit that he still lacks enough opportunity to prove his value. but his situation was kinda embarrassing now, cuz honestly, if sneijder wasn't injuried and expected to be out for 7 mths, i doubt if pedja would still rushed in signning him. and he was okay in the first couple games. So i agree that if we can get diego by cash. let vdv stay..
Reply to Daniel:
the last 3 buy very good players too for their youth team. liverpool especially. the bought lucas and kept him in reserves for a whil and they also stole one of the brightest young stars of real madrid, bruna as well as signing other youngsters that season. out of all the teams real madrid and barca produce the best youngsters but teams like arsenal, liverpool, united and chelsea go out an buy youngsters, chelsea not so much as the others
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
We shouldn't buy Diego even though i prefer him over VDV. We have really good players in the centre of the park, diarra,lass, gago, de la red, parejo, VDV and sneijder. i think we should look to give players like parejo and de la red a chance over buying playings like Diego. the only player madrid should sign for the centre of midifeld (including AM) has to be someone like Kaka, Essien, Fabregas or Gerrard or else no one. real should really look to reinforce the wings and buy a solid defensive left back because marcelo needs time to develop his game and i believe he sould be loaned out.
I am suprised at why Real Madrid have stepped down their chase of Arshavin. Still, I am hoping on having the following wingers for next season: Robben, Ribery, Di Maria, Nieto and Palanca