Valencia 3-0 Real Madrid | La Liga Review
Saturday, 09 May 09, 03:07 AM · Comments (391)
3-0
Another humiliating defeat for Real Madrid leaves us wondering what is wrong with the team that theoretically is able to win small and big games. It was probably one of the worst performances Los Blancos gave, and surely, this will be a turning point for many as the season is drawing to an end and there isn't much time for some players to prove their worth.
Bad selection?
Juande started with Casillas, Ramos, Cannavaro, Metzelder, Heinze, Gago, Javi Garcia, Robben, Marcelo, Higuain and Rau'l.
On paper this looks like a solid team, but it was simply unable to stop Valencia and create its own chances. Lass was clearly missed in the midfield, and it is crystal clear that neither Gago nor Javi Garcia are able to do what Lass can do. I've never been a big fan of Gago and never thought he was a world-class central midfielder and I still think he isn't. As I proposed the other day, Gago needs to be loaned-out, simply because he is useless.
Heinze and Rau'l are also other two players who should just go home and be a "soccer dad" instead. They are past it and they have to realize that. The problem with Rau'l as many of you know is that coaches don't have the guts to bench him and so even If Juande gets sacked, this doesn't mean the new coach will bench Rau'l unless that was Luis Aragones.
No playmaker
With two central-midfielders, two wingers, and two strikers, Real couldn't manage to create one single chance. Non of those players was able to play the playmaker role, and Robben was strictly marked by the Valencia defense and couldn't have an impact on the game. I think there was unbalance in our midfield, because Rau'l, Higuain, Marcelo, Javi Garcia and Gago are not creative players in the sense they create something out of nothing. In other words, they are not like Xavi or Iniesta who are capable to score on their own.
That's why I keep saying that we need someone like Ribery on the wing because he has all of these characteristics. Also a creative central midfielder like Cesc and Xabi Alonso wouldn't hurt, but finding one at the moment is pretty difficult. Additionally, our strikers don't have enough pace to run with the ball, and don't have dribbling skills to beat defenders and score on their own. Compare them to David Villa to understand what I mean.
Juande is not totally responsible
Juande has failed to win the big games, not only because he was tactically poor, but because of the squad he had. He has made many mistakes this half of the season, but trust me, hadn't Juande been there, God knows where on the table we would have been. I still believe Juande should stay because the problem is not with him. The problem is with the club's management. No stability leads to a lot of changes in the sporting department. Sacking a coach every six-month is not a wise thing, and pursing the wrong players is not a wise thing either, so for those who have faith in Senor Perez, please hope he'll bring a change.
So whats gonna happen now?
We have to wait until a president is elected to know what is going to happen. This will be one of the most interesting periods in the club's history and it will be a turning point for the club either in the right or the wrong direction. In all cases, I hope those who take charge will be aware of the real problems within the club and work on fixing them. It would be very depressing for us if they kept doing the same mistakes.
Goals
Juan M. Mata
29'
David Jiménez Silva
32'
Ruben Baraja
68'
Hala Madrid!
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known that coach we hav he is going to start the same team he normally start ....SAD ...
I would like to see Parejo start a game soon. from what i've seen of his performances as a sub he hasn't dissapointed.
I haven't been on here for a long time and i would like to address some topics. First, Florentino Perez. Yes he did make alot of mistakes last time but there are far more positives with his return. He has alot of money, he cares about real madrid's image (a bit too much last time) and he will most likely bring back Zidane. with his return we will be able to attract big names to real madrid, (ronaldo, villa and even cazarlo rejected us last summer).
Florentino's return means zidanes return. Zidane's footballing philosophys for real madrid are that they need to bring through more youngsters (let's not forget his son is in the youth team), have more spanish players in their team (possible signings could inlcude, cesc/alonso/villa/silva etc) and sign world class players (ribery and maybe kaka). So i'm backing florentno
Now for calderon: he cheated to become president, he appointed an incompetent fool to be sporting director who aided in calderon's quest of destroying real madrids image and make them the number one hated club. and finally he rigged the general assembly. Locking this guy up would be a huge favour to all madridistas.
And finally, i too beleive that Raul, Guti and salgado should be hounored and think about hanging up their boots. theses 3 are no longer fit for the footballing world of today and they should mark their end before a new era begins for real madrid. (hopefully the florentino era)
i just cant wait to see real madrid next season!!!honestly i am dieing to see ronaldo and ribery in white shirt.....
for pride and honour of RealMadrid...we should win
We need to finish the reaminaing four games of the season on a high note and it starts today and we will be wearing the blue jerseys I believe but lets hope we play well and win..
Reply to MadridPrince:
Can you please explain to me why should Raul hang up his boots?Do you know Man City offered 35MILLION for this 32yr old player?I don't think he should start every game....but he shouldn't get sold or retire or anthing...
As for the game I would also like Parejo to start the game...together with VDV,Torres,Drenthe,Garcia and maybe also Dudek
I think the lineup will be Casillas,Ramos,Cannavaro,Metzelder,Heinze,Gago,VDV,Marcelo,Robben,Higuain,Raul.. and off the bench Huntelaar,Parejo,Drenthe,Javi Garcia are all options.. lets hope we play a awesome game we need it we need to finish the season strong
Reply to Danniel:
I see your point about Raul but i say so because i believe raul is holding back the team. Raul won't be a starter in the team and on the bench i would much rather have ruud van nistelrooy than raul. the three players fighting for the first team spot should be Huntelaar, Higuain and i want the third to be Villa. thats Four strikers accounted for. You may argue that Raul can be the fifth striker in the squad but wouldn't you rather see one of the youth team players: palanca, bueno, acuna or szalai to be given a chance?
Reply to MadridPrince:
I don't think it's wise to buy Villa...don't get me wrong....I think he is one of the best strikers of the world....if not the best.However I don't think it's wise to make Higuain or Huntelaar stay on the bench.(If you don't beleive me watch the Tevez situation at Man U...it's exactly the same)
Therefore I think it would be wiser to start Higuain and Huntelaar....and keeping RVN,Raul and some youth teamer (maybe Negredo) on the bench
Reply to Danniel:
I think signing negredo back would be a big mistake as he is not yet good enough to be a first team starter and currently ruud van nistelrooy and huntelaar are both needed at madrid. negredo should be bought back and then either sold or loaned out to a team in a european competition so that he can get more experience. wehen ruud leaves maybe next season negredo can be brought back from loan and used in rotation with huntelaar.
As for the comparison to the tevez situtation, every player, no matter if its fernando torres, negredo, or even julian faubert, will be unhappy with sitting on the bench and eventually leave the club. If man u were to lose rooney for a season they would then have tevez to replace him but the problem is that tevez and rooney both play in the same position. tevez may be suffering but united are benefitting hugely from having such strong backups
Higuain, Villa and Huntelaar can play in any combination whether its villa and huntelaar, villa and higuain or higuain and huntelaar. and if we lost one for the rest of the season like we did ruud, or one is out of form, then we still have a world class strike force starting for us. Also if we had these three and ruud and raul decide to leave or retire in couple of years time, we can bring youth team players into the first team squad. If you have such world class players on the pitch you can risk playing some youngsters too like barca with bojan and buscquets and man u with evans and macheda
Reply to MadridPrince:
Negredo inexperienced? That's very debatable. He's elder to Higuain and a great forward. I'm really impressed with the lad and his ball control and tbh, i'd much rather have two consistent and pacey forwards playing if we can't play to Huntelaar's strengths. Negredo is great for the job plus he's Spanish and he's our product. We really need to retain the identity of being the club in Spain for which all the big SPANIARDS play for. Since around 1998, we lost that reputation. Good to have you back on the blog
Any way, other topics aside i hope to see a few changes to the team in this match. this is far too important a game for all the underperforming players or youth team players to be allowed to start. I think juande ramos should experiment only a litte in this match: theres no doubt that casillas will be in goal and the defence will inlude ramos, cannavaro and metzelder. i think drenthe should be used as left back. in midfield i would like to see gago and one of javi garcia/parejo with marcelo and robben on the wings. up front it should be huntelaar and higuain. with the exception of parejo this team is the perfect selection for juande ramos's style of football. two attacking speedy fullbacks and two fast wingers. he also has the two up front in a big man small man combination, and if its gago and javi garcia he has his two defensive midfielders
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Negredo is inexperienced in the sense of playing football on the big stage. like i said it would be best to sign him back and loan him to one of the teams playing in europe. ideally it should be one of the spanish clubs that make it into the champions league spots. and if our strikers remain the same as this seasons then the season after we can bring negredo back and get rid of ruud. For next season the three that strikers that should definetley be at madrid are ruud, higuain and huntelaar
Javi Garcia is starting he is replacing Lass Diarra lets hope he plays well
Reply to MadridPrince:
I also don't think Negredo is inexperienced and also if Huntelaar or Higuain get injured for the whole season...we'd still have Raul,RVN.Huntelaar and Negredo...4 players for 2 position....I think that's still more than enough.Nobody likes to be benched (obviously) but there are some who accept it more than others
'Can someone tell me why Raul should hang up his boots?'
Have you actually been reading people's opinions on this blog? You have a thousand good reasons why Raul should hang up his boots.
Earth calling Daniel... it's 2009... repeat... 2009... not 1999... do you copy?... 2009... repeat... 2009 ... Do you copy?...
Why do you vouch for someone who is ...
A) Fake?
B) Living off the Real Madrid shirt?
C) Limiting the progress of others?
Huntelaar is on the bench again, and Raul plays.
Juande go and ^&)^&^%%$£$£ yourself.
At least Daniel is happy,
Reply to Caracoleo:
Let me try to explain to you one final time...I DON'T want Raul to start each match...infact I don't want him to start any match...but there is a very big difference between being benched and retireing from footbsll...I'd like to point out that it is pretty obvious that many people still beleive that Raul still has football years left in him...Jurade,the whole R.Madrid squad,Man City. If you think they're all stupid and you're only right, then have it your way...I'm not telling you to change your mind...I'm just asking you to respect other people's decisons
We have absolutely no possession in midfield, we are being overrrrun - again. Junde has absolutely no answers for this.
Raul is completely lost. NOT A TOUCH!!!
Is that enough reason why he should hang up his boots?
God, don't tell me you actually believe that offer from Man City?
It's clearly just his agent having fun and games on a quiet day on the gossip front.
In any case I would say fine, let him go. I would pay Man City to take him off us!
27 minute gone, and we are getting swamped in midfield.
Gago and Javi Garcia both have yellow cards because they are alone in the battle for midfield, and now... Mata... goal! 1-0 Valencia.
Well done Juande. You've really earned your contract extension thanks to your game plan, and your relationship with Raul!
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLlll - Silva!
Juande you are really earning your stripes!!!!!!!!!!!
Raul claps Sergio Ramos' coss into the box!
You clap - I jus want to cry.
WHERE IS HUNTELAAR???????????????
38 minutes gone and Raul STILL HASN'T TOUCHED THE BALL!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply to Caracoleo:
dude i am actually laughing and simply dont know what is the reason behind this!!!!i am preety sure u all guys must be enjoying the match and wow man juande is a genius...
Reply to Caracoleo:
Common sense tells me that if the offer wasn't true...Man City would immediatly deny it
Please TAKE OFF JAVI GARCIA
HE IS TERRIBLE
Reply to Caracoleo:
and btw nobody can beat this realmadrid>>>>they r just invisible not invincible.....
You tell me.
People here say that Juande is the best thing that has happened to Madrid for a long time. Bloody Hell!!!
WHAT A CRAP MANAGER. WHAT A PILE OF DOG DOO DOO.
This is a walk in the park for Valencia - and let me remind you, THIS IS A SHIT VALENCIA.
Reply to Danniel:
Wrong.
If Man City denied it, it would e evidence that it was TRUE.
Welcome to the world of PR.
We should be 5-0 down.
We are shit today. Absolute shit. And Juande is shithead number 1.
45 minutes gone. Raul HASN'T TOUCHED A BALL.
Someone explain what the hell he is doing out there. Because I haven't got a clue.
Message to Raul: RETIRE FOR GOD'S SAKES - JUST GO, GO NOW, PLEASE, I AM BEGGING YOU.
i hope juande talks some sense in to the players cause they play awfule. i hope the second half real comes alive.
I don't know if you guys noticed, but there was this crazy guy on the pitch who was running around trying to get close to Valencia's defenders, and when he realised he couldn't, he started to run closer to the midfield area but people just seemed to ignore him. So to get their attention he started clapping his hands.
Did anyone get the name of that guy?
That weirdo is still there!!! In the second half.
Reply to Caracoleo:
let em guess it's iker casillas becuse it cant be raul as we all know he is not playin
Oh Wow Juande, that was good team talk ... NOT!
I can't stop laughung!
It's the same old story all over again!
That asshole Juande Ramos will never learn from his mistakes!
Look who he started again-Gago (I wanna kill this man), Heinze, Javi Garcia and our very own worst-enemy- Raul.
Juande starting Raul in place of Huntelaar is ur biggest and most obvious mistake. When are u going to grow up man?
And where are Adam and Angel of Madrid? They would both tell all of us that none of this is Juande's mistake! Hey u two ! Where are the TACTICS dude, u hear me? Tactics I said!
Juande's face looks like shit today!Like somebody died! Maybe it's 'cause he knows he is gonna axed!
To everybody: This is the REAL level of our current team mates, all those 17 or 18 consecutive victories were a massive eyewash!
We played such crap football to win those matches, sometimes I wanted Real to lose just for playing so badly!
And somebody go and kill Raul,Juande,Gago and Heinze at the same time 4 me!
And do all us Real Madrid Fans a favour!
Oh... so we need stability do we...? If that means keeping Juande then no thank you. I'd rather have his blood please.
joga bonitoooooooooooooooo~!!!!!1
If u hve any amount of dignity left in urselves then u would stop kissing Juande's ass!
Reply to ravi:
hahaha great post once again. Yea Juande once again shows his lack of tactics. Again sticks to playing two holding midfielders and yet we stil cant hold the ball for our life.
I am mean he really has nothing to lose now so why doesnt he experiment a bit??
I dont think I have ever seen valencia playing more comfortably with another team hahah ....they are even doing flicks
oleeeyy oleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee golgolgolgolgoglgolgolg!>!!>>!>!>have a nice time guys..i am going to sleep good night and takecare..
Is this Real Madrid or Sporting Gijon?
who was marking baraja??? Nobodyy soo much space..unbelievable
3-0
'I knew this would happen... the gap between us and Valencia is too great... we should just be thankful for what Juande has done for us so far this season... no other coach could have achieved this with is...'
And I say sack Juande for the remaining 3 games! We can do with the assistant coach!
THIS IS UNBEARABLE! THIS IS TORTURE!
DEATH BY HUMILIATION!
WAKE UP GUYS! WE HV TO SAVE REL MADRID! ITIS GOIG DOWN THE DRAIN!
Reply to ravi:
Correction: IT IS GOING DOWN THE DRAIN!
Reply to ravi:
did anyone saw casillas face?????poor guy he should join barcelona...realmadrid is not good enough for him
why did we gave mata away??? He is a great player and he plays in a position we are lacking players.
Ahh stupid transfer decisions
Plz make Florentino Perez the new president of Real Madrid tomorrow itself!
I can't take the torture till June 14th!
No need 4 any election formalities!
And btw plz tell the Ultra Sur to kill half our squad!
It really doesn't matter, but Marcelo, one of our least worst players, can't play next week because of that yellow.
3-0 and we are still in defence...and not a single good chance. That is so weird...usually when a good team is down on goals...it puts a lot of pressure on their opponents.
What am I missing???
Gago 2 days ago on realmadrid.com :
"We want to win our remaining games. We want to win for our fans!" -FUCK U GAGO! YOU MAKE ME SICK!
wow, 85 minutes gone, and Raul touches the ball at last!
This was what I was saying abt Higuain's away form! It's like we don't hv a striker! Only one goal away all year!
Valencia possession-81% !
Juande Ramos go back to coaching Tottenham!
Looking forward to Adam's take on this disaster.
I challenge him to say that Juande Ramos and Raul are good for Real Madrid.
Reply to ravi:
well they dont want him there either
Reply to Caracoleo:
I still think Ramos shouldn't be sacked, for the reason I outlined here LINK
But Rau'l should definitely retire.
I see not many ppl at this blog right now!
Maybe they are too ashamed to speak!
I pity them!
They don't hv the courage to face the truth, and instead live in a fool's paradise, by refusing to accept that our squad simply,and I mean simply, SUCKS!
Yeah and RealMadridFan I do think I can play better than some of our players!
Reply to Adambader:
Man u must hv got some balls to say that about Juande, after the cataclysm we saw tonight!
What is it going to take to make u think otherwise?
Looks like u hv been brainwashed!
Reply to ravi:
Why are you blaming Juande? Yes he makes mistakes, and made mistakes tonight but he isn't the only reason we are in the position we are at now. Sacking him wouldn't solve the problem. To solve the problem, you need to start from the club's management down to the pitch mower. Thats how you solve it. For the past few years we have been sacking a coach after another, are you convinced all of these coaches whee utter shit? We have sold and offloaded tons of players? Were they all crappy? I bet a few of them were, but what we haven't taken care of is the way we operate. The way the club thinks in terms of signings and footballing matters. What we've been successful at is only generating money and being a joke in europe.
For those people who are still kissing Gago's ass and still thinking he is world class. I feel very for u guys and i dare say i really doubt ur football knowledge. If u decide to look at this funny match again, i would suggest u to pay attention and to see what'd happened in " 03:57, 05:40, and 30:16,(in this one, Gago showed his BRILLIANT long-pass again and the ball land exactly where a VALENCIA player is, villa almost scored for it....LMAO). THese 3 silly turnover pretty much tell u wut i 'd been saying about this BRILLIant GAGO....i wanna puke.
Reply to Adambader:
real played really bad but today it showed more than ever that a lot of players aren't good enought for real. There needs to happen a lot for real can become an absolut topclub again. Even if we get ribary it doesn't matter cause our midfield sucks. The only players who played a littel bit good today were casillias, robben and ramos. the other thing i didn't get was that juande didn't put huntelaar in since not one of our strikes looked ready to make a goal.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
How come Gago is in the Argentina side?
Are they that short of players?
Reply to ravi:
With all due respect...do you support R.Madrid or not?Because I bet Barca fans respect R.Madrid more than you do
Maybe this is not fair to judge VDV but i just couldn't see that he was able to influence the team's midfield in those minutes he was in the pitch. I don't see he is the right person we are looking for if we really wanna play possession football. At a coach stand point, i just want to ask him a question, "RAFAEL, WHY DON'T YOU JUST TRY TO CARRY THE BALL LONGER?? WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS RUSHING TO PASS THE BALL??" I just don't get it? sometimes he didn't even have enough space to pass, but he still wouldn't hold the ball more than 2 seconds-he must either pass or strike it. That's why i'd been saying that he can be a great playmaker in a BUNDISLIGA team, but not a LA LIGA team. Ironically, i believe he has the ability to protect the well and his foot works are not even bad compared with Sneijder who used to carry the ball more. In my personal football philosophy, it's not sth a playmaker ought to perform. One is considered to be a world class playmaker has to have the ability to carry the ball around and create open space. Lacking of this will make the midfield lacks of depth and precision. Xavi sets up a great example. He would never rush to pass. if someone still doesn't get wut i'd meant, take a look at match again, pay close attention in VDV in the minute of 66:07 and 83:15. U will get my point.
Iam now confused about whether to sack ramos or raul coz of what is happening surely madrid needs to be fighting for the name but what i sa was the opposite no effort from these players at all.what about mourinho villa ribery and silva
Reply to real madrid fann 4 ever:
You are absolutely right mate! Plz try and tell this to AngelofMadrid and Adam! They can't see the naked truth right before us!
About Huntelaar you are spot on! I am also as bewildered as u are!
Somebody tell MF Juande THIS: "Juande! You hv got a 20 million Euro striker named Klaas-Jaan Huntelaar in ur squad! Do u know who he is?
He scored 8 goals in his first 10 games at Real Madrid. He was also the Dutch League's top-scorer for 2 seasons!"
Juande-"What? I thought that guy played for Barcelona!
What was his name again? Hunt...lass? "
There u hv ur dear Juande Ramos!
FU** HIM!
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Man Juande is driving all of us nuts!
Get a hold on yourself, people. I threw my hands up in the air at Gago's wonderful long pass too but you're only extending the stereotype of Real Madrid fans as impossible to please if you use such force of language. You wanna puke because of that bad pass? I wasn't pleased at that performance either, but let's not let our frustration overrule everything.
My thoughts:
1. Javi Garcia is a liability. Since he's a canterano, I thought we should be more patient with him despite his poor substitute performances, but he was truly awful today. He needs to go somewhere else if it's first team football he needs, because I don't see him coming back into the side for a long time after a showing like that.
2. I'll say Juande Ramos should stay. After the tactical mess that game was, I'm also beginning to wonder what direction Juande plans to take the team in - but, remember, these players are not his players. From day 1 he was under pressure to produce results and, with a squad like ours, it's no surprise his focus was on not conceding. I have no idea what's up with Faubert, but you cannot deny Lass was an inspired choice. With a pre-season and the time to build a team the way he wants it, we may see something different. Or we might not - in that case, then he should go. But not until then. Who would you want to replace Ramos anyway? And don't say Wenger, everyone knows that's not going to happen.
3. Raul. Need I say more.
4. If Ruben de la Red is fit to play, I would consider using him ahead of Gago next season; if not, I would try working Parejo into the team. I like Gago but he has been regressing. When your right back looks more dangerous offensively than your central midfielder, something is wrong.
5. Left-back.
Reply to phantompong:
His player his a guy named Julien Faubert!
Reply to Danniel:
Even Barca got rid of Ronaldinho and Rijkaard, both of whom played a big hand in their League and CL title wins!
I guess Barca fans give their playes A LOT OF RESPECT! Just like u said!
Why do u wanna make the fans the culprits? Lol! I am 12,000 miles away from Madrid! I didn't say anything to them to make them play this bad!
Ha Ha Ha1
Reply to Danniel:
I agree. If you love the team, stop yelling abuse at them. They frustrate me too but being a fan means being behind them, not getting in their faces.
If that means I'm insane or I don't have any dignity - fine. I think you're overreacting. And what you said has nothing to do with being passionate about RM.
Go ask a football fan from ANY other club and see what they say they would do if they were president of RM. I bet you #1 would be "stop sacking managers twice a season". #2 would be "bench Raul". #3 would be "forget the names - you must have some darn good youth players, if over the last few years you could afford to let Negredo, Soldado, Granero, Arbeloa, Mata, Cambiasso, etc. go".
Whereas it's the RM fans going #1 SACK JUANDE! #2 SELL EVERYBODY! #3 BUY EVERYBODY!
Hey Adam! The 3-0 banner is like a slap on the face! Plz get rid of it or make it smaller!
Reply to phantompong:
i agree, respect the team.. even though i was annoyed for the entire match also, wondering why juande still picked this squad after what happened last week..!
Reply to ravi:
I said I didn't know what was up with Faubert, and he isn't playing Faubert anyway. But you conveniently ignore Lass, and the revitalisation of Marcelo as a winger under Ramos. Picking on ONE fault of Ramos's and saying he needs to go because he made one signing mistake - out of two - doesn't constitute a valid argument.
Try arguing instead, that Real Madrid has had a problem beating big clubs this season, and we might have something approaching a valid reason to fire Juande. Or that his tactical decisions in the big games have been off. Or that the team he sends out every match has no creativity. Or that he won't drop Raul. The Raul one aside, you'll notice that the rest are typically rectified by - yes, a chance to let Juande Ramos build his own team.
Reply to ravi:
You don't know how to make a point mate
Reply to ravi:
I should make it bigger.
RAUL MADRID ..........HMMMMMMMMMMMMM...WHAT A POOR GAME OF FOOTBALL.....CAN'T WAIT FOR THE SUMMER TOO SEE WHAN KINDA CHANGES IS GOING TO BE MADE ...WE NEED MAJOR CHANGES ....FOREVER REAL MADRID..
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LINK
"I'm only thinking about finishing my career at Real Madrid, which is my club and where I still have many things to do.
"When they told me of City's offer I didn't have a single moment's doubt. My place is here and I still think I can help the team win titles."
You're holding back my team dude!!!!! take the money and run!!!!!!!!
Reply to Adambader:
Reply to ravi:
Are you pretending to be stupid?
because if you are, you are really stupid, so don't try pretending, we know you are stupid. Really. 
Reply to phantompong:
hey dude, don't even say a word b4 u complete gets wut someone means in his comment. I'd been saying that Gago doesn't should reduce his turnover rate for a long time and the reason i said i wanna puke is not ONLY because of one single freaking pass, it was because he keeps turning over again and again. Maybe u didn't see my comments b4 but do i freaking really have to care about this?? make sure u fully understand wut someone means b4 u critisize.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
it's simple. I will never cheer for those players who are not in real madrid's level. Unlike some great player like Saint Iker, I will still cheer for him even though he made mistakes cuz he really deserves to have the respect. SO are Lass, S.Ramos, Pepe, Robben, Higuain, and Huntelaar. Cuz they deserve to play in real madrid.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Yes, I agree, Gago has been very poor lately. And I may not have been clear either - I didn't mean Gago only made one mistake. I meant that having as strong a reaction as saying you feel sick watching him play - either you really feel sick, in which case please go to a doctor, or you don't and you're using it as a figure of speech, in which case I think you're overreacting. It makes me sad, it makes me angry, it makes me frustrated, it makes me pissed off, but it makes me sick? I find it too strong. Telling someone "you frustrate me" is very different from "you make me sick".
I notice you were the one who said "I wanna puke", but my comments were not actually directed at you. They were meant for someone else.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
ill also add VDV to that list.. i think that he should stay, he can be our zidane, and he is as good as kaka when he is in form.. look at his ajax days, and hamburg days.. the guy is fantastic.. nex season, we should go back to our old 4-1-2-1-2 formation..
back line- s.ramos,chiellini(even though i highly doubt he will leave juve)pepe or garay as the other center back, and at left back santon from inter..
our holding midfielder should be lass(obviosuly). on the wings, ribery and robben, or ribery and ronaldo, or ronaldo and robben..
VDV should play behind higuain and benzema or huntelaar, as a central attacking midfielder,or as a centre forward.. (i prefer benzema over huntelaar, but don't get me wrong, huntelaar is still a great player)..
Reply to ravi:
ravi? what's your problem dude? you're picking fights with EVERYONE..! and you keep talking as if you are such a great footballer, well, we want to see proof.. ill upload my vids soon.. what about you?
Reply to madridtrini4:
Yea i think Benzema is a much better player he is exactly what we need and since lyon might not even make the champions league next season he might want to leave. As for Huntelaar i don't disagree that he is a good player but i don't think he is the striker that will lead us to victory in any game he doesn't seem to have the fight to be the best and want to be the big time striker like Ruud, F.Torres, villa,higuan and even eto'o, besides that one nice goal against atletico madrid he spends his time getting pushed around by smaller players and winning to the refs.
Reply to madridtrini4:
time will tell, i'd been watching him for a long time since he was in Ajax. and i think it's pretty clear that VDV and Kaka are different types of player. And i don't see it's convincible to say he is as good as Kaka even with his Ajax and Hamburg performances. and i gotta say sth to make it clear, he is a great player.
Reply to alex:
yeah, huntelaar is a great player, but he is not van nistelrooy.. but i guess that's because he hasn't adapted to life in spain yet,unlike RVN who immediately adapted..
I think everyone here has summed up the performance well. No motivation and no depth to the squad.
I created a quote for this match...
"GAGO HAS TO GO!"
Rubish player I don't think he has 1 inch of hope. Ruined the season for us. Thanks bye.
I didn't even watch the game and thus wasn't awake to reply to your..whatever this is your trying to do. I didn't watch it because the team had lost motivation and honestly, I didn't care anymore either. We are going to lose the title no matter what. In the process though, you're seriously degrading yourself. You really think what you think about me and Adam, other people care about? Heck, they would, if you could tune down the abuse. I can't believe i'm saying this but i'd take babz, a former user on this blog over you. At least he knew how to make a point. Show some respect, okay? I'm not your dog, heck I don't even care what you think about me, just respect the other on this blog. What's it been for you on this blog? 2-3 weeks? Nice joke. You should take a look back on your comments and see which ones you got a positive reply for. As much as our squad sucks and as much as Juande's showing his one sided-ness, you need to stop thinking you're so big. Nobody here will listen to you or respect you if you can't argue a simple point.
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
This was a reply to all of ravi's comments btw.
Reply to ravi:
That made me laugh..NOT! If you seriously had hope for the game with Barcelona with Gago running your midfield, Heinze on the left and no Pepe, I advise you to think again. They are lightyears ahead of us. Anybody who didn't see the defeat coming was just thinking out of hope and bias. The Valencia game was equally as predictable because a) Valencia wanted it way more, b) We have absolutely no depth and c)Gago and Garcia were running the midfield. Have you seen Valencia's attack? We can't handle them without Pepe. To prove i'm not jumping on the bandwagon, go read my previous comments, I stated over and oover again before the Barcelona game, don't get your hopes up. My only hope was Robben bu his team wasn't up to the challenge. Same case with the Valencia game, we had no motivation to play, no reason to fight anymore, they on the other hand had 4th place to fight for. I'm not saying that these results are exactly what I expected by I expected us to lose both. We'll probably win next week but that will be because Villareal are on a torrid run of form, not because we're any good. I have to say though, as much as I want stability and want Juande to be given a second chance, he needs to have a second tacic. Lets hope Sneijder and Guti can spark our attack for the rest of the campaign for which both should be ready.
Well Gago and Marcelo are both suspended for next weekends match with 5 yellows
I like Juande but I dont like his formation or the way he plays because he plays with 2 holding midfielders and 2 wingers meaning there is no true center midfielder or attacking midfielder that can hold the ball and keep possesion and feed the ball and that is what I dont like and the reason Sneijder struggles is because the formation does not fit him and he has to come back and defend a lot.. he needs to change his formation if he stays on as coach next season
Well after watching last night's game I just think it was a case of Valencia playing absolutely stunning football, and Real Madrid showing that they still have not recovered fully from the Barcelona defeat.
I thought everyone, including Casillas, had a poor game. He made one great save, but the second goal should have been saved, and he almost made a similar error a little while later, and could have conceded again.
I agree with the point of lack of creativity, but to be honest, we did not have that much creative play in the last two seasons as well, but still managed to win the league comfortably. Infact since Capello's time, our style of football is no longer what it used to be.
Like I said we finished 18 points ahead of Barcelona last season (I know Villarreal came second), but this season Barca have really picked up their game and are playing to their full potential or maybe even beyond it.
We have also missed Ruud van Nistelrooy a lot. His crucial goals last season (and even in the early part of this season) are priceless. Also I think his combination with both Raul and Higuain makes our attack more potent.
The one creative minded player we do have is Arjen Robben, and according to me, he has played in best football in a Real Madrid shirt, only this season. Guti also is good, but injuries and inconsistencies have made his contributions less effective. I also blame Juande for choosing Gago over Guti, because I think the midfield combination of Guti and Lass works best for us. In other words, Guti>Gago.
But I do not think Gago is a bad player. Infact I think he has tremendous potential but has probably joined a club too big a bit too early. Central midfielders usually (there are exceptions) learn to ply their trade gradually before becoming seasoned professionals, and Gago is no exception to that. I think we should stick with him, and use him in a squad rotation basis, where he works to prove himself.
Reply to losblancos_dxb:
great points.
We need a new midfield. We lack creativity and technique to hold onto the ball. i think a clear out is needed of the midfield. i would get rid of robben, VDV, Guti, and J.Garcia. Replace Robbens world class talent with ribery and add Mata and Xabi Alonso to the team. I would keep gago as he can develop into a top player, look at what happened with cambiasso. next season we will also have the two diarras and hopefully de la red. there is also sneijder who we need to keep because even though he had a poor season he is a top player.
The Defence needs some major signings. i would get chiellini, zhirkov and another good left back. If many of you don't know about zhirkov he can play anywhere on the left like drenthe, but unlike drenthe he is a good tackler, passer, dribbler, and he is capable of scoring. we should keep metzelder unless he wants to leave and we will have garay next season too. getting rid of heinze, drenthe (maybe loan) and salgado is a top priority.
The manager also needs to go. I admire what juande has done and if we keep him and make good signings we can win something next season, i'm not sure though that i want to watch madrid play juande's style of football as he is unable to use a playmaker and he is also not brave enough to drop raul.
people ask in times of trouble "where is superman?" I am asking "where is Perez?"
I think people blaming Juande's style of football should remember the brilliant attacking football his Sevilla side used to play. I think it all comes down to what kind of players you have, and our squad is just not the flair type.
I am not against flair, but it alone will not solve our problems. Defence indeed needs to be changed. Basically we need somone who is like how Cannavaro was three years back. We need a Hierro type player in center.
The manager needs to go. And go now with his tail between his legs. He banked on Raul - that's reason enough to get sacked, but incredibly, there are other reasons to get sacked if that one isn't enough!
1- The team is lined up to fail. There are gaping distances between the midfield, and the attack. Gago can't play as a defensive ball winner, like Lass, and is generally hugely ineffective. He should be getting the wingers to play much closer to Gago and Lass.
2- The youth team has been completely ignored. Do we really want someone who is just going to ignore the talent we have in our own home? Not me. I want a concerted plan to introduce the likes of Bueno, Alippio, Szalai, Opare, Palanca etc. Juande will NOT do this.
3- He has completely ruined Huntelaar, a highly effective predator. To see Raul play 90 minutes game after game, and have Huntelaar (or even Saviola) on the bench makes me sick.
I did not expect Juande to turn us into Brazil 1982. What I did expect was for him to turn us into a more effective, logical and proud footballing side. Give us something like your Sevilla side, for Christ sakes! You didn't have any fancy ball playing midfielders then, you just played straight forward, effective counter attacking football.
Those who say we should keep Juande, I'd like to know "what for?"
If you give Juande, Ribery - do you think that will solve our problems?
Of course not. It clearly won't because Juande doesn't know what to so with players like this.
He doesn't know what to do with Van Der Vaart, Sneijder, Drenthe, Huntelaar, Saviola...
You might say these players are rubbish, but, they were not rubbish before they signed for Real Madrid.
It is an oversimplification to say that we are playing rubbish because we haven't got the players. This squad is not 6 goals worse than Barcelona, or 3 goals worse than Valencia. That cannot be an accurate depiction of the quality of our current squad. If that were true, that would make us equal with the likes of Betis, Gijon, Getafe etc...
The fact is those teams know how to use their players better than we know how to use ours. And that's Juande's fault.
What a disgrace!
Reply to Caracoleo:
1 - I agree as I dont see Gago fill in Lass' role very well. At the most, I could see them playing together. But then Lass was injured, and we do not have anyone like him, and Javi Garcia failed miserably. Its easy to blame Garcia, but he isn't really match-fit and the Valencia midfield is pretty awesome.
2- To be fair to Juande, almost every Real Madrid coach has ignored our youth. Atleast Juande gave chances to Palanca and Parejo.
3- Its easy to say but Raul did score a hat-trick against Sevilla which was just two weekends ago. I dont think Huntelaar would really be able to change yesterday's result, because the game was lost in midfield and defence.
I would like to keep Juande because I want some stability at this club. Get the right players in midfield and defence, and its problem solved. Pepe and Sneijder are world class players who have underperformed this season.
Reply to MadridPrince:
nth offensive mate, but i really think it's funny to sell Robben, VDV, Guit, but keep Gago....!!
"potential"!!!
Fernando Gago is only 22 years old and really has potential to improve. But i don't see any place in a team like real madrid to such a "potential" player. If u talk about a potential player, i'd rather to give more chance to De la Red and Perjo than Gago.
Gago has joined real madrid for 2.5 seasons. he had made 1536 passes so far but his pass accuracy is only 80.8%, which is so poor for a CM. And look at Xavi's 90.1%, we gotta ask ourself that if this is why we were so behind compared wtih Barcelona. Marcos Senna also has 85%. and Ironically, some barca defenders like Puyol 88.1% , Marquez 86.2%, and Pique 86.9% can even provide more accurate passes than gago- who is playing an extremely important role in our formation. This is pathetic.
He needs our assisst standing for this season, but ironically he is only the 9th in the La Liga.
In the valencia match, he had only 5 blocks, 13 times dispossess, 14 wrong passes, 2 fouls, and 1 yellow card...... I think this data indicates that if we wanna establish a team with perfect, a player like this shouldn't be included in the starting 11 no matter wut. I won't bury his potential and maybe someday he really can reach the top rank. But sorry, not for now!!
Reply to Caracoleo:
I agree with everything you've said, but can you tell me why none of the coaches we've had managed to do all of that? Do you think because they all don't get it?
I'm gonna tell you what I think. I think it is because they all didn't have time to make these changes. You just can't reshape a team in a season let alone in six months. Coaches must be given more time -- changing them every six months is really dump.
Also you can't promote Castilla players all at once. It should be done systematically. Capello started with Torres and he is doing a good job now. We should have done the same with Mata whom I think should be brought back. It is just the changes that keep occurring at the club is what disallowing these players from having their chances.
The bottom line is, as long as we are not a stable club, no coach will ever achieve the success we demand. Heck not even Fergie or Wenger.
Our defence is our best line. I know it sounds crazy, but it is!
We let in goals because our midfield is non existant. Mata receives the ball at the edge of the penalty area for Christ sakes. Robben receives it miles from the penalty area.
Ok lets keep Raul for the next 3 years because he scored a hattrick. Great solution. All we have to do is wait another 3 years for with him playing every available minute so he score another hattrick.
we are not analyising EVERY COACH REAL MADRID HAS EVER HAD! We are talking about JUANDE. You're saying we have to keep him because he isn't much worse than of the others we've had. What kind of reasoning is that?
I'm saying we have to find the RIGHT coach.
You're saying that we are losing because we don't have enough match winners.
WRONG. We are losing because we DON'T HAVE A SYSTEM.
Reply to Caracoleo:
You missed my point. Can you tell me why on earth did we sack Capello? Was he a crappy coach? NO, Calderon was a jackass. Why on earth did we sack Del Bosque? Sold Makelele? Didn't sign Ronaldinho? The club's management has been so dump and it is the main reason we suck.
A change begins from there. I don't care if Juande stays or not, what I care about is a change in management and philosophy. Even If we bring the RIGHT coach as you say (lets assume it is Fergie), I'm certain he won't succeed because he wouldn't have the time and freedom to make decision. A jackass like Calderon, Mijatovic or Perez will tell him what to do and mess things up.
Just my 2 cents.
True - the club's management is terrible. They always start off with some grandiose plan and it disintegrates into a farce.
You know my views - I say go public, and get floated on the stock exchange attracting the biggest brains in the business world - not the biggest egos as we currently do.
In any case, that is no excuse for the lame performances we are seeing under Juande. Compare it to the thirst for battle we saw under Capello... God it seems so long ago now.
Reply to Caracoleo:
I was just saying why Raul was played in that particular game. It is easier to blame a selection after the game.
And regarding the coaching thing I was just saying you pointed out the error of ignoring our youth as Juande's problem alone. Where as all our previous coaches (even the successful ones) have done the same.
And yes we dont have enough match winners. Our system was working fine prior to the Barcelona game.
Believe it or not a defeat like that is hard to take even for the players and even the best players might not be able to perform at their best after that. Finally, the way Valencia played yesterday, few teams would have been able to beat them anyways.
Reply to phantompong:
haha I couldn't say it better than you did...you're 100% right.
Everybody is once again already critisizing Huntelaar...he hasn't even spent half a season!!!
Also,I know Gago isn't playing up to par but I repeat....WE NEED TO HAVE PATIENCE...I'm not saying he starts every game or anything...but he should be kept.Otherwise the same thing is going to happen over and over again.We don't need a big change in terms of players...we need a BIG BIG change in mentality
Reply to Adambader:
I wrote what I wrote without seeing what you said...which is basically exactly the same haha....sorry Adam...I agree with you though
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Your stats are really good, but I would like you find Xavi's passing rate when he was 22. He is certainly one of those players who has become better as he has grown older - typical central midfielder. Someone like Guti on the other hand was played as a striker, attacking midfield, winger. I still think he combines well with Raul and RVN.
I can safely say that we would have won the liga this season with Ruud. His goals were missed and is what made the difference. But then his absence let Higuain get more gametime.
Reply to Caracoleo:
Like Adam says, at the moment, it's not a matter of who the coach is, the fact is, we've lost at least 10 great coaches because our management messed up and managed to blame everything on the managers. Okay, sack Juande but bring somebody who you're willing to give a long-term project to or it's pointless ain't it? Juande has shown his weaknesses and I agree he's not the best manager out there but there's no point if we keep on sacking manangers. I, for one only argue Juande's case because I feel we never get a chance to understand to know a manager if we let him go in a year and don't listen him about trasnfers etc. Perez will come, along with him a coach who will be sacked in his very first season because he didn't win a title. Go ahead, sack Juande but PLEASE bring in somebody who you'll actually give a chance to, that's all I want,
Reply to Caracoleo:
you are absolutely right.but lets face it,our defence have always struggled against players with pace even if with the help of great midfield.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
22 years old for a centre midfielder. midfielders don't reach their peak till their late 20's. If we let him go it is a decision i think we will regret. he has shown glimpses of brilliance and it is only the big matches that he has failed in. VDV is not a centre midfielder he only played well in one match where he was used as an attacking midfielder and because he had two creative players behind him in gago and De la red. Guti is at an age where he should be at his peak and he loses possession of ball more than gago and atleast gago has the capability to win it back. Its OK for young players to make mistakes as they can learn from the mistakes but people like guti shouldn't be making mistakes.
I only think robben should go because i believe we should only have on foreign player on the wing and out of ribery and robben i prefer ribery because he is a better player and less injury prone than robben. the other player on the wing should be either silva or mata as we need more spanish players in the team as pepe, diarra, higuain, huntelaar and hopefully ribery (if not then robben) should be starters and i think the two other defenders will also be foreigners. that leaves ramos and casillas as the only two spanish starters hence why we should get a spanish winger and defensive midfielder
hope that makes sense..
I'm despairing - really really despairing at what I'm seeing on the football field.
I want the team to play with guts, character and intelligence. At the moment it really doesn't matter if you have Kaka, Ribery or Cristiano. Without those three qualities I mentioned you GO NOWHERE.
You guys are satisfied with so little, it hurts me. You guys are happy that we line up with someone who used to be good in the last century simply because we owe him so much. You guys brush off one humiliation after another saying it's the president's fault. You are happy to stick with a proven loser, just for the sake of stability?!?
Godammit! I expect my team to have a bit of fire in its belly, to show they actually have some blood running through their veins. I expect people to stand up and be counted, even when they get things wrong - not hide behind presidential incompetence. I expect my coach to be able to motivate the players to go out there AND CRUSH Valencia, not flop around like jelly. I don't expect them to play thrilling one touch football, but I expect HUNGER, DESIRE AND INTELLIGENCE.
The last time I looked Valencia didn't have Ribery, Kaka, Cristiano or even the likes of Robben.
Stop making excuses. Find the weak links. Replace them.
Reply to Caracoleo:
very good Caracoleo...! nicely said.
Reply to Caracoleo:
Very very well-said.
Reply to Caracoleo:
These ppl are never gonna agree with u!
No matter how much evidence u give to them!
I can understand u completely, unlike some others on this blog!
It's like if u don't go with their opinion, all of them gang onto u like wolves, to prove u wrong!
I hv a hunch some ppl might be using 2 or more different usernames to comment on this blog.
Funny hw some opinions seem to get endorsed by everyone, even if they are wrong!
Reply to Caracoleo:
well said ....
Reply to Adambader:
Hey man why are u always harping on the past? U can't change history! U see what Juande is doing to our present and future?
I am saying one thing :Juande has not done anything to warrant his job extension at Real Madrid. Why not give another person a chance? Most of the squad is going to be new anyway! Why not a new coach?
All I want is a fresh start, a NEW BEGINNING!
Why are u so skeptical abt a new coach? Atleast see who Real Madrid bring in.
Wait and give the new coach theory a chance to succeed. If the new squad and coach don't turn this around, then I will eat my words!
But atleast don't be so apprehensive abt a new person coming in.
And btw we sacked Capello because RM played like shit that year! Scoring goals in the last 10-15 min. of the game to steal a victory.
WE did not deserve to win the title in 2006-07 !
We only managed to win because Barca screwed up late in the season.
Do u want to win like that? Taking advantage of other ppl's misfortunes?
I am still not proud of that title we won that year! It was stolen from Barca. We did not deserve it!
The story in 2007-08 was completely different!
We ran riot and played attacking football, defeating Villareal and Valencia by 5 goal margins!
We even destroyed Barca 4-1!
The end of last season was so exciting to be a Madridista! Barca were in disarray- Ronaldinho gone, Rijkaard gone, Eto'o abt to be sold;
Ppl saying things like "This Real Madrid team is filled with young players.They have a bright future ahead of them!"
And then everything went wrong because of the curse of the Man U fan! They were furious abt the Ronaldo affair!
Rest of the damage was done by Robinho- acting like a child and leaving Real Madrid, and by Calderon, Mijatovic and perhaps Schuster, who sat on their laurels and didn't bring in re-inforcements for Baptista and Robinho!
A great promise from last season I saw turn to dust b4 my very own eyes- Wesley Sneijder!
Man he is not even a shadow of his previous self!
Reply to Caracoleo:
-Fans who don't want their great club to get humiliated week-in week-out! Fans who will not accept such humiliation for their beloved club!
Fans who hv got a passion for Real Madrid! Fans who pore their heart out! Fans who don't try to seem politically correct!
Fans who don't want 2nd class players in this club (because they didn't deserve to be here in the first place!)
Fans who hv given their hearts to Real Madrid!
Fans who don't want RM to get raped in CL every year!
Fans who would die to uphold the dignity of this club!
Fans who want their great club to once again rise from the ashes and achieve greatness for another century!
Fans who would tell their Grand children about their life-long devotion to Real Madrid; who would tell them the tales of the Galacticos!
Reply to ravi:
There you go with the arrogance again. Even though I completely agree with the lad, it really pisses me off that you're so quick to call other people wrong. Opinions aren't wrong. It's ones take on a certain situation and it's foolish to call them 'wrong.' And tbh, the way you call readers wolves..*cough* *cough* somebody need to re-read his comments. You're imposing your opinion as if it's the only right one. Please, i'm saying this for your good and the good of this blog, show some respect. You have some very solid points to present but the way you present them, people will gun you down like an F-22 Raptor.
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
The disease is onto them, yet they won't kill the parasite!
Reply to ravi:
Wesley is still way better than Gago. The reason I also like the 2006/07 season was because the players played their heaert out in each and every game in the second half of the season. The way we won was ugly but to win it like that against Barcelona felt ever so good. I don't think most of you understand me and Adam at all. We don't defend Juande much, we want stability and we want a coach who we can keep for at least 5 seasons. I don't know how long you've been watching Real but it hurts a lot when I hear people saying things like, 'Real are a joke, sacking managers every 6 months.' You make a good point saying a new coach with a new set of players would do no harm but i'm only willing to accept this nonsense of sacking coaches like they were trash if Perez can keep a coach who can build on this team filled with potential. I'd be willing to accept Juande's departure as a step forward ONLY if we keep a coach for a time-period in which he can build a team.
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
About trying to prove other ppl wrong: Maybe it's 'cause my Zodiac sign is Libra. Google "Libra personality traits". U will find out urself about the Lawyer and the Judge. Our sign is the scales not for nothing! It means something. It means to give judgement without any emotion or sympathy 4 the parties involved. To look at everything like it really is! And then to fight for the truth, for jusice and for what u believe in!
Reply to ravi:
I meant justice, sorry!
Whoever wants Jurade sacked isn't mentioning better available coaches.Atleast from the many many mentioned nobody has convinced me a being any better than Jurade.It's very very easy to critisize but you have to come up with solutions.
Look at Wenger...everybody was saying how great he is last time...his arsenal got trashed twice at home...against Chelsea and Man U...is that any better than Jurade?(Don't forget...he's been at Arsenal for a very long time)
Ancelotti has been at Milan for quite some time too..and it's now that Milan are getting a few good results this year.
Ranieri's Juventus is having a really really bad streak...and so is Spalletti's Roma.
Well my point is that I don't think there are any coaches who are better than Ramos available.
look angel it is very apparent that juande is not a tactical coach whether u provide him ronaldo,ribery or what ever on the wing!!!manager like rafa benetiz will still find ways to kick our ass>>>and secondly who is firing juande???his contract will expire so let him go...
and we should ask ourself what do we want more CL or la liga..i can garenntee u we will go unbeaten in la liga with juande if he is givent he type of player he want but he is takin us nowwhere in CL..so the best solution is get a coach who is tactically sound and that wha perez is looking for!!all i am sayin is hope for the best and plan for the worst cause even if u post 500 comment son this blog recommending different ideas noone is going to give a shit about it... 
Reply to Danniel:
Maybe we can hv some former Real Madrid player as coach, someone who feels the same passion for Real Madrid as all of us, and who can instill the spirit and character of Real Madrid in our soon to arrive new players.
We can learn from Barca's Guardiola!
-I don't hv many names that fulfill that criteria. I know only Butragueno and Valdano or Hierro, maybe ,or Sanchis or Zamarano, or Suker?
Maybe others can shed some light on this?
Have people forgotten who our team just fell apart under Perez despite having some of the finest players on this planet.
I am not saying it will happen again, but am not sure if his coming in is actually going to change the state of affairs.
Reply to losblancos_dxb:
And did any coach of those hired during that period fixed the problem? We solved it when the main problem "Perez" was solved.
Reply to trooper:
Yes, while I am not against making changes, they should be carefully done. Stability, as I mentioned before, is required first. Otherwise we'll keep making swooping changes after every season when we dont win the league.
Reply to Adambader:
U hate Perez as much as I hate Juande!
He did bring us home a CL or two if I am remember correctly!
Reply to ravi:
Mr.Ravi, you are a die hard Real Madrid fan and we are not, we know that. God knows how much time and effort I dedicate to Real Madrid everyday. God knows how many "risks" I took for Real Madrid.
Anyway, that's not the point. You are basically saying Juande is utter shit. Okay, nobody said he was the best coach, BUT, listen to this because I'm tired of repeating the same goddamn thing. SACKING JUANDE IS NOT THE SOLUTION.
What has to be done first is electing a management that gets football. A management that dedicates everything it has to the club and not to itself and its members. There has to be stability and experts needs to be given the freedom to take chances. Do you realize that it is like mafia at Real? Everyone is picking their friend for positions? Calderon brought Mijatovic, and Mijatovic brought Capello, then Calderon got pissed off at Mijatovic and sacked Capello and was going to sack Mijatovic. They are assholes.
Even If we bring whoever you think is the best coah for Real, he will not succeed unless no more jackasses run the club.
Reply to ravi:
forget about juande mate!!! r u watching how villa real r handling barca in ther own backyard>>>>it's all about pace pace pace pace pace....invite them in ur half and then counter them..that what chelsea did and that's what villareal r doin....ironically that is not possible with likes of raul, gago
Reply to ravi:
I am now more excited about seeing RM Castilla's matches than our first team. No I am serious!
I will hv to watch the matches on myp2p though!
Reply to ravi:
His contract thing is totally irrelevant. And I don't hate Perez nor anyone else. I'm not gay either
Reply to Danniel:
here is couple of names to your question?
Blanc or Bilic .
One is doing a great yob with french side Bordoux who is currently better than lyon, which is hard to do because Lyon is a stronger side with better names. And not even that, Blanc is pushing in a first team a 19 year old player( who is returning him a favor with excellent plays) in the end of the season when every point is crucial for wining a league. That takes gut's..!
the other one is one of the best in new generation of coaches, like Guardiola, Blanc, Laudrop etc.
he is on the other hand doing a fantastic yob as a coach of Croaotian national side who thrown out England from Euro 2008. not onla that but before that he coached U21 croatian national side and pushed in the first team MODRIC, EDUARDO, RAKITIC and PRANJIC who is a summer target of Benitez who want's to bring him to liverpool.
these two are great tactician's and they have guts to work and push forward a young players.
Reply to trooper:
That just means we shud get ready for one more thumping next week!
Reply to ravi:
What went wrong for Villa there?
Reply to Adambader:
Where did that come from?
Reply to ravi:
hahaha... nicely said on 2006/2007 league. but i don't agree with you on robinho thing. the only one who is to blame for that situation last summer is mijatovic for not renewing his contract, delaying it, makeing him as a part of a transfer deal and who knows what else...
Yes, he is a sensitive player but that's what Miatovic had to now and realize that this is not the way to treat a player...
Cadleron and Mijatovic are the main problem in this club.
Those retards thought that Ribery is not a Real madrid quality and missed the chance to bring him even when Zidane praised him at that time and recomended him to the board. One is gone and the other one is leaving... PRAISE THE LORD...
just wait a second and let me eat my words!!!!!
Reply to trooper:
great tactician knows how to produce the best from his team and players that he has at hand. many times he displayed that he doesn't know what to do with Snaijder and VDV, that he can make the best formation with the players we have and adjust it to the teams we play against.
If we didn't have Casillas on goal the final scoreline would be bigger than 5-0...
Reply to trooper:
What's the score mate?
Reply to ravi:
3-1.
As the title is already gone, why can't we give players like Saviola, Drenthe, Huntelaar and Faubert a place on the starting lineup? Instead of same old Raul,Gago and co.
I want to see Saviola in action one last time before he leaves us, and see what we could hv done with such a talented player !
He is atleast 10 times a striker than Raul can ever hope to be!
Good luck to him next season! It would be yet another loss for us!
Raul! U are gonna burn in hell for all the back-stabbing u hv done at Real Madrid!
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
no it's 3-2
I added Galaxy after the Galacticos! Ha Ha Ha!
I hate the writers there!
Reply to Rireal:
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying they're not good or anything...on the contrary they're very good...but do you honestly think they are better then Jurade?
To Ravi:
As for bringing an ex-R.Madrid player...it might be a solution...but what is the point of taking a huge risk such as that when you already have a good coach?I mean Barca got lucky with Guardiola but I doesn't necessarily mean the same thing will happen with R.Madrid.Lastly if we get an ex-Real Madrid player I see Raul's chances of playing every game increasing not decreasing since he may be the coach's friend.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
actually u r right they r anti real madrid ...i hate that site..
Reply to trooper:
Match ended 3-3.
It only shows we did not deserve 6-2 beating; all Juande's fault!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
I think you should go for a walk
Reply to trooper:
If you speak Italian www.calciomercato.com is very good
Then there is www.tribalfootball.com (but that has many speculation and not much is real)
Lastly tere is also www.soccerway.com/news
Those are the ones I know about
Reply to Danniel:
If they follow Ravi's advice, and bring an ex-footballer, when he fails, he'll say he is inexperienced.
Reply to Danniel:
Guardian UK, SkySports, and Telegraph. Look them up.
Reply to Adambader:
I want Real to learn to play with attacking flair just like our city rivals!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Go cheer for them.
Reply to Adambader:
What telling me sites of UK newspapers and a TV network?
When I am not watching Real Madrid get thumped by x,y or z team, I enjoy playing games like Star Ocean: The Last Hope, The Last Remnant, Battlefield:Bad Company on my XBOX 360!
I thought u could do a little bit better than that!
And btw I am not a Noob at Googling!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Because you don't speak Spanish or do you? The Guardian, SkySports, and Telegraph have reliable and awesome journalists in Madrid.
My favorites are Sid Lowe and Guillem Balague. Check out my blog roll for links.
Reply to Adambader:
Thanx! But I won't!
A nice match to see right now- AC Milan vs Juventus, could hv been a CL quarter-final!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Then stop asking for soccer sites.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Doesn't anyone else think AC Milan's jersey colour is the best in club football?
Silly observation!! I know!
This blog is empty right now! So I'll check back later.
Sayonara!
please dude go get laid instead of playing ur games u have way to much built in aggression.
Reply to alex:
Who thou?
First time heard 4rm U! A shadowname for someone else?
Reply to alex:
This is a footballing blog dedicated to Real Madrid! Not fling.com!
Reply to alex:
That was not even the half of it! The real fire burns inside!
Atletico defeat Espanyol 3-2.
I saw the match!
Our current bunch of players can only DREAM of playing at such a pace! No onder why we suck!
Why did Real Madrid not sign Diego Forlan?
He scores goals for fun has got a lot of pace!
Can we sign him this season?
He is second behind Eto'o by only one goal for the Pichichi!
Forlan can be one of the Galactico ingredients!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
ravi,no offense, but you need help
Reply to losblancos_dxb:
u are so right, only a superb Pepe and a superb S.Ramos are not enough for the backline. Although we'd got all hte best defenders in squad, we don't change the way we defend, especailly defending setpieces, we will still mess things up.
Reply to Danniel:
yeh yeh, lets keep all the trash as many as possible. lets using gago to be our 'key' playmaker, and lets get kill one more time in early round in chanpionleague. u are 100 percent correct too, we should keep all the crappy players to build a crappy 2nd level realmadrid team.
Reply to losblancos_dxb:
i gotta make sth clear that im not saying Gago is that bad. wut'd been tryin' to express is that "WE SHOULDN'T RELY HIM ON SUCH A IMPORTANT ROLE RIGHT NOW"!! I know he is young has potential to grow, but i think it's too early for him to play in a team like real madrid. I coulnd't get hte stats of xavi's passing rate in his first year, but according to my observation, Xavi had been performing much more consistent and reliable compared with gago(in xavi's first couple seasons with barca). some pple said WE HAVE TO BE PATIENT, come on mates, god knows we must to have patient with young players but we CAN'T AFFORD TO MESS AROUND WITH PUTTING SOME YOUNG PLAYERS WHO ARE NOT MATURE ENOUGH IN THE BIG STAGE. in my personal opinion, i think gago should be loaned out and play at some teams where he can get more minutes, but i don't think real madrid is a place for hs TEST. i appreciate ur football vision and im not talking about u. but i just wanna point out that there are so many stubborn real madrid fans opposing to sign some of the best players, i just don't understand this. Their vision are just too narrow. Up to now, they still look our squad as superb. This is so naive. I will be so happy to see Gago playing with the white jersey once he's already become a world class player but definitely not right now!! the reason i said we should loan him out is that i don't wanna ruin his career cuz i think he definitely deserves to be sitting on the bench.
I don't know if we could have won the liga title with Ruud, but i believe we could have had a better squad if he was there. BUt for winning the title..... i doubt. Cuz we must admit that Barcelona has been performing way better than we do this season. and it's undoubted by their records.
Reply to MadridPrince:
so weren't u mean that u should keep rely him as our KEY player in the midfield UNTIL he reaches his peak?? and honestly, a glimpse of brilliance is not enough to carry a team like Real Madrid,(if we don't want to be called a 2nd tier team anymore). I don't oppose to him to stay but definitely not as a starter. I would also suggest to loan him out that he can have more minute to REACH HIS PEAK. also, sth i'd wanna correct u. He is okay as a defensive midfielder, but he is definitely NOT a creative one!! i'd prefer RUben De la Red to Gago if the former is fitted to play. and god knows Guti is an extremely inconsistent player. he can be the most shinning star in one match but competely disappear in the next match. and his peak has already been over. So compare a young gago to an old guti sounds not fair. and have u ever counted how many unecessary turnover that gago makes per match?? have u ever look at the statistic that how constant he loses possession?? and for me, it's simple!! IF WE WANT TO REFORM THE TEAM AND ESTBALISH A CHAMPIONS WINNING TEAM. WE CAN'T KEEP IN BOOM IN THE MIDFIELD. he is not in the top level yet. IT's Ok for young players to make mistakes as they can learn from the mistakes, but i don't think it's a clever way to let them making mistakes and learning in big stages. We can't afford to slip again. We'd been already in the bottom. We'd been knocked out 5 times in CL in the first KO round. That's enough. he deserves to have a place that can afford his mistake and let him gain experience BUt i don't think real madrid is this place for him.
As wut u said about Robben, it doesn't quite make sense to me since u siad u believe we should ONLy have one foreign palyer in the wing.....nth offensive but it sounds ridicuous to me. For me, it really doesn't matter where one is from if one is the a great player. can u answer me why we could only pick one from RIbery and Robben?? why can't we just get both of them??? i don't get this.
Reply to Danniel:
have you ever noticed that under juande ramos,most of madrid's players have lost their form.sergio ramos,gago,sneijder and even pepe have been comitting mistakes after another despite an okay start to the season.there has got to be something wrong with juande's system !
hi guys!!jorge valdano gaved an interview in which he criticised juande ramos,drenthe,vdv and gago....the article is on goal.com!!!
i guess things r startin to get 
really hot
Reply to flynn:
I've seen Ramos pretty average...but certainly not bad...and the same thing goes for Pepe..if you forget last game...he has been excellent.You have to keep in mind the players who have played brilliantly under Jurade...Robben,MARCELO and Lass are the most noticible.
Now I'm not saying he's great or anything....I've critisized him many times...but I think he's the best there is from the ones available.
Tommorow there will be an official announcemnent that will tell us when the Press Conference of Florentino Perez arrival will take place and what time it will be on May 14th Thursday.. it will be an interesting week I cant wait till Thursday just to see who all Perez says he will sign in the summer and his plans for the coach
Florentino Perez will make public his intention to stand in the Real Madrid elections on Thursday," his office said in a statement. The announcement would be made at 0930 GMT at a news conference at the Hotel Ritz in Madrid, it added.
I was just thinking that if Wenger becomes our coach what will happen with Lass Diarra because he has come and out and criticised him before lets hope he don't drop Lass because he is an awesome player.. I dont want Wenger to become coach I rather have someone else
Reply to trooper:
ahh shit... the article is on spanish.
have to wait for someone to translate it to english... 
I wanted to reed what Valdano had to say about Ramos, Drenthe, VDV and Gago..
Reply to Rireal:
Jorge Valdano has given some insight into how he may see things if he takes a commanding role at Real Madrid in the summer, hinting at which players will go.
The Argentinean was co-commentating on los Merengues' defeat at Valencia on Saturday, running through different areas of concern as the team slumped to their second successive defeat.
Coach Juande Ramos was the first to be singled out. Valdano was not impressed that he had decided to criticise the squad in the build-up to the game in Mestalla.
"There is a danger that the team will become disheartened. Valencia were superior in their attitude," he said on La Sexta.
"His statements last week, saying things against the team, did not help the players go out and play with the pride that they needed to.
"People watching on television can say things like that, but not the coach of Madrid. He is required to ask for more from the players."
On Royston Drenthe, the former Madrid coach, who would likely become the general manager at the Bernabeu if Florentino Perez wins the election, gave his damning verdict.
"He is a mystery without a solution. He arrived at Madrid as a very young player and he has yet to adapt to the football or the culture," he continued.
Rafael van der Vaart may not be playing for los Merengues next term if Valdano has his way as he feels that the Dutchman is no better than many other players at the club.
"He has a lot of class, but no more than Guti. The nickname Van der Crack? Well, at least this season with Madrid he not been. There are plenty of attacking midfielders, especially at Real Madrid," he added.
Fernando Gago's name has also been mentioned as being part of the summer clear-out and Valdano has not been impressed with his compatriot.
"For each ball he loses he has to run 200 metres. He does not play well alongside Javi Garcia. He is too imprecise in what he does because he is too far from the centre circle," he explained.
Fabio Cannavaro's public desire to leave and subsequent talks with other clubs should have meant that he was dropped earlier, according to Valdano, who hinted that the board would step in under his regime to deal with team affairs if this happened.
"He has to honour the contract that he has with Real Madrid. A player that is given a place in the team has to respond. If not, the coach must be told not to play him," he said.
Reply to ravi:
who knows why isn't he giving a chance to Saviola???? and who knows why he pick's Raul before Huntelar???? But thats Ramos for you, and that's the part of the reason why we perform badly in most of the games...
Reply to trooper:
that was quick...
well done mate..!!!
thanks a lot..
Reply to trooper:
hehehe...
well he said some good things, mostly everything
he said was right but i think that he was a bit gentle to our coach Ramos. He comented only his lately comment's towards the team but he failed to criticize his choice of formation and first team players. I guess he will leave it for the summer when he becomes the next sporting director and when a decision has to be make if they will extend his contract.
Reply to Rireal:
Saviola isn't being given a chance due to previous comments that were said earlier this season.Whilst he plays Raul because he's a leader and an inspiration to the whole team...that's probably the reasons...now I'm not saying he's right...by far not
Reply to trooper:
His comments may be a little harsh, but they are true.. well, most of them.. VDV is on the same level as Guti is, but, VDV could be a whole lot better.. Juande has to see this, and play him.. DROP GAGO..!! please..! we want to win our 3 remaining matches in style.. i rather a 5-3 win than a 2-0 win.. But then again, if raul and gago, and even heinze is played, and they are out of form, could we end up losing the match.. however, I will still keep the faith, MADRID 4EVER..!
Reply to Madridista4:
Wenger ... as coach? Don't worry, it'll never never happen. He hates us anyway. So no danger of that happening.
I think Wenger is a magnificent coach, but maybe not right for Real Madrid. Wenger seems to be too concerned with bringing in young players, and building for a better tomorrow.
Real Madrid is a club that demands instant success, and sometimes that is not enough. You may argue that that is wrong. But that is what the supporters demand, like it or not. Maybe Wenger's approach would change at a bigger club like Real Madrid, but who knows?
Secondly, Wenger likes to be in control of a club's sporting development and involved in the financial decision making. At Real Madrid he would have neither of those two things. The president runs things, especially if his first name is Florentino. The coach simply prepares the players for the matches. He has no say in who comes in or goes out.
One thing is clear to me. Real Madrid needs someone who knows how to motivate players, who is tactically sharp, and above all, who can deal with ego centric football stars.
That man is not Juande, with all due respects.Van Gaal has already signed for Bayern Munich next season, Roberto Mancini is my personal favourite - but nobody else's... so ... that leaves just ... Jose Mourinho, Felipe Scolari, Claudio Ranieri, and maybe Spalletti from Roma. Someday, I would like to see Hugo Sanchez as manager, but not just yet.
What we should avoid is the sentimentalism that lead us to hire Camacho or flirt with the idea of Michel taking over.
Reply to Danniel:
raul inspiration for the team he did not do a good job against liverpool , Valencia, Barcelona...real madrid need to start a new era..all the other big club in the world of football did it ...RAUL IS NOT GOING TO SAVE US.......
agree! it was bad selection and no playmaker either.
the special one sure has the cojones to bench el siete but i dont think florentino will go for him because of the style of footy he favors
i'd go for laudrop if i were the management not only does he plays tikki takka but he is also a madridista .....sorta
IS there any way we could vicente del bosque back!!!! lol just wishful thinking
im new on this blog BTW was looking for a place to let my frustration out with my fellow madridistas and i ended up here hope you gents wont mind me posting with you
HALA MADRID
I would go for Mourinho. He got personality which i think suite to the Madritas. If we want to start with the Galaticos era, then i personally think Mourinho is the man. We need this type of manager to balance the media. Well it is my view but not sure if everything we wrote in these blog will affect the shitty management decision we have now.
REPORT: Alvaro Negredo of Almeria, Ezequiel Garay of Racing Santander and Esteban Granero of Getafe are all expected to be an integral part of Valdano's plans and you can call their deals all but complete. Garay was already signed for 9m last season but was loaned out to Racing. Negredo and Granero will be re-signed for a total of 10m. 19m for three soon-to-be World-Class players...I find that a wonderful bargain.
In another article, AS reports that Valdano will only assure 11 people their stay while 4 players he is uncertain about and the rest he is looking to sell. Assured playerS: Higuain, Raul, Casillas, Pepe, Ramos, Lass, Metzelder, Torres, Parejo, Sneijder and Marcelo. He is uncertain about Gago, Codina, Guti and Huntelaar. I love the list aside from the selling of two players Robben and RVN. It's like taking a step down. Perez wants to sell IMO the best winger and the world and the best 'striker' in the game. (There are better forwards though, there's a differnce, look it up) Aside from the two of them, you could also argue a case for VDV and Cannavaro. I don't think though that Valdano will sell Robben and RVN because of the rage of the fans if their trasnfers go through. Otherwise, tbh, the list is very nice. Hala Madrid!
mourinho and madrid just doesnt seem right.plus, if you demand improvement in cl,he is certainly not the right man.he might have won it once but his track record in the competition is horrible.and his "success" story in italy proved that he's a one trick manager.he's no better than juande except the attitude of course.
zidane will only be either an adviser or plays some role in the academy.
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
van der vaart deserves to stay.he is a match-winner ! madrid needs that kind of players.
Metzelder is one of the best defenders in the world and he had pretty decent performance in the recent few games. But the EL classico still reflects that he lacks of speed. in my opinion, he suits Bundisliga rather than La Liga and he still worthes a considerable amount. BUt if he stays, i don't think he can be more than a bench player.
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
On Friday, Juande Ramos again said this squad is a step behind the greater teams in Europe.
Juande? What did u think RM brought u in for?
If u cannot motivate ur players for the crunch games, then I am sorry there is no hope 4 U !
Juande this is not Tottenham, respect Real Madrid CF!
As for the transfers, I am amazed how come the future of Huntelaar is uncertain?
Poor guy left Ajax to join us in January and now u are planning to show him the door?
Those who don't want Juande gone, I wonder what ur views on the Hunter are!
And for whom we should sell Hunter? RVN?
I know RVN is Van Goal and is one of all-time best strikers, no doubt about that! But Hunter is the successor of Ruud Van, both for Holland and Real Madrid. I think Ruud should hang up his boots or go somewhere else to leave a place for his compatriot!
I assure all of u, if we start Hunter in every game next season, he will be our top scorer for sure!
And for those of u who don't agree that RVN is old and needs to go!
Hey ppl atleast don't be hypocrits! You wouldn't have "old" Ibrahimovic for Higuain, yet u are ready to axe Hunter for RVN?
That's not fair dudes!
And btw he is also my favourite RM player!
If we let Hunter go, and if he decides to join either of the big 4 in EPL (especially MAN U) or any of the rest of the top Spanish sides, then I will personally assassinate those responsible for it; even if it is Florentino!
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Yes, i don't think he should be a starter either and loaning him out would be the best thing to do. I only think we should have patience with him because i saw john terry, lampard and joe cole do the same silly mistakes just like gago does, but when jose mourinho came these three were seen as the best in the world.
we can have both robben and ribery but we can't have robben, ribery, huntelaar and higuain, with lass not looking likely to budge from defensive midfield and looking very likely of having 3 foreigners in defence we will have 2 or at most 3 spanish players in our starting XI. they may have quality but they don't understand the importance of matches such as Madrid v Barca, i've seen players like pavon and mejia play in these mathces and they play with more passion and better than some of our foreign defenders have.
Robben is also a very frustrating player. I have seen him from his chelsea days and he hasn't changed one bit. he always gets injured, he plays very greedily, he doesn't help out in defensive duties (why mourinho sold him) and he starts matches playing better than messi or c.ronaldo but then he starts diving and when he doesn't get the free kicks for his dives, his performance plummets. Back in his chelsea days when he came off from the bench he was unstoppable but when he started matches he wasn't the same robben. To sum him up he has 30minutes of brilliance and 60 minutes of frustrating play.
I would buy ribery and mata and have them as our starters.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
About next season's squad again: I think we should cut down our Dutch contingent! Real Madrid CF is not Holland lol! I think some of the Dutch players do not know what it means to wear the white of Real Madrid, and they don't seem to understand the Spanish fans too. (VDV ,Drenthe come to mind)
Also I am not sure about Sneijder, that player has only himself to blame for his uncertainty at the club after a fantastic debut season!
The players who should leave-VDV,Van Goal,Sneijder(if he doesn't buckle up and shed a few kilos),Drenthe (loan him to some club with a buy-back clause,he needs to mature a bit and grow up).
And only two Dutch players I would have in my team - Robben and Huntelaar. Robben has become a true White now. I can feel it by his statements on realmadrid.com . And imagine the combo of Ronaldo and Robben if it was to become a reality!
That would be like the ultimate wing in all of football!
Did I leave any dutch player? Plz let me know!
I think Real Madrid is a Spanish club and should have more Spanish players- Hey Florentino- I will give U the moon if U can land Torres from Liverpool, just like u snatched Figo from Barca! Villa I don't like, 'cause he has snubbed us so many times. (Torre is not a cow either.)
And hey ppl check out another La Roja- Fernando Llorente for Athletic Bilbao against Barcelona in the Copa del Ray final. I think he will put a dagger through the Barca fans hearts.
Although I want him to play for Real Madrid one day, he will never come as he is from Basque country! What is the history b/w Madrid and the Basque territories? Do they want independence?
Then why do they play for Spain national side along with the Catalans? And is Catalunya and Basque different? It's all very confusing!
Can any Spaniard here tell me more about this matter?
It's quite interesting if U are not from Spain.
Due the horrific run of form of Real Madrid and our coach's incredible decision-making, I am already predicting a 3-1 or 4-1 defeat to Villareal this weekend.
I know its a bit early, but I just had to say this!
Wonder what AngelofMadrid is seeing in his crystal ball!
Any more predictors here? What do u think will be the scoreline against Villareal this weekend? (Remember the gap b/w Real Madrid and Villareal is too great! )
Basques and Catalans see themselves as having a separate identity to the rest of Spain, but that does not stop them from playing for Real Madrid, after all, this is business.
Valdano's appraisal of the current squad is interesting. Raul has his place assured, but Huntelaar does not. What does that tell you? He wants to bring in Negredo, Granero etc, but to actually have a role to play? Or to sit on the bench? Does anyone know if Garay is actually any good?
Metzelder has surely earned a place in the team. What would be the point of selling someone who has perfomred well, and getting only peanuts for him?
Valdano is right to say that we need a clear out. But does he know which ones?
About Juande Ramos, He is an awesome coach. Put aside the losses to Barca, Liverpool and Valencia and he has done an amazing job. He got one out of the three players he wanted, lassana diarra, and look how well that turned out. if he had got antonio valencia and pavlyuchenko we would have been much more successful, but he is playing with players he doesn't want.
However, Juande only knows one way to play, 4-4-2 with two holding midfielders and four pacy players on the wings and this style can win us La Liga, the Uefa Cup, the Spanish cup, but NOT the champions league. All the top clubs have adapted to a 5 man midfield with one or two playmakers. Milan, Liverpool, Chelsea, Barca, Arsenal and United all use a 5 man midifeld (I see the 4-3-3 as 5 man mdifield too due to how far back the two wing forwards drop). all these teams have one or two playmakers in them and Juande does not know how to play with a playmaker
I like Blanc as a manager better, as he is playing good football, bringing youngsters through, can play with a playmaker and his team is joint top of Ligue 1, 7 points ahead of Lyon. If not Blanc, Juande should be given a chance to prove himself with his choice of signings. What we need is a manager who is going to be there for 3 seasons and allow the manager complete control of transfers. If Mijatovic and calderon wern't so stupid and instead listened to Schuster we would have still had robinho and would have had villa in the team and could have been on our way to winning the champions league or the League atleast
Reply to Adambader:
Today on Goal.com they have an article describing Atletico Madrid as the second most exciting club in football, after cocky Barca!
Looks like I am not alone after all who admires their attacking flair!
And somebody plz tell me why nobody wants Forlan to come to Madrid? I would swap Robben for that guy!
No, I mean it!
Reply to Caracoleo:
Thanx for ur insight mate! Appreciae it very much!
But I stiil can't see any of their players coming to Madrid.
To tell u the truth, I am sometimes scared when our team visits those regions! It's like they want our players' blood and their heads!
Has Madrid done such injustice to them to deserve that kind of hatred?
Hey folks where has all the Karim Benzema talk vanished? What about his- "Real Madrid is my club!" statements. Where have the rumour mills gone?
And I am sure if Zidane gets a role at RM this year, he will be able to convince both Benzema and Ribery to come to Madrid! Won't he?
Or am I little overcofident of Zizou's influence on those players?
Hey Adam start a new post dude! This post is dead.
WHO IS PEREZ'S FLU VICTIM 2?
Is it as deadly as I hear it is?
I heard it killed 1000 Calderon's,Mijatovic's and Ramos'es !
But isn't that a good thing?
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
And if it kills one Raul Gonzalez I will thank God for that( even though I am an atheist
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Reply to realmadrid_cf:
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Reply to MadridPrince:
U are urself giving the reasons why Juande's contract should not be extended!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Caracoleo u didn't follow up ur reply!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Yes. It is my belief that the 4-4-2 no longer works in modern day football. I just want to say that he is an amazing coach but not real madrid standard. Maybe i am wrong and with the right signings juande may make real the best in the world with his 4-4-2. BUT, we should only get rid of Juande if we can get a coach who wins trophies and plays good football. Players like Kaka and Villa have expressed their desires to go to arsenal not because arsenal are winning trophies but because of their style of football. Good Football attracts the best players, the best players win the team trophies. Hence why i mentioned blanc
Can anyone explain why they don't want RVN. He is amazing, he won as La Liga for 2 years, was fantastic. He scores in the big games. What is wrong with him? And if we want to win the treble next year then we need a big squad to compete. Strikeforce should be: RVN, Hunter, Higuain, Villa/Negredo
Reply to MadridPrince:
Totally agree, well said.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
We'll beat Villareal, it's moral logic. We're going to come out to play for pride now. It'll be something like 3-1 or 2-1 to Real, expect Robben to torment Capdevila again. Though, despite the win, Barcelona will crush Mallorca and take the league.
Reply to Caracoleo:
Garay's good enough to have single-handedly drawn a game with Barcelona for Racing...literally
He even scoed their only goal. Honestly though, he's much better suited to Real Madrid than Cannavaro or Metzelder ever were. He's like a clone of Pepe, except he's more calm and is a mean set-piece taker. There's more to the keeping of Raul, it also states he WILL NOT play an important role in the team and will just be there as an icon. I would assure Huntelaar, Robben and RVN too. And yes, Negredo would be used in rotation. Perez and Valdano don't really think strikers are the problem, they understand there are weaknesses on the wing and on Gago's position. Hopefully they realise the importance of axing Heinze. Cannavaro will be replaced by Garay, a move I believe will be much better than Pepe's transfer.
Reply to A10:
RVN is real madrid's best striker and then it is Higuain. these two need to stay. RVN cannot play the full season but we need him for important games.
Personally i would rather get rid of Hunter, i would much rather have benzema in the team who has more to his game than huntelaar and has more potential. And the fact that he wants to play for real madrid should mean something, as well as the fact that if real have benzema then they are much more likely to attract ribery.
Hunter is a magnificent goal scorer and it would be sad to see him leave but i prefer benzema. All we as fans can do is wait and see what happens
Reply to MadridPrince:
I agree, Benzema is more versatile, and Hunter is really static. Howabout, buying Santacroce as center back, we need 3 good CBs to compete, maybe metzelder is alrite but Santacroce from Napoli will be a good addition. To replace Gago we need to get Xabi Alonso.
Next year's team:
Iker
Ramos, Pepe, Garay/Santacroce, Lahm/ Taiyo
Robben, Xabi Alonso, Diarra, Ribery
Higuain/Villa, Hunter/RVN
Reply to flynn:
i agree, he is better than sneijder
Reply to A10:
i would much rather benzema to hunterlaar, he is more all round.. hunterlaar is a box player, and that is not something madrid could afford to have at the moment..
i agree that juande is a good coach, but when it came to playing the best teams, he failed.. and i hope he realizes, that since his usual line-up has been failing, then change it!! try something like a 4-1-2-1-2, or try the 4-3-3.. the 4-4-2 isn't working out anymore.. lass should be the holding midfielder, because he alone is better than gago and javi garcia in the middle.. robben and higuain on the wings, VDV just behind the strikers, and hunterlaar and raul up front.. lets be realistic, juande isn't going to drop raul anytime soon
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
I hope u are right!
or I am going to come out with another round of Juande,Raul,Gago,Heinze bashing!
Reply to A10:
U can only play max. 3 strikers in a game. If one of them doesn't get enough playing time, they'll pack their bags and look for another club. Real Madrid is not the only club around!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Nobody answered my question on Diego Forlan!
Come on guys can we have a discussion about this guy? See more Atleti match recordings if U don't know how letal a player and a match-winner he is!
forlan is a capable striker, however, he plays for atletico..highly unlikely singing therefor..in addition he is not young, and not a star player like david villa..he scores a ton of goals, but I'm not bought to him..I think there are plenty of better strikers available..I think of younger players with tons of potential like benzema or prooven players like adebayor, villa and even ibrahimovic( although I don't really like him) are all better than forlan..after all I don't think anybody whos in charge thinks aboubt forlan although he's a very good striker..
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
I would prefer Villa or Benzema to Forland any day. For two reasons a) Forlan was pretty bad at Man Utd and Villareal and b) I hate Uruguayans. Villa is Spanish and is the best forward in the world along with Torres so i'd much rather have him.
Reply to madridtrini4:
VDV is technically better than sneijder but sneijder is a better player. VDV is like Huntelaar and doesn't run around and get stuck in like sneijder does. VDV hasn't played better than sneijder this season and it is only the hattrick which defines his season. i think that the board may look to sell him but i would suggest loaning him out to another spanish team. this way madrid can get to see how good VDV really is and if they still don't want him i can guarantee that his value will be higher then than what it would be now
Sneijder hsan't been that good for us this season but i think that is down to two things: The Euro 2008 effect and his injury(ies). Thankyou Diaby
sneijder had a bad season because his wife left him after he betrayed her.. his two kids are in holland with his wife, so I think it's quite clear why sneijder played a bad season..
Reply to MadridPrince:
The fact that Sneijder was the best player of the Euros says a lot. Diaby is an asshole, you have to be really, really pathetic to make such tackles in friendly games.
Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:
Reply to madridtrini4:
He has only been here for six months.
At least give him a season like Higuain.
Selling Hunter after half a season would be telling the world that he is not good enough, which is completely false.
It will also make him despise RM, and who knows if he joins another big European club, maybe his aim would be to punish Real Madrid,with goals!
I am teling u if the same Hunter had landed at ManU,Liverpool or Chelsea and had been a sensation for them, all of u same ppl would have been dying right now to get him to Madrid!
This is what I don't like abt RM fans!
Hey guys! Huntelar was sought after by many big clubs but he chose Real Madrid!
Plz don't make him look like a fool now. And may be his handling at the club would serve as a deterrent for future great strikers who we may like to sign.
In the end we would further tarnish our image!
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
How can u hate such a small country as Uruguay?
I personally hate Paraguay, what was the name of that Paraguyan striker who was making the hadlines a few yrs ago? I can't remember his name!
Where he is now?
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
I just hope that we sign benzema regardless of what happens with the hunter. i see your point though about hunter
Here is some injury news.. Metzelder got injured at practice today and is out for 2 weeks.. Gago and Robben still have niggles from last game and have still continued to work out in the gym.. Guti trained alone.. and Sneijder,and Saviola trained with the team today which means they could take part in the game this weekend which is good news.. However Gago, and Marcelo are both suspended for the game with 5 yellows
Reply to MadridPrince:
Just one thing about Benzema- is he mature enough to play for Real Madrid? Will he be able to handle the pressure?
Don't u think he is still very young? He looks like a boy! (No offense)
Reply to MadridPrince:
That is no excuse for poor form on the field! He is a pro dude, and should act like one!
Personally I think his poor form is attributed to the injury, weight gain and perhaps his unhappiness about all the hype created about Ronaldo coming to Madrid, last summer. I for some reason think he was jealous of the attention Ronaldo got! But that's my opinion, I know many of u will want to gun me down on that immediately.
Cristiano Ronaldo Can Join Real Madrid For €80M - Report
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Check out Raul's agent's comments:
"Raul is someone who doesn't speak out. During the Galactico madness he was pushed aside, but now as captain he has recovered his authority as a player and a leader inside the dressing room."
Doesn't that tell us that Raul is indeed an Ego maniac and a xenophobic?
Any one willing to comment on VFS Wolfsberg striker Edin Ziko( 4give me if his name is spelled incorrectly.)
How do u rate him?
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
i wasn't showing any disrespect to hunterlaar, if i was, lo siento.. its just that benzema does alot more running, dribbling, and defending.. hunterlaar just waits for the ball to be delivered.. when there is no service, it will look as though he had a poor game.. and the reason higuain got a whole season, was because is was 19 at the time.. don't get me wrong, hunterlaar is a superb player, but not what madrid needs at the moment.. i also would not want him to stay, if all he is going to do is be a benchwarmer, that will kill his career..
sneijder and VDV may be similar types of players, but there are also alot of differences between them also.. for both of them to compliment each other, they would have to both play behind a lone striker.. the only match they played together in was against juve, in turin.. they were both utilized poorly, because they were played in a 4-3-3, as two central midfielders, with gago, so that was a diaster waiting to happen..
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
do you mean roque santa cruz? that's the only paraguayan that comes to mind..
oh and it wouldn't make much sense forlan coming to madrid, because he is not what the fans want, he will just get benched for raul.. the other reason is, he won't get as much shirt sales as a cristiano, or ribery, or villa would get..
I think benzema is a super choice, he's by far the best player of lyon, so I think he can handle pressure..some people might disagree on that though..for me he's the French ronaldo( Brasil)..
hunter can score from anywhere, he's a strong header, can shoot wtih both feet, scores from free-kicks..but he's only good in a good team, because he is not a kaka who takes the ball in midfield and dribbles 45 metres..
the big question is, who the coach will be..perhapy we play 433 with mourinho, or 4321 with ancelotti--who knows--but I don't think the system you play decides over success..capello is 442, barca is 433 and manu doesn't really have an offensive system, but defend excellent and up front players can switch positions..ronaldo is a front striker, a left, a right winger. the same goes for rooney..
what I want to say is, a team needs a philosophy the coach gives to the team..
LINK
watch this player...!
very nice control of the ball and very nice skills..
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
it's no excuse, it's an explanation..he's a profesional and he should play well, but he failed this season..we agree 100%
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
its edin dzeko...
but i think that we already have that cind of player in Higuain and Huntelar, and we could have third similar if Negredo comes to Real.
Reply to madridtrini4:
Yeah I myself thought it was Cruz. But was not sure, as he is now playing in the EPL.
Was he in La Liga earlier?
Do u seriously think Real Madrid sign players who r more likely to sell shirts? That would not explain many of our signings.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
it would be a great signing for Real mate but why spending 80m for one player when you can spend less for two class players like Villa and Silva. On that point i agree with Cassilas when he stated to buy more spanish players and combine them to our youth team.
I would ad to them Alonso and Ribery, and it look's as do Zidane will succeed in encouraging him to come to Real.
Reply to Rireal:
Wouldn't a Ronaldo or Messi be able to do that? ( Sorry, no offence!)
yes they could but you would have to pay them 80m or more... and why spending that amount of money, that's the point i am trying to say...
This is a a player with enormous potential and a smaller signing fee.
Reply to Rireal:
Hey ppl! I am still not convinced about Negredo!
'cause he is not a Galactico player.
Can anyone prove he has evolved into a WORLD-CLASS forward capable of playing for Real Madrid?
Thanks!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
you also have Benzema with huge potential but Lyon's asking price for him is 50m or higher as i remember..?? that's a lot of money...
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
and Villa is not onla one of the best forwards but is also accessible at the moment if the right price is offered to Valencia. Hope we take advantage to that this summer. I think the most of us would like to see him upfront with Higuain or RVN or Hunter...
ITS OFFICIAL FLORENTINO PEREZ news conference is on Thursday im very anxious to see what he has to say about his signings and coaches etc..
Reply to Rireal:
Don't U think that's exactly why Real Madrid are always in the headlines? That's our trademark.
We always spend hefty sums on multi-million transfers. To tell u the truth, I kinda like when Real Madrid's mega-money transfers gather all the headlines on TV!
Also, with the mega summer clear out,we are gonna have plenty of cash on our hands.Don't u worry about the cash problem. Real always got plenty of that!
And I don't think we are gonna turn into a Valencia CF either!
About Villa: as much as I would like him to play for Real Madrid, he comes across as an ANTI-MADRID person. Doesn't anyone else think so?
And Ronaldo has already tasted CL success! He is the one player who can bring us the CL single-handedly! Just watch his perormances for MAN U in CL this season. Against Porto his spectacular strike was all the difference b/w the 2 teams.
We need a game-changer like him!
Reply to Rireal:
To Casillas and all of those who would like to see more Spanish faces in Real Madrid( me included): Tell me who out of the following is willing to come to the Bernabeu-
Fernando Torres, Fabregas, Xabi Alonso, Iniesta, Czorla,David Villa (personlly he would never like to be at Madrid), Silva, (else I can't remember!)
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
cruz never played in spain, he played for bayern munchen though.. he is a good striker, but not world class.. we have saviola who is better than him..
btw, madrid buys players to sell jerseys also.. florentino perez is an example of a president who does that.. i hope he wins, and takes madrid back to the top..!
although the asking price for benzema is 50mil, that doesn't matter.. money is not an issue for perez.. so we could stop thinking in terms of how much a player would cost, but more in terms of what players will take madrid to glory.. Villa and benzema tops my list for strikers.. ribery and ronaldo for wingers.. in the centre, i just want xabi alonso.. hopefully our new coach will have a solid defense, and with xabi or lass holding down the middle, we can finally start to play beautiful football once again!
ronaldo/ribery-robben/ribery-VDV/kaka-higuain-villa/benzema..
Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:
If I am not blind, I don't see Higuain capable of dribbling either. Or am I really blind?
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
that was the trademark until now but it's also great to take the advantage if we can and spend less or the same amount money but bring more class players to the team then just one...
Why do you think that he is anti madrid? do you know that he was very close to signing for us last summer, but it was off course the board that fucked up as usual. according to his agent it was a difference between 5m euros more that Valencia asked from our board but they thought that he isn't worth it..!!!! BRAVO MIJATOVIC, GREAT YOB...
I saw that match against Porto where Ronaldo got the yob done by himself, but did you see the Euros where Villa was better then Ronaldo. Torres and Villa played with every diffence they played against, he is also a player that can get things done by himself. He showed that in the euros where he played in a national team which is way better then Valencia's team.
so if you put him in a better team again like Real then he can do more damage then now and maybe be a contender for the best player of the year with his performances in a league and CL..!
and with Real he can have great performance every game in every competition..
What do you think?
Reply to madridtrini4:
I want to ask you about 2 German players- Schweinsteiger and Podolsky.
Why these guys only play good for their country and are not able to do as well in club competitions?
Actually I wanted Schweiny if we don't get Ronaldo or Ribery.
And Podolsky was once a lethal forward, but has now faded away into obscurity!
Reply to Rireal:
Reply to Rireal:
btw Yeah I also saw Euro 2008 and I liked Spanish side very much! But it was kinda weird watching Casillas and the barca players playing together-Puyol,Xavi,Iniesta and others.
Sorry mate if I hurt ur feelings by bringing up Italy! It wasn't my intention.
But I have my loyalties divided: I like Italy too . Actually it has been my favourite national team since childhood, and I always hated Brasil, 'cause they kicked Italy's ass!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
higuain actually dribbles very good.. you should watch every match, robben, marcelo, ramos and him are always dribbles, and does a great job, only for all their hard work to be undone when they pass the ball to raul.. don't get me wrong, raul was the reason i started loving madrid back in 1998, but, he is barely a shadow of his former self
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
same here..
Reply to Madridista4:
Reply to madridtrini4:
About Raul I don't care abt him! He is a liability for us. Higuain I was just saying he does not go 45 m with the ball like Benzema was claimed to do!
Only real dribbler in our current team is Robben!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
no, why?
I also bet on their win in world cup but i lost because i placed in also that Luca Toni would be the best goalscorer in world cup 2006. He cost me the money... 
i like Italy also, btw i was in minority in the world cup 2006 who believed that they can win the world cup.
they don't play the most attractive football but they play it with efficiency. They are great tactician's and they now how to use opponent's weakness. Something we lacked this season..
Reply to Rireal:
Are u not Spanish?
no... i'm croatian citizen. You?
wassup ladies and gents
so florentino will tell us what his plans are thursday huh i really cant wait to hear what he has to say
if you ask me our priority should be the defense and midfield 2 world class CBs ( cant think of any that are available at the moment ) 2 or 3 "cracks" in midfield ( ribery , alonso , kaka ) and 1 striker ( villa )
Reply to Rireal:
I am from India.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
When you're right you're right...I completely agree
Huntelaar has extreme potential and I also think it would be wise to sell RVN preferably to Man City...who will probably offer a huge sum. I Also like very very much the players listed to be kept and to be sold (except for Robben) however if we use Robben's cash to buy Ronaldo and Ribery BOTH for example...that won't be bad either 
(and maybe a substitute goaler)
Should we get Garay back we'd have our defence already complete...(except for the left back position) cause we'd have Metz,Pepe,Ramos,Henze and Garay who can all play in the centre.(except for Heinze who can't play well anywhere....hope he gets sold to Liverpool)
Our Attack would be good too since we'd have Negredo,Raul,Higuain and hopefully Huntelaar
So therfore we'd only need to sort out our midfiled and left back positions
Reply to Rireal:
wow, we have alot of different nationalities on this blog..!
Reply to madridtrini4:
That is because Real Madrid is truly an International club!
Reply to AndresMadrid:
that would probably be complete and well balanced team.
Rireal thanx i think with those players we'll be all set first we have to get rid of the dead weights though starting by heinze i would personally carry him on my back to argentina if i have to
Reply to Danniel:
Thanx 4 agreeing with me!
I was just upset 'cause my fellow college-mates are MAN U fans and now a days they are always making fun of me for being a RM fan!
Our CL form is a disgrace!
My friends laugh at the way we play!
Reply to Danniel:
what about Cissokho from Porto as a left back solution..? he showed this year that he is a good player, especially in CL against Man utd...
Reply to Rireal:
Man what position do Zhirkov and Bruno Alves play?
Reply to Rireal:
yea cissokho will definitly help our cause but be ready to dish out 40 mil or so for him porto have the tendency to rip people off for their players , they never let them go cheap
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
bruno alves is a center back a good one at that , the other guy can play anywhere in defense on the left side that is
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
our time is coming again because the better board will probably get elected this time. I am optimistic about our future, we just have to be patient, things will get sorted out pretty soon amd we will be again where we deserve to be... on top...
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
When you're right I agree with you...cause unlike most people I don't think somebody's completely bad or completely good (like Raul,Gago etc...) they have good sides aswell
) 3/4 of the country supports Mun U or Juve (the two teams I hate most)....and beleive me...I'm not exegerating.So you can imagine how happy I was when we lost against Barca 6-2...they're still mentioning it infact 
But I can't find any single team who has to be prouder of what thy've accomplished then R.Madrid so no I don't think it's a disgrace.
I uderstand what you mean about fans no probs....cause here in Malta(another country to add to the list
Reply to Rireal:
I don't know...to tell you the truth I never heard of him so I can't judge...but if I'd had to buy a left back I'd go for one of these...(listed in order of preference)
Chiellini,Lahm,Evra,Zhirkov and if there aren't any available maybe Capdevilla
Reply to Rireal:
Yeah I hope things work out better for us next season.
speaking of left backs , what do you guys think of maxwell from inter ? also whatever happened to chema anton from the castilla ?
Reply to AndresMadrid:
I think he is still playing for Castilla along with Palanca, Bueno etc.
o i see , for a minute i thought juande ramos was gonna give him a shot at left back this season he even had him on the bench for the first clasico only to send him back to the castilla later , juande should try him out in our remaining games since we have nothing to lose
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
IF we can win the CL final at the Bernabeu next year,that would be salvation for all of us Real Madrid fans and would be a day to remember 4 a long time!
Reply to AndresMadrid:
Juande has lost all credibility. I don't think he ever cared 4 our youth players, all he was trying to do till now was save his own ass, but even in that he could not succeed.
I doubt he will play them in the remaining games, it's just not in his DNA.
Reply to AndresMadrid:
i think maxwell or santon would be great.. anton is still with castilla
papers all around the world say ronaldo now is a done deal..I don't know if I can believe it..what do you say?
by the way, dzeko has scored another goal..
Reply to AndresMadrid:
Maxwell has apparently had a very good season. People say he is top class. Ex-Ajax of course.
The other full back who has had rave reviews is Zhirkov, from Zenit Petersburg.
Any info anyone?
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Yes those fans in the north want our heads on a pike! The worst place is Osasuna. Real Madrid has never done anything to earn that kind of hatred - don't worry about it. Even under Franco, a guy who couldn't stand independence, Real Madrid never cheated or bought matches as many people believe. There are a lot of lies broadcast about franco and Real Madrid, such for political reasons. The truth is Franco was never a Real Madrid fan (he was Galician) and Barcelona won 5 STRAIGHT TITLES AFTER FRANCO TOOK POWER.
Real Madrid became famous because of the European Cup - not Franco.
Those guys hate us because they associate us with Franco, but that's their loss.
We hate them because they (the extremist ones) would love to break up the country through terror and violence.
Have some sympathy for Español, a club formed as a nationalist counterweight to Barcelona's independent ideologies. They disagreed with Barcelona's 'Catalunya is not Spain' slogan, and hence the patriotic club name 'Español'.
Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:
Yeah I hv a funny feeling C.Ron is going to spit in Ferguson's face and join Los Blancos. All these rumours can't be without a reason.
As they say: There's no smoke without fire.
Ha Ha ! I think if Wolfsberg play in CL next year dzeko is gonna be a major sensation. And in the next year or two every big European club is gonna chase him for his signature!
Reply to Caracoleo:
Yeah I heard Franco was an Atleti supporter, if he ever did support a Madrid team.
After what u told me about Espanyol, I respect them much more, and I bow to them for their patriotism.
Many ppl now a days are not nationalists.That is very dangerous!
Country should come before your regional background. Lots of problems like those in India too.I hate that and want to kill the separatists, 'cause they make my country weak!
Reply to Caracoleo:
I watched Zhirkov play for Russia in Euro 2008. He was very pacey, a good playmaker and free-kick taker, very creative, kinda like what Dani Alves does for Barca.But I rate Zhirkov above him!
Would be nice if he comes, but don't think Perez has him on his check-list!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Don't forget Lasa, Alkorta, Lopetegui and many many other Basque players have joined Real Madrid. People always put money and career first.
Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:
Hey man are U from Germany?
If yes, who do u think is gonna win the Bundesliga?
And who is your favourite Bundesliga club?
Reply to Caracoleo:
4 give me if I haven't heard about them!
The greatest Spanish player of all was Basque - and played for Real Madrid! Ricardo Zamora.
The second best was Catalan, I think, Luis Suarez. He played for Barcelona though.
The last decent Basque player to wear the white shirt was Aitor Karanka, and we won a Champions League with him in our defence, behind the likes of Redondo, Morientes, McManaman, Savio and of course, Nicolas Anelka.
another good left back is david luiz, from benfica.. he's 22 i think, and can play as a left back and centre back
Reply to MadridPrince:
ur Spainards and Foreigners theory is totally nonsense. Are Figo, Makelele, R.Carlos, and ZIdane Spainard?? could we still win that CL at 2002 without them?? it doesn't make any sense to anyone. The Spain National team is the best in Euro now and i would like to sign the whole team to real madrid but is this possible?? a quality player is not necessary to be a Spainish players. It only matters whether they are playing gd or bad. And besides, Pavon and Meija suck. I feel sry for u if u can't even notice what 's the main reason for Perez's previous galactico's failure. It' s becuase he relied on some 3 tier defenders to support our backline, some guy like Pavon comes in and play big role--- the failure was predictable.
I HAVE A QUESTION> Is Florentino going to answer questions on who he would like to sign to play or will he wait to do that until elections.. lets all cheer for Athletic Bilbao tommorow.. I WILL!!
Reply to Madridista4:
Yeah man! I am going to cheer 4 them too!
No way Barca gonna do the double or treble this year!
That would suck big time!
Reply to Caracoleo:
Yeah I remember Karanka! He was that guy with the funny hair.
For some reason that was my favourite Real Madrid squad of all time. I liked Anelka,Morientes and Savio.
I am amazed how Anelka is still firing for Chelsea even after 10 yrs. It's like he hasn't grown old!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
All time means since I started watching Real Madrid. I did that in 97-98!
We need to win the remaining three matches the good news is Sneijder and Saviola are back from their injuries
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
yes I'm German, and I'm for Hamburg, but I guess Wolfsburg takes it, because they'll beat hannover, and at home they always win..
by the way, dzeko is strongly linked to arsenal in Germany..
I don't think perez will talk about names, only if he has signed a player he might say his name..if he says he wants to buy him him and him the players get much more expensive..I hope he says: I want a young promising left defender and stuff like that..
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
the idea of having more spanish players is to just strengthen madrid's background as a spanish club.if you take a look at the top 4 of bpl,you can see that their identity has been lost throughout the years especially arsenal(no more than one englishmen).
Reply to flynn:
but you must admit that liverpool and manu do have a couple of important English players..and arsenal hasn't lost identity, their identity is only French, not English..there are tons of French players is the youth system of arsenal..and chelsea has 15 world class players all of the level of lets say roberto carlos or so (small exaggeration I know)
Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:
man utd and liverpool might have a couple of key english players but that doesnt compensate the lack of local players in the team.and their best players are portugese and spanish !about arsenal !how can an english club adopt a french identity ?if so,shouldnt they play in ligue 1 instead.
On Goal.com : Liverpool And Atletico Madrid Nearing Forlan Deal - Report
Shit! Man this is not right! Why Rafa stealing all the talent from La Liga and bringing it to EPL?
The addition of Forlan would make Liverpool's strike force even more deadly now- Torres, Forlan,Gerrard,Alonso.
We better get some good players in our squad now, or who knows they might beat us again 5-0 next year!
hi guys according to tribalfootball.com ribery has already agreed personal terms with florentino with the little help from zizou and will complete his move as soon as perez takeover realmadrid..i think it is a good news..there r also rumours that perez prefers to have ronalo and ribery as wingers than having ribery and robben....besides ribey david villa is also close to be a member of real amdrid next term
according to AS.com the ribery deal is done and will be made official in a couple of weeks , bayern's directors are already looking for his replacement all this has been done thanx to ribery's agent who also was zidane's agent when we signed him so now our directors will sit with bayern's to close everything up , www.as.com for anybody that can read spanish
o yea the xabi alonso deal is almost done as well his 30 mil price tag is the only thing between us and him right now
Reply to AndresMadrid:
why not have granero instead of alonso?he's been performing greatly in recent years. plus,with supposedly ribery,robben with villa coming,im sure we can afford to put a talented potential player in midfield.
granero ( who is a right winger these days ) and alonso are two different kinda players they could both help us greatly , dont forget that we're offloading a lot of dead weights so i dont think that finding space for both of them will be a probelm
Reply to flynn:
look at the team and then tell me what they look like--French or English--please--I say they SHOULD play in Ligue 1...
i wonder whats going to happen to mahamadou diarra after he recovers now that "lass" has been a fan favourite ?
flynn if it was up to me i'd keep mahamadou his physique could come in handy look at the way "Lass" was bullied around by the liverpool midfield because of his small sizes
Reply to AndresMadrid:
yeah but he is going to demand regular playing time which means benching lass.whatever happens,we still gonna have to choose between the two diarras !
Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:
thats one of a few reason i oppose wenger comming to madrid.despite their stlylish brand of football,i couldnt remember the last time they ever hold a cup.they use to be so damn good,didnt they ?
Reply to flynn:
but I'm not opposed to ribery, benzema and clichy..if they buy those players+youthplayers from Spain+xabi alonso this would be a scaring team with wenger as coach..next year we could buy star players like kaka or ronaldo, but the foundation of the team would be awesome..I don't think we can win cl. in one year..
but I expect mourinho to be the new coach, you?
Metzelder is likely to leave I think!
Bruno Alves would be a good replacement.
you're right flynn lets just hope we choose the right diarra
RealMadridfan having a team THAT good is a crime ahah but damn do i wish we could have a team like that
Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:
Im not sure i want mourinho as our coach , i once tried to watch his inter play even though i drank 3 red bulls i still fell asleep thats how boring his team is but hey what do i know lol
Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:
i agree.you cant win the cl in one year.the team needs chemistry which takes time.i would try laurent blanc as coach.with the signing of silva,villa and albiol from valencia with gourcuff from bourdeux.clichy would be a nice addition.however,i still believe in sticking with the core of the team.
Reply to AndresMadrid:
I didn't say I want mourinho, I think he will be our new coach..I would prefer ancelotti1. and wenger2...then mourinho3.
but I think if we end up with mou we can't cry..
but again I ask all of you, who do you think will be the new coach??
Reply to AndresMadrid:
mahamadou diarra looks a better player in my perspective,in terms of passing and controlling the midfield.however,the age factor does come to mind when you put those two together.
Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:
my bad ludwig in any case mourinho wont take the real madrid job even if we offered it to him because like wenger he likes to be in control of everything that has something to do with his team at madrid he wont have that kinda power
i think the favorites for the job are ancelotti and pellegrini
Reply to flynn:
i'd rather sign the ENTIRE national team to real madrid if possible. But i don't see the need of selling RObben unless he could be used to trade C.Ron. I totally understand the background thing.
however, since u bring up the EPL top 4. i'd like to give u a respond. Besides Gerrald and Jamie Carragher, can u even name the 3rd English player from their lineup??? they are indeed similar to real madrid(Iker and Sergio) but their squad is more balance . Chelsea and Man Utd maybe convincible. i agree that it's important to strengthen the background. I'd rather have David Silva, David Villa, Mata, and Xabi Alonso in our squad for next year but i don't think it will happen cuz Perez is more likely to chase C.ron and Kaka.
mou hates barca as much as I do,
he doesn't enjoy Italy, and Real Madrid with Perez is a different Madrid..he said thousand times he once wants to coach real..
but I take ancelotti without a breath..
Reply to flynn:
Lol! We can win CL this year dudes! One year can make all the difference, especially if Ronaldo and Villa both come, not even the Devil can take the CL away from us!
And btw, I want us to win the CL this season, 'cause it will be played at the Bernabeu and to win the CL at our home ground would be awesome!
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
i dont understand the fuss about ronaldo.i'd pick robben over him anytime.robben had to play with a ghost team with no support and he still looks good !
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Well the previous he scored around 16goals and this year he already has 19...which with a small club like Almeria isn't easy.I'd like to point out that that's the same amount our strikers have scored so I think he's quite good...also he would be VERY woth ir since he will only cost us 4 million.
Hmm I voted against Perez a few posts ago....but he's been able to change my mind if what he says is true...let's see who'll come
Reply to flynn:
if we really wanna compete in both CL and La Liga, having two world class defensive holding midfielders are reasonable. The playing time problem can be easily solved if the coach knows how to rotate and make the circulation properly. Look at barca's crazy schedule, if we have a schedule like that, we have to play a critical game twice a week. Having two holding midfielders will not be too much(a guy like Xabi is necessary to be in the squad if gago is loaned out). if Keita and YAYA toure can be co-existed, i don't see the problem of having both of them. Sometimes it's necessary to start both of them if we play against a team like Barcelona away from home.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
thats true.but the problem now lies with the coach.looking at the coaching names being mentioned,most of them dont have the slightest clue on rotation system.plus,i dont think the term "playing with 2 holding midfielders" makes sense to perez.however.it would be great if it works out like you said.
things are getting hot these dayz, but i don't believe on nth until i heard the announcement of Perez. Calderon had taken away all the credit that i used to have with my club, so i don't believe any rumor. However, I would like to share some thoughts with all the RM mates.
first of all, i don't think we can get C.Ron, at least not this summer. i personally think Perez has the ambition to sign the him but he wil likely wait until his contract expire instead of putting the enormous amount just on one single player. the version i heard is that Perez will ONLY insist on one single deal which is the wut so called "the annual superstar" deal. And he will pass all the other signing to the sport consulting crew(most likely Ziziou is included). and i believe the GUY he is working at is Kaka, the Ribery deal seems to be close under Zizou and his former agent, who's ribery 's agent,'s effort. However, I really worry cuz i doubt whether a left back will be concerned since i don't hear anything about left back so far. It's my dream to have Lahm with us but it seems extremely hard. an additional CB is needed(in my opinion).
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
winning the cl in bernabeu is a dream to any madrid fans.most likely it will stay that way.the cl has been tougher nowadays with the emergence of bpl and barcelona.and just putting big name players on the field isnt going to bring that success.im not saying its impossible but it sure is going to be hard !
Reply to flynn:
Man there is a reason he is current FIFA world player of the year, and that is brilliant individual performance leading to trophies.
If u think Robben is good, then wait till Ronaldo arrives.
Also Robben is way too selfish for my liking, never passes balls to Higuain or Hunter!
Although he is good otherwise.
May be we can have Ronaldo,Robben and Ribery all switching positions with each other.
Reply to flynn:
I think both are equal except for 3 very important factors where Ronaldo is superior...Ronaldo doesn't get injured as often as Robben and Ronaldo can shoot way way way better than Robben and lastly has better shirt sales.Other than that I think they're equal but I don't see the point of getting rid of Robben to get Ronaldo either...I'd rather have Robben and Ribery with Granero and Marcelo as subs.Oh and I forgot to mention...however there is something Robben is clearly better than Ronaldo...and that is character...I mean Ronaldo can unsettle the hormony within the squad
that will only happen when there's a starting 12! .i still believe ronaldo is too arrogant for madrid.the only thing he can do is create havoc. we'd be better off going for ribery and silva rather than pursuing him.
Reply to flynn:
All we need is BELIEF folks!
I think after 5 years of getting knocked out in the last 16, it's finally going to be our year.
And if we win the La Liga , it's not going to be that much special. We have already won 2 in the last 2 years.
What everybody at Real Madrid want, including Perez and Valdano, is the 10th European Cup.
That is the only thing that will restore our honour, nothing more, nothing less.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
belief can only get us so far as we have experienced in the past 5 seasons.the rest is up to luck,individual skills,teamwork and a great tactician.which none of that we have at the moment.
Reply to flynn:
If I am right, there was a poll asking Real Madrid fans who they want most to become RM player?
And the answer was overwhelmingly in Ronaldo's favour. I think 70-80% fans want him to come to Madrid.
About attitude: even Guti has some issues, but he has been around here for so long, why not Ronnie?
And I agree Ronaldo will increase Real Madrid
brand value several times over, and may even bring some of his fans over to Madrid, which are a lot!
We want more fans, so that can we can pimp MAN U to the title of "Most popular club in the world"!
Reply to flynn:
Don't hv so low expectations mate!
After all U are a RM fan!
Let us see what transpires b/w now and next year's final.
Only time will tell what our future beholds!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
i saw that poll once.wasnt iniesta the one who received the most vote including mine.if you look at guti,what has he done for madrid? not much.although i dont think guti is a problematic player.it was only made up by the press regarding his inconsistent performence.plus,we want to be the most successful not popular.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
im just being realistic not setting the bar low for madrid.this season has been the low point of this club and it takes time to reach our best again.
Don't think Iniesta is gonna be sold by Barca ever.Maybe the International fans (outside of Spain) voted for Ronnie.
I want both success and bragging rights over MAN U!
Reply to flynn:
Ok Ok dude! I get what u r are trying to say!
But still I think that this is our year.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
it certainly could be !
Reply to flynn:
HALA MADRID * 10^9
Florentino thinks he's got Kaka in the bag, Calderon thinks Ronaldo is definetly gonna sign for madrid and now reports have surfaced that ribery has signed a deal with perez.
i think we need to get 2 out of 3 and one should definetly be kaka
Reply to MadridPrince:
I think kaka would be difficult because he plays for his boyhood idol club AC Milan. The man is living his dream. I don't think he will come to us!
Reply to flynn:
it won't matter cuz Perez ain't gonna be the one who decides the starting lineup. Even if he'd had a bad history of interfering the club's technical stuffs. It's way too over if he also makes some tactical decision. Del Bosque had very successfully put Makelele&Fabio, and Makelele&Cambiasso together. It's flexibile depending upon the situation. That's why we'd been arguing about who's the right manager of RM next season.
--------------Casillas------------------
=------Ramos---Pepe----Metzelder/Garray-----Lahm-
---------Lass(M.Diarra)---Xabi Alonso--------
Robben(Higuain)---------Kaka-------Ribery(Higuain)
Higuain(Huntelaar)
--------------Casillas------------------
-----Ramos---Pepe----Metzelder/Garray-----Lahm-
---------Lass(M.Diarra)---Xabi Alonso--------
Robben(Higuain)---------Silva------Ribery(Higuain_--------------Casillas------------------
=------Ramos---Pepe----Metzelder/Garray-----Lahm-
---------Lass(M.Diarra)---Xabi Alonso--------
Robben(Higuain)---------Silva------Ribery(Higuain)
David Villa(Higuain)
Higuain(Huntelaar)
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Where is Ronaldo?
Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:
I am happy no one is talking about Juande for next season anymore!
AS has repoted that Perez will sign Ribery for 50 million Euros. What 50 million?
How are we then going to fund the transfers of Kaka,Ronaldo,Villa etc. ?
I think Ribery's value is b/w 25-30 million Euros.
50 million is a bit too much!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
That's because nobody is talking about managers anymore for the time being
From the available coaches I'd keep Jurade and it seems Casillas said Jurade deserves more time too 
As for the new team I'd like this....
----------------Casillas
Ramos(Torrs)--Pepe---Garay(Metz)--Zhirkov(Marcelo)
--------Lass(Diarra)-------Sneijder(De La Red)
Silva(Granero)--------------------Ribery(Marcelo)
------------Higuain(Raul)
---------------------Huntelaar(RVN/Negredo)
I think Robben will unfortunately leave because of perez
Reply to flynn:
I think Mahamouda Diarra is way better.
Lass is over-rated. All he does is run around the ball in circles, along with Gago!
Out of Lass and Hunter, Juande had the choice to register either one of them. He chose Lass, to "bolster the midfield", yeah right, that's why we lost 5-0 aggregate to Liverpool!
No wonder Huntelar feels neglected at RM!
And we were lacking a forward after RVN's injury, but Juande went for the midfielder. The result was we failed to score one goal in both the legs combined!
Shame on u Juande! At least accept ur mistakes.
Then ppl will respect u, somewhat!
i hope robben stays if real wil sell robben for ronaldo it's not only stupid but disrespectfull to. Cause without robben the race for the 1 place in the la liga would probably not bin so excited cause he won our first 5 matches almost all on his own. and sure ronaldo is a great player but i don't think he is better as robben and his personalety will cause a lot of problems in the team i think. and sure robben gets injured fast but he heals fast to.
Reply to Danniel:
I think Juande too will unfortunately leave because of Perez!
And I think we are not talking abt Juande 'coz he does not seem to be in Perez's plans!
Reply to real madrid fann fromm...:
You see how Robben becomes so frustrated and seems to give up, when ppl are marking him and he doesn't get the ball? I don't like that attitude of his!
Also Robben is very selfish player,always goes for the goal himself when he can just pass the ball to his unmarked team-mates.This quality of his has cost us many goals unfortunately!
And how come we got so many hot-heads like Marcelo,Ramos and Pepe in our team? That's not good for our image!
We need to clamp down on these men, especially Marcelo and Ramos.
Ramos is way too cocky, especially for a defender.
Looking at the past jerseys of Real Madrid, I noticed one thing: everytime we have the black-and white combo,we do badly. On the other hand when we incorporate the blue instead of black, we do quite well.
Maybe black is unlucky for us!
Reply to Danniel:
I don't know what has happened to Casillas! He let in some silly goals against Barca and Valencia, and now he is supporting Juande?
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
he should be at Robben's spot if he is available. But honestly, i think kaka will be more likely to come.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
this lineup is strong enough to challenge every single team in Europe.(not sure about the Mel/Garray part) All four attackers are inter-changable. IT's way better than the typical 4-4-2 which lacks of flexibility to change.
For the C.Ron signing. I don't think Perez will do it this summer. He will be more likely to wait one more season. C.Ron had said they Real Madrid is not an attraction for him anymore after the el Classico. This cocky star wouldn't change his mind unless we can regain our fame next season. Kaka is already on his peak in Milan and he can't go farther than wut he is now. He needs a new place to go up to another level.
-------------villa-------------higuain
----------------------VDV
ribery--------------------------------ronaldo
------------------lassana
marcelo----richards/chema anton----pepe------ramos
---------------------casillas
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
2001/2002 ... black and white- UEFA champions league
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
its just how some players are.. if we change that, then their play will be different, maybe for the good, maybe for the bad.. what will happen if ronaldo and even messi becomes less selfish?
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
don't worry, we have alot of money.. after all, this is the 2nd richest club in the world..! especially WHEN perez arrives, (he is going to arrive, the other candidate is promising drogba,coutinho and some other player.. buying drogba is a joke in itself) he is going to spend alot of money to take us back to the top..!
Reply to madridtrini4:
It's way too offensive. Marcelo is not suitable to be in the left back spot cuz he is too weak defensively, he could be superb someday but definitely not rite now. Richards is not convincible enough to be a world class defenders and there are bunch of CB who are way better in terms of quality.(Garray is one of those) Lass will be overwhelmed in this lineup. We can't make the mistake that Perez 'd made with his last galactico---Defence. We gotta maintain the bond Properly , so i prefer sneijder to VDV in ur lineup.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
eventually marcelo could be able to be close to replacing roberto carlos on the left back.. i think lassana is a good replacement for makalele, and this 4-1-2-1-2 was one of the formations we used, and this won us the champions league in 02/03.. the only difference is our weak defense.. maybe if we draft sergio ramos into the middle with pepe? for only a couple matches..
Reply to madridtrini4:
mate, we're talking about RIGHT NOW!! i'd already said SOMEDAY he COULD BE the best in the world but now right now. We can't afford to have such a big gap on playing against some top rank teams. ANd the only reason that we should put Ramos, the best right back in the world to the middle is that we can get a guy like Maicon or Daniel Alvez, with whom one more holding midfielder has to be in the lineup in order to cover..... this is not necessary!! for ur 4-1-2-1-2, i don't see a BALANCE of defense and offense. I dare say it MUST NOT be used unless we' re down by 2 or 3 goals!!
Great Post. Thanks.