Villarreal 3-2 Real Madrid | La Liga Review
Saturday, 16 May 09, 03:09 AM · Comments (380)
3-2 
Lineup
Casillas, Ramos, Cannavaro, Heinze, Torres, Lass, Javi Garcia, Robben, Van der vaart, Rau'l, Huntelaar
Goals
Rafael van der Vaart
47'
Gonzalo Higuain
88
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hope juande ramos gives agus a chance instead of heinze.van der vaart needs to start and prove his worth as well.
breaking news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! according to MARCA we have signed Kaka from AC Milan for 5 years 63mill if this is true i'm all ready liking Perez's new era
Reply to alex:
cant believe afterall the source is marca!!!!
Reply to trooper:
The Marca you questioning have revealed Calderon's cheatings, Bernd's appointment , VDV signings and a lot more
Until I see him in the White jersey with my own eyes, I'm aint believing it!
Reply to alex:
According to the news, Kaka and his dad(his manager) have already accepted all the deals that Florentino offers. But the brazilian will still AC Milan the right to make the final decision. So everything is depending upon whether Silvio Berlusconi accept the amount Perez offers or not. But nth will be confirmed before this season ends.
i won't be so optimistic since i'd already lost all my confidence to those rumors. Thanks for Calderon's promise, WHICH NEVER COMES TRUE.
Reply to alex:
Well after last years transfer window saga i think all madrid fans are a bit sceptic when they hear a big name player is coming especially the likes of kaka and c. ronaldo. So i totally agree wit Adam "i aint beliveing it till i see kaka in a white jersey". I wont lie though just picturing him in a madrid jersey gives me goosebumbs(in a good way). Man i really hope perez can do some magic!!!!!!!!!!!
How can this transfer be confirmed before the elections? Anyways looking at the probable eleven for tonight's game I have to admit its a very attack minded one, but our defence is down to the bare bones. Casillas is going to be busy for sure if Villarreal play the way they did against Barca last week.
If they got Kaka already then Perez might really exhaust all means to get the players he named. I'll just have to look forward to a new season.
As for the game we really dont have anything to play for. So its hard to make a prediction. The game can go either way. Only reason im going to watch the match is cos of higuain, casillas ,robben lass and for godsakes lets play huntelar for the whole 90mins!!!!!!!! A luxury he should of had ever since janurary. Oh yeah 4got to mention ramos and maybe marcelo still not that impressed by his performance sorry to say.
Reply to anthony wallace:
Villarreal will be licking their lips looking at our center defence. I can only pray really and hope that we score more than them! Could be a high scoring thriller though!
Reply to losblancos_dxb:
im concerned about ibagaza.the way he carved open barca's defence,and madrid having heinze at the back.its a sign of an oncoming disaster !
waw waw waw, the news about kaka really pump me up, haha, but anyway, we should give him the freedom like he can have in Milan, so that he can affect the whole team's play, like how he did now. i actually see that sneijder, and even vaart, have the same role, and nearly-same capability, but the way we play simply lock their ability, playing vaart in central midfield, playing sneijder in winger, it wont work, trust me.
Ass clown Juande for heaven's sake start Huntelaar tonight and drop midget Heinze.
Also bring Saviola on after 60 min. as a sub.
Kaka indeed looks like a done deal this time. There are multiple confirmations although nothing official yet of course.
Kaka is not the player he once was, and I hope he is able to recuperate his previous form.
This could well spur Crisitano Ronaldo on to signing for Madrid as well. SO the midfield would line up with:
Ronaldo Lassana Kaka Marcelo / Ribery
Personally I think it's a bit lightweight in terms of defensive duties. I believe we should push Kaka up the field and bring in another defensive midfielder to help out Lassana. Could be DIarra, Di Rossi, Alonso...?
I would also expect us to play with one classic centre forward target man: Huntelaar. But where does that leave Raul?
As we know he HAS TO PLAY, because no coach has the balls to bench him - unless Florentino give him the OK.
It would also also leave Higuain on the bench, our best attacking player this season!
Wow, some difficult choices to be made eh?
Reply to Caracoleo:
Yeah I also hv doubts abt Kaka's form.
i dont think so that kaka deal is done!!!!
because earlier today his agent clearly claimed this news as unreliable and rubbish...he also said that there is no agrement between kaka and realmadrid and no one should doubt kaka's loyalty
I read on Goal.com that traitor Negredo would even consider a move to Barca in the summer! Why the fuck our youth players don't hv loyalty to our club?
No Barca youth player would ever say things like that!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Yeah I don't mind if they don't play for us, but for god's sake don't play for our eternal foes Blaugrana!
Reply to trooper:
I'm sorry but thats a dumb question. The team you grow up in throws you away. You expect them to come back?
You know what... even Mata doesn't wanna join Madrid I'll bet my right nut on it.
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
Sorry meant to quote darknight009
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
Who threw them? They are loaned, to mature and become better players, to prove that they deserve to play for Madrid!
Only the WORLD'S BEST PLAYERS play for Real Madrid!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Don't have doubts about kaka's form. The fact is that he is still that magnificant player that won the world player of the year. the only thing that has changed is that he keeps getting injured. but whenever he does play he does well. this can be seen by the fact that milan only do well when kaka is fully fit
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
buscquets said he would join madrid if barca didn't offer him a new good deal. he said this because he wanted barca to offer him the new deal, the same thing i think negredo is doing.
The reason why players may not want to comeback to madrid is because of what has happened under claderon. Soldado, Javi Garcia, De La Red and Balboa all came back only to sit on the bench. soldado and balboa have left, javi garcia looks likely to leave and de la red has just been unfortunate to be injured
The staring line up should be:
-----------Casillas
Torres, Ramos, Cannavaro, Drenthe,
-Palanca, Diarra, Parejo, Robben
-------Higuain, Huntelaar
Bench: Dudek, Agus, Heinze, Javi Garcia, VDV, Saviola, Raul,
but won't be
Ha!! I would like to see Negredo play for Barcelona... how far do you think he'd get?
Of course Kaka is a fine player, but I'm not sure he is currently on a par with Messi or Cristiano at the moment. His form has gradually declined in the past 3 years, that's why Milan are finally letting him go. Maybe a change of club is what he needs.
Reply to Caracoleo:
I don't think milan want to sell kaka. Milan selling kaka would be the same as madrid selling casillas. i think that the signings that perez will make will be ronaldo and ribery and i doubt it will be kaka. maybe if perez offers a big amount of money to milan as well as arjen robben, RVN and Sneijder then maybe milan will accept because who would reject money AND three of the worlds best players?? If milan do decide to sell kaka, florentino will be the first to know and he should defo buy him
I have been watching kaka play and this season he has only played poor when ronaldinho was also on the pitch. thats because ronaldinho was given the free role and kaka had to do more defending. but when ronaldinho hasn't started kaka has played superbly
Also, in man utd v arsenal today ronaldo looked totally uninterested in the game today. when decisions went against him he quietly accepted them when normally he is crying like a bitch about them. He was only lively during the celebrations of winning the title. i have a very strong feeling that he will be leaving united very soon.
ribery will leave but it is a question of where. he has said in the past that he likes real for their history but he has also stated his desire to go to barca due to what the french contingent has been telling him about them. can't wait till season ends so florentino's plans can unfold
2 more hrs to go 4 the match start! I can't stay awake that long!
Reply to MadridPrince:
Yeah About Ronaldo he clearly does not want to play at manchester they asked him today if he would stay in manchester and he said the future you never know.. also there is news about David Villa where it says Valdano is working on getting a deal done with Valencia a deal 30 million plus Negredo or just 40 million.. lets play well today vs villareal
hey madridistas how my barca ass taste? 6-2!!! at the bernaboo!
Reply to barcalakerfan4life:
why r u asking when u already have tasted that last year in the bernabooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!lol maybe someone needs to refreesh your meomory,u pathetic son of bloddy catalan whore....
Reply to trooper:
those catalan spanked fc franco ass so bad the fans had to leave with tears what a shame!! its one thing to lose but in front of ur own fans is something else my friend 6-2!!!
Reply to trooper:
no need to lower yourself to the pathetic level of barcalakerfan4life.
The fact that he is on here trying to talk down madrid is really pathetic. he obviously doesn't find barcelona interesting enough
Javi Garcia is starting again.. Casillas,Ramos,Cannavaro,Heinze,Torres,Lass,Javi Garcia,VDV,Robben,Raul,Huntelaar.. Higuain is on the bench
Reply to MadridPrince:
Reply to Madridista4:
This is why Juande Ramos sucks! Starting Raul for Higuain- yeah that's common sense!
what the fuck is wrong woth juande!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!why is higuain not playin>>>
bravo junade bravoooooo!!!!!no wonder perez dont want u
oh crap.. juande,bring higuain in will ya??
Robben can't play like Ronaldo!
Has done nothing till now, takes too much time on the ball, doesn't give service to strikers.
Sell that baldy! We don't need him!
Our defense is crap!
We still suck!
What is the difference b/w Galactico era defense and now?
I would choose Galactico side any day!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
exactly he is more a liability than anything else>>>
1-0 Villareal at HT.
Reply to trooper:
Glad u agree!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
yeah Robben will be sold because Ribery and Ronaldo are coming
I can't understand one thing: Juande is already on his way out! Then why is he afraid of dropping Raul?
What a freak startto 2n half!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
yes, if juande got guts, he should subtitute raul in second half.
Sucker Robben! Always tries to steal the limelight. I can't remember the last time his assist resulted in a goal for us!
Why take Huntelaar off? Why not Raul? F*** MF Juande Ramos!
How can he take Hunter off ahead of Raul?
Damn u Juande?
Wtf Lass doing running around the ball like that?
Lass always makes a fool out of himself!
If U see this game, and still think Robben isn't selfish, then u are a dummy!
hi! just open my internet, haha, yeah, i dont know how can a smart and professional coach can choose raul over huntelaaar, well, for god sake, desperately, just bring that old man aragones, he's the only one i know has the guts to not only bench, even drop raul from his squad
LOL! 2-1 Villareal
U see what we got with Juande Ramos? Shit attack and shitter defense!
Now Adam if u still think Juande is a good coach, then what can I say!
Where r all the regular folks on this blog? I wanna chat live.
Juande doesn't play Hunter 'cause he does not kiss his ass like Gago!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
we're all here , we're just too pissed off chat
oh man look at casillas' face! the only thing i'm afraid is that someday he might, even though i believe in his loyalty, go to other club, and if that happen, then that's the end of legendary madrid. i mean, he's accepted universally as one of the best goalkeeper ever, in the same league with schmeichel, seaman, zoff, etc, but, i doubt those keepers ever feel conceded by 6, 3, and 2, possibly more, in three weeks! oh just kill those crap defender
Reply to MadridIndo:
Yeah ,by looking at the no. of goals we concede, I don't feel like we have the world's best GK in our side.
Juande has lost his mind! Brings on Drenthe and Parejo.
shud've played parejo instead of javi garcia from the start !!
I can't see the logic behind any of Juande's substitutions, in all of the matches I have seen so far!
Juande should get his head chopped off at the guillotine!
parejo! finally! cant wait to see his play
Why does Juande's face remind me of shit?
Robben sucks BIG TIME!
Raul what would it take to send U to ur grave? The Italian mafia?
scored the 2nd , but why are they happy ?
Wasn't that offside?
yep see , there's the winner goal 3-2
LOL! Casillas has lost it too. He is not in form!
Why does he have a bad run from time to time?
Casillas has not looked a happy bunny in the last 3-4 games.
there have been talk before perez's election that valdano wanted to get Manuel Pellegrini to coach madrid next season ,, i can see why , look wat the hell he made of Villarreal ..
there goes our laliga! there are still always next year guys, congratulation for barca, wait for us next year, i'm signing off, hala madrid!!!
Reply to kid_rock:
Just wait for Perez! All our tears and nightmares will go away next season.
Plz somebody tell Mr.Raul to leave Madrid for good.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
dude it's not just raul , look at heinze and cannavaro , s.ramos , heck if iker isnt in form , why the hell did we get javi garcia back ?
Barca are champions! Somebody pop the Champagne for me!
Barca have the double. Now what we gotta wait 4? The treble? Why god? Why U have to make me suffer so much?
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
dude ronaldo plays in a team were everybody plays on top level if you put robben in man u i can tell you he will play the same maby even better as cr but you can't expect him to play amazing with the rest of the team playing like shit !! like they al did tonight and man garcia is so bad why does ramos put him in the starting line up.
Reply to kid_rock:
Yeah I agree Canna, Heinze and Javi Garcia along with Gago, Salgado,Raul,VDV are crap players.
I think we brought Javi Garcia back to satisfy some of our youth team lobbyists, we have some of them among us!
why is everybody talking like that about robben !! come on if there was one player who atleast try to make something of it it was robben he was in the beginning a little bit unlucky but after he was the only one who cause a little bit of a treat.
everyone won a title 2day , man utd , barca and inter
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
It's because Real Madrid had NEVER shown any respect to the youths.
Reply to footballlerrr:
U are wrong! Watch Robben closely. See what he does during the game. The team thing is just an excuse!
ManU is 50% Ronaldo! With him injured in the first few games of the EPL, Man U were losing games, and were 6th or 7th in the table.
Then when Ronaldo came back into the team, he single-handedly picked Man U up.
Even Arshavin said Man U is half the side without Ronaldo!
We lost to a team that was badly beaten by Arsenal. Just goes to show how poor we really are. It also shows how important Pepe is to us. Since he got suspended we've been letting in goals left right and centre. Pepe is absolutely vital to us.
The team looks very tired. Lassana has run more in this half season than in his entire career I bet. He was not helped by the fact that the team had no shape again.
Is it me, or do the Real Madrid full backs Ramos, and Torres NEVER overlap the winger in possession? Isn't this the main reason why we never get a single dangerous cross into the box? Isn't this the reason why Robben always seems outnumbered on the flank?
Why can't someone overlap the guy on the wing?
Reply to madrid loveee:
One reason: give passes to the strikers!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Don't u mean Drenthe, Heinze, Gago?? We loaned them them out ot mature??? mature my ass, even those crappy players could get chance to perform in team A but no chance was given to some brilliant youths like David Moreno and Mata, so was Negrado and Eto, the one who is considered to be the biggest traitor, but had we even given him a chance except for some limited minutes in 99-00. that's ridiculuous.
We better win the last 2 games we have left because we cannot finish with a losing streak.. we will have Gago,Marcelo back from suspension.. and hopefully Sneijder and Guti..
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Shouldn't it be the other way round? Youth players should respect Real Madrid, whatever be the system's shortcomings. Club comes first b4 all else!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
u are right in this point!! at least we could have a much greater midfielders during hte Galactico to reduce the pressure off the weak backline. But now....Junk.
Reply to Caracoleo:
I am tired of this 2nd tier Segunda division A Real Madrid side!
May be that's why the Castilla is languishing in Segunda B? They think the senior team is in Segunda A! Ha Ha!
We are not attracting any players by losing these games we have left.. WE HAVE TO WIN THE LAST 2 GAMES.. and we can do it .. but we will have major changes in the summer and im ready for Florentino Perez and seeing him bring in the players he wants
Reply to kid_rock:
Barca FC won their 2nd title tonight.
Why sad? We have Juande's 17 game ( shitty, crap) unbeaten run to be proud of along with his sickening STUPIDITY AND IDIOCITY AND LACK OF VISION AND LACK OF COACHING SENSE AND LACK OF EVERYTHING,including a pair of balls!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
wut the heck is wrong with u?? lassana is the only one who carried the ball the most and protected the ball so well even compared with VDV. He appeared to be the only jam and followed throught precisely everytime we dispossessed. He gotta run cuz that's wut a DCM ought to do. That's just some basic football knowledge. He did the right thing. The only thing u ought to critisize is that he didn't pass the ball that well. Other than that, he played above the average level in this game. That's just some COMMON SENSE man, don't u play football in real life? if u don't, please stop critisizing some players with some ignorant point of view. There are only two possibilities for a holding midfielder doesn't run on the pitch:1. He is a handicap; or 2. He is a retard.
Reply to Madrids_Martyr:
i think he said that already, that he doesn't want to play for us..
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Wut goes around, wut comes back around!! as a professional players, everyone is concerning his own career. Why would those youngstaz still wanna waste their time in real madrid if we don't even give them a chance. They are young and their career can be ruined. the life of a professional footballer is not that long. If u are a professional footballer, u might have concerned ur future first, be practical!! respect?? who will respect u if u don't give them the "basica" essential respect. This is the fault of those who are running the youth system. They fucking ruin it.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
I never said they were good for Madrid either!
All I want is the best players of the world to play for Real Madrid!
F*** everyone else! F*** the youth if they can't bring us CL!
perez is ready to pay 150 million euros which is the buy-ot clause of leo messi to get him next season ...
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
lassana was our best player tonight..!! in the first half, our defensive midfielder was our best attacker.. whats up with that? and why didn't higuain start tonight? hunterlaar did absolutely nothing..! if we have to choose between higuain and hunterlaar, higuain should be our choice.. he does everything for us..
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
have you ever played for a club? do you know what it feels like when you are on the bench for a player that can't play half as good as you? and the reason is because the coach likes the player, or the player is related to the owner of the club..? that is very frustrating ok, i agree with most of the players that left madrid.. look at agus, he is 24 years old!! and yet, playing for a B team.. i think he should go..
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
I never saw anyone run around the ball like a schoolboy!
A Mascherano does not run around like that!
Lass has no physical strength.U saw that in the CL against Liverpool. They treated him like a schoolkid and made a mockery out of him. Since that game, I have not been convinced abt him.
Why u so senti abt him, we still lost 3-2.
Any other avg. DCM could take his place and we could still lose 3-2. What part does Lass play?
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Man why u talking abt this now ? That was 3-4 hrs. ago! Talk abt the match dude!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
because of lass, we actually had chances created in the first half.. other than VDV and him, every madrid playing was playing utter bull
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
That was 4 Anti-Mijatovic btw!
Reply to madridtrini4:
Reply to madridtrini4:
Yeah yeah now u r the expert on everything football.I am the fool here! I wonder why they don't ask u to be RM's sporting director!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
when we are young, we join these clubs because we love football, and the club.. we didn't think that there would be a bias to some players.. it hurts also because they don't want to leave, but, they have to.. you have to remember, we are not just footballers, we are people to..
Reply to madridtrini4:
Yeah curse Huntelaar, Raul is better than him! Is that wat u said?
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Do U think u are better than Huntelaar madritini4?
Reply to madridtrini4:
That brought tears to my eyes... like in hell!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
nope.. hunterlaar is a box striker, without a supporting striker, or good service, he is as good as nothing.. we all know raul is not going to get benched, so the choice is higuain or hunterlaar..
and dude, when did i say anything close to i was better than hunterlaar? i never said anything like that, so please read over.. and btw, i'm 16, so basically you are arguing with a minor, lol..
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
then don't say anything like they have to respect real madrid. If we don't need them, just let them then!!
Reply to madridtrini4:
exactly what i wanted 2 say ( the comparison i mean )
Reply to kid_rock:
I don't want our enemy no.1 Messi to play for us!
Reply to kid_rock:
which comparison?
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Yeah I just say don't join our youth system to play for our direct rivals!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
that's ur opinion ,,
i dont like it any more than u do , but we need him if we are to win titles next season
Reply to madridtrini4:
that huntelaar is a box striker and raul is not gettin bench any time soon
Reply to madridtrini4:
Then show some respect to an adult. I am 22.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
exactly.. if we don't respect them, why should they respect us? when they leave, let them go wherever they want to! if they want to go to barca (although that will be a very big disrespect, but who cares), let them go.. its their life..
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
wtf?? Mascherano doesn't run??? go count the average tackling rate of Lass first b4 u said he runs like a schoolboy. Mascherano doesn't HAVE to run as much as Lassana because he has Xabi Alonso partnered up with him. go watch that match again!! Gago didn't even do shit and forced Lass to do the extra!! be reasonable. Even Pirlo and Rossi has to chase the ball whenever dispossessing. U talk about physical strenght. please give some SPECIFIC evidence or any particular single play that indicates lass is weak or sth. convinciable my ass, give out some visible evidence first.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
i wasn't didn't start anything, you are always looking to pick up a fight with EVERYONE on this blog, chill out! its a free country!! everyone has their own opinions.. stop disrespecting other people's opinions.. and you be the adult, and stop..
Reply to madridtrini4:
i didn't start anything*
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
exactly, and since when running is something wrong?!?
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
and besides, iain't the only one who SENTI about him!! that's fucking obvious. Lassana has ALREADY earned his recognition around the world since he 's joined real madrid, at least the European medias and the french national team coach. i dare u ask anyone in this blog if they think Lass deserves to blame or not. I Dare say the vast majority will be in favor of him. U judge a player by one single game??? in which it wasn't even his fault. That was a fucking 2 against 1 match up in the midfield. It looks better if u said he deserves to blame for the third goal we lost in El Classico. It's definitely not the liverpool 's game.
Talk abt the game dudes, the game!
Youth players can join U.S. Women's soccer team if they are not getting playing time!
All I care abt is the no.10 CL! How some poor guy's career never got off, I care shit!
It was their decision in the first place!
After hearing u guys' silly excuses for our players' treason, I say F*** them! Go wherever u wanna go, and F*** ur mammas.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
i feel happy to talk about any issue whenever i like or whenever i feel like. Do they have limit of time in this blog. i don't think Adam did so.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Everyone in this blog deserves to have the right to express wutever he thinks about this club, including you, me, and madritini4. Who can come up with agreement in every single thought?? be mature mate.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
wth.. how on earth does that have ANYTHING to do with football? have you any respect for football? or the players? if not, then support something else.. and how does US women's FOOTBALL come into anything?
Reply to madridtrini4:
Don't comment on my posts then midget!
And I won't disrespect U! Can't u just remain quiet and not comment on my posts?
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
we actually got a chance of winning la liga because of lassana.. he is one of the unsung heros of world football..
Reply to madridtrini4:
Yeah last year we won without him!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
There's a big difference b/w chance and actually winning!
I am sick of everyone's excuses! Signing off!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
fine, who cares? wait, i'm guessing u just sign into here, and just wait for people to comment, and wait to start an arguement.. GET A LIFE
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
oooooooooooooooo.. u just called a 16-yr old a midget, how does that make you feel? so just because i'm 16, im a midget? grow up dude.. you just started an internet argument.. waaaaayyyy.. you are so bad, i am so afraid of you.. please don't internet kick me!
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
I am amazed how last year we won La Liga without Lass?
That should have been INCONCEIVABLE,IMPOSSIBLE judging u guys!
Lass is just a poor man's hero who doesn't have any hope!
Along with Kaka and Ronaldo, we need some one big in the defense. Our defense is useless and ageing. Perhalfs Nemanja & chiellini would be good buys..
Reply to alex:
We need Ronaldo also ..
Reply to madridtrini4:
Yeah the hell u should be !U Act like u are a grand old grandpa!
Reply to anayth:
and ribery and porto's bruno alves
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
madritini4 don't think u are a SOCCER GURU or something!
It is you who is not respecting my opinion!
U understand? Not me! So don't blame me if I get the streak!
Reply to kid_rock:
Yeah, why we keep talking abt our current losers? Think abt the future! I agree!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
then where the hell are Robinho and Baptista this season?? they contributed to be a big part of our La Liga Champions team. Our squad is further weaken this season. And do fucking barca played as bad as last season?? if we were playing against the present barcelona last season, we would still haven't win shit.
Adam I am sorry. I started it again today!
The defeats just get under my skin, especially when those bastards at Barca are doing so well!
Sorry man!
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Like I said - excuses!
my off to bed , in the end it's all in the hands of perez .. see ya Anti-Mijatovic & madridtrini4
Reply to kid_rock:
*im off to bed
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
okay, then!! i just wanna know what isn't excuses. wut's ur explanation for the first half's failure in which Lass wasn't here yet?? im just curious to know. Don't u mean he is the only to blame for real madrid's failure this season?? let me fucking set this straight. The reason of failure is because bastard Calderon and Mijatovic's stupid decision last summer. EXcuses??? i feel very sorry if DON't realize how great barcelona is playing this season. Don't u think our 08 Champion team can beat the presenet Barca?? if u do, i ain't got nth to say about!! be reasonable?? Excuses?? i think u are the one who is making excuses for the team's failure if u blame all that shit to Lassana Diarra.
it looks very stupid for pple to critisize sth but ironicallly, they couldn't even point out WHAT is wrong and couldn't come up with a solution.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
The soln. is- clear this squad out and get us the Galacticos!
SHO SHIMPLE!!!!
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
I AM JUST SAYING HE IS OVERHYPED!
DON'T ALWAYS FOLLOW THE CATTLE HERD! MAKE UR OWN JUDGEMENTS ABT SOMETHING!
Reply to kid_rock:
yea dude, l8r
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
wutever man, Im only here to discuss about soccer, other than that, who gives a shit!! let's get back to some TECHNICAL stuffs!!
CHEER FOR REAL MADRID!! CHEER FOR HEINZE!! one more GREAT performance of real madrid. I started laughing when i saw some fool among the fans with the RM jersey applauding when Capdevilla scored the third goal. the scene was funny, i could tell how despair he was from his shitty face. i got so caught up in that moment while having the same kind of feeling. This season is a joke, is a disaster. And for those who oppose to a clean-out after this season. Real Madrid deserves to have the best players and only the best players should playing in real madrid. That's enough!! spending 300 millions for getting no shit!! thanks for mijatovic and Calderon!! and don't get me wrong here!!(some pple used to distort my meaning all the time sayin' that i have to support the club no matter wut or some bullshit)!! please, i support Real Madrid no matter what 's happening even though we'd got relegated!! but it doesn't mean i HAVE to support all the 2nd tier players who are ruinning my club!! and no need to support those retarded administrators who are making ridiculuous decisions all the time!!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
You don't get respect you earn it, u might say ur 22 but u act like ur 12, i don't agree with some of ur opinions but i don't go after you for making them last time i checked this is a blog giving madridistas a voice no matter what their opinion might be so respect that.
Man this is bad! I dont even know where to start from. If i was in a coma since 2008 and i jus woke up and saw our starting lineup for 2days match my reactions will go something like who the fuck is he and who's he where did he come from, Madrid deserves way better players than the ones we have now. I totally agree wit the selling out of more than half the team. How the hell did we spend up to 300 million for this set of below average players. Man i cant wait for the summer signings to start.
Reply to alex:
wow,it has become a battle zone in here.words are flying !
Reply to anthony wallace:
and the coach needs to be replaced too.
As for the beef on this site i think we should take all our anger out on the management! I know juande and the players havnt been wonderfull but who put us in this sad predicament.We lost the season way back when shuster didnt get the players he wanted. Im actually surprised we still eneded 2nd with a squad like ours. Hienze=slow, metzelder=slow,cannavaro=slow,torres=not reliable,javi garcia=below average,gago=below average,drente=no confidence,salgado=time has past, raul=needs to retire (or see like only 20 mins in a game),vandervart and snider=one of them has to go,saviola=hasnt proven his worth the few times i saw him play,etc... All im trying to point out is we need a real facelift as soon as possible. I hate to admit this but our games have actualy been boring to watch!!!!!!
Reply to anthony wallace:
i disagree that only one of either van der vaart or sneijder can stay.they are both quality players.and if they had the advantage of having good players to play with,they could be devastating.just look at their time in ajax and holland.sneijder/van der vaart could be the iniesta/xavi of madrid.
Reply to flynn:
well if u say so, i too was a big fan of both of them but how long are we suppose to give them to get there magic back cos frankly in recent times they both have been below average and they both basically do the same thing and have the same attributes. Both of them aint that fast, cant dribble, they cant break open defences with there passing, i mean the only thing they are really good for is setpieces and shots from outside the 18 which of late hardly happens anymore so please enlighten me on why we should keep the both of them. i just feel we need to replace one of them then keep one for set pieces. just my humble opinion
Reply to flynn:
and as for the inesta\xavi comparison, they are both spanish players with pace and exqusite passing skills that can open up any defense. vandervart\snider just dont see them doing the same thing they both remind me a bit of beckam.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
I've started this blog so we can discuss all things Real Madrid in a respectful manner, but my friend, since you came on board, you have started a million fight so please stop blaming players or coaches or other other fans without providing reasons. There are rules for arguments.
For example, I've always been in favor of letting Gago and Raul go or being benched and I provided reasons for that, but most of your arguments are just meant to start flames with other members. I hate to say it, but unless you stop doing that I'm going to ban you (and trust me, you'll never be able to get back on the site no matter what).
As far as the game is concerned, I only watched the first half and it was very boring. Robben was useless and all of his tricks were pretty obvious too. The team had no pace, the two players whom I kind of liked were Lass and Van der vaart. Javi Garcia didn't help much and Lass had to do all the dirty work. Once again Rau'l was no where to be found and Casillas had to make a few saves.
I don't know what exactly happened in the second half, but the better team won. Barca won the league as well which means Perez will start cleaning the team from now. I still think Juande should stay UNLESS a better coach is appointed which is unlikely. It is either Ancelotti, Wenger or Mourinho.
Lets wait and see.
/Adam,
Nice to see you posting again.. I understand why u and some other regulars are not posting lately - and im guessing it aint because our team sucks..
Anyways, my opinion is that Juande has worked magic considering what players he was given, the institutional crisis hanging over the club, the 9(12) point deficit to the league leaders and on top of that a very injured workforce.. I dont think there are many coaches in the world that could have made such an immediate and strong impact as he gave us.. For that I will always be thankful to Juande.. Just imagine the sleepless nights we fans would of had if Schuster was still at the helm and battling Atletico and Depor for the last UCL spot.. MANY THANKS JUANDE!!!
Having said that, I strongly believe it´s time for a new fresh start for Real Madrid - and Juande simply cant be part of that new era, just like Rau´l cant be integral part of the new dynasty .. I want Blanc or Laudrup or anyone with an attacking philosophy of how football should be played - and then stick with him and back him up no matter what! Work with the coach, let him cooperate with the youth coach, let him be an integral part of transfers, let him be an integral part of renewals etc..
We have some very good players in some areas but strengthening of the squad is obviously needed. But, and this is a very important but, no matter how bad this team is(worst Real team in decades imho)we could see that madrisimo is still there.. Remember barca last year, they just gave up after the defeat in the camp nou and with 4 or 5 games to go the league was already over "clap clap"..
And by the way, Barca aint that mighty - we just made them look good..
HALA MADRID!!!
Reply to flynn:
if we need to change the style we play, we gotta work on the midfield, it should be our priority. It's been already proven that VDV and Sneijder CAN'T PLAY together on the pitch. Even in dutch national team. One of them will be disappeared even if another one is havin' a great form. Sneijder was superb against France in Euro 2008. But i wasn't even aware of VDV's existence until he touched the ball every 8 minutes. they can be great, but i don't think they can be another Xavi and Iniesta according to their playing style. They both are not likely to stick with the ball longer in order to keep the possessional, especially VDV, he is always rushing to pass and shot. i actually look up to Sneijder more cuz he has been improving match by match(although he has a bad form now). since Sneijder is a CM while VDV is a ACM. I prefer Sneijder since we can leave the space to get a faster and more skillful ACM who has the ability to attract more defenders to open space.(something i don't see any from VDV even when he was in Hamburg and Ajax).
Reply to anthony wallace:
Exactly, i admire their long-distance shots and set pieces, but that 's not what we should be looking for if we want to play possession football like we used to. I ain't doubting their ball control skill level since i'd never seen how gd they can carry the ball in personal life. But i've seen from their performances so far tells me that they are not likely to dribble and break open defense. u might argue that a good playmaker is not necessary having speed. Yes, indeed, Zidane, Xavi, and Roman Riqulme doesn't have the tremendous speed like kaka has. But the former three at least have the tremendous BALL CONTROL SKILL to protect the ball well. and they will never RUSH to pass the ball like the dutch duo. I personally find Sneijder has more potential to improve in this point.
Reply to anthony wallace:
well you can say that frank lampard doesnt have pace,dribbling ability and even assists.but what he has is the ability to turn matches with a single piece of magic,be it assists or scoring.van der vaart has that too.as for sneijder,he is the kind of player who can move the team and makes others look good.he might have fluctuated throughout the season but thats no reason to throw him away.the whole of barcelona's players was in bad form last season but they werent thrown away.look at them now.we need to place our trust in these players. and i dont quite think they are the same kind of players.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
i didnt mean comparing them to iniesta/xavi literally but more of their importence to the club.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
you made a good point but posession football isnt the only way to play the game.if you look at arsenal,not a single player holds the ball in long periods(except the dribblers though).and that tactics works magnificently for them.
Reply to Grande Real:
Well said, most teams including barca and manu might not stand up to the challenges madrid had to face this season. from 3 season ending injuries (delared,vanisteroy,diarra) , variuos long term injuries,totally fucked up summer signings etc...i mean if it wasnt for the fighting spirit madrid has we should have ended up 4th or 5th or even worse! Well i just hope next season we'll be a better one with less injuries please lord! I guess thats why i really dont care if snider and robben leave just to injury proned for my liking.
For the first time in many years i am looking forward towards the new season.. Thanks to Pedja and Calderon we all can see at what level Real Madrid are playing at and that there are many institutional problems to fix before we can call us the best club in the world.
I hope Pezes dont get a automatic pass to reign at the Bernabeu. We need candidates who can argue with him, push him on the soft spots, investigate every aspect of his magnificent project etc... This must be top priority in the very short run.
In the short term perspective Perez needs to do his thing in the transfer market. Finalize the signings of Ribery, Kaka, Villa and Xabi! They together with Casillas, Pepe, S.Ramos, Lass and Higuain are the core of the new era.. Now this is a fantastic project for the future. Bringing in the needed players for the core of the team must be the priority. Then install a system that everyone can find his place in and making them function as a unit! When this is accomplished, we bring the icing on the cake next year for far less then €80m..
Im so tired of the dutch colony (except for RVN) and if every one of them is to be offloaded I couldn´t care less...
Hala Madrid
Reply to Grande Real:
I wholeheartedly agree esp with the last line
. The tribulations Real Madrid went through this season is totally devastating esp for a club as impt as them so I think despite the disappointing games we can still say that we're fighting with the best we've got. Even if that 'best' is not at par with what we are used to.
I am really looking forward to a new season because I doubt we'd make the road for Barca and other teams to CL and La Liga next year as easy as pie.Serious changes are needed and I hope it would turn out for the better.
Hala Madrid!
Madrid, cabron, saluda al campeon
Madrid, cabron, saluda al campeon
Madrid, cabron, saluda al campeon
Madrid, cabron, saluda al campeon
Madrid, cabron, saluda al campeon
Madrid, cabron, saluda al campeon
Reply to barcalakerfan4life:
nice motive !!!!!!!!!!!
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
On that I agree with u 110%
Reply to Grande Real:
u are right, we are giving up now which makes barca look even better than wut they are supposed to be.
Although, i personally don't like Juande's style, he does deserve more credits than critics since his arrival had got us immediate impact. It's no need to argue with his tremendous winning streak. he is given a broken squad and still can get us a the 2nd place. this is not an easy task. Maybe it's not fair to say that he lacks of tactically change skills because he was given an unbalance squad. But wut i've seen from him so far is that he really can't come up with anything besides the typical 4-4-2. The Raul's issue even brought about more doubts but it's not wut i wanna say here.
i totally agree with wut Adam said, we should stick with him if we can't find a BETTER replacement. but i will only pick Wenger and Jose from Adam's list. i personally admire Blanc's football philosophy so much. I'd only wathced several games of Bordeaux this season. They were playig very beautiful attacking football. However, i don't know if we should take a risk to replace Juande with who seems not having as much as experience on La Liga.
Reply to Grande Real:
Thanks for posting on the blog
I haven't been active mainly because my ADSL is down (should be fixed tomorrow) and I have exams. Also surfing the net on a dialup is so frustrating -- you get the idea.
I agree with pretty much you've said, except that If we can't find someone better than Juande he has to stay. We shouldn't bring someone who is not better than him (Calderon replaced Capello with Schuster), instead of going forward, we went a step backwards.
So the bottom line is, we have to think about everything thoroughly and not make decisions just for the sake of change. I hope Perez realizes this and won't make the same mistakes he and Calderon did.
Reply to barcalakerfan4life:
It is good to see that you guys are happy after two years of frustration. Enough celebrations and think about Ronaldo's long-range strikes!
Reply to Adambader:
So u agree Robben sucks!
Bring on C.Ronaldo !
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Robben doesn't suck. He just had a bad game and so most of our players did. Every player has their ups and downs and this is normal, but bringing C.Ronaldo wouldn't hurt. I think we should have Ribery, Robben and Ronaldo and rotate them to keep them all fresh and happy.
Zidane has recommended Blanc for Real Madrid Coach job.
I see that we have 31 liga titles but don't have many Copa del Ray cups.
Barca won their 19th liga and 25th Copa Del Ray this week.
How many Copa del rays do we have? And why do we suck at it?
I hope we can beat Mallorca and Osasuna!
And is our new squad gonna play in the Peace Cup?
I am looking frwd to it!
Reply to Adambader:
What is he saying?
Where is Daniell?
Reply to flynn:
Yes, indeed!! possession football is not the only football style but i dare say most of the successful team in football history, at least more than 50% according to statistic, tends to play possession football. It's not just because it's gd to watch or sth, it's beacuse the one who dominates possession tends to have everything UNDER CONTROL and tends to hold the right to MAKE DECISION in the field. THe one who controls possession can be much more active. These are some obivous advantage about possession football.
I look more specifically up to the CL competitions. EPL teams have had the CL so dominated in recent years. THey are taking advantage on their speed and strength, which La Liga teams tend to be weaker and slower...does this mean we la liga team have to imitate their style in order to regain our reputation in Europe?? OUr biggest Rival Barcelona tells us "NO". along with the Spain national team in Euro 2008, Barcelona are proving us the fact that possession football's era is not over yet. THe KEY is WE HAVE TO DO IT WITH PERFECTION,(we have to do it in a level above the average) barca has successfully set up an example for all La Liga teams. We shouldn't forgo our UNIQUE STYLE by imitating something we AIN'T ESSENTIALLY GOOD AT. for me, the most important element to achieve this is to have the BEST PLAYER IN OUR TEAM.
Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrald are superb with their fabulous scoring rate, but for me, i prefer having a midfielder who proves more assisst than scoring. Chelsea doesn't lack of creative midfielders. I think no one doubts the ability of Deco and Joe Cole in their skill leve. ANd it's very obvious that Chelsea was very passive compared with Barca in the CL encounter without a player like the former two. Xavi, messi, and Iniesta have the midfield totally under control. ALthough they were hardly find a way to score, they were still CONTROLING THE GAME out of Chelsea.
Guus Hiddink wants Chelsea to buy young players. LOL! Take our shitty young squad dude. That would work out for all of us!
I've just read wenger's interview in which he at least doesn't deny that he is the next coach!
I thank juande alot for securing 2. place..I must admit that beating barca this season was ALMOST impossible fo la liga title..but since we fans want CHANGE I think it's best if Juande leaves, as well as many others..I believe in perez, zidane and valdano, and I really hope they have already their coach they want..indeed I care less who it is, since when Zidane says he wants that coach it must be a good one..I hope they create a team that can establish themselves in Europe, and not guys like 35 year old players a la cannavaro just to win one trophy..
this team as it is built now has no clear identity, or at least I can't see it...juande gave his best, and again, thanks..and I want to say that raul was one of the better players yesterday, and I think he will be much more roductive as a sub next season..
hala madrid
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
In the 2nd leg Chelsea had it all under control!
They were just waiting to pounce on Barca's mistakes,waiting for the prey to come to the predator!
Barca got lucky!
Chelsea and Man U are the most efficient clubs in world football.
They play like the Germans lol!
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
and i think we SHOULD keep up with RE-establish our lost possession football style, something i don't think VDV can rely on. Nth offensive for the VDV or dutch fan, but it's obvious that the dutch players in recent year are so much behind compared with those in the 90's. player like Sneijder has so much potential, but UP TO NOW, nothing is convinicible enough for me to state them in the level among the best. you could say they are already world class since this term can be so vague with different point of view.
ball control skills and speed may not be important for a playmaker. BUt the one who has brilliant footwork or the ability to beat up defenders one by one can provide the team something EXTRA.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
sometimes, we can't be too subjectively like u said i was making excuses previously. In the 2nd leg, Barca really got lucky! but have u ever thought that they could have score 3-4 goals either in 1st leg.
u seem like u are in favor of Galactico. But i just want to know if you are only in favor of those stars or the beautiful football style that we'd ever played(only the first 3 years) during the first Galactico!! for me, i always look up to football style rahter than anything. If we don't play a like a team. we can't win nth even if we got all the best players for us. nothing offensive, i admire Germany football too, but i prefer Spain's football style more!! i am a portuguese but i won't be subjective on such things. I ADMIT that my national team is NOWHERE near Spain's level even though we don't lack of stars like deco or C.Ron.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
We don't have many Copa Del Rays because thee isn't much space for them in our trophy room, so we just hand them to teams like Barca and Atletic Bilbao, their trophy rooms are not really busy
I know this is gonna piss a lot of ppl off! But can't we sell Casillas to Man City for 110 million( like it was reported) ?
Tha would raise a lot of money to buy new players. We can do with a decent GK ( Barca have Valdes). As it is, we are conceding goals left,right and center.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
I also want to see beautiful football but at the same time we have to win too ( like Barca!).I like Portugal team and their players- Ronaldo, Figo,Deco,Rui Costa,Maniche etc.
I wonder why they don't do so well?
I liked them in World Cup 2006 very much.
France played out of their skins that day!
Reply to Adambader:
Nice one! But we should look at why we fail in Copa.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
My fav team is Italy! They play brilliant counter-attacing football.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
u wanna why they don't play well?? cuz they don't simply "play like a team". Unlike Spain and Germany, we are always like an individual society since FIgo and Rui costa retired. I won't wonder seeing them got owned by some 2nd tier team like Sweden cuz they'd never played like what they ought to.
Iker Casillas G 11 Arjen Robben M
13 Codina G 14 Guti M
25 Dudek G 15 Drenthe M
2 Michel Salgado D 17 Parejo M
3 Pepe D 18 Julien Faubert M
4 Sergio Ramos D 23 Rafael Van der Vaart M
5 Fabio Cannavaro D 35 Palanca M
12 Marcelo D - Bueno F
16 Gabriel Iván Heinze D 7 Raúl F
21 Cristoph Metzelder D 9 Javier Saviola F
22 Miguel Torres D 17 Ruud Van Nistelrooy F
24 Javi García D 19 Klaas-Jan Huntelaar F
6 Lassana Diarra M 20 Higuaín F
8 Fernando Gago M - Juande Ramos C
10 Wesley Sneijder M
This is our squad! Who to keep?
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
I see u are right. They do look like individuals on the field.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Well, maybe because we always concentrate more on La Liga and the Champions Leagues.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Iker , Robben , Drenthe (Loan) , Parejo , Pepe , S.Ramos, Marcelo , Miguel Torres (Loan) , Van Nisteltooy , Hutelaar , Lass, Higuain , Gago (Loan), Sniejder , .... And Juande Ramos if we Cudnt get mourinho , wenger or hiddink
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
WTF? No offense, but are you really into football? I mean, don't you understand that we have tons of money that we could buy an EPL club? We don't need money and so we don't need to sell Casillas. And btw, Valdes is not decent, he is okay.
We are conceding goals partly due to Casillas' ups and downs and our crappy defense.
Man! C. Ron's statements are driving me nuts! Yesterday he said he LOVES Manchester!
Anti-Mijatovic why don't u ask him on the phone, what he is gonna do?
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
You are right, that's why Italy managed win the World Cup although it didn't have players like the ones Spain and Portugal had. You need to be a unit, play together and everyone SCORES. Never rely on a player or two.
Reply to Adambader:
They played with a LOT OF SPIRIT AND FIGHT AND HUNGER in that tournament. I don't like France. I enjoyed them losing!
Reply to Adambader:
Casillas and Raul remind me of the OLD ORDER. May be that's why we can't evolve as a club!
Casillas attitude has not been good lately!
Reply to Adambader:
He shouldn't have those ups and downs after so many years!
What do u ppl think of Perez's plans to start la liga games earlier, to compete with EPL?
Is that gonna help?
Personally it would help me, as I won't have to stay awake long into the night!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
I think it should stay as it is, so they don't take away each other..I can watch chelsea,manu,liverpool, barca and real madrid on one weekend, but if real plays the same time as chelsea, tv might show chelsea--omg!!
What we need is GOD !!!
Reply to Ludwig Hasbauer:
It is necessary to break EPL's stronghold !
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
May be another channel will start showing La Liga!
After all where there is DEMAND,there is always SUPPLY.
Raul: "I am happy about having played 700 games with Real Madrid" - so plz retire now. And let US be happy for a change, grandpa!
( Raul's face looks like he does drugs!)
I think Man U is gonna win the CL!
Barca's defense is porous. They let in goals so easily!
Winner by Ronaldoooooo!
Asta la vista folks!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
hasta luego*
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
there are channels which show la liga, and epl, but not both.. most of the channels that show the epl, do not show la liga.. some show serie A also
Reply to Adambader:
darknight009, for the last time, we DO NOT NEED MONEY.. selling casillas is TOTALLY out of the question.. no one will ever dare doing that.. he has showed us so much loyalty over the years, despite the embarrassment we have been going through for the past 5-6 years..
and why sell casillas? he has been madrid's only hope at times.. if it weren't for him, we would have never won 06/07. at times, he carried madrid on his back
Reply to flynn:
exactly, that's what i have been saying for a long while, even VDV's dad said that.. they both just need to improve their defensive game..
Reply to barcalakerfan4life:
why do you barca fans have to react like that? we respect you, we congratulated you.. no need for anything like that
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
madrid, cabron = a term used which could literally mean he-goat but used as a curse, welcome the champions
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Casillas's attitude? The guy plays with all his heart right till the final whistle blows. The frustration on his face is due to the absolute pile of crap playing in front of him.
Cannavaro has been poor! the best thing i have seen him do was the tackle in yesterdays match. Heinze is crap. Ramos attacks and lassana diarra doesn't cover him. Metzelder is OK when he comes in and i would keep him as a squad player. Pepe is the best line of defence casillas has had.
What i don't understand is what our midifeld is doing? They don't help the defence out and they don't provide service to the strikers either. Diarra is good but he is not unbeatable something mahmadou diarra was. Gago plays too far up the pitch. robben doesn't provide service into the box enough and he doesn't get into the box either. VDV, Sneijder and Higuain are not wingers! the best midfield player for us has to be marcelo, he helps out the defence, he gets in to the box and scores and he provides service into the box.
The players i would get rid of are:
Heinze
Salgado
Drenthe (Loan)
Robben
Gago (Loan)
Guti
VDV (Loan)
Saviola
and cannavaro and faubert are leaving anyway
Squad should be:
Casillas, Dudek, Codina
Ramos, Marcelo, Torres, Clichy, Pepe, Garay, Metzelder, Vidic
Zhrikov, Mata, Ribery, Granero, Lass, Diarra, Alonso, De la Red, Sneijder
Raul, RVN, Huntelaar, Higuain, Villa
Sad to see we lost but good to see VDV play, that's all I have to say. These players have no motivation and tbh, I admit, Juande's not helping the cause. But seriously, there are way too many uncivilized arguments going on and being an old member of this blog, that's not cool. Just for the record, i'm not posting much because i'm on vacation and i'll be posting very rarely. Please guys, chill out, it's very annoying to see new users be so disrespectful. Hala Madrid!
Just posting an interesting little story at football365 this morning. Nothing different that we haven't heard about before regarding Arsene & Real Madrid:
LINK
Take it for what it's worth gang.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Speaking of Arshavin. He would have been miles better than robben. Robben does not pass and if you look at him play its like there is an invisible wall around the box and he has to dribble around it.
Arshavin, Ribery, Silva, Mata, Ronaldo, and that argentinian from benfica. we've been linked to them all and never got them and they are all better than robben. unlike robben they understand that it is easier for their team to score if they pass to someone in a better position or if they get into the MFing box!
If VDV agrees to join Bayern then this will make Ribery price cheaper
Here is a great website to watch all the games in the footy world u just need a good internet connection and internet explorer LINK
Reply to MadridPrince:
I too am surprised why we lost interest in signing Arshavin, we could have bought him instead of VDV in the summer.
VDV was just a patch-up signing by Mijatobitch.
Juande is always making excuses. He says he didn't have the squad he wanted! Wtf! None of the players he wanted, were willing to join Madrid-Valencia, Pennant and some other EPL ass clowns.
Wtf is wrong with signing Spanish players Juande?
Are u a representative of EPL or what ?
Reply to MadridPrince:
U are right about Lass! He is OVERHYPED.
Reply to MadridPrince:
U are right about Lass! He is OVERHYPED.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
LASS IS NOT THE SAVIOUR OF MADRID as many ppl make it out to be.
Somebody tell me why we didn't sign Diego? Juve have snatched him.
Reply to Brawley7:
We don't want Arsene Wenger 4 sure!
He has got an ego= the size of the United States.
He is a tyrant and will make our poor players his slaves.
Reply to madridtrini4:
I am not Spanish so sorry! u r the luego mate!
Reply to MadridPrince:
a good replacement for VDV or sneidjer would have been aimar.. he is fast, can dribble, and also create chances.. he is just a 2 years older than ashravin...
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
i agree.. ashravin should have been brought instead of VDV.. the only problem was the only club ashravin wanted was barcelona.. so he looked for what he got..
and then, valencia to madrid? pennant? they are not half as good as robben, or ashravin, or ronaldo, VDV, and aimar.. i was wondering if something was wrong with juande.. and julien faubert?! wth.. not even a starter at WEST HAM!!!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
that's alex Ferguson who's got an ego and treats his players as if they were his slaves ,
wenger treats his players as family especially the youngsters
Reply to madridtrini4:
I havn't heard of him since he left Valencia Crook Fubal
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
*Futbal
Personally after seeing our young team fail, I think experience>youth. Just see Chelsea !
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
he is playing for benfica, and if not for him, david luiz, di maria and reyes, they would have been probably 10th.. and btw, he was unarguably valencia's best player when he was playing..
We keep talking about the kakas and the riberys but no one seems to be concerned about our defense what are we gonna do about that ?
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
you want madrid to get like chelsea? hahaha
chelsea are everything thats wrong with football
as for the wenger argument he is a great coach whose team play with great football and with him at the helm many of our youth will be given a chance
whose team play great football* i meant
LOL! Somebody watch the video of 5-0 drubbing we gave Villareal last year, on my profile page.
It will make u happy.
Reply to AndresMadrid:
I agree ..
Reply to AndresMadrid:
i agree.. be like chelsea? chelsea is killing football.. do you remember the words of jorge valdano a couple years ago? in that short statement he made, he said everything about chelsea and liverpool..
wegner will be a good choice, but i much rather blanc.. he did wonders with bordeaux.. watch a couple matches they played, you'll see
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
It has got "We are the champions" in the background.
Those were the good old days!
Reply to madridtrini4:
I was talking abt the way Chelsea is respected in Europe.
Btw Chelsea do play attacking futball from time to time. Look at their brilliant passing and movement.
As far as I know, the only thing wrong with futbal is Real Madrid CF under one Juande Ramos, who was kicked out by one Tottenham Hotspur.
madridtrini4
blanc seems like a good choice but then again schuster too seemed like one after leading getafe to europe i guess what im trying to say is that i dont think blanc is experienced enough to take the madrid hot seat he might be doing wonders with bordeaux but madrid and la liga are a whole different ball game , but i hope im wrong if we do choose to roll with him
hope he proves me wrong * i meant our team's bad performances are affecting my typing performances ......
Reply to madridtrini4:
If Chelsea is so F**** bad, why do they and not Madrid reach the CL semi-finals and final year after year?
U got an answer for that?
I am waiting.
When we gonna see the new Real Madrid 09/10 kit? Anybody know here? I wish it is purple not black, just a superstition thing! And why is f**** bwin our main sponsor?
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
i wasn't online!! geeez.. i am not like you, who is ALWAYS on the computer, just waiting, waiting for another arguement.. GET A LIFE..
back to football; so you rather madrid to play defensive football? that is NOT what madrid stand for.. they stand for winning, playing beautifully.. if madrid start playing ugly football, everyone of the former players will hate the club..
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
what's wrong with bwin?
Do you guys think perez is gonna try to get robinho back ??
there r rumours that man city r tryin to break transfer records for higuain!!!!it is estimated to be arround 40 million pounds that they will ofer to real madrid for pipita's services...now this is a bad news
man in the beginning everybody was saying , robben is so good he is truly worldclass and people even began him to compere to messi and now when robben has a little dip in form wich btw the whole squad has casillias included everybody is saying robben doesn't pass enough he can't give assist bla bla bla. how can robben give assist when almost al bals he recieves are useless balls miles away from the box.and you can not say like some people do here that arshavin would have bin better as robben cause arshavin plays in a team were atucaly the whole squad play like a good team and he has a fabregas who provides him with good balls. in the recent games robben was one of the few players who actualy tried to winn and gave there best so people who say robben should go because he is not good enough should watch games in the beginnin of 2009 cause there he showed how good he really can be.
And this is coming from somebody who kind of hated robben when he came to madrid.
Reply to madridtrini4:
Yeh but remember Juande didn't sign Faubert. Mijatovic did. Juande didn;t make any signings, this is Spain after all.
Look how many times Juande has played Faubert. Not more than once or twice I think.
Reply to madridtrini4:
I just want Madrid to play effective football. I want to see them controlling matches, limiting the opposition to very few chances and hitting them with great speed.
What I don't want to see is the opposition strolling all over us in the middle of the park - with Lassana putting out fires everywhere.
I want to see a Real madrid that can once again dominate the oppostion - whether or not they play pretty football, I don't care. I want to see a system that our players can interpret comfortably. At the moment it;s not happening.
Reply to Caracoleo:
Yeah I agree with u totally!
I want Real to dominate their opponents and control the match.
It is necessary for CL glory.
Reply to madridtrini4:
Isn't defensive football was what we played under Juande and Capello?
How come u liked them?
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
@Darknight,
I've seen you say that Lass is over-hyped. I think you've gone too far with your arguments on this blog and I'm not going to ignore this one. Lass has been very impressive. You have to remember he only came this January and adapted to the country, the club, the team and life in general from day1. Players like Gago and Robinho spent a year just trying to adapt.
Now look at his stats, and you'll see he is the most effective central-midfielder we have (his stats are better than Makelele's when he was here -- correct me If I'm wrong) and to be honest, he seems to be the most hard-working player on the pitch. He just keeps chasing and tackling the opposition and not only that he has high fitness and his assists are pretty accurate. He has also played as a right-back.
What I'm trying to say is it is early to judge Lass, but so far, he has been nothing but incredible.
Reply to Adambader:
The house cleaning can't start soon enough for me!!!!!!! I too watched the 1st half and find myself more bored than watching paint dry. Didn't Usain Bolt go and train with Real Madrid after the Olympics? Then why the heck they're on turtle pace? Geesh....did u all see el capitano? I saw him but it was not good, he looked as if he was scared of the ball and he ran slower than my grandpa. He too looked as if he has given up. He didn't even clap when Javi garcia did shit and that says alot! The commentators were right, the team is already in vacation mode, wondering what the will be doing and where to go in the offseason. If perez comes and we remain with drenthe, faubert, raul, salgado, guti, heinze and company we will not win for the next 100 tears. The only ppl who should remain is higuain, ramos, robben and huntelaar. Everyone else needs to go. yes including Lass and casillas. In casillas's mind he's indispensible and frankly he plays shit at times. sure he saves us but real need to buy another world class goalie so he will have to work harder to keep his place. As for Juande, the league is out as is everything else, if he plays Raul for the rest of the season he's surely a goner too.
Reply to realfreak:
Lol! u have some of my DNA. I agree with you abt Lass and Casillas. Casillas sometimes seems so full of himself, as if he is the prince of Madrid.
A cracker of a game going on now b/w Atletico and Valencia. Atletico own Valencia.
Reply to realfreak:
Casillas is crap? Seriously? You gotta be kidding me. Just because he allowed a few goals in this means he is crap. You have to confess that the defense sucks and so does the midfield. There is a tremendous pressure on Casillas (btw did u watch the Barcelona and Liverpool games?), as Caracello said earlier, Real have to dominate and disallow opposition from putting pressure on our defense. Even If you have Casillas and Buffon together in goal, they wouldn't handle that kind of pressure the whole game.
I think some of the criticism of Casillas IS valid. I'm not saying he's crap - that's going a little too far, but so do other people who claim he is the best in the world. He isn't, although he is a very good reflex goalkeeper. The fact is though, he is very poor in the air. And is Diego Lopez really so far behind Casillas? Not in my view. He's there or there abouts. Casillas is a pillar of the team, but I would like to see a second goalkeeper who could keep him on his toes.
As for Lassana, lets not start overhyping someone who has been with us for 5 months. No doubt he;s been excellent, but really when you compare him to the others around him that's not saying much. Lets not get ahead of ourselves and start pretending that we've found the new Patrick Vieira. We haven't. He's good hard working midfield player, but we need to still keep our feet on the ground.
The ones I would keep are:
Casillas
Ramos, Metzelder, Pepe, Marcelo (not in defence though), Lassana, Higuain, and Huntelaar. I would also reserve some bench space for Drenthe, Torres, Javi Garcia (he was messed around a lot this season, being played by Schuster in defence!!!).
The rest, I'm not fussed if they stay or leave. They have proven to be good players at best, but not excellent.
Reply to Caracoleo:
I'd add to your list Robben, Ruud, Sneijder and loan VDV, Drenthe and Gago to other teams. I'd also add the other Diarra as he is a quality defensive midfielder.
Reply to Caracoleo:
U are right, I don't know why some ppl have come to love Lass so much in just 5 months? Before he came to Madrid his stock was selling for pennys. He came here and now some ppl are telling us he is GOD as DCM.
I also agree what u said abt Casillas! He has had this form problem ever since he debuted for Real Madrid.As it is said: LOVE IS BLIND. So some RM fans ignore his mistakes.
I think he does better for Spain than 4 us!
Diego Lopez is not Casillas!
The best GK is Julio Cesar (and Peter Cech).
Today Atletico made Valencia look like yesterday's trash!
This was the same team that beat us 3-0 a week ago! It truly shows our level. We are a 2nd tier team.Frankly our current team didn't even deserve to make the CL cut. That's how BAD they are!
the peter cech of late will make victor valdez look like zoff and casillas is as good as we say he is he just on a bad run of form besides name me one keeper who wouldnt concede goals left and right if he had our swiss cheese defense in front of him , just one
So many times have I seen Casillas just look at the ball going into the net, he doesn't even attempt to save it, he just stands there and looks on. Then he curses everyone in the defense, without admitting that it was his mistake!
Julio Cesar? There have been so many Julio Cesars that I've lost track... which one is this. Obviously he's Brazilian.
Dark Knight who do you want to stay at Real Madrid? Just Sergio Ramos and Higuain? Wait, sorry, you don't even rate Higuain do you?
Reply to Adambader:
Adam i totally agree wit u on that one
darknight
had casillas moved for most of those balls you're referring to he'd be on a wheel chair right now
anyways cant for this damn season to be over
Reply to Caracoleo:
I want Pepe,Ramos,Higuain,Hunter,Sneijder(reserve),Metzelder,Casillas to stay and sell everyone else! No loaning shit!
And bring Palanca to senior side! He is better than traitor Mata!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Isn't Julio Cesar the brilliant GK of Brazil? He plays for Inter! Didn't u watch Inter vs Man U in CL? Do u live on this world?
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
* that was 4 Caracoleo
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Oh yeh, that guy. I haven't really been keeping tabs on him...
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
i dont agree with loaning people put either. Either you are good enough for a place in the squad - or you're not. Loaning is just a sign that the directors haven't got a clue.
Reply to Adambader:
uh...i said he plays shit at times...read it again. honestly, he is too comfortable....we conceded 9 goals in 2 games, sure the defence and MF sucks but if I was Juande, Dudek would be getting starts to keep him awake. I find casillas a mere shadow of what he was, his stock has gone down IMO. He as well as Guti and raul feel that since they came through the youth system and been there for long they can do shit and not be bothered with.
Reply to realfreak:
U are right abt those 3 players dude!
Reply to madridtrini4:
Aimar will be great 5 years ago when he was still the key playmaker of Valencia, he is not playing in his top form in recent years. I prefer David SIlva to him.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
hey, dude!! just go check the turn over rate of Julio Cesar in the 06-07 season when he was off form. Then come back and critisize Iker. THis is a little bit to over for blaming Iker on couple of these meaningless matches. And blame everything on him but not the SOFT backline. he was responsible for couple goals. But i would only blame him if those goals cause us getting eliminated in CL..
Some are good comments some are rubbish coz some do know their football some do not have a clue at all. lets all pray that Mr perez brings some success to madrid in the next term.personely iam wanting to be as competitive with the big four in EPL and barcelona.teams must fear real madrid teams must come to bernabeu and fear the worst.Real must at least try and reach the semis of CL and win laliga,get a spanish flavour in their team.when madrid can beat chelsea manutd arsenal liverpool and barca inter then we will be back on track.
Reply to chancat:
I hope u are not saying that I talk rubbish!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
Uh..... everyone.....I am a chick ok
don't be a sissy fan!
Reply to realfreak:
Well U don't sound like one!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
What's ur problem dude? Are U a girly man or what?
What's ur problem dude? Can't take the heat? Too bad boy!
I see u are running scared of me! I expected better from u!
How many times u say Mr. in that para! Enough of ur satire!
Bear with me 4 this month. I won't be so active from next month. It's my summer vacation, I don't have to go to college. And I cannot go outside, because it is scorching outside-40 degree Celsius. I am very sensitive to heat and cannot bear it, so now-a-days I cannot do anything else but stay at home and do net. I am sorry it's bothering u!
It's all because Real Madrid is doing shit!
If we would have been doing good, I would have felt no need to comment on this site! Ha ha!
So bear just a little longer!
RealMadridFan I see that u are pissed at me 'cuz I am a fellow Indian! U should be ashamed of it. Bad mouthing ur compatriot- isn't there anything other left 4 u? Also seeing ur profile I see u are a ladies man. Are u here for fooball or the girls chap?
HEY PPL! RealMadridFan cannot see an Indian other than him on this blog! THAT'S THE REAL REASON HE HIS PISSED, NOT ANYTHING ELSE!
YEAH KEEP BOOZING URSELF UNTIL U ARE PASSED OUT DUDE, THAT'S THE ONLY THING U HAVE LEFT TO TO!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
* LEFT TO DO!
RealMadridFan I read u r following Real Madrid from Galactico ero! Guess what, I have been following them since 97/98 ! So who is the more legitimate FAN around here? U just a late comer, dazzled by the Galacticos! U don't really know what Real Madrid truly stands for! I feel sorry for u!
Hope that shut ur big mouth for good!
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
hey, dude!! be respectful and please stop doing some stupid shit like this?? why're u always setting up fire with others?? get a life man!! everyone has to write in this blog but at least u have to respect others. It' s so fucking annoying seein' you write some pointless shit here and waste ur life like this!! please, let's discuss something related to football and real madrid. DOn't fuckin' insulting others with some disgraceful shit!!
whats with the criticism on casillas.tell me which goalkeeper wouldnt be upset that he still concedes even at his best ? which goalkeeper had to make more than 10 good saves per match and still be flawless ? i am a goalkeeper myself and i understand his dip in form.what your expecting from him is too much.he is only HUMAN.
agreed flynn if we want a GK that never concede then we should think about signing superman or someone so fat that he could take up the whole net
Darknight
my bad for taking long to accept your friend's request i just saw it now
thanx for adding me to your list
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
is De La Red coming back next season ?i really believe he is the missing piece in our midfield.he has the passing rate of alonso,a vision of pirlo and the creativeness of guti.he is just the kind of player we need right now.
Raul Albiol,David Silva,Yuri Zhirkov/Philipp Lahm,Esteban Granero,Alvaro Negredo,and Franck Ribery should be our priorities.
along with Palanca,Alberto Bueno and Chema Anton.
Kaka and Cristiano Ronaldo might be the best in their respective position but signing them would disrupt the core of the team.since were aiming for a short recovery,i dont think changing the core of the team altogether is a good idea.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
You have been banned. And you saw that coming.
come on,no need to be so childish.
I banned you because you are an asshole. You have been creating problems since the first moment you came. You want me to take step 2 now? Jackass
Maybe ignoring you or treating you like shit? I like that.
SO U DELETED THE COMMENT. LUCKY ASS U!
come on guys--we are real madrid fans..
I'm new on this chat--and I really like it--but a real madrid fan should act like a real madrid player--with class..we are adults and should talk about football..
as I've said--we are real madrid fans-so we present real madrid in a certain way..if a barca fan reads what we write, I'm ashamed..we are no hooligans, we are part of the best club of the world!
hala madrid
who do you guys actually think will be new coach next year?
I have nothing better to do. Just chilling out here
Reply to ludwig Hasbauer:
hopefully Laurent Blanc.however Arsene Wenger looks to be interested.
Reply to flynn:
exactly, Peter Cech and buffon also have turnover sometimes. It's extremely stupid to doubt Iker's goal keeping ability. we could have be insulted more severely without him this season. He saved us enormous time.
Reply to flynn:
i agree with u, i like his style so much at the year he played for Getafe. But i kinda worry his health problem. Just hope that he is fine and carries on to serve in real madrid. Parejo is another hope too.
Reply to flynn:
i won't oppose to sign either Kaka or Ronaldo as long as their arrivals won't disrupt the core like wut u said. I agree to put some players like Ribery, Lahm, Silva and Albiol the priorities but i would like to put VIlla in the list too. And i will glad to see if a superstar like C.ROn or Kaka is coming.
since our current structure is so messy now. getting some quality new comers are needed and we have to establish our CORE as soon as possible. It will depend on the coach so much. Honestly, i have no idea whom we should get since the GOOD managers available are extremely hard to find. my priortiy is Benitez. But it's nearly impossible due to his new contract with Liverpool.....Good luck real madrid.
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
I have the new kit, the color is gone, the black strips are still there, but there is a nasty yellow trim on it, bwin is still the sponsor. it is not a good kit, but I have to wear it since I wear anything with the madrid badge on it.
Reply to realmadrid_a10:
Care to post a photo?
Reply to nithalbader:
LINK
This is the kit, but on the left there was the idea of having madrid's old badge but that idea has been changed and it will just remain blank (like the one i have) and there will be a spanish flag there for the UCL.
Reply to realmadrid_a10:
Thanks for the link. Appreciated
Gentleman we have Kaka, Ribery and Wenger!!!!!!
Reply to Senad:
Yes, Gulliem Balague, the Spanish football expert confirms Valdano was in France for Ribery and Wenger. Hope this is true
Reply to realmadrid_cf:
i lost track at the amount of bullsh*t you wrote waiting for someone to reply to you.. there is something called going OFFLINE, ok.. then there's something called HAVING A LIFE.. you should try both..
Reply to Adambader:
there's also an article on goal.com
Reply to madridtrini4:
LINK
the new chelsea kit is cool , the one they played with last night
Reply to a real fan of football:
I have always said the same about robben. from the beginning of the season and all throughout. even when he had those 3-4 amazing matches in a row for us (start of 2009) i was saying that when it comes to the big teams we can't rely on robben. he scored in the matches for us but there were countless opportunities where higuain/raul/huntelaar made superb runs but robben didn't put them through on goal.
And i have been watching robben from his chelsea days so 5 years is a pretty good time to judge the player.
However, i think robben would have played a little btter had he had better players around him. madrid and chelsea both relied on robben too much. if he had someone like robinho/ronaldo/ribery playing on the other wing robben would get more space to play in and cause opposition alot of trouble
Reply to Senad:
No we don't. we don't even have florentino yet. Its bad to count our chickens before they've hatched but people are counting the chickens even before the hen as layed any eggs.
Wenger said that he always honours his contract (which expires in 2010) and wenger is a man of his principles so i'm not sure if he will leave just yet.
If we do get wenger, then Cesc is likely to follow too. Right now the only team capable of outclassing barcelona is arsenal so imagine arsenal's football with world class signings which COULD include kaka/ribery/ronaldo/cesc/villa. This team could be greater than cruijff's (as a player) barcelona
Reply to Adambader:
I wonder why real madrid always get the worst adidas shirts why can't we get designs like:
LINK
OR
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OR even this design which i don't think is real:
LINK
Also, why can't we get a good colour for our third kit? or why can't our first kit be like the old spain white kit with red and yellow lines. the new home kit only looks bad because of the colour. look at liverpools away kit in the same style:
LINK
we should really hang on to Juande if we didnt manage to get Mourinho or Wenger ..
what do you guys think of Roberto Mancini , will he be a good choice for us next year ??
Reply to MadridPrince:
here is the leaked pics of the new Madrid kit LINK i really like the black one but it is mainly only used during the champions league matches. Ribery and C. ronaldo would look great in it haha just saying.
the purple one rocks !!
thanks for the link alex
Reply to MadridPrince:
Oh come on. It is a public secret, and we all know that Florentino will win, and we all know tat kaka and ribery are coming. Live up ppl, we need some faith for god sake! HALA MADRID
Reply to Senad:
After the whole Kaka saga in 07 and Ronaldo saga in 08, i wait until official confirmation
Reply to MadridPrince:
ok, but trust me have them in the bag. I hope that with perez it is time for new era in Real Madrid history, the great one i hope!
Wow. I have really been out of it. I'm glad I have been busy and missed Darknight making a mockery of himself. Anyway, Barca are Champions and with any luck they will beat Man U. I dont want to see Man U win it. After this defeat at the hands of Villareal we can focus on reconstruction. All in all we have not had a bad year. We managed 2nd after starting off bad, sacking a coach, having a president resign due to fraud, hiring an interim coach, and dealing with an incompetent Director of Football. Now we have the elections coming and from the looks of it Perez is the primary candidate. As for the players We have leaked goals this past few games because we are missing or best defender in Pepe. No wonder Casillas is a bit nervy considering that he essentially is playing with no central defenders. Ramos has made some great errors in his choices of substitutions. I still don't get why Raul and Heinze are still playing. I dont know what players Perez will keep but I pray we don't get C. Ronaldo and I hope we dont spend more than 25 mil on a player this summer. As for our new Coach I would like to see Wenger or Blanc. They could shake things up and Wenger would not be afraid of doing his own thing and not be concerned with what the board says like he does at Arsenal. We will have to see but we should stop pointing fingers at players for not doing something or not playing well because it does not do any good all we can do is discuss what can be done to improve the team and right now defense is the key. Sure we can play attractive football like Arsenal but if you dont have a good defense you will loose 4-0 or 4-1 just like Arsenal have done and Real have done recently. Some of our fans tend to overlook this basic rule of football and it is really infuriating when you hear sack the coach and sell players. Its not their fault the club wants big name players and not the right player for the right position.
Reply to kid_rock:
ROberto Mancini WOULDN't be a good choice for us. i don't see any visible sign indicates that he had anything to do with La Liga throughout his career. I don't think he will be good enough to replace Juande who at least has great experience on coaching La Liga teams. The SeriA football style is totally different with ours. I ain't saying that he MUST not be good but who will wanna take a risk to use him?? Wenger's case is different. The french's coaching ability has already earned his recognition not just in EPL, but around the world.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Villa wasnt in the list mainly because of his age factor.he might be in his peak but he is already close to 30.so,i thought it would be better to give Alavaro Negredo a chance.he is young and looks to be a quality player.*give the cantera a chance.
furthermore,the arrival of Villa would mean benching Huntelaar or Higuain and Raul.i know Huntelaar have been under huge critism lately but we really need a player like him,who could easily score 20 goals per season.next season he will have a better squad around him and that is when he is going to show his true best.
if bringing Villa means a bench warm for Raul then i say " come on over David villa!!!!!!!"
Villa could start with either Higuain or Huntelaar it would be splendid!
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
yeah and i just hope a "deja vu" doesn't happen.we have already lost Jose Jurado,David Moreno,Callejon twins and Juan Mata thanks to some "great" management skills.the last thing i want to see is another youth product becoming a star for another team while we can only look on.
of course, defense is a big concern!!i feel bad about none of those rumors go around any considerable defender like Lahm. one more central back is needed too. i used to be a defender when i was still a plyaer. and defense is always my priority to build up a team with PERFECTION. more importantly, we have to know how to maintain the balance.
helmet
im 100 percent with you buddy i too dont wanna see CR in a madrid jersey i know i will get killed for saying this but i think that he is overrated i know he won the ballon d'or and all but he tends to disappear in crunch games he hardly shines when his team isnt KAKA and ribery on the other hand MAKE their team shine
as for our defense i heard we were going for zapata ( i rate him highly ) and bruno alves AKA mister assist to rooney lol nah j/k he is a good defender too the only problem with him will be that porto will probably ask for 30 mil or so for him they NEVER let their players go cheaply
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
the good thing is we've got Garay coming next season although he wasnt in top form this season but hopefully he'll show his true colors in madrid . but we also need another defender .
i think metzelder did well this season but maybe he leaves this summer . pepe defiantly is staying but we need someone in his standards to help us , metzelder might be quite slow . someone like carvalho will do but younger of course .
Reply to flynn:
yes, indeed!! he is already in his peak and i don't think he can go further than this. HOwever, what i think the most important thing for us is to bring in someone who can give us some IMMEDIATE IMPACT. i dare say VIlla will be the most promising one. i look Higuain as our next Raul but i think no one will doubt that David Villa is one of the top 5 strikers in the world. He will be like another Luis Figo who came in his peak period and gave us tremenous improvement in a short period of time. We'd alreay had enough POTENTIAL PLAYERS. if we keep giving excuses like who will be bench bla bla bla, we ain't gonna get THE BEST outcome. Higuain has tremendous improvement this season and turns out to be my favorite player. however, his performance in CL and in certain away games were still not convincible enough for us to basically just rely him on the front line. We need some one who is ALREADY a world class to lead us to compete with all the top teams in Euro. and i don't see there is conflict bw huntelaar and villa since they are totalyy different types of strikers. REal madrid deserves to have all the best players. It's extremely important for a champions team to have different types of players in the squad. NOt just to have a great 11 starters. no one could tell how well huntelaar can play next season. It's still early to judge his ability right now. but my point is, if u really want me to compare, i put Villa ahead everyone. He is simply one of the best strikers in the world. his aggresiveness is sth we need in the front line. Raul has this sense but his year is already over like his status in the national team. Higuain is very aggressive all the time. But he still needs to develop to the top rank.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
i mean that all i care is WHO HAS THE GREATEST POSSIBILITY TO GIVE US THE MOST IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. economically, it's wut so called opportunity cost. We wanna get sth better, we gotta sacrifise sth. for me, Higuain and Villa are the ideal pair in the front line.
what about a new left back ? i think that we desperatly need one doesnt matter if he comes from the cantera or another club but getting one is a MUST
Our defence is better than barcelona's. cannavaro better than puyol, pepe better than pique, defensively ramos is better than alves and well i can't say anyhting about our left back, the mysterious figure. Mahamadou diarra better than Toure. the reason why barca don't concede is because they keep possession.
Also look at liverpool's defense, they had a poor defence when they won the Champions League but the whol team defends so they don't concede. With real madrid there is a focus on attack too much that is why defensive coaches aren't able to do their best. we need wenger to play possession football and a few more good defenders like clichy, sakho etc
with cesc as our xavi, kaka as our iniesta, ronaldo as our messi, ribery as our henry and higuain as our striker, AND wenger as our coach we can outclass barca next season
We all can dream for all the great names mention joining Madrid but until we have a stable management whoever the President is, the dream of all the fan will only be dreams. i hope that RM can be the team who they were once feared. if we still have the same management as Claderon's one, then we will still discussing the same thing next season.
it's a great chance to sign a such a great striker with a price below average because of Valencia's Financial crisis. I just heard he is in Florentino's plan too. But same saying mate, rumors are rumors, i won't take it so seriously until i see any offical announcement from the club. i woul also want to see his partner David SIlva with the white jersey too. i think it will be insane to see Raul starting every game if we have villa higuain in the bench.....!!
Reply to kid_rock:
yup, garray will be a great one but i think it's better to concern our leftback position first, and i need we will need another CB if Metzelder is leaving like wut u said. Pepe and S.Ramos are almost perfect and they will be still irreplacible in the backline.
Reply to AndresMadrid:
absolutely
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Figo only came because Madrid were short on midfielders both in quantity and quality at that time.but its safe to say that we already have a good forward line.what we lack is quality in midfield,in attacking aspect.and once we have that resolved,only then we will see our strikers finding the net more often.
As for Higuain,we have Huntelaar/Negredo/van Nilsterooy to compensate his weakness.furthermore,Higuain can only improve next season.
and i think that Villa and Higuain is similar in many ways.they both needs to hold on to the ball to shine whereas players like Huntelaar shines through scoring with limited touches on the ball.i admit that Huntelaar has his weakness in the sense that he needs good players around him for him to shine but with the good signings we can expect for next season,that problem is as good as gone.
Reply to MadridPrince:
mate, u seem kinda biased on our defence. u can't just compare our backline with barca's and saying who is better or who is better. this is nonsense for me. Cannavaro is not the Cannavaro he used to be anymore and i don't think he is better than Puyol who is still in his peak(although i hate Puyol so much); look at the play Rossi made against Cannavaro last game in 22nd minute, it shows that Cannavaro cannot react as quick as he used to be when he was in peak. I agree that Pepe is somewhat greater than Pique in terms of quality. But if u look at the statistic, u will find Pepe's stats is not even better than Pique's. so it's too subjective to say Pepe is BETTER or sth cuz it's not convincible for those who are not RM fans. S.Ramos might be better than D.Alvez defensively, but once again, according to stats, S.Ramos has a even greater turnover rate than the Brazilian left back who controls the attacking timing so decently. of course, i think Pepe and S.Ramos will be the backbone of our backline in the futre. and it makes no sense to me that beacuse we focus on attack so the defensive coach aren't able to do their best. our failure is basically due to we can't maintain the balance bw attack and defense and our backline is having such a huge gap in the left. one thing is no need to argue: 'WE SUCK AT DEFENDING SET PIECE'. This one is fatal, none of our recent coaches can solve this problem yet.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Philipp Lahm is the best.both offensively and defensively.
I totally agree with anti mijatovic on david villa we definately need a great striker like him he is only 27 and if he can play for three seasons by then we would have gotten another replacement.Real needs David villa inplace of raul honestlly if we need to compete effectively then bring on villa, ribery, alonso,zapata,
Reply to flynn:
agree, the messy midfielder is sth we need to concern first, for me, signing a great striker like Villa will be a bonus, i won't oppose for that cuz for me, David Villa is simply the best. For Huntelaar, he is a very productive striker. But he needs to be more aggressive. for me, i prefer RVN type of box scorer rather than Huntelaar cuz RVN can always give us the EXTRA other than scoring goals. No doubt, scoring goals is the essential need for a striker and other than that seems not important, but at a defender stand point , i 'rather face a guy like RVN than Hunt cuz the former will never stop battling for the ball and keep putting pressure on the oppenent's backline. RVN can always drop back and help on keeping possession, this is sth important for a box scorer. Huntelaar is great, he can score goal with only one touch and he always can appear in the right spot at the right time. But he is way too depending on the pple around him. For RVN, Villa, or even Higuain can always create space for themselves even when lacking supplies, Huntelaar just needs to be more fierce and more aggressive.
Regarding to wut u said about Higuain and VIlla, i somewhat agree. But i just wanna express wut i tryna say previously, David Villa is the type of guy whom we CAN RELY ON in the big stage. I don't see the conflict with them being putting together cuz i personally think both of them have the ability to get used to any partner anytime. And who will mind to have VIlla, Higuain, Huntelaar in our squad while we have to compete in both La Liga and CL. for me, Raul is something we don't necessarily need. But i would like to see him and Negredo in the bench as big sub. Someone must be pissed seeing i said benchin' Negredo. But i think he still needs time. Cuz we gotta have at least 3 considerable strikers for us being rotated in big stages. Someone is more promising. i guess none of u will doubt VIlla's scoring ability. He deserves to earn a place inany single team's starting lineup
Reply to flynn:
100% agree!! i dream about this german all the time. He is nearly perfect. how great would it be if we can get the best two sidebacks with us.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
i mean as a defender, i'd rather face a guy like Huntelaar than RVN!!!
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
I have to disagree with you Anti, Huntelaar is more mobile and actually traces back and looks for the ball. That is quite rare is a all in out striker. I also think he is more skill in terms of beating off defenders. I dont get why we need David Villa. We have Huntelaar, Ruud and Higuain. I would like to see Tevez he is younger that Villa and plays his heart out and looks for the ball. Also I heard that we may bid for Wigan winger Antonio Valencia. I think he would be a great buy and would come relatively cheap. I have seen him play for Wigan and for the Ecuador National team. He is young and talented.
Here is the link
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Reply to helmet_09:
what the press forgets is: real madrid can't actually make any bid..only the potential presidents can negotiate sth., but if the ONE who may have negotiated for valencia isn't voted..you see what I mean..
Have you seen the actual interview with Wenger about the Florentino project?
here is the link
LINK
The show is in French but even I who dont understand a French word understood the context. But the most important part is the actual questions about the Florentino project! Watch the show,(the short Q&A starts at about 4 mins)and just look at his eyes, smile and composure when he is being asked about Perez and his project.. Now can someone tell me Wenger is not interested in "the project"???
As they say, it aint over until the fat lady sings but as a close friend to Wenger also said, a move to the Bernabeu have never been closer..
Hala Madrid
The news from skysports guillem ballague is Perez wants david villa,ribery,alonso,kaka, wenger is not coming,so is cr7 i think thats fine and on the 28th May perez will parade valdano and zinedane zizou and announce a few names i think everything looks good and we really need villa, ribery,kaka, may be zapata and lahm. so guys who is going to the new coach that leaves mourinho and pellegrin to come otherwise we are left with no option but to keep Juande who likes raul so much and canaot substitute him i think he has to go
Reply to helmet_09:
mate, i think u kinda miss out my point, i totally understand that Huntelaar is mobile and is willing trace back for ball most of the time. Wut i was tryna say is that " he is such a GENTELMAN for me!! he needs to be more AGGRESSIVE like the young RVN. I don't think he is the only one who is willing to drop back in our squad. Raul, Higuain and RVN are doing this all the time. especially Higuain. i think it might sound weird to say this. BUt i will suggest a striker to COMMIT MORE FOULS in front. if u look at Luis Fabiano, Luca Toni, and David Villa. You might know wut im saying. These strikers can give their oppenents the EXTRA pressure whenever dispossessing. This is sth i don't see from Huntelaar yet.(Not at the former names level). That's sth EXTRA a striker can provide to their teamates besides scoring goal. in my mind, a box striker is ALSO responsible to cover up others with their size. if Huntelaar can develop this skill, he can be the best in the world.
about whether we should sign David Villa, I think i'd pretty much stated it out my perspective in the conversation with flynn. the main reason that u guys oppose to get villa is because we have enough strikers in our squad already. BUt honestly, i personally will take out RVN from the list due to his age. SO is Raul, he is the ICON but definitely a guy we SHOULD RELY ON in our future plan. Basically, my ideal list for strikers only consists of VIlla, Huntelaar, and Higuain. Carlos Tevez is a good choice too but I don't think he is greater than any strikers in our squad except for Raul and the off form Saviola. he is currently benched in Man Utd, why would we need a Man UTd bench player if we wanna compete with them in CL. the acquest of Villa has different meaning, for me, he is the best in the world.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
I don't think im biased in this one. Honestly, i can tell u my idol is our captain Raul. BUt objectively, i think he appearss to be an obstacle for the team's reform if we keep providing that much minutes.
Furthermore, I don't think we SHOULD sign a guy like Valencia. We concerned on him cuz it was so urgent for us to search a winger during winter. But right now, I think we deserve some much better options. I m tired of seeing some 2nd tier players coming in. even though they are cheap, but we care. just simply ask urself a question: who si better between this wagon winger and Juan Mata, a super rising star who was produced by our own youth system. in my opinion, we NEED to get a few of the BEST OUT OF THE BEST, plus some young power like Palanca and Garanero. No need to screwing around some dude who doesn't even have any convincible performance in big stage. for wingers, i don't think anyone we should chase besides RIbery, David Silva, and C.ronaldo. Cuz if we really have to sell Robben, we deserve to have someone who is at least at robben 's level coming in as replacement.im so tired of seeing some guy like Drenthe......IF WE WANNA BE THE BEST, WE HAVE TO BE THE BST. these couple years' failure is enough for me, i don't know about u guys, but i just get afford to be PATIENT anymore.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
i know Valencia can be cheap compared with other top players. But just simply ask urself anther question b4 considering a guy who is playing in an average 2nd tier team-------"CAN VALENCIA EARN A PLACE IN THE STARTING LINEUP IN ManU, Liverpool, Chealsea,Arsenal and Barca??? if the answer is NO, why would we wanna sign him if we wanna COMPETE with those teams?? if we wanna surpass them, we need to at least have players at their level. This is just some BASIC thing we gotta have if we really wanna become a Giant in Europe once again. LIke we used to be.
it's not that urgent for us to sign new strikers. OUr priority will always have to be in the midfield. However, even Bracelona, the strongest side in La Liga( could be in Europe) would not shut the door to a great striker like David Villa, It's ridiculous to see us real madrid, which is boardly looked as a 2nd tier team in Europe(feeling sorry to say this), does so.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
i apologize that sometimes i typed too fast and made a lot of errors. I was tryin' to say that RAUL SHOULD NOT BE IN OUR FUTURE PLAN. and i also wanna make some attachment. We don't oppose to sign a 31 year old RVN two years ago. Why should we shut the door to the 28 year old Villa who's still in his peak. At that time, we were playing 4-3-3 and one place in the front line was for Robinho, the winger. Ronaldo(although he was off form already) Baptista, and Raul. and right now, we have Raul(someone we can even take out from the list), Higuain( a superb rising star who still needs more experience in big stages), and Huntelaar(who relies on support so much and somewhat lacks of consistency " up to now" ), and Negredo???( someone for whom everything is uncertain yet). I don't see signing a top striker like VIlla will get our frontline overwhelmed, at least i will look VIlla, Higuain, and Huntelaar solely as our MAIN CHARACTER in the frontline.
Besides, thx for the Link Helmet, it's nice to disguss with u. nothing offensive, those are just my personal opinions.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
No worries. I do see your point. I would welcome David Villa but personally i think we sould focus on strengthening other areas like our defense. I really dont see anyone else besides Bruno Alves as a potential buy. We do get Garay back but we need another central defender. Too bad Agger was given a contract extension at Liverpool. I think he could have beena good buy.
Reply to helmet_09:
yeah man, Daniel Agger's mobility can give something we are lacking in our backline. Bruno Alves will be a very good one but i don't we can get him for less than 20 milz. recently, i started to put my head on Albiol, someone i wouldn't even be paying any attention b4. He might not be as great as Bruno Alves in terms of "individual" ability. But i think we shouldn't miss such a great chance to ROB valencia due to their financial problem. haha, honestly, i wouldn't even have thought about Villa or Silva if they don't have such a problem cuz we would be the one who got ROB by enormous amount of transferring fee. another thing i look up to Villa is that i would expect the same amount of IMMEDIATE impact he could give us as RVN did at 06/07 season.
since cannavaro has officially signed with juventus , why dont we sign Materazzi ??
SO WE COULD KICK HIS *** FOR WHAT HE DID 2 ZIZOU
I guess we should be thinking who we want to coach us next season. whoever he is, i say let him choose his own players or given a say who RM should buy. if not then we gonna hav another bad campaign as matajobitch has done to our team.
300 % agree with wut u said. A solid backline has to play as a UNIT, like wut u said, we gotta know how to "coordinate our positions". This is extremely important and it's something i don't see from our backline. The communication between each defender is extremely importatn too. Only having 4 world class defenders wouldn't promise us a solid backline if they don't play like a unit. i am glad there are so many real madrid fans here are concerning on our defense. both S.Ramos and Pepe always have the ability the give us extra with their superb qualities, however, they sort of looked like they lack of "DECIPLINE" and rely on their individual ability too much. Especially, S.Ramos, who always makes some unnecessary mistakes while overestimating himself. LIke wut i 'd say in the previous comments. A great defender does NOT necessary to rely on his SPEED to much on defense, more importantly, he has to have a sense of positioning and to have great antipating skills.