Would it be a huge mistake If we let Cannavaro and Van der vaart go?
Tuesday, 31 March 09, 08:54 AM · Comments (73)
This question has been in my mind for a couple of days now. Everything in the press at the moment is around those two players and I am really annoyed because most of the reports are false. Both of our players have denied any rumors linking them with another club and both of them intend to stay.
Let's first talk about Cannavaro. He came in the 2006/07 season just straight after he won the World Cup with Italy. Capello brought him and I thought and still think it was a good decision. Not only has Cannavaro added experience, solidity and strength to our defense but also spirit. He possesses exceptional anticipation and technical skills. He is undeniably one of if not the greatest defender who has ever practiced professional football.
However, as with all footballers, Cannavaro has his ups and downs. His first season with Real was good, and I believe he was one of the factors that contributed to our win of La Liga, but in his second season, his from dropped a little bit. That could be due to other outside factors, but I won't deny that he was under-performing yet he won the Ballon D'or and FIFA World Player of the year.
This season, Cannavaro has been performing considerably well. Granted that his performance isn't the same as the one he gave in the World Cup, still he is one of the reasons our defense doesn't suck. Now, If we are going to let him go, and I know at some point we will (he is 35), we'll be up to a challenge. The challenge is finding a replacement. And by a replacement, I mean, finding another Cannavaro. Yes, there is his brother, Paolo, but excuse me, he isn't Cannavaro.
This might seem like a mission impossible and to some extent it is, but I believe If we don't start looking from now, we will be in trouble. Now to those who believe that Cannavaro wants to leave, I can assure you that he won't at least not before the World Cup in South Africa. I neither know him personally nor his agent, but I can assure you he is staying (unless Perez gets elected and acts like a dump jackass and show Cannavaro the door).
He is staying because:
- He knows Real need him very much.
- He knows he wants to play in another World Cup.
- He knows he still could win the trophy he hasn't won yet, the Champions League.
- He knows it doesn't hurt to play for the world's most successful club and earn millions of euros per year.
Now I know what you are thinking. "Adam, but AC Milan for example can provide him with all of these things!" I know, but do you think that Real will let him go to Milan or whatever club easily? I know that his contract expires and the end of the season and he will then be a free agent, but If whoever in charge at Real has common sense, Cannavaro should be tied up with a new contract before the end of the season, because of number 1 -- Real haven't yet found a replacement.
Now as for Van der vaart, there is a big chance that he goes. He hasn't yet managed to find a place in the starting eleven and for any player that is really frustrating. The Chelsea rumors are unlikely to be true, but If things continue as they are, he'll go to whatever club. He is not a reject and I'm sure that in the summer, he'll get a lot of offers.
However, I hope his situation improves. It only takes a bit of patience from his side and Juande's. The coach needs to give him more chances, because footballers need to play in order to improve. I don't know if this will happen or not, but I sure hope that Van der vaart regains his form and stays with us.
Hala Madrid!
Like this blog? Help spread the word: 
-
Bond said:Thank you Adam for this wonderful blog. Merry Christmas to you and all the madr...
On Merry Christmas & Happy New Year To All RealmadridTalkers!
Madridfan_India said:Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
On Merry Christmas & Happy New Year To All RealmadridTalkers!
DynastyofRealMadrid said:mate, it's funny that u dare ask other whether they play football in real life ...
glayzer said:To be honest Drenthe and Raul can't be compared. Drenthe may be fast but he has...
73 Madridistas have commented on "Would it be a huge mistake If we let Cannavaro and Van der vaart go?" · Add yours
Canna is too old to remain a starter but he should stay in the squad to be back-up and tutor Pepe and Garay but that's against his own interests if he wishes to play in South Africa. On the VDV thing, you said it all. He needs a chance. Hala Madrid!
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
I know he is getting old, but I don't think we can demote him to the bench and justify it. I mean, we'd need a hell of a defender to replace him. Maybe Sandros?
Reply to Adambader:
Sanderos? lol,you must be kidding he is awful just like Wenger said,but i want Cannavaro to stay he \could be useful when needed i think we already have his replacement thats Garay,about VDV i dont think he'll stay he will leave in the summer alongside Sneijder
Reply to Adambader:
It seems impossible to find a perfect replacement for the former best defender of the world unless we have to spend another huge amount of money. I personally think putting Sergio Ramos in the middle is not a bad idea if we can get Maicon. Cannavaro needs to sacrifice some minutes if he wants to stay. It's impossible to let a 36 yr old guy to play every single game for a big club and this can possibly affect his 2010 worldcup opportunity.
How about bringing back Garay....and then we'd rotate like this...
Torres---Ramos----Pepe---Marcelo
OR
Ramos---Canavaro---Pepe---Marcelo
OR
Ramos---Garay---Pepe---Marcelo
We already have many options...why do we need new players?
OFFICAIL:I've Just read that Real Madrid have officially signed Fabregas for 80m and Gago and Sneijder going in the other direction
...
...
...
...
Happy April fool's day
Cannavaro is old. He is still peforming at a good level but for how much longer? It would be wrong to offer him another 3 years for example. We need to look around for a replacement.
Van Der Vaart is a different case. He started off the season on fire, then his form dipped when Sneijder returned. I like Van Der Vaart, but maybe he needs to accept being rotated as I do not think he is an essential piece in the team.
Juande has shown the capacity to change his mind about players when he has got it wrong. Look at Huntelaar, out of favour in the beginning and now one of the first names on the team list.
What I think is more shocking is the way some of the members of Castilla have been treated by Juande, especially Bueno and Palanca. Both of these show a lot of promise, but have yet to feature under Juande. Can it be that Schuster backs the youth teams more than Juande?
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
he is older but not old enough to stop playing at top level... he is a great defender and we shouldn't get rid of his services...
he is in great shape and he can still offer great football for Real...
A lot of names being suggested, anybody remember Chiellini? If we can get Maicon then IMO Chiellini can be bought and he IS the best centre-back in the world. Vidic is over-hyped, he's great but not as good as Chiellini. Hala Madrid!
Reply to Daniel:
why do you all keep putting Ramos in the middle of defense when we have bought Garay who is supposed to be a great defender...?
there are talks that we are interested in bringing Maicon, why not than push Ramos in the right midfield position...?? He is very good in defending, he has pace, he knows how to dribble and he is often participating in the offense so maybe he could get used to that position...??
this is just my idea but why not try, maybe it turns out to be good one...
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Vidic is good but he still needs to develop.... Torres made him a full a few weeks ago...
Canavaro wouldn't do these sort of mistakes..!!
as for VDV i would like him to go back to Germany where he will certainly play... he is a good player but he is not getting a chance here and he can lose a lot this way... he is sitting on the bench at his national team right now...
we could exchange him for Diego from werder, Diego could adopt to spanish type of football and maybe be a starter and VDv has proven himself in Germany and could easily replace Diego in Werder...
or he can be a part of a deal involving buying Kaka...
Reply to Rireal:
i believe Ramos could have the ability to play at the right midfield but this is totally out of reason for us to forgo his world class defending skillz. AC Milan tryna use enormous amount to bid him cuz they look him as Maldini's successor, even Maldini says so. S.Ramos is a precious asset for our backline. Maybe he can do it with the 3-4-3 formation. Signing Maicon is not an unwise plan since I dun see the conflict bw him and S.Ramos.
Here I wanna share some thought with all the madrid fans with my ideal formation(feel free to give comments or to critisize):
Casillas
Ramos-------Pepe------Cannovaro(Chiellini)
Maicon-----Lass-----Xabi(Sneijder/Cesc)---Marcelo
Robben--Huntelaar(VanGol)--Kaka(C.Ron)
3-4-3 is not a bad formation if possibly keeping the balance in the midfield. two side wing back can drop back while defending while the two wingers can strenth to the flanks.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
We also have another great defender jet to come and prove himself and that's Garay... so why put Ramos in the center when he is fantastic on the sideline... Garay and Canavaro are great on a centerback position... and if we get Chiellini we have another one..
Ramos for me is best to use on the sideline as right back or right midfielder, and with Maicon on the right side also would be a good partnership between those two...
Why 3-4-3... these way you are weakening defense...
if maicon arrives then ramos would surely play in center of defence.... i have to say that vdv will most prolly leave by end of the season...
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
To Rireal:
I only suggested he plays as a centre back once every 3 games...I'm the first one to say Ramos plays best as a right winger...but guys don't forget...he needs to rest sometimes too...you know what happened earlier this year
To Anti-ijatovic:
Usually I don't like the 3-4-3 formation since it is too offensive...but yours if very good since the two wingers are defensive.On the other hand I find two problems...1st is how realistic it is for ANY Real Madrid manager to dare to play 3-4-3 and 2nd is that there seems to be a very big gap between the attackers and defensive midfielders...that is the impression I'm getting...I don't know
i really hope that somehow, BOTH sneijder and VDV get to play together.. somewhat like a 4-1-3-2.. our defense, then lass, higuain in the center, VDV and sniejder beside him, not playing on the wings, more of central attacking midfielders.. and benzema or hunterlaar unfront.. i think madrid needs benzema, he is the perfect replacement for ronaldo(the legend,el fenomeno) all we got was a box player in hunterlaar.. words can't describe what ronaldo did..but the only player who could try and almost reach his level, is benzema..
Reply to Daniel:
Thankyou so much for the advise Daniel, u get my purpose for putting two Brazilian sidebacks on the flank and i agree that seldom coaches dare use this formation. This is just some ideal thing. But the gap bw attackers and defensive midfielders can be perfectly filledup if the coach do work on it. Scolari gave us the best example on using 3-4-3 formation in worldcup 2002 in which the brazilians did perfectly on the transition bw defense and offense, and that impressed me so much. anyway, if we determine to use 4-4-2, i don't suggest to bring in Maicon, just keep Sergio in the right.
Reply to Rireal:
Chiellini is the perfect replacement if we get rid of Heinze. He can play two positions and Marcelo is still weak on the left under the 4-4-2 formation. Thanks for the comment on the ideal 3-4-3 formation. But i would like to tell you that this formation wouldn't weaken the defense while it can automatically be transformed to 5-4-1 formation. Sergio Ramos is the best sideback in Europe and i personally prefer him to Maicon. However, Maicon is now the best one in the world, he is more consistent and u can't even find one soft turnover of him in most of the games. I believe Ramos can exceed Maicon's level after seveal years but i believe maicon is worldwide recognized more. anyway, nth offensive. im just giving some objective opinions and i suggest not to sign maicon if we wanna maintain it with 4-4-2 cuz we don't have a zanite to cover up.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
I think Cannavaro will be more likely transformed to be a bench player if he stays. i don't doubt garay's talent but there is not conflict bw putting Garay and signing Chiellini since we have to play both CL and La Liga. In my opinion, let's just keep it with Ramos, Pepe, Garay(Canna), Chiellini(marcelo) in 4-4-2 and forget about maicon. and im not sure if u mean putting Maicon as a right back right Sergio Ramos in front of him in the midfield......that's too awkward and i don't see the point of doing this. Sergio is more defensive oriented and maicon is more offensive oriented. I would switch them up but this is unwise.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
that is a good back line with Ramos, Pepe, Garay and chiellini...
but what i ment was if we don't or fail to bring another winger like our Mijatovic did this year then buy Maicon and put Ramos as a right midfielder in a 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2 formation... he will bring stability to the midfield because he is great in defending and also can be a danger to rival's defenses...
these are my thoughts if we fail to bring a quality winger like Silva, Ribery or Ronaldo...
but it wouldn't be bad to bring two of these players that i have mentioned because Ronaldo and Robben can play as an out to out striker...
in this case we can have two great wingers and one fast and skillful out to out striker...
Keep Canavaro and sell VDV because i don't see him getting much playing time...
well, these are my thoughts...
I thought;after buying Maicon i dont think we need to make Sergio Ramos play as a CB we sell Heinze then Ramos will play in his normal position and Maicon will play in Heinze's while Marcelo will play as a left winger so i think we dont need a 'WORLD CLASS' winger we should work on Marcelo and Castilla players.
Hala Madrid
Ramos can play as defensive midfielder but not necessarily to be in the right. If we must bring maicon, why don't we just put maicon in front of Ramos. And i believe this makes much more senses. Maicon is the type of sideback who needs someone like holding midfielder to cover up, so it's so unwise to put him as a right back while wasting one of the best defneder in the world to play as a winger. Have u ever seen Maldini or Christian Chivu played as wingers?? that's totally out of reason. Furthermore, some pple maybe impressed by sergio ramos's dribbling skills and pace. the reason is beacuse we relied him to do a lot of attacking thing while Robben was injured. But in terms of stability and consistency(offensively), maicon is much more mature.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
ramos'attacking skills are fantastic as a sideback but absolutely not in a winger standpoint. maicon is different, his position in inter is more like a RWB. Jose Mouriho gave him a lot of freedom to attack cuz they have Zanetti to cover up. Cambiasso or P.Viera still can hold the midfied. But if we do the same thing, lass must be overwhelmed.
I think Cannavaro is getting up in age. There is no doubt that he was great for us, we have to face it that he is old. We need to find a replacement this summer, Garay is welcome but I would like to have someone else in the center. As for Van der Vaart, considering that he scored in the WC qualifier against Macedonia I don't want him to leave. He is a good player but keeping in mind that we are more than likely going to have a new Coach and a new President with their own shopping list of players, Van der Vaart will probably leave. He is very versatile and such a good playmaker but unfortunately Ramos likes to play with two defensive midfielders and that leaves a center forward/ attacking midfielder out. Also Huntelaar scored as well so he is still on target following this international break.
don't compare Maldini to Ramos...!!
one is a pure Cb while Ramos is exactly what you describe Maicon-RWB...
maldini or Chivu are not that skillful like Ramos and that's why Spain used him in the attack, just like Inter is doing with Maicon...
and thats why i think that he could do well in the midfield, or winger position...
almost half of the game he is in a winger position...
but i am saying that because we have more options with Ramos if we don't bring a quality winger which is something that we miss( even if we have Marcelo)...
Reply to Rireal:
how long have u been watching football?? who said Maldini is a pure CB?? he was named as the best LB in the world when he was young. in his peak period, he was more like a LWB in ac milan and his skill level was exceptional too, but he was never pushed at that unfamiliar position. I don't think any coach out there would risk to put Ramos to play as winger. it sounds more nonsense when u said putting maicon as a right back while Ramos as a right winger. anyway, let's get to the point straightup, if we can't buy a gd winger for next season, we would never got pass the 16 round in CL. Neither Ramos nor Maicon could be constantly relied on the winger position, so is marcelo. They are sidebacks who have nice attacking skills but using them as wingers can just be temporary, not long term.
Reply to MadridistAli:
why forcing maicon to play a position he isn't familiar with?? why don't we just get Chiellini or Lahm instead?? Putting Marcelo as a winger can just be temporary. i dare say we will never reach the top level in Europe if we don't bring in more world class wingers. with the 4-4-2 formation.
Well there is extermely big news that we have made an offer to Maicon to play for us next season I dont know how true this is but if he does come Sergio Ramos will move back to center back along with Pepe and we have Garay as a back up so I think if that does happen we can let Cannavaro go, and VDV has basically lost his place and he will leave also because we will most likely buy a center midflider I want KAKA!!!
Hey folks, I think letting Cannavaro go is essential. No doubt he was once great, but now he's a shadow of his former self and he can no longer play to the level that REAL MADRID require.
Rafael Van Der Vaart is a tricky one. I think he hasn't been given a proper chance to shine. He has had some good and bad performances. It takes time to settle. We should keep him for another season and give him a proper chance to shine.
We do need to get rid of, i'd say, three central midfielders. Javi Garcia is one. Guti is another. And lastly Mahamadou Diarra should be sold. I know a lot of you like him, but with the exception of the first couple of months of his first season and the end of last season, he has been mediocre. Yes, he is a good ball winner and yes, he has physical pressence. However his passing is absolutley woeful and often puts the team in the trouble. Lassana Diarra has already proved himself better in that position and we do have De La Red and Gago in reserve.
We should also sell Drenthe, Heinze, Salgado and Saviola in the summer.
Along with Garay next season, A high quality left-back, another centre-half and Right-sided midfielder is what we need to compete on all fronts again.
HALA MADRID!!!
I have just one name for you guys, EDIN DZEKO. You should see him, he is an attacker, a goal machine. He has everything! Trust me...
BREAKING NEWS: Marcelo will be out for the Malaga clash after he pickked up and injury with Brazil. He joins Gabriel Heinze on the list of casualties as Heinze recieved 5 yellow cards.
Who do you people should replace him on the left? I personally want Drenthe to lay but another option is playing Sneijder on the left and VDV in the center. I've drifted away from the idea of two holding midfielders..at least not against smaller teams like Malaga. Hala Madrid!
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Miguel Torres will be the best replacement and let's forget abot drenthe, an useless piece of shit. Who's gonna cover up if an attackin' player like drenthe goes up while we only have one holding midfielder??
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
I never said we should play Drenthe as a left-back, i'm talking about playing him in place of Marcelo on the left-wing. I disagree with him being useless, he's got good potential but the thing is he doesn't play well when he's given a chance. I still think he can do well if he can start playing well again. Hala Madrid!
Reply to madridtrini4:
I also think that Benzema is one hell of a player. Huntelaar is a good box player, but Benzema is effective all over the pitch. He's nearly impossible to mark. If he can't shoot he is excellent at creating scoring chances for others. I'd certainly like to see him at Real Madrid.
As for Marcelo, I wouldn'tplay him at left back anyway. He was a wreck in that position. He's found his niche in left midfield. If Heinze can't play, then Torres will have to fill in - or Metzhelder. I would hate to see Van Der Vaart used in left midfield, because it's not his position and we all know it. What about Bueno?
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Drenthe - A useless piece of shit?!?
You're out of order there, mate.
OFFICIAL: Real Madrid have denied reports that they have made a bid for Maicon as intermin President Vicente Bolouda and his directors have no intentions to sign any players.
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
Actually those are good news and bad news,the good news is that VDV can play instead of Marcelo so he can prove himself,the bad news of course Marcelo's injury i hope he recovers soon,about Heinze i think Miguel Torres will do the job.
Hala Madrid
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
come onn man, he's really good, don;t say that
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
I prefer Palanca to him, robben comes back to the left. i think the first half season pretty much gave us the answer. there were enormous chances that Schuster 'd given him but the result proves everything- Drenthe is not yet in real madrid's level. Palanca, Bueno, and Parejo definitely deserves more chances.
Reply to TheAngelOfMadrid:
wut do u mean out of order?? i don't think i would be the only one who thinks this way. he is totally overated. We gave him a lot of chances but he just disappointed us. he should be sold at the end of this season. Im tired of seeing some crappy players screwing around while some younstas like Bueno, Palanca, and Parejo are constantly benched. Drenthe is not in Real madrid's level yet. He never know how to cross the ball in the right time. 95% of his crosses were blocked. all he knows is how to dribble around like dancers.
Reply to madridtrini4:
sorry man, I really don't see where drenthe's "good" is. If u think drenthe is "good", i think im kinda lost about the definition of "good".
Reply to madridtrini4:
Drenthe sucks!
lets put Faubert or Bueno
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
i realized he has been a flop this season, but he was our best player in november and december.. he really can play well, his performances on the euro stage and at the olympics were also very good.. so apparently he can't cut it in spain,he should go somewhere else.. but just please don't say he's a useless piece of sh*t, because he isn't, thats a bit extreme.. he is young, and he could learn to cross a ball.. comments like these can really hurt a player, and he probably has problems with anxiety when he is playing 4 madrid, he has to conquer that if he is to succeed in being a professional though..hopefully he doesn't see that comment as it might worsen his confidence.. and as we all know, real madrid cf visits this blog all the time
lol.. i think he should leave, it will be best for both parties..
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
i agree with you on playing palanca, bueno,parejo.. they can be great
also give szalai a shot.. and i don't mean putting them in at the 89 min.. give them from at the 70-80min into the game..
We do have a few injury worries for the match vs malaga, Heinze will be suspended, and Marcelo will be out due to injury, and Robben has a knock..
Reply to Madridista4:
LINK
Also,I hope to see M.Torres finally get a few minutes this week....I'm 110% sure he's the best youth prospect Real Madrid have grown in recent years but I find him to be really under-rated
As for Drenthe...he HAS shown moments of brilliance...even with Real Madrid....and surprisingly in the big games too!!!Did any of you guys watch the Juventus game?Where he was the best player we had and beat TWO defenders with ONE move?I think he's excellent he just needs to learn to cross,control and pass the ball better...which is not impossible for a 20year old....we have to be patient....cause if he goes...mark my words it would be a VERY BIG mistake.
The first part of the comment didn't seem to come out Adam
I think that if that's true....it would be one of the biggest bargains in recent years...I think Real Madrid should check this out and if it's true they should sign Silva as soon as possible!
Well anyway....for those who don't speak Italian...it basically states Liverpool asked Valecia how much Silva would cost...and Valencia replied by saying 20m.
Reply to madridtrini4:
i apologize if i hurt any rm fans' feelings regarding to the drenthe discuss. I might be a bit too over but wut was tryna do is to express my fraustration and disppointment about certain players. I do agree Drenthe is young and no one can bury his potient to improve in the future. But honestly, he is way too immature now and he still has a long long way to go to reach the top level. I still appreciate his effort though. And i admit that i shouldn't shift my anger against the real madrid's administration to some innocent players. If we'd got enough quality players in our bench, we wouldn't have to rely a younsta like drenthe to step up in the first half of this season(in which period we lost so many crucial points). But as a fan, we gotta know how to determine what "good" and "bad" are. NOt just to blindly worship our players and to critize others who don't think the same way. I'm the only real madrid fan in my team and the pple around me. That makes me know how to look at our team from other stand points.
Reply to Daniel:
What comment, Daniel?
Reply to Adambader:
Don't worry about it....I'm just telling you this to let you know
But my post (the 49th) had three paragraphs (besides the link) and the first one didn't appear...I don't know why
As for the Malaga game...I'd predict this formation:
----------Casillas
Ramos--cannavaro---Pepe---M.Torres
--------Diarra
----------------Sneijder
VDV----------------------Robben/Marcelo
------Raul-----Huntelaar
Robben and Marcelo depending on whose fit and whose not...if none are....Sneijder will play instead of them and gago or guti in the middle
As for Higuain I don't think he'll start this game...I predict a 2-1 win
The lineup has been announced and Heinze,Robben, and Marcelo are all out for this match.. Porteros: Casillas y Dudek.
Defensas: Salgado, Pepe, Ramos, Metzelder, Cannavaro y Torres.
Centrocampistas: Lass, Gago, Sneijder, Guti, Drenthe, Parejo, Van der Vaart y Javi García.
Delanteros: Huntelaar, Raúl, Higuaín y Saviola.
I would line up this team .. Iker, Ramos,Pepe,Cannavaro,Torres,Lass,Gago,Sneijder,Higuain,Raul,Huntelaar.. and off the bench we can put in VDV, Guti, and Saviola to make a difference if we need them
Reply to Madridista4:
Gago will 90% NOT start according to Juande due to him not training enough. I think this is the perfect chance for the likes of VDV, Sneijder, parejo and Drenthe to prove what they're worth. I think the line-up's going to be like this; Casillas, Ramos, Pepe, Cannavaro, Torres, Higuain, Lass, VDV, Sneijder, Raul, Huntelaar. I think it's a pretty good line-up and the fact that Higuain has got so much time to regain fitness and Huntelaar is on a rampage, we should ease through the game. The creative surge of VDV and Sneijder will help us too. Lets hope Torres can do well enough to make the left-back spot his. Hala Madrid!
wut a broken squad we have against Malaga.....!! Gago is out that means Lass once again has to get everything on his shoulders. And both wings are broken.....It's gonna be a big challenge for Juande and hopefully he still can adjust it well(i dunno how though). the only good thing for me is that VDV might be able to get a chance to start. i kinda worry about the defense since we must reply on S.Ramos on the right flank....hopefully otehrs would be able to cover up while only Lass is considered to be the holding midfielder in this game. The key to win is Higuain.
Reply to Daniel:
i really appreciate your effort to find the "moments of brilliance" of Drenthe cuz I know that must be extremely difficult. I know the word i used to describe him is kinda over and abusing. But it's much more easier for us to point out how many turnovers he made and how many chances he had wasted in the games he played, every player can have the potient to grow and to improve, esp for a 20 yr old player. But if u need to reform, we can't afford to be patient "eternally", and if he would ruin his career if he stays with real cuz he is constantly bencned(and he deserves to be according to his level). That's bad for both parties. He should be sold or laon to earn himself a opportunity to prove himself.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
And I think the "VERy BIG MISTAKe" wouldn't be recognized within 5-7 years if we keep him with us.
Reply to Daniel:
Why would you play Raul? Why?
If you've got cancer, you'd stop smoking right?
Reply to Daniel:
AGREED!!!
Reply to Caracoleo:
well said
Reply to Caracoleo:
raul is a player who scores on chances that he gets.he might be slow but his positioning and technique is pure class and he knows how to pull the team through in tough times.furthermore,he is one of our top scorers this season !so, he's not the cancer, but the HEART of the team.
Why do you think we all love him so much?
There was and will always be one Raul. Hala Raul! Hala Madrid!
Here is the predicted line-up from AS and RealMadrid.com; Casillas, Ramos, Pepe, Cannavaro, Torres, Higuain, Sneijder, Guti, VDV, Raul, Huntelaar.
This is clearly a very attacking line-up which doesn't include Lass covering us up when we need him. It could be a tricky match if he doesn't play but on the other hand, if the devastating creativity of VDV, Sneijder and Guti is at a high then God save Malaga. Higuain should do a good job on the right where he has played before and there's no disputing whether Huntelaar should play or not. Raul is the captain and well..he's still got some horsepower in him. Hala Madrid!
Reply to Caracoleo:
PLEASE...I BEG YOU....LEARN TO READ!!!
It is NOT my favorite line-up but my predicted line-up...I don't know what your level of english is...but to me...it makes a difference
It is common sense that since Raul is fresh since he had no international games...he will start the match...you don't need to be a genius to realise that.
And just a small tip...joking about cancer is not funny...go get a crash course about how to joke
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
No no...I agree that the present situation isn't good...I agree he should be loaned out...but I don't think he should be sold for the simple reason he has potential...and we'll lose him just as we lost Mata,Eto'o,Negredo and countless others...the latter two have been goal-scoring machines this season.
Reply to Daniel:
i agree wut u said we can just loan him out. But u know wut pisses me off the most, whenever i look at how brilliant Mata is playing in Valencia this season, i feel so pissed. I really wanna ask Mijatovic why he would spend money on signing some "potential" players like Drenthe who is not yet in real madrid level while forgoing some potential players from our youth system. Mata was in a very gd form when he was in Castilla. why spend money to sign some young player from outside of the country and neglecting wut we could already have from the Castilla. the amount that Pedja spent on those players are enormous too. i dun get it. we should spend our money "only for world class players" who's already in the top level but not those we still have to "patiently waiting" for a long time while we'd already spend money on them. THat is not worth it.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
you're 100% right....but you know what?at the end of the season we can (for example) buy Negredo for a couple of millions...it shouldn't be much...but nobody mentions him...everyone wants Benzema...so it's not all Miatovich's faul...it's even the supporters' fault
(I know I'm insisiting on Negredo but I'm SURE he is a future player for the spanish national team..last season he scored around 12 goals and this year he already has 16)
Reply to Danniel:
pple who are shouting for signing new strikers like Benzema or Tevez are very unwise in this time. As most of us know that all we need is at least one talent winger. all of the strikers(except for poor saviola who lacks of chacnes) taht we have are very productive. We gotta understand the fact that no striker can score goals if they lack of support. I personally suggest to sign Ribery and Silva rahter than Kaka and C.Ron. But as we know, everything is uncertain b4 the election.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
and i totally agree with ur Negredo suggestion. He deserves to come back and i dun understand why we would just sell him to almeria instead of laonin' him out.
Reply to Anti-Mijatovic:
Negredo can be bought back though for a very small sum of money at the end of the season...it says in his contract....and that's why he can't play against Real Madrid yet...I agree with the players you mentioned we should sign....and I personally would also include Gourcuff...he's been excellent this season...and beleive me...he has produced some Zidne-like magic with Bordauex.Also, He would probably cost very very little compared to the names being mentioned
Reply to Danniel:
Exactly, Yoann reminds me of Zizou with his Magical footworks and pace. besides, his set pieces are way better compared wiith the former two i'd mentioned. but i dun think Milan will let him go with a small amount, esp for a giant club like real madrid. I would still suggest this french youngster+one talent winger(a pure winger) our squad would be tremendously strengthened.