We're here at the Etoile du Sahel vs Urawa Reds 3rd/4th place playoff match, and the Urawa fans, although present in smaller numbers, are in good voice. It's 2-2 in an exciting game right now, but what we're all curious about is what the support will be like for the final.

As it is, there's large sections of empty seats for this game, because the Boca vs Milan final is the real attraction.

In the previous Urawa match, we asked the question about whether the "neutral" Japanese fans would support Urawa or go for the glamour of Milan, and as it turned out they were mostly there for the spectacle of the Italians. About 70% of the stadium were AC Milan "fans"/ neutrals, but not having any vested interests, they lacked the passion of the Urawa fans and made little or no noise (other than when Seedorf scored, and when somebody did a trick).

Tonight's equation is much more complicated, particularly because of two factors:
1. Boca have quite a following here for two reasons. Firstly, popular Japan striker Naohiro Takahara spent sometime there in the early noughties, and Boca have always been well regarded for that. Secondly, Boca are a team with a very successful Copa Libertadores history, and so they've made several visits to Tokyo already for the Club World Cup's predecessor, the Intercontintenal Cup, which they won in 2000 and 2003.

2. There is a combined ticket for both matches. So you have the small pocket of Etoile du Sahel fans, the few thousand well organised Urawa fans, the surprisingly sizeable contingent of travelling Bocense, the few Italians that could be bothered to make the trip/holiday, and of course the sea of unsure, easily impressed "neutral" Japanese fans that must still be furiously pondering whether to support Milan or Boca.

We know that Boca are equally as, if not more popular than Milan, so the neutrals here will be split on that (as opposed to last year, when the relatively unknown, starless Internacional played Barcelona and their midfield marketing maestro Ronaldinho).

We know that there aren't enough Etoile fans to make a difference to the overall support.

The Boca fans are a noisy, dancing bunch, who are concentrated into one section of the ground, right next to a bank of Urawa fans. They will be creating a lot of energy, but the eventual decision on what the atmosphere is like will come down to the Urawa fans, who could easily drown out the rest of the stadium.

They will be in good spirits (Urawa just beat Etoile on penalties), but it's unlikely that they'll keep singing Urawa songs. So the question is, will they just let the passion fade away and join the ranks of casual fans in polite applause and general silence? Or will they pick a side and really make this final feel like a football match of some worth?

It's difficult to predict. They seemed to be irritated during this match by the Boca fans, who just kept singing their Boca songs throughout the game, so they might go against Boca. But then again, football fans also just love to be football fans, and they just join the Bocense in their revelry.

Milan were also the ones who beat Urawa in that tight encounter, so they might just decide that's a good enough reason to ally with Boca. But as MikeTuckerman pointed out to me, they might even prefer to support a Milan victory, because they could then say "We lost to the eventual Champions".

Lots of different theories there, but that's football fan psychology for you.

Either way, we can't wait to find out what it's like for the second match, and any fan with a bit of sense will try and be as lively as possible outside, because it's f**king freezing here.

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Washington has a calm, polite and nice way to talk, which might be the result of a battle that only some would be strong enough to win. In 2003 a heart problem forced him to end up earlier his european career playing for Fenerbahce. Back to Brazil, Atletico Paranaense believed in his capacity to recover and, "The Brave Heart" gave back the best way he could: 34 goals in the 2004 Brazilian Championship - an all-time record -  which helped his team to finish as runners-up. Now Washignton is an idol in Japan playing for Urawa Reds but he may soon be back to Brazil to bring joy to new fans.

Washington, did you already sign a contract with Fluminense?  Hahaha… Not yet. We are... They offered me a very good contract and we're talking. Of course I need to wait till the end of the Club World Cup to really sit and talk to them so we can, maybe, sign.

So that means you're totally foccused in winning this next game to give Urawa this 3rd place which can actually be considered almost a title of the 3rd best team on the planet? For sure. This sunday's game is a very important one to decide the 3rd place. We all gotta be very foccused. It would be an excellent way to finish the year. Of course we knew Milan were the favorites and they deserved the result but I believe we played well and left the pitch with our heads up which will boost our confidence to get fight for the 3rd position.

Both Milan and Boca had a very hard time beating teams that could be considered smaller in terms of world football. Why do you think that happened? Are the big teams lowering their level or the smaller ones are showing more efficiency?   Certainly football is not like in the past when a big team would sweep the smaller one all the time. It's not like that anymore. There are good teams outside Europe, Brazil... right? There are good teams with a strong roster and things are leveling up and we showed it out there. There also a team from Africa, our team from Asia and both represented their continents very well. I'm sure it will a great 3rd and 4th place decision on Sunday. 

Washington, now tell a little bit about you. I myself always saw you as a role model. You went through a very serious problem, and if I'm not wrong it was Atletico Paranaense the team who believed in you and helped you overcome that hard moment. Now you're, you're successful an idol in Japan, ALMOST going back to Brazil. How do you see your career, all this adventure that has been your profesional life? See, all of this that is happening to me now I always see as a present from God. After, as you said, the struggle I had to face to go back to the pitch I only had good things happening to me. So I think this a living proof that we should never give up on our life no matter how big the problem seems to be. One should fight and when he overcomes the plroblem he will be even stronger to achieve the siccess. So thank God after the problems all I had was joy, and happiness and wonderful moments and I'm sure it will be like this till the end of my career. 

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O jeito tranquilo, educado e simpático de Washington talvez seja consequencia de uma batalha que nem todos teriam forças para vencer. Em 2003 um problema cardíaco fez com que sua carreira na Europa jogando pelo Fenerbahce terminasse mais cedo. De volta ao Brasil, foi a equipe do Atlético Paranaense que acreditou no alteta e, o “Coracão Valente” retribiu da melhor maneira possível: foram 34 gols no Campeonato Brasileiro de 2004 – recorde do torneio - que ajudaram a garantir o vice-campeonato à equipe. Hoje Washington  é ídolo no Japão jogando pelo Urawa mas em breve pode voltar ao Brasil para dar alegria à uma outra grande torcida.

Washington, você já assinou com o Fluminense né? Hahaha… Ainda não. Nós estamos... Me fizeram um proposta muito boa, estamos negociando. É claro que tem que se esperar o Mundial (terminar) realmente para conversar com eles os detalhes para que haja, quem sabe, o acerto.

Então quer dizer que você ainda está concentrado em ganhar esse próximo jogo para dar esse terceiro ... é quase um título de terceira melhor equipe do planeta para o Urawa? Com certeza. É um jogo importantíssimo no domingo agora disputando a terceira colocação. Então tem que estar bastante concentrado. Tem que fechar o ano bem. É claro que sabíamos que o Milan era o grande favorito e fez por merecer essa vitória mas mas jogamos até de certo modo até muito bem e saímos de cabeça erguida mas nos dá confiança para buscar essa terceira colocação.

Tanto o Milan quanto o Boca tiveram muitas dificuldades para vencer equipes consideradas menores no futebol mundial. A que você credita isso? São essas equipes grandes que estão caindo o nível ou as euipes menores que estão realmente nivelando o futebol do mundo? Com certeza o futebol já não é mais aquele em que a grande equipe vai ganhar de goleada sempre. Não é mais assim. Tem boas equipes fora do eixo ali Europa ou Brasil né? Tem grandes equipes sim, formando fortes equipes e as coisas estão se nivelando também bem e isso demonstramos aí. Tem um time da África, o nosso time aqui da Ásia também acho que representaram muito bem e tenho certeza que vai ser uma grande partida também a disputa de 3º e 4º .

Washington, fala para mim um pouquinho porque eu sempre me espelhei muito na sua luta, porque você passou por um problema muito sério, né, e se não me engano, foi o Atlético Paranaense que te deu muita força e hoje você está aqui com essa carreira de sucesso sendo ídolo aqui no Japão, QUASE voltando para o Brasil, não vou colocar o carro à frente dos bois, como dizem lá em Minas Gerais, mas tá quase voltando. Como é que você resume essa sua carreira, toda a sua aventura da sua vida profissional? Olha, isso aí acho que tudo que está acontecendo comigo agora acho que é um presente que eu recebo de Deus sempre né? Depois da, como você mesmo disse, da luta que eu tive para voltar a jogar. De lá para cá só tive coisas boas e acontecido coisas boas para nós. Então isso  é um exemplo de que a gente nunca pode desistir na nossa vida por qualquer problema e quando você superar esse problema você vai ficar mais forte para ter sucesso. Então graças a Deus depois dos problemas eu só tive alegrias, tive só felicidades de viver momentos maravilhosos e tenho certeza de que vai ser assim até o fim da minha carreira.

Although the expected result materialised in this game, the manner of it was far from predictable. It was not a walkover for Milan. Urawa moved and passed sharply, defended tenaciously, and threatened repeatedly in a game that was eventually decided by the individual talents of Kaka and Seedorf.

In the 68th minute, the Urawa defence were sleeping as Pirlo took a quick free-kick from the centre circle, releasing Kaka down the left. The Brazilian, who had to work hard all night to be effective, was given an easy ride and acres of space by the defender and he powered towards the touchline before pulling a low cross back across the box.

Seedorf, having been thwarted repeatedly by the Urawa keeper Tsuzuki, finally put one it with a firm sidefoot and that more or less ended the game.

Urawa had threatened repeatedly throughout the game, with incisive, creative passing, and lots of movement off the ball. Unfortunately their 32-year old Brazilian striker Washington looked more like he was 45 years old, and was especially ineffective when up against Nesta & co. It didn't help that due to a combination of nervousness and excitment, several Urawa players opted to shoot from impossible angles and ridiculous distances for large parts of the game, when a little bit of composure and vision would have helped.

Still, Urawa were worth a goal. Yamada worked a sharp shooting chance when he came on, Nene wasted a header, Washington opted to try and curl a fancy shot with a clear sight of goal when power would have sufficed, and Nagai and Suzuki both fluffed good chances.

Once they conceded the goal however, Milan simply took control and killed off the game. Whilst Urawa managed to compete well with the Italian side on a technical level, they were always struggling on the physical side of things. At the back, they were good value. Nene is a tall athlete, Tsuboi is powerful, and led by the exuberant Tulio they were able to deal with the power and pace of the Milan attacks. However, the midfield was another story. Everytime Milan had the ball, Urawa had 2 or 3 players trying to win the ball back, because they couldn't cope with the physiques of the Milan players. At 0-0 there was no urgent need to win the ball in midfield, so they held their own with positioning and movement. However after going a goal down, Milan started to pass the ball around their midfield and defence, and Urawa had no answer. Pirlo , Ambrosini, Seedorf, Oddo and Jankulovski were all too strong and athletic for Urawa to win the ball back, and Ambrosini in particular seemed to outmuscle every Urawa player on the pitch.

Ultimately, it was the same old story, one of the age old failings of Japanese football, and sadly not something that can be easily rectified. The Japanese have been criticised over the years of not being physical and competitive enough. It seems that over the past 6 or 7 years, they have really worked on this aspect of the game, and players like Inamoto, Toda, Suzuki, Tusboi, and Tulio have a fantastic competitive streak. However, in terms of physique, there is not much that one can do when faced by Europeans or South Americans who are a good deal taller and bulkier than the Japanese. Japanese footballers on average are incredibly mobile, but this isn't too helpful in ball-winning situations, and when chasing a game. 

Considering the fact that the stadium in Toyota City was half-empty on Monday night, the noise levels generated by the two pockets of Urawa fans were fantastic. Rehearsed, coordinated, effervescent and loud, it was a non-stop display of support for their team.

That night in Toyota was an unfortunate one for Urawa fans, because the majority come from Tokyo and Yokohama, and it was an impossible commute for many given that the game was on a weeknight, and that Toyota is so far away. They were also playing Sepahan, which hardly made for an attractive trip to the middle of nowhere.

Tonight however is a different prospect. The grander, larger Nissan stadium in Yokohama is easily accessible from Tokyo and Saitama (where Urawa are from). The best part is that Urawa, being a sort of Manchester United of Japan (their fans aren't from where the team are), have their largest fanbase in Yokohama, so all things considered, we should be witnessing an absolutely packed stadium and roaring support for Urawa, right?

Well, no. It's not that simple.

The bone in the kebab in this case, is the Japanese people's love of all things glamorous, famous and superstarry. I witnessed it first-hand last year when Barcelona played here, and the stadium was a sea of blaugrana shirts, with a rumbling whisper of adoration/excitement for Ronaldinho that exploded into "Oohs" and "Aahs" every time he did anything - whether it was a trick, a shot, a tackle or even kicking someone, miscontrolling the ball, or falling flat on his arse. The teams didn't matter, the football didn't matter, only the stardom did.

This year, there's no Ronaldinho, but there's Kaka. There's no Deco, but there's Seedorf. There's Maldini, there's Nesta, there's Pirlo... the names just go on and on. If you're talking about fame, glamour and stardom, AC Milan have all of those in abundance.

And here lies the problem. Urawa being a very populist team, means that a lot of the fans that would be neutrals or occassionals tend to support them. However against Milan all of those neutrals will quite likely have their allegiances tested. Milan have also been staying in Yokohama for the past week, and the locals have regularly been watching them train and play, and they've also played in Yokohama and Tokyo several times before in the previous Intercontinental Cup, so they already have a fairly large following in the local area.

On a technical level, there is only a very slight chance that Urawa will be able to get a result against Milan. There is also the worry with Japanese teams and players, that they will sink into the over-respectful, gracious mode that they tend to go into when faced with superior, more exalted opposition. Holger Osieck has worked hard to give Urawa a really tenacious edge to their game, it would be a pity to see Keita Suzuki not trying to chop down Kaka, or being apologetic about doing so. The players will all be nervous, and they will need the fans to help them retain their edge.

So it is absolutely essential that Urawa go into this game with a 40-50,000 strong bunch of supporters, because otherwise the silence and casual support for Milan is going to create a very, very strange atmosphere for them, one in which they might just lose their way, and which would be very disappointing for the fans watching around the world, who would miss out on a chance to see just how great the REAL Japanese football fans are.

Os japoneses ainda comente erros bobos, alguns até difícies de entender como quando eles perdem gols dentro da pequena área, de frente com o goleiro com a bola rolando na frente do japa. Mas de uma forma geral os erros que mais frequentes surgem de tentativas de uma pedalada, ou de um passe de três dedos, ou de uma tentativa de um drible mais elaborado. É... parece que eles realmente aprenderam a jogar. 

Em 1993 quando a J-League foi lançada, a idéia de se ter uma equipe do Japão disputando qualquer torneo em nível mundia parecia algo muito absurdo mas algumas pessoas muito importantes acreditaram nisso. Zico foi uma dessas pessoas. O galinho de Quintino, o maestro do grande Flamengo dos anos 80 e a maior estrela da maior seleção que não ganhou a Copa do Mundo - o Brasil de 82 - chegou no Japão para ser o que o Pelé foi para o NY Cosmos no fim da década de 70. A única diferença é que a sociedade conservadora, tradicionalista e paternalista do Japão abriu as portas para essa revolução. 

Ná época, os esportes mais populares do Japão eram o baseball e o sumô. O Futebol já era praticado mas de uma maneira extremanente amadora. A idéia de se popularizar o esporte foi muito bem aceita e a presença de estrangeiros como Zico, que trouxe com ele uma grande leva de brasileiros, era exatamente o que a Federação Japonesa de Futebol queria para transformar o esporte aqui.

Hoje pode se dizer que os jogadores japoneses aprenderam muito com esse "Programa de Intercâmbio em Domicílio" e apesar de praticamente todas as equipes ainda contarem com a presença de pelo menos um brasileiro no elenco, já pode-se notar o surgimento de alguns talentos locais.

E a torcida… Aaah, a torcida...

 

A torcida japonesa AMA seus times. Eles vestem camisas, apoiam os jogadores, e cantam o jogo inteiro SEM PARAR. Honestamente eu fiquei muito feliz com o que vi aqui em plena segunda feira à noite. Não vejo a hora de ver o show que a torcida do Urawa Reds vai fazer no jogo contra o Milan.  

Portanto, se hoje em dia não dá mais pra dizer que o Japão é um time bobo que qualquer um pode vencer como é que a vamos chamar aquele garoto que de tão ruim só serve pra ser goleiro (e olhe lá)... Deixe-me pensar... aaaahhh... que tal Inglês?

“Ô moleque, você é tão ruim que até parece jogador da Inlgaterra..."

Eu sou Mano Gil, escrevendo diretamente do Estádio de Toyota, com exclusividade para o Ole Ole.

Sayonara!!!

I remember a time when we would pick on that kid who was not a very good player by saying that he played like Japanese. Well that certainly is a thing of the past.

They still make mistakes that are almost impossible to understand like when … missed a certain goal from inside the box, face to face with the goalie but in general when they make a mistake is by trying an step-over, a curvy pass or a fancy move. They have learned.

In 1993 when the J-League was launched the idea of having a Japanese team playing in a World Level championship seemed like a far, far, far, away dream but some very important people believed in it. Zico was one of them. The maestro of the great Flamengo from the 80’s and the main component of the best team who didn’t win a World Cup – Brazil of 1982 – arrived in Japan to be what Pele was for the NY Cosmos in the the late 70’s. The only difference is that the conservative, traditionalist, paternalist Japanese culture were open for this revolution.    

The most popular sports in Japan were, at the time, baseball and sumo. Football existed but in a very amateur way. But the idea of popularizing football was very well accepted and the presence of foreign players like Zico, who attracted a bunch of other Brazilians with him was exactly what the Japanese Football Federation needed to transform the sport here.

Today Japanese players learned a lot from this “in-house exchange program” and even though almost every team has at least one Brazilian on their squad, one can see the arising of some good domestic talents.

And the fans… Oh, the fans…

 

Japanese football fans LOVE their teams. They wear the colors, they support the players, they chant ALL THE TIME! I’m honestly extremely pleased with what I saw here on a Monday night. I just can’t wait to see what show the Reds fans are going to put up against Milan.

So if Japan doesn’t have the easy to beat football how should we label that kid who is so bad that he ends up as the goalkeeper. Let me think… hmmm… what about English?

“Hey kid, you’re so bad that it seems you’re from England…”

I’m Mano Gil, writing from the Toyota Stadium, exclusively for Ole Ole.

Sayonara!!!

First off, congratulations to our two winners - manogil and MikeTuckerman. It was a hard-fought contest, and a very difficult one to decide, but these two came out on top at the end.

I'd also like to offer congratulations to the others on the shortlist - carlaprat, Fedro, genesio, Haroldotuna, lempira, Lizzy, LucasDL and Lucastro. You all did a fantastic job, and we hope you will continue to participate in our future contests.

It's amazing to have this community of such talented people from so many different countries - football, it seems, really does bring the world together!

We at OleOle are extremely proud of what you guys came up with, and I'd once again like to thank all the contestants for their contribution . Please stay tuned to this blog for all the coverage we bring back from the 2007 FIFA Club World Cup.

The match schedule is as follows:

07.12.07 - Sepahan (Iran) v Waitakere United (New Zealand) - Playoff

09.12.07 - Étoile du Sahel (Tunisia) v Pachuca (Mexico) - Quarterfinal 1
10.12.07 - Sepahan/Waitakere v Urawa Red Diamonds (Japan) - Quarterfinal 2

12.12.07 - Winner of QF1 v Boca Juniors (Argentina) - Semifinal 1
13.12.07 - Winner of QF2 v AC Milan (Italy) - Semifinal 2

16.12.07 - Loser of SF1 v Loser of SF2 - Third Place Match
16.12.07 - Winner of SF1 v Winner of SF2 - Final